I've often considered this. It is almost certain that millions of civilizations could have already risen and fallen never actually overlapping another and given the vast ever increasing distances between them would never likely be contactable anyway. Isn't pondering this simply wonderful.
Right, they do exist and we do exist in synch but when we look at them and they look at us, we see and they see nothing in its place because the distance is so vast we only see a spacetime where we and they do not exist yet. Mind fucked.
Thanks John, I've been struggling for quite a while to decide what I want to do with my life, but your video offered me some much needed clarity. From here on out, I'm dedicating myself to becoming the Milky Way's immortal galactic dictator :)
My personal belief is that vast distances in both space and time, beyond comprehension, make it so any existing civilizations will never contact one another. I liked the comparison I saw once on a documentary about the universe. A scientist held up a basketball in New York City and said assume this is the sun to scale. The next closet star is in Hawaii. That is absolutely absurd to think about. They also said our Solar system compared to the Milky way galaxy is roughly the size of a compact disc compared to the earth. So if we really are limited to light speed as an absolute maximum, just the time it would take to reach a neighboring star is vast, let alone reach other regions of our own galaxy, which is just one of possibly trillions. Distance is such a big factor, that time works against it. My thought is any civilizations that are even able to reach this level just don't last long enough. Even if they lasted an absurdly long billion years, they could have been gone ten times over by now. I think there are probably civilizations all over the universe, but it is just nearly impossible to ever see any evidence, let alone make contact.
i believe there plenty out there. I personally just think that radio is "primitive" and that inteligent life may only use it for 1000years or less leaving no trace for us to find.
Steve if we could travel at the speed of light, time dilatation would be on our side, it will take us a little over 20days to reach proxima centauri or even less than that. but for prople on earth it would look like we travaled for 4years (dont remember the distance from us to proxima)
@@Big_Dip1 but the universe we can ever interact with, let alone just see, is finite, and will always be finite. It doesn't matter what's beyond our bubble, and whatever's beyond it might as well be another universe. So we better hope that we can find some life close by, or we're going to be pondering this forever.
Oh god. Jesus Christ almighty I’ve just realized there is an entire possibility that has been transmitted somehow through radio waves. Some bastard at the Arecibo array decided to have some fun on his last day. Fuck.
For perspective: if an exact copy of earth were orbiting Barnard’s star or Alpha Centauri, broadcasting at the power we currently do, our current technology would not be able to detect any radio signals from it.
Why can that not be right? Also why not even the briefest of explanations or justification for your rather brief statement. Do you have the slightest idea what you are talking about, or was this just some idiotic knee jerk reaction? It really is not a complicated matter to estimate how much a signal of a certain power will remain after traversing a certain distance. We also know how small a signal we can detect here on earth. Of course, with such a lengthy dissertation and thorough, painstaking thesis as yours. It is difficult to argue with your well thought out and logically reasoned assertion and conclusion.
rationalmartian I’m glad to see you correcting and debunking most of the fools in this comment section. It’s sad to see that a huge majority of people here agree with them because they can’t physically comprehend the size of the universe or they’re too egocentric.
@@rationalmartian Maybe because it's too obvious and he don't think anyone is that of a dumb to need a justification for it. It will be suffice to just demand an explanation and point your own argument instead of including your degrading verbose comment. There's also guy below calling others fool and egocentric but that's also what a fool and egocentric person would think, besides he is calling majority of people fool and egocentric so there's that. I too agree with Lloyd's remark and your comment except your demeaning knee jerk reaction.
It's actually sad we haven't been to Mars yet. As a kid in the 80's I remember watching the space shuttle launches and thinking by the year 2000 or shortly after we would have astronauts on Mars. Here we are at almost 2020 and really what have we achieved beyond the 1980's that REALLY matters? Smart Phones? Refrigerators with TV's in them? Twitter? We have the capability, we just don't manage our resources well. We live in an age of lazy consumerism, not an age of exploration, unfortunately. I almost feel hypocritical typing this on a smart phone, but hey, when in Rome. But seriously, you could make all this consumer technology crap disappear tomorrow and put all the money and resources to some real deep space missions and I would feel like it is a much better, more significant achievement for mankind. I wasn't born yet during the moon landing in 1969, but I can't imagine how proud people must have been. I would love to get to experience that feeling.
@@100percentSNAFU You're mostly right, but we also found out the way to Mars is way more dangerous than we thought. I was born in the late 80s but I thoroughly enjoyed science fiction from decades prior , not knowing what year they were made. It's quite sad to see what most people from Gen-Z to boomers happily accept as the epitome of technology and how almost nobody cares about the future. It seems like the furthest they can fathom is the next iPhone model, or when things that already exist (self driving cars, drones, etc.) become mainstream.
That quip, “you don’t creep through a lion’s den, wearing a suit made of steak. You tiptoe, and hope nothing notices.” Lmao I’m absorbing that, and a going to insert it into my casual conversations. Beautiful.
# 11. As civilizations evolve as well as their technology one may think that rather than explore outward, they decide to develop similuations and virtual reality turning their resources to exploring the mind rather than the universe. The idea of unlimited possibilities that come with the development of a simulation that you can have complete control over make the idea of space exploration, well... pretty dull and pointless.
It seems that it isn't technology that is limiting us but physics. Light speed is incredibly slow when it comes to stellar scales and even theoretical methods of getting past the light speed limit (or really, the causality speed limit), are either woefully unproven or unfortunately too impractical to use. However, even should we find a way to go at any fraction of the speed of light, the tiny particles that inhabit the near vacuum soup of space will shred any complex structures apart and by that I don't mean a fragile 21st century machine but rather I mean as complex as H2O. Speaking in the realm of physics and not of engineering, we seem to be bound to our own stellar system, never mind our own galaxy. So as far as inter galactic civilization goes, there may not be any amount of technology that could even lead to galaxy spanning endeavors, never mind civilizations. So I said "speaking in the realm of physics and not of engineering" for a reason. Engineering wise, could we build self replicating machines capable of expanding beyond the limitations of biological life? After all, if we only want to go fast because going slow would see us starve to death slowly, then why not send something that doesn't need to eat? Well machines technically do need to eat, its just not the same sort of "fuel" that we use and I use that term for a reason. We would need a fuel source that could outlast the trip that a machine would have to under go in order to travel from one star to another. Nuclear seems like an option but even that might not be enough for the incredibly vast distances we are talking about. So to me, the part of the Fermi Paradox that bothers me so much, is the expectation of inter galactic... anything. Life on millions of worlds? Easy. If life gets started, it will fill absolutely every niche that it can, and we are redefining what "it can" means every year. Complex life? If there is enough time, then it doesn't seem to be all that difficult. Lets be clear: simple life on early Earth didn't remain that way because it was being held back. It was incredibly successful at thriving and in pure mass it still dominates all life on Earth. Intelligent life? Considering the number of intelligent creatures on this planet, our constant reshuffling and redefinition of what "intelligence" means, and finally, the fact that we drove at least one intelligent sapient species to extinction shows that intelligence isn't really all that rare, just not that competitive. You either completely dominate or get demolished. So chalk that one up to luck that we ended up on top instead of our early kin.
I think that is most likely. For me there is a high chance that civilizations like ours exist all over the universe but it is difficult to move with the neccesary speed to colonize galaxies.
We could be completely surrounded by intelegent civilizations a very close 20k light years out and never know it. We would have had to start looking 20,000 years ago to see them, and if they are just looking now, it would be 20,000 from now before they see us. I don't think it's a paradox at all.
Everything outside of the solar system could just be an illusion at this point. Everything we see now in space could just a relic from the past and all of them are already gone
That's true, although it takes some assumptions for that explanation to account for everything, especially that all these civilizations became technological in roughly the same time frame as us, so we're just too far away to know about each other yet. If one of these civilizations evolved a mere million years earlier than us, however, it's range of possible contact would be a million light years and we should have the opportunity to detect that they are (or at least were) out there. Add to that however many other civilizations might also be out there that evolved way before us and there should be that many more opportunities to know someone's out there. The extinction concept would fit into this, however. Say one of these 'close' civilizations became technological a million years ago but then went extinct 500k years ago. The evidence of their existence would have come and gone past us a long time before we were advanced enough to detect it.
As a turkish Muslim, I am constantly enlightened and exposed to new horizons thanks to you sir, I respect your work and love to correlate my beliefs with the science you provide..
@Zeke Bean I'm not talking about the bible, which is an equally reprehensible concoction of genocidal, misogynistic and superstitious bronze age memes as the koran.
The most obvious reason is that the universe is humungous, galaxies are humongous, and it takes forever to get anywhere. That alone is probably the reason that we have no idea at the moment if there is anyone else. Even the closest star to our solar system would take 100 years to travel to. It is just unrealistic that some other aliens are looking for other life any better than we are and we aren't looking all that hard. Thank you for doing your part in eating those evil plants. We all need to pitch in and do our part to get revenge on them.
Proxima Centauri, the star closest to earth is still some 4.22 light years away. Do the math, at the speed of Voyager 1 it would take over 73,000 years to get there. The Fermi Paradox is not a paradox at all. Given the distances involved even communication at the speed of light is problematic. Fermi must have had an extra glass of wine for lunch the day he contempleted the "paradox."
Solar system is non union, all those stars and planets are getting screwed and taking it in the asteroid. They end up working for a little recognition, chump change and a few small comets that are thrown their way. Becoming a celestial body used to mean something, now everybody with a lit candle sitting in a tree is a celestial body. Deregulation and Made in China turned beautiful heavenly bodies into Fat ugly chicks with a flashlight in their mouth.
If we are the dominant intelligence in our galaxy, i'm sure we'll judge each case as we find them... Some we may want to leave alone, other, we may want to destroy, and then there will be times when we want them to be compatible with our genetics to improve our own genetics, if we aren't completely digital by that point.
I think we should help primitive species, if they are deemed worthy of enlightened education. Other than that, we should leave them alone unless they pose a threat to us, or another intelligent species.
John, great stuff! If you’re considering an extension or sequel to this, please add more risks from the list of “existential threats”. We are at risk from so many catastrophic devastations which could be common out there. #3 was my favourite! Yay Bracewell probes! Until you got to Sentinel probes, of course. Hoping that’s not in orbit. I propose we build some Bracewell probes of our own, to start searching the asteroid belts and Oort cloud for AI, on route to other stellar systems. Would a super-intelligent A.I. be wise enough to know that it might be inside a simulation, and so behave benevolently toward humanity to ensure it’s not shut down by the outside programmers, to protect its own existence?
There was actually a really interesting paper recently showing that transitioning to multicellular life could happen within a year with enough exposure to the right environment.
Nice? Like us? Hahaha, humans on Earth have zero regards for other life here. We destroy habitats, species extinction, use animals as food in horrible conditions, while pushong out any threats to supply garbage, pollution, mining, fighting, bombing, hateful and greedy Yes they will be nice, they will show up, see how we trashed the planet, realize they must not allow us to spread, they will either vaccinate the earth, so llife forms can continue, earth can heal, or but earth to make sure we can't do this to life on another planet So arrogant to believe intelligent life will be impressed by humans, That would require the aliens to be completely selfish creatures and have no regard for lower life, like humans, Certianly two selfish greedy hateful civilization can't exist together anyway.
@@asmodeusasteroth7137 We are technically still babies, where were we 200 years ago? Pretty primitive.. by the point we humans venture out and stumble upon another civilization we will have changed drastically from our primitive behaviours (which we still exert today, hence we can and still are very stupid and aggressive) and so would any aliens coming here.
Another factor suggesting aliens would be unlikely to pick up our broadcasts, is that (as physicists have pointed out) our signals generally decay into noise quickly when considered over cosmic timescales.
Yep if they are indeed intelligent they use us as a cautionary tale. Mahatma Gandhi, on being asked, “What do you think of Western civilization?,” was reported to have answered, “I think it would be a good idea”.
@Jeffrey Spinner I think your assessment of the situation is a bit arrogant. I think it is very unlikely that earth somehow became the only planet in the universe to develop a an species with basic a understanding of science. We have just started looking for exoplanets, let's gather more data before we declare ourselves the centre if the universe (again).
Just found your videos today... and have been bing watching for two hours so far! Great concise information and clear reasoning. So well made. The subjects and the unique scenarios are wonderfully thought provoking and realistic, and you are quite the speaker/narrator. You actually sound much like Steven Greer, or vice versa... (that's a good thing) and make listening a pleasure. My only complaint so far after all the vids is your use of "octopi" when in fact it's "octopuses" (it's greek not latin). new fan here! Thank you!!
The “Fermi paradox” doesn’t exist. It assumes that humans understand what they are seeing as they see it. About 10k years of history shows humans aren’t capable of this level of observation, or able to accurately judge his own abilities and level of understanding.
Jes Ewers this could be accurate only if human nature and human potential are mutually exclusive; we are capable when our greatest minds can derive possibilities through mathematical conjecture but there are those who spoil that with dogma, ideology, and even commercialism. Point is, individuals can, the masses cannot.
@Leftist Lyncher For most of humanity, religion did not destroy knowledge - it was the sole preserver of it. Often the priests were the only educated people in a society. And yet, you say to someone, "You've no idea what you're talking about."
In all things it is better to consider the simplest solution to anything. The most likely outcome is the first one that while life is common complex life is probably relatively rare and that intelligence is probably rarer still. And given that this galaxy is old enough to have sustained technological life but that everything in this galaxy is natural, wild, untouched in any way. This leads me to think that this galaxy has never held an advanced civilization. That humans are the only technological civilization in this galaxy and indeed all neighboring galaxies is the most logical answer. It is likely that one would have to go to a galaxy far far away to find anything comparable to human civilization.
Hey John-Michael, great video, and great voice talent! Have you ever read "Fiasco" and "His Master's Voice" by Stanislaw Lem? Both are great takes on the Fermi Paradox.
태선우TaeSunWoo more likely than you realize. In terms of space time, we are at the very early beginning of the universe, at a restively unstable point in time. The majority of the mass rich epoch of the universe is in the future, with some stars likely to burn for trillions of years. On that time scale, if the lifetime of a universe is a single day, we are in the first few seconds.
Lloyd I disagree. Technology changes constantly, and the more it advances, the faster it advances. There is probably only like a 10000 year window between Iron Age tools and CPU singularity, and 10,000 years is nothing. The chances that other intelligent life out there is in the same tiny "in between" stretch that we are in, is absurd
Like Isaac Arthur has said: the universe could contain lots of Roman Empire level civilizations out there, and we wouldn't know a thing since we can't analyze exoplanet atmospheres quite yet. I'm pissing myself waiting for the James Webb space telescope to be launched. It will be able to do spectral analysis and might detect an abundance of oxygen somewhere, likely meaning that photosynthesis is happening on a planet. Why not crowdfund important projects if money is an issue? =_=
The Supervisor photosynthesis requires a star to emit a certain range of light spectrum, and most stars emit a different one than ours... I think at least our type of plant, green and colorful, may be very rare as well ^^; it's a little sad when you think about it. At least we're here!
There may also simply be no paradox. The universe is vast. More so than the average person can possibly imagine. The Fermi paradox might have sounded plausible at one point but now it just sounds like a "Why Haven't I Won the Lottery Yet Paradox". Over the course of my life I've purchased probably 1000+ lottery tickets but I've never won. Some one usually wins every drawing but it's never me. A paradox!
I kind of like that you are so less known on youtube. It's like having a rare space game which few people know and that has so many cool features that it makes it so good.
We have to go find them. Ever see that sign "You must be this tall to ride"? Same goes with star-faring cultures. Until we get warp or whatever FTL drive, we really shouldn't expect visitations. They are out there, I have no doubt. As for an ominous read on the great silence, I think red-shift gives a clue. They are all running away from us!
Or maybe The Overlord simply introduces a variant of Twitter to up and coming civilizations in order to reduce their intelligence and eliminate them as a threat.
Number 13: They don't take seriously enough the threat of asteroids and comets, therefore facing a sudden end possibly just before they are capable of defending themselves against it. (Does it seem to anyone else like we are hearing about another NEO about every other week?)
@Dark Star If other civilisations get a bit of space infrastructure and build the sort of giant telescopes we would want to build, it is not possible for us to hide.
Hey John, I was wondering if you would be willing to do a full reading of one of your books to post here. I would love to hear it read as it was intended. Cheers from Australia
In this noisy electromagnetic universe I wonder if dark matter has properties which allow transmissions between two points. Then more likely dark matter (being immune to electromagnetic interference) is the medium advanced aliens would use to communicate. In such case Alpha Centauri could be home to the biggest intergalactic radio station in galaxy and we wouldn't know it If dark matter can exceed speed of light it would be interesting
That is actually a REALLY good possibility. Not just the sugarization but it would follow that advanced species would modify their foods which could easily lead to catastrophic repercussions. Super fungi, Super plagues, mass animal extinction unintended famine etc.
@@HeadCannonPrime Or it could be that the biological complexity of any intelligent species creates a fragility that makes them unable to compete with their parasites and pathogens. Look at what we're doing right now with the forced evolution of of the super pathogens you mention through the over-application of substances harmful to them. I like your way of thinking.
Funny thing is, humans do not need sugar at all. You can live without consuming any sugar, because that's one of the functions of the liver... to produce it on-demand, as needed.
Our planet may be the seed planet. In the game EVE online, there are like five distinct races that all trace their lineage back to Earth over tens of thousands of years.
When Humanity as a species discovers we're not alone and a very populated Galaxy all at once. And work still disciplines you for not coming in for valid reason.
God I hope we're not alone. I'm not even sure why I feel that way. In fact, the existence of aliens would likely only lead to more problems for us in the long run imo. Excuse me while I go all psycho-analyst; but I think that after the second world war there's an idea of "benevolent, highly advanced and enlightened aliens who've transcended conflict and might help us" that's sort of got into the "collective psyche" after we've seen our war like capabilities culminating in mexican standoff's with nuclear weapons. Add that to our apparent negative impact on our biosphere and I think a lot of folks feel like we're a lost cause and can't sort our own mess out - so then there's this hope that something better lies out there somewhere.
Remember, though, that the "standoff" with the Communist Bloc did NOT end with a nuclear war simply because the leaders involved were sane and endowed with the instinct for self preservation. Fear more the factor of an INSANE foreign power like Iran. As for the old "global warming" junk; that's largely a matter of natural processes with the human impact still minimal and grossly overstated.
"Apparent negative impact" A few generations ago it would have been "Apparent positive impact". The biggest negative impacts were asteroids crashing into our planet and volcanoes erupting in such numbers, places and types as to threaten all life. It has been life itself that created the conditions for its own survival. Now we have more ways to defend ourselves from the secondary effects of volcanic winters; ways available to us only because of technology. We are on the verge of taking life to those killer asteroids, turning them from threat to solution. It is an example of pure humanistic hubris to think we humans have a greater effect on climate, or any other physical characteristic of this planet, than killer asteroids or killer volcanoes. It also represents incredible geological historical ignorance. People who desire the continuation of such ignorance, or any ignorance, are dangerous. Meanwhile, don't take my word for any of these comments---read some books.
@@BigFrakkinOgre We bettter hope any advanced alien civilization out there is amiable, or at least not inclined to be bothered with us. If they're not, if they decide we're worth conquering or even exterminating, we're fucked. We'd be rolled over just like our more advanced gun-bearing societies rolled over the ones with bows and arrows or spears. And the tech divide between us and an advanced aliens could be even wider - they could throw things at us we may not even recognize as weapons until humans start dying. "Beam weapons and missiles with antimatter warheads? How primitive."
I personally agree with the hypothesis that the transition to a Eukaryote state occurred only once on Earth and so...the rest of the galaxy is basically populated with slime. So nicely its all potentially ours.
Actually we can pretty much tell that that transition occurred at least 7 different times independently, just here on earth, giving rise to the 7 kingdoms of eukaria. I may be wrong though.
You do a great job brother. Pay no attention to the nay sayers and complainers. Love your works both digital and written. Keep on truckin' man and, as always, Semper Fi.
I honestly love how you bring up things rarely talked about in speculative science fiction. I think there's one type of message a civilization would broadcast that would be really risky but would still be possible. It would have to be some kind of radio burst that included some basic science both to make sure the receiver has no doubt it comes from an intelligent civilization looking to be found, and to "map" all the chemical elements, then one thing leads to another and then a species' whole genome in hopes that they will be replicated in a distant world. It could be some sort of docile bioengineered "envoy", the sender's own species (very risky), or even some awful lethal thing like a plague.
So like, what if alien civilizations exist but we might never find them bc they evolved into a whole different path than ours and don't know radio or nuclear technology and based their entire life forms on different elements and technologies we might never hear of because they're simple inviable in our world? Or, what if they're out there and even here but we simply don't know because they're part of higher dimensions and we just can't interact with them because of that? Or what if they've just achieved a point where physical existence is no longer necessary and they just live in some sort of higher reality that doesn't require a material body?
Worlds most calming voice. I need a 10 hour video of you telling me, "it's going to be ok".
I don't think i could put up with someone lying to me for 10hrs straight...
I thought I was the only one! I put on event horizon vids when I'm trying to go to bed, it helps immensely.
if only he had a british accent :)
You could make his voice become more and more robotic and mechanical over the three hours. That would freak you out. Just an idea. You're welcome.
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The human window of existence isn't currently overlapping with alien windows of existence that are within reasonable radio range.
I've often considered this. It is almost certain that millions of civilizations could have already risen and fallen never actually overlapping another and given the vast ever increasing distances between them would never likely be contactable anyway. Isn't pondering this simply wonderful.
Or imagine they are looking at us but are 65 million light years away or more.
The most anti-climatic and boring resolution to Fermi's Paradox... which probably means it's true :D
Right, they do exist and we do exist in synch but when we look at them and they look at us, we see and they see nothing in its place because the distance is so vast we only see a spacetime where we and they do not exist yet. Mind fucked.
What if this little comment thread is actually the solution to the mystery of other life in the universe
Thanks John, I've been struggling for quite a while to decide what I want to do with my life, but your video offered me some much needed clarity. From here on out, I'm dedicating myself to becoming the Milky Way's immortal galactic dictator :)
Just join Scientology and tell them you’re the reincarnated Xenu.
Dick Burt They’ll ask him to pay 5 million dollars as proof
I'm dedicating myself to stopping all aspiring immortal galactic dictators! I am coming tyrant!
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If he's only just been reincarnated... he'll need some time to scam that amount from new followers.
My personal belief is that vast distances in both space and time, beyond comprehension, make it so any existing civilizations will never contact one another. I liked the comparison I saw once on a documentary about the universe. A scientist held up a basketball in New York City and said assume this is the sun to scale. The next closet star is in Hawaii. That is absolutely absurd to think about. They also said our Solar system compared to the Milky way galaxy is roughly the size of a compact disc compared to the earth. So if we really are limited to light speed as an absolute maximum, just the time it would take to reach a neighboring star is vast, let alone reach other regions of our own galaxy, which is just one of possibly trillions. Distance is such a big factor, that time works against it. My thought is any civilizations that are even able to reach this level just don't last long enough. Even if they lasted an absurdly long billion years, they could have been gone ten times over by now. I think there are probably civilizations all over the universe, but it is just nearly impossible to ever see any evidence, let alone make contact.
i believe there plenty out there. I personally just think that radio is "primitive" and that inteligent life may only use it for 1000years or less leaving no trace for us to find.
Steve if we could travel at the speed of light, time dilatation would be on our side, it will take us a little over 20days to reach proxima centauri or even less than that. but for prople
on earth it would look like we travaled for 4years (dont remember the distance from us to proxima)
Spot on Steve. I'm in your camp. Distance & time is the wall keeping immigration out both ways. Murica!
We could colonize the galaxy in only 100 million years.
I agree completely
Ferni paradox is what made the Mass Effect series so damn interesting for me. The prospect of the Reapers is genuinely terrifying.
Try the alystair rreynold revelation space books 😉
If you believe the universe is infinite, which some believe...then they do exist, many times over lol
@@Big_Dip1 but the universe we can ever interact with, let alone just see, is finite, and will always be finite. It doesn't matter what's beyond our bubble, and whatever's beyond it might as well be another universe.
So we better hope that we can find some life close by, or we're going to be pondering this forever.
@@realzachfluke1unless we find a mass relay 😅
The idea that the first detectable signal we might hear says, "shut UP! They'll hear you" haunts me.
What a way to oppress a race by convincing it there is a boogeyman out there so it fears searching.
You're really immature.
I love the idea that first contact would be our cosmic neighbours going “TURN IT DOWN”
Imagine, and it comes too late, and then we have Galactus at our front door just getting ready to snack up our whole planet
Lmao I love that creepypasta
I'm pretty sure aliens lock their doors when they fly by our planet.
I'm over here dying right now lol
Maybe they do. But we're mostly harmless.
@alpha lobster We can't stop killing each other. Imagine what we would actually do to aliens foolish enough interact with us.
And hit the gas, and they're like "I hope those earthlings don't come out and try to clean our windshield and con us out of our money".
Lol
Aliens studying us came across "2 girls, 1 cup" and they immediately packed up, said "No thank you", and left.
Oh god.
Jesus Christ almighty I’ve just realized there is an entire possibility that has been transmitted somehow through radio waves.
Some bastard at the Arecibo array decided to have some fun on his last day.
Fuck.
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amen
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What if they use feces as a food?
They can’t get past the dome and the ice wall around our planet. Duh.
LOL - Funniest post on this page! You know, some people actually BELIEVE that stuff! LOL
Umm... planet? You mean plane? Quit using spherespeak, it offends me.
@@pax7081 GET WOKEDED!
If the earth is flat, then noone would live on the southern hemisphere, or as you call it, "the outer area"
Um, if the Earth is flat there wouldn't be *hemispheres.*
For perspective: if an exact copy of earth were orbiting Barnard’s star or Alpha Centauri, broadcasting at the power we currently do, our current technology would not be able to detect any radio signals from it.
That can't be right.
Why can that not be right? Also why not even the briefest of explanations or justification for your rather brief statement.
Do you have the slightest idea what you are talking about, or was this just some idiotic knee jerk reaction?
It really is not a complicated matter to estimate how much a signal of a certain power will remain after traversing a certain distance. We also know how small a signal we can detect here on earth.
Of course, with such a lengthy dissertation and thorough, painstaking thesis as yours. It is difficult to argue with your well thought out and logically reasoned assertion and conclusion.
rationalmartian I’m glad to see you correcting and debunking most of the fools in this comment section. It’s sad to see that a huge majority of people here agree with them because they can’t physically comprehend the size of the universe or they’re too egocentric.
@@SockPuppetzTV Size of the universe is hard to comprehend mentally, let alone physically.
@@rationalmartian Maybe because it's too obvious and he don't think anyone is that of a dumb to need a justification for it. It will be suffice to just demand an explanation and point your own argument instead of including your degrading verbose comment. There's also guy below calling others fool and egocentric but that's also what a fool and egocentric person would think, besides he is calling majority of people fool and egocentric so there's that. I too agree with Lloyd's remark and your comment except your demeaning knee jerk reaction.
Absolutely love the channel keep up the awesome work!
I think we’re just the North Sentinel Island of the galaxy!
Then where are the Christians trying to convert us?
@@jordanred3273 Held at bay by the Indian government?
@@jordanred3273 They are rare.. and we shoot at them.. sounds familiar.
Where are the alien journalists tho
@@jordanred3273 Alien missionary work is perceived by us as anal probes and cattle mutilation.
I literally fall asleep listening to your videos. Not cause its borring, but because its both interesting and calming down.
I do that, too. Definitely not through boredom, it's because his voice is so chill, eh?
Two things I want to happen before I die:
Discover evidence for some form of life outside earth
Humans to walk on Mars
It's actually sad we haven't been to Mars yet. As a kid in the 80's I remember watching the space shuttle launches and thinking by the year 2000 or shortly after we would have astronauts on Mars. Here we are at almost 2020 and really what have we achieved beyond the 1980's that REALLY matters? Smart Phones? Refrigerators with TV's in them? Twitter? We have the capability, we just don't manage our resources well. We live in an age of lazy consumerism, not an age of exploration, unfortunately. I almost feel hypocritical typing this on a smart phone, but hey, when in Rome. But seriously, you could make all this consumer technology crap disappear tomorrow and put all the money and resources to some real deep space missions and I would feel like it is a much better, more significant achievement for mankind. I wasn't born yet during the moon landing in 1969, but I can't imagine how proud people must have been. I would love to get to experience that feeling.
@@100percentSNAFU You're mostly right, but we also found out the way to Mars is way more dangerous than we thought.
I was born in the late 80s but I thoroughly enjoyed science fiction from decades prior , not knowing what year they were made. It's quite sad to see what most people from Gen-Z to boomers happily accept as the epitome of technology and how almost nobody cares about the future. It seems like the furthest they can fathom is the next iPhone model, or when things that already exist (self driving cars, drones, etc.) become mainstream.
Fuck Mars fuck aliens
Another wonderful thing would be humans in the White House.
You might pass away, wont see nothing
I'm a proud veteran of the octopus wars
Is it true we cut a deal with our former foes, the emus, during this war?
The octopus wars pale in comparison to the dolphin uprising. So many dead...
In the sea the wind doesn't blow...
It sucks
"I've got octopus coming out my fuckin ears man."
It could be that inate universal intelligence has existed from the beginning of time, and our civilization just doesnt have a library card
That’s a pretty cool way of putting it
Aliens took one look at instagram and decided there was no intelligent life and left.
BAZZ C ok boomer
BAZZ C or watched cnn or msnbc lol
based
And red pilled
I know that is supposed to be a joke but it's too real. I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
I needed something to fall asleep too, 1am upload by jmg. Thanks buddy!
Yeah, he has a very soothing voice. I quite like it.
what, not going to watch demo flight 1?
@@thedamnyankee1 That's why I'm staying up too
bobrobert1123 I watched this at 8am. Went back to sleep.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who does this. I found an iOS app that lets me play videos in the background so these videos are perfect.
There’s so much out there, that all of these are probably true somewhere.
That quip, “you don’t creep through a lion’s den, wearing a suit made of steak. You tiptoe, and hope nothing notices.” Lmao
I’m absorbing that, and a going to insert it into my casual conversations.
Beautiful.
Love your videos on Fermi Paradox (and on everything else)
I would rather be vaporized than turned into a paperclip. Looking at you microsoft.
# 11. As civilizations evolve as well as their technology one may think that rather than explore outward, they decide to develop similuations and virtual reality turning their resources to exploring the mind rather than the universe. The idea of unlimited possibilities that come with the development of a simulation that you can have complete control over make the idea of space exploration, well... pretty dull and pointless.
We could be in many simulations right now
Were already in a simulation. And whoever created this, needs to be fired!
Good thesis, what's the point of spending millions of years on inter-generational space travel to visit a big rock with no atmosphere..
Love the mass effect reference
✌😂 always awesome video
OK microbes, you're going DOWN! (Takes big gulp of yogurt)
*snorts instant yeast*
Thank your for your work you do sir!
See you later Space Cowboy
I love this channel! Best cosmology site on RUclips,
Maybe a close second behind science and futurism with Isaac Arthur but you can be forgiven if you were unaware ;-)
You ummm,... don't know how the internet and websites work do you???....
Throughout this whole video, I was thinking, "Reapers." And then you mentioned it! Awesome!
I think a few of these are logically inconsistent if explored thoroughly.
But I was sufficiently entertained for 17 minutes.
alright, alright. We're here, and we've been watching you for the right time to introduce ourselves. Hi. I'm Troy McClure...
It could be that it is not possible to develop technology that facilitate the colonization of a large inter galactic civilization.
*facilitate
It may not be beyond us; it may be beyond physics.
It seems that it isn't technology that is limiting us but physics. Light speed is incredibly slow when it comes to stellar scales and even theoretical methods of getting past the light speed limit (or really, the causality speed limit), are either woefully unproven or unfortunately too impractical to use. However, even should we find a way to go at any fraction of the speed of light, the tiny particles that inhabit the near vacuum soup of space will shred any complex structures apart and by that I don't mean a fragile 21st century machine but rather I mean as complex as H2O. Speaking in the realm of physics and not of engineering, we seem to be bound to our own stellar system, never mind our own galaxy.
So as far as inter galactic civilization goes, there may not be any amount of technology that could even lead to galaxy spanning endeavors, never mind civilizations.
So I said "speaking in the realm of physics and not of engineering" for a reason. Engineering wise, could we build self replicating machines capable of expanding beyond the limitations of biological life? After all, if we only want to go fast because going slow would see us starve to death slowly, then why not send something that doesn't need to eat? Well machines technically do need to eat, its just not the same sort of "fuel" that we use and I use that term for a reason. We would need a fuel source that could outlast the trip that a machine would have to under go in order to travel from one star to another. Nuclear seems like an option but even that might not be enough for the incredibly vast distances we are talking about.
So to me, the part of the Fermi Paradox that bothers me so much, is the expectation of inter galactic... anything. Life on millions of worlds? Easy. If life gets started, it will fill absolutely every niche that it can, and we are redefining what "it can" means every year. Complex life? If there is enough time, then it doesn't seem to be all that difficult. Lets be clear: simple life on early Earth didn't remain that way because it was being held back. It was incredibly successful at thriving and in pure mass it still dominates all life on Earth. Intelligent life? Considering the number of intelligent creatures on this planet, our constant reshuffling and redefinition of what "intelligence" means, and finally, the fact that we drove at least one intelligent sapient species to extinction shows that intelligence isn't really all that rare, just not that competitive. You either completely dominate or get demolished. So chalk that one up to luck that we ended up on top instead of our early kin.
That is one of the great filters, and possibly the final filter. It may simply be impossible to travel interstellar distances by any means.
I think that is most likely. For me there is a high chance that civilizations like ours exist all over the universe but it is difficult to move with the neccesary speed to colonize galaxies.
Love your channels John, such good content!
When you think about it, the fact we are even here is mind blowing
"In recent years, geopolitical situations have backed away from such levels of tension."
Only to ratchet right back up again.
Flying through our solar System is like driving through the ghetto. You lock your doors and dont stop.
Klaatu knew that in 1951.
We could be completely surrounded by intelegent civilizations a very close 20k light years out and never know it. We would have had to start looking 20,000 years ago to see them, and if they are just looking now, it would be 20,000 from now before they see us. I don't think it's a paradox at all.
Exactly. That's the most obvious answer. I never saw a paradox.
Well they would probably look at your inability to spell and just leave.
assuming their civilization started at the same time as ours
Everything outside of the solar system could just be an illusion at this point. Everything we see now in space could just a relic from the past and all of them are already gone
That's true, although it takes some assumptions for that explanation to account for everything, especially that all these civilizations became technological in roughly the same time frame as us, so we're just too far away to know about each other yet. If one of these civilizations evolved a mere million years earlier than us, however, it's range of possible contact would be a million light years and we should have the opportunity to detect that they are (or at least were) out there. Add to that however many other civilizations might also be out there that evolved way before us and there should be that many more opportunities to know someone's out there.
The extinction concept would fit into this, however. Say one of these 'close' civilizations became technological a million years ago but then went extinct 500k years ago. The evidence of their existence would have come and gone past us a long time before we were advanced enough to detect it.
As a turkish Muslim, I am constantly enlightened and exposed to new horizons thanks to you sir, I respect your work and love to correlate my beliefs with the science you provide..
Please ignore the parts of the koran that tell you to burn us non-believers. We like to live too.
Why did Constantinople get the works?
@Zeke Bean I'm not talking about the bible, which is an equally reprehensible concoction of genocidal, misogynistic and superstitious bronze age memes as the koran.
The most obvious reason is that the universe is humungous, galaxies are humongous, and it takes forever to get anywhere. That alone is probably the reason that we have no idea at the moment if there is anyone else. Even the closest star to our solar system would take 100 years to travel to. It is just unrealistic that some other aliens are looking for other life any better than we are and we aren't looking all that hard.
Thank you for doing your part in eating those evil plants. We all need to pitch in and do our part to get revenge on them.
Proxima Centauri, the star closest to earth is still some 4.22 light years away. Do the math, at the speed of Voyager 1 it would take over 73,000 years to get there. The Fermi Paradox is not a paradox at all. Given the distances involved even communication at the speed of light is problematic. Fermi must have had an extra glass of wine for lunch the day he contempleted the "paradox."
Brud No 1 I agree. The sheer size of the universe and the amount of “space” in between everything is the true barrier
@@brudno1333 Not when you add the Von Neumann probe to the equation.
@@cosmonautbilly9570 So why is it easy?
This channel blows my mind every time
Plot twist: all the stars and planets outside our solar system are paid actors
Truman Show!! 🤯
Solar system is non union, all those stars and planets are getting screwed and taking it in the asteroid. They end up working for a little recognition, chump change and a few small comets that are thrown their way. Becoming a celestial body used to mean something, now everybody with a lit candle sitting in a tree is a celestial body. Deregulation and Made in China turned beautiful heavenly bodies into Fat ugly chicks with a flashlight in their mouth.
A masterpiece
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Alex Jones is that you?
I think it has to be rules about contacting primitive species. Or they are conceptually so far beyond us that conversation would be impossible.
If we are the dominant intelligence in our galaxy, i'm sure we'll judge each case as we find them... Some we may want to leave alone, other, we may want to destroy, and then there will be times when we want them to be compatible with our genetics to improve our own genetics, if we aren't completely digital by that point.
I think we should help primitive species, if they are deemed worthy of enlightened education.
Other than that, we should leave them alone unless they pose a threat to us, or another intelligent species.
That's the story.
When you think about it..a prime directive like that doesn't really make sense
John, great stuff!
If you’re considering an extension or sequel to this, please add more risks from the list of “existential threats”. We are at risk from so many catastrophic devastations which could be common out there.
#3 was my favourite! Yay Bracewell probes! Until you got to Sentinel probes, of course. Hoping that’s not in orbit.
I propose we build some Bracewell probes of our own, to start searching the asteroid belts and Oort cloud for AI, on route to other stellar systems.
Would a super-intelligent A.I. be wise enough to know that it might be inside a simulation, and so behave benevolently toward humanity to ensure it’s not shut down by the outside programmers, to protect its own existence?
Finally, he mentions Mass Effect XD
"It's a trap!" say the aliens that happen upon our radio signal.
Aliens are like Ninjas, in the immortal words of Ross Scott, “You can never confirm the absence of ninjas, only confirm their presence.”
There was actually a really interesting paper recently showing that transitioning to multicellular life could happen within a year with enough exposure to the right environment.
Man most of these are so depressing, I'm very confident that we are not alone though I just hope if we ever meet them they are nice
Nice?
Like us?
Hahaha, humans on Earth have zero regards for other life here. We destroy habitats, species extinction, use animals as food in horrible conditions, while pushong out any threats to supply
garbage, pollution, mining, fighting, bombing, hateful and greedy
Yes they will be nice, they will show up, see how we trashed the planet, realize they must not allow us to spread, they will either vaccinate the earth, so llife forms can continue, earth can heal, or but earth to make sure we can't do this to life on another planet
So arrogant to believe intelligent life will be impressed by humans,
That would require the aliens to be completely selfish creatures and have no regard for lower life, like humans,
Certianly two selfish greedy hateful civilization can't exist together anyway.
@@asmodeusasteroth7137 We are technically still babies, where were we 200 years ago? Pretty primitive.. by the point we humans venture out and stumble upon another civilization we will have changed drastically from our primitive behaviours (which we still exert today, hence we can and still are very stupid and aggressive) and so would any aliens coming here.
I hope you and your calming voice is standing next to me
Pulling a Ford Prefect....
"Don't Panic"
Thank you so very much for the channel
Another factor suggesting aliens would be unlikely to pick up our broadcasts, is that (as physicists have pointed out) our signals generally decay into noise quickly when considered over cosmic timescales.
I think the scariest transmission we could get is one telling us to stop transmitting and hide. Imagine how scary that would be man...
It’s January 2021 at 10:29pm and this post fucked me up.
Yep if they are indeed intelligent they use us as a cautionary tale.
Mahatma Gandhi, on being asked, “What do you think of Western civilization?,” was reported to have answered, “I think it would be a good idea”.
I’ve been looking to space during this quarantine more than ever!
It's the only way out of these gloomy days
Same but the thought that everything is so far away that we will probably never leave our solar system is truly sad and depressing
Great video. I hope we are not alone!
The Exoplanets Channel ME TOO!
The Exoplanets Channel it’s an astronomical impossibility.
It escapes my comprehension on how we could be. There's just too much, too vast for just 1 example of life to be possible.
@Jeffrey Spinner because it is arrogant to think we are hot shit
@Jeffrey Spinner I think your assessment of the situation is a bit arrogant. I think it is very unlikely that earth somehow became the only planet in the universe to develop a an species with basic a understanding of science. We have just started looking for exoplanets, let's gather more data before we declare ourselves the centre if the universe (again).
Your voice helps me sleep. Love the content. Take care with the voice.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the possibility of us living in a simulation and the programmer did not add other life into the program.
The aliens avoid us out of jealousy of how awesome our dank memes are
True words man
Matthew Lee
I think they avoid us because we say boring things. Like dank memes
@@MrShanester117 cmon man dank memes are funny you just need to be familier with internet culture
@@RandallWhiskey The old internet was better
Plants when Mr. Godier walks into the room:
"Yo I'm straight up not having a good time"
You should do a cover of Tay Zondays “Chocolate Rain” 🤷🏼♂️😂
I just discovered your channel and I’m binge watching these videos like crazy.
Just found your videos today... and have been bing watching for two hours so far! Great concise information and clear reasoning. So well made. The subjects and the unique scenarios are wonderfully thought provoking and realistic, and you are quite the speaker/narrator. You actually sound much like Steven Greer, or vice versa... (that's a good thing) and make listening a pleasure. My only complaint so far after all the vids is your use of "octopi" when in fact it's "octopuses" (it's greek not latin). new fan here! Thank you!!
The “Fermi paradox” doesn’t exist. It assumes that humans understand what they are seeing as they see it. About 10k years of history shows humans aren’t capable of this level of observation, or able to accurately judge his own abilities and level of understanding.
Jes Ewers this could be accurate only if human nature and human potential are mutually exclusive; we are capable when our greatest minds can derive possibilities through mathematical conjecture but there are those who spoil that with dogma, ideology, and even commercialism.
Point is, individuals can, the masses cannot.
@Leftist Lyncher For most of humanity, religion did not destroy knowledge - it was the sole preserver of it. Often the priests were the only educated people in a society. And yet, you say to someone, "You've no idea what you're talking about."
Based on our current level of understanding, Fermi's Paradox does exist.
Humans have only had modern science, electricity and fossil fuels for a few hundreds of those 10,000 years
In all things it is better to consider the simplest solution to anything. The most likely outcome is the first one that while life is common complex life is probably relatively rare and that intelligence is probably rarer still. And given that this galaxy is old enough to have sustained technological life but that everything in this galaxy is natural, wild, untouched in any way. This leads me to think that this galaxy has never held an advanced civilization. That humans are the only technological civilization in this galaxy and indeed all neighboring galaxies is the most logical answer. It is likely that one would have to go to a galaxy far far away to find anything comparable to human civilization.
Hey John-Michael, great video, and great voice talent!
Have you ever read "Fiasco" and "His Master's Voice" by Stanislaw Lem? Both are great takes on the Fermi Paradox.
Get well soon, your videos are simply amazing!
Mr. Godier, you have a marvelous sense of humor. Glad I watched until the end. XD
im a simple man, i see Fermi Paradox and I click
not simple, simpletonic lol
Maybe the universe is designed in such a way to keep us separated for all of our own good.
We are a world with amnesia.
And bunch of stupid like Trump
@@fjames208 Yes. Orange man bad.
Sir Mounted feels bad man
@@fjames208 trump is smart lmao
F James that sentence made no sense idiot. Explain how a millionaire and the man who became president is an idiot?
I love everytime you bring something seen in Mass Effect
100% my new favourite channel
What if all the other civilizations are at the same level of tech we are at the moment
태선우TaeSunWoo more likely than you realize. In terms of space time, we are at the very early beginning of the universe, at a restively unstable point in time. The majority of the mass rich epoch of the universe is in the future, with some stars likely to burn for trillions of years. On that time scale, if the lifetime of a universe is a single day, we are in the first few seconds.
Lloyd I disagree. Technology changes constantly, and the more it advances, the faster it advances. There is probably only like a 10000 year window between Iron Age tools and CPU singularity, and 10,000 years is nothing. The chances that other intelligent life out there is in the same tiny "in between" stretch that we are in, is absurd
Like Isaac Arthur has said: the universe could contain lots of Roman Empire level civilizations out there, and we wouldn't know a thing since we can't analyze exoplanet atmospheres quite yet. I'm pissing myself waiting for the James Webb space telescope to be launched. It will be able to do spectral analysis and might detect an abundance of oxygen somewhere, likely meaning that photosynthesis is happening on a planet. Why not crowdfund important projects if money is an issue? =_=
The Supervisor photosynthesis requires a star to emit a certain range of light spectrum, and most stars emit a different one than ours... I think at least our type of plant, green and colorful, may be very rare as well ^^; it's a little sad when you think about it. At least we're here!
@@barbarianjk2355 Yes, and you've just made a good case for some of us to leave "here"! And go "there".
It’s honestly scary to think that we could literally be alone in the universe
Yeah but the odds dont favor it.
@J A religion is the killer and segregator of mankind
I'd rather be alone in our universe than share it with anything else.
I don’t claim that religion is dumb; it makes for some spectacular fantasy.
@@psyxypher3881
Hence the reason you are on a high dosage of medications
There may also simply be no paradox. The universe is vast. More so than the average person can possibly imagine. The Fermi paradox might have sounded plausible at one point but now it just sounds like a "Why Haven't I Won the Lottery Yet Paradox". Over the course of my life I've purchased probably 1000+ lottery tickets but I've never won. Some one usually wins every drawing but it's never me. A paradox!
Not quite. We know that people do win the lottery because those are extremely visible.
Dude I could listen to you all day. My favorite topics.
I kind of like that you are so less known on youtube. It's like having a rare space game which few people know and that has so many cool features that it makes it so good.
We have to go find them.
Ever see that sign "You must be this tall to ride"?
Same goes with star-faring cultures.
Until we get warp or whatever FTL drive, we really shouldn't expect visitations.
They are out there, I have no doubt.
As for an ominous read on the great silence, I think red-shift gives a clue. They are all running away from us!
Number 11: Civilizations do not survive Twitter 😏
Or maybe The Overlord simply introduces a variant of Twitter to up and coming civilizations in order to reduce their intelligence and eliminate them as a threat.
Good point
Number 13: They don't take seriously enough the threat of asteroids and comets, therefore facing a sudden end possibly just before they are capable of defending themselves against it.
(Does it seem to anyone else like we are hearing about another NEO about every other week?)
Sorry honey, but intergalactic travel is now #CANCELLED 🍵 🐸
13: Socialism
I bet we're just the noisy neighbors constantly screaming into the universe
And when we find aliens, we will become the old man screaming "Get off my lawn!"
The trashed house with the front lawn covered in broken appliances.
Oh dear, what if someone out there wants to shut us up.
@Dark Star If other civilisations get a bit of space infrastructure and build the sort of giant telescopes we would want to build, it is not possible for us to hide.
And the very first thing we're screaming at aliens with is Hitler.
Absolutely awesomely presented!!! Fantastic voice presentation!! 👍👍
Hey John, I was wondering if you would be willing to do a full reading of one of your books to post here. I would love to hear it read as it was intended. Cheers from Australia
In this noisy electromagnetic universe I wonder if dark matter has properties which allow transmissions between two points.
Then more likely dark matter (being immune to electromagnetic interference) is the medium advanced aliens would use to communicate. In such case Alpha Centauri could be home to the biggest intergalactic radio station in galaxy and we wouldn't know it
If dark matter can exceed speed of light it would be interesting
Graham Hancock speculates that inter dimensional travel may be more achievable and realistic than interstellar travel.
Too far away..everything is en la...p m
11. Civilizations don’t survive the sugarization of the food supply.
That is actually a REALLY good possibility. Not just the sugarization but it would follow that advanced species would modify their foods which could easily lead to catastrophic repercussions. Super fungi, Super plagues, mass animal extinction unintended famine etc.
@@HeadCannonPrime Or it could be that the biological complexity of any intelligent species creates a fragility that makes them unable to compete with their parasites and pathogens. Look at what we're doing right now with the forced evolution of of the super pathogens you mention through the over-application of substances harmful to them. I like your way of thinking.
Andrew Rivera sugar created our brains
Funny thing is, humans do not need sugar at all. You can live without consuming any sugar, because that's one of the functions of the liver... to produce it on-demand, as needed.
@@tclem14 Highly caloric food created our brains, not sugar specifically. It all started by cooking meat.
"12 years till the end of our world"
Occasional Kotex 2019
Who?
@@dubuyajay9964 Alexxxxxaaandria Occasional Cortex. She won't last long. Although according to Mr Reagan channel... we will see more of them.
John, you are very, very good at this.
"You, as a member of an intelligent species, are one of the rarest phenomenon that can happen in the universe" - JMG
"There are more solutions to the Fermi Paradox than stars in the universe" - Nye DeGrasse Sagan
Our planet may be the seed planet. In the game EVE online, there are like five distinct races that all trace their lineage back to Earth over tens of thousands of years.
7:40 that would be one hell of a day!
When Humanity as a species discovers we're not alone and a very populated Galaxy all at once. And work still disciplines you for not coming in for valid reason.
i love your work...thanks for doing what you do!!!
You are very entertaining. Thanks! That last bit was so ridiculous!
God I hope we're not alone.
I'm not even sure why I feel that way. In fact, the existence of aliens would likely only lead to more problems for us in the long run imo. Excuse me while I go all psycho-analyst; but I think that after the second world war there's an idea of "benevolent, highly advanced and enlightened aliens who've transcended conflict and might help us" that's sort of got into the "collective psyche" after we've seen our war like capabilities culminating in mexican standoff's with nuclear weapons. Add that to our apparent negative impact on our biosphere and I think a lot of folks feel like we're a lost cause and can't sort our own mess out - so then there's this hope that something better lies out there somewhere.
I just figured people were hoping for amiable advanced aliens because they're too lazy to work at making their(and everyone else's) lives better
Remember, though, that the "standoff" with the Communist Bloc did NOT end with a nuclear war simply because the leaders involved were sane and endowed with the instinct for self preservation. Fear more the factor of an INSANE foreign power like Iran. As for the old "global warming" junk; that's largely a matter of natural processes with the human impact still minimal and grossly overstated.
"Apparent negative impact" A few generations ago it would have been "Apparent positive impact". The biggest negative impacts were asteroids crashing into our planet and volcanoes erupting in such numbers, places and types as to threaten all life. It has been life itself that created the conditions for its own survival. Now we have more ways to defend ourselves from the secondary effects of volcanic winters; ways available to us only because of technology. We are on the verge of taking life to those killer asteroids, turning them from threat to solution.
It is an example of pure humanistic hubris to think we humans have a greater effect on climate, or any other physical characteristic of this planet, than killer asteroids or killer volcanoes.
It also represents incredible geological historical ignorance. People who desire the continuation of such ignorance, or any ignorance, are dangerous.
Meanwhile, don't take my word for any of these comments---read some books.
what if we become the species that ends up helping the primative species across the galaxy
@@BigFrakkinOgre We bettter hope any advanced alien civilization out there is amiable, or at least not inclined to be bothered with us. If they're not, if they decide we're worth conquering or even exterminating, we're fucked. We'd be rolled over just like our more advanced gun-bearing societies rolled over the ones with bows and arrows or spears. And the tech divide between us and an advanced aliens could be even wider - they could throw things at us we may not even recognize as weapons until humans start dying. "Beam weapons and missiles with antimatter warheads? How primitive."
I personally agree with the hypothesis that the transition to a Eukaryote state occurred only once on Earth and so...the rest of the galaxy is basically populated with slime. So nicely its all potentially ours.
Actually we can pretty much tell that that transition occurred at least 7 different times independently, just here on earth, giving rise to the 7 kingdoms of eukaria. I may be wrong though.
Same
I think I got some alien slime on my face. It's blue and smells like Hot dogs
You forgot one...... Social Media. The funniest part of that is it's no joke.
You do a great job brother. Pay no attention to the nay sayers and complainers. Love your works both digital and written. Keep on truckin' man and, as always, Semper Fi.
Thanks brother. Semper Fi!
I honestly love how you bring up things rarely talked about in speculative science fiction.
I think there's one type of message a civilization would broadcast that would be really risky but would still be possible. It would have to be some kind of radio burst that included some basic science both to make sure the receiver has no doubt it comes from an intelligent civilization looking to be found, and to "map" all the chemical elements, then one thing leads to another and then a species' whole genome in hopes that they will be replicated in a distant world. It could be some sort of docile bioengineered "envoy", the sender's own species (very risky), or even some awful lethal thing like a plague.
Intelligent life in the galaxy? The critters in the wilderness areas on Earth.
"I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave."
If you’re walking on a dirt road, passing some ants, would you say:” Hey ants! I’m human?” To ants?
So like, what if alien civilizations exist but we might never find them bc they evolved into a whole different path than ours and don't know radio or nuclear technology and based their entire life forms on different elements and technologies we might never hear of because they're simple inviable in our world? Or, what if they're out there and even here but we simply don't know because they're part of higher dimensions and we just can't interact with them because of that? Or what if they've just achieved a point where physical existence is no longer necessary and they just live in some sort of higher reality that doesn't require a material body?
I love your content. Plus your voice is audio chocolate. Thank you.