Probably the best tutorial out here,, the ones where they use epoxy.. eventually gets brittle and brake apart... so really nice work and idea, thanks fro posting.
Great tip Bob. I will be doing that myself. Thanks. By the way I found some 4" belts in a locker that I purchased in about 1972. I obviously forgot about them. Tried one and yes broke immediately. I will be repairing them. Thanks.
You already have the belts, so that makes the job easy. Hopefully, they are the right size then there is no custom cutting and measuring. Make sure you use good contact cement and give it plenty of time to clamp and dry in a heated environment. You will see first hand it is a slow process.
This video rocks🤘🤘🤘💪💪💪💪. Just recently I pulled out my deta sander that I have not uses in years. It has 4" x 36" belts. I ended up destroying two belts. At first I thought the sander was causing the damaged. It did not accord to me that the belts have a shelf life. Thanks👍👍👍.
Just picked up 50 new approx 54 inch belts for $6 at a yard sale, good brand, but way too big for my machine. I'll give your method a try tomorrow and also try the Iron on patch method too.
I made one years ago, and when It broke I looked closely at it. The glue held well and the tyvek ripped at the seam. The idea is to double up the tyvek so it lasts longer. I have had pretty good results with this method, but it takes a while to get the belts done due to the glue dry time, so it is a pain. Now if you need a belt that is an odd size this can work out well for you. Belts are cheaper on Amazon then they are at the big box stores.
Thanks for this! I have a bundle of a dozen or so belts that I pulled one from recently, and it broke within about 30 seconds. Pulled another one, same thing. I didn’t know that these have a shelf life though. I’m going to use your method to reinforce the rest of them. I’m glad I didn’t throw them away!
The dry time is very important. After being clamped for a while I put mine on the vents in my house for a day or so. If they are not completely dry the glue is rubbery and slippery. Thanks for the comment.
Like everything here EXCEPT the angle you cut.. If you look at sanding drums, which are constantly bent into a round tube, the angle is pretty steep, and it's usually a thin strip that wraps around at least twice for each drum.. By using this formula instead, you'll have much stronger seams: You had a 4 inch leftover piece for making 2 belts out of one, so add 2 inches(or 4 if making 2 belts at once). Having those small waste triangles comes in handy, glue them to dull multitool blades, wood scraps, or metal to get into tight spots. The longer the seam, the stronger the joint. I kept time for 2 belts each way. BOTH of the 1 inch over seams broke, and I'm still running the 4 inch over belts, 5+ hours each. Even a nail tear didn't break the seam.
Nice tip! Thanks! I ordered some 3M 1357 Neoprene based contact cement from McMaster for a project once and it has since become my goto contact cement... Give it a try when your can runs out... er more likely dries out hehe
Hey mate buggered if I know what I am doing wrong I have followed your instructions but keep having failures with finger grits any help would be great thanks David
Awesome! I've got an odd size old table top belt sander and THIS Fixes my fitment issue! I'm just going to whack off the excess and make the belts I have work!! Awesome! Awesome! Cheers my Friend! Zip~ Oh...What about using the stranded packing tape in lieu of the Tyvek?
This fix will work for your sanding belt, but you need to give it clamp pressure and time to dry (several days). I believe Tyvek is stronger than packing tape, but you can give it a shot.
Here's a trick that will double the life out of your sand paper belts or disc work on any sandpaper. Grab a stick of solid rubber and with the sander running so the disc or belt is spinning press the rubber until the belt becomes unclogged. This will unclog any sandpaper works amazing, I was taught this trick when I was an apprentice cabinet maker. Not sure where you get the stick of solid rubber from. You might be able to use rubber from an old tire. Or maybe an eraser.
I never understand why people cut all the way down a fabric belt, you just tear it. It takes less than a second and it's a perfectly straight cut and you didn't ruin your scissors.
haha was just what I was going to say... Its all I ever do for my 1" wide machine... a 6" belt is waaaaay cheaper than 6, 1" belts! Just a little cut with a utility knife then tear through the length. Cant say I have ever tried building different length belts tho, Im sure I will try this some time, thanks doublewide6!
there is a roll of ,( i think it's for splicing rubber roof together , or to en rigid ate' concrete seams), 6' wide black mesh, it kinda looked like really thin carbon fiber b4 you put the resin on it, the label is long gone so?, ,,,,, i used it with an epoxy to repair a bumper on an 06 mustang, they have to be able to flex and staill not come apart at the seam and it's still holding paint , no cracks, anyway, if you put a strip of that down first , then the rest of your process, it probably will hold for years, it was in the last isle at depot, with tie bar and all that shit, i know it was less than $5 for about 60'
i paint cars, so all my shoot suits are made from tyvek material, i never thought to use them as tie strips, awesome, no i don't use a belt sander on cars, i am ( trying to ) make guitars at home
Hehehe. Well you can measure an inch with one good eye. An 1" 1/2 would take a good eye and a 1/2. Clearly more work. Well clearly if you have one good eye.
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Thank you! I have a dozen broken belts and I'm going to try this method. 👍
Probably the best tutorial out here,, the ones where they use epoxy.. eventually gets brittle and brake apart... so really nice work and idea, thanks fro posting.
You are right the epoxy does not hold up. It gets too stiff and when the belt makes a tight radius it will crack. You need a flexible glue.
Great tip Bob. I will be doing that myself. Thanks. By the way I found some 4" belts in a locker that I purchased in about 1972. I obviously forgot about them. Tried one and yes broke immediately. I will be repairing them. Thanks.
You already have the belts, so that makes the job easy. Hopefully, they are the right size then there is no custom cutting and measuring. Make sure you use good contact cement and give it plenty of time to clamp and dry in a heated environment. You will see first hand it is a slow process.
You can also use weedblock as yourr backer. Also make certain to wrap your clamp boards in saran wrap or wax paper for easy release.
Well done. Very nice explanation. Thanks, Elmer
Thanks for sharing. Gonna give it a try. The contact cement and the priority mail bags should work great. I got a lot of that in my shop.
Well done. Good lesson. Thanks Elmer
This video rocks🤘🤘🤘💪💪💪💪. Just recently I pulled out my deta sander that I have not uses in years. It has 4" x 36" belts. I ended up destroying two belts. At first I thought the sander was causing the damaged. It did not accord to me that the belts have a shelf life. Thanks👍👍👍.
Great tip Bob, I never thought of making my own belts on my mini belt sander as they are hard to get. I'll be giving this a go.
Give it a shot. Just make sure the glue is cured. Several days for it to be right.
Just picked up 50 new approx 54 inch belts for $6 at a yard sale, good brand, but way too big for my machine. I'll give your method a try tomorrow and also try the Iron on patch method too.
Wow, I'm surprised the Tyvek would break... I sort of think of Tyvek as being impenetrable! Nice work!
I made one years ago, and when It broke I looked closely at it. The glue held well and the tyvek ripped at the seam. The idea is to double up the tyvek so it lasts longer. I have had pretty good results with this method, but it takes a while to get the belts done due to the glue dry time, so it is a pain. Now if you need a belt that is an odd size this can work out well for you. Belts are cheaper on Amazon then they are at the big box stores.
Thanks for this! I have a bundle of a dozen or so belts that I pulled one from recently, and it broke within about 30 seconds. Pulled another one, same thing. I didn’t know that these have a shelf life though. I’m going to use your method to reinforce the rest of them. I’m glad I didn’t throw them away!
Brilliant. The kicker is to clamp it down in the vise, and to give it time (3 days) to fully cure. Thanks Bob.
The dry time is very important. After being clamped for a while I put mine on the vents in my house for a day or so. If they are not completely dry the glue is rubbery and slippery. Thanks for the comment.
What kind of wood are you sanding that gives sparks?
Like everything here EXCEPT the angle you cut.. If you look at sanding drums, which are constantly bent into a round tube, the angle is pretty steep, and it's usually a thin strip that wraps around at least twice for each drum.. By using this formula instead, you'll have much stronger seams: You had a 4 inch leftover piece for making 2 belts out of one, so add 2 inches(or 4 if making 2 belts at once). Having those small waste triangles comes in handy, glue them to dull multitool blades, wood scraps, or metal to get into tight spots. The longer the seam, the stronger the joint. I kept time for 2 belts each way. BOTH of the 1 inch over seams broke, and I'm still running the 4 inch over belts, 5+ hours each. Even a nail tear didn't break the seam.
Yes the 1in belts are the hardest to do the smaller seams the more pull you have especially in a fast machine
A real lifesaver! Thanks so much!
Nice tip! Thanks! I ordered some 3M 1357 Neoprene based contact cement from McMaster for a project once and it has since become my goto contact cement... Give it a try when your can runs out... er more likely dries out hehe
Any other abrasive require for filament tape joint sand belt ??
Nice tip Bob . Well worth the effort.
Cheers Pete.
Yeah, a little frustrating because I lost some of my footage, and had to refilm. Happy you like it.
Fair play Bob . Still good content.
Hey mate buggered if I know what I am doing wrong I have followed your instructions but keep having failures with finger grits any help would be great thanks David
Do you have a room for the sanding belt making?We developed two machines to be instead of traditional machines.That's very good!
Awesome! I've got an odd size old table top belt sander and THIS Fixes my fitment issue! I'm just going to whack off the excess and make the belts I have work!! Awesome! Awesome! Cheers my Friend! Zip~ Oh...What about using the stranded packing tape in lieu of the Tyvek?
This fix will work for your sanding belt, but you need to give it clamp pressure and time to dry (several days). I believe Tyvek is stronger than packing tape, but you can give it a shot.
Great job, clearly explained, thanks to you, now i find away to save money
I'd give you two thumbs up if I could. Great video DW6!!!
Thanks Man! I can use all the thumbs up I can get.
Here's a trick that will double the life out of your sand paper belts or disc work on any sandpaper.
Grab a stick of solid rubber and with the sander running so the disc or belt is spinning press the rubber until the belt becomes unclogged.
This will unclog any sandpaper works amazing, I was taught this trick when I was an apprentice cabinet maker.
Not sure where you get the stick of solid rubber from. You might be able to use rubber from an old tire. Or maybe an eraser.
I have some abrasive cleaners. I order them online. Work well. By the way the Zircomiam belts are self cleaning really good stuff.
Michael O'Reilly my hand held belt sander is not sanding evenly
Excelente trabajo, Thanks
I never understand why people cut all the way down a fabric belt, you just tear it. It takes less than a second and it's a perfectly straight cut and you didn't ruin your scissors.
haha was just what I was going to say... Its all I ever do for my 1" wide machine... a 6" belt is waaaaay cheaper than 6, 1" belts! Just a little cut with a utility knife then tear through the length. Cant say I have ever tried building different length belts tho, Im sure I will try this some time, thanks doublewide6!
Cutting with scissors actuly sharpen said scissors
Have you not a bevel instead of using a square and measure back?
Thanks Bob I love it. Reuse!!!!
I try to if I can. I picked up one of those hydraulic tables. I'm trying to save my back any way I can.
You will love it. I think you now I put a 3 foot by 2 foot top on it.
Yes, your video helped. I made a top just like you and a ramp. You know what they say the best form of flattery is copying.
I copy your stuff too. Donyboy73, Zippovarga and lots more.
Thank you!
Top tip, DW. Thanks.
Thanks Jim.
there is a roll of ,( i think it's for splicing rubber roof together , or to en rigid ate' concrete seams), 6' wide black mesh, it kinda looked like really thin carbon fiber b4 you put the resin on it, the label is long gone so?, ,,,,, i used it with an epoxy to repair a bumper on an 06 mustang, they have to be able to flex and staill not come apart at the seam and it's still holding paint , no cracks, anyway, if you put a strip of that down first , then the rest of your process, it probably will hold for years, it was in the last isle at depot, with tie bar and all that shit, i know it was less than $5 for about 60'
i paint cars, so all my shoot suits are made from tyvek material, i never thought to use them as tie strips, awesome, no i don't use a belt sander on cars, i am ( trying to ) make guitars at home
Great tip!
Thanks Good to hear from you.
Good tip, thumbs up
Thanks, I can use the thumbs up!
How is it easier to measure an inch than 1-1/2"???
Hehehe. Well you can measure an inch with one good eye.
An 1" 1/2 would take a good eye and a 1/2.
Clearly more work. Well clearly if you have one good eye.
nice job and idea.
Josh, thanks for your support, I have been noticing that you always take the time to comment. I appreciate that. Bob
doublewide6 Repairs LLC I always try and comment when I can, it is one way to be a good RUclips creator, on my videos and others.
Ingenuity at work, perfect!
Thanks!
Thumbs up here too.
Thank you, Thumbs up and comments really help my channel out. Thanks
This does not work..... the Tyvec fiber does not come loose ... it pulls apart . It can't handle the tension stress.
I get depressed seeing people being this cheap