00:01:44 Rick Schmitt (Rexburg Detective) 00:22:42 continue after break 00:45:21 Rick Schmitt cross examination 00:51:50 Steve Daniels (FBI Special Agent)
This last guy testifying in this audio of all the steps they went through and what all they were discovering is very good, clear and concise in his telling of it..he’s very easy to follow along.
What a great perspective! He was annoying me going back to his records for every question. I was thinking “Did he not prepare for trial?” But, you gave me a more positive outlook. So, thank you! 🙏🏾❤️
The lack of cameras was a good decision IMO. The court doesn't appear or sound like the chaotic mishmash of other highly televised trials. As much as I would like to see the optics for this particular subject, overall it lends to a more deliberate and less confusing scenario for the jury,
She says in the jail call with her sister when adked about dancing with chad and lori said that was months later. So basically she is saying she knew they were dead before they were discovered . Wonder why state did not ask the sister about that statement
I agree, How and WTF is going on in AZ to allow this to happen. The whole country should rise up and call them out. The shenanigans involved in not answering Charles attempts to cut this whole mess at the pass implicates the AZ PD . I pray they are put on the line AND PUNISHED. The world is watching.
I lived in AZ for many years and I can tell you that because Alex was white, fairly calm and rational and in a nice neighborhood the police were predisposed to believe his story. Had he been a woman, a person of color or a person in a run-down or ghetto environment he would have been arrested on suspicion of homicide. Money and the appearance of social status speak volumes in that area. The police dropped the ball horribly in this case. The true heroes are the family of Charles Vallow, who immediately started raising questions and concerns about the death of their family member, and later the disappearance of the children. They knew right away that the death of Charles was no mere altercation. The police should have known it based on what Charles had been trying to alert them to, but they dropped the ball. No nice way to say it.
@Shelby Hunkler true, but people if color and people in poor communities commit way more crimes on a daily basis. So it makes perfect sense that police would be more suspicious in those areas as opposed to a neighborhood with very low crime
OMG listening to the description of how Tylee's remains were uncovered and how she was in pieces, was utterly heartbreaking. It must have been very hard, for the family to hear all the gruesome details. I have been in tears hearing it all. My God.The obliteration of Tylee and JJ's lives accounted for nothing in Lori's eyes. I find it very difficult to comprehend how a mother could allow this to happen, but then again, she is no mother. God won't forgive you Lori.
He would forgive her if she encountered true repentance for her actions. However, narcissistic markers usually indicate that the person NEVER thinks they're at fault, no matter the facts....
She had convinced herself that Charles, Tylee , JJ and Tammy were not inhabiting those bodies. In doing so she was ridding the earth of evil so she and Chad could usher in their version of “ the last days”. Very psychotic stuff
Lori actually believes she has done the right thing by her children. Her beliefs, combined with Chads, led Lori to believe she was sending her kids to the "other side of the veil" and saving them from the "end times"........thats why she is so calm about EVERYTHING.....
I’m gonna be disappointed if the defenses case is going to rely on people saying she was a good mom, until she met Chad. The word UNTIL will still imply she is guilty. Can’t wait to see what else they have.
He's pompous and completely arrogant too! You can hear it in his voice. Yes he has a job to do, but that doesn't entail berating and belittling witnesses or the judge!!
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I imagine she's escaping to the inner false reality she's lived in all along. She probably enters one of Chad's "portals" in order to psychologically disassociate from the horrific reality she's created.
I really wonder how she reconciles these being bodies that she raised. In Tylee's case, the baby she gave birth to. I know they've convinced themselves that it wasn't Tylee and JJ, but at the very least they seem to understand that these are their bodies.
Lori in her mind doesn't see it as killing her children, she sees it as killing the zombies who took over their bodies. The only way to get rid of the zombies was to destroy the children's bodies. She believes that their spirits left their bodies long before they where murdered
This made me want to vomit. If this happened to anyone I knew, I’d pass out. I have no idea how she could sit there and listen to what happened to her children in such detail.
The arrogance of these people thinking they would get away with such a gruesome crime is next level. The defense really has nothing to defend. You can tell in their cross exam.
The fire pit appears as though it hasn’t been touched since it was used to dispose of Tylee 9 months prior given all the evidence found in and around it.
@@Mataylor17 Exactly - they’re laying a foundation. Also highlighting areas of reasonable doubt. Anyone thinking this is a slam dunk for prosecution isn’t paying attention. Lastly, remember Casey Anthony.
totally agree. It freaks me out every time I hear L talking on jail phone calls... how delusional she sounds... like a Stepford Wife.... "you weren't there... you are judging but you don't know everything" and "I would love to tell you but I can't"... with this soft fake baby voice. Makes my skin crawl!!!!
@@Mataylor17 I don't see how that gets her a not guilty? Just because she fell for Chad's stupid stories, if she did, that doesn't excuse murder or conspiracy to murder. I can't go out and be involved in murder, then say oh that person tricked me so really I'M the victim here. I would be responsible for my actions and maybe get a lighter sentence if my story was believed. No one is saying he physically forced her to kill or allow her children to be killed. That would be the only way it would lead to not guilty in my opinion.
Muchelle: Correct, Lori does not have a good case. It's seems defense will argue that Lori was a "good," mother before meeting Chad. Then she was under his spell, manipulated by him to participate in these crimes. I suspect Chad's defense will do the same, argue that he was a good husband and father, until he met Lori. If the jury accepts those arguments, it could reduce the punishment. The evidence against Lori and Chad is overwhelming. The defense is aware there is no way to create "reasonable doubt," So they are likely to argue, "diminished capacity." Attorneys work with what they have. This case is as close to a video of a "smoking gun," case as it gets.
This case is the most insane case I have ever witnessed, yet, it’s a mental gymnastics due to the calmness of the court and case, it’s driving me, BANANAS. I never thought I would say this, but Lori really does need to be institutionalized, she truly believes this, it’s actually terrifying. She needs to understand what she has done, which she doesn’t seem to have any grasp of reality.
I THINK IT JUST EVOLVED ! NO MURDERS. IN. BEGINNING ! SHE COULD BE A " GODESS " MARRIED. TO MORONI , FRIENDS WITH JESUS IN PREVIOUS LIFE !! AND IT GREW AS LIFE HAPPENED !! I ALSO THINK SHE KILLED # 3 , JOE RYAN AFRAID OF LOSING TYLEES. MONEY AND FOR HIS INSURANCE !! THEN AS THINGS PROGRESSED KILLED CHARLES FOR HIS INSURANCE ( BUT DIDN'T GET IT ! THEN DECIDED SHE WAS TIRED OF TAKING CARE OF CHILDREN , ANGRY SHE WOULD NEED TO SUPPORT THEM AND DECIDED IT WAS HER RIGHT TO TAKE THEIR MONEY FOR HER USE SINCE NO MILLIONS. FROM CHARLES !! REMEMBER SHE USED SCRIPTURE TO SAY IT WAS OKAY TO KILL JOE ! THE PASSAGE SHE USED DOESN'T QUITE SAY THAT IN THE KING JAMES VERSION THO ! DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE BOOK OF MORMON THO !!
The money grab indicates she and Chad are rationalizing their beliefs to make the murders "necessary" spiritually. So, to me it's greed as well as delusion.
If Lori were institutionalized she could be released after a few years if deemed competent. NO WAY. This evil needs to be locked up for the rest of her days.
He’s having a hard time seeing the bones.🤷♀️Maybe he’s having a hard time realising his client is responsible for the bones being in the ground in the first place. What is Lori doing hearing all of this? Why isn’t she in tears at the very least and hysterical at the most. Why isn’t she shouting out ‘who killed my children?’ God she is one cold excuse for a human being. In years to come when she is living out her old age in prison she will probably regret her summer of madness in Hawaii. Maybe she will be haunted by the fact that her judgement day is approaching and she faces her God. Maybe. 🤷♀️🧤
Have you Ever been on a Jury??? These breaks Are Very Important for the JURORS!! I’ve been on 4 Cases, and we APPRECIATED THOSE BREAKS!! “ TRY IT SOMETIME, you will know why the Breaks!!
I believe there are rules re: flow of a court proceeding, and it gives guidelines. I'm almost certain those guidelines/rules include having to have breaks, just like a unionized industry.
Where is the missing part between day 15 part 1 and 2. Summer was still on the stand and had just been asked a question on defenses cross. Then it abruptly ended and this started with her bein go released. 1:54
I don't think this woman should be let loose, who knows what more she is capable of doing. Listening to the phone calls she doesn't sound very remorseful. Almost as if she feels justified .
I think she truly believes her own narrative that's why she refused to let her defense team say anything about her mental health in relation to this horrific crime.
All three are busy 🐝🐝🐝 at the storage unit in the month of Oct. This also shows conspiracy. Chad can’t say he was unaware of the storage unit, he can’t say he wasn’t involved w/ Lori after a little slap on her rear-end, taking boxes and duffle bag into unit, and since he went into unit, he saw gun totes, too. They called each other from burner phones, as well. Mr. Pryor, ya better make a deal for ur client, not looking so good.
Good point. Also, if the defense tries to say Lori thought what she was doing was ok, she wouldn't be using burner phones and hiding everything every step of the way.
I am confused. Watching from the States I didn't have ANY commercials. Are you outside of the States? If so, who is adding them?? Perhaps each country pays google to insert commercials?? Now I am really curious.
Trial questions are not always easy to keep on top of. The "uhms" may be making sure they ask everything they need to, or it could be attorney's manner of speaking.
@@Dozidotes I watched the entire 6 weeks of the Depp v. Heard trial, Murdaugh trial and several other super high profile trials in the last few years.The "UMs" were never an issue. In fact, in public speaking on the most basic level, this is a very poor way of communicating and puts a person's credibility on the line. A pause instead would be a little more effective but they both indicate a stall in the thought process. Occasionally used? Expected and no big deal. But when they proliferate every sentence it is hideously annoying and greatly reduces the effectiveness of what's being discussed. It's unbearable in this trial.
Completely normal in most of the trials I watch. The ones where it's not are usually high paid lawyers that likely trained that out of their vocabulary somehow. Um is a natural filler word when we humans are thinking. That doesn't go away just because you are a lawyer and will likely increase in a high profile case where they know the public is going to pick apart everything they say or do.
Laura: Strong emotion is reserved for closing arguments. Otherwise the jury can miss the importance or lack of importance of various testimony or evidence. Neither side wants that to occur as or can hurt their case.
@@sheilasmith7779 you’re right. But OMG it feels so empty. It’s like they are all discussing what to do about a troubling neighborhood intersection or something.
Concerned that this testimony and other will give Chads Defense Team more opportunities to prepare and possibly cover things ? Anyone else? Even though I’m certain they were told NOT TO WATCH , personally idk if I’d trust that.
I’m late to this trial but the investigator said Lori and Chad removed a rear car seat from the Nissan and a soars tire putting it in the storage unit Did they remove these to transport the bodies ? Then they returned the next day to put it back in their car . Why else would they have removed that ? I hope the FBI really throughly checked that vehicle out !
So a shooter could lie in that space in the jeep to aim at Brandon Boudreaux. IIR the tire was off cause the window wouldn't open with the tire still there. But it's been a hot minute
By "in the Nissan" he means the drove up to the storage place in the Nissan, and drove away again with the Jeep's parts inside their Nissan to transport them to the Jeep
Don't be afraid of a little cold...... Take care of yourself and keep your immune system healthy and strong and you'll be fine😂 even if people around you are sick
Amazing that this officer couldn’t have refreshed his recollection noting 2 or 3 dates and circumstances at a time. Rather than needing to be refreshed for every. Single. Date. Ugh the pace of this trial. And Boyce is constantly so concerned about his getting breaks.
The breaks aren't just for the judge. They are also trying to make the jury and the counsel comfortable. The judge is doing an excellent job running this case.
I am curious…I know Lori doesn’t want to use insanity defense, but can the defense counsel use a defense stating that Lori actually believes she did the right thing? That she is a martyr for her “faith”? I believe this is why the defense is so passive.
Interesting theory. Lori does seem to insist that she's totally innocent in all this, and the defense knows that's garbage and has nothing to make that claim, so that might be why they've been quiet. If that's the angle she wants to take, all they can do is stay quiet.
I totally agree I think arsenic if you dose it overtime it is a slow killer it will mimic age related medical condition heart failure kidneys etc... and it will appear to be a natural cause of death unless you are really looking for it, over overtime it's hard to detect it in small doses. Higher higher doses the smell is like almond, but small doses undetectable
That Defence lawyer sounds like he is disembodied. From the grave or outer space maybe. Very mind numbing to say the least. Lori is being slowly snared in a web from which there is no scape. The best witness in the courthouse--surveillance cameras and Internet Technology😅🧤
There are aerial photos of the fire pit and the excavated pet cemetery if you'll do a Google search of Chad Daybell's property and click on images. Hope this helps you to visualize the size of what the witnesses are describing. 🌺
Omg!!! These detectives when having to dig for these children and finding body parts and remains !! My heart goes out to them . I CSNNOT imagine finding children’s teeth! Imo a huge failure at the end of this witness the State could have gone further w what they found during the digging it needed IMO to be talked about much more in depth ! No talk about the burning but one question! I apologize but is this some high school level school play w their line of questioning and so many missed opportunities w THIS witness and others ! Is the Stare just assuming it’s a slam dunk so no need to go further? Is the point not to get a FULL conviction? Why are they cutting corners w line if questioning w THIS witness ? So many failed opportunities! Have I fallen from the moon here ? My jaw is on the floor AGAIN due to their huge fails! It’s common sense to me !
IMO 😅 I think he committed suicide. He either was brainwashed and influenced by Chad & Lori to do so "as his purpose here on earth was fulfilled". Maybe even was promised a greater life somewhere else after he left this life. Or he came to the realization that he was manipulated and all of this was one big lie.
@@pettrastrydom1129 If it was suicide (by poison?), I am still curious how so many of the adults that are dead had the SAME pink foaming at the mouth...and then Joe that was too decayed to know how he looked when he died. With their travels to South and Central America I have to wonder if there is a foreign drug the US didn't test for.
This female DA kept on asking dumb and useless questions like ‘did you ask for the copy’, ‘is this the copy you received’, ‘why you ask this copy’. Only one out of three questions is meaningful. She wasted two-third of the time in the courtroom.
First, dumb not dump. Second, these are questions you have to ask in court or the defense will object. Did you hear them object based on foundation? That's what those questions are for, building foundation.
@@awright119021 Doesn't mean it wasn't wasting time. He said he went there and got a copy....clearly he had to ask them for a copy. So many of those questions WERE time wasters. ***One case I watched they kept asking something like "what did you do on Friday the 23rd?" .."I went to the store" "Do you remember what day you went to the store?" "yes, it was Friday" "Did you go anywhere on Friday?" "yes I went to the store." "So on Friday, did you find yourself going to the store?" "yes." ****It was painful to watch and not one person (besides me) said "asked and answered." The tedium could drive a person crazy!!
Is it just me or does it seem like the prosecution seem to always stop short of asking the big question? They ask all of these little questions and then leave me hanging
At this point I am leaning towards Chad being under Tammy’s spell. Tammy has schemed and manipulated people her entire life. Unfortunately she met Chad with his weird ideas and found a way to manipulate him to her advantage. Chad on his own was rather harmless writing his books that didn’t sell well.
Because his testimony is covering many days and many events that happened a year or more ago. When a person keeps a diary they will not remember what he/she experience and wrote about a year ago.
@@h2oquality2010 I remember (maybe incorrectly) that cause could not be determined for Tylee because of the way she was disposed of, but that JJ's cause of death was asphyxia
I wonder if she was drugged to quiet her (to get her out there without a lot of resistance) and then shot. Because remember Chad wrote that stupid message to his wife about having to shoot a raccoon near the pet cemetery. I think he was planting an alibi as to why there was a loud rifle shot on his property.
I think you mean Tylee and I don't think there's been any evidence about gunshot, but I think he texted Tammy to explain a new burial spot in the pet cemetery, not sound of gunshot. I'm pretty sure if she was shot there would've been a round found during sifting, but maybe not
00:01:44 Rick Schmitt (Rexburg Detective)
00:22:42 continue after break
00:45:21 Rick Schmitt cross examination
00:51:50 Steve Daniels (FBI Special Agent)
You rock, Tal! Thank you 🙏
Thanks so much!
Thank you! 👍🏼
Thank you!!
@talmatan97853 you deserve a medal for this!! I couldn’t bear the 1st guy.
This last guy testifying in this audio of all the steps they went through and what all they were discovering is very good, clear and concise in his telling of it..he’s very easy to follow along.
What a great perspective! He was annoying me going back to his records for every question. I was thinking “Did he not prepare for trial?” But, you gave me a more positive outlook. So, thank you! 🙏🏾❤️
@@AidaShawJ.D. Perspective is everything. It’s why politics is so difficult.
The way these defense attorneys talk, makes me want to throw myself out of a moving car.
😂 I’ve gotten used to it and I kinda like them. 🤷🏻♀️
I want to slap them
Poor kids… RIP JJ and Tylee 🙏🕊️
This has got to b the most calm and quiet trial i believe ive ever seen
It's a slam dunk for prosecution
It’s missing a strong commanding voice on both sides…sure not like what you see in the movies.
It definitely lacks luster
The Trial Ain’t done yet!! Imagine, what Chad is wondering, what’s going on in the Court???
The lack of cameras was a good decision IMO. The court doesn't appear or sound like the chaotic mishmash of other highly televised trials. As much as I would like to see the optics for this particular subject, overall it lends to a more deliberate and less confusing scenario for the jury,
She says in the jail call with her sister when adked about dancing with chad and lori said that was months later. So basically she is saying she knew they were dead before they were discovered . Wonder why state did not ask the sister about that statement
Great catch! You are absolutely right!👏🏻
How was someone as dangerous as Alex who had served time for violence who had had a head injury allowed to hold a gun legally !? or even illegally .
I agree, How and WTF is going on in AZ to allow this to happen. The whole country should rise up and call them out. The shenanigans involved in not answering Charles attempts to cut this whole mess at the pass implicates the AZ PD . I pray they are put on the line AND PUNISHED. The world is watching.
Because 'Murica
I lived in AZ for many years and I can tell you that because Alex was white, fairly calm and rational and in a nice neighborhood the police were predisposed to believe his story. Had he been a woman, a person of color or a person in a run-down or ghetto environment he would have been arrested on suspicion of homicide. Money and the appearance of social status speak volumes in that area. The police dropped the ball horribly in this case. The true heroes are the family of Charles Vallow, who immediately started raising questions and concerns about the death of their family member, and later the disappearance of the children. They knew right away that the death of Charles was no mere altercation. The police should have known it based on what Charles had been trying to alert them to, but they dropped the ball. No nice way to say it.
@@shelbyhunkler9259 I agree your every word.
@Shelby Hunkler true, but people if color and people in poor communities commit way more crimes on a daily basis. So it makes perfect sense that police would be more suspicious in those areas as opposed to a neighborhood with very low crime
Thank you for broadcasting these full trial recordings. This way I know I didn't miss anything, as opposed to the shorter clips. 😊
I wonder if Nate Eaton has ever considered writing a book about some of his cases he's reported on. He is a wonderful reporter
I think he said he’s writing one s-l-o-w-l-y. 😊
But I could be thinking of A-Aron over at Growing Up in Scientology.🤷♀️
I agree
He is, BUT we, in Idaho, don't want to lose him!! ❤
@@wandawelsh9209 , I don't blame you, I wouldn't want to lose him either. He is a great reporter very likeable person and very intelligent.
Unbelievable what these people did. I just can't fathom it, thankfully!
Exactly!!
I don’t think she believed that BS - it was a way to start over without baggage and with a lover she was hot for…
I understand what you mean. I feel like my mind has been polluted. Just by the little bit I know.
OMG listening to the description of how Tylee's remains were uncovered and how she was in pieces, was utterly heartbreaking. It must have been very hard, for the family to hear all the gruesome details. I have been in tears hearing it all. My God.The obliteration of Tylee and JJ's lives accounted for nothing in Lori's eyes. I find it very difficult to comprehend how a mother could allow this to happen, but then again, she is no mother. God won't forgive you Lori.
He would forgive her if she encountered true repentance for her actions. However, narcissistic markers usually indicate that the person NEVER thinks they're at fault, no matter the facts....
She had convinced herself that Charles, Tylee , JJ and Tammy were not inhabiting those bodies. In doing so she was ridding the earth of evil so she and Chad could usher in their version of “ the last days”. Very psychotic stuff
Typical…commit crimes and then say it doesn’t matter I’ll be forgiven. It’s so hypocritical.
God is the ultimate Judge. He is just, true, and vengeance is His.
Lori actually believes she has done the right thing by her children. Her beliefs, combined with Chads, led Lori to believe she was sending her kids to the "other side of the veil" and saving them from the "end times"........thats why she is so calm about EVERYTHING.....
If I were a juror, I'd want to wrap up the trail so I can get back to my life, instead of shorter days
@CMR My thoughts exactly. Lori needs to pay for everyone's therapy (to get over the horror) going forward
I can tell by the questions the defense is putting out there that they are going to blame this all on Chad and Alex.
Chad’s lawyer already blamed it on Alex
Good attemp by defense to invalidate the Security's search methods by his mocking and derisive tone, so nice to hear Daniel's clear explanation.
Defence hasn't got much.Trying to sow chaos is about all...
IMO. I think the defense knows very well Lori is as quilty as hell.
Thank you😃 for sharing with us. Excellent audio.
Why does everyone sound like they are on tranquilizers
Maybe they are
It sounds slowed down a touch
Slow thinking .
FBI agent was the only one who sounded like he was prepared and educated
Unsure about the judge….but I believe the defense attorney is trying to sound sexy 🤮
This is horrific! Pure narcissism and evil. How sick to think they would get away with it.
I’m gonna be disappointed if the defenses case is going to rely on people saying she was a good mom, until she met Chad. The word UNTIL will still imply she is guilty. Can’t wait to see what else they have.
Horrific having to find and smell their remains...
Thanks for the coverage!
Defense attorney Thomas must work hard to ask the most irrelevant nonsense questions ever! Ommggg
He's pompous and completely arrogant too! You can hear it in his voice. Yes he has a job to do, but that doesn't entail berating and belittling witnesses or the judge!!
Paula Owsley, NATE EATON is journalist with E IDAHO NEWS. This young man 👨 is exceptionally good at his work in reporting the news stories that he works on and interviews that he does,he is very caring in the way he does his work. He has 3kids and his wife is very caring as well being understanding of the huge amount of hrs. That NATE has had to be away from his family. He breaks things down so we can understand better and everyday after the court is done for the day he breaks down the adio tapes of each part of that day's trial proceedings. He puts in alot of work yhat most journalists reporting would not do.watchingfrom Akron, OHIO 😊😊😊😊😊
He's the 👌 best
Attorney Thomas' badgering should be objected to.
defense objecting to exhibits just so he can talk- stop wasting time!!
I wish they would stop using the term "burial site". Use "dumping site", much more fitting to how they were tossed out like garbage.
Agreed
They need to emphasize that the children were buried, not just dumped. What they are saying is appropriate.
What I would like to know is, what is Lori doing whilst the detective is describing the remains of her children ?
I imagine she's escaping to the inner false reality she's lived in all along. She probably enters one of Chad's "portals" in order to psychologically disassociate from the horrific reality she's created.
I really wonder how she reconciles these being bodies that she raised. In Tylee's case, the baby she gave birth to. I know they've convinced themselves that it wasn't Tylee and JJ, but at the very least they seem to understand that these are their bodies.
I’m thinking LV still believes they were zombies, and needed to be gone.
Lori in her mind doesn't see it as killing her children, she sees it as killing the zombies who took over their bodies. The only way to get rid of the zombies was to destroy the children's bodies. She believes that their spirits left their bodies long before they where murdered
This made me want to vomit. If this happened to anyone I knew, I’d pass out. I have no idea how she could sit there and listen to what happened to her children in such detail.
The arrogance of these people thinking they would get away with such a gruesome crime is next level. The defense really has nothing to defend. You can tell in their cross exam.
The fire pit appears as though it hasn’t been touched since it was used to dispose of Tylee 9 months prior given all the evidence found in and around it.
I AGREE 100%!!!!!
@@Mataylor17 Exactly - they’re laying a foundation. Also highlighting areas of reasonable doubt. Anyone thinking this is a slam dunk for prosecution isn’t paying attention.
Lastly, remember Casey Anthony.
totally agree. It freaks me out every time I hear L talking on jail phone calls... how delusional she sounds... like a Stepford Wife.... "you weren't there... you are judging but you don't know everything" and "I would love to tell you but I can't"... with this soft fake baby voice. Makes my skin crawl!!!!
@@Mataylor17 I don't see how that gets her a not guilty? Just because she fell for Chad's stupid stories, if she did, that doesn't excuse murder or conspiracy to murder. I can't go out and be involved in murder, then say oh that person tricked me so really I'M the victim here. I would be responsible for my actions and maybe get a lighter sentence if my story was believed. No one is saying he physically forced her to kill or allow her children to be killed. That would be the only way it would lead to not guilty in my opinion.
The jury had to be relieved when the judge called it a day... last testimony was rough, and we didn't see what they saw.
Who operated the drone? Really? Grasping at straws...
She doesn’t seem to have any defense or any explanation for anything
Defense will be Chad made me do it
SHE WILL ANSWER LATER !!
Muchelle: Correct, Lori does not have a good case. It's seems defense will argue that Lori was a
"good," mother before meeting Chad. Then she was under his spell, manipulated by him to participate in these crimes.
I suspect Chad's defense will do the same, argue that he was a good husband and father, until he met Lori.
If the jury accepts those arguments, it could reduce the punishment.
The evidence against Lori and Chad is overwhelming. The defense is aware there is no way to create "reasonable doubt," So they are likely to argue, "diminished capacity."
Attorneys work with what they have.
This case is as close to a video of a "smoking gun," case as it gets.
I'm wondering how Lori is behaving during this testimony! I hope she's miserable.
She is miserable...that her Hawaiian beach vacation got cut short.
This case is the most insane case I have ever witnessed, yet, it’s a mental gymnastics due to the calmness of the court and case, it’s driving me, BANANAS.
I never thought I would say this, but Lori really does need to be institutionalized, she truly believes this, it’s actually terrifying. She needs to understand what she has done, which she doesn’t seem to have any grasp of reality.
@Hartley It's my view that She is mentally ill. Charles even said She was on medication, and thought the lack of it explained her behavior in Jan 2019
She needs to be unprogramed. De-brainwashing. I would assume the DOC would recommend it.
I THINK IT JUST EVOLVED ! NO MURDERS. IN. BEGINNING ! SHE COULD BE A " GODESS " MARRIED. TO MORONI , FRIENDS WITH JESUS IN PREVIOUS LIFE !! AND IT GREW AS LIFE HAPPENED !! I ALSO THINK SHE KILLED # 3 , JOE RYAN AFRAID OF LOSING TYLEES. MONEY AND FOR HIS INSURANCE !! THEN AS THINGS PROGRESSED KILLED CHARLES FOR HIS INSURANCE ( BUT DIDN'T GET IT ! THEN DECIDED SHE WAS TIRED OF TAKING CARE OF CHILDREN , ANGRY
SHE WOULD NEED TO SUPPORT THEM AND DECIDED IT WAS HER RIGHT TO TAKE THEIR MONEY FOR HER USE SINCE NO MILLIONS. FROM CHARLES !!
REMEMBER SHE USED SCRIPTURE TO SAY IT WAS OKAY TO KILL JOE ! THE PASSAGE SHE USED DOESN'T QUITE SAY THAT IN THE KING JAMES VERSION THO ! DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE BOOK OF MORMON THO !!
The money grab indicates she and Chad are rationalizing their beliefs to make the murders "necessary" spiritually. So, to me it's greed as well as delusion.
If Lori were institutionalized she could be released after a few years if deemed competent. NO WAY. This evil needs to be locked up for the rest of her days.
East Idaho News mention!!! 11:10 ❤
He’s having a hard time seeing the bones.🤷♀️Maybe he’s having a hard time realising his client is responsible for the bones being in the ground in the first place. What is Lori doing hearing all of this? Why isn’t she in tears at the very least and hysterical at the most. Why isn’t she shouting out ‘who killed my children?’
God she is one cold excuse for a human being. In years to come when she is living out her old age in prison she will probably regret her summer of madness in Hawaii. Maybe she will be haunted by the fact that her judgement day is approaching and she faces her God. Maybe. 🤷♀️🧤
These breaks seem like the only thing on the judge’s mind sometimes.
I am shocked at how short the proceedings are each day of this case in general.
Have you Ever been on a Jury??? These breaks Are Very Important for the JURORS!! I’ve been on 4 Cases, and we APPRECIATED THOSE BREAKS!! “ TRY IT SOMETIME, you will know why the Breaks!!
@@eileenstehr7680 I agree!!
Yes, keeping the juror’s’ wellbeing should be on his mind. It’s a terrible job and the perform is abysmal. 🙏🏾
I believe there are rules re: flow of a court proceeding, and it gives guidelines. I'm almost certain those guidelines/rules include having to have breaks, just like a unionized industry.
The female lawyer is doing a great job
There are 2 of them, Ms. Blake & Ms. Smith....
@@HapticFrequencies ok wasn't aware 2 ..
@Olga Martin Yeah, but you are stilI right, though. Both of them are doing a fabulous job....
Defense attorney sniffs like he’s snorting during breaks. Ha
Where is the missing part between day 15 part 1 and 2. Summer was still on the stand and had just been asked a question on defenses cross. Then it abruptly ended and this started with her bein go released. 1:54
Nate are Kay and Larry at the court every day if so how are they ?
I don't think this woman should be let loose, who knows what more she is capable of doing. Listening to the phone calls she doesn't sound very remorseful. Almost as if she feels justified .
I think she truly believes her own narrative that's why she refused to let her defense team say anything about her mental health in relation to this horrific crime.
Are Kay and Larry there
First time I ever seen The Lawyers so Quiet in a Case 🤪
All three are busy 🐝🐝🐝 at the storage unit in the month of Oct.
This also shows conspiracy. Chad can’t say he was unaware of the storage unit, he can’t say he wasn’t involved w/ Lori after a little slap on her rear-end, taking boxes and duffle bag into unit, and since he went into unit, he saw gun totes, too. They called each other from burner phones, as well.
Mr. Pryor, ya better make a deal for ur client, not looking so good.
Good point. Also, if the defense tries to say Lori thought what she was doing was ok, she wouldn't be using burner phones and hiding everything every step of the way.
Too many commercial interruptions
I am confused. Watching from the States I didn't have ANY commercials. Are you outside of the States? If so, who is adding them?? Perhaps each country pays google to insert commercials?? Now I am really curious.
Was gonna say, EIN is getting that AdSense bag 😂
If you download the video then you don't get ads
@@maxineswart5748 I am watching youtube on the web with no downloads and I get NO COMMERCIAL breaks.
Really, the defense has a problem with the fact a grid wasn't used when they found Tilees melted flesh and teeth?
It's their job to poke holes...
Hey defense, again the jury isn't going to like you. I don't like having their time wasted like that
It's called doing their job or do you wish for her to get a mistrial?
This Prosecutor asks the right questions but IMO needs practice and experience on how to ask the questions..lots of “ums”
If you go to courts often ALL at the UMM very often it seems to be what they do while developing their thoughts while speaking
Her "UMs" are insufferable!!
Trial questions are not always easy to keep on top of. The "uhms" may be making sure they ask everything they need to, or it could be attorney's manner of speaking.
@@Dozidotes I watched the entire 6 weeks of the Depp v. Heard trial, Murdaugh trial and several other super high profile trials in the last few years.The "UMs" were never an issue. In fact, in public speaking on the most basic level, this is a very poor way of communicating and puts a person's credibility on the line. A pause instead would be a little more effective but they both indicate a stall in the thought process. Occasionally used? Expected and no big deal. But when they proliferate every sentence it is hideously annoying and greatly reduces the effectiveness of what's being discussed. It's unbearable in this trial.
Completely normal in most of the trials I watch. The ones where it's not are usually high paid lawyers that likely trained that out of their vocabulary somehow. Um is a natural filler word when we humans are thinking. That doesn't go away just because you are a lawyer and will likely increase in a high profile case where they know the public is going to pick apart everything they say or do.
Too many commercial interruptions!🤬
The ads are excessive
Its the price of getting free content.
I’m surprised that @mrballen hasn’t done a video on this yet
he will 🤞🏻
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Could this guy not have reviewed his report? Geez!
I know, right!? He acts like he has cases bigger than this one?!?!? Really? In Idaho?? In Rexburg?!? I highly doubt it!!!
I'm glad they are using Tylee and JJs names. I hate it when they say " the body ".
Absolutely no passion in this case. I want some Anger and hunger for Justice from the state.
Laura: Strong emotion is reserved for closing arguments. Otherwise the jury can miss the importance or lack of importance of various testimony or evidence. Neither side wants that to occur as or can hurt their case.
@@sheilasmith7779these folks are unusually monotone and soft spoken though. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
@@sheilasmith7779 you’re right. But OMG it feels so empty. It’s like they are all discussing what to do about a troubling neighborhood intersection or something.
@@rebeculus it’s driving me crazy to be honest. I just hope the jury gets angry at what they people went through because of this woman.
Concerned that this testimony and other will give Chads Defense Team more opportunities to prepare and possibly cover things ?
Anyone else?
Even though I’m certain they were told NOT TO WATCH , personally idk if I’d trust that.
Good thing they had an actual professional as a witness since Mr. BYU Security practically sounded like he was working for the defense 🙄
Too many adds. I’m over this.
Get premium then you have no adds
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Same Premium Red here, and still satisfied . 🍿
@@platinum5798 whatever…..utube ur paying for it??? Give me a break.
@@platinum5798 it ain’t worth it
“Go find some stuff”…really? This guy is a horrible defense atty.
I’m late to this trial but the investigator said Lori and Chad removed a rear car seat from the Nissan and a soars tire putting it in the storage unit
Did they remove these to transport the bodies ?
Then they returned the next day to put it back in their car .
Why else would they have removed that ? I hope the FBI really throughly checked that vehicle out !
So a shooter could lie in that space in the jeep to aim at Brandon Boudreaux. IIR the tire was off cause the window wouldn't open with the tire still there. But it's been a hot minute
By "in the Nissan" he means the drove up to the storage place in the Nissan, and drove away again with the Jeep's parts inside their Nissan to transport them to the Jeep
Who thinks Lari is going to take the stand? If she is truly innocent she should take that stand, right?
Someone got everyone on the prosecution and defense teams sick. People with colds should stay home until they are well.
Some caugh from allergies, who said they are sick ?
Don't be afraid of a little cold...... Take care of yourself and keep your immune system healthy and strong and you'll be fine😂 even if people around you are sick
You actually catch and have a cold approx 10 days before you have symptoms
Uh, what????
Amazing that this officer couldn’t have refreshed his recollection noting 2 or 3 dates and circumstances at a time. Rather than needing to be refreshed for every. Single. Date.
Ugh the pace of this trial.
And Boyce is constantly so concerned about his getting breaks.
The breaks aren't just for the judge. They are also trying to make the jury and the counsel comfortable. The judge is doing an excellent job running this case.
I am curious…I know Lori doesn’t want to use insanity defense, but can the defense counsel use a defense stating that Lori actually believes she did the right thing? That she is a martyr for her “faith”? I believe this is why the defense is so passive.
Interesting theory. Lori does seem to insist that she's totally innocent in all this, and the defense knows that's garbage and has nothing to make that claim, so that might be why they've been quiet. If that's the angle she wants to take, all they can do is stay quiet.
In 54 years I can’t remember ever wishing another person eternal damnation. Until now.
Did the prosecution ever ask if there were raccoon remains in that pet cemetery?
I think another inquiry/autopsy needs done on Alex. The church LDS has a lot of power to make things go away.
I totally agree I think arsenic if you dose it overtime it is a slow killer it will mimic age related medical condition heart failure kidneys etc... and it will appear to be a natural cause of death unless you are really looking for it, over overtime it's hard to detect it in small doses. Higher higher doses the smell is like almond, but small doses undetectable
They had him cremated right away (likely to prevent him being exhumed like Tammy was a couple days or the day before)
But yes, his death definitely should be investigated further
That Defence lawyer sounds like he is disembodied. From the grave or outer space maybe. Very mind numbing to say the least. Lori is being slowly snared in a web from which there is no scape. The best witness in the courthouse--surveillance cameras and Internet Technology😅🧤
I just can't stand when Lori laughs at her Attorneys she makes me sick
You can hear her??
She won't be laughing when they read the verdict
How big is this fire pit?..Bonfire big or sitting around having a few beers burning some fire logs big?
Big enough to see from a helicopter if that helps.
There are aerial photos of the fire pit and the excavated pet cemetery if you'll do a Google search of Chad Daybell's property and click on images. Hope this helps you to visualize the size of what the witnesses are describing. 🌺
I certainly hope Lori is seeing this. Sickening
Did the kid a decent ⚰ I hope this so Sad
He keeps calling it burial sites, but they weren't....
What we’re they?
They were buried so they were burial sites.
Omg!!!
These detectives when having to dig for these children and finding body parts and remains !!
My heart goes out to them . I CSNNOT imagine finding children’s teeth!
Imo a huge failure at the end of this witness the State could have gone further w what they found during the digging it needed IMO to be talked about much more in depth !
No talk about the burning but one question!
I apologize but is this some high school level school play w their line of questioning and so many missed opportunities w THIS witness and others !
Is the Stare just assuming it’s a slam dunk so no need to go further? Is the point not to get a FULL conviction? Why are they cutting corners w line if questioning w THIS witness ? So many failed opportunities!
Have I fallen from the moon here ? My jaw is on the floor AGAIN due to their huge fails!
It’s common sense to me !
Who killed Alex?
Probably Lori and Chad, but the coroner said he died of “natural causes” 😮😢
We all want to know that: did he do it himself? Was it Lori? Chad? A zombie? And can anyone prove it?!?!
IMO 😅 I think he committed suicide.
He either was brainwashed and influenced by Chad & Lori to do so "as his purpose here on earth was fulfilled". Maybe even was promised a greater life somewhere else after he left this life.
Or he came to the realization that he was manipulated and all of this was one big lie.
@@pettrastrydom1129 If it was suicide (by poison?), I am still curious how so many of the adults that are dead had the SAME pink foaming at the mouth...and then Joe that was too decayed to know how he looked when he died. With their travels to South and Central America I have to wonder if there is a foreign drug the US didn't test for.
This female DA kept on asking dumb and useless questions like ‘did you ask for the copy’, ‘is this the copy you received’, ‘why you ask this copy’. Only one out of three questions is meaningful. She wasted two-third of the time in the courtroom.
First, dumb not dump. Second, these are questions you have to ask in court or the defense will object. Did you hear them object based on foundation? That's what those questions are for, building foundation.
@@awright119021 Doesn't mean it wasn't wasting time. He said he went there and got a copy....clearly he had to ask them for a copy. So many of those questions WERE time wasters. ***One case I watched they kept asking something like "what did you do on Friday the 23rd?" .."I went to the store" "Do you remember what day you went to the store?" "yes, it was Friday" "Did you go anywhere on Friday?" "yes I went to the store." "So on Friday, did you find yourself going to the store?" "yes." ****It was painful to watch and not one person (besides me) said "asked and answered." The tedium could drive a person crazy!!
I think they do that to leave no room for appeal after she's found quilty.
Is it just me or does it seem like the prosecution seem to always stop short of asking the big question? They ask all of these little questions and then leave me hanging
Last guy is weird, oddly "into" the pink flesh and "skoll". Weirdo
Why does some refer to jj and taylee as *children* not my niece or nephem. It rounds like she planned to hurt them from day 1😢
The prosecutor says ok a million times… after every dang answer!!!
So TF what.
I bet she's not laughing or smiling now.
At this point I am leaning towards Chad being under Tammy’s spell. Tammy has schemed and manipulated people her entire life. Unfortunately she met Chad with his weird ideas and found a way to manipulate him to her advantage. Chad on his own was rather harmless writing his books that didn’t sell well.
Tammy? You mean Lori?
@@ninallee she HAS to mean Lori. Wtf
???? What
😂
Must be a typo 😬
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Why does this guy need his notes so much
Because his testimony is covering many days and many events that happened a year or more ago.
When a person keeps a diary they will not remember what he/she experience and wrote about a year ago.
To be accurate! It’s good.
It's been 3 years since it happened and at least a month since he reviewed the videos. In the meantime he's living his regular life like all of us.
How was Kaylee kill, bullet to the head ext??? Then burned and dismembered??
Cause of death was not determined for Tylee and JJ.
@@h2oquality2010 I remember (maybe incorrectly) that cause could not be determined for Tylee because of the way she was disposed of, but that JJ's cause of death was asphyxia
I wonder if she was drugged to quiet her (to get her out there without a lot of resistance) and then shot. Because remember Chad wrote that stupid message to his wife about having to shoot a raccoon near the pet cemetery. I think he was planting an alibi as to why there was a loud rifle shot on his property.
I think you mean Tylee and I don't think there's been any evidence about gunshot, but I think he texted Tammy to explain a new burial spot in the pet cemetery, not sound of gunshot.
I'm pretty sure if she was shot there would've been a round found during sifting, but maybe not
@@nanharp6873 It could be what happened to JJ. I just haven't read or heard anything officially about his cause of death.