Top 7 BEST ADV Bikes for 2021 (BMW GS Owners Beware)
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@Yammie Noob why no mention of the Vstrom?
Where is your USED ADV video...can't find it. Someting about like 2016 -2019 used ADV bikes..??
When you say "can you imagine the repair bill when you dump it....." V4S - I can not only imagine but I recall like it was yesterday the hours I spent laid out on Mt. Charleston praying MCFD's ambulances could find me before I had to "hero" my ass to the road. Fun times - v4srepairbills4life# oh and dont buy the warranty - 170 horsey ponies on the dirt is guaranteed back problems and campfire stories
Surprised you didn’t smack some pirelli scorpions on a busa and named it #1
Missed opportunity for Yammie Noob Incorporated.
There is a Ducati panigale with some that is #1 for sure 😂😂
A reasonable solution. It's the same a a KTM super adventure really
Idk, my vtr1000 on bald Road3's hold its own lol
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Best ADV video without BMW GS saids alot about the content of this channel, can’t trust the content.
Misleading title, you can't have a list of BEST ADV without a GS. Not a fan of GS, but give credit where it's due. I can agree it not being number 1 with all the new advancement in other ADV's; but to be completely left off gives less credibility to your list. But it's your channel, do what you want, cheers!
Meh. Maybe this channel's not big with twice divorced dentists...
Not to mention including the Ducati, but stating it shouldn't go off road???
Also left out the tiger and vstrom. Big oof.
@@tsubadaikhan6332 More likely he had a harder time flatfooting the GSA.
I think he didn't wanna include it because "everyone" knows about it. I still feel it's my number 1 option for an adv, though unfortunately out of my price range :(
Also, I don't get where this twice divorced dentist bs comes from, I'm a young guy just getting into riding and I hope an r1250gs will be in the books for me at some point before I'm 40
1. BMW R1200gs
2. KTM 790 R
3. TRIUMPH TIGER 900 RALLY
4. YAMAHA TENERE 700
5. HONDA AFRICA TWIN
6. BMW 850GS
7. KTM 690R/ HUSKVARNA 701
The seven at every adv event for a good reason.
Edit: Not in any particular order.
I'd swap 5 and 6 with 2 and 3, but that's just me, Overall that list is solid.
The BMW 1250 GS ADVenture Is the king, and need it's own list. No other bike can touch it. If you think about BMW 850 GS. You can just as well get the 1250 (or 1200 if you get a little older bike) They don't fell any more heavy. And the 850 GS is already a very heavy bike. So why don't get the best handling big bike. If you want a light ADV, get a CRF300 or any of the other small bikes that almost every one can take on a single track. If HD get the dirt glide a face lift, so it looks more like a nice bike. They can have a chance. How it look now, I would not have used it, even if I got it for free. Sold it and got a real bike instead… Like the 1250 GS ADV.
Tenere at 4 th that' no right
You are missing T7 or T1200.
Classic Yam doing his best to ignore BMW motorcycles even in a category they’ve dominated for years.
And also ignoring the bike that has thoroughly dethroned the GS this year.
@@thorhansen5462 which bike is that? (Serious question not smartass remark).
@@michiganmoto7687 In my humble opinion the 2021 KTM 1290 SAS spanks the GS.
@@thorhansen5462 I hear you, but GS sales numbers is twice has much as KTM 1290, it's a beast make to mistake about.
@@lpete531 wait until the 1290 has been out for 12 months
I guess you didn't want to talk about the one everyone knows, but I'd still pick a r1200/1250gs over any of these. It's not the best on paper, but from my research, it's still faster and more practical for off-road than the Pan-Am.
Also, I'm surprised the KLR650 didn't come up as a budget option. It may be sold more as a dual-sport but they're easily an entry adv with some of the add-ons you can get, especially now that ABS is available on it.
I was wondering as much... maybe not on the list but an "honorable mention" would be in order.
the klr is the perfect adv bike: simple, indestructible, cheap, it got the torque of a truck and it's not terrible offroad
Also, why the XC?! The XE kills the XC off road. I’m with you. I’d take the GS. Best warranty, proven drivetrain. To the point where I’m buying a GSA. Shaft drive - not checking chain tension on a long trip, and the GSA easily has the best fuel range.
By calling it the "Dirt glide", Yammy managed to piss off both the Harley purists by comparing with the existing lineup and the people who want something new from HD, for the same reason. Truly a masterful maneuver that only the finest provocateurs could hope to accomplish.🧐
Got to love Yammie's sense of getting noticed. He will have both parties tuning into his content just to keep him strait. After all sometimes bad advertisement is better than no advertisement.
I've got a Dirt Glide. We all call them Dirt Glides lol
Bro i laughed so hard at dirt glide
I like it! Maybe Harley should have used that name.
He’s always crap talking Harley.
I love this channel, but it’s very obvious ADV isn’t their area.
True
very true. also voiceover not their thing either
Or baggers. He is always down on Harley, especially baggers
I’m riding a 2021 Suzuki DR650 and probably having just as much fun as anyone with these bikes on the list for so so much cheaper! Go the mighty DR
This CC craze must stop. Give me a well balanced 650 ADV and we are all set.
agreed, my XR650L has been reliable, inexpensive and capable ADV tractor... I mean, motorcycle.
Suzi V-Strom 650 is still solid. If you only go on the street, the Tracer 700 (outside NA) is unbeatable. Or the dreaded Versys. ;)
The Yamaha T7, the upcoming KLR650 are all excellent choices
@@theodoreberbach9562 the T7 is amazing for the price. I got to ride a friend's. But I wouldn't trade my Africa for anything.
@@timhamilton5699 a very small channel ChrisvonS recently uploaded a video of three guys riding XR650L through the Sahara. It's old footage but it's worth looking for if you own an XRL.
You picked the Harley over the GS and that's when I stopped watching you obv6 know nothing about ADV bikes and shouldn't pretend like you do.
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Cant wait for the turbo BUSA BABY
I’ve owned many ADV bikes and the 2020+ Africa Twin is all around my favorite bike. It also takes a beating and just keeps going.
If Honda ever makes a lightweight potent powerplant like the KTM 890 and can shed a few more pounds from the AT, it would be near perfect for me.
Like a Teneré 700 only by Honda. Think the same.
I am thinking a new African Twin is my next bike. Add that to the Triumph Rocket 3 I am tooling around on. I want something I can press down the freeway, hit some backroaads and take down a long dirt road out to an abandoned mining town. An ADV will be just the ticket.
Basically we need something between the CB500X and the AT
Two years later and you now have the option of the Transalp 750. Did they hear your request??
The ones I like best and didn't even make the list are the V-Strom 650 and 1050. This is Yam's list though and I have to respect that.
It always disappoints me how much the v-Strom series gets overlooked.
@@MaxwellAerialPhotography yes me too. I've yet to see a bad review on the V-Strom and would chose it over many of those choices that made the list.
I feel like part of the problem is branding. They like to sell it as a touring that can adventure as opposed to the other way around.
My wee is so comfortable touring 2up and hasn't let me down on dirt or gravel. I am pretty tame with my "off roading" but I like the option when camping cross country
650 Vstrom all the way. Though, no, no, no that Honda is a monster but I suppose if you're a big dude. Honda's are nice.
I love my 650, but its forgettable because it's pretty boring. Hasn't changed much in 10 years, and not the best off road or on road. But I picked it up used for cheap, repairs are easy, and the after market is great. But it is kinda a Camry of adv.
Dismissed the BMW GS 👎Didn't even mention the Triumph Tiger 👎Your credibility on this subject is wearing thin when you put a Harley on a pedestal , especially when it is so new that real world community miles haven't proven anything yet because who has one ?
Specially when I look at a very cheap and good (less than 20k km and 4000 E) Triunmph Tiger 800 :))
Thanks for watching - be sure to drop a like too
Personally, I'm pretty tired of the GS and Tiger reviews... i like this list.
@@yammienoob Will do sir :D.
Yeah, he’s a sport squid not a enduro guy. Give him a break if he has no clue about gs linage. He’ll figure it out when he rides one.
I lost it at "Harley-Davidson Dirt Glide..." didn't see that one coming. 😂
Shadetree surgeon vibes 😂 He named that bike dirt glide.
I assumed paid review at when I seen it; a single rotar adv bike with 150bhp.. yep this guy has jokes.
Puts a Triumph on the list. Its not the Tiger. *sad motorcycle noises*
Also, where is the GSX 250?
As a Tiger 1200 owner - it was sad to not see it :(
I feel like the Tiger 900 should have gotten at least an honorable mention.
Adv bikes are just awesome
I just rode ktm adv250 few days ago
And the bike felt better in every possible way . These make a lot of sense for college going student , where everybody thinks it's only for off-road.
Great video! A good video would be comparing the old school xr650l and dr650. For my money, they’ve got a solid place in this category, esp. for round the world types.
And the v-strom gets no love, again
it's a 20 year old bike and suzuki is sticking with a tried and true recipe. i love mine and im happy with the purchase (2020 650XT-A), but its so boringly reliable and relatively low tech that any video should just end with "and somewhere between 1 and 7 fits something from the vstrom series, as always, depending on what you want to do with it. "
@@SMWegge boringly reliable.. Yeah because you really want to risk getting stranded on a trail without cell signal miles off road..
@@extaza555 I meant more so in the riding characteristics. It's such a mellow bike. But to your point, there's definitely a reason why I bought one 😉
Too boringly good 😂
The Versys-X 300 deserved to be on the list
No actually nevermind, I'm still pissed at Kawasaki because they refuse to put the Ninja 400 engine in it
I wish they had a versys 400. I would really be thinking about it as a first bike if they did
Don't you think it would be way way way way way way too fast with that motor though?
@@jtec99 It would definitely be getting close to turbo busa territory at that point
@@brandonloukota4760 I'd be thinking about it as a second bike if they did!
it does not need the 400, the 300 is fine and it should still be on the list for its dollar to smile factor.
Incorrect about triumph scrambleros. The XE is the off-road oriented version. The XC is the more moderate road oriented with more standard suspension and short ground clearance. Love my XE 😁
The Triumphs are reversed. The XC model is the lower and street oriented version. The XE model has more clearance and is represented as more off road worthy. I own the XC and I would suggest both are quite capable of both. I've taken long trips on my XC with great comfort.
Yep, beat me to it. The XE is Dirty McDirtFace.
I'll take the Yamaha Super Tenere 1200.The Pan Am is cool,but I'd opt for shaft drive.
Hilarious! It’s nice to see my CRF1000l included in the lineup. Its really heavy, tall, and nicely overpowered. I love falling down.
My first bike was a Honda Crf250l Rally that I bought new in 2018. I loved it and I could almost go any where my dirt bike bros could. Im glad you mentioned it! Its a great bike on and off road. I sold it this year and bought my dream bike a 2021 Honda CB650R.
You know, I looked into most of these especially the Pan Am, KTM, and African Twin. In the end I ordered a 2022 BMW 1250 GSA as it just had the better all around specs that worked for me. Currently on the ship heading to New Jersey. The vid showed some good adv bikes but failed to explain why the BMW was dethroned by any of them. It is great seeing a lot of variety of choices out there which made it crazy going through so many written and video reviews before finally deciding on my choice.
bmw was dethroned because he hates bmws and he knows jack shit about bikes. listen to the points he makes about these bikes and how som of them don't even sound to be good offroad. he allso thinks that the boxer engine on the bmw bikes scrape the ground when you lean them
@@rampage3337 good for him
..anything bmw sucks
I love how guys like this imply BMW is dethroned and provide no content on them whatsoever. I say if you've got the stance, build and budget for the R1250, go for it, you'll always be happier you did. Clearly, the trend continues for guys that want to bash on BMW with no real weight to their argument.
Great list Yam and as an fellow ADV bro i think you nailed it.
I too am hoping HD succeeds with the dirt glide. If it were on the market last year i probably would own one and not the Africa Twin I own today. Its the bike i have been waiting for an American manufacturer to build and its finally here....
As a former Multistrada owner i can confirm you do NOT want to drop it, not unless you like paying insurance deductibles and have your rates go up, since the parts are extremely expensive. It is a great road touring bike tho, probably the best on this list.
Surprised to not see the Tiger 900 in there. It's a pretty good bike
Any tiger would have been great to see. My Tiger 800 is great long distance, and will keeps up with my buddies KLR offroad
Pretty good? That's an understatement.
Don’t feel bad, they didn’t even put the Moto Guzzi v85tt on the list either. Pretty pathetic
@HatedJared - Your Tiger 800 just “keeps up” with your buddy’s KLR off-road!? Your 800 Tiger should be leaving your buddy’s KLR in the dust!
I just bought a GS1250 and I’m in love 🥰
I don't know if its the alcohol talking but that was brilliant , one of your best , heaps of laughs
Honda CRF300L Rally is the giant slayer. The little bike from Honda really is that little gem for the real 'adventure rider'. Sure its not fast, but it's not meant to be. It'll get you where you want to go 24/7/365 without fuss or bother. It's for the rider that just knows...
The small screen on the Africa Twin is meant to be used when you use the big screen for navigation with Android auto or Apple car play...
Yeah it's the only bike that has a feature like that 😂
The fork in the road was such a good analogy
I was impressed with the dirt glide. It has some nice little features that surprised me. I have a demo scheduled Wednesday. I'm not even a Harley guy but it looked pretty cool to me.
But then you saw the price and the competition.
@@rubadubdubb I dunno, the self adjusting valves are a plus. This thing is a lot of fun to ride. That's all I care about tbh. I did a demo today and really enjoyed it.
@@FixinToFish Bought one, rode 1000 miles first week! amazing bike!
@@johnnytrammell9016 Really enjoyed my test ride. I want one!
I'm impressed with the features but after owning a couple Harley's I want to see if the bike is reliable before I consider buying one. I've had multiple GS and GSA's and a XR650 that have been really solid but the Harley's and KTM's (MX mostly)... Not so much.
Walked in Seminole Harley-Davidson, called it a Dirt Glide. Everyone laughed.
"honda needs to do something in the 400cc range" you mean like the 473cc Cb500x? that one clearly got missed. I know by comparison it is street oriented, but you had a multistrada in this list too.
Whats wrong with the 450L ? With a few simple mods its very versatile and has a lot of power.
@@jeromesweet5047 it’s way over priced, maintenance cycles are horrible, and it would be terrible for long range adv riding. IMO.
@@michiganmoto7687 true it does kinda suck on any trip longer that a couple hours.
It took until this video to realize how cool it is to be sponsored by Progressive. Congrats, Yammie
The beauty of the basic Africa Twin (new model) for you lot is that it's around 20k for us down in the Netherlands
An ADV list with no GS in it. haha. Incredible. literally.
Just shared this with my Dad since he seems set on a Super Tenere.
Very nice wordsmithing, a pleasure to hear
Appreciate your videos very much, an enlightened big brain boy here. What do you think of CF moto more specifically the 800MT?
Honda also has the ADV scooter option, if you want to go minor off road, but still want to zip around town. The ADV150 is an excellent option if you are into scooters, but still want to hit a few small trails. I own one, and highly recommend it.
I do some serious weekly mileage on my CRF300 Rally and it is much more refined than you might think. 75mph all day and comfortable with it. 83.2 mpg at that speed and brilliant in City traffic too. Most remote dirt roads will not allow you to put the power down on the bigger bikes. Remember, those horrendous adventure roads are the daily commute for locals and tackled on Honda step-throughs lol.
Itchy Boots Approved
Yam must hit the casino's quite often as a lot of his "Top" Series are 7's
What are your thoughts on the Husky Norden 901? I’m holding out after falling in love with my Svartpilen and 701 supermoto.
Why the triumph scrambler instead of the tiger??
love how that progressive coverage appropriates Canada into the US.
100% Yammie! Genuine article with no artificial flavors!
I as a honda boi now feel validation, thank you papa yam.....thank you
This video needs honourable and dishonourable mentions sections just for the CB500X and Versys X 300 repectively
Yea I think the CB500X is a better choice than the CRF300L Rally for smaller ADV. If we're looking at the more offroad oriented ADVs from Honda then I think the next step down from Africa Twin would be the XR 650 not the CRF300L Rally.
Don’t know what that scrambler is doing on the list but the new Tiger 850 Sport is pretty sweet for those who don’t need all the goodies from the 900.
Also never talked about in exciting circles but always a staple (and probably what most people actually need) is the WeeStrom.
For those doing 80-99% highway the VStrom 650 is about as practical and comfortable as it gets, for a good price, too.
The T7 would be my bet, for the closer to (or aspiring to be) 50/50 off the path rider.
The Tiger would be my wild card if one test rode those two and didn’t like it or wanted a lower seat height, etc.
That was funny. I wish you would’ve said something about the Honda CB 500x
Thanks for the video. What I saw was you proving the competitors are paying very close attention to the 1250 GS. I want Harley to succeed but they just keep letting me down. Do they even do market research? I hope they get better.
Sold my Ducati Multi Enduro for the Pan Am. I will ALWAYS love the Multi, but the next one will be just for road. I'll get a really pretty one. My Pan Am is the wash and wear bike.
Love the Harley PanAm. Seriously might consider adding this next!
Would like to see your guys thoughts on the new GSX S750 :)
Took my Multistrada Enduro Pro to Hidden Falls Saturday. It was awesome
Opinion Best ADV List
Drz 400s (For Minimal highway Riders)
Tenere 700 (best all around)
ktm 890r (More powerful/less reliable tenere)
Africa Twin (If you're pulling more highway miles)
Everything above 1000cc is too big if your actually going off road, anything below 400cc cant do highway.
As far as the ADV market is each size should get its chance. Since when do you compare a Ninja 300 to an R1 yet you did in this class of bikes. Maybe Spike with his back country roots can do a better job of telling us what steed to choose for what.
I just wanted more scramblers on this list! 😎 desert sled? Fantic Caballero?
Those video endings, where Yam suggests to click next one - make some more already!
I am posting this comment specifically for Yammie Noob to see, in the span of two weeks I signed up to get motorcycle driving classes and get my license, I bought all of the required motorcycle gear to not be a scrub (helmet, coat, boots, gloves, pants, ear plugs, etc.) I bought a brand new Honda CRF300l Rally and my ONLY desire is to get this next month of learning done ASAP so I can go get lost in the woods and camp out there. ADV life = better than real life xD
I've actually ridden the Pan America and the adaptive ride height you legitimately like don't feel it when you come to a stop it's like so gradual it's really interesting. The styling is pretty out there but after writing it I come to enjoy it quite a bit but that's just my personal opinion.
I can’t believe the Vstrom didn’t even get a mention!!!! 😱🤯
This just made me realize that Harley made the new sportster 500+ lbs with 150 hp with 1 front rotor...... this is gonna end well.
Didn't they de-tune it to 120 hp in the sportster?
Yes it’s detuned 120 hp and it’s sporting a 320mm monoblock Brembo setup. Bike has like 30 degrees of lean angle so I doubt you could go crazy enough to overheat the thing. Front brake setup is probably more than enough.
@@darkiee69 they threw a different cam in it to raise the torque.
I drive motorcycles for 39 years, I'm a bike mechanic, and have a lot of different bikes thru the years, and the best by far is the 1250 BMW GS and GSA
I think the triumph 1200 XE is more ADV than the XC.
XE Better ground clearance, front Suspension 47 mm and 250 mm travel
XC Front suspension 45 mm and 200 mm travel
Ignoring the GS in this vid is like making a list of the best bands of the 1960s and ignoring the Beetles cause you don't like them.
DIRT GLIDE - Love it!
How do you feel about chain on the Dirt Glide ? Why not shaft ? please advice
Hilariously informative.
this video has to have the most versions of the word "torque" iv ever heard
Any chance of doing a list of the best adventure "touring" motorcycles. For us non dirt drivers that love ADV bikes for its abilities to crunch long miles in the twistes.
I currently own a 21 AT,DCT. And it's a great bike. I did test ride the HD,PA. and I really liked it to.
I'd just have to give the HD a couple of year's for a all new bike.
To see how reliable it will be. Since HD has had problems with making there old air cooled V twin engines that have been around for ever.
In my opinion unless you have extensive off road experience on real dirt bike's and are in very good physical condition don't think riding a 550 lbs ADV off road is going to be a lot of fun. But everyone has there own idea of fun. I do admire the videos with the expert rider's jumping and sliding the big ADV bike's.
Nice line up, I"m just disappointed you didn't troll one other vlogger, you know who I'm talking about 😂
I was invited to Milwaukee to demo ride the new Harley. At first I was impressed but the rust covered chain and the clunking trans gave something to consider. But I decided to investigate ownership, found one in Lapeer, MI, at Ray C’S. IF YOU HAVE 25000+ then this bike might be for you. Not for me, asking above msrp should be against the law for bikes and cars, greed is never a good thing.
Yams, I have ridden a Dirtbike once, and now I must become Ewen. Following in Papa’s footsteps (and my Uncle and his ‘03 R1200)
Yammie I think you have backwards, the XE is the more dirt focused Scrambler, not the XC.
Agree XE is dirty McDirtface.
Yammie doesn’t take the time to learn what the hell he’s talking about.
I'm digging that dirt glide
Hey there, i am thinking about riding a motorcycle. But is it a good idea to wear a dirtbike helmet on a 125 ?
Klr 650? Triumph tiger rally pro?
Yammie If your house was on fire and you had to pick between a bike to escape what would you pick?
Please do more off-road content!
TBH in the UK the top 2 most selling motorcycles are 2 types of 1250 GS'
Missed the cutting edge benefit of the 890/790R over others n this list. Its superior Xplor Suspension.
Anytime you mention Shadetree you make me a happy viewer!
Nailed it man.. couldn't agree more with everything you said.
A question: why do we consider CRF250/300 rally an adventure bike and not a dual sport? Is it cause it has a nav tower?
How come there is not real official definiton/distintion between advs and dual sports?
My next video will be precisely about that but i dont really found a final answer
Please also mention the lack of sub 136kg adventurized dual sports with 15 liters in the tank offered by any of the manufacturers. Huge hole in the market here for something with 40hp at the rear wheel. Lots of performance dual sports hit this weight goal but none come with 15 liter tanks, comfortable seats or long maintenance intervals. The aftermarket is making a lot of money selling seats and tanks for 450L's and EXC's.
@@mikeisland7382 although i agree with you (a lot), i'd say the world lacks sub 140kg adventurized small dual sports (totally gonna use that name in the future) but also sub 170kg adventurized medium/big dual sports. The KTM690/701 is all we got and they dont really make the cut (or at least they dont give us a big enough choice).
Although i love a good old "DRZ" kind of bike, my heart usually goes to the "600" category... My dream would be a propper sub 170kg twin cilinder (basically a cb500x engine on a crf250 frame :D)
@@OFFroadOFFcourse After riding a modded 450L for a few years now it makes me want to go even lighter. Keep up the great content.
I’m late to the show but what’s your opinion on the BMW 310 GS?
When you say; 'Admittedly the HD is more an acquired taste', do you mean it's downright ugly? Because it is....
I wanted to buy an SV650 but now I`m honestly considering a V-strom 650 because I sit SOOOO much more comfortable on the latter...
From another Alex do it i had the 3rd gen sv until I had a car accident but it was awesome but I'd imagine the vstrom would be more comfortable
Thanks dude for your channel and progressive. I have them as car insurance. Looking for buy bike. I use to ride mopeds pro snowmobile and quadrocikle your chance is amazing. I am waiting for KLR 2022 can you revuid if you understand that part. Thanks bro
Best one for offroad is re himalayan. It's cheap it's capable. Just ride it once and u will change ur opinion on re.
I think that's the best entry level ADV. I'm looking at them. Critics have pointed out they're a little heavy off-road.
@@williamellison3382 My roommate has one. I'm 6'4" 220 lbs and been riding dirt bikes my whole life. I think the RE feels smaller and slower than a 250 dirt bike. Good for a serious newbie but for a bigger guy or someone with a bit of background experience, go with something like the KLR 650 over the RE
The only downside of the AT are the eyes ? I think this design looks decent. This List is not complete without a RE himalayan..
A multistrada v4 for the road exists, it is called the S 1000XR, basically a reliable 4 cilinder adventure bike with 17 inch wheels
Only think missing from the s1000xr is 200bhp+ otherwise a near perfect offering
Desire says Africa Twin, Bank account says Himalayan.
should i avoid v twin bike ? for vibration issues ?
Grew up dirt biking and just grew out of my 500. Time for a Tenere 700