Awesome Longboard | 21mph / $370 / Easy Build
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2017
- This longboard is much more fun than I expected. I’ll definitely be riding it often! It’s very fast, powerful, and easy to build.
Here is a followup video for this build:
• Awesome Electric Longb...
Here are the parts:
Hub motors with front trucks and wheels:
www.ebay.com/itm/90mm-dual-636...
Dual motor ESC with remote:
www.ebay.com/itm/Dual-motors-l...
Sometimes the eBay listing expires. You can do an advanced search by Seller and look for either "eboard-shop" or "dickyho2015" - the seller has 2 usernames he uses. You can also search eBay for something like "skateboard dual esc".
Two 5S / 3Ah batteries
hobbyking.com/en_us/zippy-fli...
This is also a good 4Ah battery option:
hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-4...
Another 5Ah battery option:
hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-b...
Xt-60 series connector:
hobbyking.com/en_us/xt60-seri...
Deck:
www.skateshred.com/index.php/w...
skateshred.com also has other skateboard stuff like hardware, risers, and a skate tool.
Griptape:
dklskateboarding.com/
Sandwich containers:
www.amazon.com/Sistema-Collec...
Screws and washers can be found at most hardware stores like Homedepot:
sheet metal screws: #6 x 3/8” (for screwing the container to the deck)
sheet metal screws: #6 x 1/2” (for mounting ESC)
flat washers: #8
B6AC v2 LiPo Balance Charger:
www.ebay.com/sch/b6ac+v2
Parallel Balanced Charging Board:
www.amazon.com/Weyland-Parall...
Rotary tool:
www.harborfreight.com/heavy-d...
Music:
“Dill Pickles” Heftone Banjo Orchestra (freemusicarchive.org) 
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I really enjoyed the style of this video. Simply informative, no BS.
Thanks! I try to stick to the point.
Just wanted to say that I'm seriously enjoying these videos. this build is so simple and low cost I decided to build one for myself after all! I'm just waiting on the ESC now, I'll let you know how it goes. I appreciate your work, you're a legend Oren!
Thanks for the words of encouragement! I'm glad this video inspired you to build your own. Good luck, and let me know how it turns out!
Your videos are so encouraging. I'm just starting my first build and excited about the outcome. Thanks.
This is one of the best DIY Longboard build videos I've seen yet. No vlogs at the start or end, actually shows us the build, details and gives links to all parts used, shows the actual speed/hill test, and some good camera work and editing... what more could you ask for? Reminds me a lot of NightHawkInLight and some of those other build channels, but for longboards. Good work man.
Thanks for the encouragement! I try to keep my videos helpful and to the point, and work on making them better.
Thanks for letting me cruise on one of your boards Oren, it was the most fun I've had in a long time!!!
Hey Perk, yeah it was very fun! It was awesome seeing your new book finished, it looks great and I really like the sound effect!
Great informative video and a lot of work you have put into it, as well as the parts list. I'm on a budget and your work will save me a lot of effort when I plan on building my elongboard.
This is by far the best DIY Electric Skateboard build on youtube, Just so simple, cheap and informative. (EDIT I just bought the componets that you linked and hope for a good ride later on!)
Thanks! I'm glad it's helpful. Good luck with your build! I'm going to post another video soon with some small changes I made to the board.
love how you explaned each part clearly keep it up
Love the suggestion about the softer grip tape at 1:40. Totally makes sense for longboards.
Thanks! Yeah, I hated having my fingers get sanded from carrying the board. BTW, great video with the 70mm Maytech motors. You did a nice job making them fit on a standard truck. I used those motors for my first build.
I really liked your simple construction and I was able to build such a skateboard for myself. Thanks
thank you oren projects i like the style of your videos
Thank you!
Dude you are a genius, and the best youtuber ever. Thanks for this video!
Thanks for the kind words!
I swear this guy feels like the Jafromobile of boosted boards. I love it!
Excellent tutorial vids. Loved the parts/price/source lists. I just discovered you, sub'd & liked. Look forward for more. Thnx for your time.
Thanks for the support!
So I did this build and have been using it daily on campus for about 2 weeks now. I'm 150 lbs and my campus is EXTREMELY hilly. Like there was no way of gaining a freshman 15 just because of how much excercise from class to class I had walking lol. But this build has done extremelyyyy well I can't find a hill on campus I can't get up. For all beginners looking for a solid first build I would highly recommend this one due to the simplicity and performance. I didn't have to do any soldering for this build at first. However one thing I would do over is soldering up some kind of anti spark because after two weeks I have notice a slight wear and tear in the board. However awesome build Oren! I love my board and I'm hooked on eskate builds now because of it!
Thanks so much for sharing your experience! It's very encouraging for me to hear these videos were helpful and your build turned out well. For the anti-spark I know that can be a bit of a problem. The issue is I've only seen XT-90 anti-spark connectors and couldn't find XT-60. My connectors have been holding up well so far though. One solution to reduce the spark is to add a switch inline with the battery, like I did in my recent video "My best electric skateboard" ruclips.net/video/5_hDH7vXdcQ/видео.html. That's funny about not gaining freshman 15. Hopefully the electric skateboard won't prevent you from exercising :)
I’m thinking of building this exact board for college, what do you mean by wear and tear from the spark ?
When the board hasn't been plugged in for a while there is a spark when you connect the battery, which could eventually wear out the connector. However, so far I still don't see any significant wear on mine. You can always replace the connector for a few dollars if needed.
I may do just this for a simple fun build. How long did shipping take on the motors and esc? Nice vid ! Thanks !
Thanks! It is a fun board! I got both the ESC and motors from the same seller on eBay. Using express shipping (DHL), it arrived at my door in less than a week from the time I ordered.
Nice build! I might give it a try to make my own board. I've already ordered a Verreal V1 and still waiting on it. Thanks for the video and info.
Thanks! I don't know much about the Verreal V1. It reminds me of meepoboard. The motors look interesting, they seem similar to the ones I'm using but the trucks are a bit different. I'd like to hear how that board works out.
Oren's Projects I'll let you know. In the meantime you could watch reviews on it by Andrew Penman & Dylan Kowalski. The owner, Vic Duan, even has reviews of the boards capabilities and parts used to build it along with their integrity. By the way it is beautiful out there where you're skating.
Thanks! I'll check out those videos. Yeah, southern California has nice weather and nature :)
I know I’m late but you are a life saver. Im a beginner. I’m getting a 42 inch longboard soon
Hi Owen, loved the vid. I know this is kinda late after you posted this but I am looking into building one. Should I use 3000, 4000, or 5000 mah battery? Thanks in advance
Awesome video man great job
Thanks!
Oren! Just love your videos my friend :) Fun budget build! I gotta ask, how do you like those dual ESCs versus the VESCs. I like the price but the braking in my experience is a bit harsh. Anyhow, keep up the videos. These videos contribute a lot to the future esk8 community!
- Neil
Hey Neil, thanks for the support! You did a great job with your latest video on another budget board! There are so many inexpensive options now. I've been happy with the dual ESCs. Once I get used to the braking I'm fine with it. I'd rather it stop a bit harshly than not enough. Honestly I think it's difficult to justify getting VESCs at this point. Two VESCs and a remote is about 4 times the price.
Oren's Projects thanks Oren! Yeah, I love commenting and supporting all the RUclips esk8 people because it’s the encouragement that keeps them going and then we keep getting quality vids to watch! I’m going to be going back to DIY vids next video. I’ll be building a board for a friend. That’s the most fun to me 😄
good video, liked it!
can you please provide the list of tools (not the parts, but drills etc.) needed to build this kind of electric longboard?
Thanks!
I go over the parts more in my previous video at around 13:06
ruclips.net/video/x4-DNHn-SAc/видео.html
Screws and washers can be found at most hardware stores like Homedepot:
sheet metal screws: #6 x 3/8” (for screwing the container to the deck)
sheet metal screws: #6 x 1/2” (for mounting ESC)
flat washers: #8
I used this rotary tool with a cutting wheel for the sandwich container and aluminum strips
www.harborfreight.com/heavy-duty-variable-speed-rotary-tool-kit-31-pc-60713.html
I used this drill for the screws
www.harborfreight.com/38-in-variable-speed-reversible-drill-60614.html
I'll try to make a video soon showing more detail of the building
Hi great video, I’m looking at building my own and was wondering if there is an advantage to using 2 5s batteries instead of 1 10s.
Thanks! There is no real advantage to using two 5S batteries. If you build your own battery with a BMS than a single 10S battery would be best. I use 2 5S packs because LiPos usually aren't available in 10S and most balance chargers only support up to 6S. I use LiPo batteries because they're usually much cheaper and easier to put together. I hope that helps.
Love your video. Where can I get a cheap board that’s built well?
Oren's Projects nice job! You inspired me to make one too! Thanks!
Awesome! I'm glad it was helpful. Good luck with your build!
fantastically done! subscribed. I may build this one for myself!
Thanks for the support! I'm sure you'll do well with a build.
You are my new Hero. I totally need to try building this thing. Can you replace the tread on the wheels or do you have to replace unit??
That's awesome you're planning a build. Good luck! The rubber is not replaceable. You would need to replace the whole motor. However, they seem durable and I think will last a while.
That thing gets to top speed fast I have a skatebolt tornado 2 but this makes me wanna build another
Very comprehensive video.
Thank you 👍
Thanks! I hope it's helpful.
Great build! Do you know if the switch on the esc is an anti spark one? is it safe? There is something else you do beside clicking on it when you want to fully turn off the board? Please keep make more DIY esk8 videos they are awesome!
Thanks! I'm glad the videos are helpful. The switch is electronic so there wouldn't be a spark. Sparks are usually caused by mechanical switches (or connecting wires manually). I think the electronic switch is good for temporarily turning the board off but I usually disconnect the battery to be safe.
HI will these hub motors work fine without the sensors plugged in? i plan to use them on my vescs but i dont believe the sensor plugs are going to match up
Hi Oren, great project and video. I'm also thinking of getting a Skatedhred deck for my own project. Just wondering how the bamboo deck is holding up and whether you get wheel bite at all? Also is there much flex in that deck? Thanks.
Thanks! The dropthrough deck I used is holding up great and is built very well. There's no problem with wheel bites. The cutout is big enough for the wheels to have clearance. It has some flex but is thicker and less flexible than something like a boosted board.
Firstly, thank you for answering all my questions so far! I feel like I'm spamming your video, but I have one last question.
I wanted to swap out the little shrink wrapped nylon xt60 connectors because the solder snapped. I bought a 12AWG dual battery harness thinking that would work excellent. However when I plug in my fresh batteries, it just beeps at me like it did before when the batteries were only 6s equivalent.
Have you got any insight as to how I might fix my newest problem?
make sure the batteries are charged, are the correct voltage and are wired with the correct polarity, and in parallel, not series. . many esc's have voltage protection and will not fire if if things are not right.
wow great vid I were wondering is all the cables that are unconnected spouse to be like this or is it just unconnected im talking about the white connectors with colorful cables
Thanks! There are 2 types of cables that are not connected. The slightly bigger connectors with 6 multi-color wires that are attached to the battery are for balance charging the lipo batteries. The smaller connectors with 5 multi-color wires that are connected to the motors are for the sensors. The ESC does have ports to connect the sensors but in this case I didn't connect them because the motors didn't work properly with them connected - it might work with a different revision of the ESC. The sensors usually aren't required. They help when the motor is starting from a complete stop. The motors have been working great for me, even from a complete stop, without the sensors. I hope this helps.
nice project! clean setup. I am gonna built a belt drive version, but I am thinking about test one motor and add another one if I need. Do you think this dual motor esc works with only one motor as well?
Thanks! I just tested the ESC with one motor connected and it seems to work well when I just spin the motor. I haven't tested actual riding, so I'm not sure how well it'll hold up. You can also ask the person you buy it from to check.
Great video. Where do you buy replacement wheels and bearings? Or does it use standard bearings?
Hey, how do you feel about the controller and the control overall? I've ridden a couple different commercial boards, and one practically threw you off no matter how fast you were going, the other had nice buttery braking. Thanks for the great build. Good info!
EDIT - Looks like it's not available anymore anyhow.
@Oren By any chance can you do a vid on how you connected the remote to the board i can't
seem to find any videos that show how to do it
The ESC and remote were always paired when I got them. I might have gone through the process once. The instructions are shown in the description of the eBay listing for the ESC.
www.ebay.com/itm/Dual-motors-longboard-skateboard-control-modula-ESC-Substitute-with-remote/323106658704
I hope this helps.
Another great analysis!
Thank you!
Awesome ESK8!!! I'm considering building something like yours. I have a couple questions. Do you need any other connects like xt-90 etc.. How do you make sure there isn't too much power going out and in(so that it doesn't explode)How would you add a battery percentage indicator? Can you make a video on how to charge this board and how you built it?? and finally is it easy to add a simple charging solution so you just plug it in and charges without the whole balance charger thing and how would you do that?
Thanks for taking the time to read and respond to all of my questions!
Thanks! The ESC comes with an xt-60 connector so if your battery is also xt-60 you don't need any converters. If you get a battery with xt-90 you will either need to converter to xt-60 or replace the connector on the ESC or battery. As far as the current draw on the battery, most lipos that are 20C or more can safely provide all the current the motor will draw - so there won't be a problem. For a battery indicator, it's not easy finding one that supports 42V DC and also small enough to fit in the sandwich container. Looks like the case you found on eBay with the indicator is a good option. The ESC will also beep when the battery is low. I'll probably make another video showing more build details. Big Kids made a nice detailed video on charging lipos ruclips.net/video/3dfBrrNUsos/видео.html. It's possible to add a Battery Management System (BMS) so you don't need to balance charger, but I think it's only worth doing if you build your own battery pack, which is too much trouble in my opinion. A balance charger is pretty easy to use. Hope this helps!
Thanks so much!
Really cool. Since there's no BMS, what do you think would happen if you went downhill on a full charge with this setup?
Thanks! I've thought about that before. I'm not sure. It hasn't been a problem yet. I'd imagine it could be a problem even if you have a BMS. The power generated would have to go somewhere. If it's not going to the battery it would turn into heat. Once when I was going down a very steep hill using a different ESC (the VESC) I think the electronics overheated and the brakes shut off and the board started rolling fast. Luckily I was able to jump off quickly!
Super helpful! Thankyou!
Hello! Nice vidéo !!
Just a question for you, the endurance test for distance is do with 3000mAh lipo?
If yes, do you have beter distance with the same in 5000mAh?
Thank's for all!!
I haven't fully tested the range with the 3Ah and 5Ah batteries. I can get around 7-8 miles with the 3Ah batteries and 12+ miles with 5Ah. Someday when I have more time I'll try to test longer rides. I hope that helps.
how do u change the speed limit for this esc ?
Hey man after watching your video am supper hyped to build one I got all the stuff you listed, but i want to take it up a notch. I want use an off-road wheels ... any advice how I can combine this model with off road wheels. I would really appreciate it
Awesome! I'm glad the video was helpful. I'm not sure how you can use the hub motors from this board with off-road wheels. There is no easy way to change the rubber wheel part. For an off road board you might want to use a belt drive system so you can use bigger wheels. I'm going to post a video soon on a belt-drive board I built. Good luck with your build!
the Meepo board is about 5.2 inches off the ground. which is too high for my comfort zone. how high is yours using the drop through deck? great design! i love it
Thanks! The drop through deck I used in this build is 4" off the ground near the trucks. The deck is concave so it's about 1/2" higher on the left and right edges.
How will those motors perform on 6s? Since there is rpm limit anyway, do you think its going to be fine on relatively flat roads?
Nice vids! Ive been considering making my own electric longboard when I have the extra cash. With the cheap boards like the meepo board its hard to justify making one on the budget though.
Can you get regenerative breaking on this? Thats a feature most boards come with that you dont hear about much on diy builds.
Meepo is definitely a great board for the money if you want something already built to just start riding. I think the custom route is more about personalizing - and keeping the price low. In my case, I prefer the deck, griptape, and battery setup I used over the meepo. The ESC in this build is basically the same as meepo and does have regenerative braking. DIY boards with VESCs also have regenerative braking.
Ah nice thanks for the info.
I have always liked to make my own stuff. It just gets tricky when the custom starts costing more then the pre built :s
I was originally going to try and make a belt drive one, cuz I can make the majority of non electronics with my 3d printer. And I already have 2 ok size motors and esc's from when I was trying to make a drone that would probably work ok. And I think you can 3d print belts now. But they suck to push which makes hub motors sound nicer for if you want to ride it normally. Maybe I can maek a belt drive and switch to hub motors later without needing to change the other electronics.
But this bae needs to be made electric lol. Aka my board. landyachtz.com/us/maple-chief-floral-729
Good work Oren :)
Thanks!
Oren's Projects hey man I eyjoyed these videos great job. I’m building my first mountain board electric . Still will build a long board aswel. I’m goin to sub to your channel because your a great guy👍🏽
Thank you! A mountain board sounds fun. I wish I had one. Having a second longboard for street is nice too!
Hey Oren do you think there's enough room to do a dual belt drive setup on this particular deck?
I don't think so
Hi Oren great video!
Quick question, what would be the difference between using a 3Ah, 4Ah and 5Am ?
Thanks!
Thanks! In terms of the additional range, it should be relatively linear. I can get around 8 miles with a 3Ah battery, so a 4Ah should get about 33% more range (10.6 mi), and 5Ah should get around 66% more (13.3 mi).
Great video, very informative! Thank you
Thanks!
Is it possible to put more than 2 batteries in parallel ?
Yes, you can charge as many batteries as will fit on the parallel charging board - just make sure they are all equally discharged.
i wanna buy the board that u show on the link but the problem is they don't ship it into singapore is there any other long board that i can buy other then those because i wanna make it foldable by DIY the board
Great vid I just bought all the parts to make my own
Thanks! That's awesome. Good luck with your build!
Hello!! What would be the difference between the amperage (amps) in the batteries options?
Love your videos men! Again greetings from Chile 🇨🇱
Thanks for the kind words! The only difference between like the 5Ah batteries and the 3Ah batteries is how much charge they can store - how long you can ride on a single charge. Both batteries will provide roughly the same amount of current and the performance of the board will be the same.
So crazy how you shouted out the meepo board years ago and now it’s a full blown company making a lot of noise in the esk8 community
Hey I just built the same setup that you that you have. Just wondering if there is anyway you can cut the speed limiter out as it feels a bit sketchy.
Unfortunately, the ESC in this board is not configurable, so there is no way to remove the speed limiter. This ESC is a great value but configurablilty is one of the tradeoffs.
Another quesiton, is there a way I could hook up a battery % indicator and maybe attach it to the sandwich container?
Most battery indicators I've seen were too bulky to fit in the sandwich container. The ESC will beep when the battery is getting low so I haven't really needed one. You could try this enclosure, which has a battery indicator, that alec Van Kerckhove found.
www.ebay.com/itm/Plastic-dual-controller-case-and-heat-sink-and-battery-indicator/302489840417
What are all of the wires you used? what connectors should i buy? Also how do you plug the power button into the ESC do you need extra wires to do this?
The ESC has 2 sets of 3 wires (to power each motor). You can connect the 3 wires in any order. If the motor is spinning in the wrong direction just swap 2 of the wires. Each motor also has a connector with thinner wires for the sensors. Those can also plug into the ESC but are optional. In my case, the motors worked better without the sensors connected. The only other wires are for the batteries and switch. If you want the battery to directly plug into the ESC make sure it has a XT-60 connector. The switch (with wires) comes with the ESC. The switch should already be plugged into the ESC when you get it. I have links to all the parts in the description. Hope this helps.
Thanks! Your video influenced to build my own!
That's awesome! I think you'll enjoy it. Good luck!
Awesome!!! Will be?building one thanks for sharing
Thanks! Good luck with your build!
Great vid, going to try and make one similar to this! is it worth installing a BMS ?
just bought all my parts - going to try use a BMS connected to a DC port. Will update if it works!
Update - I basically copied all of this, but I installed a BMS hooked up to a DC 2.5mm jack, charges nicely.
I also made a little wooden enclosure with a thin aluminium lid.
The board is absolutely amazing, I live in the Welsh Valleys so its really hilly, and this has absolutely no issues going up steep hills and down them too!
Thanks for making these vids mate couldn't have done it without these
@@tomwilliams6594 Can you send a parts list?
do you need to balance the batteries when charging if so what balancer did you use? and how?
Hi, I have a Mongoose ATB that I would like to mod out to be electric. But I'd like to use the wheels that the board came with. Do you think the motor you used in this build will work? Like, will the motor line up with the holes in the wheels?
Hi I really like your project.
I'm going to build my own electric skateboard and I am thinking about parts you used. I like the hub motors. But the thing is I'm living in UK and there is quite often rainy. Roads are wet and I don't want to kill the board because of little rain. Do you know if your motors are water/splash proof or can you recommend any good ones?
Thanks! Yeah, I'm lucky it doesn't rain much in southern California. The motors I use should be water proof. These are the same used on the meepoboard and he's made videos riding through heavy rain with them. As long as you keep the battery and ESC properly sealed I think you'll be ok. It's probably best to try to dodge areas with deep water though.
Can you attach VESCS to the motors or you buy to buy certain ESC's that work with the hub motors? I've just built and posted a video on a 12,600 watt AWD skateboard.
Your build is very impressive! I think you can fly up any hill in the world with it! I'm pretty sure the VESCs can work with any electric skateboard motor, including the hub motors in this build. In my first build I use dual VESCs with hub motors.
The eBay seller I got the ESC from also sells a 4WD version
www.ebay.com/itm/4WD-longboard-skateboard-controller-with-remote-ESC-Substitute/302558036328
Hi Oren did you use a bms for this setup? Also how would you put a charging port for the batteries
Nice video! Just wondering if the charger came with the ESC?
Thanks! The charger is sold separately. I use the B6AC V2 balance charger, which is around $45. I have a link in the description.
Think you could put hub motors for both trucks with 4 batteries for heavier riders?
this question is kinda out of context but i livein pr so i just considering buikding my own since they dont ship over here
you think they shipp the batteries motor etc?
Most of the stuff from Hobbyking and eBay ships from China so they can probably ship to any country. Hopefully there won't be any problems. Good luck with your build!
Hi. Does anyone know if you need both the parallel charge board and the lipo balance charger? Thanks
Looks like it. I'm assuming the lipo balance charger won't do two 5s at the same time. You can't just wire them up at the same time either because how would it balance charge then? One option would be to charge one 5s battery and then charge the other one separately. Obviously this is not optimal, and the parallel charge board can't be too expensive right?
could you please show us how you wired all the electronics together? i am a newbie....
I'll try to include how the wiring is done in another video. There are just a few connections needed to wire this ESC. Each motor has 3 power wires and usually a small 6-pin connector for the sensors. On this dual ESC there are 2 sets of 3 wires for each motor to connect to. The wires can be connected in any order. On this setup you don't need to connect the 6-pin sensor wires - it worked better for me disconnected. Then just connect the ESC to the battery to power the system. Once you get it working, if the motors are spinning in the wrong direction, swap 2 of the motor wire connectors to reverse the direction. I hope this helps for now!
thank you!
How do you charge the batteries? Also, how do you know when you need to charge them? I want to make a board with battery level indicator, do you think that's a good idea?
I charge the batteries using a balance charger and parallel charging board. The charger I use is the "b6ac v2" you can find them on eBay or Amazon. I usually recharge the batteries after every ride. The newer version of the ESC in this video has a built-in battery level indicator. The ESC will also start beeping when the battery gets very low. If you buy the ESC now you should already get a battery level indicator :). You can get it from eBay (link in description) or meepoboard.com. I'll post a video soon showing the newer ESC, how I charge batteries, and more details on how I put my boards together.
Hands down my favorite electric skateboard DIY on RUclips. I was wondering how different it would be if I used a" ZIPPY Compact 5000mAh 3S 25C Lipo Pack" rather than the "ZIPPY Flightmax 3000mAh 5S1P 20C" you used in this video? What negative/positive consequences would there be from doing so?
Thanks! I'm glad this video is helpful. The first and most significant negative of 3S batteries is the board would be much less powerful running at 6S (two 3S batteries). I would definitely prefer 10S (two 5S batteries). For the discharge rate, 20c should be plenty (25c wouldn't make a difference). As for capacity, if you get 5S 5000mah batteries you will get around 20km (12.5mi) of range instead of 12km (7.5mi) with 3000mah. The drawback of higher capacity is you will make the board a bit heavier and have less clearance under the board.
I forgot to mention that a 6S 5Ah battery will get approximately the same range as a 10S 3Ah battery. I explain it more and included links to other battery options in my previous comment to TheHonarable1. Hope this helps.
Okay makes more sense! Thank you ^^
I’m new at skateboarding and just bought and electric skateboard... should it be a front or back hub drive?
Nice build! I just bought the same motors and esc. I plan on using Venom 3s 5000mah 50c batteries. Do you see a problem with that and what if any difference will I see versus the batteries you used? If possible id love to get longer range than the 7-8 miles your getting. Thank a lot!
Thanks! The Venom batteries look high quality but I would definitely recommend 5S batteries (like I used) instead of 3S. The board will be much more powerful and faster at 10S (2x 5S) vs 6S (2x 3S). Also, 50c would be overkill for an electric skateboard. You should be fine with 20c - 30c batteries, which are generally cheaper. As far as the capacity, 4000mah - 5000mah should be good for a longer range board.
Thx for the informative reply. I guess another option would be for me to wire 3x 3s batteries in series but then Im adding more weight and charge time I suppose. Again thx for your help!
The ESC in this video is limited to 6S, 7S, or 10S (I wish it supported 8S instead of 7S), so the only good options are basically 6S or 10S. 6S could be ok if you're not too heavy and don't need to go up steep hills. Another thing to consider is range is related more to Watt Hours than Amp Hours. A good rule of thumb is to divide the Wh of the battery by 10 to get the range in km. A 6S 5Ah battery will get you approx 24V * 5Ah = 120 Wh => 12 km range. A 10S 3Ah battery will get you approx 40V * 3Ah = 120 Wh => 12 km range. So they basically have the same range. Hobbyking sells a few 4Ah and 5Ah 5S batteries. Here are some that already have an XT-60 connector.
hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-4000mah-5s-30c-lipo-pack-xt-60.html
hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-nano-tech-5000mah-5s-25-50c-lipo-pack-xt-60.html
You can run 9S if you go with a different, more expensive, ESC like the VESC.
Lots of info in that response...much appreciated bro!
Did you config the esc in computer or just plug in and ready to go?thanx
Oren is there away to increase the range on the board? Because I'm seriously considering k. Building the same one for my self just for general use like going other side of town and gym, things like that (My town isnt big by any means so it's just a matter or getting an extra couple of miles on the board. Thanks for future referance
You can use higher capacity batteries like DarkGamingMLG mentioned to increase the range. There are some trade-offs though. They're bigger, so you'll have less clearance under the board (especially with a drop-through deck), they'll make the board heavier, and they usually cost more. For my first build I used 6.6Ah batteries because I wanted a very long range. After riding a while I realized that I almost never rode more than 7 or 8 miles at a time (it gets tiring - especially on rough roads). For the occasions when I do want to ride a very long distance, I designed the battery setup to be easy to swap. That way I can put an extra set in my backpack if I need to. The 3Ah batteries I used here are only $21.60 each (link in description) so I bough 4 at one time so I have an extra set - it's also nice they already have XT60 connectors to match the ESC. If you're regularly going long distances the bigger battery might be a better choice. The great thing about building your own board is you can build it to match your requirements :)
Hey I know this is an older video. But his is pretty much the exact same build I’ve been looking into building, especially including the battery style. My only worry is range, if you get this comment what is the range of this board as it was?
If I got these batteries instead - ZIPPY Flightmax 4000mAh 6S1P 40C - would that increase the speed and range of my board? Also, could I still use the charger that you have recommended?
If you run two 6S batteries in series (12S) you'll probably damage the ESC and motors. They are both rated for a maximum of 10S voltage. I've run motors at higher voltage before and the burnt out after a few minutes. If you want a longer range I updated the description to include links to 4Ah and 5Ah battery options that should work well. As far as the charger, it supports up to 6S batteries so it would be fine.
Hey man. I'm back again. I've been looking into investing into the products that you've mention however is assembly of electronics hard? Could you make a video on it maybe?
Hey, that's great you're considering a build! I'm planning to make a video to go over the electronics and container installation more in the next few weeks. It's not too difficult to setup the electronics. Once you get the ESC mounted you just need to connect the 3 power wires to each motor and connect the battery. In my experience, the extra connectors for the hall sensors are not necessary. If the motors are spinning in the wrong direction after you connect everything just swap 2 of the motor wires. I hope this helps for now.
Sweet! Thanks man. I'll order the parts tonight and get things working. Thanks again for your time. Can't wait for your next upload.
Hi, did you try to put more than 36V on the motors anyhow like consequently connected batteries?
The ESC I'm using supports 10S (~36V) max voltage. I would need to use a different ESC, like VESC, to run higher voltage. Also, I think these motors aren't designed for higher voltage and might burn out.
Was the ESC that you bought compatible with the VESC Project tool?
The esc he uses is pre programmed
Great Video Loved it!!!!
Thank you!
Did you get a chance to test the top speed out with you dual VESC's. Im really curious to see if the top speed would be noticeably better or in the same ball park.
I didn't get a chance to hook the VESCs to the motors on this board. I'll have to try that. I'm guessing the top speed will be higher because the VESCs don't limit the RPM.
Let me know if you get a chance because it would be really interesting to see how much of a difference spending all that extra money for dual VESCS would make.
I'll let you know. It would be interesting to find out. I almost never go 20+ mph so for me the extra money for 2 VESCs and a remote is definitely not worth it.
Did you find a supplier for replacement pu tires?
I'm going to tackle this/your electric skateboard project. I ordered the hub motors and when I went to order the 'Dual Motor ESC with remote from Dickyho2015, it states the ESC is defaulted to voltage 6s. Will this suffice? And I was goin to purchase 2 Turnigy 5.0 5000mAh. Will these batteriess work as well?
How did you wire the circuit board? Do you have a video of you making this?
It's relatively straightforward to connect the ESC (circuit board). Each motor has 3 thicker wires and a small 5-wire connector for the hall sensors. The ESC has 2 sets of 3 wires (one set for each motor). You just need to connect the motor wires to the wires on the ESC. The colors don't matter (you can connect them in any order). Once you connect them check if the motor spins in the correct direction. If it's spinning backward just swap 2 of the motor wires. The 5-wire connector for the hall sensors also plugs into the ESC. I've noticed the motor works perfectly without them. I show some of the connections in my previous videos. I'll try to show more detail in my next video. I hope this helps.
Hey Body. i got the esc finally form china , the same one you have, but i think its defaulted for a 6s set up .
i have a 2x 5s 5000mah (10000mah total) how do i set the esc for 10s . Please help if you can!
The instruction says disconnect those 2 dots on position 2 on the picture, disconnect those 2 dots on position 3 on the picture. I'm not sure what that means! Do i need to solder?
I'm glad you finally got the ESC. Yeah, by default I think they're set to 6S. You can get 10S if you let them know when you order. Luckily it's a bit easier to go from 6S to 10S. You will need a soldering iron to break the solder connection in the locations shown in the ESC description. I recommend getting an iron that's 70-Watts or more, which will quickly melt the solder without heating up the board too much. An easy way to remove solder is to use a desoldering wick or if you don't have one use a piece of wire with many thin strands to wick the solder off the board when you heat it. I hope this helps.
Thank you men . I already ordered another one but still want to desolder the connection myself on the one I have now . Thanks again
where can i buy the wheel to change it ?
As long as the batteries, ESC, etc were in a sealed container, do you think the hub motors would be alright in the rain or just slightly wet conditions?
I think the motors should be fine in the rain - although I'd suspect it could shorten their life, along with the deck, bearings, etc. These motors and wheels are the same as the meepoboard and he rode through heavy rain with it. ruclips.net/video/MGokI-0Z6q8/видео.html
if I use more powerful motor, say 2000kw, is it possible to increase more speed?
I think you mean 2000w, 2000kw would be nice :). As far as top speed that would depend on the ESC. The ESC in this build limits the RPM so it probably won't go much over 21 - 22 mph (depending on the motor kv and wheel size). With a VESCs you should be able to reach higher speeds. However, even if you use the ESC from this build, having a 2000w motor will get you up steep hills faster.
Can you change the wheels if they get worn ? Or do you have to change the whole hub
I checked with the seller and he said the wheels on the motor cannot be changed. His reason is that it's to prevent the rubber from becoming loose, so you need to replace the whole hub. I don't think they'd need to be replaced for a long time though.
Hey can you tell me how to connect the connect the remote with the controller board? Thanksss
The ESC comes with the remote and they are usually already paired when they arrive. If you need to pair them the seller should provide the instructions (the eBay listing in the description includes instructions).
can you use these wheels under the kicktail? wont it hit the board while steering?
Yes, you can use these 90mm wheels with a kicktail. As an example see my followup video where I replaced the deck. You might occasionally get wheel bites with loose trucks though.
would using a lipo barrery over. 36 volts hurt the esc in any way
I'm not sure, but I wouldn't go higher than 10S voltage. The ESC can only be configured to a maximum of 10S so going higher might cause components to burn out. Also, the motors are not rated for more than 10S. I tried running lower voltage motors at higher voltage before and they burnt out after a few minutes.
Can you please make a video showing how to put all of this together?
I'll try to make another video with the connection details at some point. I show more detail in my previous video which might help. ruclips.net/video/x4-DNHn-SAc/видео.html
can you get the same speed with only one motor, I no it will have less power stating off. if so can you use the dual esc for just single motor. sorry new to building boards.
I haven't tried, but I'd guess 1 motor would be just a bit slower on flat smooth ground. You would notice a bigger difference on hills - also braking would be worse. For the ESC, the same seller on eBay also has a single motor version that is cheaper. I'm not sure if there is a single motor version of the hub motors I used. For the price, I think it's better it to get dual motors, unless you really want to make the board as light as possible. Here is a link to the single motor ESC: www.ebay.com/itm/single-motor-electric-longboard-skateboard-controller-ESC-Substitute-/302439713065
omg thank you for the quick response, Great Video btw.