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I love Geezer’s explanation of Sabbath’s lyrical themes of “anti-war, anti-nuclear, science fiction”. An excellent retort to those who repeat the tired old trope about the members being involved in, and promoting so-called devil worship and satanism. Keeping in mind that it is management and the record company who have final control over album artwork and promototional material, all in the name of making money. (No criticism of the record company, it is, after all, called “the music business”) Black Sabbath started out as a kind of blues jazz improvisational group in the late 1960’s, their values at the time were in line with much of the anti-establishment idealism of the age. In the 1980’s those values were dismissed as “hippie culture” but the lyrics that Geezer wrote for songs such as “War Pigs” still ring true today. IMHO. Always have loved Sabbath, great tunes and mucho staying power throughout the decades.
Ozzy said they wore crosses on stage because they rejected an invitation to meet with a group of weirdos into black magic/black masses. A member said the group was going to put a hex on Sabbath for rejecting them, so they started wearing the Christian cross.
@@AlbertEinsteinSpock that's hilarious. I've never heard that before but it sounds valid. I never even understood Sabbaths connection with satanism, like not at all so it's confusing as hell when people bring it up. Until Dio they didn't make a single criticism of Christianity. Like they said, this is all based on an inverted cross on their first record that they weren't even told about. In my opinion that choice is so out of the blue, I guess all based on the spooky song that they thought sounded cool for the heavier style of playing. Perfect match too.
@@CJM-rg5rt Butler was raised Catholic and doesn't disavow it. Some of those Christian themes emerge in songs like "After Forever." Not that they were really practicing their faith much at that time. Ozzy survived his surgery but you've got to wonder if he'll ever be able to tour again standing up.
I was lucky enough to open a couple of shows for the Ian Gillian band back in '92. He was the coolest guy, coming up to me after the show telling me how good our set was. I asked him what his favorite album was, that he recorded. He kinda paused, and then he said that he really enjoyed writing and working on Born Again. He said " its so fkn heavy ". Now my band was a metal band in the vein of Metallica, so maybe he just wanted to feel modern. But no, this is Ian fn Gillian. He told me that he had to do Smoke on the Water second in the set, or the fans with just keep screaming for it. This show was on the East side of the Berlin Wall that just came down 3 years earlier, so it still looked and felt like communist Russia. We sold only one shirt, because no one had any extra money, again because of how poor everyone was. This was their first show in over a year. Very cool memory.
I used to communicate with Gillan by Ian several times a month, and sometimes hung out with him backstage. He always got us a beer. We talked about the Lyre bird, Dan McCafferty's vocals with Nazareth, all kinds of crap, but usually not about Purple. Doctors ordered him to cut back on communications with all but business/family/most important connections around 2013, due to his health issues. Nice guy, but extremely opinionated. Said discrimination was the only thing that ticked him off, but he actually got bent when I made a joke about sports> Question: "What is Absolute Zero?". Answer: The score of any soccer game." If you listen to Gillan's lyrics over the years ["Our Lady," et al.,], you can see he really struggles with his faith, or lack thereof.
I was actually glad to finally see an interview with Bev Bevans, hearing his opinion on playing for Black Sabbath after him being in ELO before that, since that was a completely different sounding kind of band. But I did read a Black Sabbath interview years ago in some magazine, where Tony Iommi was commenting on that 1983 line-up of the band. He said Bev Bevans nickname was: the "Birmingham Basher" since he hit his drums so hard that he dented the rims (or something to that effect. And in the same interview he said that Ian Gillans shriek was legendary.
I wish they explained to her that the lyrics are more of a warning against evil. Most people would understand that if they actually took the time to interpret the words, and not just assume that its satanic.
. “Could it be you're afraid of what your friends might say/ If they knew you believe in God above? /They should realize before they criticize / That God is the only way to love” - Black Sabbath, after forever
Well said. As a 54 Yr old huge Sabbath fan yet Christian this is something I m discovering. Geezer s lyrics go far deeper than people think. I m Still researching this! After Forever their song is a direct important song from them on all of this
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@@MrPlooky It doesn't matter; the devil believes in them.
Yeah, but I give her one thing, she doesn't show hatred or bias or disdain for the music they play. She doesn't show herself to be a heavy metal hating bitch (or bastard I would have said if it was a man), she at least doesn't ask questions or act like she just totally hates the music and is here because she was ordered to and had to do it or be fired. That in itself at this time says a whole lot about her. I'll take her over the bitch ass punks that interviewed bands with their bias obvious that they hated heavy metal and really wanted nothing to do with having to be there and interview them.
@@ibleedwhiskeyplanet1544 I hear ya. She just came across as someone that has no idea what metal is or even ever hear Sabbath. But she doesn't sound like a hater either. God bless everyone. 🎸
That interviewer sounds like the Redguard voice actor in the Elder Scrolls Oblivion game. Cool to see an interview of Black Sabbath's most underrated lineup.
This is one of the few albums that just blew me away. I've probably only had that reaction 3 times in my life. It's amazing to listen to the questions. How clueless the media was, and is about culture. Also, the generational descendants of the STANIC PANIC are now freaking out about evil books instead of evil music.
An older friend of mine told me that Ian Gillan joining Sabbtah was a huge deal and that the teaming got a lot of press in the US. It obviously shows here where this mainstream outlet is giving Sabbath the time of day.
After all these years Ian says... 14 whole years. Now its been nearly 50 years for Ian with Deep Purple, and Sabbath went a near 45 years. Crazy when you think how we used to think of Sabbath and Purple as the old guard so to speak.
This interviewer, proves two things; 1) there was a heavy connect between English and American youth in certain ways, at least back then,and perhaps some of those from the East, and 2) there's a strong disconnect between her and European roots that don't get it all, but she's there for a purpose. Best for them they didn't take it serious.
The idea of Ian Gillan joining Black Sabbath was a rather strange one, but it worked. "Born Again" is rather good album that fans are beginning to appreciate so many years after it's release. It should be remixed and re-released.
Awesome Sabbath! Version with heavy and big men Ian Gillan and Bev Bevan. Of course Tony and Geez upholding the name and image well. That was 25 years ago!
Prometheus Rising he was at his worst when it came to cocaine right here. Coke can make you anti social and irratable after alot of use and as an ex coke head I see myself it Tonys body language here
Thanks for uploading this rare clip. I really wish Geezer and Tony did a better job explaining their point of views and maybe defending themselves a bit. They’re a bit shy though.
Wow, I’ve lived with a vhs bootleg of this for over 20 years and like most bootlegs from then it was probably 5th generation with terrible picture and audio quality but I watched it about 100 times. I’ve never seen it like this before, great quality! Lol
Myself witnessed Born again with the stonehenge. I have to admit that show scared the F##k out of me. I believe Gillian was a great shoe in added to Sabbath at that time. To this day that album gives me chills. Awsome job!!! I love the fact that Gezzer and Toni no matter who joins them stay true to the message of evil is bad and Beware. The only True Sabbath though is with Bill and Ozzy. You cant fix something that is not broken.
Loved when Bev threw in his two cents on the "evil" discussion. Would have loved for him to have brought up something like "You know that evil sounding backwards voice in 'Fire on High'? You're looking at him." "Of one of your older concerts" ... misses opportunity to show the classic era of the band and instead rolls a promotional clip for a studio track. Given Ozzy's antics at the time, you have to wonder if there was an intentional disconnect here.
Ahh Tony and Geezer with the hair and mustaches. The best in all of rock! I've been a lifelong fan of Sabbath (the first song I remember hearing was Iron Man at about 4 or 5 years) through all of their iterations. Hopefully in the near future we'll get the remaster/remix of Born Again 🙏👍👏🤘🎸🎶
Ha-ha! Motorhead was really great (God rest 'em). Was my favorite band back when I was seventeen years old in 1986. Loved the fusion of heavy rock and hardcore punk. I believe that for a time they held the Guiness Book of World Record highest decibel concert. Coincidentally, Deep Purple with Ian Gillan held that title for a time as well. FYI
Saw Motorhead open for Sabbath at State Theatre in Kalamazoo, MI sometime in the 1990s. Sabbath had Tony Martin on vocals; very good, but not as good as Ozzy/Dio/Gillan. Motorhead were too loud, in my opinion. I want to be able to hear what each instrument is doing.
This could have been a much better interview if the TV host understood who she was talking to. It seems as if she prepped five or six minutes at most. She has no idea who Ian Gillan is or what iconic OTHER band he was in, she has no understanding of history or of the kind of music Sabbath had been playing. She was forever hung up on "evil" because she probably just learned about that a few minutes before going on the air. To make matters worse, during the interview, CBS showed a clip of Sabbath from the Ronnie James Dio days. This whole thing makes you wonder why Sabbath's press agent or PR person didn't properly advance what should have been an important piece of publicity.
Jim Fischer I love Dio but arguably Ian Gillan was a bigger name sat the time than Ronnie was. Or was it because Ian wasn’t that long with Purple at the time.
Jeff E. My point about Gillan was that he was in Purple and the interviewer didn’t know who he was . He wasn’t no Tipper Owens. I’m just wondering at the time was Gillan a forgotten name at the time because this was before mark 2 reunited, and Purple was more about the band and the magic of the band than the individual. Sabbath, there is a debate whether it is Ozzy or Iommi and whoever is with Iommi.
Jon Blackers you mean when he was just Gillan (the Band)? I’m only 40, I love purple and rainbow and Dio. I wasn’t alive back then . Was Gillan known in USA from Purple? Because at the time before Perfect Strangers he was only in Deep Purple for like four years.
@@salt27doggYeah, the IGB and Gillan years (76-82) I m 53 and missed out the 70's so I know where you re coming from :) MK 3 really was known in America but the sad thing for Gillan was he paved the way with MK 2 and then stepped out of the band just before USA DP MK 2 broke the states. Made/Live In japan really did it gor them, I think they easily could have taken a break and built on that legacy. In august 72 , he resigned. not rethinking that decision. He later on talked (Like he would after the split of 1993)nonsense about his motivations : that the band was not progressing etc. He kept up that story untill 84 when MK2 reformed probably because of the money. He needed that because Gillan although doing well albumwise did not attract enough audiences. In 1972 I guess management was to blame for pushing them too hard, thinking we might as well squueze this orange before their popularity goes away. Without his step we would not have BURN and Stormbringer and Made in Europe and CTTB but it was a big shame. I really love WDWTWA album, heavily underrated by band and others. Although Gillan solo did not have succes in the states the Perfect Strangers tour in 85 sold out bigtime(I read 2nd biggest after Springseen). ALL the MK 2 members were convinced it should be MK 2 to reform. I was thinking so as well but being honest about it : it wasnt like expectations were fullfilled although the reunion years really had great songs, shows, etc. Strangely enough, Gillan(after all the criticism) improved bit by bit after 85 but split and went solo. TOOLBOX (199) is the last album he showed his old feathers. Blackmore and Paicey returned to their old styles around 1990. 1993 was almost perfect, gigwise. . MK3 would have been great around 1985 but back then GH was not in shape and DC was breaking America with the album 87. By then his voice went down the drain. MK2 probably should have reformed around 1980 when Gillan still could sing and Blackmore was not wandering off into strange lands like he did after 84, technically /soundwise speaken. MK 3 could have been a major draw after 1992 because GH sobered up and since then never dissappointed , great albums and shows. As today he is still on a great level and I ll be seeing his "Deep Purple tour" soon. Although by then (1992)DC wasnt in shape anymore. I saw him in 83 and he was perfect. Well, on and on. |So much potential/talent/possible parallel histories.
It’s amazing they get reporters with no clue about the band that Gillian was in Deep Purple & Bev Bevan in ELO but def ask them about black magic & evil doing
I still listen to this album sometimes 35 years on..Def Leppard hates it so I knew it was going to be some heavy stuff...Didnt disappoint..Concert was not so great..Excellent album all the same.
She started the whole thing by talking about a new line-up getting together. Then said let's show some of your old stuff for some background. I was expecting Ozzy.
Why didn't they just say it's like horror movies only with loud music? What is so hard to understand about that? And actually Sabbath was never that loud the times I saw them. Only sort of average loud I'd say.
When I saw Black Sabbath in 1994 at the State theater in Detroit, MI. with the Tony Iommi, Tony Martin, Geezer Butler, and Bobby Rodinelli line-up. The concert was in a very small music hall and it was (by far) the loudest concert I've ever heard. But fast forward to 2006. I saw the group again in London, Ontario Canada when they were known as "Heaven & Hell since Dio was back in the group again. The line-up then was Iommi, Butler, Dio, and Vinny Appice. At this time I guess since Dio was back in the group, and they were drawing bigger audiences again compared to when I saw them in 1994. When I saw them this time they played at the John Labatt hockey arena, a really huge place. I had a horrible seat this time, almost at the complete opposite end of the arena from the stage. And half way across the floor between me and the stage there were about 40 sound, light, and whatever else kind of technicians with all of their equipment. The sound this time was not very good at all, because of the huge size of the building and my seat location. I am glad I got to see this line-up of the band, since I've never seen Dio before at a concert. But I'll take the bare-bones, Loudest concert I've ever been to concert that I saw them at in 1994 in Detroit, over the huge building, huge stage show, but poor sound and visibility of the stage when I saw them again in 2006 in Canada. From online videos that I've seen, Black Sabbath seems to use (for the most part) about the same number of onstage amplifiers during all their concerts, whether it's in a huge concert arena, or the tiny places like the ones they mostly played at the first time I saw them in 1994. I think it would help the sound of they would compensate in the larger places they played at, by maybe adding some extra amplifiers to help improve the sound quality in the bigger places they played in.
i think it would be really shitty for Ian and Bev to watch former members in a clip to "help the audience remember metal, heavy metal" like, damn, bold move, Nightwatch
They could have at least used something where they only showed Geezer and Tony and had no singing, something from the Paris show, a solo. They did not use Dio's voice, and only showed The Drummer once so someone was thinking. But, we're also looking at this from 2022, in 1983 they had limited access to things. Even TV stations. and Sabbath knew they were gong to play it.
I get that 83 was different times but this lady is from the middle ages with her questions. I was offended when she asked if the band is a joke. Have some respect!
An interesting one, at least. I wish they’d carried on for a couple years more than they did. I’m sure they’d have added some credible music to add to Sabbath’s incredible body of work.
It sucks when they put some clueless people to interview rock musicians! And playing a video of BS with Dio in the middle of the interview just confirm how clueless these people were!
Ian fit in because of similar habits! Tony is High AF.. never seen him engage and laugh as much... Maybe they were smitten with the host? It's like they are trying hard not to laugh😅😅😅
I love Ian Gillans response to the question of their image . No one else in the band could answer . It was a Politically Correct answer . Ritchie Blackmore hated Gillan , said he couldn't sing . Great clip from the past .
Nonsense. Blackmore said Gillan was "a fantastic singer back in the day." They used to room together. But when Gillan started getting sloshed and forgetting lyrics, Blackmore started getting p-ssed off. They regrouped in 1984 and all was going well. But then they put the worst song in rock history - "Bad Attitude" - as the lead track on the "House of Blue Light" album, it bombed and Gillan became such a lush that he was broomed out of the band. That's when the hatred started really kicking in. They've mended fences in recent years.
@@AlbertEinsteinSpock The only time I ever saw any reference to RB's saying that IG couldn't sing was an interview where he was talking about the direction they were beginning to take, towards a more bluesy sound. I assume this would have been 'round the time of WDWTWA, and IG said something George Harrison-like, "However you want me to sing, I"ll do it." Blackmore's response was that, no, you can't sing like that, and presumably, this was just another log on the fire that prompted IG's resignation letter. At that point, RB and Jon Lord were thinking "Paul Rodgers", and they actually reached out to him. When they started to put the band back together, Glenn Hughes was the first to be recruited, and "We're going after Paul Rodgers" was a major selling point, By the time they talked to Rodgers again, he was busy with Bad Company, and you know the rest. I digress. Fast forward to Ronnie James Dio's leaving Rainbow, and IG tells the story in his book, about how RB came 'round IG's house one day, wearing his pilgrim hat, and looking to have IG replace Ronnie in Rainbow. I'd have to read it all again, but presumably, there was still hope for their relationship at that point, and that RB had brought in RG as a producer and then bassist makes you think he realized past mistakes. Still, as you mention, by the time of "House of Blue Light", all the old wounds had come open again, and I think it was IG himself who compared that period of time to WDWTWA.
@@QuarrellaDeVil I know. I've read the books, the magazines, etc. Ian has a second, updated autobiography coming out, too. Gillan is an old chum of mine. He told me Blackmore didn't like Woman from Tokyo and didn't like Time to Kill. They both matured over the years, mellowed. I wish Steve Morse no ill will, but if he quits DP over the responsibilities of having to tend to his wife, I would hope Gillan would invite Ritchie to do a one-off jam, just for old time's sake and to see if hatchets can truly be buried. At this point, that looks like a pipe dream.
I hate it. It doesn't sound like Deep Purple. They were try to sound 1980s-ish instead of being true to what they are. The single worst first song for Purple on an album. It was beyond disappointing and, frankly, doomed the band. No one wanted to hear anything about Purple after that disgraceful opening track. What an abomination. It was their death knell. 'Mad Dog' should have been the lead track.@@Mike-aka747
Lmao Tony is so annoyed with her asking the same old "What is Heavy Metal?/Why is the band so evil?" questions that he had to deal with since 1970. Felisha was being flippant with some of her remarks: "You guys dont look evil, your just regular guys trying to put on an image". He patronizing remark at the end was uncalled for though.
It's like she is interviewing space men, she has all the notes but zero knowledge of the "culture", it's like a HeavyMetal (The adult illustrated fantasy magazine) version of a Heavy Metal show to her, Mad Max type people. Ian is a real front man, he took control of that interview, Ozzy would not be able to sustain a dialogue for that long. These guys are like 35 here, maybe younger. The Future still uncertain. Another Album would have been nice.
Lol, what a mess! The interviewer wanted a big ol' slice of Tony. She couldn't keep her hands to herself. Tony's just coked up and giggling the whole time. Bev looks like a fish out of water and Ian looks like he's wondering why the hell he's there at all. Sabbath really was a trainwreck during the Born Again era.
She appears intoxicated too, the whole thing is quite awkward. Back then, it's like American television couldn't connect the dots; four shy and nice behaving blokes playing this heavy music, they were expecting raving lunatics.
@@TheTVisions It had nothing to do with American television. A lot of good American hosts and interviews back then. This lady just isn't a hard-rocker; she tried to be friendly, but couldn't get off the evil theme because she didn't do any homework.
Gillan was an incredible singer back in the day, but said himself that is his vocal style wasn't a good fit. The "Born Again" album sounded great (other than the poor mixing), and they had a blast on that tour. Tony and Ian are best friends to this very day. But Gillan knew he wasn't the right fit long-term.
Born Again, one of the heaviest albums EVER recorded!
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The best sabbath album ever recorded. Metal rules
"You were the first Jesus Christ?"
"Well, not the original"
🤣
Lol she didn’t get the joke either 😎
Bev. .been drumming since the Move. ."before Jesus was born" 😆 LOL
I love Gillan. I would love to have a few drinks with him.
I love Geezer’s explanation of Sabbath’s lyrical themes of “anti-war, anti-nuclear, science fiction”. An excellent retort to those who repeat the tired old trope about the members being involved in, and promoting so-called devil worship and satanism. Keeping in mind that it is management and the record company who have final control over album artwork and promototional material, all in the name of making money. (No criticism of the record company, it is, after all, called “the music business”) Black Sabbath started out as a kind of blues jazz improvisational group in the late 1960’s, their values at the time were in line with much of the anti-establishment idealism of the age. In the 1980’s those values were dismissed as “hippie culture” but the lyrics that Geezer wrote for songs such as “War Pigs” still ring true today. IMHO. Always have loved Sabbath, great tunes and mucho staying power throughout the decades.
Ozzy said they wore crosses on stage because they rejected an invitation to meet with a group of weirdos into black magic/black masses. A member said the group was going to put a hex on Sabbath for rejecting them, so they started wearing the Christian cross.
Ozzy's dad made those crosses and gave one to each of them. Tony still wears his out of respect for him.
@@AlbertEinsteinSpock that's hilarious. I've never heard that before but it sounds valid. I never even understood Sabbaths connection with satanism, like not at all so it's confusing as hell when people bring it up. Until Dio they didn't make a single criticism of Christianity. Like they said, this is all based on an inverted cross on their first record that they weren't even told about. In my opinion that choice is so out of the blue, I guess all based on the spooky song that they thought sounded cool for the heavier style of playing. Perfect match too.
@@CJM-rg5rt Butler was raised Catholic and doesn't disavow it. Some of those Christian themes emerge in songs like "After Forever." Not that they were really practicing their faith much at that time. Ozzy survived his surgery but you've got to wonder if he'll ever be able to tour again standing up.
Yup. It has to do with the Frankfurt School, cultural revolution etc etc.
The interviewer is totally clueless but it's still awesome. Love the Born Again era.
Yep, Totally
Nothing 'Subtle' about the interviewer
Actually the Voice over beforehand was far worse than the female anchor
Don't you wish you could have done the interview she's got a lot more going than you
Absolutely awesome interview. I love the "Born Again" era of Black Sabbath. I love all Black Sabbath and Deep Purple and Ian Gillan stuff..
To the man that sung Smoke on the Water " you're new?"
No clue at all, she never even mentioned Deep Purple.
@@vasantiago3038 Right?
I was lucky enough to open a couple of shows for the Ian Gillian band back in '92. He was the coolest guy, coming up to me after the show telling me how good our set was. I asked him what his favorite album was, that he recorded. He kinda paused, and then he said that he really enjoyed writing and working on Born Again. He said " its so fkn heavy ". Now my band was a metal band in the vein of Metallica, so maybe he just wanted to feel modern. But no, this is Ian fn Gillian. He told me that he had to do Smoke on the Water second in the set, or the fans with just keep screaming for it. This show was on the East side of the Berlin Wall that just came down 3 years earlier, so it still looked and felt like communist Russia. We sold only one shirt, because no one had any extra money, again because of how poor everyone was. This was their first show in over a year. Very cool memory.
This is so cool!
I used to communicate with Gillan by Ian several times a month, and sometimes hung out with him backstage. He always got us a beer. We talked about the Lyre bird, Dan McCafferty's vocals with Nazareth, all kinds of crap, but usually not about Purple. Doctors ordered him to cut back on communications with all but business/family/most important connections around 2013, due to his health issues. Nice guy, but extremely opinionated. Said discrimination was the only thing that ticked him off, but he actually got bent when I made a joke about sports> Question: "What is Absolute Zero?". Answer: The score of any soccer game." If you listen to Gillan's lyrics over the years ["Our Lady," et al.,], you can see he really struggles with his faith, or lack thereof.
Wow! What an experience.
I obviously don't know him. But he is probably vocal wise, my most favourite of vocalists.
Great story.
I love this album because it just unapologetically crushes. It’s not meant to be deep or intellectual it’s just hard devilish rock.
Bev gives her a little shot when he refers to Ian as Jesus. She definitely dropped the ball not knowing Ian fronted Deep Purple.
Perhaps a reference to when Gillan sang the role of Jesus on the original/legendary "Jesus Christ Superstar" album in 1970.
I was actually glad to finally see an interview with Bev Bevans, hearing his opinion on playing for Black Sabbath after him being in ELO before that, since that was a completely different sounding kind of band. But I did read a Black Sabbath interview years ago in some magazine, where Tony Iommi was commenting on that 1983 line-up of the band. He said Bev Bevans nickname was: the "Birmingham Basher" since he hit his drums so hard that he dented the rims (or something to that effect. And in the same interview he said that Ian Gillans shriek was legendary.
I saw the tour he did a fine job
Bevan
I wish they explained to her that the lyrics are more of a warning against evil. Most people would understand that if they actually took the time to interpret the words, and not just assume that its satanic.
Most artists don't believe in the devil
. “Could it be you're afraid of what your friends might say/ If they knew you believe in God above? /They should realize before they criticize / That God is the only way to love”
- Black Sabbath, after forever
Well said. As a 54 Yr old huge Sabbath fan yet Christian this is something I m discovering. Geezer s lyrics go far deeper than people think. I m Still researching this! After Forever their song is a direct important song from them on all of this
@@MrPlooky It doesn't matter; the devil believes in them.
Facts
That lady should be interviewing Martha Stewart how to make cupcakes.
I know ..she is sweet and tries but pretty inept .
Yeah, but I give her one thing, she doesn't show hatred or bias or disdain for the music they play. She doesn't show herself to be a heavy metal hating bitch (or bastard I would have said if it was a man), she at least doesn't ask questions or act like she just totally hates the music and is here because she was ordered to and had to do it or be fired. That in itself at this time says a whole lot about her. I'll take her over the bitch ass punks that interviewed bands with their bias obvious that they hated heavy metal and really wanted nothing to do with having to be there and interview them.
@@ibleedwhiskeyplanet1544 I hear ya. She just came across as someone that has no idea what metal is or even ever hear Sabbath. But she doesn't sound like a hater either. God bless everyone. 🎸
@@ibleedwhiskeyplanet1544 You mean 101% of British music journalists and 99.99% of modern American journalists?
This SHOULD have been the face of 80's metal. If only...
Born again one of my favorite albums!
That interviewer sounds like the Redguard voice actor in the Elder Scrolls Oblivion game.
Cool to see an interview of Black Sabbath's most underrated lineup.
Was on headbangers
Some note Bev's sloppiness. I like to call it a jazz swing. He's loud as hell and has some great fills. Underrated in my book
Bev was a great stand in for Bill. Two genuine talents
Check out "Turkish Tram Conductor Blues" by The Move
It's a pretty heavy song for 1970.
It just didn't work very well in sabbath his War Pigs is very disappointing.
Tony and Geezer are legends 🤘🤘🤘🤘
This is one of the few albums that just blew me away. I've probably only had that reaction 3 times in my life. It's amazing to listen to the questions. How clueless the media was, and is about culture. Also, the generational descendants of the STANIC PANIC are now freaking out about evil books instead of evil music.
Geezers 80’s hair rules!
my my how times have changed. to have a major network have a whole rock band like this sit down and discuss music . never happen now
Although Dan Rather interviews individual rock stars on his show.
@@AlbertEinsteinSpock isnt that on cable though?
That chick has no idea who Ian Gillan is does she?
She's a Condescending Bitch!!
Maybe just another new vocalist
She had no idea of what she was doing there! She was so dumb and annoying!
They also misspelled Gillan's name when they fonted it up on screen.
@@TARDISNCOOKIES Cool video bro!🤘
An older friend of mine told me that Ian Gillan joining Sabbtah was a huge deal and that the teaming got a lot of press in the US. It obviously shows here where this mainstream outlet is giving Sabbath the time of day.
That clip with Ronnie leading them , is fecking awesome. The lungs on the guy
Love this band
The old 'Gillian' typo strikes yet again.
After all these years Ian says... 14 whole years. Now its been nearly 50 years for Ian with Deep Purple, and Sabbath went a near 45 years. Crazy when you think how we used to think of Sabbath and Purple as the old guard so to speak.
They are líke a wine.... Good wine
Gillan thinks:"The next year i'll wrote Knocking on your back door and you will miss the satanic lyrics, babe."
This interviewer, proves two things; 1) there was a heavy connect between English and American youth in certain ways, at least back then,and perhaps some of those from the East, and 2) there's a strong disconnect between her and European roots that don't get it all, but she's there for a purpose. Best for them they didn't take it serious.
It's cool that CBS did this but the reporter is kind of lost here. Kind of like talking cars/shop with you mom. Later!
It is! Except the mom thinks the car engines are satanic...
The idea of Ian Gillan joining Black Sabbath was a rather strange one, but it worked. "Born Again" is rather good album that fans are beginning to appreciate so many years after it's release. It should be remixed and re-released.
Seeing them in earlier years; best thing to take from the interview.
Awesome Sabbath! Version with heavy and big men Ian Gillan and Bev Bevan. Of course Tony and Geez upholding the name and image well. That was 25 years ago!
35
If it was 25 years ago id be 25 again thanks hehe
They show a clip with Dio with Ian sitting right there!! lol
They really have to have patience with some of these interviewers who have no background information nor insight.
I hate when media have someone with NO CLUE about a band to interview them.
Iommi doesnt seem comfortable on camera
Prometheus Rising he was at his worst when it came to cocaine right here. Coke can make you anti social and irratable after alot of use and as an ex coke head I see myself it Tonys body language here
The interviewer is still cool though she's friendly and funny
Thanks for uploading this rare clip. I really wish Geezer and Tony did a better job explaining their point of views and maybe defending themselves a bit. They’re a bit shy though.
Saw Sabbath in 77 on ozzy Osbournes birthday awesome
Wow, I’ve lived with a vhs bootleg of this for over 20 years and like most bootlegs from then it was probably 5th generation with terrible picture and audio quality but I watched it about 100 times. I’ve never seen it like this before, great quality! Lol
Goddamn, I can't believe I'd never seen this before! This is amazing!
Myself witnessed Born again with the stonehenge. I have to admit that show scared the F##k out of me. I believe Gillian was a great shoe in added to Sabbath at that time. To this day that album gives me chills. Awsome job!!! I love the fact that Gezzer and Toni no matter who joins them stay true to the message of evil is bad and
Beware. The only True Sabbath though is with Bill and Ozzy. You cant fix something that is not broken.
Born again was the last Sabbath's masterpiece. After that there has been lots of ups and downs but never that good again.
She is not bad as an interviewer for those times.
wow remember when real rock music was still on network TV! not anymore.
Awesome!!!
Loved when Bev threw in his two cents on the "evil" discussion. Would have loved for him to have brought up something like "You know that evil sounding backwards voice in 'Fire on High'? You're looking at him."
"Of one of your older concerts" ... misses opportunity to show the classic era of the band and instead rolls a promotional clip for a studio track. Given Ozzy's antics at the time, you have to wonder if there was an intentional disconnect here.
Born again is a great album. Ian did some powerful falsettos and screams.
Ahh Tony and Geezer with the hair and mustaches. The best in all of rock! I've been a lifelong fan of Sabbath (the first song I remember hearing was Iron Man at about 4 or 5 years) through all of their iterations. Hopefully in the near future we'll get the remaster/remix of Born Again 🙏👍👏🤘🎸🎶
Tony @ 0:46, w/ an awkward "don't ask me" lol...
"You will still be out there making that audible sound."
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Not been to Sabbath gig sadly, but Motorhead amps go to 11. The ringing after, streuth.
Ha-ha! Motorhead was really great (God rest 'em). Was my favorite band back when I was seventeen years old in 1986. Loved the fusion of heavy rock and hardcore punk. I believe that for a time they held the Guiness Book of World Record highest decibel concert. Coincidentally, Deep Purple with Ian Gillan held that title for a time as well. FYI
Saw Motorhead open for Sabbath at State Theatre in Kalamazoo, MI sometime in the 1990s. Sabbath had Tony Martin on vocals; very good, but not as good as Ozzy/Dio/Gillan. Motorhead were too loud, in my opinion. I want to be able to hear what each instrument is doing.
10:40 Do what thou wilt
Shall be the Whole of the Law.
This could have been a much better interview if the TV host understood who she was talking to. It seems as if she prepped five or six minutes at most. She has no idea who Ian Gillan is or what iconic OTHER band he was in, she has no understanding of history or of the kind of music Sabbath had been playing. She was forever hung up on "evil" because she probably just learned about that a few minutes before going on the air. To make matters worse, during the interview, CBS showed a clip of Sabbath from the Ronnie James Dio days. This whole thing makes you wonder why Sabbath's press agent or PR person didn't properly advance what should have been an important piece of publicity.
Jim Fischer I love Dio but arguably Ian Gillan was a bigger name sat the time than Ronnie was. Or was it because Ian wasn’t that long with Purple at the time.
Jeff E. My point about Gillan was that he was in Purple and the interviewer didn’t know who he was . He wasn’t no Tipper Owens. I’m just wondering at the time was Gillan a forgotten name at the time because this was before mark 2 reunited, and Purple was more about the band and the magic of the band than the individual. Sabbath, there is a debate whether it is Ozzy or Iommi and whoever is with Iommi.
@@salt27dogg Gillan never broke the States . He almost or never performed there while Blackmore was with Rainbow
Jon Blackers you mean when he was just Gillan (the Band)? I’m only 40, I love purple and rainbow and Dio. I wasn’t alive back then . Was Gillan known in USA from Purple? Because at the time before Perfect Strangers he was only in Deep Purple for like four years.
@@salt27doggYeah, the IGB and Gillan years (76-82) I m 53 and missed out the 70's so I know where you re coming from :) MK 3 really was known in America but the sad thing for Gillan was he paved the way with MK 2 and then stepped out of the band just before USA DP MK 2 broke the states. Made/Live In japan really did it gor them, I think they easily could have taken a break and built on that legacy. In august 72 , he resigned. not rethinking that decision. He later on talked (Like he would after the split of 1993)nonsense about his motivations : that the band was not progressing etc. He kept up that story untill 84 when MK2 reformed probably because of the money. He needed that because Gillan although doing well albumwise did not attract enough audiences. In 1972 I guess management was to blame for pushing them too hard, thinking we might as well squueze this orange before their popularity goes away. Without his step we would not have BURN and Stormbringer and Made in Europe and CTTB but it was a big shame. I really love WDWTWA album, heavily underrated by band and others. Although Gillan solo did not have succes in the states the Perfect Strangers tour in 85 sold out bigtime(I read 2nd biggest after Springseen). ALL the MK 2 members were convinced it should be MK 2 to reform. I was thinking so as well but being honest about it : it wasnt like expectations were fullfilled although the reunion years really had great songs, shows, etc. Strangely enough, Gillan(after all the criticism) improved bit by bit after 85 but split and went solo. TOOLBOX (199) is the last album he showed his old feathers. Blackmore and Paicey returned to their old styles around 1990. 1993 was almost perfect, gigwise. . MK3 would have been great around 1985 but back then GH was not in shape and DC was breaking America with the album 87. By then his voice went down the drain. MK2 probably should have reformed around 1980 when Gillan still could sing and Blackmore was not wandering off into strange lands like he did after 84, technically /soundwise speaken. MK 3 could have been a major draw after 1992 because GH sobered up and since then never dissappointed , great albums and shows. As today he is still on a great level and I ll be seeing his "Deep Purple tour" soon. Although by then (1992)DC wasnt in shape anymore. I saw him in 83 and he was perfect. Well, on and on. |So much potential/talent/possible parallel histories.
It’s amazing they get reporters with no clue about the band that Gillian was in Deep Purple & Bev Bevan in ELO but def ask them about black magic & evil doing
I know, it's rediculous!
@@michellemysliwiec2975 why would she know. She dose not look like a person who is into that kind of music
@@mikekeeler6362
That is true. She looked clueless😂😂😂
So funny all you hear about from Ian in these days was what merry lushes they all were while poor Bill struggled to get through the session sober.
Why was the interviewer just pounding the evil aspect?
Twas the time of the satanic panic. It sold news papers back in the day
It sold albums as well! LOL
Its called ignorance, she hasn't done her homework before interviewing
Do you have any more of this Nightwatch episode, or any others?
Sorry, this all I recorded back then on my uncles Beta Max.
Thank you.
Deep Purple ,Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin are still the best after all those years.
I still listen to this album sometimes 35 years on..Def Leppard hates it so I knew it was going to be some heavy stuff...Didnt disappoint..Concert was not so great..Excellent album all the same.
I hate it too! Joe Elliot was correct. Not up to standards.
geeze 💙
Yeahhhh geezer is the best
she never mentions deep purple...lol
"is this just some large joke?" lol what a rude thing to say, that made me laugh
Tony Iommi, que era o dono da banda, quase não fala!
So they show a clip of "Die Young" with Ronnie.... Nice to see they did their homework! (Not!)
She started the whole thing by talking about a new line-up getting together. Then said let's show some of your old stuff for some background. I was expecting Ozzy.
Why didn't they just say it's like horror movies only with loud music? What is so hard to understand about that? And actually Sabbath was never that loud the times I saw them. Only sort of average loud I'd say.
When I saw Black Sabbath in 1994 at the State theater in Detroit, MI. with the Tony Iommi, Tony Martin, Geezer Butler, and Bobby Rodinelli line-up. The concert was in a very small music hall and it was (by far) the loudest concert I've ever heard.
But fast forward to 2006. I saw the group again in London, Ontario Canada when they were known as "Heaven & Hell since Dio was back in the group again. The line-up then was Iommi, Butler, Dio, and Vinny Appice. At this time I guess since Dio was back in the group, and they were drawing bigger audiences again compared to when I saw them in 1994. When I saw them this time they played at the John Labatt hockey arena, a really huge place. I had a horrible seat this time, almost at the complete opposite end of the arena from the stage. And half way across the floor between me and the stage there were about 40 sound, light, and whatever else kind of technicians with all of their equipment. The sound this time was not very good at all, because of the huge size of the building and my seat location. I am glad I got to see this line-up of the band, since I've never seen Dio before at a concert. But I'll take the bare-bones, Loudest concert I've ever been to concert that I saw them at in 1994 in Detroit, over the huge building, huge stage show, but poor sound and visibility of the stage when I saw them again in 2006 in Canada. From online videos that I've seen, Black Sabbath seems to use (for the most part) about the same number of onstage amplifiers during all their concerts, whether it's in a huge concert arena, or the tiny places like the ones they mostly played at the first time I saw them in 1994. I think it would help the sound of they would compensate in the larger places they played at, by maybe adding some extra amplifiers to help improve the sound quality in the bigger places they played in.
Uriah Heep and Kiss were the loudest bands I ever saw
Muddy Waters opening for Eric Clapton.
Surreal
i think it would be really shitty for Ian and Bev to watch former members in a clip to "help the audience remember metal, heavy metal"
like, damn, bold move, Nightwatch
They could have at least used something where they only showed Geezer and Tony and had no singing, something from the Paris show, a solo. They did not use Dio's voice, and only showed The Drummer once so someone was thinking.
But, we're also looking at this from 2022, in 1983 they had limited access to things. Even TV stations. and Sabbath knew they were gong to play it.
I get that 83 was different times but this lady is from the middle ages with her questions. I was offended when she asked if the band is a joke. Have some respect!
Well said boys
Is that robin from howard stern?
saw them nassau 1n 1983 quiet riot opened up so fucking loud
Why not just search RUclips and watch it instead of uploading what's already here?
Ahh, "Mr. Gillian..."
Best lineup
Not
An interesting one, at least. I wish they’d carried on for a couple years more than they did. I’m sure they’d have added some credible music to add to Sabbath’s incredible body of work.
It sucks when they put some clueless people to interview rock musicians!
And playing a video of BS with Dio in the middle of the interview just confirm how clueless these people were!
Are you concerned about your audiences hearing ?.......Pardon ??? 😂😂😂
Gillian :)
Ian fit in because of similar habits! Tony is High AF.. never seen him engage and laugh as much... Maybe they were smitten with the host? It's like they are trying hard not to laugh😅😅😅
Imagine that these men were considered geriatric boring old farts at the time by some. They look so young now
Baby lucifer .🍼😸..good interview. very odd but interesting .Born Again ,that's aged like a fine wine
ITS A LIVING....
Anthony "Riff Master" Frank Iommi
Ian "The Voice Of Silver" Gillan
Terence Michael Butler
Geoffrey James Nicholls
Bev Beven
I love Ian Gillans response to the question of their image . No one else in the band could answer . It was a Politically Correct answer . Ritchie Blackmore hated Gillan , said he couldn't sing . Great clip from the past .
Nonsense. Blackmore said Gillan was "a fantastic singer back in the day." They used to room together. But when Gillan started getting sloshed and forgetting lyrics, Blackmore started getting p-ssed off. They regrouped in 1984 and all was going well. But then they put the worst song in rock history - "Bad Attitude" - as the lead track on the "House of Blue Light" album, it bombed and Gillan became such a lush that he was broomed out of the band. That's when the hatred started really kicking in. They've mended fences in recent years.
@@AlbertEinsteinSpock The only time I ever saw any reference to RB's saying that IG couldn't sing was an interview where he was talking about the direction they were beginning to take, towards a more bluesy sound. I assume this would have been 'round the time of WDWTWA, and IG said something George Harrison-like, "However you want me to sing, I"ll do it." Blackmore's response was that, no, you can't sing like that, and presumably, this was just another log on the fire that prompted IG's resignation letter. At that point, RB and Jon Lord were thinking "Paul Rodgers", and they actually reached out to him. When they started to put the band back together, Glenn Hughes was the first to be recruited, and "We're going after Paul Rodgers" was a major selling point, By the time they talked to Rodgers again, he was busy with Bad Company, and you know the rest. I digress.
Fast forward to Ronnie James Dio's leaving Rainbow, and IG tells the story in his book, about how RB came 'round IG's house one day, wearing his pilgrim hat, and looking to have IG replace Ronnie in Rainbow. I'd have to read it all again, but presumably, there was still hope for their relationship at that point, and that RB had brought in RG as a producer and then bassist makes you think he realized past mistakes. Still, as you mention, by the time of "House of Blue Light", all the old wounds had come open again, and I think it was IG himself who compared that period of time to WDWTWA.
@@QuarrellaDeVil I know. I've read the books, the magazines, etc. Ian has a second, updated autobiography coming out, too. Gillan is an old chum of mine. He told me Blackmore didn't like Woman from Tokyo and didn't like Time to Kill. They both matured over the years, mellowed. I wish Steve Morse no ill will, but if he quits DP over the responsibilities of having to tend to his wife, I would hope Gillan would invite Ritchie to do a one-off jam, just for old time's sake and to see if hatchets can truly be buried. At this point, that looks like a pipe dream.
@@AlbertEinsteinSpock I’ve heard worse than Bad Attitude. Even within Deep Purple itself lol. I like it though should I be embarrassed ….
I hate it. It doesn't sound like Deep Purple. They were try to sound 1980s-ish instead of being true to what they are. The single worst first song for Purple on an album. It was beyond disappointing and, frankly, doomed the band. No one wanted to hear anything about Purple after that disgraceful opening track. What an abomination. It was their death knell. 'Mad Dog' should have been the lead track.@@Mike-aka747
Lmao Tony is so annoyed with her asking the same old "What is Heavy Metal?/Why is the band so evil?" questions that he had to deal with since 1970. Felisha was being flippant with some of her remarks: "You guys dont look evil, your just regular guys trying to put on an image". He patronizing remark at the end was uncalled for though.
the midlands accent...
Do you mind disturbing the priest?
GillIan?
It's like she is interviewing space men, she has all the notes but zero knowledge of the "culture", it's like a HeavyMetal (The adult illustrated fantasy magazine) version of a Heavy Metal show to her, Mad Max type people.
Ian is a real front man, he took control of that interview, Ozzy would not be able to sustain a dialogue for that long. These guys are like 35 here, maybe younger. The Future still uncertain. Another Album would have been nice.
She did okay with the interview,but they needed someone more in tune with their type of music, and who appreciates their music
To loud , never
What!!!!!!!
Lol, what a mess! The interviewer wanted a big ol' slice of Tony. She couldn't keep her hands to herself. Tony's just coked up and giggling the whole time. Bev looks like a fish out of water and Ian looks like he's wondering why the hell he's there at all. Sabbath really was a trainwreck during the Born Again era.
That is one beautiful woman
Eurk! You are a Kalergist.
She has no clue
She appears intoxicated too, the whole thing is quite awkward. Back then, it's like American television couldn't connect the dots; four shy and nice behaving blokes playing this heavy music, they were expecting raving lunatics.
It's like watching the female sportscaster who you can tell has little/no interest in the sports she is covering.
@@TheTVisions It had nothing to do with American television. A lot of good American hosts and interviews back then. This lady just isn't a hard-rocker; she tried to be friendly, but couldn't get off the evil theme because she didn't do any homework.
1:40 Ian Gillan was the first Jesus Christ
Wasnt geezer with the original group?
Yeah he was
Yes
Geezer was on the first 11 albums
saw this line up and as an ardent Sabbath Fan this was the worse night of my life. Reading Rock Festval
Gillan wasn't a good fit for the band...... those Tony Martin albums are much better
Gillan was an incredible singer back in the day, but said himself that is his vocal style wasn't a good fit. The "Born Again" album sounded great (other than the poor mixing), and they had a blast on that tour. Tony and Ian are best friends to this very day. But Gillan knew he wasn't the right fit long-term.
GEEZER doesn't give a fuck if he was the original or not LOL!!!
The lady that interviewing wasn't au fait with the subject matter. And she sounds a little tipsy. I like her. Sabbath were kindly gentlemen tnough
Geezer looks like that dude from the Princess Bride!