Death doesn’t really kill or go after people because she is the personification of death, she just collects who was meant to die. It implies that Nicholas was meant to be born a stillborn, then Death allowed Agatha to keep him as long as she supplied her with bodies in return and Agatha used that power to keep him alive. I also think Nicky had some level of understanding when Death came for him which is why he was so willing and knew to kiss his mom goodbye when Death pointed at her. Agatha developed an addiction to the power which is why she couldn’t control it, similarly to the rest of the coven she gained what she was missing (control) then died. I think she used the shame that she carried as an excuse to steal the life of other witches for centuries because she didn’t want to see her son since she couldn’t save him. That’s why she let people believe she traded Nicky for the Darkhold, she thinks willingly giving him up is less shameful than not being able to save her own child from Death.
The finale of a show usually leaves a lot to be desired. I didn't find myself needing anything more. It was the perfect end for me . They did leave it open to continue a story for Jen and Billy though.
He was just like Nicky: His optimism and belief in the goodness of others made her think she was capable of more than she knew. And Joe Locke? He turned out to hold his own in this, didnt he?
24:43 that's not to gather power My interpretation is that absorbing power gives her enormous pleasure, and she was using this pleasure to supress her grief
i think it just so she can survive, cuz if you remembered in episode 6 when billy searching for Agatha on Brujapedia i guess that's the name? there is fun fact that said Agatha posess Succubus Power
Agatha told Billy from the start that the road didn't exist.. "The Kiss of Death" was actually beautiful. Agatha said, "You I made from "Scratch"" an his name is "Nicholas" aka Nicholas Scratch. Death said Agatha was special, she was special cause Death gave her more time. Its like it was "Agatha All Along."
I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, but it makes sense that Agatha was so adamant about the song lyrics being "coven two"...she and Nicky were her coven, so she only became a covenless witch when he died Lol I ALMOST feel sorry for Agatha, cuz her story was heartbreaking, but using that song, that was basically a lullaby of sorts for Nicky, to knock off other witches is some diabolical 💩
The fact that my man was that powerful to create the road from just sheer thought… 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 Nicky created the song with Agatha’s guidance and now in her grief over his death she uses the song to steal other witches life force…. Poetic!!
Agatha Ep 7 Loki Season 2 Finale & WandaVision Season Finale were magnificently written, directed & portrayed. I felt so sad for Alice, my girl finally got the cursed lifted just to die the next episode. That poor town lol they can’t seem to catch a break! When he came in with his comic accurate outfit I was in my room screeeeeeeeeeeeeeaming!!!
Wandavision will always be my top show, but Agatha has just booted Loki out of the second spot on my list. What an amazing show! Absolutely stellar story telling.
I believed they were pulling a “it was all a dream” move when Billie was first realizing that he created the road, but he actually just manifested the witches’ road like Wanda manifested “sitcom Westview”
Billy’s creation seems more complex bc Wanda had 1 witch to deal with, Billy had 4 other witches with him and he unknowingly ended 2 of them (and Sharon). Billy the GOAT. Happy gourd worship day lil Pumpkin 🎃
@ oh absolutely Billy has the better manifested reality. He didn’t even mentally control the other witches like Wanda did the people of Westview. I love Wanda but she was holding the townsfolk hostage! Happy Halloweenie to you too
Now that I've watched this last episode so many times, I'm starting to think the time Rio gave Agatha kept the bodies coming. So when Nicholas skipped that bunch Rio came...sorry you forgot to fill the meter. And everything Agatha did after was to keep Rio away from her.
@@ManicMeeks Sis you be getting me everything... i be so tuned in that i be having to answer your questions soon as you say them... i need to just sit back and watch the whole thing first but ba-bey the way you be having me tuned in, stressed out, falling out and mouth wide open right there with you everytime!!!!
We’ve got Vision Quest and Wonder Man next up on the Maximoff-adjacent storylines. Avengers Doomsday will presumably be the Children’s Crusade adaptation, Billy and Tommy will reunite and find Wanda being held by Doom after her alleged suicide and hiatus reported by Strange, just like the comic.
Here we go! I enjoyed the finale episodes but I’m left with more questions: (1) Was Agatha stealing magic from other witches to protect Nick and keep him alive? (He was born sick and seemed to look pale/ thin just before she attacked other witches but then looked a little healthier after Agatha gained more power). (2) Who was the man in Jennifer’s hallucination in the first trial if Agatha was the person that bound her? (3) If Agatha didn’t trade Nicholas for the Darkhold how did she get it (I honestly thought that she did walk the witches’ road before and that’s how she got the Darkhold…) (4) Who is Agatha’s baby daddy?!?! The list goes on!
she traded her future child for the darkhold decades before probably why her original coven decided to execute her for practicing dark magic. so when she finally was pregnant and eventually gave birth lady death was waiting for her child
The doctor in Jen’s hallucination could’ve just been a a random man that traumatized her, calling her an “inconvenient” woman and all. She could’ve been smarter than him in the medical field and he felt threatened by it, anything could explain that considering how women (AND black women especially) were treated in those days. I saw someone else mention that the one time Agatha didn’t kill the witches Nicholas died that night; but I don’t think there was a direct correlation. Rio made it clear he had to die and was breaking the rules by even letting him survive infancy so u think the jig was just up at that point
Agatha mentioned she did "spell for a buck" so i guess she enchanted smth for that man for money and went on her way without giving a though what he will do with it .
1. She's a Succubus, so she feels pleasure from absorbing powers. Nicky might have gotten some additional benefit from it, possibly. 2. Jen was probably assaulted by some jealous man that was angry she was better versed in magic than him. 3. She likely traded her future child for the power of the Darkhold, and then didn't wa t the deal to go through. 4. Witches in the coven would have children to continue to coven
I wonder what the property value is in Westview. Those are some nice looking houses. With all the witch stuff, even my credit might be able to buy a house there. Just take a short vacay whenever someone new comes to town. 😉 But seriously, this show was crazy. I need to watch it again from the beginning knowing that Agatha knew about Billy and seeing Lilia's outbursts. There were a couple comments and actions early on that I didn't get until after these episodes.
I was hoping they'd bring Sharon, Alice and Lilia back. I wished they had at least shown Rio coming to take Sharon and Lilia as well, but maybe it would be too repetitive. I still wished they had done it, somehow.
Just like you said, it'll be repetitive. Besides, their characters are not that important Only Jennifer Kale is because she is a member of midnight sons in comics, and she is a cousin to ghost rider as well
Death doesn’t really kill or go after people because she is the personification of death, she just collects who was meant to die. It implies that Nicholas was meant to be born a stillborn, then Death allowed Agatha to keep him as long as she supplied her with bodies in return and Agatha used that power to keep him alive. I also think Nicky had some level of understanding when Death came for him which is why he was so willing and knew to kiss his mom goodbye when Death pointed at her.
Agatha developed an addiction to the power which is why she couldn’t control it, similarly to the rest of the coven she gained what she was missing (control) then died.
I think she used the shame that she carried as an excuse to steal the life of other witches for centuries because she didn’t want to see her son since she couldn’t save him. That’s why she let people believe she traded Nicky for the Darkhold, she thinks willingly giving him up is less shameful than not being able to save her own child from Death.
The finale of a show usually leaves a lot to be desired. I didn't find myself needing anything more. It was the perfect end for me . They did leave it open to continue a story for Jen and Billy though.
Yeah. Lilia said Jen is the future. I'm like is she an important character in the Marvel universe?
@@ManicMeeks The only thing I found in the Marvel comic lore is that she ends up being a love interest to Man-Thing
@@xenomorphrules6982Can you imagine? 😂
He was just like Nicky: His optimism and belief in the goodness of others made her think she was capable of more than she knew.
And Joe Locke? He turned out to hold his own in this, didnt he?
Yes he is.
24:43 that's not to gather power
My interpretation is that absorbing power gives her enormous pleasure, and she was using this pleasure to supress her grief
i think it just so she can survive, cuz if you remembered in episode 6 when billy searching for Agatha on Brujapedia i guess that's the name? there is fun fact that said Agatha posess Succubus Power
Fitting that a show about witches would leave breadcrumbs throughout the season
Agatha told Billy from the start that the road didn't exist.. "The Kiss of Death" was actually beautiful. Agatha said, "You I made from "Scratch"" an his name is "Nicholas" aka Nicholas Scratch. Death said Agatha was special, she was special cause Death gave her more time. Its like it was "Agatha All Along."
I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, but it makes sense that Agatha was so adamant about the song lyrics being "coven two"...she and Nicky were her coven, so she only became a covenless witch when he died
Lol I ALMOST feel sorry for Agatha, cuz her story was heartbreaking, but using that song, that was basically a lullaby of sorts for Nicky, to knock off other witches is some diabolical 💩
The fact that my man was that powerful to create the road from just sheer thought… 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
Nicky created the song with Agatha’s guidance and now in her grief over his death she uses the song to steal other witches life force…. Poetic!!
Agatha Ep 7
Loki Season 2 Finale &
WandaVision Season Finale were magnificently written, directed & portrayed.
I felt so sad for Alice, my girl finally got the cursed lifted just to die the next episode.
That poor town lol they can’t seem to catch a break!
When he came in with his comic accurate outfit I was in my room screeeeeeeeeeeeeeaming!!!
As a huge Young Justice fan...the scream I screamt...and if I don't get all my Jersey kids in a show/movie soon...
@ young avengers you mean lol but yes that scream was definitely worth it for all to hear…..
Agatha the original MLM influencer 😭
Wandavision will always be my top show, but Agatha has just booted Loki out of the second spot on my list. What an amazing show! Absolutely stellar story telling.
Same here 💜
I believed they were pulling a “it was all a dream” move when Billie was first realizing that he created the road, but he actually just manifested the witches’ road like Wanda manifested “sitcom Westview”
Billy’s creation seems more complex bc Wanda had 1 witch to deal with, Billy had 4 other witches with him and he unknowingly ended 2 of them (and Sharon).
Billy the GOAT.
Happy gourd worship day lil Pumpkin 🎃
@ oh absolutely Billy has the better manifested reality. He didn’t even mentally control the other witches like Wanda did the people of Westview. I love Wanda but she was holding the townsfolk hostage!
Happy Halloweenie to you too
Absorbing witches power is one helluva way to self medicate Agatha sheesh
Hey...she's a succubus.
She has to survive - as she said in the end as a ghost, she can't face Nicholas. 😭
@@marclopez9287 a succubus uses seduction and x-rated shenanigans to drain their soul. Agatha is just a straight-up energy vampire
Right? Like, just visit a dispensary and listen to some Enya.
@@wanderingseth lol like Colin Robinson. I guess I was just going with a Jac Schaefer interview where she somewhat akin to her as one.
Now that I've watched this last episode so many times, I'm starting to think the time Rio gave Agatha kept the bodies coming. So when Nicholas skipped that bunch Rio came...sorry you forgot to fill the meter. And everything Agatha did after was to keep Rio away from her.
Billy....... sometimes boys die 🥲
That hurt my whole entire heart. I need to know the story of Agatha and Death. Like HOW did we get here?!
@@ManicMeeks RIGHT!!
Hey Mami!!! It was very satisfying and I was gagged. It was Agatha all along but so was Billy all along. Billy is just like his bio mom.
the road is real now, Billy created it!
Exactly! That why he had to close that thang. I'm like Jen is walking away believe it is actually real now. wow.
@@ManicMeeks Sis you be getting me everything... i be so tuned in that i be having to answer your questions soon as you say them... i need to just sit back and watch the whole thing first but ba-bey the way you be having me tuned in, stressed out, falling out and mouth wide open right there with you everytime!!!!
If you include “I Am Groot” & the two Specials, there are 50 MCU projects. “Agatha” falls within my top 20.
We’ve got Vision Quest and Wonder Man next up on the Maximoff-adjacent storylines. Avengers Doomsday will presumably be the Children’s Crusade adaptation, Billy and Tommy will reunite and find Wanda being held by Doom after her alleged suicide and hiatus reported by Strange, just like the comic.
Oh you're right! I really forgot that there's a story involving doctor doom and scarlet witch being a captive. Hopefully they'll adapt this
Here we go! I enjoyed the finale episodes but I’m left with more questions: (1) Was Agatha stealing magic from other witches to protect Nick and keep him alive? (He was born sick and seemed to look pale/ thin just before she attacked other witches but then looked a little healthier after Agatha gained more power). (2) Who was the man in Jennifer’s hallucination in the first trial if Agatha was the person that bound her? (3) If Agatha didn’t trade Nicholas for the Darkhold how did she get it (I honestly thought that she did walk the witches’ road before and that’s how she got the Darkhold…) (4) Who is Agatha’s baby daddy?!?! The list goes on!
she traded her future child for the darkhold decades before probably why her original coven decided to execute her for practicing dark magic. so when she finally was pregnant and eventually gave birth lady death was waiting for her child
@ that makes perfect sense - thank you 😊
The doctor in Jen’s hallucination could’ve just been a a random man that traumatized her, calling her an “inconvenient” woman and all. She could’ve been smarter than him in the medical field and he felt threatened by it, anything could explain that considering how women (AND black women especially) were treated in those days. I saw someone else mention that the one time Agatha didn’t kill the witches Nicholas died that night; but I don’t think there was a direct correlation. Rio made it clear he had to die and was breaking the rules by even letting him survive infancy so u think the jig was just up at that point
Agatha mentioned she did "spell for a buck" so i guess she enchanted smth for that man for money and went on her way without giving a though what he will do with it .
1. She's a Succubus, so she feels pleasure from absorbing powers. Nicky might have gotten some additional benefit from it, possibly.
2. Jen was probably assaulted by some jealous man that was angry she was better versed in magic than him.
3. She likely traded her future child for the power of the Darkhold, and then didn't wa t the deal to go through.
4. Witches in the coven would have children to continue to coven
I wonder what the property value is in Westview. Those are some nice looking houses. With all the witch stuff, even my credit might be able to buy a house there. Just take a short vacay whenever someone new comes to town. 😉
But seriously, this show was crazy. I need to watch it again from the beginning knowing that Agatha knew about Billy and seeing Lilia's outbursts. There were a couple comments and actions early on that I didn't get until after these episodes.
Billy done Keyser Söze'd the whole shit!!!!!! 🤣 Agatha was puttin Witches in the Dirt fa'reelz tho!!!!! 😂
13:35 Agatha really scared the shit out of you 😂😂😂🔥❤ Yeah me too😂
2 episodes in under 30 is crazy lol
Most of the episodes I was sitting with my mouth open lol
Agatha and Nickolas were serial witch killers...😢😮😅
I was hoping they'd bring Sharon, Alice and Lilia back. I wished they had at least shown Rio coming to take Sharon and Lilia as well, but maybe it would be too repetitive. I still wished they had done it, somehow.
Just like you said, it'll be repetitive. Besides, their characters are not that important
Only Jennifer Kale is because she is a member of midnight sons in comics, and she is a cousin to ghost rider as well
I hope they get to Tommy before death does
You think they’ll get a season 2?
Was that an "All Dogs Go to Heaven" reference?! Good job! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
ABSO-FRICKIN-LUTELY!