ASK EDDIE - November 9, 2023
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- Опубликовано: 9 ноя 2023
- Film Noir Foundation prez Eddie Muller responds to film noir fan questions fielded by the Foundation's Director of Communications Anne Hockens. In this episode, we discuss, A WOMAN’S FACE, DECEPTION, CRY VENGEANCE, proto-noirs, the prevalence of the amnesia trope in film noir, and more. We wind with a discussion of film noir posters. Sorry folks, no cats this week.
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This week’s questions:
1. When you do Grand Lake intro and outro shoots, what kind of crew do you have or is it self-inflicted?
-Jay and Connie, Ann Arbor
2. I have heard you mention several times on your show that were plans to make a film version of Dashiell Hammett's book RED HARVEST. But you also added that this film was never made for various reasons. Does a screenplay of that film exist and can it be purchased?
-Loren, Chicago
3. Can you think of an actor/actress with a noir performance that surprised you given the films or TV you had seen them in before?
-Ryan from Rhode Island
4. It seems that many classic noir actors and actresses were able to parlay their fame into popular TV series in the 1950s and '60's. Do either of you have a favorite TV show in that regard?
-Joe, Redondo Beach CA
5. Before film noir became a thing in the 1940s, there were other films that had strong noir elements, either in style or content or both. What are some of the best and/or most influential proto-noirs?
-Kathleen from Chicago
6. I just recently saw A WOMAN'S FACE. I thought it was excellent and Ms. Crawford was superb in the role of Anna Holm. Eddie, would you consider it a film noir and if so, would you consider showing it on NOIR ALLEY?
-Richard, New York
7. I just watched DECEPTION (1946) for the first time. What an amazing film with the main performances by Bette Davis, Paul Henreid, but especially from Claude Rains. I wanted to know your thoughts on the film, but especially the ending. For me, it was a total letdown.
-Marty, Fond du Lac, WI
8. What are your favorite noir movies that use amnesia as a major plot device? Why did it become so popular?
-Ciao, Andy
9. After reading Sharon Knolle's article "Hard Luck Dogs: How Animals Reveal The Tender Heart of Noir" in Noir City issue 17. One of my favorite dog cameos is a dachshund that wanders into a shot and appears to be begging the camera operator for a snack in CRY VENGEANCE. I was wondering if you might have some insights or thoughts on this fun noir film. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
-James in Atlanta
10. Film noir movie posters are great to look at. All the ones I’ve come across seem to have pulp influences. What started that? Was it pulp paperbacks or magazines? We’re all noir movie posters of the time (40’s and 50’s) generally the same in this regard or were there any more subtle styles?
Eddie: I remember you mentioning that you purchased a bunch of old movie posters. Which turned out to be your favorite?
-Steve in Exeter New Hampshire 
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40:00 the Hal Hartley film is called Amateur (1994).
The Long Wait (1954), a Mickey Spillane story, is a fun amnesia plot in that it skips all existential dread stuff: ""Losing your memory makes your mind work sharper. Now the average person remembers things, but half the time he remembers wrong. A guy with amnesia has nothing to fog his mind. He's got nothing to remember. So he makes deductions, like a detective." Can't argue with that!
Thanks for posting, I really enjoy these.
Robert Cummings was a surprise noir actor.
Thanks for another great program. The answer to question number 10 was interesting as I got to see the two posters and find out about another book of Eddie's (The Art of Noir). He's right about Across the Bridge (1957 - Dir.: Ken Annakin). I saw the film a few years ago and it is a departure for the character types with which I associate Rod Steiger and is absolutely worth watching.
It's great that Eddie is friends with Dan Clowes. Without question one of the greatest cartoonists of the last 30 years. Check out his new book, Monica. It's easily the best graphic novel of the year.
Watching this has helped me have a truly wonderful weekend ! Was not able to watch live. THANKS to the good people at NoirCity for making it available here for viewing at a "more convenient time" ! Another outstanding job, Anne & Eddie ! And by the way, the Harry Morgan TV sitcom Eddie was discussing was indeed titled "Pete and Gladys". It ran on CBS from '60 to '62. It was a spinoff series of the very popular CBS 50s sitcom "December Bride", starring screen veteran Spring Byington. That program ran from '54 to '59. And what really intriguing questions this week ! Good job, everyone ! Two thumbs up ! 👍👍🤓
The office does make for a cool back drop.
Thank you, Anne, for taking the time during your day. The episode ended on a high note for the dogs!😃 ❤ you both.
You're welcome
Thank you. I wonder what Eddie thinks about Shakedown which I just saw for the first time. I'd never heard of it before, but it is a terrific noir with Howard Duff and Brian Donleavy and others. Best wishes.
Olive Films should be thanked for releasing Blu rays of rare examples of Alaska Noir (Cry Vengeance) and Hawaii Noir (Hell's Half Acre).
Two actors who made a surprising (neo)noir were Bill Cosby and Robert Culp. In 1972 they made criminally underrated Hickey & Boggs where they played Marlowe-ish PIs (Culp directed it as well). One thing about amnesia-noir: Wolfgang Petersen practically did a remake of Somewhere in the Night when he made Shattered in 1991 (Tom Berenger had the John Hodiak part).
Was it a continuation of the "I Spy" television series, or just the same 2 actors?
Hickey & Boggs had nothing to do with I Spy. It was written by Walter Hill. The reason why it wasn’t a huge hit was probably because it was very dark and noirish (I guess fans of I Spy were expecting something else). @@rtblues
41:00 Two o clock courage is a remake of Two in the Dark(1936)
The story i heard about Burr and Mason is that he auditioned for Paul Drake. William Hopper auditioned for Mason. The producers said to Ray if you lost some weight you could be Perry.
Mirage by Edward Dmytryk with Gregory Peck from 1965 is also an amnesia (neo) noir.
The pre-code version of The Maltese Falcon should be considered as Proto-Noir.
As I do when I take off my hat, you make a good point !
The Red Harvest script is one I would love to see one day. Alan Ladd would have been perfect to play The Continental Op.
The closest we've gotten to a film adaptation of Red Harvest is Yojimbo (1961) by Akira Kurosawa, A Fistful Of Dollars (1964) by Sergio Leone, and Last Man Standing (1996) by Walter Hill. Perhaps at this point, it might be better to leave it at those three, because I think Red Harvest would've been at its best in the 1940s or 1950s in the heyday of the Film Noir movement.
Actually there's two more films based on Red Harvest: Youth of the Beast (1963) by Seijun Suzuki and Miller's Crossing (1990) by the Coen Brothers.
@janolofalroth598 Definitely Miller's Crossing, it even pays homage to The Glass Key as well, as did Kurosawa's Yojimbo. Forgot that. Also, I think Sergio Corbucci's original Django (1966) should count as well, considering it was a loose adaptation of Yojimbo in itself. And to add to that, Takashi Miike's Sukiyaki Western Django (2007) should count as it combined Yojimbo. A Fistful Of Dollars, and Django as well. I've heard of Youth Of The Beast because of The Criterion Collection but I didn't know it was essentially another Red Harvest. I'll have to see that, thanks.
At this point, the influence of Red Harvest is clearly going far, but still, no one has made an official adaptation. In my opinion, I think the time for that has gone away, as it could have been perfect with say, Alan Ladd in the lead, directed by Robert Siodmak or Fritz Lang, with cinematography by John Alton. In my opinion, at least.
Timetable is available on Amazon Prime. I just added it but haven't watched it so I can't comment on the quality of the print they have.
I see you are showing "Larceny" with John Payne at the Grand Lake. I loved him in "The Boss." Ever seen it?
I always hated "Dragnet"! My generation in California didn't like it much either. I went to Catholic girls' high school with Lisa Webb, Jack's daughter, and I felt sorry for her because she had few friends. And she looked like her father, poor girl.
What about Spellbound as an amnesia noir?
I suggest William Talman.
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