Buying electric jetboard from ALIBABA? WATCH THIS FIRST | How to avoid SCAM | Efoil Half The Price?

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  • Опубликовано: 15 июл 2020
  • "12 thousand for a jetboard?? I can buy same half the price on Alibaba!!"
    Every sad story starts the same. There is a good Russian proverb
    saying “a greedy man pays twice” and today I will show you why.
    In this video I am going to show you How to avoid
    scams when buying a cheap jetboard or efoil from China.
    Before we start - a full disclaimer - I am not selling any boards and
    I am not affiliated with any brands so at the end of the day I don’t
    really care what you will buy but it matters for me to warn you
    because these scams are ruining the industry for everyone and have to
    be exposed.
    Also I have nothing against China - and I am looking at you
    coronavirus… I have been working with Chinese factories for many years
    and I even travelled to china personally and visited factories and
    canton fair so I know what I am talking about.
    With that being said lets get started
    Usually when people see a ridiculously high price of the official
    jetboards or efoils like 12 thousand they think “ok let the suckers
    pay that, I am a smart one. Let me search Alibaba and aliexperss I am
    sure I will find same half the price”. If you don’t know Alibaba is
    the biggest marketplace in china like amazon in US.
    They go there and search for electric jetboard or efoil and oh my god!
    Look at that ! exactly same looking boards half or even third the
    price! 3000, 2000 for a jetboard. Now we are talking!
    With all the excitement you are blinded by the scam and get into the trap.
    Let me show you all the pitfalls so you can make an educated decision in future.
    First - there are outright scams that simply steal the fotos and
    videos of legit brands and post them. Look at that… Nothing to even
    discuss here. You are not going to get a legit board for this price
    and this is a blatant false advertising. Alibaba does not care because
    once they sell the unit to the naïve buyer, they re-create the new
    listing and keep on going.
    Second type of Alibaba jetboard seller is also a scam but it’s not
    very clear from the start. They DO have a board and will ship it to
    you if you pay so frankly speaking they don’t fall under scam category
    however what you will get is a dangerous piece of plastic with a
    battery that will leak, rust and most likely put your house on fire.
    Lies, lies and more lies.
    Lets cover each category:
    1. The price. What you see is a lie. This price you see if you
    personally come to china and take it form the factory. If you want it
    to be shipped add to that a massive 700-1000 shipping fee and a
    ridiculous high import tax which can be up to 60% of the product
    price.
    Let me give you an example. I ordered a 400 usd drone from china. On
    that I paid 200 usd shipping (well the drone is not as heavy as a
    jetboard). Then out of 600 usd price paid, I paid additionally 396 usd
    import tax in EU and spent 2 months collecting the paperwork and
    filling endless forms to get the product released from the customs.
    Once I got it - you guess it right, the drone did not even work.
    So if you are ordering to Europe or US - start by doubling the price
    what you see
    2. The looks. I do agree many of these boards look the same as
    legit ones visually. The Chinese factories send the agents to the
    races and trade shows, take fotos and try to duplicate the looks
    pretty well.
    The devil is in detail - visual looks on the fotos mean nothing to a
    real rider if your board is leaking, hatches and screws get rusty
    after first use in the salty water and the battery sets your house on
    fire.
    3. Now characteristics - the weight, riding time etc. Most of
    these are blatant lies. You cant just go to china and verify and if
    you do (like our friend Eric did) - his board ran out of battery after
    10 minutes and they said oh sorry we did not charge it enough..
    Bottom line, all the specs are lies, you will get most likely 10-15
    mins of riding time even if you are lucky that the board even starts
    4. Quality control and safety. There is a reason legit boards are
    heavy. The battery they use pass a lot of quality controls and have a
    lot of safety measures, such as putting the board inside the metal
    fireproof box which makes it heavy. The scam makers don’t bother, well
    truth is they don’t even test it in the water.
    Should I also mention you need a European certificates if you try to
    import dangerous goods to Europe? Do you really need all that hassle?
    5. Now - branding. Branding is very important. There is a reason
    all these Chinese scam boards on Alibaba have generic names and no
    brands.
    The quality brands like DJI even if they produce in china care about
    the branding and don’t release generic products. Past sale service is
    really important.
    That’s all for today.. My final advice - save some money and buy the
    legit boards that have service centers in Europe and stand behind
    their products. You can see reviews on our channel to get the idea
    what to buy.
    www.alibaba.com/
    Examples surfskatefly.com
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Комментарии • 64

  • @JetSurfingNation
    @JetSurfingNation  3 года назад

    This is what you will actually get if ordered from scammers.. A foam toy board worth 2 usd... Lol
    Here how it looks: i.postimg.cc/T31PhzYC/IMG-5202.jpg
    Using this trick the scammers avoid paypal refunds because they show they ACTUALLY shipped you the "product" so you technically cant refund anymore..

  • @bigpharma2705
    @bigpharma2705 3 года назад +1

    My God! This is eye-opening! Thanks for bringing this up

  • @JoseGonzalezgonzalezjperez
    @JoseGonzalezgonzalezjperez 3 года назад +1

    Thank you bro! Love your videos

  • @efoil
    @efoil 3 года назад +1

    Watched it again. great video!

    • @JetSurfingNation
      @JetSurfingNation  3 года назад +1

      You're the best! Thank you for always supporting me and commenting, it always helps!

  • @alvarobarrapontesnetoponte4913
    @alvarobarrapontesnetoponte4913 4 года назад +1

    Very enlightening matter, thank you to open our eyes👍

  • @SanjiAidu
    @SanjiAidu 4 года назад +3

    Thank you for this useful video, it is really helpful for everybody considering buying an efoil or esurf.
    Quality has a price and good research before ordering is essential. Your youtube channel is the place to look nice and informative videos about the brands, the specs, the prices etc.
    Keep up the good work. Looking forward for your next video : )

  • @fatsurfercom
    @fatsurfercom 4 года назад +1

    thx for exposing scammers!

  • @varangersurf8869
    @varangersurf8869 3 года назад +1

    you save my live man, cheers !!

  • @anatolijsflegantovs6769
    @anatolijsflegantovs6769 3 года назад +1

    Good explaining video
    Thanks

  • @iandouglas703
    @iandouglas703 3 года назад +1

    Wish i saw this video long ago because I am one of those that got one from Alibaba and they are a total crap had mine over a year but after 2 rides the motor jammed, after couple of months the factory send me a new motor + ESC, I replaced it worked for 7 rides and now ESC is giving me error 14 which apperantly means something wrong with one of the mofsets, the only good thing is that I am still in contact with the factory engineer trying to diagnose the issue but I don't have much hope of getting it fixed.

  • @HelmetBlissta
    @HelmetBlissta 4 года назад +1

    Thanks

  • @Youmakeusproud
    @Youmakeusproud 3 года назад

    🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @user-nu3hf1hb2e
    @user-nu3hf1hb2e 3 года назад +4

    Sorry to hear about this, I know the cases are true and common in Alibaba or other shopping websites in China. Actually, our factory is making our own boards and may publish it next year or later. We know the quality is important, meanwhile, this is really an objective and professional channel. I am now thinking it a must to send you the board to test for advice before selling if it is possible.

    • @user-nu3hf1hb2e
      @user-nu3hf1hb2e 3 года назад +1

      There are a lot of problems during the process but we are trying our best not to make it a dangerous plastic :)

    • @JetSurfingNation
      @JetSurfingNation  3 года назад

      Looking forward to test it. Thank you

    • @JetSurfingNation
      @JetSurfingNation  3 года назад +1

      Ideally is to send us a demo board and come yourself for an interview. It is a long flight but worth it, as it’s good for sales when developers stand behind the quality of a product and dont hide like on those scams from alibaba.

    • @zero00tolerance
      @zero00tolerance 3 года назад

      Link to your website or alibaba ?

    • @fredericdahirel6561
      @fredericdahirel6561 3 года назад

      Hello if you wish to have a spot in France to deal your boards , please take contact . phydroptere@gmail.com thank you !

  • @JetSurfingNation
    @JetSurfingNation  4 года назад +2

    Avoid the scam and get a legit jet board!

  • @andyward3478
    @andyward3478 3 года назад +1

    hi having trouble finding dealers in australia that why i went to ebay payed with paypal thought i was covered but still git scammed

  • @Ride-cu3pj
    @Ride-cu3pj 2 года назад +3

    you have not even tested these boards from China, if you did you would show proof in the video, this is all just talk and your opinion.

    • @JetSurfingNation
      @JetSurfingNation  2 года назад

      Probably you missed this jetsurfingnation.com/index.php/2021/08/22/i-got-scammed-how-i-lost-12500-usd-on-efoils-from-alibaba/

  • @dustinfrisk3262
    @dustinfrisk3262 3 года назад +2

    Not in the US BRO. I've purchased and never paid all those fees. Can u show us what those documents look like? And does Portugal charge u once it arrives in ur country? 🤔

    • @JetSurfingNation
      @JetSurfingNation  3 года назад

      What did you purchase? A jetboard? And did not pay any custom fees when it came from China to US? I hardly believe. Please kindly be more specific.
      If you order expensive product like that from China the fees are huge.
      In Portugal (and any EU country) if you order expensive stuff from China you will be filling the paperword and paying a lot in brockerage+tax+fees. Here is fresh example from yesterday from Fedex, I was ordering a diving scooter from China:
      i.postimg.cc/gJfB8T9q/customs.png hope it helps. Cheers!

    • @zero00tolerance
      @zero00tolerance 3 года назад

      Which one did you purchase link please ?

  • @lightdepsolutionssolutions4099
    @lightdepsolutionssolutions4099 3 года назад

    I wish I'd waited... I trusted your videos a lot and feel like I should have waited before buying the JETWAKE from Korea...

    • @zero00tolerance
      @zero00tolerance 3 года назад

      So did you buy it and got a crappy board or something ?

  • @apollohmiv42
    @apollohmiv42 3 года назад +1

    What about ewave jetboard??

    • @JetSurfingNation
      @JetSurfingNation  3 года назад

      Ewave is not a scam. It’s sold via dealers in Europe and USA who provide Guarante and service

    • @TheSkyCactus
      @TheSkyCactus 3 месяца назад

      They sell them out of Spain now with free shipping, so it would potentially not be a huge risk, since AliExpress hopefully will cover you if the board breaks

  • @andyward3478
    @andyward3478 3 года назад +1

    hi all i brought a board from a company they said was in australia.but it was an agent for a chinese company.after 4 uses went wrong safety key failed and would not stop at full speed luckily dragged it onto beach and yanked battery out .luckily it did hurt anyone including small children playing in the sea .stay away from any of these chinese board and research the company thanks andy

    • @JetSurfingNation
      @JetSurfingNation  3 года назад

      From what I saw on your fotos is a well known scam "blea board". From what I read it's not waterproof and once the water gets inside after few uses, everything inside is destroyed. Be careful with the battery and utilize it with your fire department to avoid battery fire in house, don't store faulty unit in the house.

  • @amineb4629
    @amineb4629 3 года назад

    Quelqu’un m’explique en français si alibaba est fiable ?

    • @JetSurfingNation
      @JetSurfingNation  3 года назад +1

      Alibaba itself is not a scam but most boards sold there are scam. Get a legit French board like e takuma or pwr foil

  • @regeta2003
    @regeta2003 3 года назад +1

    So the moral of story: Don't buy from Alibaba? And what is your suggestion if you are being fair?

    • @JetSurfingNation
      @JetSurfingNation  3 года назад

      Exactly. Stay away from alibaba, reach your local jetboards dealer in your country, book a demo and buy from them a legit board.

    • @regeta2003
      @regeta2003 3 года назад +1

      @@JetSurfingNation but you with all these channels and contents and experience cannot suggest something?

    • @JetSurfingNation
      @JetSurfingNation  3 года назад

      You can see my suggestions here jetsurfingnation.com/index.php/compare-boards/
      I made a video "how to choose a jetboard" with tips

  • @miamiwax5504
    @miamiwax5504 2 года назад

    Can't u look at feedback of the seller?

    • @JetSurfingNation
      @JetSurfingNation  2 года назад

      It will not help you much. Most reviews are fake or non-existent.

  • @simonsantander5816
    @simonsantander5816 3 года назад

    Did u buy one on alibaba?

    • @JetSurfingNation
      @JetSurfingNation  3 года назад

      Stay away from jetboards on alibaba

    • @simonsantander5816
      @simonsantander5816 3 года назад +1

      @@JetSurfingNation You didnt do it didnt you!

    • @JetSurfingNation
      @JetSurfingNation  3 года назад

      Did you watch the video? Not sure what you are asking or trying to say. I order stuff from Alibaba and Aliexpress every week but i would recommend to stay away from generic jetboards and efoils sold there. It's a waste of money.

    • @simonsantander5816
      @simonsantander5816 3 года назад +1

      @@JetSurfingNation Yes I did and I want to know which model did u buy.

    • @patakiattila8970
      @patakiattila8970 2 года назад

      You just keep mentioning the screws start to rust. And what if those screws are stainless? Then it won't rust.

  • @luca5961
    @luca5961 2 года назад

    Can i buy a board with 1000 euro’s?

    • @JetSurfingNation
      @JetSurfingNation  2 года назад

      Not really. Most jetboards start at 5-6k

    • @luca5961
      @luca5961 2 года назад

      @@JetSurfingNation ok thx!

  • @Joker7x7
    @Joker7x7 2 года назад

    Это полный бред, сразу видно автор ни чего не понимает в досках и заказе из Китая! Есть там и брак и обман, но если найти хорошего поставщика, то цена будет в 3-4 раза дешевле! Сам лично уже штук 10 заказал разных досок и проблем небыло, все соответствовало заявленным характеристикам! Конечно качество может быть ниже чем у европейских досок, но незначительно! При этом цена за доску будет в 3-4 раза дешевле!

    • @JetSurfingNation
      @JetSurfingNation  2 года назад

      Где конкретные примеры? за 5 лет в индустрии я вижу бесконечные примеры, когда люди заказали из китая и получили треш, доски, которые вообще не работают . Вот свежий пример, буквально вчера:
      forum.e-surfer.com/t/sava-brand-jetboard-is-it-legit/2484/26
      Где ваши 10 разных досок? Где видео катания на них, как они выглядят, кто катается, как называются? Пустые слова.