+Jacob Turner Windows 7 is the best windows to date, That would apply to windows Vista, 98, 8, ME. oh and if you're thinking about windows 10 then you can say good-bye for any privacy you had.
+Kinosaurus Windows 8 is actually really good. And it is much faster than Windows 7 too. The only thing with Windows 8 is that people got pissy about its Metro interface, which is actually quite easy to get used to, that's it. In my opinion stock Windows 8 (not 8.1) is superior to both Windows 7 and to Windows 8.1, which is where some (very few) compatibility problems appeared. So yeah, Win 8 doesn't belong in this list, at all. In my opinion, of course :3
Nightquaker i Had 8, 8.1 10, Windows 7 Has the cleanest operation, no MS Bloatware, "performance of 8?" we're dealing with 5% Maximum performance port over with the newer OS. Not a deal breaker in any way. Grid was an awful idea, and it's pretty much a fact as they dropped the metro UI in Win 10. Just because you like 8 doesn't mean it's good, it's the worst windows since vista.
Kinosaurus Let me counter-argument you on that one. Just because you don't like Win 8, doesn't mean it's the worst one since Vista. Got it? By better performance on 8, I also meant faster boot times. Especially on mid-end systems and/or hard drives. Not everybody has an SSD, nor does everybody want one. About Metro UI? Nah, it's still just an opinion. Sure, it might be not as functional as the traditional start menu, but it's not as bad as people describe it. And after some time of use, it's actually pretty much as good as normal start menu. It's different, sure, but that doesn't mean that it's bad. Hell, perhaps it was just too different for lots of people. What MS bloatware are we talking about? With automatic updates disabled, mind you. The Metro apps? You can delete the folder on the system drive easily to disable them.
My mother was a beta tester for some of the earliest versions of Windows back in the 80s through the company she worked for and they found it incredibly annoying to get used to not having to type the exact location on the hard drive where the file was with every function you used and they kept losing files because Windows would save them in funny directories until they figured out to make the default folders with obvious names like "My Documents".
Awesome! Exactly what I was looking for! You are amazing! This was the first pc I interact with, because in 1993 I worked at Sam's and we have to take it out of the box for display, so we started playing with it. For me it didn't look like it was built on 1986, but rather 2020!
We got the 386 back then thanks to a pc project on my parents work. Back then they said "The 386 is so advanced you won't need to buy a new pc ever!" I think it wasn't that long after that the 486 came out xD We had this one for a long long time. My parents didn't see any point in buying a new pc while this one worked fine.....even though the games that where released couldn't play on our computer anymore. We had one upgrade when my neighbour was about to trow away his cd rom drive. I think we where one of the few people who actualy had a cd rom drive in our 386 xD mostly cause other people already upgraded to pentium 1 and such. Great times though, really miss those days when games left way more to the imagination. I could really dream away with the game..these days games are way to beautiful so not leaving much to the imagination, or maybe it just seemed better cause i was a child back then. We gave it to my aunt and uncle when we (finally!) upgraded to a pentium 2 400 mhz with a voodoo 2 3dfx. Man that one was badass too....finally i could make my friends jealous cause Need for Speed 2 special edition had nifty effects if you had a 3dfx card. The 386 eventually died when the battery was depleted..i didn't know there was one inside it, but appearantly on the motherboard or something there was one. But it served for a long long time.
Hi there, just wanted to say thanks for this great vid, I am in the process of building my own old DOS based PC for playing old games and found this vid really useful, thanks again mate.
Excellent video! It really took me back. Mind you, my first pc had an 8088 processor that ran at 4.77 mHz. No HD, just one 5 1/4" floppy. Keep up the great vids on vintage machines!
I had two of these NCR 386 SX from 1989, one for parts, and the other still running. Still have the memory from the NCR 386 SX ! Awesome old machines for it's days. The low formatting process was cool also. I was just 24 years back in them days of 1989 ! Everyone in High School wanted me to take computer class, but I never did, because I was waiting for something better then floppies to come out in the future. I still use floppies even in my new computers, because I still like them the best compared to USB or Flash drives ! Cd Roms & DVDs are awesome ! I endup throwing the older larger floppies out when I moved my "69" computers twin in two years ! I just restored a 2006 hp pavilion a1324n since my HP Labtop DUO Core went up missing from a thief I left in my house by herself well I went out grocery shopping ! That was a big mistake on my part. I will never place trust in anyone any more ! Goodnight LGR !
My local Bank of America used to use those same exact NCR 386SX computers as their teller terminals until about 5 or 6 years ago, connected to a Windows NT 4.0 network server. They've since upgraded all the computers, but the terminals still run in text mode.
Dude, I still remember sitting at my friend's place, loading the next game while listening to this loud, nailing harddrive sound. Brought back some memories, thanks for sharing! :) Greetings from Germany :)
Wow, this looks grainy compared to your regular videos. Did RUclips downscale it on me? 480p? That's the top resolution? What the... oh, hey wait. This was uploaded almost a decade ago! My goodness, and this thing was vintage even *then*! And it would have blown the doors off of my first two PCs, not even counting my pre-PC computers. How time flies!
back in 1998 when I was shown the first computer to my family, it was a windows 95. I am using Virtualbox to test out MS-DOS 6.22 right now. Amazing videos 'phreakindee'.
The IBM PS/2 is what I'm referring to, which was an influential range of PCs. Specifically, I was referring to machines like the the PS/2 35SX in this case.
@harshbarj thanks for that info, I must have been thinking of the 486DX/SX series.. always good to have the facts straight, thanks for cearing that up :-)
I have watched nearly all newer LGR videos and so I started to look them from the start :D Jokes, all this 286-386 stuff, the games, I just love it. I grew up with IBM AT, 286/8, MDA (later HGC&CGA), HD 5,25" (later 40Mb hard drive), black-yellow 12" screen and 640k RAM. End times of this 286 in 1992 it had VGA and Soundblaster compatible soundcard. Damn I played Wolfenstein 3D with it! Then I got 386SX/33... 486SX/25... 486DX2/66 (just swapped processor) and then I got into overclocking. This 486 went 80MHz with no problems, and even 90MHz but then it was little unstable. But when it worked, Duke Dukem 3D just flew at 320x400 resolution and my Pentium 60MHz friends were pissed off :D :D
Awesome video. And videos. I'm a sucker for old PCs and old PC advertisements. First PC I used was an old NEC Ready, in '95-'96. It had a very interesting program on it called "Merlin's Tour" that basically was a video about what your PC could do and how to do simple tasks with it like changing the wallpaper and such. I haven't been able to find any info on the program for years, and I haven't found a video of the program, which I'd love to see. Anyways, your videos are pretty awesome.
It's the same base architecture, but unrelated in the sense that it's from a later generation. This is a low end 386, they actually went up to 40MHz. In fact, the CPU to succeed the 386 (the 486) also went up to 100MHz. The Cx5x86 was there to fill the gap between the 486 and the 586, called the Pentium. They actually went up to 120 and even 133MHz! CPUs have only gotten exponentially faster since.
Dude, this was an awesome video. My first computer after my Vic20 was a 386sx 16MHz machine, with a 52 meg HD and a 1 meg chip of RAM. I used to love Commander Keen and Test Drive 3.. Death Track and Stunts were good too.
Ah I remember the noisy hard drives when I was a kid. I had a PC clone that my dad bought at Radio Shack. Played mostly educational games. Loved Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego. Also enjoyed Conquest of the Longbow and Conquest of Camelot. Good times. Thank you for the videos.
Awesome video. I remember both of those systems and the games - loved commander Keen! To be technical, though, the 80286 was the real step up and the 80386sx was mostly a marketing ploy. I kindof wish I kept some of those old systems... The IBM XT was sold on a garage sale a long, long time ago for $20.
@TheIntolerantAtheist If you want to get technical it actually was created in 1985... so if anything, it's older still! The first production model of the 386 was introduced in June 1986.
Ohhh man...that hard drive sound. I miss that. My first windows computer was an Am386 DX 25 that hardly ran doom through its ET4000. I want one again so bad. Biggest PC beep speaker I've ever seen in one, too, at four inches.
@3ytc Agreed, they can be a serious pain, especially back when these were still your everyday computer for work/school/play. I can't tell you much how I hated DOS and everything about the PC for quite some time. But now that I can relive those days at my leisure (the good parts at least) with real machines for very little cash, it's quite fun in appropriate doses. Fun to collect the software boxes and stuff as well.
Dude! You got an IBM Model M keyboard. Respect! They cost a hell of a lot nowadays. I've used mine on and off for about a decade now. Pure quality! (The IBM PS/2 is resting at my parents place, but its' 20 kg monitor is no longer with us)
Thanks! And yes they have. I read an article a few weeks ago online (published July 2000), that said since the 1ghz processor was making it's debut, 'Moore's Law" said that the number of transistors would double every year, and they predicted a 128ghz Processor by 2011. Early 2012, the world record is 8.43ghz haha
No. The PS/2 is what I'm referring to, which was an influential range of IBM PCs. Specifically, I was referring to machines like the the PS/2 35SX in this case.
Big black disks o.O You seem super excited about this machine LOL I would have loved to have this back in the day! That pogostick game looks fun :D Another AMAZING review! AMAZING!!!
Back in the day one of the kids in my neighborhood has a 386 that we played games on. Not only did it sound like a refrigerator on its last legs when you started it up, it also gave off a foul smell like burning copper or something. This is why computers from back in the day are better than the ones we have now: the new ones don't even smell like anything.
I was referring to PS/2 machines like the 35SX in this case, which is quite similar to this NCR Comten. Also, there were other NCR machines using the same chassis as mine that used the PS/2 microchannel architecture that the other PS/2s used. So I don't think it's too strange to call it a PS/2 clone (of sorts) as these cloned more than just PS/2 ports from the IBM machines.
@phreakindee I´m also not completely satisfied with emulation, but I use it alot since I´m not able to aford a lot of those old systens, especially here in Brazil, where everything costs an eye and a ball. I mean, I could easily buy some old 486 or P2 or p3 for a very low price here, but the rare stuff, no way. We would probably need to import it. I really like your channel and I think you´re one of the best reviewers in YT. So please keep producing them :p
@phreakindee Ah, the memories of Commander Keen 4! I remember it being the first game I ever played on my dad's Multiplex 386 sx machine with a mighty 12 mhz processor! I believe it had a red menu driven interface allowing simple booting of classic games like Theme Park and Syndicate, and I really wish I could have seen it today since it was given away a few years later :(
They were far more common around this 386 era than the 8088 or even AT era, but they were still an expensive add-on. Consider that the hard drive that came with this machine would have added $300-400 to the already lofty price. And a 90MB drive could easily cost $1,000 for a computer like this.
6:20 you just nailed the killer point of Windows and all the other early multitasking GUIs - even when compared to something like Atari GEM or even the first versions of MacOS. Moving up to 3.1 was a revelation, not having to do as much work as you could in one app until you reached a sticking point, saving everything, shutting down and loading some other app you needed, saving everything there, then reloading the other from scratch to import the file you just made with the second prog... ughh!
Upped it to 640k RAM, dropped in an 8087 co-processor, swapped the MDA for CGA graphics, added a joystick card, I think that's it. I have other stuff I can upgrade at some point, like an AdLib card, but just haven't felt the desire to yet.
Ahh the memories , the 386 was my first own computer, I got it in 5th grade and played all the great classic adventure games day and night (side note: that was around the year 2000! )
I did enjoy this video, a lot. It's weird that you sould look at that system, it's specs are almost identical to my first computer (IBM PS/ValuePoint 6382) - and I raked that out just a couple of days ago. 386 FTW!
Whenever I see this, the first thing that comes to mind is my Packard Bell Legend 316SX. Runs on a 25MHz AMD 386SX with 4MB of RAM, built-in VGA graphics card, 1GB hard drive(the original one crashed, so I fitted a spare 1GB hard drive I had), a SoundBlaster Vibra16 sound card and has MS-DOS v6.22 along with Windows 3.11 installed. To think I was using this computer to play Solitaire in Windows when I was a kid in the '90s. Good stuff, but nowadays, it's inadequate for my DOS gaming needs.
@tom611 It is, but it's also got some other stuff built into it. It's about twice as long and far more packed full of ICs compared to a normal dual gameport card. But honestly, I've never looked into what else it may accomplish, I just left it in there and haven't given it much thought. Now you've got me curious.
It's easy to forget just how good these PCs were. With bloatware and even greater demands on a processor's time, you can get used to thinking computers have only gotten good just recently. I like a nice power PC for my recording work. Yet so many great machines I've had for free or practically nothing. Currently, a Duron 1.2 Ghz machine is great for extra studio processing duties whilst a Pentium 400 Mhz at my grandmother's place is ace for DVDs and games. Both machines were found on the kerb.
i miss my old HP Vectra 386SX/40..that thing was a beast of a 386..don't remember how old it was, but it did have a built in IDE controller, which had no problem recognizing the 4.3GB IDE HDD that i stuck in it..most machines from that era wouldn't know what to do with a 4.3GB..seemed like it was slightly ahead of it's time..
@silntdoogood My copy does not, and no copy actually, of DOS 6.2 come with DOS Shell integrated into it. It came on 5.0 integrate -- but also there was an extra "supplemental disk" for DOS 6.2 that contained the Shell and other utilities. Great stuff there, it's a free download from MS still, on their website. Not all packs of 6.2 came with that supplemental disk!
@thedarkhenrik , cont. What you're thinking of is the i486. Initially it was just called the 486, but later on Intel released a version without a coprocessor (actually it had one, it was just disabled) and to prevent confusion they re-branded the original 486 to the 486 DX and the new chip the 486SX. Both are the same chip minus the coprocessor. That's why in older systems the 486 is just marked 486, even if it has a coprocessor. A i487 can be added to a SX system to make it a DX.
@3ytc Then why ask why I needed this computer if you're using a VM? That's completely different, and obviously I wouldn't run into the speed issue if I were using one. This is a real machine. I run the games on their original hardware and for several I needed a very specific machine. VMs and emulators simply do not provide the actual experience, although they may be much easier nowadays to use. But I'm not about easy.
This video feels like it's from an alternate dimension where RUclips was created in 1990.
Ha Ha Ha Yup
For those who're getting confused:
When he says "PS2" he's talking about the "PS/2" port - it stands for "Personal System/2" which were made by IBM :)
Yeah definitely not a play station ! Lol
"Shut up Windows 7, you are *not* welcome here."
LGR Quote of the Year, All Years.
+Jacob Turner Windows 7 is the best windows to date, That would apply to windows Vista, 98, 8, ME. oh and if you're thinking about windows 10 then you can say good-bye for any privacy you had.
+Kinosaurus Windows 8 is actually really good. And it is much faster than Windows 7 too. The only thing with Windows 8 is that people got pissy about its Metro interface, which is actually quite easy to get used to, that's it. In my opinion stock Windows 8 (not 8.1) is superior to both Windows 7 and to Windows 8.1, which is where some (very few) compatibility problems appeared.
So yeah, Win 8 doesn't belong in this list, at all. In my opinion, of course :3
Nightquaker i Had 8, 8.1 10, Windows 7 Has the cleanest operation, no MS Bloatware, "performance of 8?" we're dealing with 5% Maximum performance port over with the newer OS. Not a deal breaker in any way. Grid was an awful idea, and it's pretty much a fact as they dropped the metro UI in Win 10. Just because you like 8 doesn't mean it's good, it's the worst windows since vista.
Kinosaurus Let me counter-argument you on that one. Just because you don't like Win 8, doesn't mean it's the worst one since Vista. Got it?
By better performance on 8, I also meant faster boot times. Especially on mid-end systems and/or hard drives. Not everybody has an SSD, nor does everybody want one.
About Metro UI? Nah, it's still just an opinion. Sure, it might be not as functional as the traditional start menu, but it's not as bad as people describe it. And after some time of use, it's actually pretty much as good as normal start menu. It's different, sure, but that doesn't mean that it's bad.
Hell, perhaps it was just too different for lots of people.
What MS bloatware are we talking about? With automatic updates disabled, mind you. The Metro apps? You can delete the folder on the system drive easily to disable them.
Nightquaker Stick With Windows 8 and be happy with tablet experience on a desktop, what ever floats your boat, or sinks it.
i suppose if i had big black disks stuck in me all day i would be quite particular as well
you seriously made me laugh out loud with that one.
^^^^
Ryan Wolfe he made me spew coffee out of my nose! LOL
Hahaha that was kinda funny, I had to hear it two times before i belived it :p
This joke is RUclips gold
My mother was a beta tester for some of the earliest versions of Windows back in the 80s through the company she worked for and they found it incredibly annoying to get used to not having to type the exact location on the hard drive where the file was with every function you used and they kept losing files because Windows would save them in funny directories until they figured out to make the default folders with obvious names like "My Documents".
"It sounds like a vintage refrigerator...preparing for liftoff...to space." --LGR 2010
Awesome!
Exactly what I was looking for!
You are amazing!
This was the first pc I interact with, because in 1993 I worked at Sam's and we have to take it out of the box for display, so we started playing with it.
For me it didn't look like it was built on 1986, but rather 2020!
We got the 386 back then thanks to a pc project on my parents work. Back then they said "The 386 is so advanced you won't need to buy a new pc ever!" I think it wasn't that long after that the 486 came out xD
We had this one for a long long time. My parents didn't see any point in buying a new pc while this one worked fine.....even though the games that where released couldn't play on our computer anymore. We had one upgrade when my neighbour was about to trow away his cd rom drive. I think we where one of the few people who actualy had a cd rom drive in our 386 xD mostly cause other people already upgraded to pentium 1 and such.
Great times though, really miss those days when games left way more to the imagination. I could really dream away with the game..these days games are way to beautiful so not leaving much to the imagination, or maybe it just seemed better cause i was a child back then.
We gave it to my aunt and uncle when we (finally!) upgraded to a pentium 2 400 mhz with a voodoo 2 3dfx. Man that one was badass too....finally i could make my friends jealous cause Need for Speed 2 special edition had nifty effects if you had a 3dfx card.
The 386 eventually died when the battery was depleted..i didn't know there was one inside it, but appearantly on the motherboard or something there was one. But it served for a long long time.
Enough time has passed that you could do a retro review of that phone.
Haha, yeah it's getting there.
Everything is intentional :D
Hi there, just wanted to say thanks for this great vid, I am in the process of building my own old DOS based PC for playing old games and found this vid really useful, thanks again mate.
wow you have restored this back to its glory its a beautiful it looks brand new
I still love your channel after all these years! You should do a follow up video like this!
Thank you for the Keen interlude & demonstration! I loved my 386DX !
Wow, watching this video is really fun. The channel was really different back then.
Yeah, it was a lot better in all honesty..
@@logicone5667 I didn't say it was better or worse. Just different.
@@swiftfox3461 yeah i know.. I'm saying it was a lot better, but that's just my opinion..
i love your older videos, the whole VCR recording thing brings back memories for my childhood.
Excellent video! It really took me back. Mind you, my first pc had an 8088 processor that ran at 4.77 mHz. No HD, just one 5 1/4" floppy. Keep up the great vids on vintage machines!
I had two of these NCR 386 SX from 1989, one for parts, and the other still running. Still have the memory from the NCR 386 SX ! Awesome old machines for it's days. The low formatting process was cool also. I was just 24 years back in them days of 1989 ! Everyone in High School wanted me to take computer class, but I never did, because I was waiting for something better then floppies to come out in the future. I still use floppies even in my new computers, because I still like them the best compared to USB or Flash drives ! Cd Roms & DVDs are awesome ! I endup throwing the older larger floppies out when I moved my "69" computers twin in two years ! I just restored a 2006 hp pavilion a1324n since my HP Labtop DUO Core went up missing from a thief I left in my house by herself well I went out grocery shopping ! That was a big mistake on my part. I will never place trust in anyone any more ! Goodnight LGR !
I love videos like this, it really makes the retro-geek come out.
I love your videos; full of info and casual fun talk!
My local Bank of America used to use those same exact NCR 386SX computers as their teller terminals until about 5 or 6 years ago, connected to a Windows NT 4.0 network server. They've since upgraded all the computers, but the terminals still run in text mode.
Gotta love those old boot-up sounds. :)
My first real PC was a 386sx16 - Great memories in this video, thanks man!
Dude, I still remember sitting at my friend's place, loading the next game while listening to this loud, nailing harddrive sound. Brought back some memories, thanks for sharing! :)
Greetings from Germany :)
Once you got into playing the CGA games I was hooked! The colours and sounds are incredible!
I enjoy the game reviews, but I prefer the hardware and software reviews much more. Always learning more.
Wow, this looks grainy compared to your regular videos. Did RUclips downscale it on me? 480p? That's the top resolution? What the... oh, hey wait. This was uploaded almost a decade ago! My goodness, and this thing was vintage even *then*! And it would have blown the doors off of my first two PCs, not even counting my pre-PC computers.
How time flies!
back in 1998 when I was shown the first computer to my family, it was a windows 95. I am using Virtualbox to test out MS-DOS 6.22 right now. Amazing videos 'phreakindee'.
watching this in 2021 and it's interesting how Clint's format really hasn't changed much at all :D
This video should be the subject of the next LGR retro tech video.
found your channel a couple of weeks ago and love your work! that bleach album...heck yes.
OMG this is awesome, classic Clint.
The IBM PS/2 is what I'm referring to, which was an influential range of PCs. Specifically, I was referring to machines like the the PS/2 35SX in this case.
@harshbarj thanks for that info, I must have been thinking of the 486DX/SX series.. always good to have the facts straight, thanks for cearing that up :-)
dude keep it old school, don't sell out! Honestly big props to you for the old school!
I have watched nearly all newer LGR videos and so I started to look them from the start :D Jokes, all this 286-386 stuff, the games, I just love it. I grew up with IBM AT, 286/8, MDA (later HGC&CGA), HD 5,25" (later 40Mb hard drive), black-yellow 12" screen and 640k RAM. End times of this 286 in 1992 it had VGA and Soundblaster compatible soundcard. Damn I played Wolfenstein 3D with it! Then I got 386SX/33... 486SX/25... 486DX2/66 (just swapped processor) and then I got into overclocking. This 486 went 80MHz with no problems, and even 90MHz but then it was little unstable. But when it worked, Duke Dukem 3D just flew at 320x400 resolution and my Pentium 60MHz friends were pissed off :D :D
@izlude2 Spellbound was freakin' rad. That dude with the red hat and cool shoes? Ownage.
My first computer was a 386DX with a 387 math coprocessor. Good days...
386 SX had no coprocessor, so was cheaper.
The hum of the hard drive in the 386 machine is so nostalgic. I like it! The PC XT also had these noised ane beeps that I miss.
Awesome video. And videos.
I'm a sucker for old PCs and old PC advertisements. First PC I used was an old NEC Ready, in '95-'96. It had a very interesting program on it called "Merlin's Tour" that basically was a video about what your PC could do and how to do simple tasks with it like changing the wallpaper and such. I haven't been able to find any info on the program for years, and I haven't found a video of the program, which I'd love to see.
Anyways, your videos are pretty awesome.
World Class Leaderboard.
It's the same base architecture, but unrelated in the sense that it's from a later generation. This is a low end 386, they actually went up to 40MHz. In fact, the CPU to succeed the 386 (the 486) also went up to 100MHz. The Cx5x86 was there to fill the gap between the 486 and the 586, called the Pentium. They actually went up to 120 and even 133MHz! CPUs have only gotten exponentially faster since.
Dude, this was an awesome video. My first computer after my Vic20 was a 386sx 16MHz machine, with a 52 meg HD and a 1 meg chip of RAM. I used to love Commander Keen and Test Drive 3.. Death Track and Stunts were good too.
Awesome! Brings back a lot of good memories :-)
Ah I remember the noisy hard drives when I was a kid. I had a PC clone that my dad bought at Radio Shack. Played mostly educational games. Loved Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego. Also enjoyed Conquest of the Longbow and Conquest of Camelot. Good times. Thank you for the videos.
Realy nice video looking forward to see more of those
Awesome video. I remember both of those systems and the games - loved commander Keen! To be technical, though, the 80286 was the real step up and the 80386sx was mostly a marketing ploy. I kindof wish I kept some of those old systems... The IBM XT was sold on a garage sale a long, long time ago for $20.
Commander Keen 4, I remember playing this game on a Windows 98 computer, so many memories :)
@TheIntolerantAtheist If you want to get technical it actually was created in 1985... so if anything, it's older still! The first production model of the 386 was introduced in June 1986.
Ohhh man...that hard drive sound. I miss that. My first windows computer was an Am386 DX 25 that hardly ran doom through its ET4000. I want one again so bad. Biggest PC beep speaker I've ever seen in one, too, at four inches.
Really fun for the old history PC... all running in DOS
@3ytc Agreed, they can be a serious pain, especially back when these were still your everyday computer for work/school/play. I can't tell you much how I hated DOS and everything about the PC for quite some time. But now that I can relive those days at my leisure (the good parts at least) with real machines for very little cash, it's quite fun in appropriate doses. Fun to collect the software boxes and stuff as well.
Hourray for Jazz Jackrabbit. :)
Again great video man. Wish there were three of you so there would be
more videos. ;)
Dude! You got an IBM Model M keyboard. Respect! They cost a hell of a lot nowadays. I've used mine on and off for about a decade now. Pure quality! (The IBM PS/2 is resting at my parents place, but its' 20 kg monitor is no longer with us)
I miss the little noises computers used to make when you turned them on, always made me happy. Now they're almost dead silent.
I always liked NCR's system designs and the fact that their computers were uncommonly well built.
cheers for the vid i could never remember the name of the game commander keen until today was child hood memory's right here !!
Thanks! And yes they have. I read an article a few weeks ago online (published July 2000), that said since the 1ghz processor was making it's debut, 'Moore's Law" said that the number of transistors would double every year, and they predicted a 128ghz Processor by 2011. Early 2012, the world record is 8.43ghz haha
No. The PS/2 is what I'm referring to, which was an influential range of IBM PCs. Specifically, I was referring to machines like the the PS/2 35SX in this case.
So the New California Republic uses this kind of computer?
Obsidian should make another Fallout game.
Big black disks o.O
You seem super excited about this machine LOL I would have loved to have this back in the day! That pogostick game looks fun :D
Another AMAZING review!
AMAZING!!!
The 386 seems more impressive than my 2012 computer. It was more fun to compute back in those days.
Awesome video, I never owned a 386 let alone seen one in action. I plan on getting one very soon.
@Bakemon13 Hey, I hope to at some point in the future for sure! One of my favorite consoles easily
Back in the day one of the kids in my neighborhood has a 386 that we played games on. Not only did it sound like a refrigerator on its last legs when you started it up, it also gave off a foul smell like burning copper or something.
This is why computers from back in the day are better than the ones we have now: the new ones don't even smell like anything.
Oh those big black disk's
I was referring to PS/2 machines like the 35SX in this case, which is quite similar to this NCR Comten. Also, there were other NCR machines using the same chassis as mine that used the PS/2 microchannel architecture that the other PS/2s used. So I don't think it's too strange to call it a PS/2 clone (of sorts) as these cloned more than just PS/2 ports from the IBM machines.
Bubble Ghost FTW! I first played it on my brother's Wang PC with an IBM emulation board installed. I wish that computer was still around.
@phreakindee I´m also not completely satisfied with emulation, but I use it alot since I´m not able to aford a lot of those old systens, especially here in Brazil, where everything costs an eye and a ball. I mean, I could easily buy some old 486 or P2 or p3 for a very low price here, but the rare stuff, no way. We would probably need to import it.
I really like your channel and I think you´re one of the best reviewers in YT. So please keep producing them :p
"If I had big black disks being stuck in me all day too, I would be quite particular as well"
Quote of the century.
I was watching Blues Brothers 2000, just seen in the 634-5789 song routine the operators are using NCR pc's the orange power button is a big give away
@MustNotRead Model M's are hard to beat, used them for as long as I can remember (literally!) and have no intention of stopping!
Yes, today our prices are amazingly low in comparison. And those were 1989 dollars... that $400 drive would have been about $750 in today's US dollar.
I have the same keyboard on my IBM Personal Computer 350 - P100! I love using computers that are outdated and old. I find them more fun.
TD3 was the first car game that let me roam around freely, and it fscking rocked!
@phreakindee Ah, the memories of Commander Keen 4! I remember it being the first game I ever played on my dad's Multiplex 386 sx machine with a mighty 12 mhz processor! I believe it had a red menu driven interface allowing simple booting of classic games like Theme Park and Syndicate, and I really wish I could have seen it today since it was given away a few years later :(
Nirvana, ms dos, floppy disks,, crt monitors, dude, we are in the same page,,, friggin kudos for you!!!!!!
My very first LGR video. Hooked ever since. :)
New California Republic 386 MS-DOS Computer? Is this the computer the NCR government and army use in Fallout NV?
They were far more common around this 386 era than the 8088 or even AT era, but they were still an expensive add-on. Consider that the hard drive that came with this machine would have added $300-400 to the already lofty price. And a 90MB drive could easily cost $1,000 for a computer like this.
6:20 you just nailed the killer point of Windows and all the other early multitasking GUIs - even when compared to something like Atari GEM or even the first versions of MacOS. Moving up to 3.1 was a revelation, not having to do as much work as you could in one app until you reached a sticking point, saving everything, shutting down and loading some other app you needed, saving everything there, then reloading the other from scratch to import the file you just made with the second prog... ughh!
It's probably the most noteworthy, yes.
Upped it to 640k RAM, dropped in an 8087 co-processor, swapped the MDA for CGA graphics, added a joystick card, I think that's it. I have other stuff I can upgrade at some point, like an AdLib card, but just haven't felt the desire to yet.
WooooW What a time has passed...
Aww. Old Paint always looks so cute.
Ahh the memories , the 386 was my first own computer, I got it in 5th grade and played all the great classic adventure games day and night (side note: that was around the year 2000! )
I did enjoy this video, a lot. It's weird that you sould look at that system, it's specs are almost identical to my first computer (IBM PS/ValuePoint 6382) - and I raked that out just a couple of days ago. 386 FTW!
commander keen rocks used to play that one all the time when i was a kid :)
I always want a ID Software T Shirt since this video.
03:50 oohhh just how I missed that HDD sound sooo much...!!!
Great video man very informative.
Whenever I see this, the first thing that comes to mind is my Packard Bell Legend 316SX. Runs on a 25MHz AMD 386SX with 4MB of RAM, built-in VGA graphics card, 1GB hard drive(the original one crashed, so I fitted a spare 1GB hard drive I had), a SoundBlaster Vibra16 sound card and has MS-DOS v6.22 along with Windows 3.11 installed. To think I was using this computer to play Solitaire in Windows when I was a kid in the '90s. Good stuff, but nowadays, it's inadequate for my DOS gaming needs.
HOLY SHIT COMMANDER KEEN!!!!! that brings back sooo many memories!!!!!
@tom611 It is, but it's also got some other stuff built into it. It's about twice as long and far more packed full of ICs compared to a normal dual gameport card. But honestly, I've never looked into what else it may accomplish, I just left it in there and haven't given it much thought. Now you've got me curious.
@SamuraiClinton Hooray for people that are satisfied with emulation! I'm just not one of them, not in the least :)
It's easy to forget just how good these PCs were. With bloatware and even greater demands on a processor's time, you can get used to thinking computers have only gotten good just recently.
I like a nice power PC for my recording work. Yet so many great machines I've had for free or practically nothing. Currently, a Duron 1.2 Ghz machine is great for extra studio processing duties whilst a Pentium 400 Mhz at my grandmother's place is ace for DVDs and games. Both machines were found on the kerb.
i miss my old HP Vectra 386SX/40..that thing was a beast of a 386..don't remember how old it was, but it did have a built in IDE controller, which had no problem recognizing the 4.3GB IDE HDD that i stuck in it..most machines from that era wouldn't know what to do with a 4.3GB..seemed like it was slightly ahead of it's time..
@silntdoogood My copy does not, and no copy actually, of DOS 6.2 come with DOS Shell integrated into it. It came on 5.0 integrate -- but also there was an extra "supplemental disk" for DOS 6.2 that contained the Shell and other utilities. Great stuff there, it's a free download from MS still, on their website. Not all packs of 6.2 came with that supplemental disk!
@thedarkhenrik , cont. What you're thinking of is the i486. Initially it was just called the 486, but later on Intel released a version without a coprocessor (actually it had one, it was just disabled) and to prevent confusion they re-branded the original 486 to the 486 DX and the new chip the 486SX. Both are the same chip minus the coprocessor. That's why in older systems the 486 is just marked 486, even if it has a coprocessor. A i487 can be added to a SX system to make it a DX.
@3ytc Then why ask why I needed this computer if you're using a VM? That's completely different, and obviously I wouldn't run into the speed issue if I were using one.
This is a real machine. I run the games on their original hardware and for several I needed a very specific machine. VMs and emulators simply do not provide the actual experience, although they may be much easier nowadays to use. But I'm not about easy.