Reason why nobody plays barb and fighter instead is bc of the ms meta. Fighter can be fast and tanky at the same time with range. Slower gear needs to offer more then just armor and weapon mastery needs a nerf.
instead range should be more weak than it is right now, making an exception on ranger being viable with it. move speed meta is ruining the pvp and this makes everyone choose to play range to farm hp or even hunt down people running away from fights, its hard to balance this becuase removing high caps of move speed would turn the game into a slower paced one and this could infurate the player base.
@@MachineCorp238 I agree about the movement speed. Everyone using range to get that chip damage in before they engage melee. Which turns into cat and mouse with ppl trying to run and heal. I thought about each class having a different movement speed cap but that's not going to work because it will pigeon hole a class in to a singular build. I think they need to add acceleration into the game. So when ppl slow themselves down by attacking or healing even stopping. They don't just got from 0 to max movement speed. That should take a few seconds. Maybe have this as a stat that can't be adjusted it's just a mechanic. Might be trash idea idk you would have to see what it feels like in fights. The idea though is it would be harder to heal/run during fights. For classes that have to kite will have a faster accel. idk like you said it's not easy to change something and one thing we all can agree on is stam bar sucks and we know that's not an option.
@@anomalyevolution40 I think there needs to be a harsher movespeed debuff when you get hit, maybe increase base movespeed to compensate a bit but you should be getting slowed for taking damage for sure, it shouldnt require spells or abilities to interrupt someones rythm
@@MachineCorp238just remove additional move speed rolls so that if you want high move speed you have to sacrifice high defense so you need to wear light gear to move fast and also cap move speed at like 310 bc no one need to be moving faster then that
have been talking with some friends about the state of fighter but im curious what your solution would be. i personally feel like they should revert the buffs to w mastery, swift and sprint. perhaps even making plate armor weigh slightly more as well
First of all thanks for commenting and sharing what do you think! really apreciate it :) Fighter its the main counterclass to pretty much all spellcasters, he is fast and can hit strong aswell, since the changes to w mastery now he can also do lots of good range damage (sometimes even more that ranger) but the main problem in the meta its the ability to cath up to enemies fast while just holding LMB, thus why the rondel dagger its so op at this moment, reverting w mastery wouldnt do much since you can still catch up to people pretty easy and thats the main problem (they cannot outrun you so they die fast) also with combo attack this wouldnt make no difference so either w mastery needs a nerf (this is not viable since would make the whole point of fighter being a weapon master useless)or maybe ner rondel dagger as a friend of minetold me of how to nerf this weapon: by making it have a 4 attack pattern instead of an unlimited one. this will be a easy start to ease down the rondel metta, nex thing that should be touched its the plate move speed revert, since they buffed it and it doesnt really help the situation, imo full plate fighters should only be able to catch up with sprint so making sprint good at the same time as nerfing plate should be the go-to. what do you feel about this?
@@MachineCorp238 ty for the content my friend. idk if you mis read my comment but we pretty much see eye to eye on most things it seems. i don't think rondel should be nerfed since its more so fighter that's the problem and i don't think rouge, druid, bard, or wizard should have to suffer
@@joshfromxbox i am sorry, i do agree with your coment i was just sharing what do i feel in a more deep way seems like we do agree with eachother, fair point on the rondel nerfs whatsoever, since you dont usually see people using rondel on other clases i was not caring about it to much, anyways seems pretty much anyone has notices the true potential of rondel and nowadays you can see pretty much any class using it (bard, rogue , fighter and even wizards too!) that why i encourage a nerf for this weapon since theres no cooldown and you can hit pretty fast with it while making pretty strong chunks of damage in seconds, ttk of daggers shouldnt be that low imo
Im a Fighter, yesterday only saw warlocks and druids, meta switching constantly sucks i have 300hours and i love this game, i stoped playing The Finals cause Meta changed alot and i dont like having to change class cause of meta. Im here since last season i was in Fighter Meta, Warlock Meta, Ranger Meta, now back to Fighter and i dont care about meta now but i only see Magic Penetrating my armour EZ!
honestly the problem is the players are getting too optimazied at the game and its making the game feel so stale and IM is simply not doing anything to combat this lack of new fun builds new wepons or spells, like 3 more rouge nerfs are not gonna make the game better.
Nah this guy has never been broke in the game ever. If you dont have the money to spend on bis you can build decent kits with other pieces which amounts to the same stats. You see tons of weird builds in the game, but also if you're on a budget and can only afford 1 kit will you build a good or a weird fun kit. Rogue needs a rework bad, class is weak because of landmine and due to the nerfs its forced to landmine.
This is why i stopped playing. They nerfed warlock over n over, wizard over n over, but buff the easy onboarding class until its the one and only do all unit that dominates all combat. Fun balance. Ms sucks
@@paxconsciente3352 rondel fighter meta is a skill issue? Not a MS issue, or a fighter perk issue balancing issue? Delusion is a place you must frequent, ill continue with my "skill issue", you should check that out
This game has fallen so so far from playtest 1. I hate being one of the OG all I do is think about how good it used to be. Super depressing. I haven’t installed this game back in months. Every patch shows the games sinking deeper and deeper into riot games league of legends nerf balance shenanigans. Iron mace failed me
i thought that cuz the other guy was crouching so thats why i said "are you guys teaming on me or what?" after that the other guy decided not to engage so i thought he would let me fight, instead he tried to help so i killed them both cuz i dont like teaming XD
most of the kills this raid were people out gearing me, also gear score its out there so they are not timmys if they are running 400+ gs XD. next vid ill do hr aswell tho.
Take away bows/crossbows from melee and you have a better game. If you want to play with those play a ranger
Reason why nobody plays barb and fighter instead is bc of the ms meta. Fighter can be fast and tanky at the same time with range. Slower gear needs to offer more then just armor and weapon mastery needs a nerf.
instead range should be more weak than it is right now, making an exception on ranger being viable with it. move speed meta is ruining the pvp and this makes everyone choose to play range to farm hp or even hunt down people running away from fights, its hard to balance this becuase removing high caps of move speed would turn the game into a slower paced one and this could infurate the player base.
@@MachineCorp238 I agree about the movement speed. Everyone using range to get that chip damage in before they engage melee. Which turns into cat and mouse with ppl trying to run and heal. I thought about each class having a different movement speed cap but that's not going to work because it will pigeon hole a class in to a singular build. I think they need to add acceleration into the game. So when ppl slow themselves down by attacking or healing even stopping. They don't just got from 0 to max movement speed. That should take a few seconds. Maybe have this as a stat that can't be adjusted it's just a mechanic. Might be trash idea idk you would have to see what it feels like in fights. The idea though is it would be harder to heal/run during fights. For classes that have to kite will have a faster accel. idk like you said it's not easy to change something and one thing we all can agree on is stam bar sucks and we know that's not an option.
@@anomalyevolution40 I think there needs to be a harsher movespeed debuff when you get hit, maybe increase base movespeed to compensate a bit but you should be getting slowed for taking damage for sure, it shouldnt require spells or abilities to interrupt someones rythm
@@MachineCorp238just remove additional move speed rolls so that if you want high move speed you have to sacrifice high defense so you need to wear light gear to move fast and also cap move speed at like 310 bc no one need to be moving faster then that
have been talking with some friends about the state of fighter but im curious what your solution would be. i personally feel like they should revert the buffs to w mastery, swift and sprint. perhaps even making plate armor weigh slightly more as well
First of all thanks for commenting and sharing what do you think! really apreciate it :)
Fighter its the main counterclass to pretty much all spellcasters, he is fast and can hit strong aswell, since the changes to w mastery now he can also do lots of good range damage (sometimes even more that ranger) but the main problem in the meta its the ability to cath up to enemies fast while just holding LMB, thus why the rondel dagger its so op at this moment, reverting w mastery wouldnt do much since you can still catch up to people pretty easy and thats the main problem (they cannot outrun you so they die fast) also with combo attack this wouldnt make no difference so either w mastery needs a nerf (this is not viable since would make the whole point of fighter being a weapon master useless)or maybe ner rondel dagger as a friend of minetold me of how to nerf this weapon: by making it have a 4 attack pattern instead of an unlimited one. this will be a easy start to ease down the rondel metta, nex thing that should be touched its the plate move speed revert, since they buffed it and it doesnt really help the situation, imo full plate fighters should only be able to catch up with sprint so making sprint good at the same time as nerfing plate should be the go-to. what do you feel about this?
@@MachineCorp238 ty for the content my friend. idk if you mis read my comment but we pretty much see eye to eye on most things it seems. i don't think rondel should be nerfed since its more so
fighter that's the problem and i don't think rouge, druid, bard, or wizard should have to suffer
@@joshfromxbox i am sorry, i do agree with your coment i was just sharing what do i feel in a more deep way seems like we do agree with eachother, fair point on the rondel nerfs whatsoever, since you dont usually see people using rondel on other clases i was not caring about it to much, anyways seems pretty much anyone has notices the true potential of rondel and nowadays you can see pretty much any class using it (bard, rogue , fighter and even wizards too!) that why i encourage a nerf for this weapon since theres no cooldown and you can hit pretty fast with it while making pretty strong chunks of damage in seconds, ttk of daggers shouldnt be that low imo
@@MachineCorp238 people have been using rondel for many wipes now it's only really been broken on fighting imo
@@MachineCorp238 rondel daggers have been used by multiple classes since the playtest and they've only felt broken on fighter. imo
increase the crap outta draw pull AND casting time and this game is going FAR.
they should nerf rogue imo
Im a Fighter, yesterday only saw warlocks and druids, meta switching constantly sucks i have 300hours and i love this game, i stoped playing The Finals cause Meta changed alot and i dont like having to change class cause of meta. Im here since last season i was in Fighter Meta, Warlock Meta, Ranger Meta, now back to Fighter and i dont care about meta now but i only see Magic Penetrating my armour EZ!
fighter has been meta for 8 months now get your head out of your ass
as if fighter isint the strongest class in solo together with warlock. 50% pdr and 30% mdr with 160 hp and decent ms with ranged option
honestly the problem is the players are getting too optimazied at the game and its making the game feel so stale and IM is simply not doing anything to combat this lack of new fun builds new wepons or spells, like 3 more rouge nerfs are not gonna make the game better.
maybe they should nerf ranger
Nah this guy has never been broke in the game ever. If you dont have the money to spend on bis you can build decent kits with other pieces which amounts to the same stats. You see tons of weird builds in the game, but also if you're on a budget and can only afford 1 kit will you build a good or a weird fun kit.
Rogue needs a rework bad, class is weak because of landmine and due to the nerfs its forced to landmine.
Title: Why D&D sucks
First clip: Fighter with bow
Video accuracy: 100%
the way fighter can make more damage than a ranger with a bow its so stupid to me
This is why i stopped playing. They nerfed warlock over n over, wizard over n over, but buff the easy onboarding class until its the one and only do all unit that dominates all combat. Fun balance. Ms sucks
Weird how they nerf the meta abusing warlocks and wizards and they are still strong. Mdr items do indeed suck
i cant believe you're a warlock player bitching about balance, it's litterally a skill issue dude.
@@paxconsciente3352 rondel fighter meta is a skill issue? Not a MS issue, or a fighter perk issue balancing issue? Delusion is a place you must frequent, ill continue with my "skill issue", you should check that out
fighter and barb needs a huge rework
barbs achilles skill so fucking dumb you get huge slow from fucking throwable weapon. fighters weapon mastery makes this class so flexible.
gotta be the change you want to see?
based phrase, next vid will be based on your comment. thanks for watching the video hope you liked it!
This game has fallen so so far from playtest 1. I hate being one of the OG all I do is think about how good it used to be. Super depressing. I haven’t installed this game back in months. Every patch shows the games sinking deeper and deeper into riot games league of legends nerf balance shenanigans. Iron mace failed me
el pepe
Why did you think those first two guys were teaming? The 2nd guy was helping you lol
i thought that cuz the other guy was crouching so thats why i said "are you guys teaming on me or what?" after that the other guy decided not to engage so i thought he would let me fight, instead he tried to help so i killed them both cuz i dont like teaming XD
@@MachineCorp238 I would have done the same thing 😂 nice double
@@keetonsimpson7240 thankyou haha! also thanks for watching the video hope you liked it! nex vid will be based on a non meta build
why are u pub stomping these timmys in normals why not play hr?
most of the kills this raid were people out gearing me, also gear score its out there so they are not timmys if they are running 400+ gs XD. next vid ill do hr aswell tho.
If you’re in normals over 124 you’re asking to be stomped. Or outplay and get a big come up 🤷🏻♂️