Seiko Weekdater Sea Lion Vintage Watch Restoration
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- Опубликовано: 20 июн 2021
- Marshall picks up a partially working Seiko Weekdater with a nice 8306A movement from eBay hoping to turn it into a nice summer watch.
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My grandfather was a watchmaker, and all I ever wanted was his tools, and I received them when he passed away along with his wedding ring. He was married a few months before the 1929 Wall Street crash, and he kept himself alive servicing railroad conductor watches, as they were required to be serviced every six months. He got a buck a watch. That was about $70 a month income, and Gramma made $50 a month as a bookkeeper.
I was working on watches with Grampa as a 12 year old. He'd let me replace crystals, replace broken stems and bands, and after a while, I got to clean and oil them if they were simpler movements, and adjust them on the timer. The timer had a paper tape, not a digital readout, and after cleaning and timing we included a piece of the paper strip to show the watch was keeping time.
After a 48 year hiatus, I'm ready to get back at it. Thanks for inspiring me, Marshall. Don't outbid me on ebay! 🙂
Great lume job, great overall performance thanks for the mistakes ,great instruction
Out of all the watches that you've restored, I want this one the most. It's a beautifully simple design.
100% agree
Me three.
That movement did not look simple to me. Gorgeous restoration.
Wow me to. There's just something about it i really like. even the dial illumination
I've looked all over for one but havemt been able to find one. I don't have a collection, but I'm affraod this is he watch that will start it for me. D,X
Hi Marshall. Firstly thanks for the shout out, I really appreciate that and I am glad that my video came to your rescue!
It is really interesting to see how someone else strips down and rebuilds this one as we do things quite differently. It’s ironic that you lose that spring when near the start you are moving the lever it loads! That said it’s real easy for those to fly. I made a spring recently for a 6619 that has the same setup.
This movement was in the days when the “magic lever “ auto works was just coming out simplifying the engineering considerably. A you can see on the 8603 the auto works is a lot more involved. Seiko have been amazing at simplifying engineering.
As for diafix I would just clean them , refit and then use a 1A auto oiler as it makes it so much easier. The springs I have done a video on a long time ago on how to release them safely. It’s best to leave the ends of the horseshoe in situ and just push back the tab as you can then lift them upwards to access the jewels without removing.
Love a new channel. Just subscribed and will see you over there.
@@nickwarburton6710 thank you
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I'm a precision machinist and watching this work makes me feel like a blacksmith! Fascinating stuff.
What’s wrong with a blacksmith lol
Sometimes, if you turn out the lights and shine a small flashlight around... You can see... sometimes.. a metallic glint from the little part that flew away.
Great tip, thanks!
@@VWatchie You are very welcome!
As a watch maker in the 1950-60's I appreciate your videos. You are doing a great job with good commentary.
Lume under the hands and on the ends of applied markers is genius for a dress watch. Kudos to Seiko. Good job on the rebuild. Great vid. Keep at it!
It's a really intersting design.
Yeah, super-cool.
Completely agree! I’ve been restoring watches and servicing movements for well over 10 years and never seen indirect lighting techniques used for lume! Brilliant! Of course Seiko are smart enough to know to do this, it is the subtle things like the plain dial and color of grey with slight blue that teases you for a bit more color drama but is perfect in its current hue. Seiko are the greatest watchmakers because they make a watch for all people.... from low cost to their Credor minute repeaters that go for $400K, the Grand Seiko that are finer than a Rolex, as well as making less than $100 mechanical watches along with many quartz models.
That lume is to die for - as is the rest of the watch. What a great restoration job - even if you did beat yourself up over the minor mishaps. I LOVE Seiko, and I think this video illustrates why. Their watches are brilliantly engineered, affordable (for the most part) and under that apparently simplistic design is a world of thought and creativity. Just fabulous. Thanks for posting such a great video.
About 14 minutes in, you were talking about the kind of folks who watch your videos. I've always been fascinated with watches, and other kind of "clock-work" devices (wind-up toys, etc.). I even tried to start along the path that you've taken with becoming a watch-maker/repairer/restorer. I had neither the patience nor the aptitude, unfortunately. However, I love watching your videos -- it's simply fascinating, and you work on some beautiful watches! I love this seiko!
For watchmaking you just need patience and a bloody minded determination. It helps not to get angry and actually laugh at the frustration.
I believe anyone can do this if they have steady hands.
Is it possible to machine the parts that's no longer being sold?
@@aspopulvera9130 depends
@@aspopulvera9130 Anything that has been made by man, can be recreated... the question is, is it worth the time and effort to do it? And, can you find someone that wants to try? If your time is worth nothing, and you have the will... there's no reason not to try!
@@MyRetroWatches at my age i don't have the steadiest of hands, so i would try to use a mahl stick to help steady myself.
That underside lume is interesting. I wish there are more modern watches that does that too
Me too. There are companies that do that. It's tritium, though. So look for watches that use the little tritium tubes. If you like a divers watch, you will be happy. So its no mystery. Tritium is radioactive, so it is self-luminescent for 22 years if memory recalls (half life). I have one. That's why they can paint it on the 'dark side'.
When you shut the lights off to check the lume I LITERALLY gasped. So beautiful. 46:32
I so appreciate your transparency about little mishaps. It makes you so personable. Thank you for that. And for the entertainment. I'm not a watch enthusiast but I love watching makers and restorers. Your videos are superb. And, as an adult educator, I must say you are a natural trainer\explainer.
In this day and age it’s so refreshing to hear someone with such a positive attitude. Thank you for sharing your hobby with us.
I thoroughly enjoyed that, and especially that you share your mistakes, which also makes it informative, and tells us it is a natural part of servicing and repairing. Hands down! 🙌
Marshall, this may be my favorite video of yours. It had mystery, intrigue, drama, conflict, and a happy ending. The mistakes make it rich and endearing. I love how your mistakes were different from each other and how you utilized your resources to expand your skills when you got stuck. Next time I recommend your channel to someone, this is where I’ll tell them to start.
I'm a photographer, and straight away I can tell what you do and how you present it is quite pleasing to the eye, nice work, composition and lighting 😃
Sir this video is excellently edited, and your narration is some of the best I have ever heard in a video. Thank you your sharing this content.
Marshall is a former boxing match narrator. That's why he sounds perfect.
Marshall - most people don't know the skill it takes to do this type of watch repair - amazing. We can all probably take all the parts off the watch, but we could never put it back together. Thank you for your videos.
I fell in love with this watch from this video and I just found one on ebay. It was made the same year I was born in 1966. Super excited.
Two years late here, but I just wanted to say that Mike at My Retro Watches is an awesome guy.
this is by far the best looking vintage watch i ever saw on your channel ... just so nice... it is now on my bucket list to own one of these
It's absolutely mesmerizing to watch you disassemble a watch on hundreds of pieces and then just reassemble them like it's second nature. This helps me relax after the stressful days on clinic duty. I absolutely love your videos, watchmaking seems like a beautiful hobby.
My father bought a Seiko Sealion M55 back in 1970 while serving over seas. He wore it throughout his tour but not much after that. I recall seeing it sitting around the house growing up, maybe even playing with it once in a while.
Fast forward as I'm approaching 50, I began to collect mechanical watches and remembered that old gold Seiko. I asked him about, it and sure enough he still had it. The bracelet was destroyed and the watch itself was in pretty rough condition, but it did still work, sorta...
Found a local watchmaker that was semi-retired (Hi wife still runs their jewelry store) but willing to have a go at cleaning it up and refurbishing it for me. I can't wait to see it when he is finished! It may not be the most valuable watch in terms of monetary value in my collection, but it certainly will have the sentimental value.
Of all the watches I've watched you disassemble, repair, and service? This one by far is the one I like the look of most. That's a gorgeous watch.
I started the watch hobby only a year ago and now own a dozen Seiko watches. This one looks beautiful, they really don't make them like this anymore. Recently I've been binging through your content and it makes me sure I am able to some day service my own watches as well. I really appreciate how you are explaining the purpose of different parts while being entertaining, I am learning just while having fun watching the restoration progress. Maybe you could do something like watch repair tutorials in the future as well for us newbies.
The engineering behind these movements is mindblowing
Considering it was engineered with a pencil and paper, no CAD.
I'm so glad you reapplied the lume on this Seiko, it looks amazing again! So many people discount Seiko as 'boring' mass produced watches but they have been leaders in simple yet striking watch designs for decades... they are watches you can wear anywhere & they fit. These metallic-look dials are a personal favourite because you can wear them at work, going out or on the weekend... and that lume just makes that dial pop! 👌💚
I wonder why they are not continuing to do that. It's stunning.
I love watching Rainman Ray fixing cars, Louis Rossman fixing Apple computers, and at least three of you watch wizards.
You do not scream or shout, you respect your subject and your audience, and most of the time, your repairs turn out fantastic.
Probably, I would have been a happier person in a job like that instead of...never mind.
Thank you for your brilliant content. "You know it ain't easy..."
Rainman RAY YEAH!!!!
It’s never too late to leave a job you hate.
The close-ups of the jewels, the application of the oil and the installation of the shock spring is ASTOUNDING! Well done Marshall and thank you!
Just recently got interested in watch restoration in the last few weeks. Having not played MTG in almost three years I almost fell out of my chair when I heard your voice. Love the channel Marshall!
magic the gathering?
@@Empinada Marshall has a desk mat with MtG on it.... keep an eye out for it underneath his right hand from time to time 😉
... wait, what?! 🧐💖
@@jeno264 Marshall's apparently a big name in Magic the Gathering - he hosts a very well-known podcast. (Well known among the MtG crowd).
Having been a Toolmaker for over 1/2 a century, I will say with complete certainty that the measure of a true craftsman is not in the work he does, but in the way he fixes his screw ups. You have guys that are damn good men, but when something goes wrong, they get all upset and make matters worse. Accepting the mistake, learning how it was made, and coming up with a correction is the mark of a true expert.
What I enjoy besides getting to know how old watches work is your calming voice when I am at work, and that MtG mouse pad next to your work place.
That lume pops amazing. Was amazed in my childhood with the digital and calculator watches Seiko had one. I fixed and calibrated a anniversary clock given to me from my grandmother took it apart cleaned it and oiled it with sewing machine oil it worked. The thing with these was you could see the movement working and on a good working example only had to wind once a year. Did this when I was 15 now a 30 year 55 year old Diesel mechanic not even in the realm of this profession. My hands today crude and shaky used to working on something bigger than me. Watching you kinda weird its literally brain surgery dont get me wrong you are steady sure you do not have a coffee before doing this. Anyways just found you amazing work I will keep watching.
I appreciate the reply as I type this it is new years eve and am saying that I wish the best for you and your family in 2021 kudos buddy
This is actually one of your best videos yet. This is a really cool watch for such little money. I´m looking forward to learning watchmaking at A. Lange und Söhne in August this year. Until then I would love to see a lot of new restorations. Thanks for the great content, keep on going man. Have a good one Marshall
Wie ist es gelaufen mit Lange?
@@lukaslindemann1028 Das erste Lehrjahr ist jetzt schon fast rum. War die beste Entscheidung, die ich je getroffen habe dort meine Lehre anzufangen. Kann ich nur empfehlen.
30 Jewels? Wow. What an elegant dress watch. That dial is perfect for a blue or grey suit.
I've never been a watch wearer nor gave them much thought. I must admit I find these videos fascinating. I've developed a new found respect for watch makers. The intricacies that go in the producing such tiny perfectly engineered parts are mind blowing.
That is a lovely time piece, fantastic videos, always enjoyed the engineering of the high point of automatics during the 1960s. Only problem is I would really like to own on of these now, especially with its party trick of under dial illumination!
Perfect timing for bed time watching!
Cannot agree more!
Ikr ? It is perfect for bed time watching
Marshall - your ability to create a story around the watch - and its servicing is something to behold. excellent coverage.
The original lume was Tritium and didn’t need to charge. This “indirect lume” works for Tritium, but I’m surprised you made it work with modern lume.
Just goes to show how reflective and polished some of Seiko's dials/markers are that sunlight can efficiently get under the hands!
Exactly...Marc over at the Watch Repair Channel did one of these and had concerns light wouldn't reach the bottom of the hands sufficiently to produce enough lume. It's pretty good but it'll never be as bright as the original tritium.
ruclips.net/video/hxm9E1BnooA/видео.html
Radio active. Halve life is about 12.5 years, which makes the lume fade away to 1/4 of its original brightness in 25 years.
@@1959Berre It's why they stopped using it...hey it was worse in the 20s...dials and hands were painted with radium infúsed paint until all of the women who painted the dials and who licked the tips of their brushes to restore a sharp fine point all got horrific and disfiguring jaw cancers. The Radium Girls filed the first class action suit in history and set in motion a revolution in workplace safety leading to today's protections under OSHA.
Love your videos. RUclips suggested your channel to me a few weeks ago, perhaps because I follow a few other maker and restoration channels, and I was immediately hooked. Love your genuine joy at your hobby - your glee every time a balance starts spinning brings a smile to my face very time - but also I really appreciate your willingness to share your mistakes and learning experiences. I hope you continue to enjoy this work for years to come, and to share your wonderful journey with us
At 60+ it's been decades since I've worn wristwatches, but seeing this restored Seiko - especially with the dark luminescent backlighting - motivates me to wear stylish watches like this again.
It's easy to make mistakes when you don't know what you don't know. But, experience is always the best teacher. The lessons learned here will be taken with you throughout the rest of your career and carry over into other makes and models as well. These experiences, through frustrating at the time, are ultimately invaluable.
That was a fantastic project. I appreciate the fact that you talked about the mistakes. Well done. Keep up the good work.
Talking about losing the springs being a self inflicted wound. As I've always said "Nothing hurts more than a self inflicted wound."
Thank you for your entertaining videos. You are one of my favorite watch restoration channels, simply because you educate as you go along and are not afraid to show your mistakes. Provides an honest tone to your vids.
PS Thanks for showing the lum at the end--I was holding my breath!
This watch in time after a thousand years still running will show you the genius of the watchmakers over there in Japan.
I'm not sure what I enjoy most with your videos, the quality and professionalism of your work (skills) or the joy and excitement you express that's easy to share just watching/listening. Could be both.
Awsome restoration. Such an amazing way to lume the hands and indices. Love watching your restorations Marshall.
I know eh? But it's only amazing because it is tritium. Look it up if you like. In short, tritium is radioactive and so it is self-luminescent. That's why they can place it under the hand... Otherwise, how would the light get under there to charge it? Right?
A powerful magnet swept over your work station might reveal some hidden secrets.
This is roughly the 10-15th video on this channel I watched even though not being a watch guy and that alone speaks volumes about the content quality here. Crisp picture quality, perfect magnification to be able to follow every step and a very high quality narration in combination with a really nice voice. Thank you for taking us on these interesting journeys into the "almost microscopic" world of watchmaking/restoring.
I have to admit this seems to be the most beautiful piece of timekeeping I've seen on this channel, the "simple" yet sleek design immediately caught my attention and the illumination is just breathtakingly beautiful and just added to my desire. Again thank you for this fantastic content.
So at 27:49 those shock setting aren't supposed to be taken apart like that. The two arms at the top of the "Y" shape are supposed to stay in the setting. The proper way to remove the jewel is to push from the outside in on the bottom of the Y letting the top arms flex a little and then lift up the spring. This will let you access the cap jewel while keeping the spring retained in the setting by the top 2 arms of the Y. I made the same mistake my first time, and then I figured out the right way to do it. Hopefully my explanation helps! Keep up the great work! I love the the hidden lume on the hands. I've done a few elgin shockmasters that were like that. I still can't get over those wacky indexes!
This comment is very important! I didn’t realise for ages that was the correct way to open those either.
That’s a hell of a good looking watch, in the light or dark.
When I heard that snap sound in the press I thought .... that didn’t sound good. I’d like to see it in a brown/tan leather strap. Or maybe a yellow synthetic. That might be kind of cool.
Yeaaaaah. Maybe one of those times where it's worth researching the parts list at JulesBorel or the service manuals. (A bunch of 70s Lord Matics and King Seikos have that bezel too.)
I knew and tried to yell at home to pop the ring off (own a similar sieko and replaced crystal). But I couldn't yell loud enough to back in time.
I felt in love with this watch since I saw your video, especially for the lume thing! So I found a very beautiful one, very difficult to find this one, with a white dial but it's nice too. I would love to restore it like you did but let's be honest, I will make way more mistakes than you and I don't want to ruin it ;) So I brought it to a pretty famous watch maker in Manhattan NYC, so they can make an estimate to make a service on it. I asked to the guy to replace the lume and I shown him your video and he told me that was a trick!! That couldn't work with new modern lume… He said that you put UV light on it to make it works for 2mn, just for the shooting… I tried to explain him that I was not agree but he didn't want to listen!! I left it for the estimate anyway, if he does not want to replace the lume I'll do it myself and go back there to show him that it works. If someone knows a good watchmaker in NYC I would be happy to go there. Thanks for all your videos anyway, it's so nice to watch them. I'm so impress by your work!
I had to pause the video at the beginning and just look at that Seiko. I don't know what it is about it but it's absolutely breathtaking. 😍😍😍 Now I'll watch the rest.
I see that certain restorations take “time” 😁
and patience as well. Good content, your commentary is always entertaining and full of personality!
Hey Marshall, I’ve recently found your channel and find your work here amazing! I’ve enjoyed all the videos I’ve watched so far, but I have a real soft spot for vintage Seikos. What happened to this watch? Did you resell it?
So, the proper consistency for lime application is…thin snot.
Got it!
Also, the finished lume demo is hot! That’s some inspired stuff right there. Imagine being the person who thought that up, then everyone made their disappointed face, and then you SHOWED them!
Thank you for showing that people can mark mistakes. It helps me to start a new hobby. Thank you
I love that you’re able to laugh in the face of adversity with all the little hiccups that came about from this project. That human element of these videos you have created are very much appreciated. The watch looks absolutely amazing. Well done Sir.
I've watched a thousand watch videos and read a thousand articles, but that lume was the most groovy-cool thing I've seen in a while. Thanks for bringing it back to life.
This project looks like a million dollars, what a gorgeous design! Even after 60 years it's perfect!!!. Also what a movement! Very different from the Swiss flavor.
That concealed lighting was a huge gamble that paid off very well.
Wow, that was so very wonderful to watch! You made my day. I have never worked on a watch but to see how you just take everything in stride and enjoy what you are doing really brings joy. Thank you very much! The result is just amazing.
An absolutely beautiful piece, even before you restored it. A pleasure to watch you work as always.
One of the few channels where the automatic subtitles are flawless, bar some obscure lingo. But it's narrated clearly and understandable enough that it's never really a problem. The watches sure are beautiful, the camera work is great, but what never gets enough praise is that we're taken on a journey, passionately, but with an entry level knowledge in mind and no unnecessary details. It's almost soothing, and well worth up to an hour of my time.
100 dollars,what a deal! I never would have picked that color band and now that i see it finished its absolutly perfect. You got a great eye Marshal. Looks like a 600 dollar watch.Thankyou
fairly simply mechanism... *proceeds to disassembly a buttload of tiny screws, plates and springs*
i can repair a car with pretty much the most basic tools, Duct-tape and expletives, but THIS is on an entire new level... 99% of the time i need to repair a watch, i would polish my floor with my knees to find something. and still loose something.
still extremely satisfying to watch.
Damn that lume though! i got into watches through your videos, i've watched and listened to you for maaany years before through MTG coverage and the podcast. got myself a Seiko Pulsar PS2011X1 open heart. And now hunt vintage seiko's on japanese auction sites, this sea lion has ascended to the top of my wants list :D
Great video Marshall!!!
The best part is when Marshall puts the bacon grease in the barrel.
I find your content strangely relaxing and educational. Your effort is appreciated.
I have now fallen in love with this watch model and will eventually acquire one... That back lighting turned out WAY better than I was expecting.....
The way they have used the lume on this model is very nice. I like the hands being lumed on the backside and the dial reflecting the light.
That is probably the most gorgeous watch I've ever seen. Love the sleek, slim design.
Stands out well even for its era, which had so many great designs.
Hi Marshall. Your enthusiasm shines through all of your videos. Thanks for the sincere and humble entertainment.
This watch is magical, absolutely stunning. The lume is gorgeous. It needs an alligator band...
A tip: build yourself an acrylic work box with portholes, add elastic cuff material to the portholes and do your disassembly inside the box. That way you can still see & feel what you're doing, but if a spring or other part flies away, it's not gone forever.
Its so great to see your mistakes and have you explain what happened and why it was wrong, many would just edit those out, you are very good at explaining every part of the process, even the mistakes that can happen and how to avoid them based on your own experience
I took off my Timex when I retired and haven’t worn it since, but I like watching your vids. I had no idea how intricate watches are, or how compact. The tolerances are amazing! And at long last I know why they have jewels. Thank you!
I love the way Marshall explains everything in detail as if everyone is new to the channel, all us subscribers know that he puts the balance back in so it doesn't get damaged but a first time viewer wouldn't know why he does it.
Watching these restaurations feels therapeutic. Always enjoy looking at watches. Have a Jaeger le coultre reverso and a date just Rolex. Beautiful watches.
That watch is genius. I adore Japanese design. Thanks for bringing it back to life, man!
Your dedication to explaining each step and function each and every video is incredible and very much appreciated.
Marshall this is one of your best watch service videos, I’ve watched it three times. I especially liked the payoff at the end. The luminous paint of this Seiko watch face creates a wonderful effect.
Watching you work is a pleasure for the eyes. Your comments are rich with little intonations that are a pleasure for the ears.
I particularly appreciate your videos, it is a treat. Thank you for sharing your passion. You make passions arise. One day I may be able to match your work. Thank you
I like the way you step up to the pump and own your mistakes. It is what a person does when they want to be treated as a professional.
Leaving the mistakes in makes this video my favorite! For me, it makes this process more real, and more interesting.
Good enough to take it apart.
Skilled enough to put it back together.
Smart enough to hide the extra parts.
I don't actually wear watches, but as an engineer, I find the workings and manufacturing fascinating. I think this is my favorite of the watching you've done, from fashion point of view. Very clean and slick.
Great watch! I got a similar one for Christmas in the late 70’s, I believe. Love that you take your mishaps in stride, for the most part! And the lume on this one was the show stealer. That was brilliant.
I love the little metal frame that Seiko watches have around the date & day displays! I had one years ago, where the frame got detached & fell off, so I had to Superglue it back onto the dial.
This has to be one of your most interesting videos. I was crossing my fingers for you when the crystal press came out for the 2nd time. Mike at My Retro Watches is such a great font of info on the older seiko movements. He leaves all the little mistakes in his videos too!
I think you meant fount rather than font. Not sure if I’ve seen _My Retro Watches_ before, maybe he’ll pop up some day soon. Have a great day!
_That_ one was a challenge! So many pieces - and those sneaky little springs. Well done!
That's a great watch. It captures the optimistic vibe of the 60s.
What a great watch. That Lume at the end is beautiful. Really enjoyed seeing the finished product.
As I continue to watch your videos, your voice calmly explains the process, and I am amazed at how completely as ease you sound! Just a fantastic experience watching you service this neat lummed watch ! 👍🤗 Thanks again for allowing us to watch 😆😏 you do this 👍👍.
The Lyme coolness factor is worth $200 alone, the rest of the watch is just bonus. Great video.
I changed the fuel injectors on a car once and had to use a brass washer on the banjo bolt for the fuel rail. I dropped about 5 washer never to be seen again. I finally placed a towel under the line to catch the next one I dropped.
Nice. I had done up this watch in 1983 and I still have the watch.A very fine piece of machinery..I can par excellence. Thanks for your video.
This turned out so well I am amazed how nice it looks. That reverse lume is an incredible feature I've never seen before. Nice job.
The 8305/6 are one of my favorite movements along with the 5606 which is of a similar construction. I own that exact watch you just did but mine has a green tined dial. I wanted to yell at the screen "grab that day jumper spring before you lift that cover plate!"! Its hard to watch that spring get launched when you know its coming. I launched one on the first 8306 I ever serviced too. Luckily I have plenty of spares for all Seiko movements. Some of the Seiko's from the 60's use the bezel to capture the crystals like on that particular watch. I always remove them for cleaning the case anyway which will allow you to see in that particular case is that type. The 8306 is a quite different type of movement even if you are familiar with Seiko's. In the end the watch looks fantastic.
Agreed the 8603 is a very interesting movement . It’s interesting that they kept that jumper spring going on many models right up to the 6619 (I think). Often with passive jewels to up the count for that all important “jewel count” marketing era.