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@Charlie Carroll they are slowly unexisting themselves to be fair - becoming more polarised every year while their currency slowly falters. If they just return the tea from the habour, I'm sure we can come to some sort of deal.
Got to say. This is the best YT documentary series on the Falklands 🇫🇰 You and your team have given respect to the conflict and honoured the courageous soldiers on both sides. You should all be proud.
@@terco1741 ponele que si, lo cual es debatible aun a sabiendas de que el ataque existió... En que cambia la historia? hay que dejar de replicar esta pavada de que "casi ganamos". No, no estuvimos cerca de ganar, honestamente... el 2 de abril, el 21 de mayo, el 25 de mayo, el 8 de junio y en los montes Longdon y Tumbledown las fuerzas Argentinas hicieron una labor muy digna, en casi todo los casos (excepto el 2 de abril) contra fuerzas más modernas, mejor equipadas y superiores en número. Eso es suficiente dignidad. Pretender inventar heroes que no lo son (como el caso de Poltronieri) y exitos incomprobables (como el ataque al Invincible) dándole más prensa que a los heroes reales que hicieron cosas extraordinarias que están documentadas, no suma en nada
@@patrickweissel5241 thanks pat i bet its a lot more than 264 now, war is murder mentally and physically, ive worked with lots of lads who fought there, theres some proper messed up heads out there still to this day,x
I was a Gurkha company commander in this war. There were no units called 1st and 2nd Gurkhas. We were the 1st Bn of the 7th Gurkha Rifles (1/7GR). The detached Company at Goose Green was C Company 1/7GR commanded by me. Hopefully you can amend?
Yeah the 2nd Gurkhas label is a typo, it is meant to say 1st Gurkhas. Tho in hindsight I could probably just have gone with Gurkhas. Sadly no way to amend a video once it has gone live
Although unrelated to The Falklands thread, having never served myself, but living through my Fathers memories, he adored the Gurkha's, training with them in Brunei and Hong Kong. I remember these men in Windsor Barracks about '72-'74. He found a Love of Hot curries, but not to hot though! Through these wonderful people. As a naïve youngster i did ask him, " Why don't the Gurkha's ever get posted to Northern Ireland?" He replied..." Because Son, there would be blood shed "
I've worked in the Falkland Islands twice. The locals absolutely love being associated with the UK. They were so glad of the British Government/Armed Forced help they renamed their main road in capital Stanley to Thatcher Road. Lovely people who speak with a slightly West Country sounding accent.
I've worked for the British Army and they consider the Falklands the worst possible posting. Cyprus is the dream posting and the Falkands are the nightmare. They joke that the Falkands is where you learn whether you fancy penguins, or sheep. They also joke that 'It may be a shithole, but it's OUR shithole.'
@@julianllenas You're out of date there. The recent documentary on Radio 4 about the Falklands highlighted the increasingly diverse population because of the number of children with dual heritage backgrounds. That includes my children's mother, who is of Nigerian background, and my children who are obviously mixed. About 10% of the population is philipino and there are a significant number of black people from Zimbabwe (who were originally clearing land mines but many stayed), and even Jamaica. And of course other countries in South America.
11:49 My dad was part of that attempted counter attack, he was shot in his right arm. Its amazing to me how you described it like him, like a rain of fire. Great video!
"Had to walk dozens of miles" 3 commando brigade in fact walked 80 miles in just 3 days across harsh terrain and in horrendous weather conditions. 3 commando has a competition every year to commemorate this achievement. The Lympstone (Commando Traning Center) to Poole (home of the SBS) race. An 80 mile run conducted over 2 days. It's a day shorter granted, but it's done during the British summer and with a lot less kit.
My calculator tells me that "dozens" is, in fact, the correct number. Another correct number would be "tens". A point made in a book I read by an ex-squaddie or RM Commando about NATO exercises in the '70s always saw American grunts travel in trucks while the BAOR walked. Turned out that was the correct option with the infantry walking across the Falklands and not losing a battle.
@@aaronleverton4221 Yes, I suppose it is! It is a bit ambiguous though. That is an interesting observation. In the Falklands conflict the decision to walk was made after the cargo ship containing, I think 6, Chinnocks was sunk. Goes to show they'll always be a place, and a need, for a robust and highly mobile light infantry force.
I believe it was called "Yomping" Gotta love how the marines and paras complained the whole time but did it anyway, even making up a word in the process. Heros
I was pleasantly surprised when you mentioned the psychological effects of warfare when talking about the total casulties of this conflict. Very often only the dead and physically wounded are mentioned, leaving out mental wounds, which can be just as severe.
Yeah thanks, it was something I wanted to mention. I would have brought up the stats on veteran suicide but it seems the old often quoted stats on the weren’t accurate, at least according to my research
@@patrickweissel5241 Damn. So in this case you can straight up double the numbers when counting total casulties. War does truly brake the minds of men. Let us hope we never have to endure the things these and countless other soldiers have had to go through.
I was one of the crew on the Canberra. After the fighting finished we took all the Argentinian troops back home. The strangest thing was all the Argentinian officers was allowed to keep their side arms ( we was not happy with this, as you can imagine) It was said, for self defence, because of the abuses inflicted on there own troops. Margaret Thatcher made a speech, which was tanoyed to us before we entered Argentina, and a submarine surfaced behind us to calm our fears, as we had no clue as to our reception. Dont forget Argentina claimed to have sunk us a month or so before.
Officers being able to keep their sidearms is standard practice in a surrender though. Its partly an honour thing and partly a command and control thing. The Allies did the same for the Germans in 1944.
Worth mentioning that Lt Col Jones was also posthumously awarded the Victoria Cross. Although his is more controversial, with many commentators arguing his actions could have seriously affected those under his command.
A lot has been said about Lt Col "H" Jones. At the time the negative murmurings were kept quite and his death was used to galvanise the British public behind the war. The questions most often asked are A) why the hell was he spearheading the attack when Sandhurst policy has always been "Your men first, then you sir!" B) Mate? Seriously? Please don't jolly right up to that MG nest with just your bodyguard and a couple of 'tin-hungry Rupert's'. C) Why aren't you giving your Rupert's more free reign? The answer to all three is actually very easy. It's psychological. Jones was always going to charge forward like that, the moment the opportunity came. He was the eldest brother of 3, and "big-brother syndrome" is well known. Had things gone a little differently he would have been remembered like Quentin Smythe VC, or Harry Greenwood DSO or even Private John J. Kelly M.O.H x2. He deserved the VC because he had the VC psychological dysfunction. But it's also that dysfunction that couldn't allow him to let his "little brothers" think too freely and work with their own initiative. I would hope that this little quirk of the brain is far better understood now, and that people who think like that aren't put in a position to (mis)use it?
Ian McKay. What a legend. I served in The Rifles regiment, but I have to admit, if I had learnt more about the Falkands beforehand and heard of Sgt McKay, I may have gone for the Paras. Great series mate.
It's really difficult to overstate how impressive the entire operation was from the Brits. Managing to pull that off whilst so heavily outnumbered in the air, so far away from home is really something
@@garethjames1300 , would you want to attack high ground with heavily armed conscripts, firing high calibre machine guns down at you!?. I'd also like to add that they weren't all conscripts, some were well trained professional Argentine troops!
Arg 90's kid here. So this is what I knew about the war before watching this video. The war was not taught in schools at the time I went. If I asked my father or his friends they would all tell us that it was a mistake and a total one sided anihilation in favour of the british. They did tell us that the only streangth of Argentina was their Airstrikes and their low flight (which I learnt in this series that most bombs didn't detonate, so... I am happy no more people got hurt thanks to that). They would tell us that the british soldiers were lovely, and when Argentinians were captured, they were treated politely, and fed nice food. The thing that was most spoken and that was left out of this series, is the influence of Chile, that sided with the british allowing them to land their aircrafts on their territory and the use of their sea space for their ships. If I had to see the good side of this, is that this was the drop that ended the darkest age of our country, the dicatatorship. Nowdays most people don't really care, ofcourse some grandparents are still upset, but most people weren't even born yet. The only thing, that I find stupid and weird, is that in our political maps, the ones schools use to teach geography for kids, have the falkland isles with a "(Arg.)" next to the name, weather if it's refusal to accept the outcome or it's to conmemorate those who fell, I don't know. Most Argentinians accepted Diego Maradona's hand goal against Engalnd on 86' worldcup as payback.
Excellent video, thanks for posting this. A very clear and concise presentation review of the whole conflict on land, and very well delivered. Well done and thank you.
You can quickly tell who's the good leader in the Argentinian side when the guy on the field has more balls to realize what's going down than the junta in their capital.
As people might expect, at the Falkands museum on the waterfront at Stanley there is a very big section about the 1982 war. It is really fascinating and I spent far longer there than I expected. Plus there's lots of other really interesting stuff in the museum about the Falkands past history and its nature.
Respect to the merchant seamen and women who volunteered on the ships. Great story about the crew of the Norland, a cross channel ferry. Were told they were only going as far as Ascension Island. Next thing they spearheaded the landing at San Carlos dodging Exocets. Not one of them flinched
We didn't have time to flinch, you either cacked it and got on with it, or got killed. In accordance with the Geneva conventions, none of the Merchant vessels were given arms so speed and the navy's flyboys were our only defence.
Honestly as a falklander is think you did an amazing job on this, just one thing at the end you said we rely on britian for defence and our economy, while the the first is true we rely on ourselves when it comes to the economy.
@@matro2 correct, though we also use our own which to be fair is linked to the British pound. what i was referring to is we receiving no funding apart from defence. we make most of our money through fishing, tourism, farming and possibly oil in the future
Genuinely wonderfully surprised at the talk of the mental trauma of the soldiers as a part of the casualties, as well as the detail of the two 17 year olds, children as I would call them, that were killed in that night assault. And I am as well impressed the talk of political repercussions of the war in both countries for better or for worse. Along with the very good graphics, music, and narration typical to your videos.
Damn. This is so insightful. Thanks for making this, I'm from the UK but know little of the detail surrounding the Falklands. Felt the Argentinians fought with honor. Fantastic series.
Very typical of the Gurkhas to say they were robbed of their fight 😂, they’re very proud people and an honour to us Brits to have fighting alongside us
3:50 *speed was of the essence* Time was on the argentine side with winter coming and expecting a backlash in Britain against "maggie's war" There was no time to starve out the argentinians, nor to grind them down to deplete their ammunition. There was also no logistical capability to supply and extended shelling from afar. The loss of the helicopters made the required fast pace advance even more difficult. The surviving Chinook is a touchstone to all the people that know war is as much about supply as about courage. ruclips.net/video/9LNCVpFHeCI/видео.html Equally important, for the argentine junta a prolonged (but contained) war was excellent for the local front. It would justify all problems and scacity. Silence any opposition and allow them to ride the winter. That is why they wanted Menendez to fight as long as possible, for internal political gains. The early re-capture of the South Georgia with the loss of the submarine Santa Fe surely influenced the Junta's decision to leave Menendez without any resupply. Gen Menendez's decision to surrender can be examined, and it will be found the right thing to do.
They could never have supplied Menendez. Keenly aware of the British nuclear subs you just can’t risk a ship full of men against a modern submarine Even less so under carrier air strike As for trying to fly men to Stanley Airport you’d be running a huge risk with an expensive plane full of men with minimal heavy equipment. Even if by some miracle you made it to the tarmac you’d be shot to shit on the runway Any idea of reinforcement was dead the second Belgrano was sunk and was 6ft under in a coffin when the task force got to the Falklands
> Equally important, for the argentine junta a prolonged (but contained) war was excellent for the local front. It would justify all problems and scacity. Silence any opposition and allow them to ride the winter. That is why they wanted Menendez to fight as long as possible, for internal political gains. Good example of that right now is Putin and the Ukraine war. So long as Russia can stay in the fight they can shut down opposition using harsh means and explain away all of the issues facing the Russian people. Even a losing prolonged war is preferable to a quick loss. Ukraine knows this and is trying to recapture territory as quickly as possible because major strategic losses deal a serious blow to the legitimacy of the regime like we saw in Kharkiv where the regime was finally forced to admit that they had lost a battle. If Ukraine can keep inflicting blows like this the support base of Putin's regime will be severely weakened and any successor, even if they're just as authoritarian and right wing as Putin would likely have to pursue peace to internally stabilize the country.
There is an excellent military history documentary series in which the best episode was titled Politics by Other Means. It examines King Guy's utter defeat at Hattin, Mussolini's utter failure in North Africa and others and why politicians attempting to wage offensive war for political gain often fail. It was the first thing I thought of in February.
I've worked over there twice. The locals love us brits because of the assistance (I say assistance because they were also doing their bit and offering resistance)
There has been at least one really good documentary of the Islanders life before, during and after the War. They wanted nothing to do with Argentina, and welcomed the British return - but in a very "British" way. "Oh, your back then... took your time" was response I heard. Reading Argentinian books, it is striking how little the conscripts actually knew about the Islands - and were very confused by the hostility of the Islanders. One remarked on how the tiniest of nails holding barbed wire to a fence had "made in England" stamped on it - and he knew it was not going to end well.
Thank you to all the guys who served to take the Falklands back to British hands. We love you all and thank you for your service. Every day is poppy day From Great Britain
Thanks for the series, it's been very good. I do think you did 2PARA a bit of a disservice by not going into at least some detail regarding Goose Green. There was so much to talk about. From Lt Col Jones' death and VC, to the bayonet charge ordered against the school house. Goose Green was where the war got it's reputation for the fierce hand-to-hand trench actions that people still remember. Giving 2PARA a couple of minutes would have made a more complete video I feel.
Unlike most of their colonies, the Falklands were uninhabited before the British settled them, so it makes sense the inhabitants would want to remain British
@@sweaspurdoddd5466 No there really was an Argentine colony. It started as private venture with British and Argentine consent. It ended with the Royal Navy evacuating/evicting it when Argentina appointed a governor for it.
in may ways yes sadly every election time the politicals come out with the same old crap that the Falklands has been stolen and they if voted in will recover them rom the slavers .....sigh
@@me5969 Whats really ironic is she is part of history and simply part of living experience . Also part of history is the historical significance and legacy someone leaves behind and maggie is now considered to be one of the all time greats of prime ministers . A splitarse running the country in the 70`s ? ..... the old boys club would never have that ...... and yet it/she happened . The socialists leaving the place in ruination with blackouts , no food , rubbish feet deep and miserty to all fixed . A war taken on on the other side of the planet won and after time jobs at long long last with incentive to be your own poss and not be beholden to enrich others ....... history says she was bloody good ....... But you refer to no doubt the miners . I did not think it was right to close so many pits with nothing in its place , that was to the point of being criminal in my eyes but the actions of the miners in managing to close more pits than the yank ever wanted to speaks volumes . Scargill never went hungrey or suffered . He left a legacy of misery and dole for the next 20 years !
I really liked this video as it explained all the locations from a theatre level where it could be seen where all the battles are taking place in relation to each other. I am used to reading about each of the battles in isolation from each other and it sometimes get confusing where on the map these battles are taking place and what part of the time line.
Thank you for mentioning PTSD. It didn't exist in 1982. It was a product of the first gulf war. But some [many?] of us who were there do suffer to this day - every day - and every night.
Well when you're feeling like you're in a dark place.. please try and remember your loved so very much and appreciated unaquevkly.. write something down on here so someone can talk back to you x
I'd query if the Falklands are still a colony. These days they are fully self governing with their own elected government. They receive no aid from the UK (except for defence), the population is increasing rapidly, the economy is booming and their average income is 1.6 times that of a person in Britain. Their government and TV news consistently refer to the Falklands as a nation. So I think it's polite to respect that and acknowledge that they are a country, albeit a rather small one.
I was having a bit of a monologue before reading this thinking "I don't think the Falklands are really a colony-" before getting no further into my thoughts upon seeing this. Its like saying IOM is a colony
They're a colony in the older sense of a word, but in what is usually now understood they aren't in any respect. I mean, if they wanted independence or to join Argentina, the UK government would not object.
@@silverhost9782 From CIA factbook website, 'real GDP per capita section'. Falklands have 10th highest income in the world, USA is 17 and UK is at 40. Falklands also have no sales tax, VAT or GST, low income tax rates and a corporate tax rate of 21% for small companies and 26% for large ones. Despite those low taxes the government ran a surplus during the pandemic, possibly the only first world country to do so.
@@Dave_Sisson GDP per capita doesn't mean average income. The rest of that may well be true, but the average Falkland Islander making 1.6x more than the average Brit is likely wrong and certainly not proved by GDP per capita statistics
Loved the video @Historigraph! Can't wait for the next video man! To this day, the Falklands Islands are Defended by No. 1435 Flight, now equipped with Eurofighter Typhoons. They Fly out of RAF Mount Pleasant, North Falklands in the Falklands Islands bringing their Maltese Heritage from World War Two with them the Four Typhoons have the Same Designations as have All Aircraft operated by 1435 Flight, "F" or Faith, "H" or Hope, "C" or Charity and "D" or Desparation with the Latter usually in Reserve.
While I'm not a native English speaker, I believe using the word "defenders" for Argentinian forces is incorrect, those are "invaders"/"occupants". For the whole world (except for Argentina), the British "reconquest" of Folklands was a "liberation".
Any of the Guards are elite forces in the army, but it was best we sent the Scots, especially in that weather, it was probably like being back home for them lol
@@sampackman69mate the guards are NOT considered the elite . When not armoured or on public duties they are just like any other infantry regiment . The paras and marines are considered elite out side of the special forces . From an ex infantry soldier for 10 years.
Here is a fact for you all: there were quite a few Hongkong chinese involved in the Falkland War, for the Royal Fleet Auxiliary and Merchant Ships hired many sailors from Hongkong. 8 of them died in the conflict.
was wondering if you would consider doing an after action summary..the good/bad decisions on both sides...especially with the naval commanders...some glaring mistakes , and some equipment issues also..you have a great ability to present the content in a no BS format that is interesting for sure..thx for all of your hard work..
All good articulated commentary, but Falkland Islands is not a colony. It’s a overseas territory. The difference is British OT’s are completely self governing.
@@hyperbole6529 Ask ANYONE from ANY Country. They’ve ALL got “THE BEST “ Army. Navy. Air Force. It’s all dick swinging BULLSHIT. China for one would CRUSH most other Countries like Insects. With others, it would just take them a LITTLE BIT LONGER. A Regiment of Chinese pay corps would deal with the British Army in a weekend probably 🤒.
@@craigk3594 Yes and the Russians said that to Ukraine lmao please go away you offer nothing. Chinas fleet would be hunted and destroyed by our astute class subs no contest. So how else would they get here? 😉
A good video series. Could do with an add on epilogue to cover a few of the more notable operations. Such as Operation Black Buck - an insanely complicated bombing plan for Vulcans to hit the airfields
Gurkhas: *happy to storm a heavily defended mountain noises* British officers: Good news lads! No need for the assault on Mt Williams. The Argentinians abandoned their positions! Gurkhas: *sad Gurkha noises*
Out of curiosity: I know there is no love lost between Chile and Argentina, but I noticed that this seems also to apply to Brazil-Argentina. Would be very interested to hear why.
@@TomFynn Brazil and Argentina are huge rivals. Often, football becomes like a proxy war between them. Brazilians can't stand the Argentine arrogance, although many, for no reason, seem to simp for Argentina. Luckily, it is not universal.
Death is of course a natural part of war But to me no deaths have felt as pointless as those that happened in the Falklands War Young Argentinians sent to die to satisfy a tyrant's vanity project, with Brits being sent to an early grave just to put a stop to it Respect to all those who fought
As someone who is married to a Peruvian , the whole of Latin America with the exception of Chile supported and still supports Argentina. They hate the British govt and unfortunately many hate the British ppl , I received many racist comments from relatives of my wife. The issue of Falkland island ownership will never cease to be a cause of aggression I’m afraid. Funny how the Argentinians tho often forget that they massacred the indigenous populations of Argentina to create Argentina.
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The Falklands isn't a colony, it has its own government, laws, taxes
@@freedomwithoutreason9943 colonies can have extensive self government, it’s not mutually exclusive
@Charlie Carroll they are slowly unexisting themselves to be fair - becoming more polarised every year while their currency slowly falters. If they just return the tea from the habour, I'm sure we can come to some sort of deal.
The British colonies of America don't exist. They ended in 1783 when the UK recognised the sovereignty of the USA.
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Got to say. This is the best YT documentary series on the Falklands 🇫🇰
You and your team have given respect to the conflict and honoured the courageous soldiers on both sides.
You should all be proud.
Thanks so much
@@historigraph absolutely amazing work my friend! good job 👍 10/10.
what's next on your agenda if you don't mind me asking?
@@historigraph el portaviones se lo tocamos
@@terco1741 ponele que si, lo cual es debatible aun a sabiendas de que el ataque existió...
En que cambia la historia? hay que dejar de replicar esta pavada de que "casi ganamos". No, no estuvimos cerca de ganar, honestamente... el 2 de abril, el 21 de mayo, el 25 de mayo, el 8 de junio y en los montes Longdon y Tumbledown las fuerzas Argentinas hicieron una labor muy digna, en casi todo los casos (excepto el 2 de abril) contra fuerzas más modernas, mejor equipadas y superiores en número.
Eso es suficiente dignidad. Pretender inventar heroes que no lo son (como el caso de Poltronieri) y exitos incomprobables (como el ataque al Invincible) dándole más prensa que a los heroes reales que hicieron cosas extraordinarias que están documentadas, no suma en nada
@@patrickweissel5241 thanks pat i bet its a lot more than 264 now, war is murder mentally and physically, ive worked with lots of lads who fought there, theres some proper messed up heads out there still to this day,x
I was a Gurkha company commander in this war. There were no units called 1st and 2nd Gurkhas. We were the 1st Bn of the 7th Gurkha Rifles (1/7GR). The detached Company at Goose Green was C Company 1/7GR commanded by me. Hopefully you can amend?
Yeah the 2nd Gurkhas label is a typo, it is meant to say 1st Gurkhas. Tho in hindsight I could probably just have gone with Gurkhas. Sadly no way to amend a video once it has gone live
Respect.
Love you boys so very much. Your amazing in my eyes
Could pin the comment up top to help with clarification.
Although unrelated to The Falklands thread, having never served myself, but living through my Fathers memories, he adored the Gurkha's, training with them in Brunei and Hong Kong. I remember these men in Windsor Barracks about '72-'74. He found a Love of Hot curries, but not to hot though! Through these wonderful people. As a naïve youngster i did ask him, " Why don't the Gurkha's ever get posted to Northern Ireland?" He replied..." Because Son, there would be blood shed "
I've worked in the Falkland Islands twice.
The locals absolutely love being associated with the UK.
They were so glad of the British Government/Armed Forced help they renamed their main road in capital Stanley to Thatcher Road.
Lovely people who speak with a slightly West Country sounding accent.
ofc they are.. they are all brits hahaha
Ok @@mlx39996
I've worked for the British Army and they consider the Falklands the worst possible posting. Cyprus is the dream posting and the Falkands are the nightmare.
They joke that the Falkands is where you learn whether you fancy penguins, or sheep.
They also joke that 'It may be a shithole, but it's OUR shithole.'
@@julianllenas You're out of date there. The recent documentary on Radio 4 about the Falklands highlighted the increasingly diverse population because of the number of children with dual heritage backgrounds. That includes my children's mother, who is of Nigerian background, and my children who are obviously mixed. About 10% of the population is philipino and there are a significant number of black people from Zimbabwe (who were originally clearing land mines but many stayed), and even Jamaica. And of course other countries in South America.
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11:49 My dad was part of that attempted counter attack, he was shot in his right arm. Its amazing to me how you described it like him, like a rain of fire. Great video!
Must have been a terrifying experience
Glad he made it out ok
May Britain and Argentina never go to war again! Glad your dad survived!
@@isengard1500 devuelvan nuestra tierra sinontrde o temprano vamos a volver las Malvinas son argentinas
@@terco1741 Cry about it some more, maybe that’ll help you get it. And sorry about your Dad mate, glad he’s okay.
"Had to walk dozens of miles"
3 commando brigade in fact walked 80 miles in just 3 days across harsh terrain and in horrendous weather conditions.
3 commando has a competition every year to commemorate this achievement. The Lympstone (Commando Traning Center) to Poole (home of the SBS) race. An 80 mile run conducted over 2 days.
It's a day shorter granted, but it's done during the British summer and with a lot less kit.
My calculator tells me that "dozens" is, in fact, the correct number. Another correct number would be "tens".
A point made in a book I read by an ex-squaddie or RM Commando about NATO exercises in the '70s always saw American grunts travel in trucks while the BAOR walked. Turned out that was the correct option with the infantry walking across the Falklands and not losing a battle.
@@aaronleverton4221 Yes, I suppose it is! It is a bit ambiguous though.
That is an interesting observation. In the Falklands conflict the decision to walk was made after the cargo ship containing, I think 6, Chinnocks was sunk. Goes to show they'll always be a place, and a need, for a robust and highly mobile light infantry force.
We able to think fast and do what needs to be done
I believe it was called "Yomping"
Gotta love how the marines and paras complained the whole time but did it anyway, even making up a word in the process. Heros
@@sampackman69 Marines yomp and Paras tab, if I remember correctly.
I was pleasantly surprised when you mentioned the psychological effects of warfare when talking about the total casulties of this conflict. Very often only the dead and physically wounded are mentioned, leaving out mental wounds, which can be just as severe.
Yeah thanks, it was something I wanted to mention. I would have brought up the stats on veteran suicide but it seems the old often quoted stats on the weren’t accurate, at least according to my research
@@historigraph I appreciate this addition as well. I wish more historiographers mentioned it
Cases of PTSD etc are very hard to count up, since they aren't always obvious, often until years later.
It's not just the individual that suffers it's the entire family around them..
@@patrickweissel5241 Damn. So in this case you can straight up double the numbers when counting total casulties. War does truly brake the minds of men. Let us hope we never have to endure the things these and countless other soldiers have had to go through.
I was one of the crew on the Canberra. After the fighting finished we took all the Argentinian troops back home. The strangest thing was all the Argentinian officers was allowed to keep their side arms ( we was not happy with this, as you can imagine) It was said, for self defence, because of the abuses inflicted on there own troops. Margaret Thatcher made a speech, which was tanoyed to us before we entered Argentina, and a submarine surfaced behind us to calm our fears, as we had no clue as to our reception. Dont forget Argentina claimed to have sunk us a month or so before.
Officers being able to keep their sidearms is standard practice in a surrender though. Its partly an honour thing and partly a command and control thing. The Allies did the same for the Germans in 1944.
Worth mentioning that Lt Col Jones was also posthumously awarded the Victoria Cross. Although his is more controversial, with many commentators arguing his actions could have seriously affected those under his command.
The real hero was Major Chris Keeble, the guy who kept it all together after his CO death or gloried himself.
@@ObviousTroll2016 Brave or foolhardy?
A lot has been said about Lt Col "H" Jones. At the time the negative murmurings were kept quite and his death was used to galvanise the British public behind the war.
The questions most often asked are A) why the hell was he spearheading the attack when Sandhurst policy has always been "Your men first, then you sir!"
B) Mate? Seriously? Please don't jolly right up to that MG nest with just your bodyguard and a couple of 'tin-hungry Rupert's'.
C) Why aren't you giving your Rupert's more free reign?
The answer to all three is actually very easy. It's psychological. Jones was always going to charge forward like that, the moment the opportunity came. He was the eldest brother of 3, and "big-brother syndrome" is well known. Had things gone a little differently he would have been remembered like Quentin Smythe VC, or Harry Greenwood DSO or even Private John J. Kelly M.O.H x2.
He deserved the VC because he had the VC psychological dysfunction. But it's also that dysfunction that couldn't allow him to let his "little brothers" think too freely and work with their own initiative.
I would hope that this little quirk of the brain is far better understood now, and that people who think like that aren't put in a position to (mis)use it?
@@fhlostonparaphrase if Jones was successful this would never have been a question?
@@garethjames1300
Haha, that reminds me of:
"The difference between insanity and genius is success" 😅
This is how war documentaries should be done. These map graphics are perfect to understand what's going on.
Ian McKay. What a legend.
I served in The Rifles regiment, but I have to admit, if I had learnt more about the Falkands beforehand and heard of Sgt McKay, I may have gone for the Paras.
Great series mate.
a friends 3 para ......... good people
The bar in the Sgt's Mess over there is named after him.
Dirty leg
Thank you for doing this series. There just isn't enough up date content on this influential campaign. ❤
Very respectfully produced content
It's really difficult to overstate how impressive the entire operation was from the Brits. Managing to pull that off whilst so heavily outnumbered in the air, so far away from home is really something
Outnumbered by mostly conscripts so not really outnumbered at all!
@@garethjames1300
I doubt they let conscripts fly their multi million dollar jets, right?
(he did say "in the air" specifically, after all)
Yes, a stunning against all odds victory
@@garethjames1300 , would you want to attack high ground with heavily armed conscripts, firing high calibre machine guns down at you!?. I'd also like to add that they weren't all conscripts, some were well trained professional Argentine troops!
@@garethjames1300 they weren’t all conscripts, they were ALL well armed with better kit than us…
Arg 90's kid here. So this is what I knew about the war before watching this video. The war was not taught in schools at the time I went. If I asked my father or his friends they would all tell us that it was a mistake and a total one sided anihilation in favour of the british. They did tell us that the only streangth of Argentina was their Airstrikes and their low flight (which I learnt in this series that most bombs didn't detonate, so... I am happy no more people got hurt thanks to that). They would tell us that the british soldiers were lovely, and when Argentinians were captured, they were treated politely, and fed nice food. The thing that was most spoken and that was left out of this series, is the influence of Chile, that sided with the british allowing them to land their aircrafts on their territory and the use of their sea space for their ships. If I had to see the good side of this, is that this was the drop that ended the darkest age of our country, the dicatatorship.
Nowdays most people don't really care, ofcourse some grandparents are still upset, but most people weren't even born yet. The only thing, that I find stupid and weird, is that in our political maps, the ones schools use to teach geography for kids, have the falkland isles with a "(Arg.)" next to the name, weather if it's refusal to accept the outcome or it's to conmemorate those who fell, I don't know. Most Argentinians accepted Diego Maradona's hand goal against Engalnd on 86' worldcup as payback.
Payback? For Argentina invading and killing British civilians.
Excellent video, thanks for posting this.
A very clear and concise presentation review of the whole conflict on land, and very well delivered.
Well done and thank you.
You can quickly tell who's the good leader in the Argentinian side when the guy on the field has more balls to realize what's going down than the junta in their capital.
As people might expect, at the Falkands museum on the waterfront at Stanley there is a very big section about the 1982 war. It is really fascinating and I spent far longer there than I expected. Plus there's lots of other really interesting stuff in the museum about the Falkands past history and its nature.
Respect to the merchant seamen and women who volunteered on the ships. Great story about the crew of the Norland, a cross channel ferry. Were told they were only going as far as Ascension Island. Next thing they spearheaded the landing at San Carlos dodging Exocets. Not one of them flinched
We didn't have time to flinch, you either cacked it and got on with it, or got killed. In accordance with the Geneva conventions, none of the Merchant vessels were given arms so speed and the navy's flyboys were our only defence.
Nicely done, excellent work, and tastefully concluded. Some of the best history content available.
ruclips.net/user/shortsLxzWHxLqgP4 99% of the time people missing this part of story
Honestly as a falklander is think you did an amazing job on this, just one thing at the end you said we rely on britian for defence and our economy, while the the first is true we rely on ourselves when it comes to the economy.
Good on you and so you should.. you can't rely on other people for your way of life
You still use British currency.
@@matro2 correct, though we also use our own which to be fair is linked to the British pound. what i was referring to is we receiving no funding apart from defence. we make most of our money through fishing, tourism, farming and possibly oil in the future
This was a really good series, and the power of combined arms shows with the artillery and light tanks.
Genuinely wonderfully surprised at the talk of the mental trauma of the soldiers as a part of the casualties, as well as the detail of the two 17 year olds, children as I would call them, that were killed in that night assault. And I am as well impressed the talk of political repercussions of the war in both countries for better or for worse.
Along with the very good graphics, music, and narration typical to your videos.
The end of a masterpiece.
This series was perfect. Very impressive. Thank you Historigraph for your time and dedication. You never fail to impress.
A great finale to a great series! Thank for this Historigraph!
Godspeed to those who served and died in the Falklands War. May the rest in peace in the hilly landscape of the Falklands.
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Outstanding documentary! Hats off to you British! 🇺🇸💛🇬🇧
Just goes to show - the quality of your troops matters much more than numbers when facing the dull mass of conscripts.
Great video! The maps and graphics help a lot to understand the combats and manuevers! Greetings from Argentina
Damn. This is so insightful. Thanks for making this, I'm from the UK but know little of the detail surrounding the Falklands. Felt the Argentinians fought with honor. Fantastic series.
Really enjoyed this series, each episode wasn't to long and explained lots of details. Thank you;
The best Falklands documentary I've seen yet. Thank you!!!
Hugely enjoyable and knowledgeable/well researched series, this. Subscribed after watching your first video.
Thank you for this series. It was well done, and enjoyable and informative.
RIP to all lost in this war. I’ll be thinking of them this Remembrance Day.
Phenomenal series. Thank you for making it
Very typical of the Gurkhas to say they were robbed of their fight 😂, they’re very proud people and an honour to us Brits to have fighting alongside us
I think telling the Argies at Goose Green the Gurkhas were coming was enough to make them surrender!
@@LondonSteveLee I wouldn’t think anything less of anyone that made the right decision to turn and run from them lol
those asiatic rats were saved eat bullets in goose green.
3:50 *speed was of the essence*
Time was on the argentine side with winter coming and expecting a backlash in Britain against "maggie's war"
There was no time to starve out the argentinians, nor to grind them down to deplete their ammunition. There was also no logistical capability to supply and extended shelling from afar.
The loss of the helicopters made the required fast pace advance even more difficult. The surviving Chinook is a touchstone to all the people that know war is as much about supply as about courage. ruclips.net/video/9LNCVpFHeCI/видео.html
Equally important, for the argentine junta a prolonged (but contained) war was excellent for the local front. It would justify all problems and scacity. Silence any opposition and allow them to ride the winter. That is why they wanted Menendez to fight as long as possible, for internal political gains.
The early re-capture of the South Georgia with the loss of the submarine Santa Fe surely influenced the Junta's decision to leave Menendez without any resupply.
Gen Menendez's decision to surrender can be examined, and it will be found the right thing to do.
They could never have supplied Menendez. Keenly aware of the British nuclear subs you just can’t risk a ship full of men against a modern submarine
Even less so under carrier air strike
As for trying to fly men to Stanley Airport you’d be running a huge risk with an expensive plane full of men with minimal heavy equipment. Even if by some miracle you made it to the tarmac you’d be shot to shit on the runway
Any idea of reinforcement was dead the second Belgrano was sunk and was 6ft under in a coffin when the task force got to the Falklands
> Equally important, for the argentine junta a prolonged (but contained) war was excellent for the local front. It would justify all problems and scacity. Silence any opposition and allow them to ride the winter. That is why they wanted Menendez to fight as long as possible, for internal political gains.
Good example of that right now is Putin and the Ukraine war. So long as Russia can stay in the fight they can shut down opposition using harsh means and explain away all of the issues facing the Russian people. Even a losing prolonged war is preferable to a quick loss. Ukraine knows this and is trying to recapture territory as quickly as possible because major strategic losses deal a serious blow to the legitimacy of the regime like we saw in Kharkiv where the regime was finally forced to admit that they had lost a battle. If Ukraine can keep inflicting blows like this the support base of Putin's regime will be severely weakened and any successor, even if they're just as authoritarian and right wing as Putin would likely have to pursue peace to internally stabilize the country.
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There is an excellent military history documentary series in which the best episode was titled Politics by Other Means. It examines King Guy's utter defeat at Hattin, Mussolini's utter failure in North Africa and others and why politicians attempting to wage offensive war for political gain often fail.
It was the first thing I thought of in February.
@Dan Beech usa and uk fooled argentina into this war! now is a nato base!!! ...basically what this 2 scummy countries doing today with russia
This has been an excellent series.
"Only a single company of Gurkhas at Goose Green."
Mate, they're Gurkhas. One company is all you need.
LOVE THIS SERIES
Great end to a great series, well done.
One of the best mini docs on the Falklands I've seen
Fascinating recap of the battle! You explain it so well!
I would be interested to know what the view of this war was like from the inhabitants of Stanley
I've worked over there twice. The locals love us brits because of the assistance (I say assistance because they were also doing their bit and offering resistance)
I would have to guess that it wasn't a pleasant experience.
Tied by wires is a book that touches on some of the things that happened, but the people who lived there suffered badly under the argentinian rule
There has been at least one really good documentary of the Islanders life before, during and after the War. They wanted nothing to do with Argentina, and welcomed the British return - but in a very "British" way. "Oh, your back then... took your time" was response I heard. Reading Argentinian books, it is striking how little the conscripts actually knew about the Islands - and were very confused by the hostility of the Islanders. One remarked on how the tiniest of nails holding barbed wire to a fence had "made in England" stamped on it - and he knew it was not going to end well.
They’re British
British Forces: "I have the high ground!"
Mario Menendez: "Welp, that's all, folks"
This is an outstanding series. Thank you.
UK: It’s over Brig. Menendez! I have the high ground!
Menendez: Understandable. Have a nice day.
UK:
Star Wars ep3 reference?
You underestimate my power
I have correctly estimated your power!
Thank you to all the guys who served to take the Falklands back to British hands.
We love you all and thank you for your service.
Every day is poppy day
From
Great Britain
Great video.
I was in 2 Troop 9 Parachute Squadron Royal Engineers attached to 3 Para.
Thankyou sir. Loving the Falklands series.
To wash another hard day off and sit down to this.👌
Thanks for the series, it's been very good.
I do think you did 2PARA a bit of a disservice by not going into at least some detail regarding Goose Green. There was so much to talk about. From Lt Col Jones' death and VC, to the bayonet charge ordered against the school house.
Goose Green was where the war got it's reputation for the fierce hand-to-hand trench actions that people still remember. Giving 2PARA a couple of minutes would have made a more complete video I feel.
100% never mind the crap hats
What an amazing series on the falkslands war! Well done.
Unlike most of their colonies, the Falklands were uninhabited before the British settled them, so it makes sense the inhabitants would want to remain British
Technically the French also had a small outpost before the Brits arrived.
There was also a semi Argentine colony during the time Britain left.
@@daffyduck780 wrong m0ron.
@@daffyduck780 Spanish*
Argentina didn't exist yet
@@sweaspurdoddd5466 No there really was an Argentine colony. It started as private venture with British and Argentine consent. It ended with the Royal Navy evacuating/evicting it when Argentina appointed a governor for it.
Great Documentary, mainly the comments with the consequences two both contenders. Congratulations!
Not only did Britain liberate the Falklands; she liberated Argentina too.
Fightin' words...
No doubt some people are going to have a talk...
@c&f However if they had won the war, they wouldnt have been removed from power, and would have gone on to invade Chile
in may ways yes
sadly every election time the politicals come out with the same old crap that the Falklands has been stolen and they if voted in will recover them rom the slavers .....sigh
And then ended up with thatcher who ruined the lives and cities of half the bootnecks and paras who scrapped for it. Ironic really.
@@me5969 Whats really ironic is she is part of history and simply part of living experience . Also part of history is the historical significance and legacy someone leaves behind and maggie is now considered to be one of the all time greats of prime ministers .
A splitarse running the country in the 70`s ? ..... the old boys club would never have that ...... and yet it/she happened . The socialists leaving the place in ruination with blackouts , no food , rubbish feet deep and miserty to all fixed . A war taken on on the other side of the planet won and after time jobs at long long last with incentive to be your own poss and not be beholden to enrich others ....... history says she was bloody good .......
But you refer to no doubt the miners . I did not think it was right to close so many pits with nothing in its place , that was to the point of being criminal in my eyes but the actions of the miners in managing to close more pits than the yank ever wanted to speaks volumes . Scargill never went hungrey or suffered . He left a legacy of misery and dole for the next 20 years !
Great series. I grew up during this war and remember the news and feelings, but I never really knew what had happened until now.
Tremendous series, really good stuff! 👏
I love this series so much
I really liked this video as it explained all the locations from a theatre level where it could be seen where all the battles are taking place in relation to each other. I am used to reading about each of the battles in isolation from each other and it sometimes get confusing where on the map these battles are taking place and what part of the time line.
Thank you for this series
Thank you for mentioning PTSD. It didn't exist in 1982. It was a product of the first gulf war. But some [many?] of us who were there do suffer to this day - every day - and every night.
Well when you're feeling like you're in a dark place.. please try and remember your loved so very much and appreciated unaquevkly.. write something down on here so someone can talk back to you x
PTSD certainly existed in 1982. Many, many American veterans of the Vietnam conflict were diagnosed with PTSD.
@@williamwallace9826 He's saying it didn't exist in popular culture, it's not that hard to read between the lines.
Excelente serie, está guerra es inolvidable para ambos paises
Verdad
Sadly so
I'd query if the Falklands are still a colony. These days they are fully self governing with their own elected government. They receive no aid from the UK (except for defence), the population is increasing rapidly, the economy is booming and their average income is 1.6 times that of a person in Britain. Their government and TV news consistently refer to the Falklands as a nation. So I think it's polite to respect that and acknowledge that they are a country, albeit a rather small one.
I was having a bit of a monologue before reading this thinking "I don't think the Falklands are really a colony-" before getting no further into my thoughts upon seeing this.
Its like saying IOM is a colony
They're a colony in the older sense of a word, but in what is usually now understood they aren't in any respect. I mean, if they wanted independence or to join Argentina, the UK government would not object.
Income is 1.6 times that of a person in Britain? Interested to see where you learnt that...
@@silverhost9782 From CIA factbook website, 'real GDP per capita section'. Falklands have 10th highest income in the world, USA is 17 and UK is at 40. Falklands also have no sales tax, VAT or GST, low income tax rates and a corporate tax rate of 21% for small companies and 26% for large ones. Despite those low taxes the government ran a surplus during the pandemic, possibly the only first world country to do so.
@@Dave_Sisson GDP per capita doesn't mean average income. The rest of that may well be true, but the average Falkland Islander making 1.6x more than the average Brit is likely wrong and certainly not proved by GDP per capita statistics
Superb man, excellent video series
Great series! I look forward to what you tackle next. Any clues?
Loved the video @Historigraph! Can't wait for the next video man! To this day, the Falklands Islands are Defended by No. 1435 Flight, now equipped with Eurofighter Typhoons. They Fly out of RAF Mount Pleasant, North Falklands in the Falklands Islands bringing their Maltese Heritage from World War Two with them the Four Typhoons have the Same Designations as have All Aircraft operated by 1435 Flight, "F" or Faith, "H" or Hope, "C" or Charity and "D" or Desparation with the Latter usually in Reserve.
While I'm not a native English speaker, I believe using the word "defenders" for Argentinian forces is incorrect, those are "invaders"/"occupants". For the whole world (except for Argentina), the British "reconquest" of Folklands was a "liberation".
This has been amazing thank you mate! Brilliant quality well done
Let me congratulate you on this outstanding series.
Victory never in doubt with Scot’s guardsmen present. Well done troops
One lift of the kilts and the argies would have pegged it!
Any of the Guards are elite forces in the army, but it was best we sent the Scots, especially in that weather, it was probably like being back home for them lol
@@sampackman69mate the guards are NOT considered the elite . When not armoured or on public duties they are just like any other infantry regiment . The paras and marines are considered elite out side of the special forces .
From an ex infantry soldier for 10 years.
Incredible story. Glad I found this channel
Loved this whole series thank you
Here is a fact for you all: there were quite a few Hongkong chinese involved in the Falkland War, for the Royal Fleet Auxiliary and Merchant Ships hired many sailors from Hongkong.
8 of them died in the conflict.
Yes absolutely - worth noting
Chinese laundry on practically every ship.
was wondering if you would consider doing an after action summary..the good/bad decisions on both sides...especially with the naval commanders...some glaring mistakes , and some equipment issues also..you have a great ability to present the content in a no BS format that is interesting for sure..thx for all of your hard work..
The boys did so well with limited equipment. I applied to join the RAF that summer and started in early 1983. I wanted to do my bit.
The RAF swanned around afterwards pretending they won the war. Won by the Royal Navy and the Army.
In my opinion, you should make a Battlemap strategy game
I wasn't expecting the land campaign to be so quick... I guess that is just because of how few soldiers were involved
Great review...well done Sir, well done indeed.
Scots Guards + Gurkha's would be a force i wouldn't want to fuck with.
Yep
Outstanding series, amazing job !
All good articulated commentary, but Falkland Islands is not a colony. It’s a overseas territory. The difference is British OT’s are completely self governing.
Great doc u series! Really enjoyed this piece!
We are a small nation but we have the best troops in the world
So does everyone else.
@@craigk3594 who?
@@hyperbole6529
Ask ANYONE from ANY Country.
They’ve ALL got “THE BEST “ Army. Navy. Air Force.
It’s all dick swinging BULLSHIT.
China for one would CRUSH most other Countries like Insects.
With others, it would just take them a LITTLE BIT LONGER.
A Regiment of Chinese pay corps would deal with the British Army in a weekend probably 🤒.
@@craigk3594 Yes and the Russians said that to Ukraine lmao please go away you offer nothing. Chinas fleet would be hunted and destroyed by our astute class subs no contest. So how else would they get here? 😉
Just watched them all back to be back. What a treat
Great vid
Great graphics, and overall a nicely done job
A good video series. Could do with an add on epilogue to cover a few of the more notable operations. Such as Operation Black Buck - an insanely complicated bombing plan for Vulcans to hit the airfields
Yeah I am thinking of doing a 'all the things I left out' livestream
The Vulcans were already done by The Operations Room:
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There's not much left, to add to it.
@@historigraph That's going to be quite a long livestream. Are you going to break it up or marathon it? 😂
@@historigraph what SAS and SBS operations on the Falklands other than pebble island?
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@@MrNicoJac yea, that video is why I chose to focus on some other things in this series
Thanks for a great series.👍
Gurkhas: *happy to storm a heavily defended mountain noises*
British officers: Good news lads! No need for the assault on Mt Williams. The Argentinians abandoned their positions!
Gurkhas: *sad Gurkha noises*
What damn good series love your channel!!!
Today, more than ever: Falklands are Britsh!! (From Brazil)
Out of curiosity: I know there is no love lost between Chile and Argentina, but I noticed that this seems also to apply to Brazil-Argentina. Would be very interested to hear why.
@@TomFynn Brazil and Argentina are huge rivals. Often, football becomes like a proxy war between them. Brazilians can't stand the Argentine arrogance, although many, for no reason, seem to simp for Argentina. Luckily, it is not universal.
Loved this.
Cool series…
Thank you for this video, very informative and moving.
That's brill' More than brill' . Bloody brill' Exceptionally more brill' than I am able expend on efforts of gratitude. Brill' .
Excellent series!
These videos are unbelievably good just cracked a beer and some chips. RIP to all who perished BTW
Great series, thanks.
Death is of course a natural part of war
But to me no deaths have felt as pointless as those that happened in the Falklands War
Young Argentinians sent to die to satisfy a tyrant's vanity project, with Brits being sent to an early grave just to put a stop to it
Respect to all those who fought
As someone who is married to a Peruvian , the whole of Latin America with the exception of Chile supported and still supports Argentina. They hate the British govt and unfortunately many hate the British ppl , I received many racist comments from relatives of my wife. The issue of Falkland island ownership will never cease to be a cause of aggression I’m afraid.
Funny how the Argentinians tho often forget that they massacred the indigenous populations of Argentina to create Argentina.