Understanding Blues Guitar. Part IV. Mixing Major & Minor Pentatonic Scales In Blues Guitar.

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  • Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024

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  • @JB-se2ef
    @JB-se2ef 4 года назад +17

    Just watched this a couple more times and WOW 😳 not just a light 💡 moment it was Blackpool illuminations Thanks again Richard 🎶😁🤘🏻🎸

    • @RichardsGuitarshop
      @RichardsGuitarshop  4 года назад +8

      That’s what I want to hear!!!! Yehaaaa! Hand on heart I genuinely felt this had some really important content that I was proud to share so I am really chuffed that you felt that way. Makes it worthwhile

    • @rydinorwin
      @rydinorwin 2 года назад

      Agreed, this was exactly what I have been stuck on, for way too long! Best tube video ever!

  • @bidikei7854
    @bidikei7854 Год назад +1

    So I’ve been playing the guitar for like 20 years, rock and metal and I only played diatonic, harmonic minor, melodic minor and chromatic. I recently I learned about blues because there’s almost no blues here in my area I just heard it online. First I started with pentatonic then later learned the blue note but still it doesn’t sound like deep blues. Then I searched so I found mixing minor and major just like yours but they don’t explain it like you do. Now I understand it very well and I learned that blues is actually 10 notes on the scale including the blue note and with proper bending. I usually improvise and hit wild notes but I am not sure about the sound, now I am super excited to practice and apply what I’ve learned from you. You are a hero!

    • @RichardsGuitarshop
      @RichardsGuitarshop  Год назад +1

      Thank you SO much :) I dont normally comment because I am so wrapped up in life and work etc but its so lovely to read this - thank you.

  • @brucemurdoch6713
    @brucemurdoch6713 4 года назад +7

    Absolutely the most informative lesson I've seen in 6 year's, very very very well done.

  • @jordborsboom2634
    @jordborsboom2634 4 года назад +9

    This guy has an enormous capacity of skill in teaching, the way he forms his sentences and chooses his words, are (next to his amazing guitar skills) astonishing.
    Richard, I'm very greatful that there are people like you around the internet that are willing to take their time and effort to share this kind of knowledge with people you don't even know FOR FREE.
    You sir are the MVP.
    I'm here, ready and waiting for part V of the understanding blues guitar series.

  • @barryjmccormack
    @barryjmccormack 3 месяца назад

    Thank you ! This video helps a lot. I have been playing this stuff for years but never knew why it worked ! Its a real eye opener when you get the concepts. Good stuff!

  • @dougsmith8430
    @dougsmith8430 2 года назад +2

    This is an Awesome lesson! Finally, someone has taken the time to break down mixing these Blues Scales through theory, scale diagrams and walking us through so we can understand through our brains our ears and our fingers! THANK YOU RICHARD! I SUBSCRIBED!

  • @gwynsea8162
    @gwynsea8162 3 года назад +1

    Oh, and another suggestion... modes... I've never fully got my head round using them or really understanding their use enough... I've watched some videos but none have ever hit the spot.. typically focusing on what they are but not how and why you use them!

  • @rebeccaabraham8652
    @rebeccaabraham8652 3 года назад +1

    Right - I’ve watched all the videos now - and it matches up with what I’ve been teaching myself over the last two years - using the relative positions of the notes comprising the chords - because the different position patterns got totally confusing! However - the one thing that you’re doing that is tearing out what’s left of my brain cells is your talk of minor thirds and especially the minor seventh - because they make me - and presumably a lot of other people - think of the chords rather than the notes. If you referred to them by their unambiguous names like flat(tened) third or flat(tened) seventh - it would make more sense! As a multi-instrumentalist, I’m relating all the content of these videos to my other instruments, where it’s helping clarify ideas - but it would help tremendously if I didn’t have to stop all the time to translate your terminology back into the standard terminology I learned when I started learning music!

  • @andyexall5104
    @andyexall5104 2 года назад

    three odd years I have been trying to play guitar wow you have enlightened me wwith this thank you so much Richard

  • @joshuatracy5750
    @joshuatracy5750 2 года назад

    FINALLY I CAN PLAY MY OWN LICKS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT TO PLAY NEXT AND WHY I EITHER NEED TO PLAY THREW/ BEND/FINISH ON THAT NOTE!! I am so grateful I stumbled on your videos!! I was that player “copycat ting” licks but not understanding them! Watched countless videos on blues licks, scales, theory, bb box but none of made it as easy to understand! I bought my guitar almost a year ago and was about to give it up and for the last three days I can’t stop playing you have opened a whole new world for me! I CANT THANK YOU ENOUGH!! LIFE CHANGING STUFF FOR ME!! Can’t wait to keep watching this is my first time subscribing and posting on you tube!! You really helped me I hope you read this and feel how sincere I am that I can improvise my own blues music is something I’ve wanted so badly and you made it possible!! THANK YOU!!

  • @lc.arcdesign
    @lc.arcdesign Год назад

    You answered a big question that I had in the relation of these scales. Thank you so much!

  • @northshoreproductions3787
    @northshoreproductions3787 2 года назад

    Wow! Game changer right there. The explanation of why both minor and major pentatonics work over a dominant 7 chord now makes perfect sense. I was always getting confused with the relative minor of a key. Thank you, my man!

  • @Bero70
    @Bero70 4 года назад +2

    This is pure Gold. If you make a video about playing Minor Pentatonic in F# position over A major chord and explain intervals it would bring your First,and this video all together. Amazing man.Thanks.

  • @tnvalleyyoga7122
    @tnvalleyyoga7122 Год назад

    most of what you've taught in these 4 videos I mostly already knew but looking at the scale, say position 1 of the A pentatonic, and then changing the scale, while staying in the same position, to D, then to E really gave me more understanding of my choices. Thank you, You have a knack tor teaching,

  • @haroldbaker555
    @haroldbaker555 2 года назад

    Thanks again mate, can't believe these are free!

  • @howardrosenbaum5528
    @howardrosenbaum5528 2 года назад

    Amazing lesson on using major and minor pentatonic intervals. This is way to play the blues.

  • @shauryapratap7501
    @shauryapratap7501 3 года назад

    I have been trying to play licks and blues riffs for a long time; never can remember a lick. I could improvise and land on right notes most of the time but never really knew what I was actually doing....maybe I was not listening to what I was playing. Your lesson made me listen to myself and I could really make out the difference of ending a phrase on different chord tones. I am a teacher myself and I really like how you make things sound simple.
    Thanks!

  • @glenntreadaway544
    @glenntreadaway544 4 года назад +2

    PLEASE KEEP THESE COMING!!!

  • @pgquin
    @pgquin 4 года назад +1

    I've learned a lot from this video, even while sneaking a peak from my 'work' computer. Looking forward to sitting down behind my Telecaster tonight and having a go. Thanks Richard!

  • @kevinwallace3415
    @kevinwallace3415 4 года назад +1

    I've always been confused about how and when (and even where) to move from Minor to Major etc. My blues playing sounded very limited and boring. The penny is now dropping! A revelation. I now know to think about the intervals, not the notes per se, and practise when to mix in a Major riff, or note, in the right place. I wish I could have seen this video a long time ago. Excellent lesson and clear explanation. Thank you.

    • @RichardsGuitarshop
      @RichardsGuitarshop  4 года назад +1

      Fantastic - so gla you feel that way. Keep in touch as I will be bringing more when I have time. If you havent done so - please do check out 1 & 2 in this series as they should help too!

  • @alaster33
    @alaster33 2 года назад

    Supper cool , you make it look and sound so simple yet full and melodic

  • @LemeeHenrik
    @LemeeHenrik 4 года назад +2

    Absolutely great lesson Richard. Really like your approach and your pedagogical explanation. I like the visual shape scales and that you also play the examples on your guitar so we can hear, what’s all about. Music Theory can we a little bit mysterious and woodo thing, but you manage to bring it back on earth. Thank you Richard, keep on the good work.

    • @RichardsGuitarshop
      @RichardsGuitarshop  4 года назад +1

      Thank you so much. So glad you like my approach. Sadly it takes a lot of time I dont seem to be able to find but as long as people get something from them it drives me to do more!

  • @nicholasseay9976
    @nicholasseay9976 3 года назад

    Well you did it. I never planned on commenting on a youtube video ever, but this lesson is legendary and deserves more eyes and ears. Fantastic job!

    • @RichardsGuitarshop
      @RichardsGuitarshop  3 года назад

      Oh man..... can't thank you enough for such kind words. So glad you feel you benefited from it.

  • @RichardsGuitarshop
    @RichardsGuitarshop  4 года назад +4

    I really enjoyed doing this one - Its an area that I think is VITAL to grasp if you are keen on playing blues and so often is totally misunderstood or as I mention in the video - totally ignored. I really hope you you like it.

  • @arumoydutta1349
    @arumoydutta1349 3 года назад

    I'm paying INR 7000 for my guitar classes and this was exactly what was bothering me after my first blues class i.e how major and minor are overlapping and how will i tackle it. My teacher dint show me the path. You did Richards. Damn sl right you did. Have now watched all 4 parts of this series'. Your detailed vision is enlightening me as well as many others I'm sure. A big thank you sir.

  • @JB-se2ef
    @JB-se2ef 4 года назад +3

    This one’s got me thinking a bit going to have to watch this a few times Thanks Richard 🎶🤘🏻🎸

    • @RichardsGuitarshop
      @RichardsGuitarshop  4 года назад +4

      I would like to believe there is a lot packed into 30 minutes! I am really actually very pleased with it. I think you can pause the video a lot - and spend plenty of time on each fact and soak it all up. Its all in there I hope.

    • @jamesdonalfaulkner
      @jamesdonalfaulkner 2 года назад

      @@RichardsGuitarshop It is very good, but so much info does overwhelm me; I'll have to watch it many times to assimlate it. Thanks, Richard.

  • @MustafaBaabad
    @MustafaBaabad 3 года назад

    I saw that "major" pentatonic scale is actually the same as position 2 on pentatonic scale (as I understand there are 5 position of pentatonic scale). Anyway I become like a high school student again. I bring note book and try to catch and digest at the same time. Thanks Chief. Cheers from Indonesia.

  • @rolty1
    @rolty1 4 года назад +2

    great stuff, its always challenging and inspiring to see these insights, thank you!

  • @gwynsea8162
    @gwynsea8162 3 года назад

    Hi Richard, This series is fab. I've been playing a long time but never understood theory well enough. Love this stuff. Thanks

  • @bigbrad718
    @bigbrad718 4 года назад

    Man this video is great I love playing guitar but I just need a great teacher and I found one in you. These videos make me want to play guitar and this made me decide that I want to play guitar when I’m older. God bless.

  • @paulbartell8872
    @paulbartell8872 4 года назад +1

    Last one,Rich..,before I bore everyone to death.. "Red House-Variations On a Theme" is a great example of Jimi's improv skills on that tune(if you can still get it..)

  • @guitarmeetsscience
    @guitarmeetsscience 4 года назад

    You make everything look so darn easy! Glad to see somebody who takes the time to explain things in such detail. Excellent lesson - subscribed! Cheers!

    • @RichardsGuitarshop
      @RichardsGuitarshop  4 года назад +1

      Thank you SO much. I really have enjoyed coming back to the education side after 2 decades away! lol I have always enjoyed blues so its nice to try and help others get to grips with it too!

    • @guitarmeetsscience
      @guitarmeetsscience 4 года назад

      @@RichardsGuitarshop That's fantastic man! Welcome back - we can use your skills my friend!

  • @Prayudi__A
    @Prayudi__A 4 года назад

    Another lesson, finally! Just right on time! Thanks, Richards!

  • @fluxryder
    @fluxryder 4 года назад

    Hi Richard, I have watched many many videos over the years about this trying to understand why I can't make it "work" but this contained some interesting information that no one else had explained, so thank you! (Am glad I bought a guitar from you as it made me follow these lessons!)

    • @RichardsGuitarshop
      @RichardsGuitarshop  4 года назад

      Fantastic! I am SO SO happy to hear this. You have made my day.

  • @KiLLeRNaSTYY
    @KiLLeRNaSTYY 4 года назад +1

    Yes! Thanks Richard! The wait has paid off ;)

  • @rowbags3017
    @rowbags3017 4 года назад +1

    Nice one Richard!
    It's great to have a new tutorial from you, because you have the gift of presenting challenging concepts in a fun and encouraging way.
    This really ties stuff from your previous lessons together nicely and takes things a step further. The timing is also perfect for me, because I was actually puzzling over a chord inversion sequence I stumbled across last night where I was playing major chords with I'd have instinctively thought was a "minor" shape.
    So - it's clearly time to compare what I'm doing against your explanations and scale diagrams - because the answer is undoubtedly in there! ;)
    I love the way your lessons have both expanded my horizons and have allowed me to begin to make sense of what I've been doing by ear all these years.
    Keep 'em coming! Take care and stay safe.
    Rowan

    • @RichardsGuitarshop
      @RichardsGuitarshop  4 года назад

      Thank you so much. That means a lot to me. So glad you liked it

    • @rowbags3017
      @rowbags3017 4 года назад

      @@RichardsGuitarshop Cheers Richard - I had a great "run-in" back in the '80s during a session with a producer who'd played on a string of hits a few years before (I'll name no names ;) ) - but he basically trashed a part I'd worked out for one of my tracks and said "That can't work - it's in the wrong key". I replied "It DOES work - just listen to it..." but, of course, I had no musical theory to back that claim up with. All these years later... it still works to my ears! LOL! And, thanks to your theory classes, I might finally be able to figure out the theory to back up what I did instinctively. It's a bit late to go back and argue the point(!), but it'd just be neat to be able to nail down what sounded "right" to me and clearly "wrong" to my producer. The final recording sounded fine - but, without the disputed guitar part, it lacked the edge (to my ears) that took one section to a different "place". That's what's so great about your classes, because they open doors and encourage us to explore in steps that don't take us out too far of our depth from your previous lessons.

  • @cussy77
    @cussy77 4 года назад +1

    Brilliant lesson Rich so much fantastic information loved it

  • @joejoe41madmad
    @joejoe41madmad Год назад

    I wish you would have tabs to follow along. It’s still very good Richard. Thank you

  • @RobertLandrum13
    @RobertLandrum13 4 года назад +1

    Hey man, are we gonna get the understanding blues V chord video? Those videos helped so much and I'd love to have the finale of those.

    • @RichardsGuitarshop
      @RichardsGuitarshop  4 года назад +3

      HI. The V chord will have its moment but I want all the lessons to be in priority in terms of value building block wise. The videos I have done so far are all definitely far more important and I also want to make sure I have put the same thought and care into it - and its not a quick video! I am running a business and its stupidly busy all the time so I need to balance what value I believe you will get against the time to produce it etc.... yep... these are all excuses!! lol I promise everything will tie together - I also need to get the V chord in the key done (which ties in with the blues) and then the VI chord - this will essentially have the chords in the key completed from that series. Anyway.... Thank you for the feedback and I promise whatever I put live is from the heart - and hopefully very useful in some way!

  • @bidikei7854
    @bidikei7854 Год назад

    I think blues is the most sustainable genre to play because the improvisation is very easy and we can play based on emotions so I’m switching to blues for life.

  • @gonzaperez16
    @gonzaperez16 4 года назад

    Thanks so much for this, opened my mind. Time to practice now.

  • @niguel4438
    @niguel4438 4 года назад

    Inspiring. Makes me want to practice. Thanks Richard.

  • @RichardOfYork1967
    @RichardOfYork1967 4 года назад +1

    Brilliant Richard, thanks 😊

  • @davidorgill6629
    @davidorgill6629 4 года назад

    Received my Eastman ac422ce lefty from Richards guitars last week after a long long wait ( I knew it would take months and covid virus made the wait longer )
    Worth waiting for !!! Guitar was nicely set up ( good guitar tech ) looks stunning, sounds fantastic, plays/feels well
    Many thanks Rich

  • @louiscoronado2587
    @louiscoronado2587 4 года назад

    best instructional video I've come across

  • @markphillips573
    @markphillips573 4 года назад +1

    I think I must just be a bit slow Richard... I play guitar okay to a certain level and getting on for fifty years now... but there is stuff that maybe I do already but seeing it described in numbers is making me start to worry that I don't know it properly, or correctly perhaps?

  • @johnconoscenti102
    @johnconoscenti102 4 года назад +2

    Hi, John here from USA---Connecticut.....Terrific, would like to someway download to a pdf so I can print it out to review at my pace,,,,but love what you are doing.

  • @edwardmcguigan1442
    @edwardmcguigan1442 4 года назад

    Superb Bro keep them coming

  • @PeteAxeShields
    @PeteAxeShields 4 года назад

    Excellent Richard x

  • @LukinykhDA
    @LukinykhDA 3 года назад

    I was wondering if you gonna make more tutoring videos like this. They are very helpful. I’m checking your page at least twice a week; you keep making new videos, but unfortunately they’re not tutorials.

    • @RichardsGuitarshop
      @RichardsGuitarshop  3 года назад

      Hi. Its been a crazy crazy year - and I have had to make SO many changes and developed so many areas of my business due to the lockdown - We have in fact been off the scale busy - since March - as so many people have been stuck home and picking their guitars back up - which is amazing! Its so incredibly time consuming doing the videos - as you will know I dont make money out of tuition these days - the lessons are very much to give something back to customers who have made a purchase or thinking about buying a guitar etc. I promise you faithfully more tuition is coming!!!! I need to find ways to bring it to you that take less time - maybe SNIPPETS - Quick super helpful bits of advice that I could do a couple of times a week would be perfect! Always trying my best!

    • @LukinykhDA
      @LukinykhDA 3 года назад

      @@RichardsGuitarshop you can make an account for donations. And just mention it in your next tuition videos. Send me the account number and I will donate what I can.
      I have also seen that you have this platform on some other website that you have advertised that encourages people to subscribe, however I really don’t like subscription services. I’m sure if you had an account for donations, me and many other people would help you out.
      Your tuition videos are amazing, and I have never been so confident with my guitar. I have started to hear music and I’m playing/improvising so much better now then ever. There are plenty beginner videos out there, and they are great, but it I’m not a beginner. I played for so many years, and I can play good, but watching your videos made me understand how much I was missing, and it was sooo much! I’m very thankful for what you do, because there is no one else who make half hour videos with nothing but substantial content.

  • @gwynsea8162
    @gwynsea8162 3 года назад +1

    So this series covered I and IV chord... but was there anything interesting then about V chord? More importantly I am left wondering how do I use minor and major pentatonic over all 3 chords... I shall have to go and work it out but... Part V and Part VI??? :)

  • @mairinger80
    @mairinger80 4 года назад +1

    Great video, this was very helpful! In regards to mixing minor and major pentatonics, is there a good rule of thumb when to use what? I remember something like bringing in major just before chord changes... or are there distinctive styles in these choices, like bb vs clapton, etc? Thank you!

  • @kazzendo4027
    @kazzendo4027 3 года назад

    Just watched the four part blues videos. Great lessens! As many here are saying, you have very effective and relevant way of explaining relationships of chords and scales with respect to intervals.
    Here's a question regarding 2nd and m3 over the same dominant 7th chord. I understood the reason why choking the m3 to M3 resolves nicely. But I'm confused as to why 2nd choked up to m3 "sounds nice" when playing major pentatonic over dominant 7th chord. What am I missing?

  • @walterfossati6571
    @walterfossati6571 Год назад

    Gracias

  • @paulbartell8872
    @paulbartell8872 4 года назад

    Hi Richard. Great post again-keep up the good work!! Have you read/own the book "Zen Guitar" ? If not, I think you'd really enjoy it. That's all! take care. :)

  • @paulbartell8872
    @paulbartell8872 4 года назад

    p.s. Jimi melded major with minor phrases/licks seamlessly(amongst many other things...:O ),when he played blues things. A good study..

  • @miketransporter5638
    @miketransporter5638 Месяц назад

    Ok wheres part 3 intoducing the 5 chord?

  • @AudioPeople
    @AudioPeople 4 года назад

    I'm not good in explaining, but A Major pentatonic scales = F# minor pentatonic scales. So this video goes like combining between A minor pentatonic scales and F# minor pentatonic scales (A Major pentatonic)

  • @4444Byrd
    @4444Byrd Год назад

    What to do with the 6th? Bend up to the dominant 7?

  • @stringman509
    @stringman509 2 года назад

    If your playing A on fret 5 I thought you went down 3 frets for major ?

  • @gwynsea8162
    @gwynsea8162 3 года назад

    Hi RIchard (again). So, just been playing around.. If we are playing in A, so I, IV, V of A7, D7, E7... should I really be able to play over each chord? So playing A minor pentatonic over A7 and then playing D minor pentatonic (10th fret) over D and then Em pentatonic (12th fret) over E? Or essentially major OR minor pentatonic over each? Because I try that and it doesn't work... So because it's in the key of A do I need to stay in A major/minor pentatonic the whole time and just try and use the appropriate notes that match the intervals of the I, IV, V chords? I remember Brian May once describing some of his solos as "playing across the chords" which I rather took to mean that he was possibly using the scale appropriate to the chord being played as opposed to the key in use. This is a real confusion point to me and I'd really like to understand it better if you could possibly help :)

    • @RichardsGuitarshop
      @RichardsGuitarshop  3 года назад +1

      Hi. No. You need to watch the video again. You need to be aware of the chord changes and use them as sweet spots / interesting landing pads or passing tones whilst maintaining your original a minor pentatonic as the core. You don’t ever follow the chords with the minor pentatonic and I didn’t say to in the video. So in a - you don’t play d minor and e minor pentatonic against the iv and v chords ... nooooo .

    • @RichardsGuitarshop
      @RichardsGuitarshop  3 года назад

      I think your understanding of music theory is still a little blurred. Have you watched the videos I did after this ? During lockdown I did these videos. So the one you are watching is a blues video but I also did a series of introductory guitar theory videos all about the chord scale relationships - building a scale and the chords from jt. I believe that would really help. Although blues to move away from the basic theory and have its own core rules the understanding of chord / scale relationships will I believe help you a lot

    • @gwynsea8162
      @gwynsea8162 3 года назад

      @@RichardsGuitarshop I'm working my was through them... On your III chord... so... what we find there is that the third chord of C is Em... so we can play the C scale (starting on the E root) but then also we can play the Em pentatonic too! So in that instance yes you can play the minor pentatonic of the chord? Do you have time / fancy organising a Zoom lesson perhaps? I could go through this with you. Name your price :)

    • @RichardsGuitarshop
      @RichardsGuitarshop  3 года назад

      @@gwynsea8162 Hi. I really dont have the time for private lessons - I am SO sorry. However I can answer for you. 100% correct. DIATONIC harmony allows you to play an E minor pentatonic around the III chord of the key. So you can play e to e within the key of c (So E Phrygian) and every minor scale has a minor pentatonic - so yes you can play Em pentatonic. However - this is DIATONIC harmony. NOT Blues. So when you play the blues if you try and copy these rules you will lose the "feel" of blues.

    • @gwynsea8162
      @gwynsea8162 3 года назад +1

      @@RichardsGuitarshop Thanks Richard. Understand. And thanks for making these vids in the first place

  • @stratslinger3921
    @stratslinger3921 3 года назад

    Where’s part 3 please?

  • @RustyFarrell
    @RustyFarrell 4 года назад

    What Vintage model are you playing?

  • @brianrocks7277
    @brianrocks7277 4 года назад +1

    Where is Richard?

    • @brianrocks7277
      @brianrocks7277 4 года назад

      I hope Richard is well, unlike him to go missing.

    • @brianrocks7277
      @brianrocks7277 4 года назад +1

      @@Catteries
      Sorry to hear of your plight mate. Clearly Richard has a number of issues , he says so himself, but if you feel cheated you are right to withdraw your support.

  • @seansweeney7643
    @seansweeney7643 4 года назад

    You've lost me, I want that guitar colour and a lefty?.

  • @LM-lv1hh
    @LM-lv1hh 4 года назад

    I like practicing going from the pentatonic scale to the dominant 7 chord(scale,root,maj3,5,7b) without just adding the major 3 to the minor pentatonic. Over the 4 chord I focus on the dominant 7 4 chord and i dont think of the notes as related to the 1 chord or key but I can use the minor blues pentatonic scale over all 1 4 and 5 chords. I like to represent each chord a little then use the blues pentatonic scales over each chord. Your going to get bored and monotonous if you only use pentatonic without adding something else eventually in my opinion but good to practice at first.

    • @RichardsGuitarshop
      @RichardsGuitarshop  4 года назад

      Hi. You may find the Part I of my series on blues interesting as it covers the movement of I to IV chord/

  • @louloucooke1
    @louloucooke1 7 месяцев назад

    Hi Richard I like the way you explain things but I have to say, the loop pedal is driving me to distraction. It is VERY irritating and doesn’t do anything to enhance the learning. It’s soooo noisey. Sorry, I know you did this 3 years ago so don’t know if you still incorporate it. Would be better without it!