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Football Manager Scouts Are Not Good
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- Опубликовано: 24 май 2021
- Identifying and signing potential wonderkids is my favorite part of Football Manager. It felt a little more hit or miss than usual on FM21, with the transfer signings I made on my new FM save sometimes falling by the wayside as soon as they arrived because, well, they’re not wonderkids. They were just not good enough. Then I filmed a video with Demand More and found that some players we knew had great potential were simply given the wrong star rating on their potential by the perfect scout we employed. This got me curious. Are scouts in Football Manager really not that good?
I came up with a test and off we went! A perfect scout all the way to a scout with 1’s at every important attribute, the competition to misidentify wonderkids was going to be fierce. The scout at Manchester City was going to give a different star rating than the one at Arsenal, but it was a rough look at how scouts and potential interacted on Football Manager in a way I had not thought to look before. The results may surprise you! Obviously, that’s why we’re both here, so go finish watching the latest HOT FM video.
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Feel like the dressing room fit is related to the personality of the player vs the squad, so you'd expect that to vary by team
Yeah and also the scout recommendation also takes into consideration wages and fee so will naturally be lower if your club has less money
@@isaaclodziak-green6326 tell that to all the Mbappes i scout when playing as Feyenoord
@@daemian550 if you put those players on a top team then their stats will get worse
Sancho might have had former teammates in the Man City squad which is natural since he's originating from their academy. Former teammates = friends = better chemistry
Like others have said already, it would have been better to use the same club all 3 times. You should also try to scout some no names, as wonderkids might already have a reputation, helping the bad scout with his judgment. The worst scout in the world will be able to tell you that Messi is fantastic, but can he tell you how high the potential of the 3. keeper of FK Kauno Zalgiris is?
I'm from Kaunas, seeing the name of my hometown team and my hometown in general was the last thing I expected once I've clicked on the video lol fair play
Should also probably scout with worse teams, the star scale gets compressed if your team is good so that 3* = prem and 2* is anywhere from L2 to championship
@@alexantony2544 hey man, I'm from Argentina, I love zalgiris kaunas, though I know them more because of basketball, the city looks lovely too
@@MrMattonico oh yeah?? that is so cool, I'm more of a basketball fan myself tbh and I live and die by the green&white! much love to you my guy, Argentinian basketball rocks!!
Think you should have had all 3 scouts in the same club and then compared their reports. Then the scouts had the same current players to judge the youngsters against.
This.
I did all three at different clubs in the same save so they could scout the same player in the same universe.
This prevented any variables between different universes in my mind, and if I scout the same player three different times from the same club, there is already a club knowledge of that player from the other scouts that go first
@@ZealandonYT You can do three scouts from the same team by loading the save again when you're doing the next scout. That way they start from scratch each time.
Also: Going through your Oriental Dragon vids atm, love it.
@@ZealandonYT create universe. Immediately save. Then you can now just reload this save and make the scouts
@@ZealandonYT I have loaded a save game with one team several times with different scouting attributes for the scout. My Scout had 20, 10 and 1 Attributes like in your video. I scouted the players Gavi(15), de Ligt (21) and Pogba (27). They all had the same reportcard and the only difference I found was that the time to scout them to full knowledge with the worst scout took more time. I don't really see the point to hire any high level scouts anymore, except for shorter scouting and I think this is something SI should be working on. I purposely did choose one really young guy, an almost developt talent and a guy that is in his prime
zealand vs understanding controlling variables when doing an experiment
You should look at their ability to find players though: Send 3 scouts from the same club (in three different saves) to scout one league, once complete see which one returns the best prospects based on what’s available in that league
I feel the locker room fit will vary team to team, regardless of the scout
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Scouts in FM are the reason why i have trust issues. 😅😂
That scout who keeps sending reports on Mbappe but you're in a second tier Serbian club
wow, no scout has ever recommended me Mbappe ever.
Radnički 1923 is my club! ❤
Scout: Look, you must sign Mbappe at all cost!
You: But I dOnT HavE tHe MOneY
@@Diamond-vy1lx And he won't join my second tier Serbian club. 🤣
Once I had 200k for transfers. Keep pushing me Real Madrid stars to buy it cause they would be superb... You dont say, man..
Surely the value of a good scout is also their ability to FIND the wonderkids. The better scouts (assuming identical knowledge) will find players other scouts won't, and that's precisely what you are looking for to get ahead of the big clubs. Also, star ratings are relative to the league the club is in and the players in your squad. If a scout of a League 1 club scouted players in the Premier League, they'd all have 5* current and potential ability. Best thing to do would be to use the same 3 scouts you created but have them at the same club, make sure that their knowledge is the same (say just England) and then send them all to the same country that doesn't speak the same language (say Brazil) and then simulate the game and see 1. How quickly they gain knowledge of the country, 2. How many players they find, 3. Where they've scouted the same player, see how variable the scouting reports are. Nice video idea though!
The star rating is relative to your squad, yes, but not the league. You can test this pretty easily. Get promoted and you'll see your star ratings don't change until you sign better players, then suddenly your 5* striker is 3*
So the millions of pounds I've been spending on compensation for better scouts had been pointless that's good to know now
Yeah man, don't pay for their useless skills, but pay for their sweet knowledge
In my opinion, the test was done wrong. As yourself said, the reputations of the clubs are different so that as well affected the outcome. You should do a test with 3 scouts from the same team and also use regens because of the random side of things
I'd love to see this experiment at a lower league level, I have a feeling that that's where you can see the difference between the scouts more.
Absolutely. I think you're going to see waaaay more variability at the 65 pa/ca range with better scouts.
MOMBOT
168 potential can still be 5* if the attributes are better filled out, so Sancho at 175 wudnt necessarily have a better potential
Surely there were way too many uncontrolled variables for this to be the actual conclusion
“Uniquely unlikeable” Yes! You’ve won me back after that Paul Gascoigne debacle t’other day!
I think the rating can also be affected by the price to pay for the player.
I'm not sure, I remember scouting players that were way too expensive and my scouts said they were great players
@@alexandre526 That's usually the scout's own reports. I was referring to the assignments that where I ask a scout to scout a specific player.
Yes the scout number rating takes into account cost. A 5 star potential player who costs 1mil will have a higher scout rating then another 5 star potential player who costs 30 mil.
so thats why messi had 5 stars at my bolton save
@@Draven.G did you ask your scout to scout messi specifically? I've gotten a lot of high scouting reports because I asked my scouts to raid Colo Colo for their 15 year old for less than a million. And then there's the scout reports where I don't ask them to scout players but they throw me "sign at whatever the cost" for mbappe in my first season a bath city.
It's nice when you scroll down to the comment section and see everyone have the same thought you did while watching the video. Unless they're all scouts on the same team I don't know how relevant this is unfortunately.
mombot poggers
Another example how broken scouting is in FM and not working as intended and explained by SI. Really looking forward to the scouting speed (please check the individual and general scouting assignments). I found out in my test that 1 scout can have 3 players individually scouted at the same time (scouting priorities) and general assignments (nation) does not affects this at all. So no point of leaving a scout unassigned to check for individual players as it will not be faster.
Edit: but others mentioned in SI forums that their scout had 5 players scouted simultaneously in the priorities so maybe there is some attribute dependence I missed in my test.
The good thing about this is: FM21 thinks i might have a career option in scouting football players.
Glad to see someone else in the intro 😂
Zea the problem with this concept is that you put one scout into a dogshit team like Arsenal and one into Manchester City and United. Of course there is gonna be differences because they compare the star ratings to the teams themselves(as you always said). So you should really test it by doing 3 different saves at the same team with different scouts to make a more accurate comparison.
You are right but on 3 different saves, these players will have different potential ability. He can just make 1 save and change the scout report staff to see the different ratings.
@@ozancanan9879 Actually no. Every player that is not a regen has a certain potential ability at start. That means that Sancho will always have 175 potential ability and over time this could lower. But zea's scouts came back in around a week as he said. In that little amount of time Sancho won't lose any sort of potential (except maybe if he is hit by a train or something). Try launching 10 saves and check his potential with ingame editor or some sort of 3rd party tool like fm genie, it's always the same.
@@andraskurucz839 That's not entirely accurate, most players (I believe) under the age of 21 have variable potentials within a range. For instance, some of these players have a chance to start a save between 150-180PA. This value is assigned after you load the save up the first time. FM does this to create variety between different saves and also to keep players from potentially being upset by the ratings assigned.
If you were to look into the FM editor(Not the in game editor) the potential abilities of these players will say something like "-8.5" which is how FM assigns a random potential ability.
@@andraskurucz839 Every player that is in the game does not have a set potential. Most players have a set potential but there are players that have potential ranges and every save it is a random value in that range. Exmaples: camavinga, Reyna, youssoufa moukoko. You can use the database editor to look at those potentials. Also PA does not change during a save, this is not Fifa.
@@danlehman4646 You are actually right on that one, my bad. But he could really just choose some youngsters whose ratings are set in stone such as Sancho.
Does player's preferred position relative to the primary tactic make any difference in overall rating from the scout? i.e. doesn't currently play the position that our primary tactic lists (let's say advanced forward vs. poacher), so therefore overall rating is lower?
It would be interesting to dive a bit deeper into this, there's a lot of variables at play that if taken into account might reveal some more results. Teams with different reputations, scouts with differing knowledge of the area they player they are scouting in, scouts adaptability and So on.
You should have just had 3 different scouts from the same team do this. Load the game if you want a blank scout report or something.
Rating and locker room fit is completely relative to the team.
1. Anyone can identify a diamond, not many can identify a diamond in the rough
2. Nuance, a top scout might be able to project exactly what would be his best role star rating if he reached full potential, even if two players had the same PA that can be different
3. Bad scouts will probably think a youngster might have more upside than he does. Especially if the youngster is looking promising for his age, yet lacking in PA. And vice versa.
4. How does a scout identify talent. Say they're tasked with finding the best talent from a league, what would the results look like
What if you scouted players that the 3 teams had 0% knowledge on? maybe the bad scout gets assistance from the clubs prior knowledge and that impacts his report. Like all 5 players were somewhat known to those clubs beforehand. It would be interesting to see them scout the same 5 obscure south american players and see what they come back with.
It would be interesting with regens because they have more personalities which the worse scouts might not be able to pick??? They are also rating them relative to their squads, it would be better to test this on regens with the same team.
MOMBOT, the wheels of this whole operation
Just a thought - the other scouts in the team, does it affect the report and knowledge?
So the history of scouting and knowledge of the player before the scout report happened (pre existing data from before the game started)
Yeah would be a good idea to test this on the same 5 regens.
You should have used 3 scouts from the same team.. that way you could compare the stars better. Gread video btw! It confirmed what I was already suspecting
I do miss this style of video these days. I rewatch them all the time. Probs have a hunred views from me alone lol stay safe. 👊
Intro was gold lol
Interesting results, and I've noticed many times in games when I've scouted the same player with the same scout a few weeks apart, you get a different report, which doesn't really make sense. I only really use scouts now to give me an idea of what to bid and what wages to offer. For judging players, it's better to use your own judgement
The way I understood it with no solid evidence to back this up is that the good scout would see Sancho's PA is 175, it would then randomly do a +/- of (say) 5% and then make a judgement on the basis of that. Meanwhile the poor scout would see the 175 and then randomly do a +/- of (say) 20% and then make a judgement on the basis of that. Hence depending on the randomness depending on the ability of the scout then sometimes the poor scout gets it "more" right than the consistent good scout but is also as likely to get it "more" wrong".
The way you would test this is to start a save where the club has 3 Good scouts, 3 average scouts and 3 poor scouts and then run the experiment 9 times with a different scout each time. And then compare the differences in reports from each level of scouting skill. I suspect the poor scouts will be less in agreement with each other than what the good scouts will be.
The further away a players CA is from their PA, the less accurate the scout reports are. Even if the player is only 17 and has a PA of 150, if their CA is less than 100 the scout will usually say 'unlikely to improve the quality of your squad' or something similar. We only consider this to be a mistake because we can look up every players actual PA in the game. The AI controlling the Scout only gets a glimmer of this called the Perceived Potential Ability, there are very few scouts in the game that can get close to the real number.
Also it used to be the case that if you didn't pay for the right Scouting Package then your scout ratings would also be adversely affected.
Just a thought, even though a player has a PA doesn't mean they will get to that level. Maybe the better scouts factors in their opinion on what max level the player is likely to get to, which could be more accurate.
I am very positive that the only real difference of better rated scouts is how fast they can get you a full report, and that they factor in the probability how likely the players are to reach their full potential. So if the potential star rating is high it is very likely that the hidden attributes like professional and so on are very high too.
The star ratings how everyone knows by now is they don´t give you the full picture of how high it will be, so if there is a 5 star rated guy it can be still a 150pa max guy but one that is very likely to get there.
The same scout can give you a 4 star potential report for a guy that is 170pa max but don´t have very good hidden attributes to easily reach that.
I think the major takeaway here is what it indicates is actually the most important factor when hiring a scout and that is Country knowledge. Although not the most rigorous scientific look at scouts, the evidence would indicate it's worth getting scouts with different built in knowledge basis who perhaps have average stats rather than having four 20/20 Spaniards and three 20/20 Argentinian scouts who you have to send to new places to develop in country knowledge. Pick up the Central American Scout with 9/12 stats to add that knowledge in rather than Jose Jose who knows Spain and Portugal like 10 of your other scouts already do
PA and CA also don't always fully correlate to actual ability. Having a lot of stats doesn't automatically means they have the best distribution. A guy with 150 can be a better player(even in attributes than a 170 guy just because they have better distribution of their attributes. But in general scouting tries to add in probability of a guy reaching his max level and the price it costs to acquire him and what is already there into the recomendation number. I have no winger on my team and almost all winger get rated higher than better players in other positions.
feel like this is something to again check with SI... would they have anything to uncover on this topic as somehow you COULD say the game is just operating wrong on this subject.
Reputation is big with scouts if you have them scouting in support of a transfer. Declare interest in a player then have your most reputable scout watch their games and you'll likely see a boost in your ability to sign that stubborn player
Would scouts have different levels of accuracy based on their region knowledge? So would a scout with 100% knowledge of Brazil be able to more accurately judge a player from Brazil than someone with no knowledge of Brazil?
The way I have always interpreted regional knowledge was the ability to find players and how quickly a full report is compiled. The actual substance of the report shouldn't change, but it is FM so who knows.
One other thing I would like to see aside from every scout is from the same club, is to see the player at the club when the scouting is finished to see if the pros and cons were right
Shouldn't the 3 scouts be on the same team? The stars will change according to the club
Might be able to judge a player but can the 1 rated scout find me the next Messi? Would be fun to see if you send the tree scouts to the same regen to see witch targeted they found after 1 week, 1 month, and 1 year.
Maybe part of the variation in the different player reports has something to do with their ability to reach that potential; so even though players had the same PA, one might not ever reach it, and they get rated lower because of it. And the top scout puts that information together better?
I noticed that a scout with higher attributes can uncover the player's attribute faster than a scout that have lower attributes. Not sure if my observation is valid though
Fantastic vid...always a great watch
I wonder if a bad scout is more likely to miss wildly on a players who is truly bad. Like I bet in FM, in general, scouts are good at identifying talent, but the variance comes a lot from thinking bad players are good. Like the worse the scout, the more likely you are to get an “Adolfo” situation, but it doesn’t just happen to bad scouts, it’s just more likely.
Fist of all, a great (although with disturbing results) video.
I'd be really interested to see some kind of a test (can't really think of a way to make it consistent tho) of how good the different levels of scouts are at suggesting players, instead of scouting a predefined list. Maybe assign several scouts at the same region, for the same amount of time, with the same requirements, and then compare the results (number of suggestions, suggestions over a certan threshold, comparison of these suggestions with their actual PA and CA, etc).
you could do one of these with like 50 players, and make a whole excel with all of it, and maybe also see if different scouts from the same team looking at the same player improves the overall knowledge, and maybe including looking at players from countries that one of the teams has no knowledge on the country.
you should test this on mid and lower league teams. it will be interesting :)
Nice vid Z, intriguing stuff
Wholesome intro
Maybe it makes more of a difference if you get the scout to do the in depth scouting where they watch matches and whatever? I know most people (myself definitely) only use the quick option
that is ridiculous that the actual ratings don't matter for the scouts... you'd feel like that is something to take to Sports Interactive to get them to look at, because otherwise what is the point in having stats for your recruitment staff?
great video
I wonder if at a younger age there is more variability in terms of exactly how close to a player potential ability they can actually reach. Obviously as a player gets older and other factors ( training, injuries, play time etc...) come in this increases/ decreases that top ability that the scout thinks the player can reach out of their potential ability. This is then framed within the general ability of the team scouting them.
Potential ability should be dynamic. Like if you set a good training regiment and player has a great season his overall potential should go up.
This issue has been around for more than a decade. I remember when Vardy and Lewandowski weren't good enough for english 3rd tier only to rocket to world class a year later.
Quality vid good luck with graduation man
I ever have the feeling that the grade given to a player in the report is based in the possibility of a transfer/value/salary relative to your team. I always set my list of players based on the PA of the players and never by the score given in the report, because my team could improve and the score could be higher or lower from one year to another. Yet, the interest in a transfer to my team affects a lot the score, so a player that recently sign a new contract will have a lower score in the report. Resuming: the only thing I consider in a report is the CA, the PA and the hidden atributes avaliation.
A good scout also brings you a better evaluation on the value of a player and the salary that he might ask for
As far as I'm aware the ability of the scout has more to do with the uncovering of the players attributes than it does the report card. If you scout a completely unknown player with a bad scout you get a scale, ie. passing 10-16 where as a better scout will give you a number ie. passing 14
Can you please make a video on player descriptions? Like what makes a cultured, explosive, commanding, enthusiastic etc. I can never understand what they mean.
I feel as though the difference in star rating at the same club could be position Sancho has to compete with sterling and marhez where as demir may have been compared to gabriel jesus meaning that the stars might not be in a vacuum of potential but relative to the team by position. So being a 5 star winger on a team with a great attack but poor defense will be harder than a 5 star CB on the same team.
My guess is the main difference in scouting is how well they do their assignment (i.e. find me first team players in eastern europe) - when scouting a single player, it's probably not that important who the individual scout is, bc of team and league knowledge, etc
Yes the younger they get the more abstract the potential. The potential ability stars are not completely linked to PA if at all. Sorry forgot the link where that info is from SI.
the recommendation might not only respect the feasibility of a transfer regarding transfer fees but also salary expectations. in my saves, just decent players with basically no more potential often get a high recommendation when the financial part of a putative deal is easy to handle. I would like to know if the scouts also consider the club expectations. if the board just wants you to finish mid-table, an average player (in respect to the league you play in) that is very cheap is obviously a good signing. club culture (e.g. sign and develop young players to then sell them with a huge profit) might also affect the recommendation?
Have you thought about testing it the other way around? Same idea with low, medium, high scout but try with a few high potential, medium potential, and low potential players and see if they can identify accurately?
Thinking about it, to be thorough, the way to do it would be:
2-3 players of 'high' potential who play the same position and role (premier league potential?)
2-3 players of 'medium' potential " " (championship potential?)
2-3 players of 'low' potential " " (sky bet one/two?)
Good, Medium rear, and Bad scout on the same team so that team ability/need/want/reputation and all other variables should be the same (correct? did I miss anything?) and it should just be the difference in scout ability on their reports.
Hey Zealand. The experiment is quite interesting, however, there might be a difference in what players exactly you scout. All of the players that you listed have a bigger reputation/popularity, and a bad scout can gain the general info since it is out there, people are talking about it. The difference between the scouts and a showcase of their skills might be tested on the unknown players, that are not popular. A good scout should show better results in terms of working from scratch. You can test it as well
OK, so here is the worrying thing for those flying on reports: Your youth intake? The reports could be miles of. Check ALL your incoming youngsters attributes yourself and sign those that have decent attributes at a young age for their current position, OR a position they can be retrained to. I had a 15 y/o left back with 12 finishing, 10 composure and pace with 2 white star rating, he is now my striker at 22 and scoring 20 in his first season in the Premier League, rated at 3* current and 4* PA...
this happened today. i sent my best scout to check this guy federico elbe out (argentine kid playing for estudiantes). he comes back with the report the day spurs sign him. turns out he has 17 drubbling, 18 first touch, 16 technique and 17 pace at 19 years old and i could have gotten him for 5 million. Pain
I agree with other comments. The idea was good but the way the video was done was a little poor.
It would have been better to use the same club all 3 times for the 3 scouts, that way the reports are all the same in context of the team, the variance is reduced and it is purely scouting ability.
Also unknown wonderkids would be better than well known players
Even though this is inconclusive, I think it would be better to invest in Adaptability & Determination for a scout from now on. This could potentially save a lot of $$$ if you have a big scouting team.
I think the potential discrepancy is due to the grayed out star. Until the player is 22 or 23 the scout cannot tell the PA for sure.
Other thing I wonder about is player reputation. Everyone you choose is a relatively known prospect. What about some random Columbian newgen teenager?
Like, I could look at Haaland and determine he's really good. But there's no way I could pick out if the Salvadoran kids dominating local competition has League 1 or Premier League potential.
To make all this expirement more useful you should duplicate the same save and send different levels of scouts for each save but with the same team so you can make a fair comparation
Stars ratings don't rate the PA of the player, they rate the PA compared with your players and, also I think, with the players of the position scouted. Gavi and Reyna are CAM and the others are RW if Im not mistaken. This affects the stars ratings in each team and the recommendation is also influenced by this. Your worst position will receive more 80+ by the same logic.
Each of these players is 100% scouted and the pros/cons is based on attributes (hidden and visible), so I don't think a scout can actually get them wrong. Even a terrible scout will eventually get you a players attributes with 100% accuracy. The "discrepancy" with locker room might just be that it was different teams with different personalities, nationalities etc.
The star ratings have always been a wild ride. I know they're based on your current team, so it makes sense that the better teams had lower star ratings assigned in general. I tend to ignore them other than as a general guide that a player might have some development left in them.
I don't think the recommendation is useful at all - at least the way I check my reports. I still sort for CA/PA, willingness to join, contract etc - so it's redundant. I guess it could be useful to triage a big group of reports that come in.
Maybe the scout attributes speed up the acquisition of data so they don't need as long to get all the player attributes? It's not something I put a lot of investment in. I mostly look for scouts with the world knowledge I want.
Maybe players that dont have the same reputation and obvious talent would be a better test. Even a bad scout could see that Sancho will be world class, but could they tell if someone playing in Serbia or Turkey will be that good?
Maybe you could try the same thing but with these scouts in average/sub top european team and then with average and bad players?
Not sure if it would make a difference, but it's also important for your scouts to recognise bad players.
For some reason flair costs no CA, but clearly it makes your player better. Hence the potential 5 stars on Gavi despite 158 PA, but with high flair. (Who said stars only took PA into account, ignoring "free" stats like flair/determination/natural fitness and hidden traits like consistency/professionalism?)
It may be useful to include some variable levels of player if you were to do this experiment again using the same club as others have suggested. Perhaps do some scale that goes up by 20 PA each player. So PA100, 120, 140, 160, 180. See if the level the player is expected to hit impacts the reports. I would like to see how the reports compare with sub-par players. I would like to see if the difference may be apparent on lower ability players. When using players with higher potential that all scouts know will be "great" moving forward it allows for less variation.
when i skout player i always check,wich (if)clubs want them.if its a club like barcelona,real,psg,man city etc then its a go for me.works 8 out 10 times to be a goo dplayer
I'm playing a save in Japan and the scouting reports are getting me mad. As I can only have 5 foreing players for the J-league (and 3 for the AFC Champions League) tons of player that could easely fit on my team have 50 or least points. That's why I'm buying players based on their attributes and the stars and not paying attention to the report.
Very very interesting! I think I noticed I slight glitch though Z. You used the report from medium scout twice for Demir mate. If true that’ll change this up a little
That said I feel a lot better about the 14-15 skilled scouts I can attract at Hearts now!
You made a mistake on Yusuf Demir Z, you looked at the medium scout report thinking you were looking as the Top scout, you can see that on the corner at 8:17 on the vid! That's why they're the same report
maybe the take-away should be to value World knowledge higher than the attributes? Expand your player knowledge and do your Due Diligence Voodoo , to parse out potential signings?
Another brilliant vid from our boy zealand. is this another thing broken then, love your content mate. Stay safe 😷😷
What i would love to know is if their rating affects how quickly they can deliver the scout report
Surely getting the scout reports from 3 different scouts on the same team would’ve been more accurate for star ratings
Florian Wirtz. And please give tips and strategies for mobile FM21 , don't have a fast laptop.
Why are the roman numerals in different colors? I might need to get my eyes checked but Im pretty sure they're different colors
Sorry to say this but I think you do need to go to an opticien
It wonder if looking through the coach reports for your team and comparing the reports of coaches with various judging scores would be a decent test?
The difference is, you're much more likely to get a false positive from a bad scout. Try scouting a mediocre player that looks almost like he could turn into a good one (a few good stats, goodish personality, etc.), a bad scout will tell you to sign him while a good one will warn you off.
You know, the scouts & Ass Mans assessment of the players league level (sky bet L1/ L2 etc) always throws me off. I have players in my current Boreham Wood save who is "Only a decent VNL level player" who is playing in L1 and has a 7.0 avg rating...
Really should have normalized the players on the 3 teams so the scouts wouldnt be "wrong" for thinking a guy doesnt fit that team
Possibly do the experiment with 3 scouts from the same team (maybe cloned) if possible? I feel like that would be a better control.
Congrats on your doctorate, Dr Zealnd Shannon