As someone who almost exclusively watches streams on mobile, the twitch app is TERRIBLE. RUclips has its problems, but good lord does twitch have more.
As a mostly-RUclips watcher who's getting used to Twitch, RUclips and Twitch chats suck in different ways. Like, on RUclips, you can't even tap to mention another chatter?? And Twitch has a lot of cool third party stuff like the one that lets chat vote on where to click on the screen. On the other hand, Twitch chats tend to rely a lot on third party emotes that you have to use a patched or alternative mobile client to see, and you can't pause/rewind streams (though some RUclips streamers including hololive disable that too). The thing that kept me off it so long was the preroll ads, but Twitch Turbo is a lot cheaper than subbing to every streamer I want to watch. (Though of course, if I want to use their emotes I have to subscribe as well...)
If you've got android there is something called Frosty. It's got bttv, 7tv and a while lot of other pkugins bundled inside it. I've not been able to use any other client since I got it.
Kiara always seems so happy when she's streaming one on one with people. I mean, she's pretty upbeat most of the time anyway, when she's alone or when she's in a larger group, she never seems quite as enthusiastic to me as when she just has one other person to talk to.
Easier to have a one on ones and easier to manage the weight of the conversation and screen time. With a whole group I'm sure she can go on and on like she does when she is the host of an event but when she participates in another's event she holds back quite a bit because she knows her fellow tubers well enough that they'd never talk if they don't have the opportunity/inclusion, ex. Gura and Ina, she knows they both don't do well in big groupings both online and irl.
@@kerrrobertson3699 Yeah, she's a huge extrovert, and has a very loud personality (in a good way). I can definitely see her reining herself in in groups so she doesn't just take over the conversation. She really shines in 1v1 conversations.
The worst part of Twitch ads is having something you're interested in come up, an interesting conversation or a cool scene in a game or something, then having all audio cut for 30 seconds out of nowhere while you get shilled something that is 110% unrelated to your life or interests
To me it was the sound volume difference between the stream and ads. I would have a stream on in the background and then some ad would start blasting in my ears. I even downloaded a extension to mute the site for the duration of a twitch ad playing.
Yeah, I absolutely hate using twitch for this reason. I do keep amazon prime (it's cheap here), and since I rarely watch twitch, I'll do a twitch prime sub when I want to get rid of ads.
Since 99% of the stuff I watch is either on my PC with Adblock or my ancient ass iPod Touch that is literally too old to support ads... I really don't have to worry. Honestly, it might be a good idea to hit "insert ad" when they go for "idol meetings" though.
Seriously, is blocking ads a rare skill these days? Everywhere I see these ad complaints and I just do not understand how these people live their lives with ads and not blocking them.
@@pachychon Exactly. I constantly see complaints about the apps, and those problems simply don't exist if you just open the site in a browser, including on the mobile versions.
There's one person I watch on Twitch these days and yeah, she times the ads to show up whenever she goes BRB. Still blasts your ears, but at least you don't miss anything important.
Chat did nothing wrong. This is proof that tyrantcho likes torturing people because she feels like it and needs to be punished. But honestly, I would rather take the ad button than the usual room. The ad button is more peaceful compared to that.
Honestly Twitch is fine. The chat is better than RUclips because it has more features and fun things you can do. The video is pretty much the same except for the ads which are pretty easy to block if you know the trick.
ye i used to like twitch and then i got banned because i typed the wrong password once and they thought i was a scammer trying to hack my own account and i needed to apeal directly to twitch to get my account back......... Since then i haven´t opened twitch on basic principle :/
I used to watch a lot of twitch but they just made it progressively worse. Mobile app is bad, ads are super long and too many and someone in the higher ups of twitch really hate vtubers cause they super enforce rules on them while they ignore non vtubers ignoring them (and this without counting the rules specifically against vtubers) The only good things are the members emote being global and the memes emotes from the addon programs. (but the emote addon has a yt version too for them, it's just not as used in yt)
Twitchs CEO has literally done interviews with vtubers (Fillian) and sucked dick hard to try and get the community to like Twitch but then they go and treat vtubers like the scum of the streaming world while allowing low class E-girls to feature on the home page with no repercusions and then wonder why people hate Twitch 😂. Plus the new TOS that raises the prices of memberships and lowers what streamers can make off their streams. Yeah its a shit show
Not choosing yt premium just to feel kiara's wrath on inserting ads on you as punishment will be a trend :D it'll let you feel like an immersive fan :D
It's funny because I've been using Twitch since the JustinTV days and it always felt more comfy watching lives there rather than the much newer RUclips streams. But ever since Twitch got bought by Amazon, things have... changed to put it lightly. I still enjoy the vibes there more but I definitely understand why so many people hate it, especially the younger generation who's more familiar with RUclips streaming now.
Recently I have been getting ads during streams on youtube even without the streamer hitting the ad button. My guess is that youtube is losing money from streaming which is why they never advertise streams and the home page is heavily skewed toward videos and shorts.
@@Krikenemp18 Laughs in ReVanced, NewPipe, Firefox, Samsung Internet, Brave, PiHole... There are a million options for mobile, take your pick. I haven't seen a RUclips ad on mobile for a good five years now.
@@Krikenemp18 I left a list of available options on mobile, RUclips filtered it. Point is, there are options. Look them up. The one I use starts with Re and ends with Vanced.
RUclips premium is better way to skip ad and support your oshi but also if youtube gives you 5 to 6 sec ad it's still acceptable unlike twitch where you get 2 to 3 20 min ads
twitch is thinking too much on business, like if a streamer is hated by their sponsors and their "VIP's" they are banned for life. that alone is more toxic than YT
Yes, pirate software talked about how much does twitch cost in different resolutions. I don't remember the price tag but 1080 resolution for 1 hour is like 2k dls by each person. A shit like that. Big streamers are problematic but the little streamers are sinkhole.
"Not in the livestream" Welllllll... if only that was true... but at least if they're a certain minimum length, we can skip them after 5 seconds, but that's 5 seconds that we don't see or hear what's happening in the stream. ...Of course, I think 6 seconds is under that minimum, so...
I'm a Mobile User, but goddamn Twitch now is fucking terrible asf. They try to mimic TikTok like wth. For RUclips, yeah there have bad issues but it is much easier to access for normies. And also in my country, we have RUclips mobile data subscriptions, it resets everday, so it doesn't consume your actual Mobile Data which it helps a lot for casual RUclips livestream watchers.
I personally prefer YT for a few reasons YT is more simple for me and I can get very confused very quickly and it's a put off and I find Twitch vert confusing. Also YT you can watch nearly anything from any time where *when I tryed Twitch once* someone back long was only like from a month and you can't watch stuff later then that :(
Ah, yes... Ads.... I totally get those. Totally don't use an ad blocker. Heavens, no! I'm so glad that 'Mint' decided to stay on RUclips. I was a fan of her and 'Friend N' since day one back in their previous job, but I cannot stand Twitch, either the site itself or the community, so I never ended up following 'Friend N' over there. 'Mint' staying here also means she can easily collab with her RUclips friends, too, so it's a win-win! You have my appreciation, Ms. Light-Turquoise Fantome!
Yeah, I stopped watching Twitch because that amount of ads just got ridiculously bad, especially if you just want to see what a streamer is doing, and you have to watch 6 ads sometimes.
The only related rule in Holo guidelines is for clippers to wait after the streams are completely processed by RUclips, 1-2 hour streams tends to process in less than a minute.
@@fernando4959 Neither do I, but the ones that usually dual stream to RUclips have their main accounts on twitch, so they focus their interactions with that chat, and if they show a chat on stream, they never show both. Same can be said the other way around.
@@fernando4959basically youtube chat gets ignored a lot or sometimes not even seen at all, plus youtube and Twitch have different rules so sometimes the streamer will just end the stream early on youtube so they can do something only allowed on Twitch and try to get everyone to migrate over there, which i personally refuse to do. the only person i really watch at all on Twitch is Maximilian Dood these days 😂 oh i almost forgot when they dual stream you also have to put up with all the annoying sound and videos clips everyone adds on twitch not to mention the horrendous TTS that people use to tell their “funny” jokes. i hate that stuff all it takes is one person trying to be funny to ruin important moments in a video game you are trying to watch them play.
Unfortunately, Twitch's simulcasting guidelines force streamers to treat Twitch as their main platform and make the stream watching experience there the best out of all of the platforms they're streaming to. So that feeling like a second class citizen if you're on RUclips while watching a Twitch simulcast is very much intentional and enforced.
RUclips is like capitalism Is very flawed, breaks down pretty often and plays unfair favorites. But at least is barely functional enough to be better than the alternatives we have right now
So when I'm watching streams I'm most often on my phone and by golly I hate the twitch mobile app. *Especially* the new version holy crap is it awful. RUclips is just a much simpler, more approachable app for me. Especially with a Premium membership. I only have like 2 subscriptions on twitch. One is Jesse Cox cuz his was a one time payment sub, the mad lad. The other is a guy I watch for Diablo content, DatModz. Other than that I really dont watch anybody because outside of subs or turbo its just ad city.
Twitch is terrible. The only positives I hear parroted constantly as to why it's superior is "The Community" and "You can get away with more". The first is just the existence of global emotes allowing easier hivemind meme culture and open raiding. The latter is varying because Twitch is also notorious for cracking down on people badly and unevenly, and historically has been pretty much anti-anime content for many many years, Vtubers recently have been getting the end of that stick while hot tub streamers who do far worse get a light slap on the wrist. RUclips has it's issues, like how they're part of Google's monopoly and the multiple issues that arises from that, and similarly unevenly applied enforcement and it's abusive DMCA system, but the end user experience is lightyears ahead of Twitch and RUclips has sustained VODs, while Twitch had done away with the archive a while back, with cases as well where if someone gets banner they also lose all archive with no means of recovery unlike RUclips where at least there is a path to recover the content in the worse case scenario.
It's always funny to see people on youtube complaining about ads on twitch, as if youtube didn't also have unskippable ADS nowadays and as if Turbo, which is the same thing as YT Premium, didn't exist. btw this thing about webcams is fake and this rumor was probably spread by Merryweather's misinfomation tweet.
at least for me personally i’ve never seen a block of five commercials back to back pop up on youtube that are also completely unable to be skipped, at most i’ve seen 3 and you can usually skip by the beginning of the second ad if not 15 seconds into the first. the streamers on twitch know this is a big issue as well since i’ve seen some of the more considerate Twitch streamers pause what they are doing and wait until the ad break is over for everyone. unfortunately when people are playing online games or stuff like Dark Souls that’s not really possible and an unlucky ad break can prevent people from seeing epic moments like a boss finally being defeated after an hour or more of failures, or someone winning an epic match against their rival in a fighting game.
Besides there not being obnoxiously long unskippable ads back to back in YT, the adblockers still work. On Twitch there seems to be something else regional wise because the best I can get is a 30 seconds "blank" screen telling me there is an ad running after trying various adblockers lots of people say removes them entirely. And Turbo is like 4 times more expensive for me than YT Premium and with the later I also get YT Music so I get all the Holo music with it.
The difference when it comes to vtubers is the ads on twitch can happen suddenly mid broadcast of the stream and they are much longer and unskippable compared to RUclips. Nobody wants ad 1 of 7 to pop up in the middle of an important moment.
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As someone who almost exclusively watches streams on mobile, the twitch app is TERRIBLE. RUclips has its problems, but good lord does twitch have more.
And it’s like the people running the thing are trying to make it worse.
What you need is "purpletv" (a twitch modded client) that has adblock built in
As a mostly-RUclips watcher who's getting used to Twitch, RUclips and Twitch chats suck in different ways. Like, on RUclips, you can't even tap to mention another chatter?? And Twitch has a lot of cool third party stuff like the one that lets chat vote on where to click on the screen. On the other hand, Twitch chats tend to rely a lot on third party emotes that you have to use a patched or alternative mobile client to see, and you can't pause/rewind streams (though some RUclips streamers including hololive disable that too).
The thing that kept me off it so long was the preroll ads, but Twitch Turbo is a lot cheaper than subbing to every streamer I want to watch. (Though of course, if I want to use their emotes I have to subscribe as well...)
If you've got android there is something called Frosty. It's got bttv, 7tv and a while lot of other pkugins bundled inside it.
I've not been able to use any other client since I got it.
Atleast twitch app allows free background play. I use twitch exclusively for ASMR and the background play is very useful.
Kiara always seems so happy when she's streaming one on one with people. I mean, she's pretty upbeat most of the time anyway, when she's alone or when she's in a larger group, she never seems quite as enthusiastic to me as when she just has one other person to talk to.
she’s just like me fr (introverted but likes talking)
Easier to have a one on ones and easier to manage the weight of the conversation and screen time. With a whole group I'm sure she can go on and on like she does when she is the host of an event but when she participates in another's event she holds back quite a bit because she knows her fellow tubers well enough that they'd never talk if they don't have the opportunity/inclusion, ex. Gura and Ina, she knows they both don't do well in big groupings both online and irl.
She also can't be quite as enthusiastic. Kiara is the type who could overpower a group. She has to reel it back a little bit
@@kerrrobertson3699 That's a good point. I could see her being conscientious of that.
@@kerrrobertson3699
Yeah, she's a huge extrovert, and has a very loud personality (in a good way). I can definitely see her reining herself in in groups so she doesn't just take over the conversation. She really shines in 1v1 conversations.
The worst part of Twitch ads is having something you're interested in come up, an interesting conversation or a cool scene in a game or something, then having all audio cut for 30 seconds out of nowhere while you get shilled something that is 110% unrelated to your life or interests
30 seconds is optimistic lol. But yeah, nothing like getting blue balled in a stream by a couple minutes of 6 ads
To me it was the sound volume difference between the stream and ads. I would have a stream on in the background and then some ad would start blasting in my ears. I even downloaded a extension to mute the site for the duration of a twitch ad playing.
Yeah, I absolutely hate using twitch for this reason. I do keep amazon prime (it's cheap here), and since I rarely watch twitch, I'll do a twitch prime sub when I want to get rid of ads.
Yeah when it's like ad 1 of 7 and it's minutes mid stream, can just take you out of the experience
It’s not even 30 seconds anymore I get 4 30 seconds ads at once
Hearing Mint laugh so hard is really wholesome!
It’s always nice to see Minto and Kiwawa together they have a beautiful friendship.
Since 99% of the stuff I watch is either on my PC with Adblock or my ancient ass iPod Touch that is literally too old to support ads... I really don't have to worry. Honestly, it might be a good idea to hit "insert ad" when they go for "idol meetings" though.
Seriously, is blocking ads a rare skill these days? Everywhere I see these ad complaints and I just do not understand how these people live their lives with ads and not blocking them.
Zoomers growing up on modern web/app design have become tech illiterate.
@@pachychon Exactly. I constantly see complaints about the apps, and those problems simply don't exist if you just open the site in a browser, including on the mobile versions.
They should hit ot when they need an idol meeting
Honestly, yeah. Might as well
Might as well, skippa skippa ❌❌ or surfa surfa 🌊🌊 while on idol meeting with ads.
There's one person I watch on Twitch these days and yeah, she times the ads to show up whenever she goes BRB. Still blasts your ears, but at least you don't miss anything important.
they could even have internal holo ads prepared for this if people dont find it too annoying
The insert ad would be usefull for idol meetings lol
Mint's model is cute
The fact thst her chibi looks a bit like a sheep helps
She looks so delicious (in an edible kind of way)
"You guys are being naughty... here, an add for, lets check, hemorroids cream and another for feet fungus, you can all cool off a little"
Gura: You guys like to emote so much when I mention feet? Here you go!
I love these two goofballs 🧡💞💚
🎶Yapapa yapapa ii shan ten~🎶
I can't wait for Hololive launching their own streaming service and finally free from RUclips and Twitch
The ads we get will all be of YAGOO displaying merch.
@@shepherdsgamingrun It's kind of a dangerous idea, because fans would be more eager to watch ads than the actual talents.
Chat did nothing wrong. This is proof that tyrantcho likes torturing people because she feels like it and needs to be punished. But honestly, I would rather take the ad button than the usual room. The ad button is more peaceful compared to that.
Twitch somehow being worse than youtube is always hillarious to me.
Honestly Twitch is fine. The chat is better than RUclips because it has more features and fun things you can do. The video is pretty much the same except for the ads which are pretty easy to block if you know the trick.
twitch is good for an interactive stream, however the ads is horrendous. I hate when I get ad when i'm immersed in the live!
as a platform is definitely better, but the culture is just very different so it might be seen as "worse"
They keep adding crappy stuff but its still much better than youtube for streaming and probably will always be
ye i used to like twitch and then i got banned because i typed the wrong password once and they thought i was a scammer trying to hack my own account and i needed to apeal directly to twitch to get my account back......... Since then i haven´t opened twitch on basic principle :/
I used to watch a lot of twitch but they just made it progressively worse.
Mobile app is bad, ads are super long and too many and someone in the higher ups of twitch really hate vtubers cause they super enforce rules on them while they ignore non vtubers ignoring them (and this without counting the rules specifically against vtubers)
The only good things are the members emote being global and the memes emotes from the addon programs. (but the emote addon has a yt version too for them, it's just not as used in yt)
Twitchs CEO has literally done interviews with vtubers (Fillian) and sucked dick hard to try and get the community to like Twitch but then they go and treat vtubers like the scum of the streaming world while allowing low class E-girls to feature on the home page with no repercusions and then wonder why people hate Twitch 😂. Plus the new TOS that raises the prices of memberships and lowers what streamers can make off their streams. Yeah its a shit show
If the ads are all gonna be just from Flying Gorilla, I'm ok with it.
Kanata's doing ads?
2:19 that's not really accurate Kiwawa... I've seen ads times in Risu livestream. and it happens couple times. 15sec ad unskippable
I suppose you don't have premium, right? Do you have adblockers that work otherwise?
*U* might want to *BLOCK* this ads yourself, there's some options but I don't know if I can tell you the *ORIGIN* of them
A toilet ad-break wouldnt be so bad, if it meant they can go with some more time.
Her plan is super flawed though.
I thought "yappa yappa" was like the Pokemon cry for girls
Punished KFP
bro is fast fast
All the best indies stream on RUclips anyway. Mint, Dokibird, Caspurr, Randon...
2:52 you can see the moment she starts contemplating the idea at its fullest
You hit the add button when you go to the loo, so chat can stretch their legs as well.
Not choosing yt premium just to feel kiara's wrath on inserting ads on you as punishment will be a trend :D it'll let you feel like an immersive fan :D
Many KFP members have been in the Usual Room. We are just built different.
Laughs in youtube Revanced
mint is definitely neutral evil lol
Ads? *laughs in adblocker*
The Italian Blessing is amazing Kiara, don’t act like you don’t love her.
thanks a lot mint
Oh right. Ads are supposedly a thing that exists.
Superchat/Memberships/Donations exist; great for a CEO to earn extra money
Minto
It's funny because I've been using Twitch since the JustinTV days and it always felt more comfy watching lives there rather than the much newer RUclips streams.
But ever since Twitch got bought by Amazon, things have... changed to put it lightly. I still enjoy the vibes there more but I definitely understand why so many people hate it, especially the younger generation who's more familiar with RUclips streaming now.
The biggest benefit of RUclips streams is that you can join live anytime and start from the beginning.
For quiet and the lurker type it's amazing.
Be funny if they used their own ads. Be watching a stream, then BAM Kronii's toothpaste ad
Recently I have been getting ads during streams on youtube even without the streamer hitting the ad button. My guess is that youtube is losing money from streaming which is why they never advertise streams and the home page is heavily skewed toward videos and shorts.
Certainly happen but it rare enough that i don't see it as a problem since it short unlike twitch unskippable long ads
Then the Phoenix had an idea. An awful idea. The Phoenix had a wonderful, awful idea.
If you wanna avoid ads and have a vpn, vpn to places where twitch don't serve ads
If the ads help support the streamer and its a short one then its no biggie😂😂😂
Remember everyone, you don't have to tolerate ads. Adblockers are accessable and easy to use.
Except on mobile, and YT is constantly fighting them so they don't work half the time.
@@Krikenemp18 Laughs in ReVanced, NewPipe, Firefox, Samsung Internet, Brave, PiHole... There are a million options for mobile, take your pick. I haven't seen a RUclips ad on mobile for a good five years now.
@@Krikenemp18 I left a list of available options on mobile, RUclips filtered it. Point is, there are options. Look them up. The one I use starts with Re and ends with Vanced.
RUclips premium is better way to skip ad and support your oshi but also if youtube gives you 5 to 6 sec ad it's still acceptable unlike twitch where you get 2 to 3 20 min ads
You can buy something like RUclips premium for twitch that skips ads and it’s cheaper than RUclips premium. It’s called twitch turbo.
Only 2-3? I've been low rolling my whole life
RUclips ads recently for me have been on average 30-50 seconds lately
That's why I despise Twitch so much. Their Ads are way too invasive and you are forced to watch if you want to keep watching
@@steel16880Still better than the 3 consecutive unskippable 2-3 minutes McDonald’s ads I’ve been getting over at Twitch
I mean I think a streamer inserting adds is fine, I hate missing part of a stream that a streamer wants everyone to see tho
It would be funny to make a meme out of deez... Your oshi choses between 2 doors of comfort room with signs on it as _idol meeting_ & _ads_ . 😂
twitch is thinking too much on business, like if a streamer is hated by their sponsors and their "VIP's" they are banned for life. that alone is more toxic than YT
problem is twitch has never been profitable I think. so they get pressure from amazon to earn more money.
Yes, pirate software talked about how much does twitch cost in different resolutions.
I don't remember the price tag but 1080 resolution for 1 hour is like 2k dls by each person. A shit like that.
Big streamers are problematic but the little streamers are sinkhole.
PREMIUM GANG OUH OUH OUH ! !
Also pray that youtube doesn't start doing pre roll ads lol
given the new twitch update... no way
Jokes on them, I have adblock.
in the blocker we trust
me and the boys knowledge about twitch = 0
me and the boys hating on twitch = 🤬✊
Me who uses both RUclips and Twitch: "Each has their own unenviable problems."
Ban Mint, she's giving Kiara too much power
Featured ghost not ghost girl Idea dropped
*Adblok do your job*
Featured ghost not ghost girl Idea instabloked 草
Premium gang go brrr
A worse place than The Usual Room, the AD trap :/
"Not in the livestream" Welllllll... if only that was true... but at least if they're a certain minimum length, we can skip them after 5 seconds, but that's 5 seconds that we don't see or hear what's happening in the stream. ...Of course, I think 6 seconds is under that minimum, so...
SHE HATES US
Was that 2D or 3D model Mint used?
2D
Jokes on you I don't even need "Premium". 😏
JOKE’S ON HER, I HAVE PREMIUM 😂
I prefer Twitch, all the cool add-ons and emotes are better
Sarebbe molto diveretente se Raora continua a italianizzare parole in inglese e far pensare che quello è italiano cento per cento corretto
the twitch app sucks, but the ad complaint i find funny. twitch literally has turbo which is just youtube premium.
I was really hoping Mint would be the fifth member of HoloJustice when they were announced, but now I'm happy for her sucessful indie career.
Premium gang 💪
you guys still get ads?
I'm a Mobile User, but goddamn Twitch now is fucking terrible asf. They try to mimic TikTok like wth.
For RUclips, yeah there have bad issues but it is much easier to access for normies.
And also in my country, we have RUclips mobile data subscriptions, it resets everday, so it doesn't consume your actual Mobile Data which it helps a lot for casual RUclips livestream watchers.
The only pro of Twitch are those emotes
I personally prefer YT for a few reasons
YT is more simple for me and I can get very confused very quickly and it's a put off and I find Twitch vert confusing. Also YT you can watch nearly anything from any time where *when I tryed Twitch once* someone back long was only like from a month and you can't watch stuff later then that :(
Ah, yes... Ads.... I totally get those. Totally don't use an ad blocker. Heavens, no!
I'm so glad that 'Mint' decided to stay on RUclips. I was a fan of her and 'Friend N' since day one back in their previous job, but I cannot stand Twitch, either the site itself or the community, so I never ended up following 'Friend N' over there. 'Mint' staying here also means she can easily collab with her RUclips friends, too, so it's a win-win! You have my appreciation, Ms. Light-Turquoise Fantome!
The issue twitch has is it's unprofitable. Yt streaming likely isn't either but it's subsidized by all of yt.
Yeah, I stopped watching Twitch because that amount of ads just got ridiculously bad, especially if you just want to see what a streamer is doing, and you have to watch 6 ads sometimes.
Italian *adition, not edition lol
Kiara shilling big RUclips propaganda
eh? we don't have to wait 24hr since their last video?😳 (saw many others clipper too)
That's only a rule for some vtubers, no hololive member has that rule as far as I'm aware.
The only related rule in Holo guidelines is for clippers to wait after the streams are completely processed by RUclips, 1-2 hour streams tends to process in less than a minute.
I have no problem if they want to dual stream, I just hate to feel like a second class citizen whenever a streamer does.
why do you feel that?
real question since I don't use twitch
@@fernando4959 Neither do I, but the ones that usually dual stream to RUclips have their main accounts on twitch, so they focus their interactions with that chat, and if they show a chat on stream, they never show both. Same can be said the other way around.
@@fernando4959basically youtube chat gets ignored a lot or sometimes not even seen at all, plus youtube and Twitch have different rules so sometimes the streamer will just end the stream early on youtube so they can do something only allowed on Twitch and try to get everyone to migrate over there, which i personally refuse to do. the only person i really watch at all on Twitch is Maximilian Dood these days 😂
oh i almost forgot when they dual stream you also have to put up with all the annoying sound and videos clips everyone adds on twitch not to mention the horrendous TTS that people use to tell their “funny” jokes. i hate that stuff all it takes is one person trying to be funny to ruin important moments in a video game you are trying to watch them play.
Unfortunately, Twitch's simulcasting guidelines force streamers to treat Twitch as their main platform and make the stream watching experience there the best out of all of the platforms they're streaming to. So that feeling like a second class citizen if you're on RUclips while watching a Twitch simulcast is very much intentional and enforced.
@@DrOpty That is absolutely horrendous
RUclips is like capitalism
Is very flawed, breaks down pretty often and plays unfair favorites. But at least is barely functional enough to be better than the alternatives we have right now
So when I'm watching streams I'm most often on my phone and by golly I hate the twitch mobile app. *Especially* the new version holy crap is it awful.
RUclips is just a much simpler, more approachable app for me. Especially with a Premium membership.
I only have like 2 subscriptions on twitch. One is Jesse Cox cuz his was a one time payment sub, the mad lad. The other is a guy I watch for Diablo content, DatModz. Other than that I really dont watch anybody because outside of subs or turbo its just ad city.
All you ad complainers are really just telling everyone you are tech illeterate. Even on phones and tablets blocking ads is feasible.
Twitch is terrible. The only positives I hear parroted constantly as to why it's superior is "The Community" and "You can get away with more".
The first is just the existence of global emotes allowing easier hivemind meme culture and open raiding. The latter is varying because Twitch is also notorious for cracking down on people badly and unevenly, and historically has been pretty much anti-anime content for many many years, Vtubers recently have been getting the end of that stick while hot tub streamers who do far worse get a light slap on the wrist.
RUclips has it's issues, like how they're part of Google's monopoly and the multiple issues that arises from that, and similarly unevenly applied enforcement and it's abusive DMCA system, but the end user experience is lightyears ahead of Twitch and RUclips has sustained VODs, while Twitch had done away with the archive a while back, with cases as well where if someone gets banner they also lose all archive with no means of recovery unlike RUclips where at least there is a path to recover the content in the worse case scenario.
It's always funny to see people on youtube complaining about ads on twitch, as if youtube didn't also have unskippable ADS nowadays and as if Turbo, which is the same thing as YT Premium, didn't exist.
btw this thing about webcams is fake and this rumor was probably spread by Merryweather's misinfomation tweet.
at least for me personally i’ve never seen a block of five commercials back to back pop up on youtube that are also completely unable to be skipped, at most i’ve seen 3 and you can usually skip by the beginning of the second ad if not 15 seconds into the first. the streamers on twitch know this is a big issue as well since i’ve seen some of the more considerate Twitch streamers pause what they are doing and wait until the ad break is over for everyone. unfortunately when people are playing online games or stuff like Dark Souls that’s not really possible and an unlucky ad break can prevent people from seeing epic moments like a boss finally being defeated after an hour or more of failures, or someone winning an epic match against their rival in a fighting game.
Besides there not being obnoxiously long unskippable ads back to back in YT, the adblockers still work. On Twitch there seems to be something else regional wise because the best I can get is a 30 seconds "blank" screen telling me there is an ad running after trying various adblockers lots of people say removes them entirely.
And Turbo is like 4 times more expensive for me than YT Premium and with the later I also get YT Music so I get all the Holo music with it.
The difference when it comes to vtubers is the ads on twitch can happen suddenly mid broadcast of the stream and they are much longer and unskippable compared to RUclips.
Nobody wants ad 1 of 7 to pop up in the middle of an important moment.
But chat experience in Twitch is better tho
twitch is a cesspool. im very happy they dont stream on there
I don't twitch. It's ded platform.
Now that I think about it now we have the Austrian, the Italian, the German and the Japanese... Yabe 💀