Everything GREAT About Planet of the Apes! (2001)
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2024
- PotA! The good one! The Tim Burton one! I know you all agree, this isn't clickbait at all. Cue 100 comments talking about the makeup! Here's everything right with Planet of the Apes 2001!
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For all of the problems with this movie, I adore two things. One, the ape makeup is some of the most realistic and stylized I've ever seen in a feature film, and two, the costumes are very intricate and detailed. Both together make some talented practical effects.
The ape makeup is simply top-tier. Yeah, CGI and motion capture for apes in the modern trilogy is impressive and all, but the practical effects here really does stand the test of time.
The ape makeup is not only the best ever in a Planet of the Apes movie, it’s the best I’ve ever seen in any movie. This alone made me come back to this film, and over time I’ve come to like it. It’s only really let down by Marky Mark and the other bland human characters. All of the apes are amazing in my opinion, especially Tim Roth who should have won an Oscar.
@@ultimamage3 I can get them going for the CGI mo-cap early on in the reboot films with Rise, where they wanted to show how they started out as regular apes that had their intelligence increased through a drug, but I still have my expectations that these newer apes are going to have to evolve into being a lot closer to the ones in this film at some point. Because this depiction of the apes along with the original film series are still what I immediately think of when I think "Planet of the Apes".
What’s the problem with this movie? I thought it was excellent!
@@kalvin187douglas That's great. I personally don't connect with the worldbuilding or the ending twist.
"I'd rather watch a movie that fails big than a movie that bores me by taking no chances." That is spot on.
Exactly, despite it's flaws at least it ain't a shot for shot remake of the 1968 film it does it's own thing with the story and special effects.
"I'd rather watch a movie that fails big than a movie that fails me by taking no chances."
Hey, Hollywood? Listen to this insightful individual!
That’s a great quote to live by .
The flash is a good recent example it failed big and took some big swings.
@@wakandaforever616 The Flash probably would have been received better if they axed Ezra Miller
@mattnar3865 they were never gonna do that. He was their white horse. They were gonna ride him until the movie came out. So the outcry was for nothing They were ready to take that hit
@wakandaforever616 what about the superhero fatigue I think most people are tried of them they made so many of them their a reason barbie and Oppenheimer got so big
The twist of the original movie was not in the original novel. Instead, the main character flew back to earth, only to discover that the monkeys had taken over earth too. So technically this twist is pretty accurate to the novel.
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When I first watched it, I thought something had happened in the further past that led to a whole new timeline of Apes Taking Over Planet. I guess I was too beholden to the “Apreham Lincoln” twist I thought that it MUST mean the real Lincoln never happened, instead of “merely” the Apes replacing the memorial with one of their own heroes. 😅❤
The further twist is the framing device that novel is a story being read by Apes who dismiss the idea of talking humans as far too implausible!
I loved that twist I knew it would happen but it was still incredible
Thade's distinctive grin is creepier when you know that chimps use grins as a threat.
I actually rather like this movie. The ape society was interesting, alien yet familiar, and overall the film hews closer to the satire of the original novel. It's not my favorite Planet of the Apes movie, and the reboot prequels absolutely blow it away, but it's an enjoyable enough movie.
It might be 23 years old by now, but damn if it still has some impressive makeup and practical set design 😊
I see comments like this that I agree with but also make me feel old.
. . . and doesn't Marky Mark look *_young?_* I'd almost forgotten he used to be that pretty.
We have to appreciate how the visual design of this movie is TOP TIER for visual callbacks from the origin of the apes vs humans situation
The apes' helmets look like the pod's rear end, the humans' branding iron is a representation of the Oberon's silouette among others.
How the heck did I not notice that?! That’s so cool! 😀
While this may not be my favorite adaptation of the Planet of the Apes series, it holds a special place in my heart for the reason that it introduced me to the series as a whole.
Same, it introduced me to the franchise as well.
Same
I completely forgot this movie existed until 20 minutes ago, what a nostalgia trip! Now I'm craving more movies from around the 2000s because that was a great era IMO
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Actually its based on the novel's ending. Ulysse (book Taylor) lands in paris in his pod, gets out and is apprehended by a policeman. Last words of the penultimate chapter: "He is a gorilla."
I absolutely adore the reboot trilogy (AKA the Caesar Cycle). I don't think it gets enough love, so I'm excited to hear you give it the love it deserves.
I think the one thing I've always loved about this movie, is Thade. He's such a goofy ass villain, and Tim Roth just seems like he's loving every second of that goofy ass role
I’m so happy to see this on CinemaWins because I grew up with both the original films as well as this remake just in time to watch and absolutely love the new prequel trilogy, which are some of my favorite films of all time. Thank you for winning a childhood favorite of mine🙏
Fun Fact:
Danny Elfman and Rick Baker, who
did the music and the ape makeup
respectively in *"POTA 2001"* were
originally hired to do the same jobs in
*"Return to The Planet of The Apes",*
a planned but cancelled 1988 film by Adam Rifkin, which was to be a direct sequel to the original 1968 film and ignoring the sequels from 1970-1973.
I was a huge cinephile before this movie came out. Was a little kid watching the 1970’s Planet of the Apes movies on TV. 1999 was THE year for movies. This movie tanked with viewers who did not appreciate Burton’s vision. He made a good movie with great actors and a spectacular FX team. There is no reason for this movie to have tanked. It is all the camp and respect to the 70’s makeup effects, which were awesome for the time. This is a very good movie. And one of the last to be shot with so many physical effects.
Week 164 of asking for Everything Great About Dead Man's Chest.
If that happens, I'm gonna stop watching this channel, because fuck Johnny Depp and his wife beating ass.
If that happens, I'll unsubscribe from this channel, because fuck Johnny Depp and his abusive ass.
ill second that. And At World's End. The Pirates Trilogy is so fucking good
Real
He’s probably waiting for the new pirates movie to come out first
19:28 I don't recognize either still frame, so here's a list of suggestions to consider for future EGA videos:
-King Kong (2005 Film)
-Disney's Hercules
-James & the Giant Peach
-Monsters Inc.
-Crazy, Rich Asians
-Ice Age
-Night at the Museum
-Mr. Peabody & Sherman
-The Lost World: Jurassic Park
-Star Wars: Clone Wars (2008 Film)
I think the one on the right was the newest Mission Impossible and the only guess I have for the left is The Flash
James and the giant peach is a good shout
The. Ending of this version is closer to the ending in the original source book. It wouldn’t hurt to reference that in your critique, I hate how this version is slammed for the ending.
But what works on paper doesn't always work in practice. Tim Roth said he couldn't explain the meaning of the ending, nor the logic of it for example. As Burton had no interest in doing a sequel, it seems to have been there more for 'a starting point' if someone else took it over.
Also I don't think the the world seen at the end is ours conquered by the Thade we just saw, somehow getting to Earth and getting there before Wahlberg's character. I think it's an alternate realty, a parallel universe.
Although I instinctively agree, if we go by the "reverse order" thing, it's possible that Thade arrived earlier even if he left much later... But that is certainly all fanciful speculation for a likely nonsensical twist ending.
It really is a WTF twist but... if the Oberon is the 'genesis' of the population, many years/generations must have past before Leo arrived. Hence, when Thade followed him, many generations also past on earth before Leo arrives there.
It's always fun when you go back to your roots of highlighting the good points of maligned movies.
Please do the whole prequal trilogy. I swear they are criminally underated and forgotton about for some reason. IMO they are easily one of the best trilogies of all time. Plus Andy Circus is always a win!
And with the new film coming out, it's the perfect time.
These apes scared the hell out of me when I was younger
The ape mannerisms, specifically by species, in this movie is astounding.
The gorillas have the greatest physical strength but mostly use it for show, whereas chimpanzees are apeshit bonkers and aggressive.
And also worth pointing out how captive apes have developed sorta crushes on humans.
Thanks! I still have those suggestions. I understand you'll be busy with those Planet of the Apes videos, and possibly Oppenheimer, still I would love to see those other videos come. But just take your time with it. You make my day everytime you release a video.
1. The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997)
2. Jurassic Park III (2001)
3. Shrek (2001)
4. Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)
5. Back to the Future (1985) or next year for its 40th annivetrsary if you want...
6. Blade Runner (1982)
7. Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald (2018)
8. Jumanji (1995)
19:24 Let me guess... is next week some Predator movie or Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part 1 (2023)? DANG!!!
I'm still waiting for Twister, especially since Twisters is coming out this summer.
DISTRICT 9
Legend of the Guardians, The Owls of Ga'Hoole DESPERATELY needs its own Cinemawins video!
The Adventure of Tintin (2011) deserves one!
Ever though of doing videos for the Riddick movies? They're all stupid fun, and the first two are old enough that doing a video on them would introduce plenty of new people to them.
Agreed, more silly Riddick action love please
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You good buddy? Said that with a bit of conviction.
I'm glad it never got a sequel, it makes the ending all the better. Some things are best left unknown.
I still wish this movie got a sequel
I know people hate the ending, but I love it that shot of Wahlberg being surrounded by police apes is badass and the helicopters coming towards him.
The next CinemaWins video will be either The Meg 2: The Trench, or Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning: Part 1.
Thank you, i didnt havent seen either and like to watch the movies before i watch the videos
the one of the left is meg 2 for sure ive not seen MI:DR so i couldnt tell
There's no way this man added the "WOULD" reaction image to the ape kissing scene 🤣
I would have when I first saw it two decades ago and I would still 😘
If it passes the Jack Harkness test...
I couldn't help but imagine Krull saying "Flawless Victory".
Despite not liking this Wahlberg I always liked this movie. It is Planet of the Apes, and the apes in there are awesome.
HOW come this movie never got an Oscar nomination for Best Makeup? The makeup in this is amazing!
What i love about this one over the originals is how legit ape like the apes are here.
In the originals, the apes are basically just weird looking humans, in this version, theyre legit still ape like, they have the agility and mannerisms of apes.
I love the makeup, and the armor in this movie. The design of the Ape armor is so cool yet so creepy.
Has no one read the book? Burton was faithful to the author's original ending that could have implied a multiverse .
This was such a great movie when I first saw it when I was a kid. You should try young Frankenstein.
I honestly don’t hate this movie. The makeup is incredible and Thade’s a cool villain.
Thade was always my favourite thing about this movie, I love the make-up, costumes and Danny Elfman music but Roth was great as the villain.
Fun fact: apparently Tim Roth is really passionate about gun control, so much so that he stated that had he known he was going to have to do a scene with Charlton Heston he would have turned down the role. As it was he apparently only interacted with Heston during their scene and not outside of it
Well, ironically the end of his character is kinda funny because he had a gun but still impotent.
I don’t get it. Why would he have turned down the role if he had known Heston was going to be in the movie? Was it cause Heston was about Gun Ownership or something?
Planet of the apes is what whistler dreamed while inside the tank.
8:20 Charlton Heston’s cameo is AMAZING!
All i know about this movie is Paul Giamatti loved doing it
While I'm not the biggest fan of this Movie, as a fan of the Franchise I'm so happy you covered it. Kinda wish you did the Original, and More old Movies in general. A lot of classics out there. OG PoTA is one of the best in my Opinion .
The reason I watch these is I learn something new. Watching this when I was a kid, the time stuff flew over my head. Now, it makes the film and my watching a lot better.
i forgot how good this movie is so many cool practical effects and great atmosphere ps. i never thought that statue at the end was thade i thought it was just how they chose to show he was thades descendant
Finally! I always loved this take on the premise and I’m happy someone else took the time to point it out. ❤
14:49 Did you just... do a "would" meme?
Wasn't expecting that.
Was not expecting that...
Similar to 'Superman Returns', the development of this film and all the directions it could have taken are very interesting to read. I was expecting if the 'Apes' franchise was to be revived after this film for it to be another take on the 1968 film so the 'Ceaser' trilogy was a very nice surprise.
Why does Helena Bonham Carter always have SO MUCH FRIGGIN CHARISMA in EVERY movie she's in, DESPITE being in full makeup and wardrobe????
God I have such a huge crush.
This is way better than modern CGI
8:18 that is such a deep-cut specific Star Trek reference and I love it. I mean ik it sounds obvious to any ST viewers but im pretty sure most non-Trekkie ppl dunno who leah brahms is.
So I started watching this video not having seen the movie but quickly decided to stop and go watch it really glad I did.
My dad was an Extra in this film! He brought home a "rock" he used to brain a human, a torch from the night march scene, and an ape helmet!
Hey dude love your reviews
11:46 Damn been ages since Ive seen this movie but uh yeah that's a genuinely good scene and a nice bit of character from Krull.
Krull was my favorite!
Please, I BEG of you!
Finally make "Everything Great About Legend of the Guardians, the Owls of Ga'hoole!"
At least we know the channel doesn’t shy away from Zack Snyder so there’s hope.
i actually loved this movie and still do
the makeup and effects and even the ape society the legend of cemos was all really cool
Probably not taking suggestions, but I do have a query. Why has this channel never covered Gladiator?
Universally I’m sure everyone agrees it’s one of the all time greats, but I bet it would make for one hell of a video.
Maybe the sequel coming out at the end of the year would be the perfect time to do it.
Please do Everything Great About Batman (1989), Everything Great About Batman Returns and Everything Great About Batman Forever!
I appreciate all of your Star Trek references you keep throwing into your videos.
Another EGA video, another film I haven't technically seen as a film, only as an NC "review". Should probably get to watching the first film and the reboot/remake series.
Once again, an interesting and fun video! Keep up the great work and take care!
Preferring when movies take big swings and miss rather than taking no risks at all and boring me is literally my justification for why I enjoy most movies that are generally hated by modern audiences and people almost always respond, “why do you like bad movies?” 😅
The one thing I would admit I would love to see after seeing how great the ape make-up FX, is how would Andy Serkis would look like as Caesar but with practical make-up and with the war paint of "Dawn of the Planet of the Apes". That would look wicked cool.
I would love to see you do Iron Giant, if that's possible. My absolute favourite film, I watched it nonstop as a kid and to this day it still makes me cry.
10:00, I would give up on coming back home, not for Ari, no, I mean, all for my fellow humans, sure.
EGA WolfWalkers, Power Rangers 2017, E.T. The Extra-terrestrial, and RRR!
Does anyone else immediately try reverse image searching the next week teases to try and figure out what they are?
It's easy. You just a screenshot of it, crop it, and google image search it. It almost always works.
Is this movie good? No. Is it so bad and over-the-top that I watched the whole thing through in utter disbelief? Yes, and honestly, that's about as good. As Roger Ebert said...
"I ask two things of a movie: that it be good, and that it not bore me. This movie (Barb Wire) wasn't good, but wasn't bored."
18:41 No. Not true. Nope. Not listening. Nope. Nuh uh. Nah. Nooooooo. 😂
Firstly, I straight up LOVE this movie, and honestly don't understand what people didn't like about it? Maybe there's some problems that I just didn't see, but I'm gonna ignore them and continue loving this. Love this video too.
Secondly, I can't wait for you to cover the others as Kingdoms comes out, I love them as well and actually lost track of Kingdom's production a couple years ago and didn't realize they finally made it. I was in the theater to watch Godzilla Minus One when the first trailer hit and they showed the ape and I kinda freaked out when I realized that was what the trailer was for.
Thirdly, I would really like to see a video on the old Bill Murray Garfield movie, as the new one is coming up as well. I grew up with it and recently went back for a research with a more critical eye, and I think it still holds up (It's definitely influenced my thinking to where no one else but Bill Murray or a very similar voice can believably be Garfield for me). Maybe even Tail of Two Kitties? But while I still enjoy that one, I do have to admit it is kind of weak.
This was one of those movies that I just didn't like-but what stands strong is *really* good.
Like those practical effects and costumes are just INCREDIBLE
great video
EGA An American Tail*
EGA Balto
EGA Bolt
EGA Cats Don't Dance
EGA Despicable Me*
EGA Hotel Transylvania*
EGA Ice Age*
EGA Over the Hedge
EGA PAW Patrol: The Movie
EGA PAW Patrol: The Mighty Movie
EGA Ratchet & Clank
EGA Robots
EGA Shark Tale
EGA Sing 2
EGA Space Jam
EGA Star Wars: The Clone Wars
EGA Thunderbirds
EGA Tom & Jerry: The Movie (1993)
EGA Trolls: World Tour
EGA Trolls: Band Together
(*And videos for the sequels)
Star Wars: Clone Wars 03
Your time chronology makes sense, however it doesn't account for how Pericles was able to be the messianic figure of the Ape culture, unless I'm remembering it wrong and Semos was just a generic Ape god that the Apes mistook Pericles for when he landed. If that's the case, then who was Semos?
What part about the Oberon going through the time portal made the Apes rebel, and which one among them was Semos? How did they suddenly learn to talk? Maybe I need to rewatch this movie.
Always loved it👍👍
If I can appreciate anything in this movie, it's the rounded silver early 2000s sci-fi aesthetic in the production design.
Thanks for this! 🦧
I always liked the idea that the apes brand the humans and the symbol is the shape of the Oberon space station, reminds me of how the apes would have that symbol of Caesar pass through the generations of apes.
14:49 I agree, CinemaWins guy, "would" too
Can you do one for Klaus?!?! Netflix Christmas movie it's gorgeous!
If he does, he probably won’t do until December
Klaus is incredible!!❤
Episode 133 of asking for Princess Bride!
It'd be like, three parts.
@@ninjabluefyre3815 You say that like it's a bad thing! :P
Marky Mark and the Furry Bunch
Da king is back baby he neva miss
Never did understand all the hate for this movie, and my first experience with the franchise was the original run when I was growing up in the 80s and they had weekend sci-fi features on tv. (Beneath was pretty out there, not gonna lie haha)
It hit all the right beats for a PotA installment and the subversive callbacks were 'Leo pointing at the screen' memeworthy before the meme was a twinkle in its creator's eye. They were done with a knowing wink, but also in a way that showed love for the original movies. Even the ending, we knew there was going to be a twist, it's in the DNA of the series, but actually seeing it for the first time and how it played out was incredibly fun in the theater, the whole 'wow~ they actually went there...' experience.
$68 million in its opening weekend, the second highest EVER at the time, and $362 million against a $100 million budget shows it at least managed to generate some good attention too, not to mention a few award nominations at the BAFTAs for the incredible costume work and the ever-spectacular Elfman's score at the Grammys.
I think if they had done a sequel, they probably would have had it in an alternate universe kind of situation.
Pretty sure the one on the right of the potential "next week" videos is MI: DR Pt1, but no clue on the left one.....
Finally! 😂 Now please do the planet of ape trilogy with Andy Serkis! It's the best and it will be perfect since the new sequel is coming out soon.
Ironically, famous film critic Roger Ebert actually liked the Twilight Zone-esque twist, he mostly complained the story was badly structured and tonally all over the place:
"It's an action picture and a satire of an action picture. It's a comedy and then it gets serious. It's a social satire and then backs away from pushing that angle too far. It even has a weird intra-species romantic triangle in it. And it has a surprise ending that I loved, even though Matt Drudge spoiled it last weekend with a breathless "scoop." The movie could have been more. It could have been a parable of men and animals, as daring as "Animal Farm." It could have dealt in social commentary with a sting, and satire that hurt. It could have supported, or attacked, the animal rights movement. It could have dealt with the intriguing question of whether a man and a gorilla having sex is open-mindedness, or bestiality (and, if bestiality, in both directions?). It could have, but it doesn't. It's a cautious movie, earning every letter and numeral of its PG-13 rating. Intellectually, it's science fiction for junior high school boys. [...] Burton's work can show a wild and crazed imagination, but here he seems reined in. He's made a film that's respectful to the original, and respectable in itself, but that's not enough. Ten years from now, it will be the 1968 version that people are still renting."
Which is sad, there's a lot that's commendable about this film. Might be on the lower end compared to the 2010s trilogy and the OG film, but there's still a lot here that can be enjoyed by people, of which I am likely one. Besides, it at least allowed Planet of the Apes to remain relevant after over two decades of hiatus from the franchise. If this film didn't happen, maybe we wouldn't have ever gotten Caesar's story.
I Suspect you should Win 'Shrek 2" anytime soon. It's one of DreamWorks' best sequels ever made.
Win, not Sin!
Just saw this version of planet of the apes for the first time. Never saw the older ones just the newer 3. This is the best one I’ve seen so far. I hope they make a number 2 with mark wahlberg in this storyline
Day one of asking for everything great about Rio
I love you, Dr. Zaius
5:51 Showing teeth to a chimp is a sign of a fight gonna start, that's why she reacted that way
We've got a new Ghostbusters movie on the way, so it's past time to get started on the series.
Can you look at everything good about the Animated Movie Unicorn Wars🐻🏹🦄
Epic make up work for sure.
Please do Everything Great About Wish
I remember seeing this in the theatre as a kid and loving it while I was watching it, then discussing it with my Mom on the car ride home and realizing it didn't make much sense and I actually didn't like it at all by the time we got there. I didn't have the words for it at the time, but I now cite this movie as my first experience with "critical analysis". And that was when my childhood ended...😅
Personally, i don't think this movie gets enough credit. The mannerisms for highly intelligent apes are so good.