Another low iq commenter. Eduard Isenmann et al. 2019 looks at past studies and conducts their own on ecdysteroids. THE RESEARCHERS THEMSELVES SAY: “Our results strongly suggest the inclusion of ecdysterone in the list of prohibited substances and methods in sports”
Yeah Turk doesn’t work lol That’s why I just do peptides and a couple of SARMs, and even then, I only do SARMs 5mos out of the year due to the fact we don’t know what long term use could possibly do to the human body 🤷🏼♀️
Cool then don't get talking to people who doubt it works not people who don't care you should take his advice and leave lol go somewhere else. In his own words don't need you.
Apart from the fact I eat 1kg or turkey a day lol I have tried Turkesterone via Amazon U.K. which was Ajuga Turkestanica extract. I didn't get it because of the science behind turkesterone but because of all the great reviews and it wasn't that expensive. DEFINITELY noticed the benefit. I was fuller and feel stronger with more energy.
Wasn’t Greg selling fake Turk and didn’t offer refunds- I don’t know who would trust him, especially since there are so many options. He’s a funny guy, but I would never trust him with my health.
Yep. I like Greg but its ridiculous to hear him complain about people not trusting him when he said the same things last time and his Turk ended up being fake.
What are you talking about? They were all selling equity builder that didn’t contain any Turk because they had low testing. Greg was the only one that changed the label to Eck. The builder now has the real Turk with updated testing that everyone wanted and everyone else is still selling the.Fake Turk so they’re the scammers not Greg
That’s exactly the opposite of what happened. He made a video on this the time. When he found out his Turk was mostly Ecdy he owned up to it. He changed the labels to reflect what was in it. I don’t believe he was intentionally selling something else. It’s just that Turk and Ecdy have similar signatures when tested with lesser accurate tests. I do believe he offered refunds.
Better for me less demand = lower price 😂. Eduard Isenmann et al. 2019 looks at past studies and conducts their own on ecdysteroids. THE RESEARCHERS THEMSELVES SAY: “Our results strongly suggest the inclusion of ecdysterone in the list of prohibited substances and methods in sports”
Offer a money back guarantee!! Seriously. If they get gains and like it they’ll keep coming back for more. If they don’t like it, well you lost the cost of a bottle. But if you believe it this much, youll offer a money back guarantee offer??
@@gregdoucette doesnt that mean u used to source turk out of china with no turk in it and u willingly sold it refund them if there wasnt any turk in there
I would agree but did you try it for yourself? Otherwise I don’t nessecary agree with u or disagree. If you did try the newest one Turk builder with actual turkestorone (unlike previous and other versions which were fake)If u haven’t I’m sorry i need evidence
@@azakisma.1.mo_ago We don’t have to prove it when we’ve tried it ourselves dude 😂 I took Turk for half of 2023 and nothing significant happened, and that was before I started any peptides or SARMs.
Yeah, this point was kinda funny. With the amount of control people can create with greenhouses as far as climate and uv exposure for plants, I find it very hard to believe that the plant couldn't survive anywhere else. Nevermind. As I typed this I realized I don't know jack about herbology, and it just seems impractical. It would probably cost way more than it's worth to go through the hoops to grow it anywhere it doesn't naturally grow. Probably can be done, but not worth the cost.
I'll pass on a few extra lbs of muscle over potentially harming my long term health and quality of life by taking a product that hasn't been properly researched and approved.
Thank you!!!! My thoughts exactly! Like why the hell does this stuff keep me up 3-4 hours past when I usually sleep. What’s the mechanism of action for that? Why does my mood improve so much? What’s the mechanism of action for that? There’s way to many unknowns with these compounds imo
@@ljxk3l31he explained this in a video at the time. I’m just going from memory so I may be misstating him and Im no expert but what happened was that the lab test he used was not capable of differentiating between Turk and Ecdy. They both look alike so what they thought was Turk was mostly Ecdy. He has since been using a mass spectrometer or something which is of a higher quality and much more able to test for the two.
"I don't need people to follow me who think I'm a liar." You've been caught selling fake "turkesterone" and didn't give anybody refunds. You need to be monitored by people who are willing to hold you accountable, since you have an established history of not doing it yourself.
Imagine how much proteins (food) you could get for the cost of a Turkey bottle (which have no evidence it works in humans). Look it up and you'll be amazed. I know which one i would spend my hard earned money on.
I agree re the science but I bought Turkesterone Amazon because of the great reviews and it was great! Fuller and stronger on it. It's cheap instead of people going by YT comments they can try it and see. P.S.I didn't get Greg's or Derek's.
I remember when turk came into the picture a few years back. I called bullshit on it since day one. The fact that you had people on gear taking it too advertise / and market bullshit was beyond me.
You're right he is the one that started selling the phantom Turk, did he refund all those purchases with the episteron/none Turk sales he made. Of course not
@@LouDezI certainly trust Derek more given he provides actual information rather than just ranting on. I like Greg for ranting, and Derek for actual information.
@@breyden9363 You’re literally the only one in this comments section I’ve seen saying that. I took Turk for half of 2023 and nothing happened. Waste of time and money. Protein, creatine, peps and 3 SARMs are what I stick to. Turk is useless.
Eduard Isenmann et al. 2019 looks at past studies and conducts their own on ecdysteroids. THE RESEARCHERS THEMSELVES SAY: “Our results strongly suggest the inclusion of ecdysterone in the list of prohibited substances and methods in sports”
@@AB-su7jt I give you a study with researchers who know more about how it works than me and you SAYING they should ban it, and you gave me that sorry low iq ass response? Terminate your channel 😭
I’ve only put on ~6 lbs in 2 months; however, my recovery has been amazing, my endurance has increased and the best part is that I’ve increased in the 3 big lifts significantly (deadlift 30 lbs, bench press 25 lbs, and barbell squat 60 lbs) since starting taking it, all while increasing my calorie intake and decreasing my bf percentage. I thought it was just a placebo effect at first but i don’t think a placebo would last this long…
Yeah, like how tropical plants can't grow in the Arctic and vice versa. This is like comparing apples to an iPhone. Brain, the least used organ in bodybuilding.
@@rsvpurgtWe all know there's only little part of Uzbekistan where is hot and the rest of this planet is literally a snow desert. No place on Earth with similar weather/soil
Greg got so much backslash when he was selling the original Turk builder, but he acknowledged the (imo honest) mistake, rebranded the product to Ecdy builder, did his homework, found how to get actual turkesterone, managed to source it, relaunched the product, had it tested and proved that it is what it is supposed to be. So far Greg is the only one who was fully transparent, acknowledged the problem and went above and beyond to fix it. And none of the haters who were criticizing Greg before have the integrity to acknowledge his achievement. Bravo Greg. Wish you all the best.
I have used Derek's Ecdysterone for a long time. I tried one bottle of the turk from him before all the news happened a while ago about no turk found in the products. I always found the Ecdysterone to work while the Turk did not feel like I did anything noticeable. So I will take the challenge. I just purchased your Turkesterone and will compare my results and how I feel.
@ivangerginov5648 No, because I still ordered my normal ecdysterone from Derek. For less than $60 with shipping included using the discount code, it is not a huge risk. I looked at his lab testing, and I do not believe Greg would make that same mistake a second time and place his reputation on the line. My question is not if I believe it is real turkesterone this time, but what if any differences I can see in my body composition and workouts.
@@TheAgelessAthleteany result it’s my day 3 on Turk, first day I noticed my pump was looking extra good, got extra vein showing, even got a compliment, and today is my day 3 I haven’t hit the gym yet since it’s my rest day I notice my arm looks a slight better
Basically the specie of turkesterone you find in China, Korea, Japan is called "ajuga ciliata". While Tajikistan and Uzbekistan specie is called "ajuga turkestanica". Seems like every specie has different effects on our body. If you buy those 2 species and try them you can notice they have different effects.
@@AblancVeintidos-iq1nh I don't know that much. You can check the different "ajuga" species on wikipedia. Then when you buy a turkesterone supplement you just check the label to see which ajuga specie it's been used for that supplement. I tried the 2 I mentioned in my first comment and I noticed the difference. 1 was like almost nothing is changing. The other one was like I was more energetic, but not a huge difference. You can have the same feeling when you start taking creatine or L-car. So MY conclusion is that stacking works the best. Creatine + turkesterone + tongkat ali, for example.
Bought it a month ago…and I finished the whole bottle notice slight strength increase and muscle striations didn’t change my diet or nothing goood stuff really.
Been taking it for 3-4 months or so, never took the old formula everyone complains about was a scam, so didn’t have any preconceived notions about that. I feel a difference in strength, output and hunger.
@@fran2911 no, haven’t gotten my bloodwork done. But more background: Natural otherwise, was about 168lbs last year at this time. And was maintaining 166-170 until earlier this year. Didn’t consciously bulk, weights 3-4x/week plus lots and lots of cardio. can’t remember last time I was below 175. Was probably 13% bf for most of last year. Currently 178-181 everyday and a very similar bf% 11-14.
Ight boys and gals, Ill be your guinea pig for this one. I just placed my order for Turk Builder and will be documenting everything from the good and the bad and I will let you decide if it is worth it or not. Once it arrives ill start the review. DISCLAIMER I am not affiliated or sponsored. Im just your average joe who wants to put on a ton of muscle without the side effects of actually doing Tren or the like.
I notice a difference, pumps are fuller and I feel stronger. I also feel more aggressive in the gym. Just took 10 days off from it while traveling, I missed it while lifting at the hotel, looking forward to taking some before the gym this week.
😄😄 I FUCKING CALLED IT. In Greg's last video I commented that this was going to be the next fitness influencer beef and that Greg was going to start it.
I’m much more impressed with how you managed to use the F word and not get it taken down by RUclips. I can’t even say the word dumb without RUclips taking it down or giving me a warning.
I've been lifting for more than 10 years and built an amazing physique. I did take steroids a couple years ago. But I will have to admit that Turk has been the closest thing to steroids in terms of results. I feel like turkesterone is way better than creatine. In fact, the money you waste with it, it's totally worth it.
Lol me too though. I trust in Greg, but that last split of nonsense had me thinking. And even though I don't know fore sure I trust that last bit. Now is a slightly different story, I want him to be on the up and up.
@@philipschofield7105 why do you want him to be on the up and up are you living your life through him? is your life so empty that you place your faith on a sleazy pos
Greg’s Turk is 100% effective I can vouch that. I’ve never taken sarms, Turk or anything prior to trying it so maybe it’s my tolerance not being the best for these types of supps but I have seen strength and physical change in only 2 weeks so far.
Thanks for putting out this video. Most of the Turk out there is bunk. It sucks that most companies wont do their due diligence and post quality lab test results. It's sad to see Derek being a scumbag like that.
I've used other companies turk pills and they felt like they did diddly squat. But I recently bought a bottle of Gregs turkbuilder to give it a shot so we'll see how it goes. Hella expensive so I'm hoping it at least does more than what a caffeine pill would do.
Coach Greg. I’m gonna put YOUR product to the test. I’ve hit a plateau in the gym and in body composition. I will take your Turk Builder for 60 days. I will come back to this comment in 60 days to report my results. Although I will need to research the dosage I should use.
Biggest red flag for me was when Derek made his initial video on turk he said it was very hard to source. In his follow up video addressing ND he said actually it's complexing it with cyclodextrin that takes a long time. I knew most of the stuff on the market was bunk when it went from out of stock at a few places to everyone and their mother selling it. I still take an ecdy based muscle builder and see great results from it every time (when it's in stock 😂) and it's good to see Greg has 3rd party testing to back his product up
The reason ecdysteroids never made it on WADA's prohibited list is that they don't work. They don't interact with androgen receptors in humans. Ecdysteroids interact with the estrogen receptor beta. This might still seem interesting for hypertrophy purposes until one realises that soy isoflavones do exactly the same thing and that soy isoflavones don't get you very jacked.
It does indeed work. And I take with many other supplements from other brands. Put in the work and you’ll see recovery strength the works. Thanks for going the extra mile Greg
You know what I noticed on turkesterone? Because it's expensive, I went to the gym more, got more sleep and ate better as to not waste it on poor training. Unsurprisingly physique improved. Was it the turk? Probably not.
@@IronWarrior86 I know what a placebo is but I'm disagreeing. I consciously changed my diet and exercise. If I didn't change my diet and routine and still noticed an improvement, that might be placebo effect, but that's not what happened.
Look into the research bud WADA doesnt put things on the watchlist for fun. Its not just WADA, there are researchers that strongly advise these regulatory agencies to include ecdysteroids as “anabolic agents”
@@duty5127 And you didnt respond to those points. Researchers who understand the mechanisms of action and conducted experiments urge the regulatory agencies to ban ecdysteroids
@@duty5127 Parroting the same stuff that you’re dodging. Can you give me a time stamp where Greg specifically talks about research on turk? You cant bud
Honestly Greg, I am a life time natty at 34, near peak size, still growing very slow, I gave been training 16 years, I would try both yours and Dereks but longevity is very important to me and I don't see any long term studies available. Can you show me if there are Greg?
I'm no fan of turk but Greg has a point about Gorilla Mind's lack of actual testing. Not just for Ecdy/Turk. A lot of Derek's other supplements under the "Third Party Testing" section have a self input "Result by Input" as well. For example, Gorilla Shroom has no actual testing results, but the paper claims it has mg for mg, exactly 3200mg Lions Mane but who knows how much is in it or even what the extract is standardized for.
I know you're joking around but it's a great idea. If Greg believes so much in it. He has the time and money to find a normal guy who works out and eats mostly clean. To experiment on and track the progression/results over an extended amount of time. He could film/document it and show the world. Will he... probably not. But it would be fun to watch. Not saying one guy will make everyone believe. But it would be a start to some credibility of this product.
I was legit thinking the same thing. I been working out for 17 years. All natural. Very into in nutrition. And would be interested to see the results with taking Greg’s Turk
Turk Builder struggling to sell.... Lets make a video and pretend its flying off the shelves😂😂 You're a good salesman Greg. A bit like a used car salesman. I'd never trust a word they have to say though!
So are there any reliable non-bias reviews on RUclips testing Gregs Turk? Id imagine greg would have made like 5 videos reviewing those reviews but he hasn’t. Also Greg people don’t believe you because last time you said all of this your Turk ended up being something completely different and what did you do? Deflect the blame.
Derek is about to do a 3 hour dismantling video 😂
You mean “stupid virgin” 😂
prolly not, he's been really quiet with this topic.
For real lol
He has been quiet in general @@lanceresultay014
I probably shouldn’t but I have unlimited faith in Derek 😂
My two internet dads are fighting ☹️
it's exciting
Your internet dad could beat up your internet dad! Wait that didn't sound right...
womp womp
Againer than last time
Noel will adopt you and have no drama 😂
Coach Greg be like “Derek, your turkesterone is more useless than my useless turkesterone”
Another low iq commenter. Eduard Isenmann et al. 2019 looks at past studies and conducts their own on ecdysteroids. THE RESEARCHERS THEMSELVES SAY: “Our results strongly suggest the inclusion of ecdysterone in the list of prohibited substances and methods in sports”
For real
Haha 😂 I’ve tried two different brands of Turk and they both did absolutely nothing
@@conormayweather5474try Greg's n see if it works lol then u know it really is crap or you've taken shit turk
Yeah Turk doesn’t work lol
That’s why I just do peptides and a couple of SARMs, and even then, I only do SARMs 5mos out of the year due to the fact we don’t know what long term use could possibly do to the human body 🤷🏼♀️
“Buy Derek’s and try it for 30 days. Buy mine and try it for 30 days.” No. I don’t need any of this garbage bro.
wise
Let's just all open our eyes, yes, you don't need it, no, nobody cares if u take it, THE PROBLEM IS THEM LYING ABOUT THE CONTENT 😂😂😂
Cool then don't get talking to people who doubt it works not people who don't care you should take his advice and leave lol go somewhere else.
In his own words don't need you.
Want more gains?
1. Eat good and healthy
2. Train hard
3. Rest well
Yall don’t need turkey
just add some tren to the mix lol, don't forget "TRT/HRT" as a base...
Apart from the fact I eat 1kg or turkey a day lol I have tried Turkesterone via Amazon U.K. which was Ajuga Turkestanica extract. I didn't get it because of the science behind turkesterone but because of all the great reviews and it wasn't that expensive. DEFINITELY noticed the benefit. I was fuller and feel stronger with more energy.
Yeah but I want the influencer natural gains.
@@judasblewit you want those Mike O Hearn natty gains?
@@Rvega2763 yes!!! Lol
Wasn’t Greg selling fake Turk and didn’t offer refunds- I don’t know who would trust him, especially since there are so many options. He’s a funny guy, but I would never trust him with my health.
Yep. I like Greg but its ridiculous to hear him complain about people not trusting him when he said the same things last time and his Turk ended up being fake.
That’s fair, never tried it so I wouldn’t know 😂
What are you talking about? They were all selling equity builder that didn’t contain any Turk because they had low testing. Greg was the only one that changed the label to Eck. The builder now has the real Turk with updated testing that everyone wanted and everyone else is still selling the.Fake Turk so they’re the scammers not Greg
That’s exactly the opposite of what happened. He made a video on this the time. When he found out his Turk was mostly Ecdy he owned up to it. He changed the labels to reflect what was in it. I don’t believe he was intentionally selling something else. It’s just that Turk and Ecdy have similar signatures when tested with lesser accurate tests. I do believe he offered refunds.
@@lissadawes4243 you believe wrong. No refunds were offered.
let it rest coach greg. nobody aint buying Turkesterone, we stick to the basics. creatine and protein 💯
right we can jus eat spinach u bums alrdy scammed us
Better for me less demand = lower price 😂. Eduard Isenmann et al. 2019 looks at past studies and conducts their own on ecdysteroids. THE RESEARCHERS THEMSELVES SAY: “Our results strongly suggest the inclusion of ecdysterone in the list of prohibited substances and methods in sports”
@@havocmg fool and his money are soon parted
And yet its sold out every single time. Try it before you just come here to hate 😂
@@havocmg That's.... that's not how supply and demand works...
I'll eat turkey instead thank you
That will honestly help you 5x more
Much better investment.
@@oh033 did you try it?
it's ok broke boy
I ate a turkey leg at Disneyland yesterday does that count 😅
Offer a money back guarantee!! Seriously. If they get gains and like it they’ll keep coming back for more. If they don’t like it, well you lost the cost of a bottle. But if you believe it this much, youll offer a money back guarantee offer??
Be careful, comments like that will make him ban you
yea i mean he said we changed from where we sources is doesnt that mean he used to source it from china with no turk in there cmon greg
I upvote this.
@@gregdoucette doesnt that mean u used to source turk out of china with no turk in it and u willingly sold it refund them if there wasnt any turk in there
Ok will so it. Making a video on it. Stay tuned
It is a legit scam. And expensive.
U tried it right( if you didn’t yet it wouldn’t be fair to call it a scam)
@@user-ke1dq8in2t there are no studies to support turkersterone’s efficacy in humans. There is no identified mean of action. It is bunk.
@@user-ke1dq8in2t it is not new. It’s been around since the early 2000s.
I would agree but did you try it for yourself? Otherwise I don’t nessecary agree with u or disagree. If you did try the newest one Turk builder with actual turkestorone (unlike previous and other versions which were fake)If u haven’t I’m sorry i need evidence
@@adampistorius4549he is being arrogant that it will work, so far as falling out Derek. Let’s see what unfolds.
Pushing Turk to get another Mclaren HARDER THAN LAST TIME 🤣🤣
He lost half in the common law divorce
Just remember, there were a lot of people saying how "great" their anecdotal experience was before when it was later proven it was bunk.
@@Ryan_DeWitt it actually was proven to contain an abundance of ecdysteroids. Just not turkesterone. Trying to point out the truth.
Those people were more moronic than last time
Sorry
So..what are you waiting for?. Prove it...
@@azakisma.1.mo_ago
We don’t have to prove it when we’ve tried it ourselves dude 😂 I took Turk for half of 2023 and nothing significant happened, and that was before I started any peptides or SARMs.
93 octane for that McLaren must be expensive. He's selling this hard.
The plant only grows if it knows its going to be harvested for Greg.
Yeah, this point was kinda funny. With the amount of control people can create with greenhouses as far as climate and uv exposure for plants, I find it very hard to believe that the plant couldn't survive anywhere else.
Nevermind. As I typed this I realized I don't know jack about herbology, and it just seems impractical. It would probably cost way more than it's worth to go through the hoops to grow it anywhere it doesn't naturally grow. Probably can be done, but not worth the cost.
😂😂😂
lololol
I'll pass on a few extra lbs of muscle over potentially harming my long term health and quality of life by taking a product that hasn't been properly researched and approved.
Researched and approved by whom?
Thank you!!!! My thoughts exactly! Like why the hell does this stuff keep me up 3-4 hours past when I usually sleep. What’s the mechanism of action for that? Why does my mood improve so much? What’s the mechanism of action for that? There’s way to many unknowns with these compounds imo
Yeah alcohol is approved for human consumption. He must mean the FDA. @@jasonshults368
No one is arguing about whether or not your turk is real, we're saying there is not enough human evidence to prove efficacy.
Well his old one was third party tested and had like 1% of the turk advertised lll
@@ljxk3l310.15% actually
@@ljxk3l31 1% of no efficacy is as good as 100% no efficacy.
But his turk ISNT real?
@@ljxk3l31he explained this in a video at the time. I’m just going from memory so I may be misstating him and Im no expert but what happened was that the lab test he used was not capable of differentiating between Turk and Ecdy. They both look alike so what they thought was Turk was mostly Ecdy. He has since been using a mass spectrometer or something which is of a higher quality and much more able to test for the two.
there was once a protein powder in the UK which was giving everybody actual gains, not surprised when it came out that it had DBOL in it LMAO.
Where can I find this, for research purposes of course.
@@ProjectPaolocan you share your research with me when you finished it?
for research purpose as well 😅..
Hot Stuff? Rumored they did that here in the states in the early 90's.
@@ProjectPaolo just buy some dbol if you want some, its like £20 - 25 for 100 tablets
@@crunchynetto6979have you guys finished your research? I’d like to also test this powder myself for scientific reasons
"I don't need people to follow me who think I'm a liar."
You've been caught selling fake "turkesterone" and didn't give anybody refunds.
You need to be monitored by people who are willing to hold you accountable, since you have an established history of not doing it yourself.
Cant believe he is still allowed to sell supps after his turk scam!
Imagine how much proteins (food) you could get for the cost of a Turkey bottle (which have no evidence it works in humans). Look it up and you'll be amazed. I know which one i would spend my hard earned money on.
I agree re the science but I bought Turkesterone Amazon because of the great reviews and it was great! Fuller and stronger on it. It's cheap instead of people going by YT comments they can try it and see. P.S.I didn't get Greg's or Derek's.
It is a scam. I’ve taken it. Didn’t do crap
you took gregs?
Try buying his cookbook help you make beans on toast for protein
was it gregs turkesterone?
more details pls like was it gregs how long did you take it any effects?
I remember when turk came into the picture a few years back. I called bullshit on it since day one. The fact that you had people on gear taking it too advertise / and market bullshit was beyond me.
Oh now Turkesterone IS better than Ecdi, when you had Ecdi selling under the name of Turk you didn't care..
He is being arrogant, sure it works. But he doesn’t deserve our trust
You're right he is the one that started selling the phantom Turk, did he refund all those purchases with the episteron/none Turk sales he made. Of course not
@mrmap4875 The point remains that his product didn't contain what the label said it did. And instead of apologizing Greg pulled a Remington James...
Greg pushing Turk this hard makes it seen it ain’t selling bro chill ain’t nobody talking about it
Starting a beef with Derek over supplements is about as smart as starting a rap beef w Eminem.
ayeeee free promo u knw how these bums work
Eminem is awful
eminem is a sell out lmao so what are you trying to say
@@LouDezI certainly trust Derek more given he provides actual information rather than just ranting on. I like Greg for ranting, and Derek for actual information.
@@LouDez Care to elaborate? I fail to see Derek in such way, other than the Turk incident anyway. Would love to hear a couple examples
Dude, give it up.... it just looks sad now. It's not a thing. Never was, never will be.
He has no shame!
have you guys tried it? It certainly had great results for me.
Give it up? He sold out every single time😂 you havent tried it and come here hating. Your life must be sad little man 😂
@@breyden9363
You’re literally the only one in this comments section I’ve seen saying that. I took Turk for half of 2023 and nothing happened. Waste of time and money. Protein, creatine, peps and 3 SARMs are what I stick to.
Turk is useless.
I've had pretty decent results myself.
Greg, Derek finally posted a new Tren related bedtime story today. There’s literally nothing you can say to make me side with you over him.
Greg stirring up some conflict...he loves it.
is that ok with you?
People still actually taking turkerysterone 😂😂😂😂
Yup studies prove it works. Not as well tested as creatine, but it does work thats why WADA is conducting testing on it
I see the Internet has taught people. It doesn’t pay the bills to mind your own business. The big money is in creating and maintaining drama 🎭 😂
Tell that to Sam Sulek
still going on about turkesterone, jesus
If he wasn't making money from it he'd drop it. And peddle some other bs.
Eduard Isenmann et al. 2019 looks at past studies and conducts their own on ecdysteroids. THE RESEARCHERS THEMSELVES SAY: “Our results strongly suggest the inclusion of ecdysterone in the list of prohibited substances and methods in sports”
@@havocmg banned or not it still does nothing enjoy throwing your money away
@@AB-su7jt I give you a study with researchers who know more about how it works than me and you SAYING they should ban it, and you gave me that sorry low iq ass response? Terminate your channel 😭
@@AB-su7jt Bro said “nuh uh” 😭
Greg is *scamming* harder than last time
Did you test it and didn't worked for you?? What was your experience with it??
@@CrAzY_JoK3r_PRdon't buy it...
What do you expect from someone convicted for selling steroids to kids..
So then Derek is super scamming everyone?
@@SsdistJejewhat's wrong with you 💀
I’ve only put on ~6 lbs in 2 months; however, my recovery has been amazing, my endurance has increased and the best part is that I’ve increased in the 3 big lifts significantly (deadlift 30 lbs, bench press 25 lbs, and barbell squat 60 lbs) since starting taking it, all while increasing my calorie intake and decreasing my bf percentage. I thought it was just a placebo effect at first but i don’t think a placebo would last this long…
“buy mine, just to test it and see if it works. It won’t work, but at least you bought it to test it”.
Bro, we can even prove whether you bought it. I'm trusting Greg with this one
Crazy how we can launch rockets and land them safely but we cant grow a plant outside a special region of Uzbekistan because their reaserch said so 🤔
I mean… wasabi root is only grown in one river and a very few select farms
Yeah, like how tropical plants can't grow in the Arctic and vice versa. This is like comparing apples to an iPhone. Brain, the least used organ in bodybuilding.
@@rsvpurgtWe all know there's only little part of Uzbekistan where is hot and the rest of this planet is literally a snow desert. No place on Earth with similar weather/soil
@@zachsmcl naturally. There are commercial farms in many other places when they grow it.
Greg got so much backslash when he was selling the original Turk builder, but he acknowledged the (imo honest) mistake, rebranded the product to Ecdy builder, did his homework, found how to get actual turkesterone, managed to source it, relaunched the product, had it tested and proved that it is what it is supposed to be. So far Greg is the only one who was fully transparent, acknowledged the problem and went above and beyond to fix it. And none of the haters who were criticizing Greg before have the integrity to acknowledge his achievement. Bravo Greg. Wish you all the best.
Turkesterone actually rotted Greg's brain
I have used Derek's Ecdysterone for a long time. I tried one bottle of the turk from him before all the news happened a while ago about no turk found in the products. I always found the Ecdysterone to work while the Turk did not feel like I did anything noticeable. So I will take the challenge. I just purchased your Turkesterone and will compare my results and how I feel.
lmao, you took the bait. 300IQ right there
@ivangerginov5648 No, because I still ordered my normal ecdysterone from Derek. For less than $60 with shipping included using the discount code, it is not a huge risk. I looked at his lab testing, and I do not believe Greg would make that same mistake a second time and place his reputation on the line. My question is not if I believe it is real turkesterone this time, but what if any differences I can see in my body composition and workouts.
@@TheAgelessAthleteany result it’s my day 3 on Turk, first day I noticed my pump was looking extra good, got extra vein showing, even got a compliment, and today is my day 3 I haven’t hit the gym yet since it’s my rest day I notice my arm looks a slight better
How's the turk
Derek just posted a video about a guy on meth and roids getting arrested. not near as off the rails as a coach Greg rant.
Pushing Turk harder than last time. On brand, I respect it
Greg, nobody besides you with any legitimacy in the industry says this stuff works. Just give it up.
Basically the specie of turkesterone you find in China, Korea, Japan is called "ajuga ciliata". While Tajikistan and Uzbekistan specie is called "ajuga turkestanica". Seems like every specie has different effects on our body. If you buy those 2 species and try them you can notice they have different effects.
Where can i get this kind of info? You seem to know a lot about this.
@@AblancVeintidos-iq1nh I don't know that much. You can check the different "ajuga" species on wikipedia. Then when you buy a turkesterone supplement you just check the label to see which ajuga specie it's been used for that supplement.
I tried the 2 I mentioned in my first comment and I noticed the difference.
1 was like almost nothing is changing.
The other one was like I was more energetic, but not a huge difference. You can have the same feeling when you start taking creatine or L-car.
So MY conclusion is that stacking works the best. Creatine + turkesterone + tongkat ali, for example.
Daddy please stop fighting with Daddy. I love you both equally.
You're too old to be saying that. Even jokingly
@@KingRobbStark nope. I can joke all I want. Keep your bullshit rules to yourself.
@@KingRobbStark Yea, what he said.
Turkesterone might be THE biggest waste of money in the whole industry.
I consider trying it until I read shit like this😂 then I'm like yeah I have bills, 3 kids, and a wife. I can't afford to just waste anymore money.
@@jmaverick9337 Not only wasting money but playing with your health when people rely on you.
greg going all in turk, this will either save or destroy his channel
He’s got absolutely nothing to “save” because he never was in danger in the first place… he is doing great.
He seems crazy confident.
House was mortgaged on turkesterone collateral 😂
@@edwisongogo6326More confident than last time
Or neither
Bought it a month ago…and I finished the whole bottle notice slight strength increase and muscle striations didn’t change my diet or nothing goood stuff really.
Lashing out harder than last time, not acting like somebody that has skin in the game and is lying at all
Been taking it for 3-4 months or so, never took the old formula everyone complains about was a scam, so didn’t have any preconceived notions about that. I feel a difference in strength, output and hunger.
Any bloodwork done?
@@fran2911 no, haven’t gotten my bloodwork done. But more background: Natural otherwise, was about 168lbs last year at this time. And was maintaining 166-170 until earlier this year.
Didn’t consciously bulk, weights 3-4x/week plus lots and lots of cardio.
can’t remember last time I was below 175. Was probably 13% bf for most of last year. Currently 178-181 everyday and a very similar bf% 11-14.
Ight boys and gals, Ill be your guinea pig for this one. I just placed my order for Turk Builder and will be documenting everything from the good and the bad and I will let you decide if it is worth it or not. Once it arrives ill start the review. DISCLAIMER I am not affiliated or sponsored. Im just your average joe who wants to put on a ton of muscle without the side effects of actually doing Tren or the like.
Bro where are you going to post the results? I need to know... you are a hero btw
Results ?
He died
@@GhGh-gq8oo😂
Yow u still a live
I notice a difference, pumps are fuller and I feel stronger. I also feel more aggressive in the gym. Just took 10 days off from it while traveling, I missed it while lifting at the hotel, looking forward to taking some before the gym this week.
greg be cookin
😄😄 I FUCKING CALLED IT. In Greg's last video I commented that this was going to be the next fitness influencer beef and that Greg was going to start it.
It’s almost like predicting if the sun will rise in the morning 😂
Greg lost his fucking mind after the ally breakup or something, hes been posting weird shit ever after
What does that even mean like how has he lost his mind ?@jheimala
@@jheimalayeah I noticed the change too 😂 hes like a 150% extreme version of himself
I’m much more impressed with how you managed to use the F word and not get it taken down by RUclips. I can’t even say the word dumb without RUclips taking it down or giving me a warning.
I've been lifting for more than 10 years and built an amazing physique. I did take steroids a couple years ago. But I will have to admit that Turk has been the closest thing to steroids in terms of results. I feel like turkesterone is way better than creatine. In fact, the money you waste with it, it's totally worth it.
Faster then last time
no
than*
baiting the haters faster than last time
Some way, some how, he needs to gain more views/clicks right❓️ 😂
Lol me too though. I trust in Greg, but that last split of nonsense had me thinking. And even though I don't know fore sure I trust that last bit. Now is a slightly different story, I want him to be on the up and up.
@@philipschofield7105 why do you want him to be on the up and up
are you living your life through him?
is your life so empty that you place your faith on a sleazy pos
@aaronhenderson84 what does that mean exactly?
what are you trying to say?
Been on Turk builder for about 6 months now. Definitely put on a few lbs of noticeable muscle 💪🏽
Greg’s Turk is 100% effective I can vouch that. I’ve never taken sarms, Turk or anything prior to trying it so maybe it’s my tolerance not being the best for these types of supps but I have seen strength and physical change in only 2 weeks so far.
More drama than last time!
Thanks for putting out this video. Most of the Turk out there is bunk. It sucks that most companies wont do their due diligence and post quality lab test results. It's sad to see Derek being a scumbag like that.
Got any good recommendations for Turk??
Even if Turk is a placebo it sure works for me. I prefer it to creatine because I don’t feel bloated all the time and have more energy
Derrick is quiet as a church mouse.
Greg instigating harder than last time
I've used other companies turk pills and they felt like they did diddly squat. But I recently bought a bottle of Gregs turkbuilder to give it a shot so we'll see how it goes. Hella expensive so I'm hoping it at least does more than what a caffeine pill would do.
How Greg’s stuff working so far??
Hey Greg, you should go to Uzbekistan and do a documentary on the production of turk.
Facts: Law enforcement says when suspects touch their face when questioning, they are lying. Someone that has a lot of product and can't sell it 😂😂
Louder than last time.
Coach Greg. I’m gonna put YOUR product to the test. I’ve hit a plateau in the gym and in body composition. I will take your Turk Builder for 60 days. I will come back to this comment in 60 days to report my results. Although I will need to research the dosage I should use.
So, you’re turning on Derek now? You really are a little weasel.
doucette would crawl over broken glass for money
selling out on a "friend" is nothing to him
he is an empty soulless pos
Biggest red flag for me was when Derek made his initial video on turk he said it was very hard to source. In his follow up video addressing ND he said actually it's complexing it with cyclodextrin that takes a long time. I knew most of the stuff on the market was bunk when it went from out of stock at a few places to everyone and their mother selling it.
I still take an ecdy based muscle builder and see great results from it every time (when it's in stock 😂) and it's good to see Greg has 3rd party testing to back his product up
if its only in uzbekistan who came up with idea its effective on 1st place
The reason ecdysteroids never made it on WADA's prohibited list is that they don't work. They don't interact with androgen receptors in humans. Ecdysteroids interact with the estrogen receptor beta. This might still seem interesting for hypertrophy purposes until one realises that soy isoflavones do exactly the same thing and that soy isoflavones don't get you very jacked.
Snake oil salesman vs Snake oil salesman. Love it!
It does indeed work. And I take with many other supplements from other brands. Put in the work and you’ll see recovery strength the works. Thanks for going the extra mile Greg
They try sell sand in the desert
You know what I noticed on turkesterone? Because it's expensive, I went to the gym more, got more sleep and ate better as to not waste it on poor training. Unsurprisingly physique improved. Was it the turk? Probably not.
Placebo.
@@IronWarrior86
Not sure it was even placebo. I just worked out harder so I didn't waste the supplement.
@@Alidwee1 That's what it means. Placebo effect.
@@IronWarrior86
I know what a placebo is but I'm disagreeing. I consciously changed my diet and exercise. If I didn't change my diet and routine and still noticed an improvement, that might be placebo effect, but that's not what happened.
You slept more?? That’s so weird Dereks ecdy cut my sleep in half. I had more energy despite getting less sleep though which I find extremely weird
Turkesterone dose is equivalent to 5mgs anavar, what a joke.
Look into the research bud WADA doesnt put things on the watchlist for fun. Its not just WADA, there are researchers that strongly advise these regulatory agencies to include ecdysteroids as “anabolic agents”
@@havocmgYou literally didn't disprove anything and just parroted the same thing he said.
@@duty5127 And you didnt respond to those points. Researchers who understand the mechanisms of action and conducted experiments urge the regulatory agencies to ban ecdysteroids
I’ve tried both and that’s actually a good comparison definitely not better than 10mg of anavar though
@@duty5127 Parroting the same stuff that you’re dodging. Can you give me a time stamp where Greg specifically talks about research on turk? You cant bud
Stil hyping this 😂😂
Coach Greg promoting his products harder than last time
Honestly Greg, I am a life time natty at 34, near peak size, still growing very slow, I gave been training 16 years, I would try both yours and Dereks but longevity is very important to me and I don't see any long term studies available. Can you show me if there are Greg?
Coach Greg hitting you with a double dog dare harder than last time 😂
You have multiple 1 star reviews saying it does nothing on your site
if i get 100 likes i hop on
You Canadian dudes are wild😂
I feel like I just watched this video a couple days ago lol.
That was a Sam Sulek video 😂
Just another sales push. 😂
SHIT MADE THE BACK OF MY ARMS BREAK OUT LIKE CRAZY NEVER AGAIN
Frl ? Yo that means it frl working that’s high testosterone side affect are u being dead ass?
Ordered faster than last time
Send me a bottle of this shit you talk about it more than last time.
But 5-15% turkesterone is still not 99-100% turkesterone
What a waste of money and am sure its bad for your health.
did it not work for you?
I'm no fan of turk but Greg has a point about Gorilla Mind's lack of actual testing. Not just for Ecdy/Turk. A lot of Derek's other supplements under the "Third Party Testing" section have a self input "Result by Input" as well. For example, Gorilla Shroom has no actual testing results, but the paper claims it has mg for mg, exactly 3200mg Lions Mane but who knows how much is in it or even what the extract is standardized for.
Send me some Turkebuilder Coach Greg and so i can test it and i give you an honest review 😂
I know you're joking around but it's a great idea. If Greg believes so much in it. He has the time and money to find a normal guy who works out and eats mostly clean. To experiment on and track the progression/results over an extended amount of time. He could film/document it and show the world. Will he... probably not. But it would be fun to watch. Not saying one guy will make everyone believe. But it would be a start to some credibility of this product.
I was legit thinking the same thing. I been working out for 17 years. All natural. Very into in nutrition. And would be interested to see the results with taking Greg’s Turk
What Derek is doing is misleading, he should rename Turk-Plex to Ecdy-Plex like you did with your previous product.
I'll help everyone. It's all junk.
yeah, why take supplements at all... we all look like mike o'tren anyways
Yep just as worthless as creatine and protein powder because those have never had positive feedback from countless studies either
@@aaron_d_henderson1984 What I am saying is its just another BS supplement. Shit or get off the pot and use Test like everyone else.
How can you help? Seriously?
@@chriswest8989 I just told you, the shit is junk.
Turk Builder struggling to sell....
Lets make a video and pretend its flying off the shelves😂😂
You're a good salesman Greg. A bit like a used car salesman. I'd never trust a word they have to say though!
A business man trying to sell you a scam 😂
I have Derek's Turkesterone right now. Currently taking 3 caps a day. Two 1 hr before gym, and one with my post workout meal.
So are there any reliable non-bias reviews on RUclips testing Gregs Turk? Id imagine greg would have made like 5 videos reviewing those reviews but he hasn’t. Also Greg people don’t believe you because last time you said all of this your Turk ended up being something completely different and what did you do? Deflect the blame.
Plot twist, Greg is just baiting Derek to finally upload more consistently
Gotta pay for that McLaren somehow 😂
Why is no one other than greg and some bots saying this works?
That bottle of turk is smaller than last time 😂