FMA: Brotherhood - Understanding Roy Mustang's Flame Alchemy
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Bertold Hawkeye forced the transmutation onto Riza, he didn't just "pass" it on as I stated in the video, just wanted to clarify that. She never wanted the burden of the flame alchemy.
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Fun fact: the reason salamanders are related to fire so much is because they lived in dead trees, the same trees that were used for firewood. When they threw it in, the poor salamander will run out of the fire
Wow nice fact, I always figured they just kinda looked like dragons or something
Roy the last air bender
Combustion bender
Sparky sparky boom man?
@@rickyenigma-tan1049 yes XD
So that's why charmander is based off of salamanders. Huh. I always wondered why there was a cute little lizard on Roy's gloves
Hmmmmm interesting
When I was a kid I thought he was a dinosaur
Cute lil' lizard indeed
I love how scientific this show is. It goes through so much trouble for details most people won't look for - gotta respect that.
This is a good recapitulation of how the show describes flame alchemy. However, a high oxygen density and a spark are not enough to sustain a flame - - you still need some combustible material to fuel the explosions. The creators of the show seem to believe that oxygen is flammable, which isn't true. But since this is a fantasy world, one could propose a mechanism for flame alchemy that goes beyond chemical reactions and into the realm of nuclear reactions (where you somehow create hydrogen by decomposing nitrogen/oxygen) or something totally magical. EDIT: grammar and punctuation
Debraj Ghose interesting. I honestly had no idea, good to know, though.
I disagree with "oxygen not flammable". I don't remember many specifics of chemistry from high school or college, but I do remember learning that oxygen is flamable. I don't believe Roy's abilities are simply fueled by air (if we think realistically), but I know for sure that I can put out a candle out by screwing the lid back on to limit the oxygen.
You need both oxygen and flammable material (material that gets oxidized) to sustain a flame. In your experiment, when you screw the lid back on, the flame goes out because there isn't enough oxygen to react with the flammable material -- the experiment tells you that oxygen is necessary for a flame, but says nothing about it being flammable. High concentrations of oxygen can make things (fuel) catch fire at lower temperatures or make existing flames brighter and hotter, but will not create fire without a fuel. I suspect you are either not remembering correctly or were taught wrong (oxygen being flammable is a common misconception, even among the well educated), which is totally fine. If you are still confused, feel free to leave a question here and I'll try to provide a better explanation.
If its strictly one of those two options, then I must be remembering wrong.. It sounds like you're saying oxygen is a catalyst to every fire. Sounds weird to think of oxygen to fire as yeast to bread, but I'll take your word for it.
Hmm, I would not call it a catalyst because a catalyst is something that speeds up the reaction, but does not get consumed in the process. Here, oxygen does get consumed, so it is a reactant and not a catalyst. A 'fuel' (same as flammable material) is defined as the thing in the reaction that loses electrons. Oxygen steals electrons from a chemical to produce another chemical along with flames, and is called an 'oxidizer'.
Since you brought up bread, I can use that as an analogy for an extended explanation for interested readers. We all know that we need bread and peanut butter to make a peanut butter sandwich. This can be written as:
bread + peanut butter = sandwich
Both bread and peanut butter are getting consumed, but you would not call the bread the spread (even though they rhyme). The bread is your base, and the peanut butter is defined as the spread. A peanut butter sandwich is not possible if you don't have both the base and spread. You can then keep eating your peanut butter sandwich to get an energy boost to make more sandwiches -- this is a chain reaction. :)
Likewise, in a chemical reaction, you define the 'fuel' (analogous to bread) as the thing that loses electrons and the 'oxidizer' (analogous to peanut butter) as the one that steals those electrons. By combining these two distinct components you then get a chemical product accompanied by a release of energy in the form of flames (the peanut butter sandwich).
So, if oxygen (an oxidizer) is reacting with carbon (a fuel), you've got:
carbon (bread) + oxygen (peanut butter) -> carbon dioxide and flames (sandwich)
(you can have other oxidizers and fuels too, I am just using oxygen and carbon as one possible example)
Under ideal conditions where you have enough oxygen and carbon, the flames can cause the reaction to occur over and over, leading to a sustained flame (similar to how the sandwich can give you more energy to make new peanut butter sandwiches). So really, oxygen is to carbon dioxide and flames what peanut butter is to a sandwich. :D
The reason why he can’t use his alchemy on rainy days is because his gloves are wet
Nick and the humidity
No shit sherlock
But he can use a lighter then, cause the problem is just the spark, but the transmutation circle still work,
No ?
He's not useless. In a senario like that, he becomes a dangerous bomb. Changing the composition of the air and rain into hydrogen would cause a horrifying explosion capable of killing thousands. Himself included.
So wait... Mustangs power is only the very very simplified version of flame alchemies potential? Holy cow. Why did he not take his time to accurately cope the entire thing? He would have been lit! Get it? Lit. Cause... flames and stuff. No but seriously. He was op already but that would probably have made him the strongest. Sure, for the series it may be better that he was not too op. But from his logical perspective he should have taken it to protect his beloved nation.
If it was anymore powerful than it is then it would be impossible to control!
Takeo Himura he could have continued to study and practice it until he perfected it
It would've become amaterasu, by then, (just sharing my imagination) XD
Roy's Alchemy is explained RIDICULOUSLY in the anime.
They say by adjusting the concentration of the oxygen in the air, with a spark as ignition, Roy can make flame!
Take this: scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=954
Q: At what percent oxygen does air become spontaneously combustible (25%? 30 %?) Or does it ever without an ignition source?
A: ...Oxygen is also not flammable, but it is a high-energy gas that very readily oxidizes other materials. For something to burn, the reaction requires a fuel (the thing that burns) and an oxidizer like oxygen. Without the fuel, though, no combustion will take place no matter how high the concentration of oxygen is. Since air itself is not flammable, it is not a fuel and will not combust, spontaneously or otherwise.
How the hell Roy creates that enormous flame without something to burn?
@@ducphan2324 I'd assume since he always has a target the spark or energy is forced towards the it and then feeds on that. He basically never burns "nothing", it's always something or someone.
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That makes his power ten times more impressive if he had to manage oxygen, it also make the show seem much more scientific
Yes it is😉
Barring Hohenheim and the father, I think Roy was the strongest character in the entire series.
bradley made him his bitch,and i think scar would be able to beat him too,same goes with pride.
Anuj Agarwal no, I think Roy could beat them if he hadn’t just fought envy and went through all that crap. Wrath is only a good counter to him because of the ultimate eye, but if it was a fair fight, Roy could’ve easily deduced which eye was his good eye and burned it out of him. Pride also never fought Roy he just took advantage of him when he and wrath gang-ed up on him
@@Sh1tjefferys the fire still has to travel thru the air to pinpoint wrath's eye I think wrath could dodge it and wouldn't using fire make shadows making pride a harder opponent? And depends which scar I'm assuming scar when he uses both of his arms to create/destroy that would be a good fight but who knows
I mean, Roy hard counters pride if he's able to just replicate what Al does with the flashbang. Just make a bright flame that causes Pride's shadows disappear.
@@anujagarwal6885 If you look closely you will see that Bradley didn't attack until Roy moved away his eyes to take care of Hawkeye, which means Bradley was indeed afraid of Roy's flame and Roy lost because he wasn't prepared at that time. Even Pride confessed that Roy is the most dangerous alchemist to them and was relieved to know he was blind.
I just noticed but the lighter he has is a “Zippo Lighter” its an iconic american lighter popularized by WW2 american GI
It's not his lighter, It's belongs to Havoc, a solider in Roy's Unit.
I thought the way his alchemy worked was by separating the O2 into free radicals (alone atoms of oxygen) before igniting them back together. The flame created would be similar in intensity. Though the part about control would still apply since you can't let it trail off like methane or you could blast something you didn't want to.
Me: Well... he makes an explosion out of a sparkle
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It seems more likely that the circle would fuse the nitrogen and oxygen in the air to make nitrous-oxide.
Or he can decompose water vapour in oxygen to get hydrogen and oxygen
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What is the source for knowing that the sound isn't from Roy snapping his fingers but instead from the igniting reaction? I'm asking because during the battle with Lust, when Mustang uses Havoc's lighter instead of his own gloves, we hear the sound of the lighter's flint being turned to generate a spark but not the usual sound of "ignition", which seems odd to me when you consider the original explanation.
balistener try the wiki page for Roy Mustang
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If more people in the show had fire alchemy like Roy did, all of the main villains would be less scary, in comparison. Unless there's water around.
If the snapping sound isn’t his hands, do we hear that sound when he uses the lighter? I don’t recall that being the case.
I think it's the lighter snapping
THis makes me wonder if it's possible to create a real form of the flame alchemy, using materials we have access to. Of course, it would require the ability to create a concentrated narrow piece of flammable material other than oxygen, and a way to light it without hurting yourself. And NO, I don't mean flamethrowers.
Salamander represents fire......Charmander (Char+Salamander), in Fairy tail Natsu's nickname is Salamander.... it all fits
Oxygen by itself cannot sustain a flame, he would need some sort of fuel to create the desired results. Two of the runes on Mustang's flame array are air and earth, so I'm guessing that means he draws carbon from the earth to act as sort of a wick and then condenses the oxygen levels around that wick to sustain the flame until it hits the target that has been saturated with pure oxygen... and Boom!
But if he can control AIR, couldn't he just choke people to death - Darth Vader-style or perhaps lower the air density in their brain or something? Seems like being able to manipulate the air around everything has a lot more potential than just for explosions.
Roy probably could. If he's controlling the gases in the air then he could probably suffocate someone by depriving them of oxygen. But that'd still allow them time to fight back. Whereas setting them on fire would be incredibly painful and a much quicker, for lack of a better word, way to kill his opponent with minimal risk to himself. It's also shown, if I'm remembering correctly, that Roy doesn't need the spark from his glove to setting something on fire, just the transmutation circle, so he's still capable of fighting using other sources of ignition, like matches or a hippo lighter.
Yeah, Roy can do exactly that. It was stated somewhere (interview with the mangaka or something) that he typically lowered the oxygen density around women he wanted to „seduce“ (to make it look like he was a womanizer), so they would faint or feel fainty
Yes he can, I don't know why they didn't let him use the power, though it's probably because he's already extremely powerful and having him manipulate oxygen like that would make him almost impossible to beat.
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It's not oxygen that's being used, but hydrogen. It's more flamable, and forceful than oxygen when it goes of. Roy also displayed that he has the ability to pull its composition from water when he fought lust. It also explains why he's not too keen to use his alchemy when it rains. He essentially becomes a walking bomb. One little spark and thousands are dead, himself included.
Source: I almost blew myself up at 14 trying to make a small replica of the Hindenburg. I used hydrogen. Scary stuff.
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Quite dangerous even in the water there's also oxygen in the water too. And by his mastery he can also manipulate oxygen in the water and with hydrogen boom explosion
2:29 what episode was this?
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He could have been OP if he would just make the oxygen density zero so his opponent would die of suffocation BUT I guess that prolly wouldn't work on homunculi so...
What I don't understand is, if Roy can manipulate oxygen, sure it's useless against homunculus, but against anything that needs oxygen to live would stand no chance against him. And even if he was wet couldn't he still manipulate the oxygen sense the only thing that doesn't work is the flame mechanism?
my question is how he activates the circle without touching it
The human flamethrower
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There is saying in Finland.
Tuli on hyvä renki mutta huono isäntä.
In English it would be, fire is good servant but awful master.
It means that in control fire can be great tool but out of control it will destroy everything.
The triangles stand for every element symbol except water I think
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Yo that is some cool firebending
something that always bothered me. What like shape is Mustang's flame ? How does it travel. It's like this amorphous blob of fire that radiates outwards. It's not really a ball or a beam.
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I wonder how Berthold Hawkeye used it or how it looked at least.
It's implied that he didn't use it. He studied it extensively, to the point that he could learn nothing else about it. He said that a man dies when he stops learning, and that he died a long time ago. He knew how dangerous it was, that's why he refused to teach it to Roy when Roy told him he enlisted. According to Riza's flashback, Master Hawkeye only taught Roy the basics (air manipulation). Roy didn't learn Flame Alchemy until he decoded Riza's tattoo.
Damn I actually thought I could do this irl
Combustion Bending
Is mustang the only flame alchemy user in the series?
Pretty sure
The guy how created it(Roy's master)regrets that it exists, cuz its pure destructive power,much like the atomic bomb, but to a lesser degree, still in fma's universe, comparatively to everyone else, it might as well be.
In fmab; yes. Berthold Hawkeye (the guy who originally made flame alchemy) died ten years before the series starts and from what we know he never actually tried it; he just knew that it would be extremely powerful and destructive.
In the 2003 version there is an otger character who uses falme alchemy; Lyra but she doesn't use it in the same way as Roy.
@@maikamikaela3144 Lyra just condensates the air and then lets it expand which release energy of compression into decompression and does a explosion
I never understood why the alchemy stuff was tattooed on Riza's back. What kind of stupid, callous fucker does that? What purpose could it really serve?
While controlling Flame Alchemy is one thing, I highly doubt that recreating Flame Alchemy from scratch would be difficult at all. All you really need is a basic idea of how flames work. Hell, Scar uses a rudimentary version of Flame Alchemy while escaping from Father's lair, and he has pretty much no formal training in alchemy. The type of Flame Alchemy Roy uses is also very basic as well, as most people could probably draw it from memory, and intermediate alchemists could make it from scratch with enough theory crafting. I'm not sure about Berthold Hawkeye's form of Flame Alchemy, since we don't understand the full use or potential of Hawkeye's Flame Alchemy since it was destroyed as you said.
I have to disagree beacuse in the topic of science and math, creating something is always harder than proving it
I don't think it's that simple because you also gonna need the knowledge in your head in order to make the circle works. Math, science, theoretical science, imagination of the shape and stuff.
Just look at Edward even though he use alchemy without a circle he often shown to shape the walls and grounds using his "imagination" because he know the "elements" in them and back when he faces with Bucaneer he tried to break Bucaneer's automail but his transmutation didn't work. Later on he found out that Bucaneer automail was made of microfibre and realise why his transmutation didn't work he thought it was only made of metal.
Plus if using a circle is that simple then shouldn't there be more alchemist in the show?
@@BlossomPathOnStage15 agreed, not to mention the time you would have to spend learning accuracy, the control Roy has over his flames is absolutely terrifying.
What music is in this video
Does he get his vision back, I feel like he did
Stalin he does like in the last episode
He did he got offered a philosopher stone to regain his vision
He's hot in so many ways.
Wait, oxygen isn’t flammable. Is that a plot hole? Unless he uses hydrogen or methane in the air and I misheard. Sorry if I did.
I believe that the fuel is whichever poor human is on the receiving end.
On second thoughts I think you’re right about hydrogen. The alchemical symbols on the gloves can clearly split water into hydrogen and oxygen. There’s always a certain amount of water vapour in the air, with more gathered around living organisms. I propose that Mustang splits water vapour into thin streams of hydrogen which he ignited with the spark, and uses the hydrogen in the water vapour to ignite things. He then creates an influx of oxygen so whatever is burnt combusts explosively. This explains how he was able to use fire to melt the ice and how he is able to send thin jets of fire to ignite his targets.
Wierd cuz according to my knowledge, fire requires oxygen, and fuel where tf is the fuel
If Roy is worth analysis, why haven't you wrapped your mind around the man called King Bradley from FMA??? He is one of the most epic characters ever!
That’s so stupid. Why would she do that?
Fun little factoid for you that not many people understand, (not even the writers) is that oxygen itself is not flammable. Roy can not create flame by manipulating oxygen concentrations. Oxygen does not burn, it is instead an oxydizer. (wouldn't you know it) this means it only *supports* combustion. Oxygen needs to bond with another flammable element to catalyze flames. Roy would have to transmute carbon or like element into the air to create the flames not just oxygen itself. Furthermore it'd have to be a thick dusty mist of carbon particles (WITH oxygen, of course) to ignite into the explosions you see.
The 2 triangles facing down with the line on the lower corner in the fire alchemy symbols, are the symbols of earth in alchemy and the same symbol is used to represent the elements called carbo (coal, a combustible composed of carbon). The other 3 triangles in the symbols rapresents fire (the triangle in the center) and air (the 2 triangles facing up with the line in the corners). So the fire alchemy essentially manipulate oxygen, carbon and heat
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