How DCA Got So Bad… TWICE

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @StarlightHaze13
    @StarlightHaze13 7 дней назад +6

    I completely agree with y’all! For me, both Disneyland and DCA peaked between 2012 and 2016. Guardians of the Galaxy really just ruined the aesthetic of the park.

  • @carlosespca
    @carlosespca 6 дней назад +5

    I still can’t believe they haven’t fix the night mode of the characters in Incredicoster

  • @allenmovies
    @allenmovies 2 дня назад

    I miss how charming and whimsical a bugs land was. Even thougg it was geared towards kids, it was visually fun, unique, and its tough to be a bug was such a cool show. Avengers Campus feels like a random new mall.

  • @Douglas-1994
    @Douglas-1994 6 дней назад +5

    9:00. Why did DCA have to get rid of tower of terror 😭😭

  • @thedoctor4637
    @thedoctor4637 3 дня назад +1

    There is a difference between the Anaheim resort and Orlando resort. Orlando is more based on travel to the resort tourism; while Anaheim is more geared to locals from SoCal spending a day (maybe two) where they can experience more of California in one day that is outside their everyday bubble. I agree DCA piked in 2012 with the new Carsland and before the loss of Paradise Pier and Bug’s Land

  • @allenmovies
    @allenmovies 2 дня назад

    The California theme could have been so great with a proper budget and fully embracing the more "vintage California" vibe. The original retheme plans they had for Hollywood Land to became an "Old Hollywood" type area, with a beautiful new facade for the Hyperion, is such a missed opportunity

  • @criticalspectrum8383
    @criticalspectrum8383 11 часов назад

    This video hits the nail on the head of the problem with modern Disney especially with theme park front

  • @donaldcrabtree6259
    @donaldcrabtree6259 7 дней назад +3

    Excellent editorial on California Adventure. I agree. Like you, never liked original incarnation. I came by all the time 2005-2017, Carsland was impressive. Am not too enthusiastic about the Incredibles. California Adventure's disjointedness is only magnified by the comparative cohesiveness of the Disneyland portion of the Park.

  • @jhigginbotham7547
    @jhigginbotham7547 2 дня назад

    They realized that Euro Disney failed because they tried to bring a mini Europe to Europe, so they decided to bring a mini California to California

  • @yelazyy
    @yelazyy 3 дня назад +1

    I miss dca 2015 so much ♥♥♥

  • @FloridaJit434
    @FloridaJit434 2 дня назад

    I vastly prefer DCA 1.0 to this modern version

  • @desertnaturealliance
    @desertnaturealliance 8 дней назад +3

    I agree with you wholeheartedly. Carsland is a great area. We just went in October and I didn’t even bother with the new tower. My disappointment is Disney never thought of giving us a full Beauty and the Beast Land with multiple rides ( be our guest ? An immersive ride beast Adventure?) , an Aladdin magic carpet ride, or anything Lion King? There’s a huge gap in favorite movies they could have put in DCA

    • @CloverLoop
      @CloverLoop  8 дней назад +1

      Totally feel ya! A Beauty and the Beast area would be epic! Disney really needs to step up their game and give us those classic movie vibes in the park! The BatB ride in Japan is next level!

  • @timslee0618
    @timslee0618 8 дней назад +3

    Oh God the LuminAria Firework show from 01 to 02 was something and a disaster as well in DCA

    • @CloverLoop
      @CloverLoop  8 дней назад +1

      I never got to see it in person, but it sounds like it was a fiasco

    • @timslee0618
      @timslee0618 8 дней назад

      @CloverLoop the theme music from that show is now used for Wintertime Enchantment at Disneyland with the lyrics changed

  • @psychopouncer1
    @psychopouncer1 8 дней назад +1

    Hey guys! Thank you for the history lesson and the visual trip down memory lane at DCA! My wife and I were also a young couple back in the early days when it was still Disney’s California Adventure. We even ate at the Soap Opera Bistro one time! Although I must disagree a bit because I love DCA and I think it’s the 2nd best theme park! But then, I loved DCA back in 2001 and didn’t understand why it got so much hate so I guess I’m just a Disney apologist. I’m with you guys on Avengers Campus tho! 👎🏼

  • @eliassmeke3991
    @eliassmeke3991 8 дней назад +7

    DCA is not bad again!!! 😠😠😠

    • @CloverLoop
      @CloverLoop  8 дней назад +1

      Totally a fair opinion. What do you like best about the current version of DCA?

    • @eliassmeke3991
      @eliassmeke3991 8 дней назад +1

      ⁠@@CloverLoop Pixar Pier is a fun 🤩 area

  • @RyanCameron
    @RyanCameron 8 дней назад +4

    I never realized how bad DCA actually was until my first visit back after the pandemic. This was in that short window when they were only doing ticket sales before they started selling Magic Key passes. The only other time I had visited the park on a single park access ticket was the very first time in early 2004 on a Southern California Resident ticket promotion. It was all new to me then as my previous last visit inside any Disney park was my Disneyland Grad Nite in the early 90's. After spending a day in each park on the ticket deal, I upgraded to a pass as I thought I might want to come back once the soon to open Tower of Terror opened. All my visits after that first time was as a passholder and always with the ability to park hop. It really masked how disappointing DCA is as an individual experience when you could jump to the other park no problem. The two days I bought after the reopening with one for each park, the Disneyland day was fine and I really enjoyed seeing the park again.
    The DCA day, it just really slammed home how lacking the park is. It is not worthy of it's individual day price compared to Disneyland. That particular visit I picked a date when Avengers Campus had opened so I could have a chance to see it but on the day was unsucessful getting a spot in the virtual queue to access it and I wasn't about to wait in 3 hour standby line just to get into that land. So after I got to enjoy a couple rounds on the Incredicoaster (I like to challenge myself to get great photos on the coaster) and no ability to park hop, I realized I tend to only do the other rides if I have someone with me who wants to ride them as I rarely go on them by myself. There really wasn't anything there I wanted to do. I had never been so disappointed in it up to that point.
    The disappointments continued once I got a Magic Key as the reservation system completely ruined how I liked to enjoy the parks. I tend to be more of a rope dropper as I would beat the morning traffic up to Disneyland from San Diego, spend a couple hours in the first park, hop to the second for a couple more hours before calling it a day usually between noon and 1 pm in order to beat the traffic home. The reservation system at the time didn't allow park hopping until 1pm then. I'd often get to the park and discover 7 out of 10 times the park I wanted to visit first on the day was not the one I had picked for the reservation. I missed being able to decide which park I wanted to visit first when I got there. No matter which park I started with on the reservations, I was generally done with all I wanted to do in that park within 2-3 hours. I'd still have a 2-3 hour wait before I could park hop, so I just went home. I felt quite bitter about how ridiculous the pass price was when I wasn't able to enjoy the both parks on my days because I wasn't going to stay all day. I didn't renew at all once that pass expired. I just didn't want to commit to the number of visits it was going to take to feel like I had gotten good value for my money. Sure I miss the parks but I don't miss the reservation aggrivation or feeling like I have to go.

    • @CloverLoop
      @CloverLoop  8 дней назад +1

      I know what you mean. My first annual pass was purchased on that same SoCal resident promotion. I came to appreciate how empty DCA was, but that's certainly not a good thing for the long-term viability of a theme park.
      I wasn't in SoCal through the pandemic, but I stayed in close touch with friends who were. And yes, it sounds like the Disneyland Resort was a soup sandwich for a while. I think I would be been really frustrated if I had been trying to go to parks regularly after the lockdown period.
      Sometimes I think about how disappointed I would be as a first-time visitor to the DLR who chose DCA as my first (or god forbid ONLY) park. 10 times out of 10 I would tell first time visitors to go to Disneyland if they can only choose one park. That's as true as ever in 2024

    • @toshibavoodoo
      @toshibavoodoo 7 дней назад

      Disneyland is magic, and yet current leadership is chipping away at that magic every year. DCA was an add on, but with the cost skyrocketing, I refuse to spend money outside of Disneyland. Good insight

  • @gridley
    @gridley 8 дней назад +1

    DisneySea in Tokyo, which also opened in 2001, was the insult to injury of the 2nd Disney theme park in Anaheim. Even if the budget for DCA weren't restricted, the "California" theme was something that a Six Flags-type park might go for. And that was even before the image of California had become as pockmarked the way it now is. Over 20 years later, DisneySea is as ambitious as ever before. Meanwhile, not just DCA but some of the Disney parks in Orlando seem increasingly AWOL As for the park built in 1955, its recent new attraction was an addition after a subtraction. And sort of creatively/technically ho-hum the way DCA was in 2001.

  • @gabrieldally6044
    @gabrieldally6044 6 дней назад

    The thing I really liked about DCA 2.0 is that they connected the park to Walt Disney. Buena Vista Street is A 1920s version of Los Angeles, The Way Walt Disney saw it as he started his "California Adventure." You could literally take the red car trolley from Buena Vista Street to the Hollywood Tower Hotel just like you could in the 1920s. There were also a lot more lands that were centered around California and I did a classy job upgrading them, A great example is grizzly Peak in 2015 and Paradise Pier in 2010. Not to mention the park had an absolutely STACKED entertainment lineup. They had Aladdin, Pixar play parade, World of Color OG, red car trolley newsboys, five and dime, Muppet vision, It's tough to be a bug, Mad T- Party, instant concert: Just add water, & Minnie's Fly girls.

  • @disneygirl5577
    @disneygirl5577 4 дня назад

    For me, 2012 was the best year for DCA. When we go to Disneyland, I never want to go to DCA because it's not worth it for me. I do think it's bad again and just an IP dumping ground

  • @isaacrodriguez8668
    @isaacrodriguez8668 5 дней назад

    Ive loved my time at DCA over the last decade 😢

  • @SamCarter-e5v
    @SamCarter-e5v 7 дней назад

    i see the theme of DCA as a celebration of the Walt Disney Company, with a backdrop of California. Especially with the entrance being BVS. I wish they pushed more about why Carthay is the icon there, if that ONE NIGHT didn't go well, (snow white premiere) there would be no Disneyland.

  • @lonesoul663
    @lonesoul663 4 дня назад

    I don't like how Pixar took a big dump on DCA. I really only like the Grizzly Peak and Buena Vista Street areas. Radiator Springs is good too.
    Also wish Disney parks had more original attractions. IP bores me to death.

  • @Rogerland99
    @Rogerland99 8 дней назад +7

    I was an annual passholder in 2001 and got to go to DCA on day one. With high expectations, I entered and I first noticed the entrance was tacky, then went on Soarin’ over CA , which was great, showed innovation and that Disney magic. Then onto Grizzly rapids, good ride, but hated staring at 4 strangers throughout this ride. Walked through the Redwood forest trail, was OK, but nothing special. Then I headed towards Paradise Pier, and thought Disney had lost its collective mind. There was something like 5 circular rides, a ferris wheel (which Walt never wanted at any of his parks), and a neck wrenching Mulholland themed coaster. These rides were all minor variations of standard rides you could find at a church carnival on any weekend. A dead lake, with no ride associated or any kinetic motion (yeah, we were teased with a surf beach with breaking waves, and we got a lame “wave” waterfall instead). CA Screamin’ although a thrilling ride, was and still is (even though now cheaply rethemed as the Incredicoaster) ugly as Hell and the biggest eyesore I’ve ever seen at a Disney park. The magic of Disney has always been to hide all the coaster support beams and struts behind attractive theming (see Matterhorn, Big Thunder, and Space Mountain). Also, DCA has terrible sight lines throughout the park. As of late 2024, there is very little CA left in DCA. DCA now is just a hodge podge of unrelated IP attractions. Avengers campus is terrible and there is nothing to it. Guardians of the Galaxy is a chaotic and terrible ride. The Spiderman ride is beyond stupid. Goofy’s flight school looks like some high schoolers were given 8 sheets of plywood and some paint and told to retheme the ride in a week. Radiator Springs is a great ride, but the theming gives off more of an Arizona or southern Utah vibe than CA to me. They are now getting rid of the red Trolleys, another removal of CA from DCA. They need to rename DCA to Disney’s IP and World Adventures. If it were up to me, I would bulldoze everything except Soarin’ and Radiator Springs, bring back the CA theming, and add in quality rides and attractions. Redesign the park, and make it so there are sight lines. At the entrance should be greeted with palm trees, a sandy beach with breaking waves, an island, and large mountains in the back ground.

    • @CloverLoop
      @CloverLoop  8 дней назад +3

      Great comment! Thank you so much for sharing! You bring up so many good points. It had never occurred to me how much of an eyesore California Screamin / Incredicoaster is. I always kinda accepted it because IMO it's intentional to create a boardwalk/pier atmosphere. But yes-- you are so right. Disney doesn't typically build roller coasters the old fashioned way.
      I am DISTRESSED by the removal of the trolleys. Totally impractical? Yes, but... none of the "Main Street Vehicle" style conveyances were ever intended to be more efficient that walking. These vehicles are a different way to see the parks, and the removal of the Red Car Trolleys takes us even further from 1920s California, which is nuts because Buena Vista Street isn't going anywhere any time soon.
      WHEW! Thanks for watching, thanks for your thoughts :)

    • @toshibavoodoo
      @toshibavoodoo 7 дней назад +1

      Every word is true. I love Soaring and grizzly area, has great vibes and good sight lines. BUT, the rest is a really shiny Carnival. So much waisted potential.

  • @gododgers081
    @gododgers081 8 дней назад +1

    I love Disneyland and I hate when people talk bad about Disneyland but I have to agree with you. DCA is a disaster. I go there every year and I buy a hopper ticket just to ride three rides because they’re so little to do there. It is not a 14 hour park and they know it. That’s why it closes so early.

  • @jimt9245
    @jimt9245 6 дней назад

    I liked the burnt coffee smell as we entered the old postcard entrance, even though I missed the reference at the time. But Buena Vista Street was a huge upgrade as a way to connect with Walt Disney's perspective and the addition of the Red Cars. Just wished they had a solution to the backlot area. I can image now that Tiki culture has made a resurgence that The Beachcomber would be popular now.
    As a stand alone land - Carland is good, but it does not compliment the rest of the park. Carland has much business of being in DCA and Galaxy Edge needs to be north of the Rivers of America. But the success of Carsland, lead to the lazy encore of Pixar Pier. I would also argue that Bug's Land was more respectful to the over all theme of the park where as Carsland bucked this whole notion of an overarching theme, which leads to further dilution of a park identify. AS an encore, Pixar Pier is a low cost overlay to a collection of flat rides and the coaster and followed by Marvel as it's anonymous streetscape that includes the visual blight that used to be the Tower of Terror.

  • @allenmovies
    @allenmovies 2 дня назад

    I miss the DCA from around 2012ish. That was when it peaked IMO. Everything since then has been such a hodge podge of random IPs slapped together. Some of it feels just as cheap as DCA 1.0, just with IP characters attached now. I wish they would have completed the Victorian Seaside Pier vision for Paradise Pier, which they started but then slapped the tacky Pixar crap all over it and ruined it.

  • @stanfordite1
    @stanfordite1 День назад

    DCA will be great again when Disney gets broken up under antitrust and has to remove Pixar and Marvel from the park to avoid paying billions in licensing fees to those once again independent studios. That means welcome back Paradise Pier, California Screamin, and Tower of Terror. I have plans to take over Disney myself and DCA will either adhere to the California theming or I might even turn it back into a parking lot.

  • @danielbaker4361
    @danielbaker4361 8 дней назад +1

    How bout These Haters get a Real Job 👎🙏

  • @MsDisneylandlover
    @MsDisneylandlover 5 дней назад

    Is your real name clover bc if it is that is so cool😊

  • @MsDisneylandlover
    @MsDisneylandlover 5 дней назад

    Hey guys ❤#DisneyDiva ❤

  • @laranjoeric
    @laranjoeric 7 дней назад

    I have enjoyed DCA in the past. Enjoyed the CA themes. The Aladdin show, Pixar Pier, etc. MARVEL Does not belong in Disneyland. They should have kept Bugs Land and improve it. And keep the CA themes and Tower of Terror. Cars land is awesome.

  • @Mike__B
    @Mike__B 8 дней назад

    There are two parts of DCA that I really enjoy, first Cars Land is absolutely fantastic as an adult or as an adult who has brought my kid it's just beyond awesome, and to have a night time effect due to the lights that makes it even better they absolutely hit a home run with that. Then the other part is simply that pathway from around Soarin' all the way to the pier area, I'm not talking about the rides or the kids play area next to the hotel, just that pathway is one of the most peaceful enjoyable walks in any Disney park for me. Everything else though, yeah, yikes. Avengers Campus is an IP abomination of an area, I understand replacing Bugs Land but man that place is 1 ride (I do not count Guardians as part of it), a couple shows they periodically have of which the Dr Strange one the removed, and a bunch of places to buy novelty food and toys, big pass for me. There are things like the Animation Studio which is a nice relaxing area where you can find out how horrible of an artist you are (I do really enjoy it) and the Little Mermaid is a nice dark ride, but other than that nothing really pulls me to go there.
    Now that all said, do I feel like DCA has gotten worse? Not really. I remember going and having attractions like "Learning how to make tortillas" and "here's how they make sour dough bread", walking past some tiny gardens that were grown food, and just utter garbage that supposedly was "California" including the whole Boardwalk/Pier area. Hmmm, although now that I think about it, I'm changing my mind Lightning Lane has made it worse, seeing a 2 switchback line at Goofy flight school and thinking it's a short wait that turns into a 45 minute wait due to the non-stop line of people with LL reservations has made me lose all hope in Disney parks.

  • @ThemeparkNThings
    @ThemeparkNThings 8 дней назад

    Dca is awesome

  • @wittsdd
    @wittsdd 7 дней назад +1

    Avengers campus is absolute garbage. Disney needs to tear it down

  • @PapaMorty-
    @PapaMorty- 8 дней назад +2

    Clearly yall never visited DCA before 2012…

    • @CloverLoop
      @CloverLoop  8 дней назад

      Why do you say that? We started going regularly in 2003 and then very frequently starting in 2005. I think I mention this in the video