Izuku really only needs to place one rule one himself if he get's New Order: "New Order can replicate the full power of any Quirk I'm familiar with, either through first hand experience or study!" and like that he not only has the Quirks of all his friends and possibly people he's fought like Overhaul, Muscular and Gentle but also One For All back, on top of the many hero's he's studied throughout his life it would be absolutely broken!
@YamadaDesigns sorta, however deku can't be everywhere at once, even if deku resume being a full time hero he can't do everything alone, he has friends for that.
Very true. But he really only needs to be OP for this fight. After that he can simply change the permanent rule on himself@@ianjomarcaraballorodriguez6224
may as well ask for infinite strength... the quirk is not a wishing machine it has his limits we don't know exactly where are the limits but pretty sure you are asking for to much.
Are we ignoring the obvious here? If Shigaraki takes the whole of OfA, there may be an extra vestige that goes with it. Thats right, a partial vestige of Deku will likely go to him if not a whole one. The battle will entirely shift to an internal one as the vestiges battle AfO and Deku reaches out to the one part of Shigaraki that wants to be saved.
@@tweetttt7670 Hmm for such a thing he would need to know alot of name of individuals. But at this rate don't see it happening. Sure it could evolve to a higher degree where such a thing is possible. Maybe in time there will be a solution for it but otherwise imagine new environments being made from quirks.
If Midoriya does save Tenko, I'd be cute to see it as lil kid versions with Midoriya saying 'you wanna play heroes?' with a big smile, like when he helped Bakugo with the 'are you alright' flashback
True, considering the vestige of Star I'm gonna assume that after all the quirks have been stolen he will obtain a new order alongside the physical enchantment of ofa. This makes sense because the last order Star gave was for multiple quirks to rebel against each other, so for him to obtain her quirk after losing all of his extra quirks and letting go of ofa makes sense. Im not sure why else she would have been in the vestige world but regardless her quirk would be op
@@CJforever958 Her last order was for New order to rebel against other quirks. The quirk is still doing just that by pointing fellow rebels in the direction of a weak point. I don't think one for all and New order can co-exist. What I think is more likely, is that New order will use up its last dregs of life to restore Deku to full health and let his body withstand one for all at full power. That way, Deku will be able to stay in the fight, even after losing Blackwhip.
@@requiemempire6637 I think Blackwhip is going to stay, Horikoshi loves Spiderman too much to let it go. Plus it seems like the best quirk to keep in conjunction with the raw power from OfA because it's seemingly capable of coating Dekus muscle fibers down to the molecular level, nullifying the damage OfA wreaks on his body. That and it's just really cool, by itself it would make anyone the top 3 hero right next to best jeanist, potentially higher.
I Remember when Most People in the early days of the toxic fandom used to Hate Izuku midoriya calling him a bland Shonen/Anime New protagonist of this generation but after everything he's been through with his development going from Zero to Hero even in the Movies and OVAs since they're connected and canon especially during the Dark Deku vigilante Arc, Now People are starting to Love him, I don't know how Izuku is still gonna save tomura with the talk no jutsu because maybe he'll pull something out of Avatar with him giving away OFA with the past users especially nana shimura to help save tomura too.
I'm personally of the opposite opinion I thought he had a lot of charm originally, and recently became a bland shonen protagonist But I respect your opinion though
@@mrp1zz492 I really felt like we got the opposite the recent arcs feel like "Look how badass Deku is now" rather than the story many people fell in love with
The aspect of the conflict I enjoy between Shiguraki and Midoria, it's not just a physical clash. It's also a conflict of ideology, morals, mettle, a philosophical fight as well.
Yessir. I appreciate fans who actually appreciate the layered writing and sophisticated social criticisms that can be extrapolated into real world contexts. Its such a nuisance when people assume im enjoying animated fights like a small child simply because of the action sounds and violence 🙄 That stuff is cool dont get me wrong, but without at least some intelligently placed themes, moral conundrums and such serving as the foundation for the fight scenes i enjoy the most, they just wouldn't be enjoyable.
@darksage2233 He wanted to be a Hero, so an easy answer would be to join UA to be one anyway, although I don't think UA would accept from not his lack of quirk but the very dangerous situations the students are put in (under supervision) and compound that with Midoria's exceptional lack of experience and lack of ability to do anything whilst in those situations. So, I think Midoria would have a regular job, no super hero career (not even as a sidekick, but his skill in analysing could have been used), and may have died in one of the many catastrophies brought on by the many villains, All Might would choose a successor from UA, I don't think he or his mother would end up in contact with AfO because Midoria has a strong moral compass which would steer him away from taking those avenues, even if his mother would (out of desperation or whatever).
I honestly have no idea how to feel about this, on the one hand, it does seem pretty cool for Deku to have New Order, but on the other hand, I’d like for Deku to still have OFA, but… I really don’t know
@@blueranger7107 So imposing a rule the merges the quirks together. Hmm intriguing. I can already imagine the possibilities especially if the abilities are boosted. I can picture Izuku copying black hole, erasure, and other quirks he has seen. Imagine if he copies Kota's quirk like the time he distracted Muscular it will help him against Shigaraki. Who can decay matter.
The only way for Deku to pull this off with His friends is if he uses both abilities at the same time one inside one out this is probably the way there going and the writer also said he loves Star Wars to the point many characters and parts of the story take up after it I think this is kinda like Star Wars first movie I believe he’s gonna turn him good and some new Villains stronger then both of them will come out so he’ll have to regain One for All and and New order and also NO is kinda what he’s been doing the hole time so I think it’s gonna happen if the writers didn’t mess up by adding her so late to where she didn’t have any character development then yeah I’d say she wasn’t coming back but MH write is pretty good at fixing problems plot wholes and that was a major one
I think it would be super cool to see deku use new order, also hearing deku has to give shigaraki one for all reminds me of kung fu panda 3 when po gave Kai his chi, also I feel like deku may also get all for one, also I feel like shigaraki may also have the quirks of his family members.
If he got All for One wouldn't he most likely die? Shigaraki went through an extremely long process just to get ready for it. Deku has trained for the power of One for All but I don't think his body could handle All for One's sheer amount of quirks.
@@Jordan-r5vCall me dumb or crazy and 🤒 I'll accept it. Aside from more questions raised 🤚🙌🙌🤚 from battle and recent stuff with ofa and sig think the quirk singularity also a villain or that to much.
@@mrp1zz492Shigeraki didn't do the same core training. Gamer bod. I mean, I know they trained against Gigantomachia, but they weren't doing it to build his mass, it was to force his quirk to evolve. So I'm pretty sure Deku could handle AFO. The other benefit is that he might be able to then house AFOs and consciousness within him in order to remove his influence from Shigeraki. Or maybe extract all of Shigeraki's traumatic memories. The other possibility is that he uses New Order to take OFA and Shigeraki's decay away which would save the day, but possibly kill Deku in the process, but then if he made one of the rules for NWO "My body will not take damage from my quirks", he'd be all set. He'd then probably make a rule that "nothing can ever transfer or copy my quirks under any circumstances" to make sure no one else ever steals them.
I know so many people say he is not going to be quirkless, but if it becomes that way I think it could be a seriously amazing moment. Even quirkless, he becomes the biggest hero the earth has and embodies what a true hero is. Someone who does the right thing no matter what...
"While it is only a small ember someone can still cultivate it to give to another. That one spark can bring out the best in another." My reply to said thought
New order was talking to the vestige of all might. That's why almight heard from her and was in on the vestiges convo. Deku plans to give up the other quirks and hold onto all for one by itself
nah, he'll also hold onto black whip since the other vestiges know it'll keep him alive while they go into Shigaraki and rip into him mentally from the inside
Hopefully, when the battle ends, Deku will still have One For All and will only lose Danger sense and Gearshift. But it would also be cool if he somehow received the New Order Quirk!
Personally I think Deku’s quirk was super op. But it couldn’t manifest fully. But since it’s been one for all its been growing stronger and stronger. To the point where it’s something he can use.
Deku gaining New Order is just like him gaining OFA, but without the DNA part. I admit it is out of left field, but it makes so much sense. I mean, think about it. Stars and Stripes only left one order in place when she still has two spaces available. The whole part of her possibly blessing the current OFA user with this quirk if OFA is ever taken, does make sense due to her no longer needing to fully use her quirk when she was dying. Hence the reason her vestige never left and showed up when the Fourth User was taken away from OFA. If you truly stop and think about it, it shouldn't surprise you that this could've ever happened seeing she knew about All Might and OFA's secret once she became the #1 Hero of the USA.
What about after the fight? Can't Deku use New Order and kinda swap it back for One For All. After everything that's happened, I don't think he'll wanna be apart from OFA.
I mean.. Bro can use one rule for him to be able to retain all quirks his body has ever used. Then he can have another rule to do whatever the hell he wants, assuming he won't need that extra rule to make his body suitable for all the quirks.
I feel like if deku were to have a natural born quirk it would be a quirk mutation like eri, also if he had his own quirk I feel like his power would be kinda like Steven universe, since he wants to help and save people a quirk that can heal and protect people would be the kind of power he would have.
Getting new order will be dope... Deku losing ofa will be tough but if he can find a way to replicate other quirks through his knowledge of it will be OP by way of New Order...
I honestly feel the best course of action is, as you said, the quirk transfer works both ways. As OFA is taken by Shigaraki, the quirks begin transferring quirks to Deku, namely the regeneration, augmented strength and search. Without augmented strength his body can't handle the power of OFA and without regeneration, the parts of his body that get destroyed stay that way. Just my thoughts
Really, I'm viewing Deku as a true villian now. He keeps dicking around with AFO who is responsible for the deaths of many and threatens the world...just to maintain his personal code/worldview.
I like that. It would make the whole introducing star and stripe in the first place mean something. Because how it stands she was just filler because except losing a few quirks all it did was to show how powerful shigarki was which is lame trope in anime when a character is just a body to show off someones abilities on.
i wish he would be like after the final war he would make a rule that after the war ends he gets one for all back and the quirk order becomes apart of one for all and it doesnt damage his body/kill him
It really does sound like One For All would completely get lost. At first I thought that it was only each quirk stored within but then I remember that Yoichi could disappear as well. That does make me wonder what happens to that realm of vestiges. Will that vanish as well? Another thing to think about is how that'll leave All Might because he didn't a trace of him in this quirk. He only got to use the raw power aspect whike Midoriya got to use that alongside everyone else's quirks. I also realize something else. It also seems that the quirks that are vanishing are those that belong to their original owner but with that logic, i recall that Yoichi's original quirk is being able to pass it onto others. That makes me question the fate of the Stockpiling Quirk which belonged to none of them since it was a quirk given by All For One. If that Quirk still remains, then it starts to sound more like OfA isn't completely gone. It is just getting reset, returned to a blank slate or rather, it underwent a factory reset. If New Order is being given to Deku, then... Now that's an interesting thought to speculate on. Of course, this depends on what Horikochi will write. I do think Deku can still be a Hero at this point if he does go with this. Stockpiling Quirk + New Order
This just my opinion so feel free to take it or leave it. In the final fight with all for one, Deku injected all of the previous users into All for one. This in turn made his body fall apart just like All Might said would happen If he gave OFA to Deku before his body was ready. This includes the AFO younger brother (I refuse to butcher the spelling). This means that all quirks including the stock piling quirk is gone. Because without passing the stock piling quirk he is just passing the other user's vestiges and their quirks which wouldn't have the same effect on AFO. This was the purpose for OFA, to take out AFO. From a story perspective it wouldn't make sense for the quirk to still be viable in any way. This is of course without mentioning the fact that AFO brother told Deku that he would be the final wielder of OFA. As for all might not being able to use all the previous quirks, this is pretty much left to almost pure speculation. At one point one of the vestiges told Deku that he was almost like a chosen one, and that circumstances seemingly lined up for him to be the one to "complete" OFA. Personally, I think All Might had a secret quirk that even he or the vestiges didn't know about. It's more than a little weird that he could use 100% of OFA out the gate since in flash backs we have seen of before he had the quirk, he was a similar size to Deku. I think he had a quirk that allowed his body to store vast amounts of power and release it. Thats why he was the strongest user. He had a complementary quirk to OFA. OFA gave him the power and his quirk allowed his body to store and then use it. This is why when he does transform or is having trouble maintaining his muscle form you see a good amount of steam. It's his body releasing what it can't hold. No other character in the entire show can transform like that without a quirk. He is even able to do this to some degree after the embers of OFA have left him. It's just too much of a physical change to right off as "flexing" like he said. Sorry, that topic is a bit of a sore subject for me. I digress. He never needed the other quirks. He had all the strength he needed in the raw power of OFA. OFA is gone but what was said in this video is possible. I feel it's unlikely, but not impossible. I would like to see Deku with a quirk of some kind and still rise to that #1 hero spot with that quirk, but it this is how he ends his hero career than that a fine way to do it. There are rumors floating around that the story will continue without Deku. If that happens then I will read/watch it. But it will feel like starting a new Manga or anime. I know people complain about Deku, but I love his story and his growth. If he leaves the story, it won't be the same story to me. Not saying it won't be good. I'm just saying it won't be MHA. Thank you, this has been my TED Talk, Stay classy and PLUS ULTRA!!!
Allmight felt a connection to his vestage self recently. I don't know if deku will get new order, I don't think that would be necessary. Deku will have a vestage move to AFO with Yoichi. As OFA is wreaking havoc in AFO shiggy's body collapses. Quirks freaking out left and right now one can get close. Deku feeling something going on in AFO starts meditating and he's in the middle of a battle field shiggy and AFO against all of OFA, except whisp-might. Battle goes on a while, and when he's needed most all we get is an apology, and the words. "I AM HERE!!!" deku and Allmight whoop some ass tag team style. Deku switches off tag partners borrowing their quirks while he does cuz why not. If only right...
I haven't been keeping up lately but here goes. I'm going to go on a limb and say to save Shigaraki, Deku actually does have to give One for all to him because that would come full circle with the origin of why the two powers fight. Somehow it will make both powers cancel out and disperse from him, causing him to be saved from the decay quirk and thus causing Shiggy to turn a new leaf due to Deku's sacrifice. He would then probably have his actual quirk that I still speculate was stolen develop or comeback in a sense.
I honestly feel that deku will keep one for all but loose the other vestiges but get new order since there will be 7 new slots open and that will be what lets deku keep up with shigi
This was my theory from when the fight first started which i was posting in almost every mha review on this channel and others 😂. Its starting to look like it might actually come true because why else would the bring back new order after shigaraki gave it away? Since its revealed shigaraki can take dekus quirk albeit one at a time it looks like ofa will be lost at the end and deku might get new order as a replacement. People complaining about this are dumb. Deku would still be able to use his ofa quirks by replicating it using new order and on top of that he will be able to relicate the abilities of every hero he has ever studied using new order. He'd basically be able to use it better than stars and stripes could because he studied every hero that he looked upto and admired whereas stars and stripes only studied all might which is why she only use to replicate his strength.
My thought is what if he only steals a piece of the quirk an new order mixes in an replaces the rest of the quirk deku lost so he's gotten an even more amazing version of one for all so he can still technically have 2 but it mixes into it instead over filling the cup that is deku an killing him from having multiple quirks.
Deku being the world’s greatest hero and also being quirkless would be an interesting reversal of the first chapter where all might says that he cannot be a hero without a quirk and physically changes Deku in order to fit into society’s ideals of a hero instead of recognizing the greatness already within him. During the sports festival and the fight training against iida and bakugo, he made a lot of impressive moves without using his quirk.
I do genuinely like this idea given how wasted New Order was. But we did see her try to give the order to be resistant to Decay as she was touched. Though it failed. That was the second order. More than likely its a fragment of New Order that survived. Star is unlikely to know all these fetails of OFA prior to being killed. So no such order would likely be possible anyway. Most likely once Tenko is actually saved. He'll give OFA back to Deku.
I've always find it interesting that Shigaraki's name is "Tomura" (弔) which meant "Mourning" possibly referring to mourning the death of "Tenko"'s childhood/life. Meaning, Tomura's entire life is mourning for the death of his former self. However, if Tenko's life is saved by Deku then there is no need for "mourning". I hope in the last moment, Tomura (as a separate entity) sacrifice himself to destroy All for One and say something like "Now my job is to mourn for someone who should be long dead". It would be the first and last "hero" move he does and also to mourn his own life BUT after completing his wish of being a hero as once a part of Tenko.
I hope that by the end of all this, Deku will regain all of his quirks from One For All as seen in Heroes rising, where Deku gives his quirks and then regains it at the end. One for All is just the best, and I really don't want Deku to lose any of it.
Couldn’t the solution be something like; Rule 1; quirks can revolt Rule 2; if additional quirks are added, transfer all the existing quirks to the new user. Shiguraki would be quirkless and the battle is over.
Well if Horokoshi is ever rushed to end the series.... we'll see Deku do it XD Deku: You know what, you are rushing me too much and as much as I want to save you... this is goodbye old chum. Shigaraki: What? Deku: WORLD OF HURT!!!! **Causes Shiga red mist**
Goated video…shits never getting animated but I can’t imagine deku with new order…nobody’s touching him at that point, he’ll be the strongest in history
So we just saw Black Whip cut through Tomura’s arm, which makes Himeko’s knife that much more egregious All Might was the strongest character with no other person who could physically challenge him for 40 years. Tomura has been stated to be on par with him physically and durably and Deku is even stronger than them Black Whip was able to restrain the second most powerful being, durable enough to withstand a beating from him and even main him. Yet this Quirk that has been super amped by the most powerful Quirk in the world, One for All, was able to be cut by a simple knife. That knife just breaks the entire power scaling of the series.
something interesting is new order might be able to make quirks. Like perment one.Deku is the person who understands the most about quirks of one for all so its not impossible that he could do some creative rule changes to either get one for all again or use its power
Deku could reach out his hand to shigaraki, while he is fighting the vestages, and say something like "tenko shimura. Let me save you". Tenko would be reachable (unlike before) because of the vestages, and new order will do the rest. Happy End 🤯
i feel like the vestiges of the OfA will be a mirror of how Tenko remembers his family holding him back, by reaching out to lift him up from the shadows, with his Nana in the middle
"I won't allow anyone named Shigaraki to wield the Power of All for One... But I believe in the dream of Shimura Tenko... If you ever needed help BE the Help you wished arrived when you've most needed it... If you're gonna try and kill me then I'd only live on in you... or I could teach you how to not die from this power, though Controlling All For One is probably your biggest issue... With this Power I will make sure that the will of
I'm 100% with the 2nd and 3rd users on why they disapproved of Deku. At this point Shigaraki is not someone who can or SHOULD be saved, and it's this mindset of Deku's that he can't and WON'T stop at saving any/everyone that he can that has gotten countless lives taken and will likely end with his own death. I also have to massively disagree on just killing Shigaraki not doing anything to change the status quo. Some villains just can't and don't deserve to be saved, like All For One for example. He just has to be killed no ifs, ands or buts about it if people want society to thrive. The same is to be said for Tomura. While it would be GREAT to save Tenko, it's just not possible at this point and Deku needs to STOP fucking risking so many lives on the CHANCE that they're able to save Tenko.
New Orders 2 rules when Deku acquires it: 1) Shig returns to the little boy he burried. 2) N.O. can replicate all previously owned quirks. Hes saves Shiguraki and keeps his powers from OFA
what i am expecting is that deku loses one for all, but because of the link he can go inside. he breaks intot he child self and at that time grabs all the quirks that are inside Shigaraki. all those people are inside shigaraki, but deku has the power of heart. Deku will take all that shigaraki has and become the singularity. shigaraki will have no quirks. he will have all of one and one for all. becoming the one.
What if~ Shiggi actually gets OFA leaving deku very weak and useless. Then hell breaks loose, and makes shiggi rampage nearly destroying everything due to his mental state because of the vestiges. All of Dekus friends goes to the main battlefield and attempts to hold shiggi down. One by one everyone goes down struggling and there is deku feeling useless getting flashbacks from where bakugo bullies him. Then when ochako and bakugo goes down. Deku snaps, unlocking his actual quirk that he got from his parents. This quirk could overwhelm shiggi thinking that he already stole everything and somehow deku actually got what he needs. It could be a quirk evolution that could borrow his friends quirks by passing their energy. Sort of like the spirit bomb from Dragon Ball. ~this could be a good opportunity to introduce dekus father
Here is what I think is going to happen. Now this is something I think will happen at the end of the battle not the end of the show. I think Deku will transfer one for all and the rest of his quirks to Shigaraki and obviously saving him. If I remember correctly Deku is badly injured from the battle. Now I may have this part wrong but blackwhip is what is keeping Deku alive right now? If that is the case, Deku will end up giving blackwhip to shigaraki last and will end up dying in battle with his friends by his side. However, I think this is where Eri comes into play and reverses Deku’s injuries and saves him. As for Deku’s power, as much as I don’t want him to end up quirckless seems like that is going to happen. It would make his character come to full circle and show the world that he truly is the greatest hero who is willing to sacrifice everything. As for the new world order power, I think it could be a possibility that Deku ends up with this. I honestly would be good with that. It breaks my heart to see him quirckless again because one of the joys for me watching the show was watching Deku become stronger and becoming a hero. But I guess we will see what happens.
i think deku is only gonna lose the additonal powers in his ofa, he will probably just be like all might, all might's ofa does not contain ligutning or even those black whips deku would probably have muscle form like all might
BEst part is, if I'm not wrong, there is a possibility that Deku can also regain OFA... once Tenko gains his place in the mess of confusion that is Tomura.
Unless, It wasn't. The Audience believes it was destroyed, It could easily be written stars and stripe used her 2nd rule and made it so upon certain conditions her quirk would be transferred.
@@jonathonswift7792 no, she used 1. 1st one was do not decay, she overrid that one to be her quirk rebels against other quirks. She still kept her 2nd rule which is and always was I want to be in the image of all might. Without it, she would be a pretty average looking person, but considering she was going to die anyway, she could.l've over rid her 2nd rule to be, If OFA is stolen, give the quirk to them. Tl;dr: She didn't use the 2nd rule just kept replacing the 1st one.
Wait, Deku’s mom has telepathy on the small scale. If AFO was Deku’s dad, his quirk might just be something called “Quirk Manipulation”. OFA (the quirk) originally mixed 2 powers together instead of breaking the 1st’s brain from the strain. I’m thinking the same phenomenon might occur while the Shigaraki brothers are throwing hands in the vestige world, and a OFA boosted quirk that appears from within Deku may just be the thing to take every quirk from every person, fixing society.
New Order transfers to the one who can save Tenko Shimura? Perhaps that was the rule Star set on her quirk. She probably even did it from the Vestige world within All For One in the exact second Tomura touched Deku to take Danger Sense. New Order being set this way means Star was aware that Quirk Transference of One For All will be what it would take to save Tenko. She also knows the world can't be without a hero of Allmight's caliber, so in that moment she would have had everything she needed to decide to use her New Order to transfer not to Deku directly, but rather to "The one who saves Tenko Shimura from All For One and Tomura Shigaraki". She could specifically specify Deku by name with her quirk and even know to do so through the AFO/OFA connection. She probably even amplified it to speak to Allmigh to inform him of all this. Star and Stripe is the American number one hero, so it would make sense she'd be calculated and highly skilled enough to plan to this extent.
I can see shimura tenko/shigaraki being the dark horse to save the heroes from AFO. IF shigaraki gets OFA, I can see it being the catalyst for awakening Tenko to being the hero he dreamed of and ending AFO once-and-for-all. His power of Decay is a real counter and threat to AFO, as in he can destroy the AFO and OFA. Theoretically as long as OFA exist, AFO will always be around because of the vestige world. So both of these quirks have to disappear in the end, it would also tie up the knot of all the previous user finally being "free" and moving on. Deku getting NWO would be a really nice twist keep the story of deku being the number 1 hero in the future, but i would rather the declared #1 hero being quirkless in the end. It would drive home the point, you maybe powerless but you can still be great.
would prefer quirkless deku, imagine the greatest super hero ever to grace hero society had no quirk, but by influence stopped villainy and saved everyone for good. plus, being quirkless means nothing when there are so many gadgets that are as strong as quirks (aizawa scarf, hawks visor) or that can just straight up replicate quirks entirely
For my theory Original one for all will remain in deku and get merged with new order + black wipe , or else he can regain all of quirk shigaraki holds at the time.
"One For All" is an Ideology to use ones power for all and not one like "All For One" rather than a quirk to be used. I believe the vestiges are the wills left behind in the quirks from its previous user rather than the quirk itself. Once their wills have been fulfilled they can truly "Pass On" their quirk and the vestige disappears. Take the first quirk given to One For All for example. The first quirk gained by One For All isn't Gear Shift but Stockpile, raising the question on were his vestige is. Stockpile was given in a time were people gave up their quirks to All For One willingly with the wish to become normal, meaning they most likely gave their quirk to become normal, that making their wish fulfilled, meaning no vestige in the quirk. This is also backed up by how quirks are capable of rebelling inside their host, as the host is directly going against their will making it harder to control.
Izuku really only needs to place one rule one himself if he get's New Order: "New Order can replicate the full power of any Quirk I'm familiar with, either through first hand experience or study!"
and like that he not only has the Quirks of all his friends and possibly people he's fought like Overhaul, Muscular and Gentle but also One For All back, on top of the many hero's he's studied throughout his life it would be absolutely broken!
Wouldn’t that just make Monoma useless?
@YamadaDesigns sorta, however deku can't be everywhere at once, even if deku resume being a full time hero he can't do everything alone, he has friends for that.
Very true. But he really only needs to be OP for this fight. After that he can simply change the permanent rule on himself@@ianjomarcaraballorodriguez6224
may as well ask for infinite strength... the quirk is not a wishing machine it has his limits we don't know exactly where are the limits but pretty sure you are asking for to much.
@@Yun1ck yes especially when star can't replicate ofa strength of all might
Are we ignoring the obvious here? If Shigaraki takes the whole of OfA, there may be an extra vestige that goes with it. Thats right, a partial vestige of Deku will likely go to him if not a whole one. The battle will entirely shift to an internal one as the vestiges battle AfO and Deku reaches out to the one part of Shigaraki that wants to be saved.
Yeah I agree this will most likely end up happening . It’s the most deku way to stop shi too
@@LU2LOSTyeah
he wont be fully formed because he is still alive just like in the sports festival deku couldnt see all might
+shigaraki isn't quirkless, meaning the physical strain will be much higher
That's right...and we'll find out it was his vestige telling the story about how he became #1 all along
Deku making a new order after defeating shig.
I wonder if he could make a new order to erase everyone’s quirks
@@tweetttt7670why would he do that
@@tweetttt7670 Hmm for such a thing he would need to know alot of name of individuals.
But at this rate don't see it happening. Sure it could evolve to a higher degree where such a thing is possible.
Maybe in time there will be a solution for it but otherwise imagine new environments being made from quirks.
@@novaruby3980 quirks aren’t good for society
It kinda of would makes sense for deku to have a secret quirk because all for one didn't know his Borther had a quick until he killed him
If Midoriya does save Tenko, I'd be cute to see it as lil kid versions with Midoriya saying 'you wanna play heroes?' with a big smile, like when he helped Bakugo with the 'are you alright' flashback
Deku isn't going to be Quirkless, he's just going to lose the additional quirks of the previous users.
And One For All will still be there, but New Order will take up the rest of its space! 👏🏽
True, considering the vestige of Star I'm gonna assume that after all the quirks have been stolen he will obtain a new order alongside the physical enchantment of ofa. This makes sense because the last order Star gave was for multiple quirks to rebel against each other, so for him to obtain her quirk after losing all of his extra quirks and letting go of ofa makes sense. Im not sure why else she would have been in the vestige world but regardless her quirk would be op
@@CJforever958 Her last order was for New order to rebel against other quirks. The quirk is still doing just that by pointing fellow rebels in the direction of a weak point. I don't think one for all and New order can co-exist. What I think is more likely, is that New order will use up its last dregs of life to restore Deku to full health and let his body withstand one for all at full power. That way, Deku will be able to stay in the fight, even after losing Blackwhip.
@@requiemempire6637 I think Blackwhip is going to stay, Horikoshi loves Spiderman too much to let it go. Plus it seems like the best quirk to keep in conjunction with the raw power from OfA because it's seemingly capable of coating Dekus muscle fibers down to the molecular level, nullifying the damage OfA wreaks on his body. That and it's just really cool, by itself it would make anyone the top 3 hero right next to best jeanist, potentially higher.
@@samuelsoliday4381 I think what will happen is that they'll fuse togther, so that it doesn't count as a separate quirk.
I Remember when Most People in the early days of the toxic fandom used to Hate Izuku midoriya calling him a bland Shonen/Anime New protagonist of this generation but after everything he's been through with his development going from Zero to Hero even in the Movies and OVAs since they're connected and canon especially during the Dark Deku vigilante Arc, Now People are starting to Love him, I don't know how Izuku is still gonna save tomura with the talk no jutsu because maybe he'll pull something out of Avatar with him giving away OFA with the past users especially nana shimura to help save tomura too.
I'm personally of the opposite opinion
I thought he had a lot of charm originally, and recently became a bland shonen protagonist
But I respect your opinion though
Yeah people just wanted another badass, but instead got a good story with character development
@@mrp1zz492 I really felt like we got the opposite
the recent arcs feel like "Look how badass Deku is now" rather than the story many people fell in love with
Don’t get it twisted bro he doesn’t have the talk no jutsu he has yap for all
Deku is going to die. I thought that was common knowledge
The aspect of the conflict I enjoy between Shiguraki and Midoria, it's not just a physical clash. It's also a conflict of ideology, morals, mettle, a philosophical fight as well.
Yessir. I appreciate fans who actually appreciate the layered writing and sophisticated social criticisms that can be extrapolated into real world contexts.
Its such a nuisance when people assume im enjoying animated fights like a small child simply because of the action sounds and violence 🙄
That stuff is cool dont get me wrong, but without at least some intelligently placed themes, moral conundrums and such serving as the foundation for the fight scenes i enjoy the most, they just wouldn't be enjoyable.
@darksage2233
He wanted to be a Hero, so an easy answer would be to join UA to be one anyway, although I don't think UA would accept from not his lack of quirk but the very dangerous situations the students are put in (under supervision) and compound that with Midoria's exceptional lack of experience and lack of ability to do anything whilst in those situations.
So, I think Midoria would have a regular job, no super hero career (not even as a sidekick, but his skill in analysing could have been used), and may have died in one of the many catastrophies brought on by the many villains, All Might would choose a successor from UA, I don't think he or his mother would end up in contact with AfO because Midoria has a strong moral compass which would steer him away from taking those avenues, even if his mother would (out of desperation or whatever).
I honestly have no idea how to feel about this, on the one hand, it does seem pretty cool for Deku to have New Order, but on the other hand, I’d like for Deku to still have OFA, but… I really don’t know
What If It’s A OFA Version Of New Order
@@Yvng_Zy Like OFA getting fused with New Order?
@@blueranger7107 So imposing a rule the merges the quirks together. Hmm intriguing.
I can already imagine the possibilities especially if the abilities are boosted.
I can picture Izuku copying black hole, erasure, and other quirks he has seen.
Imagine if he copies Kota's quirk like the time he distracted Muscular it will help him against Shigaraki. Who can decay matter.
@@Yvng_Zy Despite losing the other quirks, that would practically make Izuku a god.
The only way for Deku to pull this off with His friends is if he uses both abilities at the same time one inside one out this is probably the way there going and the writer also said he loves Star Wars to the point many characters and parts of the story take up after it I think this is kinda like Star Wars first movie I believe he’s gonna turn him good and some new Villains stronger then both of them will come out so he’ll have to regain One for All and and New order and also NO is kinda what he’s been doing the hole time so I think it’s gonna happen if the writers didn’t mess up by adding her so late to where she didn’t have any character development then yeah I’d say she wasn’t coming back but MH write is pretty good at fixing problems plot wholes and that was a major one
Knowing Plot Armour the chances of this theory being real is high
I think it would be super cool to see deku use new order, also hearing deku has to give shigaraki one for all reminds me of kung fu panda 3 when po gave Kai his chi, also I feel like deku may also get all for one, also I feel like shigaraki may also have the quirks of his family members.
If he got All for One wouldn't he most likely die? Shigaraki went through an extremely long process just to get ready for it. Deku has trained for the power of One for All but I don't think his body could handle All for One's sheer amount of quirks.
@@mrp1zz492The core is stronger
@@Jordan-r5vCall me dumb or crazy and 🤒 I'll accept it. Aside from more questions raised 🤚🙌🙌🤚 from battle and recent stuff with ofa and sig think the quirk singularity also a villain or that to much.
@@mrp1zz492Shigeraki didn't do the same core training. Gamer bod. I mean, I know they trained against Gigantomachia, but they weren't doing it to build his mass, it was to force his quirk to evolve. So I'm pretty sure Deku could handle AFO. The other benefit is that he might be able to then house AFOs and consciousness within him in order to remove his influence from Shigeraki. Or maybe extract all of Shigeraki's traumatic memories. The other possibility is that he uses New Order to take OFA and Shigeraki's decay away which would save the day, but possibly kill Deku in the process, but then if he made one of the rules for NWO "My body will not take damage from my quirks", he'd be all set.
He'd then probably make a rule that "nothing can ever transfer or copy my quirks under any circumstances" to make sure no one else ever steals them.
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I know so many people say he is not going to be quirkless, but if it becomes that way I think it could be a seriously amazing moment. Even quirkless, he becomes the biggest hero the earth has and embodies what a true hero is. Someone who does the right thing no matter what...
“If tenko is still in shigaraki, he will take back control of his body” deku should use new order for that.
“As long as people stand up too save each other someone will inherit that will of heroism.“
Just a thought
"While it is only a small ember someone can still cultivate it to give to another. That one spark can bring out the best in another."
My reply to said thought
New order was talking to the vestige of all might. That's why almight heard from her and was in on the vestiges convo. Deku plans to give up the other quirks and hold onto all for one by itself
nah, he'll also hold onto black whip since the other vestiges know it'll keep him alive while they go into Shigaraki and rip into him mentally from the inside
Hopefully, when the battle ends, Deku will still have One For All and will only lose Danger sense and Gearshift. But it would also be cool if he somehow received the New Order Quirk!
I feel like Nanas' quirk will have to be taken/destroyed aswell
Maybe like using new order to allow OFA and NO to co-inside within the same body?
Personally I think Deku’s quirk was super op. But it couldn’t manifest fully. But since it’s been one for all its been growing stronger and stronger. To the point where it’s something he can use.
Deku is refelecting on his life in the anime he's techinically the greatest hero
3:11 says this like he wrote the manga.
He has the power of friendship.
Deku gaining New Order is just like him gaining OFA, but without the DNA part. I admit it is out of left field, but it makes so much sense. I mean, think about it. Stars and Stripes only left one order in place when she still has two spaces available. The whole part of her possibly blessing the current OFA user with this quirk if OFA is ever taken, does make sense due to her no longer needing to fully use her quirk when she was dying. Hence the reason her vestige never left and showed up when the Fourth User was taken away from OFA. If you truly stop and think about it, it shouldn't surprise you that this could've ever happened seeing she knew about All Might and OFA's secret once she became the #1 Hero of the USA.
What about after the fight? Can't Deku use New Order and kinda swap it back for One For All. After everything that's happened, I don't think he'll wanna be apart from OFA.
True! But what if the order is he can have new order and ofa with no issues
I mean.. Bro can use one rule for him to be able to retain all quirks his body has ever used. Then he can have another rule to do whatever the hell he wants, assuming he won't need that extra rule to make his body suitable for all the quirks.
@@AipomBTW I can see why AFO wanted to deal with her. Well if that's the case then bo need to worry about him being quirkless.
This is an AWESOME series! The complexity is so well thought out and gives us so much to think about and chew on, it is a TRUE pleasure!
OFA and New Order on his Arsenal
Deku will be Unstoppable
I feel like if deku were to have a natural born quirk it would be a quirk mutation like eri, also if he had his own quirk I feel like his power would be kinda like Steven universe, since he wants to help and save people a quirk that can heal and protect people would be the kind of power he would have.
“everytime that shigaraki moves he explosively shits his pants”
Did you guys see the trailer for the new movie? It looks amazing!
Yeah I saw it
bro when it will come out?
@@Merc4rio91 August-
YEAAAAAAAAAAH Boiiiiiiiiiii
@@Merc4rio91really its gonne be october for everyone else
Getting new order will be dope... Deku losing ofa will be tough but if he can find a way to replicate other quirks through his knowledge of it will be OP by way of New Order...
I honestly feel the best course of action is, as you said, the quirk transfer works both ways. As OFA is taken by Shigaraki, the quirks begin transferring quirks to Deku, namely the regeneration, augmented strength and search. Without augmented strength his body can't handle the power of OFA and without regeneration, the parts of his body that get destroyed stay that way.
Just my thoughts
Really, I'm viewing Deku as a true villian now. He keeps dicking around with AFO who is responsible for the deaths of many and threatens the world...just to maintain his personal code/worldview.
I like that. It would make the whole introducing star and stripe in the first place mean something. Because how it stands she was just filler because except losing a few quirks all it did was to show how powerful shigarki was which is lame trope in anime when a character is just a body to show off someones abilities on.
No one does these MHA vids better than theeee PLOT ARMOR
i wish he would be like after the final war he would make a rule that after the war ends he gets one for all back and the quirk order becomes apart of one for all and it doesnt damage his body/kill him
It really does sound like One For All would completely get lost. At first I thought that it was only each quirk stored within but then I remember that Yoichi could disappear as well. That does make me wonder what happens to that realm of vestiges. Will that vanish as well?
Another thing to think about is how that'll leave All Might because he didn't a trace of him in this quirk. He only got to use the raw power aspect whike Midoriya got to use that alongside everyone else's quirks. I also realize something else. It also seems that the quirks that are vanishing are those that belong to their original owner but with that logic, i recall that Yoichi's original quirk is being able to pass it onto others. That makes me question the fate of the Stockpiling Quirk which belonged to none of them since it was a quirk given by All For One.
If that Quirk still remains, then it starts to sound more like OfA isn't completely gone. It is just getting reset, returned to a blank slate or rather, it underwent a factory reset. If New Order is being given to Deku, then... Now that's an interesting thought to speculate on. Of course, this depends on what Horikochi will write. I do think Deku can still be a Hero at this point if he does go with this.
Stockpiling Quirk + New Order
This just my opinion so feel free to take it or leave it. In the final fight with all for one, Deku injected all of the previous users into All for one. This in turn made his body fall apart just like All Might said would happen If he gave OFA to Deku before his body was ready. This includes the AFO younger brother (I refuse to butcher the spelling). This means that all quirks including the stock piling quirk is gone. Because without passing the stock piling quirk he is just passing the other user's vestiges and their quirks which wouldn't have the same effect on AFO. This was the purpose for OFA, to take out AFO. From a story perspective it wouldn't make sense for the quirk to still be viable in any way. This is of course without mentioning the fact that AFO brother told Deku that he would be the final wielder of OFA.
As for all might not being able to use all the previous quirks, this is pretty much left to almost pure speculation. At one point one of the vestiges told Deku that he was almost like a chosen one, and that circumstances seemingly lined up for him to be the one to "complete" OFA. Personally, I think All Might had a secret quirk that even he or the vestiges didn't know about. It's more than a little weird that he could use 100% of OFA out the gate since in flash backs we have seen of before he had the quirk, he was a similar size to Deku. I think he had a quirk that allowed his body to store vast amounts of power and release it. Thats why he was the strongest user. He had a complementary quirk to OFA. OFA gave him the power and his quirk allowed his body to store and then use it. This is why when he does transform or is having trouble maintaining his muscle form you see a good amount of steam. It's his body releasing what it can't hold. No other character in the entire show can transform like that without a quirk. He is even able to do this to some degree after the embers of OFA have left him. It's just too much of a physical change to right off as "flexing" like he said. Sorry, that topic is a bit of a sore subject for me. I digress. He never needed the other quirks. He had all the strength he needed in the raw power of OFA.
OFA is gone but what was said in this video is possible. I feel it's unlikely, but not impossible. I would like to see Deku with a quirk of some kind and still rise to that #1 hero spot with that quirk, but it this is how he ends his hero career than that a fine way to do it. There are rumors floating around that the story will continue without Deku. If that happens then I will read/watch it. But it will feel like starting a new Manga or anime. I know people complain about Deku, but I love his story and his growth. If he leaves the story, it won't be the same story to me. Not saying it won't be good. I'm just saying it won't be MHA.
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Allmight felt a connection to his vestage self recently. I don't know if deku will get new order, I don't think that would be necessary. Deku will have a vestage move to AFO with Yoichi. As OFA is wreaking havoc in AFO shiggy's body collapses. Quirks freaking out left and right now one can get close. Deku feeling something going on in AFO starts meditating and he's in the middle of a battle field shiggy and AFO against all of OFA, except whisp-might. Battle goes on a while, and when he's needed most all we get is an apology, and the words. "I AM HERE!!!" deku and Allmight whoop some ass tag team style. Deku switches off tag partners borrowing their quirks while he does cuz why not.
If only right...
I haven't been keeping up lately but here goes. I'm going to go on a limb and say to save Shigaraki, Deku actually does have to give One for all to him because that would come full circle with the origin of why the two powers fight. Somehow it will make both powers cancel out and disperse from him, causing him to be saved from the decay quirk and thus causing Shiggy to turn a new leaf due to Deku's sacrifice. He would then probably have his actual quirk that I still speculate was stolen develop or comeback in a sense.
6:22 Wait so what you’re saying is…
Tomura Shigaraki’s greatest weakness is….
*EMOTIONAL DAMAGE*
Hero Complex confirmed
I honestly feel that deku will keep one for all but loose the other vestiges but get new order since there will be 7 new slots open and that will be what lets deku keep up with shigi
Great analysis of MHA I really hope Deku doesn’t become quirkless
It might seem crazy what I’m boatta say…
Whos gonna tell him 😢
New order i can make infinite orders new order i cant have my quirk taken new order i can use every quirk broken af💀 1:48
New Order in the hands of Deku will be Godly he could use it in incredible ways
This was my theory from when the fight first started which i was posting in almost every mha review on this channel and others 😂. Its starting to look like it might actually come true because why else would the bring back new order after shigaraki gave it away? Since its revealed shigaraki can take dekus quirk albeit one at a time it looks like ofa will be lost at the end and deku might get new order as a replacement. People complaining about this are dumb. Deku would still be able to use his ofa quirks by replicating it using new order and on top of that he will be able to relicate the abilities of every hero he has ever studied using new order. He'd basically be able to use it better than stars and stripes could because he studied every hero that he looked upto and admired whereas stars and stripes only studied all might which is why she only use to replicate his strength.
My thought is what if he only steals a piece of the quirk an new order mixes in an replaces the rest of the quirk deku lost so he's gotten an even more amazing version of one for all so he can still technically have 2 but it mixes into it instead over filling the cup that is deku an killing him from having multiple quirks.
Deku being the world’s greatest hero and also being quirkless would be an interesting reversal of the first chapter where all might says that he cannot be a hero without a quirk and physically changes Deku in order to fit into society’s ideals of a hero instead of recognizing the greatness already within him. During the sports festival and the fight training against iida and bakugo, he made a lot of impressive moves without using his quirk.
I do genuinely like this idea given how wasted New Order was. But we did see her try to give the order to be resistant to Decay as she was touched. Though it failed. That was the second order.
More than likely its a fragment of New Order that survived.
Star is unlikely to know all these fetails of OFA prior to being killed. So no such order would likely be possible anyway.
Most likely once Tenko is actually saved. He'll give OFA back to Deku.
I really hope so, because watching Deku with all these abilities makes him Cool and OP
I really hope so, because watching Deku with all these abilities makes him Cool and OP
I've always find it interesting that Shigaraki's name is "Tomura" (弔) which meant "Mourning" possibly referring to mourning the death of "Tenko"'s childhood/life. Meaning, Tomura's entire life is mourning for the death of his former self. However, if Tenko's life is saved by Deku then there is no need for "mourning". I hope in the last moment, Tomura (as a separate entity) sacrifice himself to destroy All for One and say something like "Now my job is to mourn for someone who should be long dead". It would be the first and last "hero" move he does and also to mourn his own life BUT after completing his wish of being a hero as once a part of Tenko.
If deku gets new order i will eat a toaster
Ngl, I think he's probably just gonna keep Float, Fa-Jin, Black Whip, and smoke screen assuming that those quirks don't go slong with one for all.
Deku's new order will be
His body won't be break no matter how much impact he put in his hands
Deku truly has a quirk a very powerful one that most people already knows
Plot armour
I hope that by the end of all this, Deku will regain all of his quirks from One For All as seen in Heroes rising, where Deku gives his quirks and then regains it at the end. One for All is just the best, and I really don't want Deku to lose any of it.
Couldn’t the solution be something like;
Rule 1; quirks can revolt
Rule 2; if additional quirks are added, transfer all the existing quirks to the new user.
Shiguraki would be quirkless and the battle is over.
I haven't read a chapter in over a year. From what I'm hearing, the manga just keeps getting crazier and crazier.
Well if Horokoshi is ever rushed to end the series.... we'll see Deku do it XD
Deku: You know what, you are rushing me too much and as much as I want to save you... this is goodbye old chum.
Shigaraki: What?
Deku: WORLD OF HURT!!!! **Causes Shiga red mist**
Goated video…shits never getting animated but I can’t imagine deku with new order…nobody’s touching him at that point, he’ll be the strongest in history
What if...... New Order makes Deku and Shigaraki switch bodies after all the quirks have been taken?
Actually, it makes sense for Deku to loose OFA once Shigaraki is dead... There is no reason left to keep it
Deku's real quirk is the power to replicate any other quirks he owns
So we just saw Black Whip cut through Tomura’s arm, which makes Himeko’s knife that much more egregious
All Might was the strongest character with no other person who could physically challenge him for 40 years. Tomura has been stated to be on par with him physically and durably and Deku is even stronger than them
Black Whip was able to restrain the second most powerful being, durable enough to withstand a beating from him and even main him.
Yet this Quirk that has been super amped by the most powerful Quirk in the world, One for All, was able to be cut by a simple knife.
That knife just breaks the entire power scaling of the series.
something interesting is new order might be able to make quirks. Like perment one.Deku is the person who understands the most about quirks of one for all so its not impossible that he could do some creative rule changes to either get one for all again or use its power
3:09 Except Star didn’t know what One for All was when she died. The nature of the Quirk was still kept a secret among Japan’s pro heroes.
Deku could reach out his hand to shigaraki, while he is fighting the vestages, and say something like "tenko shimura. Let me save you". Tenko would be reachable (unlike before) because of the vestages, and new order will do the rest.
Happy End 🤯
i feel like the vestiges of the OfA will be a mirror of how Tenko remembers his family holding him back, by reaching out to lift him up from the shadows, with his Nana in the middle
"I won't allow anyone named Shigaraki to wield the Power of All for One... But I believe in the dream of Shimura Tenko... If you ever needed help BE the Help you wished arrived when you've most needed it... If you're gonna try and kill me then I'd only live on in you... or I could teach you how to not die from this power, though Controlling All For One is probably your biggest issue... With this Power I will make sure that the will of
So basically deku has to use talk no jutsu on tenko when he gains control over his body
new order is literally just being that one kid at recess
*shoots with laser gun*
"I have invisible energy armor that keeps me safe from lasers"
Deku will never be quirkless, cause his quirk is never giving up!
That's a really good theory tbh. Probably the best I've heard yet.
I'm 100% with the 2nd and 3rd users on why they disapproved of Deku. At this point Shigaraki is not someone who can or SHOULD be saved, and it's this mindset of Deku's that he can't and WON'T stop at saving any/everyone that he can that has gotten countless lives taken and will likely end with his own death.
I also have to massively disagree on just killing Shigaraki not doing anything to change the status quo. Some villains just can't and don't deserve to be saved, like All For One for example. He just has to be killed no ifs, ands or buts about it if people want society to thrive. The same is to be said for Tomura. While it would be GREAT to save Tenko, it's just not possible at this point and Deku needs to STOP fucking risking so many lives on the CHANCE that they're able to save Tenko.
New Orders 2 rules when Deku acquires it: 1) Shig returns to the little boy he burried. 2) N.O. can replicate all previously owned quirks. Hes saves Shiguraki and keeps his powers from OFA
It’s crazy that with a couple pages he could cook something like this up
I can see that, tbh itd be a nice way to say "New order, new beginnings"
i hope deku doesn’t become quirkless after the fight he deserves to be left with something
what i am expecting is that deku loses one for all, but because of the link he can go inside. he breaks intot he child self and at that time grabs all the quirks that are inside Shigaraki. all those people are inside shigaraki, but deku has the power of heart. Deku will take all that shigaraki has and become the singularity. shigaraki will have no quirks. he will have all of one and one for all. becoming the one.
Deku has become Kakashi.
What if~
Shiggi actually gets OFA leaving deku very weak and useless.
Then hell breaks loose, and makes shiggi rampage nearly destroying everything due to his mental state because of the vestiges.
All of Dekus friends goes to the main battlefield and attempts to hold shiggi down.
One by one everyone goes down struggling and there is deku feeling useless getting flashbacks from where bakugo bullies him.
Then when ochako and bakugo goes down. Deku snaps, unlocking his actual quirk that he got from his parents. This quirk could overwhelm shiggi thinking that he already stole everything and somehow deku actually got what he needs.
It could be a quirk evolution that could borrow his friends quirks by passing their energy. Sort of like the spirit bomb from Dragon Ball.
~this could be a good opportunity to introduce dekus father
Here is what I think is going to happen. Now this is something I think will happen at the end of the battle not the end of the show. I think Deku will transfer one for all and the rest of his quirks to Shigaraki and obviously saving him. If I remember correctly Deku is badly injured from the battle. Now I may have this part wrong but blackwhip is what is keeping Deku alive right now? If that is the case, Deku will end up giving blackwhip to shigaraki last and will end up dying in battle with his friends by his side. However, I think this is where Eri comes into play and reverses Deku’s injuries and saves him. As for Deku’s power, as much as I don’t want him to end up quirckless seems like that is going to happen. It would make his character come to full circle and show the world that he truly is the greatest hero who is willing to sacrifice everything. As for the new world order power, I think it could be a possibility that Deku ends up with this. I honestly would be good with that. It breaks my heart to see him quirckless again because one of the joys for me watching the show was watching Deku become stronger and becoming a hero. But I guess we will see what happens.
i think deku is only gonna lose the additonal powers in his ofa, he will probably just be like all might, all might's ofa does not contain ligutning or even those black whips deku would probably have muscle form like all might
BEst part is, if I'm not wrong, there is a possibility that Deku can also regain OFA... once Tenko gains his place in the mess of confusion that is Tomura.
Deku is not getting new order. It was destroyed.
Then why is she sill here? The quirks aren't destroyed they are weakened.
Unless, It wasn't. The Audience believes it was destroyed, It could easily be written stars and stripe used her 2nd rule and made it so upon certain conditions her quirk would be transferred.
@@AipomBTW if it not I’ll be ok with deku getting it
Didn’t Star already made two rules before she died? • I will not decay (she decayed anyway losing New Order) and New Order rebels against other Quirk?
@@jonathonswift7792 no, she used 1. 1st one was do not decay, she overrid that one to be her quirk rebels against other quirks. She still kept her 2nd rule which is and always was I want to be in the image of all might. Without it, she would be a pretty average looking person, but considering she was going to die anyway, she could.l've over rid her 2nd rule to be, If OFA is stolen, give the quirk to them.
Tl;dr: She didn't use the 2nd rule just kept replacing the 1st one.
horikoshi taking notes from plot armour videos XD
All of this hinges on New Order magically coming to Deku for no reason from the random guy that Shigaraki forced it on
Hmm it all depends on the second rule so a part of her is inside Shigaraki in wait for something.
Wait, Deku’s mom has telepathy on the small scale. If AFO was Deku’s dad, his quirk might just be something called “Quirk Manipulation”. OFA (the quirk) originally mixed 2 powers together instead of breaking the 1st’s brain from the strain. I’m thinking the same phenomenon might occur while the Shigaraki brothers are throwing hands in the vestige world, and a OFA boosted quirk that appears from within Deku may just be the thing to take every quirk from every person, fixing society.
New order will just act as one for all for deku with the first order and he’ll just have the second order as a backup
I can’t wait to see AfO’s vestige lose his shit again when he sees Kudo’s vestige leading the charge against him once more
New Order transfers to the one who can save Tenko Shimura? Perhaps that was the rule Star set on her quirk. She probably even did it from the Vestige world within All For One in the exact second Tomura touched Deku to take Danger Sense. New Order being set this way means Star was aware that Quirk Transference of One For All will be what it would take to save Tenko. She also knows the world can't be without a hero of Allmight's caliber, so in that moment she would have had everything she needed to decide to use her New Order to transfer not to Deku directly, but rather to "The one who saves Tenko Shimura from All For One and Tomura Shigaraki". She could specifically specify Deku by name with her quirk and even know to do so through the AFO/OFA connection. She probably even amplified it to speak to Allmigh to inform him of all this. Star and Stripe is the American number one hero, so it would make sense she'd be calculated and highly skilled enough to plan to this extent.
Like I said before, he's getting his own quirk like all might and the muscles. It's probably the green energy.
I can see shimura tenko/shigaraki being the dark horse to save the heroes from AFO. IF shigaraki gets OFA, I can see it being the catalyst for awakening Tenko to being the hero he dreamed of and ending AFO once-and-for-all. His power of Decay is a real counter and threat to AFO, as in he can destroy the AFO and OFA.
Theoretically as long as OFA exist, AFO will always be around because of the vestige world. So both of these quirks have to disappear in the end, it would also tie up the knot of all the previous user finally being "free" and moving on.
Deku getting NWO would be a really nice twist keep the story of deku being the number 1 hero in the future, but i would rather the declared #1 hero being quirkless in the end. It would drive home the point, you maybe powerless but you can still be great.
would prefer quirkless deku, imagine the greatest super hero ever to grace hero society had no quirk, but by influence stopped villainy and saved everyone for good. plus, being quirkless means nothing when there are so many gadgets that are as strong as quirks (aizawa scarf, hawks visor) or that can just straight up replicate quirks entirely
After he wins he should give everyone who lost their quirks them back with new order. Would be good to see hawks flying about again.
Deku is mad quirkless
For my theory Original one for all will remain in deku and get merged with new order + black wipe , or else he can regain all of quirk shigaraki holds at the time.
When my gf says ILY : 👌🏻
When slice of otaku says ILY : ✨✨✨✨
I love when fandoms psycho analyze
Nana made the only choice she could, AFO wouldve just hunted her and her son down if she had quit heroism.
With New Order, wouldn't Deku be able to make a pseudo OFA? He could literally just say, I have my quirks from OFA, and boom, nothing's changed.
That’s dope instead of using 1 rule constantly for super strength, his main rule can be regeneration, RCT style or even super sturdiness
I can already see all the TikTok deku vs debates
Also yall forget that Eri and Rewind is going to come into play at the last moment.
"One For All" is an Ideology to use ones power for all and not one like "All For One" rather than a quirk to be used. I believe the vestiges are the wills left behind in the quirks from its previous user rather than the quirk itself. Once their wills have been fulfilled they can truly "Pass On" their quirk and the vestige disappears. Take the first quirk given to One For All for example. The first quirk gained by One For All isn't Gear Shift but Stockpile, raising the question on were his vestige is. Stockpile was given in a time were people gave up their quirks to All For One willingly with the wish to become normal, meaning they most likely gave their quirk to become normal, that making their wish fulfilled, meaning no vestige in the quirk. This is also backed up by how quirks are capable of rebelling inside their host, as the host is directly going against their will making it harder to control.