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  • Опубликовано: 24 мар 2024
  • Today's video is me discussing the multiple problems and issues with lore in the #roblox game #deeepwoken and why the lore is dumb. Some lore issues can prevent the best build in deepwoken for pve or the best pvp build in deepwoken because certain weapons are nerfed without lore relevance. Make sure to #subscribe to support me.
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  • @Reaconteur
    @Reaconteur  3 месяца назад +15

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    • @LeafBlade3436
      @LeafBlade3436 3 месяца назад +1

      Silenhearth u deny WORDS of the song, not the song itself, those words being mantras

    • @KoolManX-vr5ii
      @KoolManX-vr5ii 3 месяца назад

      Yo btw check Kennith lore on the wiki the satire video is cannon

  • @hexagowe3415
    @hexagowe3415 3 месяца назад +386

    main problem is that it rarely ties into gameplay

    • @kilopopki4947
      @kilopopki4947 3 месяца назад +13

      Really doesnt need to. Many games have the same “problem”

    • @cool_knight
      @cool_knight 3 месяца назад +23

      @hexagowe3415
      If you want a game with a heavy lore tie in play arcane odyssey it’s getting a big update on this friday

    • @GodspokenYT
      @GodspokenYT 3 месяца назад +6

      Lore doesn’t need to tie into gameplay tho

    • @tenosixx
      @tenosixx 3 месяца назад +13

      the only reason why you can fight maestro is because the lore is moving forward so hopefully we see more of lore based content

    • @shadowflash7971
      @shadowflash7971 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@cool_knightfr? Cool, Thought it was dead

  • @CodenGlith
    @CodenGlith 3 месяца назад +99

    the fact that a random lumberjack in etris has so much influence that if you give him like 50 pieces of wood your now "the hero of etris"

    • @Reaconteur
      @Reaconteur  3 месяца назад +18

      real

    • @deathlord9329
      @deathlord9329 3 месяца назад +3

      Real LOL

    • @VERGILGASM
      @VERGILGASM 3 месяца назад +2

      Me asf

    • @celanvaril6200
      @celanvaril6200 2 месяца назад +1

      Bro wants a business start up tycoon in deepwoken

    • @aahhhhhhhhhhhhh
      @aahhhhhhhhhhhhh 6 дней назад

      Lmfao 😭 especially when you bought the wood from their own fucking stocks.

  • @averageanger7092
    @averageanger7092 3 месяца назад +39

    Silentheart DOESNT mean you deny the song. The name is confusing and I blame the devs for making it odd, but the it works is essentially that you deny the WORDS of the song. Mantras aren't called mantras for no reason, they are chants, lyrics.
    When you get silentheart you are told your heart is changed to the drumbeats of the world and of the song. You exchange magic, HUMAN abuse of the song, in exchange for the more primal drumbeats of the world. Bells and murmurs are not the words or lyrics, so they do not count.
    Mantras and songchant are highly refined versions of the song. Whatever silentheart uses is raw.
    Essentially, you go ape mode, Ted Kaczynski "The Cantaclysm and it's consequences have been a disaster for Lumen's races" mode, and you start sending pipe bombs into mantra trainers mailboxes.
    You don't deny the song, you use pre-cantaclysmic song, maybe. I think. Maybe Arch said something in the discord that disproves all of this or perhaps I'm delusional. I'm just going off of what I've seen in game. I will agree with you that the lore just seems everywhere and is not properly written into gameplay or even fucking item descriptions. The discord should not be an actual place to commonly refer to when it comes to finding out what's true in the lore. It's not "soulslike storytelling," it's random stuff splattered everywhere with no real direction.

  • @Machinewashere
    @Machinewashere 3 месяца назад +149

    Kenith is in layer 2 because of his resolve, your souls strength/weight is not dependent on physical strength, but also your mental strength, he resisted the mind veil lord regent placed on the city and even desired to reveal the truth of what's happening in the city. His determination and ability to resist the mind veil made his soul heavy enough to go to layer 2.
    Not everyone down there is a godslayer, the npc in the railway is probably down there due to their desire to study and learn everything about the kyrsans to the point their soul was deemed strong enough to end up down there.

    • @TheAquer773
      @TheAquer773 3 месяца назад +9

      He didnt resist it, arch mage just said the veil isnt perfect

    • @orangejuice8140
      @orangejuice8140 3 месяца назад +1

      ah, an inquisitive soul.

    • @myqaa2013
      @myqaa2013 3 месяца назад +5

      3 star weight kenith

    • @branislavstolic9180
      @branislavstolic9180 3 месяца назад +4

      nuh uh, clearly because he was in love with a kyrsgarde
      /j

  • @ligmagigma522
    @ligmagigma522 3 месяца назад +103

    Tbh the real lore is how the devs all have their own ideas of the lore

    • @Hereoneavailable
      @Hereoneavailable 3 месяца назад +8

      Fr like you telling me silent heart can use bell powerful power and all but you cant punch really hard with strongleft?

    • @SlightlySchizophrenic
      @SlightlySchizophrenic 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@Hereoneavailable ??? Thats just cuz it's different applications of the song

    • @ligmagigma522
      @ligmagigma522 3 месяца назад +11

      @@SlightlySchizophrenic🤓

    • @ARandomEliatrope
      @ARandomEliatrope 3 месяца назад +9

      ​@@SlightlySchizophrenic application of the song is such a dumb argument because its a cop out for literally anything

    • @aahhhhhhhhhhhhh
      @aahhhhhhhhhhhhh 6 дней назад

      ​​@@HereoneavailableYou can sorta explain that with the fact that even attunementless mantras are infused with ether by nature (they cost ether). Strong left is a ether infused punch, a regular non infused strong left would break your hands

  • @thekittenyawns9145
    @thekittenyawns9145 3 месяца назад +175

    I can explain one of the points you made.
    The alpha sharko tacet, an npc at hive when you speak to him states “the creatures here are evolving.”

    • @onishiranui
      @onishiranui 3 месяца назад +11

      vague

    • @melarier5389
      @melarier5389 3 месяца назад +51

      I actually find it quite amusing to se a monster using a murmur. It reminds me that the Song isn't exclusive to humanoids, even Monsters can evolve to use it.

    • @_crvn_
      @_crvn_ 3 месяца назад +15

      @@melarier5389 when owl with bell?

    • @thekittenyawns9145
      @thekittenyawns9145 3 месяца назад +4

      @@onishiranui the evolution of reservoir into tempo caused a evolution in monsters as well

    • @TijnHams
      @TijnHams 3 месяца назад +6

      It's actually just because the monsters of the deep already harness the song, that's how they exist and become corrupted. Megalodaunts are already able to do an ardour scream, so why shouldn't they be able to learn tacet aswell? It's even how they spawn in when not chewing on a body. Also, they don't use rhythm cause it's exclusive to layer 2 :P

  • @vekazu_is_great_guy
    @vekazu_is_great_guy 3 месяца назад +86

    I like to think that captain Orlando wipes him self every time he hears you wipe or sense you wipe so he could chill in fragments of self and look cool while waiting for you to ask him tell you the basics again just in case you forgot and then he just gets restore for being the GOAT of deep lore and telling about bugs that we've never seen before and that's why he gets all the restores

    • @fanta4life360
      @fanta4life360 3 месяца назад +28

      fragments is just a memory hes been in floor 2 since the tutorial

    • @nostovatia
      @nostovatia 3 месяца назад +4

      its Orlandeau.

    • @eeeeeeee7662
      @eeeeeeee7662 3 месяца назад

      Nicely enough, the captain in fragments is a memory of him, which is why we refer to him as just “the captain” in fragments

  • @uhmraven.
    @uhmraven. 3 месяца назад +53

    im glad somebody finally spoke about this,
    deepwoken devs neglect the lore and just bend it to fit whatever stuff they wanna add. it feels disregarded and not cared about and it feels really off knowing that they'll just add/contradict anything if it means they can make it work for what they want to add

    • @Sc5ch
      @Sc5ch 3 месяца назад +7

      The fact they said Water & Light won't be added and have kept that promise to this day disproves this. If I was a dev, I wouldn't spend time prioritizing lore when players really don't care. Think of the Diver Journals. Nobody actually reads them, they just get them for Deepshore Fossil. Also, even if they did add full Lore quests or whatever, nobody would do them, so it just ends up being something they occasionally add on the side whenever they feel like it. That's probably why it's so inconsistent sometimes. This isn't a story-based game like Arcane Odyssey. It's a Build-Making game.

    • @dolabola773
      @dolabola773 3 месяца назад +7

      @@Sc5ch alright but it's been 200 ingame years and the war between etris and the authority has not changed or progressed at all. makes you wonder why they even added lore in the 1st place

    • @gamer4lyfe480
      @gamer4lyfe480 3 месяца назад +1

      its not a story. its lore. your not gonna be fed sh like that cause its a game

  • @blue__9281
    @blue__9281 3 месяца назад +23

    I love it how Etris has katanas… and ignition union has iron man suits

    • @boon3772
      @boon3772 3 месяца назад +7

      Etris and authority: sword and magic
      Ignition union and the hive:From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.

    • @lolfoxmaster4870
      @lolfoxmaster4870 3 месяца назад

      @@boon3772And Etris was still somehow stronger. The old king of Etrea is one of the strongest NPCs in the entire game aside from the drowned gods.

  • @Vulture_King
    @Vulture_King 3 месяца назад +74

    1. I mean regular sharkos use ardour. It's presumably just an ability that they have that hasn't been expounded upon
    2. I always thought it was just agreed that the cause was ministry corruption, which is why it's no longer loyal to the hive
    3. It's exactly that. You ignore the lyrics of the song aka mantras (speaking magic) so enchants and resonances work. It's not about the difficulty but the classification. It's not different notes but a whole other part of the song
    4. The starkindred trainer outright says that the celestial was taken from the rotlands below
    5. Regent does literally control the depths since he's a prophet so it's not all that far fetched
    6. Enibras I think
    7. Yeah they're all physical places. This is expanded on in the thresher claw item lore of all things where it explains that the boundary between layer 1 and the surface is extremely dangerous which is why power 20s can't just swim down

    • @MatiasIglesiasIglesias
      @MatiasIglesiasIglesias 3 месяца назад +3

      Correct

    • @deli8878
      @deli8878 3 месяца назад +8

      for 7 that seems like made in abyss type descending

    • @halelolel
      @halelolel 3 месяца назад +1

      Number 7 is also mentioned in the oscillation book where they explain the piece

    • @rowen9523
      @rowen9523 3 месяца назад

      But deepbounds can just swim down? Make it make sense

    • @trace1506
      @trace1506 3 месяца назад

      @@rowen9523 I mean in fairness their whole thing is that they made a deal with the depths itself (Somehow) that allows them to swim down whenever

  • @theoriginalkora
    @theoriginalkora 3 месяца назад +11

    the lore is really interesting for what it’s worth but a lot of it is convoluted as hell

  • @infinitereverse3587
    @infinitereverse3587 3 месяца назад +26

    Deepwoken lore is so cool but it can be so confusing sometimes

  • @sparkleswfx1062
    @sparkleswfx1062 3 месяца назад +9

    Problem when u kill the mech to study it is that it literally EVAPORATES when u kill it

  • @lolfoxmaster4870
    @lolfoxmaster4870 3 месяца назад +30

    5:06 Wdym nine or ten prophets 😭
    Even the weakest prophet can probably kill a Rogue construct.

    • @Thegoateon
      @Thegoateon 3 месяца назад +16

      I think when he said prophets he meant the ministry scouts bc he was stuttering a lot and didn’t seem to have a script for the vid

    • @Reaconteur
      @Reaconteur  3 месяца назад +11

      man i script all my videos i just forgot what they were called

  • @deathles993
    @deathles993 3 месяца назад +13

    Can't forget how Klaris somehow doesn't even have a bell, While being able to create a whole new attunment/oath.

    • @azelolaro7647
      @azelolaro7647 3 месяца назад +20

      Maybe she haven't experienced near death moment, But if that's the case, she must be really strong

    • @yor7800
      @yor7800 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@azelolaro7647 correct me if I'm wrong, but as I remember she can only be hit by magic.

    • @rain-pj4xq
      @rain-pj4xq 3 месяца назад +6

      ​@@yor7800yeah. She's apparently intangible, not even akira can beat her

    • @TheAquer773
      @TheAquer773 3 месяца назад +1

      She didnt create the attunement/oath

    • @Blahamus
      @Blahamus 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@rain-pj4xq Wrong, Akira can beat her, the strength difference between Akira & her is sure high and even if she might be intangible and make all of his moves useless, Akira can still pop his one-shot bell on her.
      Akira is the strongest Diver we've seen so far cannonically (talking about gameplay-wise of course), it is said that Klaris is barely strong enough to kill a power 20 like us, so she must be like power 25 ish

  • @TheBest_Nascar
    @TheBest_Nascar 3 месяца назад +13

    One of the points you made is that shopkeepers sell the training item for shadowcast even though it is illegal. The training item says in its description that it is blessed gem. Now an inconsistency would be why we cannot use it.

  • @jackdiedtoday_
    @jackdiedtoday_ 3 месяца назад +26

    this video has a ton of mistakes:
    Lord Regent sits on the coral throne all the time because it’s what allows him to cast the mind veil (source: arch mage, operation puppet master book)
    Silentheart doesn’t make you outright reject the song, its a pact with the Dreadstar to purge those who abuse the song, which is a much weaker application of a drowned god’s power. while it only makes you cast away mantras with a vow, not the song outright (source: dreadstar dialogue, kaide dialogue, vows by the sea: inheritance, silentheart card description)
    orlandeau got banished to floor 2 because he was a pirate and that was his punishement (source: tutorial, f2 orlandeau dialogue, klaris dialogue)
    railblade isnt an application of one’s own magic, it mechanically constantly produces it’s own heat (source: railblade description)
    why cant you just move at the high speeds that you move at when using tacet mantrad any time you want? ever heard of ether my friend?
    i dont really know a source that states shadowcast is outright illegal, can you point that one out?

    • @GodspokenYT
      @GodspokenYT 3 месяца назад

      I think it’s said by that one guy who gives ministry rep or the book quest for aces, maybe even one of the books. Apparently shadow cast is an illegal attunement only used by the ministry cult and might be a key part in “drowning the world.” This is only speculation tho.

    • @empsychos5209
      @empsychos5209 3 месяца назад +2

      Isn't the railblade powered mechanically? Not via the song?

    • @ElyassOFF
      @ElyassOFF 3 месяца назад +8

      shadowcast is "taboo", like If you got caught with, you will be either executed or exiled (check wiki)

    • @Sc5ch
      @Sc5ch 3 месяца назад +2

      @@empsychos5209 Yeah, it was created by the Ignition Union. Just like the Mecha Sharkos in Miner's Landing, it just generates heat. Railblade has no relation to Flame, so theoretically it should have access to enchants.

    • @Aolvo
      @Aolvo 3 месяца назад

      Bro just watch the video dude. It is not that deep, don’t gotta write all that when noone gonna listen to your yapp😢

  • @igneousingester3144
    @igneousingester3144 3 месяца назад +5

    My friend managed to play the game for over 6 months, prog several builds, and get high elo and didn't learn about the lore timeline until I explained it to him. If that doesn't show how badly it is all over the place then I don't know what does.
    Also just to clarify silentheart rejects the words of the song, not the song itself. The words of the song are mantras.

  • @rocketta5
    @rocketta5 3 месяца назад +10

    the maestro weapons are a set of enchantable legendary weapons, its just inconsistent what they decide is enchantable for "balance reasons" even though purple cloud is absolutely broken and the fact its enchantable does not help

    • @klocekpolicyjny5854
      @klocekpolicyjny5854 3 месяца назад +1

      purple cloud is so bad what are you talking about

    • @bingalowkie8029
      @bingalowkie8029 3 месяца назад

      @@klocekpolicyjny5854 we found the boosted guy

    • @SallyWalllyy
      @SallyWalllyy 3 месяца назад

      @@klocekpolicyjny5854i got 3 tapped by it one time as power 13 with 50 fortitude

    • @rocketta5
      @rocketta5 3 месяца назад +1

      @@klocekpolicyjny5854i cant tell if this is rage bait or not

    • @VERGILGASM
      @VERGILGASM 3 месяца назад

      ​@@rocketta5 it is tho

  • @yellowjackx5996
    @yellowjackx5996 3 месяца назад +12

    Devs need to stop talking about lore and make players more incentivized to exlpore the world for lore like the secret updates.
    For example how you find the diver journals (aside from looking up a walktrough) is exploration

    • @Sc5ch
      @Sc5ch 3 месяца назад +3

      Except 90% of players don't care and just do it for Deepshore Fossil lol

    • @usernamelegend345
      @usernamelegend345 2 месяца назад

      most people dont care unfortunately, as much as you hate devs, they neglect lore for a valid reason.

  • @ReySiger
    @ReySiger 3 месяца назад +32

    Silentheart's vow rejects the Words of the Song (Mantra chants). Resonances and Murmurs are not words, that's why they're not affected by this oath

    • @dunistaygeekin
      @dunistaygeekin 3 месяца назад +2

      Add murmurs. Murmurs are just words said softly. Add murmurs.

    • @ReySiger
      @ReySiger 3 месяца назад

      @@dunistaygeekin I did include murmurs

    • @TheNathanator
      @TheNathanator 3 месяца назад +3

      Which means murmurs would also count as words of the song, so Silenthearts shouldn't be able to use them. (Murmur means to speak softly or quietly)

    • @ohakol7128
      @ohakol7128 3 месяца назад

      ​@@TheNathanatorno no, mantras are like notes from the song, murmur isnt that

    • @Sc5ch
      @Sc5ch 3 месяца назад +1

      @@TheNathanator Murmurs are more likened to "a soft sound" rather than words in the lore.

  • @saeko2212
    @saeko2212 3 месяца назад +3

    Kenneth was probably killed by a contractor and the guards are only standing guard and awaiting the player.
    Great vid 👍I rly enjoyed this one and the last one the devs really gota step up their lore game

  • @mano__diep1318
    @mano__diep1318 3 месяца назад +10

    dreadheart is prob js keeping you alive w the new heart you have
    (yeah the bell thing doesnt add up doe)

  • @Oncosimeter
    @Oncosimeter 3 месяца назад +3

    Thank you for the excellent video Reaconteur!

    • @Reaconteur
      @Reaconteur  3 месяца назад

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @mogaming163
    @mogaming163 3 месяца назад +1

    I remember when people thought the lore books would tell you how to get contractor oath and others when layer 2 released

  • @Lepouletultime
    @Lepouletultime 3 месяца назад +3

    reading the comments of this vid teaches more about the lore than every surface dialogue put together

  • @endislayerb9850
    @endislayerb9850 3 месяца назад +1

    few months ago the Rogue Construct got it's Lifeweave stuff removed and only does it's physical attacks and the weird fire bomb slam. So it'd make sense why it wouldn't have any major use for reverse engineering lifeweave cause the Devs could just say it weakened over time in Minityrsa or just say it's an older model. Plus the golems seem to explode on death so honestly I could see why they never get a chance to study them, nothing left to study if the hunk of (metal? rock?) is blown up with any magic along it. Still, would love to see overtime map changes and certain explanations for why certain characters live despite how much time passed.

  • @kianmcfoot5219
    @kianmcfoot5219 3 месяца назад +1

    even though the ignition union and the divers are enemies, youre neutral with them when you start a deepbound character

  • @mirko3078
    @mirko3078 3 месяца назад +2

    do you believe that arch mage could actually consider to release an old version of the game? do u know where it has been said? do u know something else?

  • @panasonic8023
    @panasonic8023 3 месяца назад +1

    The legion are so weird. How is there not a camp or base at hive, considering you see them there constantly fighting authority officers. They only have a super tiny camp in a cave at lower Erisia.

  • @TekkaDIS.
    @TekkaDIS. 3 месяца назад

    Silentheart only rejects the words of song which are mantras, I'm assuming the bells are notes of the song that require no words as we don't say our bells when we have spell shout, same thing goes for why they can still vent and benefit from ether related talents.

  • @pistolmann3608
    @pistolmann3608 3 месяца назад +2

    Whats the hair combo the blazing guy was using in clip 2:41?

  • @kaida_mtd
    @kaida_mtd 3 месяца назад +1

    All mobs have Tacet which you can see if you've seen mobs despawn and the hive mech at minitrysa is called a "rogue mech" for a reason(it doesn't belong to the hive anymore).

  • @osbe470
    @osbe470 3 месяца назад +2

    My theory on silentheart. Is that as we know silentheart replace your heart technically. So my theory is that the "heart" is also the "soul" and vice versa so I think what silentheart really does is give your soul the ability to live without the song or silentheart replaces the need for song kind of like replacing a golden egg with a bag of sand on a booby trap

    • @Reaconteur
      @Reaconteur  3 месяца назад +1

      literally the soul equivalent of heavenly restriction in jjk

    • @osbe470
      @osbe470 3 месяца назад

      @@Reaconteur yeah basically also HAAAIIII

  • @Sophrv
    @Sophrv 3 месяца назад

    BTW with silentheart, they reject the words of the song (mantras), but still use other applications of the song

  • @SalvikI
    @SalvikI 3 месяца назад +2

    Isnt silentheart about not abusing the song like everyone else did 🫠

  • @palntyboi
    @palntyboi 3 месяца назад +1

    That’s because she is a trainer and thus knows how to make an attunement potion from a catalyst and blood of a user of that attunement

  • @MatiasIglesiasIglesias
    @MatiasIglesiasIglesias 3 месяца назад

    Dawnwalker is an oath that klaris created from the offshoot of lightkeep that she has called radiant tunes, you can ask her or her friend in the hidden village for this lore

  • @xboxiscool8768
    @xboxiscool8768 3 месяца назад +1

    5:50 I agree about the rail blade part but if you have hunted rep with the ignition union the npcs that spawn have enchanted rail blades I just wanted to state that

  • @drifter2391
    @drifter2391 3 месяца назад +4

    Actually, I read all the lore stuff off the wiki.
    But yeah, the game never tells you it's your soul getting sucked into the Depths, from which you can directly infer that everyone is just straight immortal aside from true death, which only occurs in the Depths.
    Reservoir and tempo were a combat system rework, unrelated to the lore.
    Also, generally shadowcast itself isn't necessarily illegal, it's apparently just because the Ministry use it. There is very obviously a normal way to obtain shadowcast (via Umbral Obsidian and the proper knowledge/people). The guy in the story most likely used some type of failed method that led to taking the entire ether of a person permanently.
    Resonances aren't an application of the Song, they're just a power created by the soul. I find it much weirder that they're capable of using Murmur, which is literally an application of the Song. Anyways, the "silent heart" that Silentheart replaces your heart with is capable of sustaining your life through its own power, while also blocking off the Song.
    Also, Captain Orlando's getting jumped by the Divers if he tries to kill Klaris. And in case you haven't noticed, there happens to be someone called Akira who is most definitely going to retaliate if he attempts to actually kill Klaris.
    Visionshapers are meant to continue hunting Owls, so of course the Owls are going to still attack them. It's just a game for them.
    In some universes Heaven and Earth are opposites, while Hell is a completely seperate dimension existing outside of both of them. So this checks out.
    I just want to mention, Captain Orlandeau really isn't all that. He can survive and plunder quite well, sure, but he is not capable of slaying the Scion of Ethiron. Much unlike us.

  • @TheLadKC
    @TheLadKC 3 месяца назад

    The simple reason for the technology not changing is that would require a big update every few weeks / ingame years and the shadowcast thing is just because it would be annoying as hell

  • @Maxus117
    @Maxus117 3 месяца назад +1

    another thing is that the lore can also vary and change on the players actions

  • @DepthShark
    @DepthShark 3 месяца назад

    When you got to the silent heart part, I thought about the first time I got the oath and it being like I became a walking corpse of sorts, with the dread star keeping my body in tact. Replacing the beat of my characters heart with the slow glow of the given markings.

  • @mangor8543
    @mangor8543 3 месяца назад

    I think I can explain Silentheart bells, the bell is the result of your heart resonating with your soul aka your body and soul becoming "in tune".
    if you can still resonate with your soul you could still manipulate the song, same with abilities like ardour scream and the fact that you even have ether in the first place.

  • @palntyboi
    @palntyboi 3 месяца назад

    The death with no song prolly has been retconned with the god in the machine book (if you don’t know your reading something from the perspective of the person who got used to make the shadow cast juice without a trainer) as well as the heart of a silent heart user being attuned to the rest of the world rather than the song

  • @mrname0420
    @mrname0420 3 месяца назад

    Im pretty sure that silentheart does use the song as thats what allows stuff like mani katti and all that, i forget the reasons for it but i do know it does in fact use the song

  • @midgetpygametherioes9011
    @midgetpygametherioes9011 3 месяца назад

    for the silentheart one if iirc its not that the shrine stops you from having song it just stops the flow
    best comparison is blood, blood flows through your body with your heart pumping it with silentheart your song no longer pumps the song throughout you it gets turned off but its still there just not used
    as for the bell part the bell is a gift of song given to those with their soul its a being stronger then the dreadstar giving you a note of song directly

  • @deathlord9329
    @deathlord9329 3 месяца назад

    It would be cool to see silentheart gets something special in exchange for absolutely not being able to use at all. Which prolly solves the problem of silentheart not being able to use song or somn so instead of getting bell u get special ability or somn.

  • @MattthemaniaC
    @MattthemaniaC 3 месяца назад +2

    if the deep lore actually tied with the game, i believe it would make the overall gameplay experience much better.

  • @lorddeans-
    @lorddeans- 3 месяца назад +1

    The races do have good buffs and different things they give you, like how adret will give you the extra points, it helps you level faster than playing another race or how the moth one can be attacked and then see the person who hit them through walls so if they were to try to run or hide it would be pretty hard.

    • @lnDomitable1
      @lnDomitable1 3 месяца назад

      I sincerely hope your joking or you need to play the game for another 2 years.

    • @lorddeans-
      @lorddeans- 3 месяца назад +1

      where's the joke at? I'm not a 600 lbs. no life that sits on Roblox all day but from what I can see the races are all pretty good in different ways, I just pointed out his one-sided pov. and I don't plan on becoming someone who no life Roblox for the next 2 years I play it for enjoyment not to cry about what's there and what's not. just saying you prolly could use some time off of Roblox if you cant see that a glider doesn't make tiran (don't know how to spell it don't have it) the best race in the game. @@lnDomitable1

    • @lorddeans-
      @lorddeans- 3 месяца назад +1

      @@lnDomitable1 there are literally way better races for example the one with the skull mask that gives buffs to allies or people around you, that could help out way more than gliding down a fkn mountain where theres most likely a zipline right beside you.

    • @lnDomitable1
      @lnDomitable1 3 месяца назад

      @@lorddeans- oh my goodness if this skull guy didn't use his race ability I would've died from my hunger. please I beg you put a sock in it and compare these races to their older shit and be amazed. also celtor and khan have the worst one is for ships hp, and khan lets you equip a weapon if you have 3 investment point lower than the requirement. god your mentally deficient.

  • @leedergs
    @leedergs 2 месяца назад

    9:13 when you enter the rotlands it says on the top of your screen "The scent of decay suffocates this murky land, once the home of a fallen Celestial." lol

  • @ScxrchedOasis
    @ScxrchedOasis 3 месяца назад

    The reason hives advancements havent made it in game yet is because the aratel is one of the smallest greathives in the lore. The hive has a ton of greathives spread out everywhere trying to siphon the life and grow their own trees and land and the bigger ones are probably where the technology and biggest weapons are

  • @Sticky_monkey
    @Sticky_monkey 3 месяца назад

    i mean the tacet sharkos kind make sense because you get ardour from kaido so murmurs clearly have something to with monsters, vague but not exactly a problem right?

  • @alphadrinksnoodles
    @alphadrinksnoodles 3 месяца назад

    I think I know why silentheart has bells and stuff.
    In the game ts say's that you reject the words of the song, and I think by words of the song it means mantras but, the lore doesn't back this up correctly.

  • @darkmatter9643
    @darkmatter9643 3 месяца назад

    It’s possible that ever since zi’eer took control of etris he made shadowcast legal again, because based on the events of the stars above and the blade between we can presume that he knows shadowcast magic, and also the ministry tends to use it so there’s no reason for him to keep it outlawed

    • @Reaconteur
      @Reaconteur  3 месяца назад

      they never said anything about it

    • @darkmatter9643
      @darkmatter9643 3 месяца назад

      @@Reaconteur well I mean, outside of lore books that take place in the past the illegality of shadowcast is never mentioned so you can presume that it was made legal.

  • @ldonthesticks
    @ldonthesticks 3 месяца назад +1

    Kennith is in layer 2 because regent is a contractor and whoever a contractor kills goes straight to layer 2. However, i have no idea how he made it to floor 2

    • @Reaconteur
      @Reaconteur  3 месяца назад

      he’s the goat 🐐

  • @user-ih5fp5do3f
    @user-ih5fp5do3f 3 месяца назад

    Ik this isn’t a perfect explanation but the shadowcast training item is basically a rock of light, and in order to train shadowcast you corrupt that light.

  • @Miistt
    @Miistt 3 месяца назад

    to clear up the confusion of pure hearts being in towns, they should add the lightkeep attunement so some lore makes sense and we get a brand new attunement🔥

  • @mr.roblox9858
    @mr.roblox9858 3 месяца назад

    Something funny about lore is that the silly thresher spikes has like a paragraph of lore. But the strange claw has like one sentence

  • @dragon21252
    @dragon21252 2 месяца назад

    We should have more storylines to make the lore a bit more tied into the gameplay in my opinion

  • @jamaldonquequatavion9500
    @jamaldonquequatavion9500 3 месяца назад

    I hope deepwoken addresses this and do some about it and add more to the lore and make lore a main focus on tjr game

  • @milo-kz1pi
    @milo-kz1pi 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for telling me this Rėquäañtøûr

    • @aarash6982
      @aarash6982 3 месяца назад

      Negro what in the Heretic's Sutra spelling is that

  • @acertainpotato
    @acertainpotato 3 месяца назад

    I think silentheart users deny the words of a song and not the whole song but idk i didnt really look at the lore much...

  • @govnolep
    @govnolep 3 месяца назад +1

    Silentheart using bells is like Toji using mahoraga

  • @CuiMagic
    @CuiMagic 3 месяца назад +2

    As duke erisia saw Kenneth and activated his auto parry he look at kenneth but kenneth was using his anti parry technique that he obtained by killing 10 Ethirons at the same time “Nah I’d win” said Kenneth before having raw se-

  • @leonfesh
    @leonfesh 3 месяца назад

    Ok for Silentheart its actually pretty simple you dont deny the song completaly instead u deny Attunments and mantras, because you dont Spam/Waste the song since Bells dont Spam and brake the song (with brake i mean like the drowning)

  • @palntyboi
    @palntyboi 3 месяца назад

    Bells are murmurs are dealings of the song with the soul rather than the heart and because your soul still is sung you can use them

  • @suppressedkat5873
    @suppressedkat5873 3 месяца назад +1

    try to find a video where reaconteur isnt complaining challenge

  • @AZR43L.
    @AZR43L. 3 месяца назад

    4:20 , im assuming they dont give most de mobilised soldiers their advanced weapons because once they die, their weapons can be looted and reverse reconstructed. So unless there was a large scale war i dont think it would be wise giving out their high tech weapons incase the wrong people get their hands on it

  • @trucoteca1924
    @trucoteca1924 3 месяца назад +1

    i always wondered whats the hype about maestro killing lord regent, he probably can just escape the depths and be back again

    • @Reaconteur
      @Reaconteur  3 месяца назад +1

      gotta follow his ass down there

    • @eqnxYT
      @eqnxYT 3 месяца назад +1

      The previous king of Etrea is stuck down there due to Ministry stuff

  • @shownathan5636
    @shownathan5636 3 месяца назад +4

    13:24 seems like simons voice in cof

  • @cyrill300mod8
    @cyrill300mod8 3 месяца назад

    King of etrea is fighting Minitstry’s first prophet there in layer 9.

  • @acemagic2628
    @acemagic2628 3 месяца назад +1

    Silentheart one could definitely be explained with the Dreadstar being a similar entity to Yun'Shul

    • @acemagic2628
      @acemagic2628 3 месяца назад

      and Dread being what replaces the song that your body functions off

  • @guest833
    @guest833 3 месяца назад

    silentheart denies the words of the song doesnt it? And bells arent really words while mantras are the words of song song. Thats what i heard atleast

  • @HARRAWISH
    @HARRAWISH 3 месяца назад

    7:33 the whole lore of silentheart is being gifted a new heart that fits your lifestyle of rejecting the song
    dude.

  • @rednessgod5729
    @rednessgod5729 3 месяца назад

    Arcane odyssey is about to get a huge update. An update so huge, that a new sea will be added and the level cap will be raised. Everyone in the AO community is talking about it, and the update is coming out this month. So I was wondering; will you make a video about the new update?

    • @Reaconteur
      @Reaconteur  3 месяца назад

      W

    • @KermitDaFreshie160
      @KermitDaFreshie160 3 месяца назад +1

      I'm sorry but the combat in that game.....is soo bad. Good world though

  • @tashawnwarriorwarrior5671
    @tashawnwarriorwarrior5671 3 месяца назад

    On the kennith thing i think he was killed by regent and then cut into multiple pieces by the guards afterwards

  • @thedbggamer104
    @thedbggamer104 3 месяца назад +1

    how do you knwo kenneth is weak? have you ever faught him? Every good deepwoken player has killed duke but none of them have beat kenneth in pvp. I think kenneth was so loyal to etris that he surrendered to teh etris guards and didn't show his true power

  • @Mrblue42668
    @Mrblue42668 3 месяца назад

    I think the race thing is that there is not enough origins so some races would just suck compared to others

  • @rytrongaming
    @rytrongaming 3 месяца назад

    I plan on getting all the books for my guild eventually
    Also cant wait for lifeweave to comeout maybe give a reasson to have ganeymeade and Vesparian

    • @Reaconteur
      @Reaconteur  3 месяца назад

      psure the devs said lightkeep and maybe lifeweave would never be obtainable

  • @boozados
    @boozados 3 месяца назад

    A lot of people correcting this guy about his comments on silentheart. You’re probably right but did you guys comment early enough to not see other comments of similar make or?

  • @zenderosse
    @zenderosse 3 месяца назад

    cap'n orlando is the one against everyone first he got raid by authority he lost everything got sent by klaris in layer 2 (he say smth special if you do the tutorial and that could be so cool if you can found the whole crew of the cap'n)

  • @bezkanfetbezz6110
    @bezkanfetbezz6110 3 месяца назад

    actually silentheart rejects words of the song(that being mantras) instead of song in general

  • @edvardironofficial8931
    @edvardironofficial8931 3 месяца назад

    Funny how contractors are meant to be direct servants of lord regent, yet after getting oath and progressing it we just do our stuff or be like freelancers.
    Imagine if regent could give like assignments like bounties(assasinations), or overall unique quests.

    • @landonrafferty5083
      @landonrafferty5083 3 месяца назад

      And doing enough could get events tied in with lore since you become trusted

  • @HARRAWISH
    @HARRAWISH 3 месяца назад

    4:29 i feel like if npcs had exclusive weapons everyone would just cry that its unobtainable

  • @grim4499
    @grim4499 3 месяца назад +1

    They should add sifu mechanics to Deepwoken when you get older the scale of your hp lowers but the damage gets higher hence “the older you get the more fragile you become but stronger perfecting your skills”

    • @boon3772
      @boon3772 3 месяца назад

      Moon ring to give your hp back

  • @emeraldloverplus394
    @emeraldloverplus394 3 месяца назад +1

    It’s more like hollow Earth than a mirrored reality.

  • @imaginebeinbad6330
    @imaginebeinbad6330 3 месяца назад

    4:45 murmurs in this game seem to act like haki powers but not quite like that. It’s like these abilities that any character or mob can use . Everything in the verse living uses ether alpha sharko using tacet doesn’t break the lore.
    Lastly sharko using tacet isn’t teleportation. He turns invisible and then sneaks up. You can legit hit him while he uses tacet

  • @felipeeywei7533
    @felipeeywei7533 3 месяца назад +1

    there is no reason to know about the lore if they dont make update to world expansion, events, quests, etc

  • @wubblenub2526
    @wubblenub2526 3 месяца назад +1

    Cap’n Orlando is the Gold Roger of deep

  • @playamonkey2350
    @playamonkey2350 3 месяца назад

    Well Kennith must have killed Chaser if he is in floor 2. How did he kill Chaser? Is Kennith some sort of beast and have ultra insincts or something???

  • @anitaamoako7571
    @anitaamoako7571 3 месяца назад +1

    Wouldn't it be cool if Duke goes to layer 2 and because of the influence of ethiron, he learns purple gale ?

    • @Reaconteur
      @Reaconteur  3 месяца назад +1

      that would be fire

  • @JoeKing7102
    @JoeKing7102 3 месяца назад

    8:48 im pretty sure no matter how many drowns you have you dont just go straight to layer 2

  • @manoteu6843
    @manoteu6843 3 месяца назад

    Kennith going to layer 2 after death might be explained by his strenght not being actual brute power but the determination to discover the truth behind Lord Regent and such, something most would actually fear of searching and etc, which would explain that the "heavyness" of his soul is linked to his will and drive to uncover the truth, rather than his raw capacity. What do you think?

    • @GodspokenYT
      @GodspokenYT 3 месяца назад +2

      I agree, it’s likely the stronger your determination the stronger and heavier your soul

  • @garbageposter1775
    @garbageposter1775 3 месяца назад

    7:25 silentheart only rejects the use of attunements n stuff or smth idk how to explain thats why yu can get bel

  • @hoovy9300
    @hoovy9300 3 месяца назад

    A lot of this can be explained with: it’s a passion project roblox game that has to allocate its time conservatively

  • @OzzyTheCat2419
    @OzzyTheCat2419 3 месяца назад

    I feel like if they truly wanted people to include lore in people's heads as a step to get more people talking about it is maybe basing updates around big things like oath releases around lore drops. An example being like.. dropping silentheart around a massive loredump where you put it together and you find silentheart that way. It's so.. weird.

  • @basicallyentry6544
    @basicallyentry6544 2 месяца назад

    silenthearts deny the lyrics of the song, which are mantras, not anything else

  • @TrickyShinigami
    @TrickyShinigami 3 месяца назад +1

    Keep in mind the only future realistic thing in this game is mecha sharko and that heavy railgun