Simagic Alpha MINI Test/Review!
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- This Wheel/pedal bundle was sent to me by Simracingpros.com and approved by Simagic for review purposes. Thank you to both for this awesome opportunity!
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I enjoy this one bro 😁
It is really enjoyable to watch your energy 🤛
Thanks man! I'm sure my energy is not always appreciated throughout my life but for making videos it seems to work out in my favor. ;)
@@DouglasThompson I believe your energy keep the people who really appreciate your personality and that’s what really matters!
Those who can’t take it they definitely don’t deserve to be around you 😃
I have few friends who are just like you , direct and honest and that is gold and privilege to be surrounded with that energy!
They criticize the shit out of me and I f…. Love that 😁
@@chepilevski lol I'm not sure I feel you need criticism but I'm glad you appreciate it! By the way your videos keep getting better. I think your channel will definitely explode anytime now. Do you struggle to get through RUclipss algorithm as well? Many people say they don't get notified of my newest videos and they said they have never seen my channel suggested. Do you hear the same?
@@DouglasThompson absolutely the same here bro 😂
Sometimes I feel RUclips doesn’t recognize my content at all and never push it but honestly I’m not really wary about it !
I’m doing my best with the content and just try to express myself trough those videos and help if possible the community and that slow growth is actually what I really prefer as the people who stick around are those who really care and feel the content ❤️
If some video explode will be creat but most of the times those are not quality views and I don’t want to care about numbers which will be very bad for the future ( dopamine) remember 😂😂😂
I’ve seen channels growing quickly because of RUclips algorithm help but eventually views goes down at some point and so many people give up !
We are on the right path bro !
Just enjoying what we do and sharing passion with the beautiful sim community 🤗 the rest is numbers which have nothing to do with happiness 😁
@@chepilevski That's a great perspective, I do feel we both deserve more recognition for the work we put in but you're right, the viewers that stick with us are to be cherished for their loyalty and continuous support.
G923 user here and I've been on the fence of what to order for my DD upgrade. Simagic alpha mini has been on my radar, It's good to hear a review from someone who has tried all the main dd wheels. Also good to hear that the mini is good for everything up to the open wheel cars. I think I will be ordering a mini from simagic.
It really is great, check my new 3 way video comparison to see what categories are important to you though!
Haven't watched this video yet. I got a defective csl dd, sent it back and got the alpha mini with gt4 wheel instead. Absolutely no regrets there, such superior quality imo. let's see what you think now.
I think you will be happy with what I say in the video! :)
This is most likely going to be my forever wheelbase when I finally get one. Would love to pair with a sparco and drive into the virtual sunset.
Great job. Love the honesty as always
i have mounted my alpha mini upside down because of the cockpit i have since day 1, and this is the first i heard of the blinding green led.
Lol that's a great solution!
A small swipe with a permanent marker pen over the light lense solves the blindness and still allows it to do its function, which is letting you know it’s still on.
The alpha mini has been tested at 13Nm by iRacing staff I believe. So a full 5Nm more than the CSL DD which is what made me go down that path. Good vid mate.
to my hands it was definitely noticably stronger. it's a great setup!
Isn't it more like 10Nm of steady torque & 13 at peak?
@@Sithhy maybe not sure
Awesome review! A shame they didn't send you the 'normal' wheel; it has much less buttons (just the right amount IMO).
1) @2:30: Wheel stop: you can set the 'hardness' of the wheel end stop in the Alpha Manager at "State" --> "LimitHardness"; settings are from 0 (very soft) to 4 (very hard).
2) The green power light is distracting; duct tape to the rescue! lol
I messed around with the hardness but felt the standard setting was the best and most realistic. ;)
good info though, I forgot to mention that!
Good to see us sim racers are getting another great base for choice. Man compared to 5 years ago, sim racing has suddenly gained so much traction.
Hope sim magic does well and in turn pressure companies like Fanatec and Thrustmaster into give us better products.
I think Fanatec and Thrustmaster can't ignore the competition, you can only ride on your own coattails for so long before you trip yourself up! ;)
@@DouglasThompson right now I'm still Fanatec loyal because they're the only one with DDs that is compatible with Playstation. The moment someone else comes out with a PlayStation compatible DD, they're gonna be in big trouble.
@@LemtemPoktui Thrustmaster to the stage. ;) Hopefully they knock it out of the park, Fanatec needs some console competition.
Great video Doug. I love my Mini! Also have the E-stop, P2000 pedals (long accelerator pedal and 200kg LC) , GT4 wheel, and a GT1 wheel. Looking to upgrade to an Alpha One soonish
Oh man! Your alpha mini will sell quick! It's hot now.
Great video, thanks for sharing. Making me feel uneasy about the Fanatec set I have on order!
not my intention, be proud of whatever you get your hands on, all three are a great choice and have their own unique strengths.
Tbh the csl dd pro to me felt stronger then the mini. Just like my new dd+ has more then my 15nm alpha. The csl dd pro doesnt have the ffb details my dd+ has. The dd+ reminds me of an asetek had a baby with simucube. There are 0 like 0 drop offs 100% center force at all times except cor when losing grip which is as it should be.
Hope you get to try the new clubsport dd/dd+ someday soon! It will surrpise you. Fanatec finally made a wheelbase at the modern level for dd. It reminds me of there goated belt driven csw v2.5 meaning top of the class for the category. I get why it stole the sim expo show lol.
Something to keep in mind hweel rim sizes and thinness add to ffb feelings. So wheel rims matter the f1 sttle or gt style rim you used here was gonna add more ffb. Or the feeling that is.
Yes indeed, wheel weight as well can deaden ffb some too. Great to hear about the FFB improvements from Fanatec. As I said many times in the past, I'd still be happy with my csl dd if I didn't have the opportunity to try all these other bases.
Super great review dude, glad to know that simagic products are even better than fanatec. A lot of people out there ignore/don't give a chance about simagic due to it being a china product and that's really sad. Enjoy the DD doug! Looking forward to your settings for RBR! Cheers!
Ya man, I'm not fond of all the hate China receives. It is borderline racist how some generalize china as a country that produce nothing but poor quality products when there are many forward thinking, quality products coming from China.
@@DouglasThompson china is "yuge"
Huge amount of garbage, but also a huge amount of gems. Would be much easier to siff trough if u could speak Mandarin or Cantonese. Lots of potential over there. Also many Korean customers for simagic and other Chinese sim products, but they dont make vids or posts in English.
I think the language barrier for getting information on some hidden gems might be the reason. Along with preconceptions.
@@TheInsaiyan I agree, there are garbage products all over the world but as you said there is Yuge potential everywhere. Language barriers are definitely a YUGE factor. I'm happy to help show off a couple gems in this video! ;)
I absolutely love the value and quality of the sim magic products. Their wheels are amazing and the qr is industry leading. The issue has always been that they have always been an i racing queen. They always feel amazing in i racing and maybe one other random sim, but it’s always a battle to get the ffb dialed in on other titles.
If they would improve this aspect of their product performance I would sell my dd1 and all of my fanatec gear in a heartbeat for an alpha and the gt4 wheel.
I agree ffb does seem a bit more across the board with the Fanatec but it is still possible with the Simagic. ;)
@@DouglasThompson I have a good friend with the alpha and he has fruitlessly spent the better part of year trying to get it to feel as good as my dd1 in acc. It is fantastic in iracing but awful in ams 2 and acc. There r messing details everywhere…. Recent updates have supposedly improved the situation to a point but he still maintains that it doesn’t feel right in both of those titles.
@@gulfcoaster210 I'm sorry to hear that, I don't play ACC so I wouldn't know, thank you for letting me know and letting others know so they can make it informed decision when purchasing one.
@@DouglasThompson I believe it is a fairly common complaint in the simmagic community. They r very high quality products that are certainly worth consideration, but the software/firmware still lacks a bit of refinement in my admittedly limited experience with both the alpha and m10
This is the absolute con of these new companies. They still don't have the right support to all games. I have ALL the sims, and I play them on a costant rotation. So my wheel has to work fine with all my games. This is the only reason why at the end , I will not buy any of these wheels. At least until they will solve this problem. And another huge problem... Console compatibility. I play 80% on PC, but still there is that 20%... And to satisfy all that you have no choice : Fanatec or Thrustmaster (or Logitech if you can't afford these).
My biggest concern with the Mini was the relatively small eco system they currently have. Both of thir round wheels don't even have a funky switch/D pad and that's pretty much a deal breaker for someone who wants to navigate a menu when using VR. There have also been concerns of heat in the wheelbase, but that's just anecdotal.
I mean you can map buttons but I agree, all sim racing wheels should have a directional stick.
just use the wheel you currently do then . the ecosystem or the fact that you aren’t tied to one is a plus not a negative
@@kuku6031 I'm not too sure I understand your comment. With the Simagic, you can either use their wheels with integrated button boxes (3, round, d, and F1/GT3) or you are relegated to a standard wheel with an NRG style quick release only (no button box).
As such, if you want a wheel with a button box, you have 3 options, and 2 of those options don't even have a funky switch/d pad. For my use case, mostly VR, a d pad is essential as it's very difficult to keep taking the headset on and off to find my keyboard and mouse to navigate a menu.
@@silveretchedsoul any wheel that can connect to the pc via usb will work. i’ve got a usb adaptered thrustmuster wheel on my Alpha mini with a D1 spec qr
D shaped wheels are good if you have a gut. Great review.
Thank you for an example of why they are useful! :)
I think my comment got deleted for including a link, an iracing developer measured the force of the mini it's actually 13nm not 10nm. You should see comment with the link to the source if you check the deleted comments! This is really why it feels so much more detailed than the CSL DD with boost, it's literally almost twice as powerful.
It doesn't feel like 13 NM to my hands. Perhaps they patched it to be lower output on mine? The detail is amazing though!
@DJ you are correct. It seems like most sims have adjusted some things to make curbs and crashes milder with dd wheels. Crashing in rfactor2 with the mini is very violent. It definitely has some power.
@@____________________ok That's actually great to hear. I had all my parts for a small mige build in a cart when the csl dd was announced. So then I was deciding between the csl, mige, and vrs when the mini was announced. Mini sounded perfect to me, so I ordered one as soon as they were announced. I'm very happy with it, and have no buyers remorse or plans to upgrade.
Regarding the price: It’s actually cheaper than a CSL DD if you’re not in the Fanatec ecosystem already (and have a wheel). In fact, if you add the boost kit to the CSL DD, the Alpha Mini is cheaper by the time you have to add adapters, mounting options, etc to the Fanatec. The devil is in the details, and with Fanatec, it’s always the damn accessories!
Yep...they lure you in with the "full setup" but then you realize how much more you actually want from the experience. Lol
0:17 now that's the sound I want my neighbors to hear! Noice!
lollll
Lol I'm sure my neighbors hate all the clicks and clacks.
wheel base only purchase does come with a quick release my guy. you can choose between 70/50 pcd.
Nice! Thank you for letting me know, wonder why they wouldn't just get rid of the 50, in that case...seems pointless.
Just checked it out, that brings the price up to 700... Lol
They need to just get rid of the 50mm option, it's just a waste.
Glad you mentioned the 50mm instead of 70mm "bolt pattern" .QR Just got a mini and faced the same problem. After some research, I found a cheap qr that apparently is supposed to work 😂 fingers crossed
Ya I think it's the one of the wheelbases biggest flaws, honestly. Great base though, aside from that.
I bought the NRG QR gen 2.0 on Amazon and I was almost happy with it because the male portion of the QR was wider in diameter and the screw holes will not fit but the female snugs to the base tho I had to twist and turn the collar so the ball bearings snaps into place and pushes down the collar to lock. Thanks!
Ya man, all the 10 ball NRG type qrs seem to work just really annoyed they went with a 50mm pattern over a 70 or 70/50 pattern.
@@DouglasThompson Apparently I can make it work with a 70mm male part but I have to buy a 3D printed converter 50mm to 70mm according to one of the members in the Facebook owner page by Simagic. I'll just use it to mount the wheels on the wall... Cheers!
I bought the csl DD and today received a. Email saying the shipment will delay till February 28th, so I'm waiting for your review of the 3 wheel bases to see if I cancell my csl DD order
Thank you much for trusting me. I will do my best to give a clear picture of what each wheelbase offers and how they stack up.
I’m in the exact same boat :( I’m not interested in waiting til March for my csl DD.
@@SurneySingh Wait till tomorrows video! I think it will help people decide.
With my VRS I've come to notice the amount of road surface detail you pick up and the strength of the steering stops are directly affected by the FFB percentage. And that's where the higher nm wheels are worth their money. I honestly wish I could crank it up without having to deal with the violent tank slappers.
Ya it's nice to have extra headroom...I don't disagree.
@@____________________ok it has smoothing, damping, friction, inertia, spring, and max force.
This video got me in another rabbit hole and when I began seeing people having faults with the CSL DD that was the last straw. I’ve requested an order cancellation, hopefully they see it before it gets dispatched! So now I’m in the market, and the alpha mini is looking good!
Can you explain the “with quick release” and “without quick release” options on their website? I’d be looking to buy a omp/momo rim and mount it to the alpha mini base as cheap as possible…
I think if you get without quick release, it is just a stem that you can buy any adapter you want to fit a standard pattern hub.
Also, before you make any decisions, I recommend you wait to see my comparison between the csl DD, Cammus DD and the alpha mini. You might like some things better about the other wheelbases.
I canceled my CSL DD and went VRS. The only remorse I feel is the difficulty getting it to work with Forza (and only Forza, every other title worked perfectly). Fanatec is the only direct drive that Forza bothered to integrate (which could change). Still possible to make other wheels work with an emulator though.
So really no regrets for me. I don't think it even cost much more after all the money I saved not having to buy fanatec steering wheels and hubs.
@@Shakshuka69 yep. And forget it if you want buttons and paddle shifters...lol that's like 500 dollars plus however much the rim costs.
@@DouglasThompson plus a 1-3 month lead time and an iffy qr system that they will soon improve and charge you just another $200+ and you better hope your old wheels are compatible otherwise 😬
@@Shakshuka69 yes indeed!
Cool video. I'm surprised you said the mini has more ffb detail than the cammus. I thought it would be the opposite. Looking forward to an RBR settings video, so I can compare mine to yours.
The Cammus feels a bit more rounded in the force feedback you can't squeeze as much small detail out of that wheelbase but it makes up for it with the extra power/headroom! :)
I believe the cammus has a stepper motor like simagic's old m10 which got replaced by the alpha mini.
It's a servo motor. ;)
so if i got this wheel base and i got myself a wheel from ebay and a quick release it will fit?
You will have to get a specific 10 ball NRG type but yes it should work.
I'm currently selling my expensive simucube base/wheel collection, and replacing it with simagic everything.
This company is on a good curve it seems.
They make some great feeling stuff.
What wheel do you have mounted to that Camus quick release? I’m looking at buying a Simagic, but they only stock alcantara at the moment. I’d like to swap it for a leather one exactly like that.
The Cammus wheel/base combo comes with that leather wheel. ;) The wheel w/ button box, paddle shifters and quick release is only 200 dollars for all of it.
@@DouglasThompson It looks like they’ve stopped selling it individually. In fact, it looks like the current wheel is completely different and only available in the full kit. Such a shame.
@@MrBfJohn you can't buy just the rim from them I don't think but you would need a Cammus wheelbase anyway for the button box to work since they use a different pin arrangement.
damn this video sealed the deal for me, much love Douglas! You got any hood pedal recommendations to go along?
Budget?
@@DouglasThompson about $500-600
I forgot to ask on cammus mod video ;( , higher chances you'll notice it here. That amazon 30$ quick release, can it fit directly on cammus/simagic wheelbase side quick release? I've seen people put aliexpress comments that it's compatible with simagic and accuforce
No the super cheap quick releases I showed off are 8 ball bearing types. The standard Cammus and Simagic QR's are 10 balls.
The Simagic is not compatible with the cheap 8 ball quick releases at all unless you stack one we on top of another...lol
@@DouglasThompson I use the cheap qr's on my mini. Only takes a few minutes to drill new holes to match the motor side hub. Then use all the cheap wheels and qr's you like. The simagic power line simply unplugs.
@@jonmartin2624 You mean you drill holes in the QR?
@@DouglasThompson I can't post a link to my picture. The cheap qr's come with the wheel side qr, and the motor side 70mm hub. Take the simagic wireless hub off, line it up with the new 70mm cheapie hub (a piece of 3/4" copper plumbing is the same size as motor shaft and works great to line up both hubs) drill Simagics 50mm hole pattern onto your new hub, and install it on the base. Now you can by all the cheap qr's and wheels you like.
How did you get RBR to recongize the Simagic wheel? I'm having issues where it won't recognize my wheel.
Usually you have to set a wheelbase to like 90° and spin it fast when mapping and delete all prexisting bindings too so it only focuses on the base.
@@DouglasThompson Perfect, thanks!
A big question here: did you ever manage to make the Simagic Alpha Mini work in Project cars 2 or Automobilista 2? It never works for me. Very difficult to even assign and calibrate, have to reduce the rotation to tiny angles. But even after that, in game there is 0 movement from the wheel. All the buttons are recognized, even axis of the paddles, but not the rotational axis. Tried with all settings I could on the Simagic software and in game, same result in both of those games.
Never had those games when I had the base. Bit try using the thrustmaster or Logitech profiles or vigorously go back and forth to get the rotation to calibrate.
Do you know if the Alpha mini works well in AM2 these days?
I like that GT4 wheel
It's VERY nice but it's also 600 something dollars...lol
I do feel it's quality but I can't imagine paying wheelbase prices for a wheel...
@@DouglasThompson I first time I got a delay email from Fanatec for the CSL DD I thought about cancelling the order and going with the Alpha Mini but the $600 wheel and $800 pedals was enough to frighten me away and stay with Fanatec but yet I end up spending $3700 🤣🤣🤣
How much did you pay for the quick release? I've been wanting a simmagic alpha mini, and being able to just use my current wheel with a quick release allows me to just get the base which is much more reasonable in price than the base + simagic wheel
Simagic sent all this for review, I dont get to keep these things...I probably also have to pay to ship it out...lol
@@DouglasThompson oh I see, I thought the quick release was just a generic one
NRG quick release suite with simagic cost around $40
What do you mean by suite?
Awesome review dude. Any chance you got links to that specific wheel and quick release you have? I play RBR on a G920 and looking for a DD upgrade to the Alpha Mini
You talking about the one in this video or the one from my mod video? The wheels and quick releases I'm featuring in this video are a Simagic gt4 and a the standard qr and wheel from Cammus. You can buy the wheel setup for 200 dollars with the button box included but it will only work (button-wise) with a Cammus connection but it will of course connect correctly by way of the quick release as demonstrated in this video. A cheaper option would be to get the cheapest 10 ball NRG quick release with any 70mm hub wheel rim on your chosen website.
I can direct you towards a setup that would be similar to this one if you would like.
@@DouglasThompson thanks for the response. Specifically I’m interested in that cheap NRG qr and wheel you mentioned in this video. I mostly do Rally and want to get into drift so I’m not too sure I need any fancy buttons on my wheel. I’ll look into the Cammus bundle you’re mentioning but I just loved the simple look of that wheel you showed at 6:59
Unfortunately, the cheap QR option I was talking about is only an option for the Cammus. Cammus is compatible with any 70mm we system but Simagic has chosen a 50mm pattern.
You can still buy like 70 dollar NRG quick releases if you consider that cheap but I switched to a 25 dollar quick release for my Cammus wheelbase so I could have a ton of quick releases for little investment. You could drill out and tap a 50mm pattern on the cheap QR, is that something you would be willing to do? If so I can link the 25 dollar qr I use.
Nice review! Does the base get hot? Just wondering because the CSL DD has these big cooling fins and this base is even smaller while having even more torque.
From what I can gather it runs cool
@@gulfcoaster210 In the beginning there were reports of the base getting hot (more than 80°C) with high damper settings IRRC.
@@nejcmirtic529 i remember hearing about the original alpha getting hot but hadn’t seen any reports of the mini getting hot
@@gulfcoaster210 Maybe it was the Alpha, not the mini. Might have mixed it up.
If I were to buy a DD now, I would probably still cough up that extra € to buy SC2 Pro... At the moment still on my CSW 2.5 and for 33 and 35 cm rims (13"-14") I find it a bit weak in some scenarios. Really like the budget option vs Fanatec and if I would be in a market for 10Nm would probably get the Alpha mini. But with 8 I already have, I am/would be looking at SC 2 Sport but in the end, I would most likely just say add those extra 200 and be done with it. No need to upgrade ever again...
And now that I am "stuck" with Fanatec gear I will probably lose about 400€ on the kit, so I will have to add another 700 to get the gear I would want instead of just 250-400 if I were to buy it in the first place. Was looking at SC2 Pro and BJ Steel mechanical pedals. The wheels I can make my own, I have neough materials and knowledge to create my own wheel button boxes. So the wheel prices don't scare me anymore. Went with Fanatec because I tought the rims would be cheaper than for the SC.... Well tough luck, no Podium Hub no FFB :(
It gets warm. I have everything set to 100 except spring and inertia I think. Never hot though.
Hi! I'm new to Rbr and for some reason I can't assigh my alpha mini for steering. Do you have any tips
I have a tutorial for this. Look up "rbr ffb fix" here ob youtube
I'm torn between the Sprints and these, here in Canada the price is the same, what would you recommend?
I have no experience with the Sprints but I know the Simagic pedals have a lot more adjustability and features. The sprints look more durable but also heavier if that means anything to your setup.
Are there other wheels, compatible with this wheelbase?
Like, Fanatec, Moza, Simcube?
I don't believe so. Maybe moza if any of those three were.
bro link for the round wheel? what size is? 330mm or 350?
The round wheel and QR was pulled off my Cammus wheelbase. Not sure where to buy one separately...sorry.
320mm
“Excuse me sir. Can I try out one of those direct drive wheel bases?” 😅
lol
@@DouglasThompson I literally just bought the Simagic USB GT4 rim from SimRacingPros 20min. ago. I hope they ship quick! :)
@@BGR_33 hope you mentioned my name! ;)
Simagic , Moza , csl DD ????? 1 , 2 and 3 ? Thinking about upgrading from my 2.5 fana . thx :)
All are great options, what is your budget and what are your main goals? Power, detail, compatibility etc?
@@DouglasThompson budget is good, Fanatec doesnt have anything to buy now for so long im tired of waiting tbh. I do Iracing , mostly GT 3 and 4 cars some ovals to with Nascar stuff. Was wondering which you tested and prefer ? Simucube is the top dog, but i have a hard time buying a wheel for 800 plus . I know people say there the best but dam $$$ Moza looks nice, simagic look nice also . Its a tough choice lol without actully trying them.
I have no experience with moza but they have really been impressing many users. I'm not sure if you have seen my comparison video throwing Cammus in the mix but there really isn't a better price to performance wheelbase out there if budget is of less concern. 500 dollars for 15nm
@@DouglasThompson yea i saw it, just trying to figure this wheel thing out lol. Thx :)
Man, the tiny CSL DD looks like a giant compared to this hahaha!..😂😂😂
Ya, I had no idea the mini was THIS mini. All the other reviews have made this wheelbase look bigger than it is.
@@DouglasThompson It can be really hard to judge from videos and pictures, but seeing it beside the CSL DD was useful!😁👌
If I had to guess, the GT wheel isn't full circle cuz gt racing rarely turns the wheel more than 180 in either direction, therefore negating the need for a full circle wheel. Weight is critical, so upper n lower parts of the wheel were removed. But I'm a scrub, so I could be wrong, just a hunch .
correct, was this comment in response to someone or to me?
in the video I said I'm not sure why they sent me a gt4 wheel as opposed to the full circle I had requested. is that what you were referring to? :)
@@DouglasThompson maybe my memory is shot, I thought you questioned why not a full wheel for gt. Don't put too much weight on it though, I forget my own birthday each year.
@@CypressWalker oh, I think I was talking shit about D shaped wheels lol.
@@DouglasThompson I hate when I don't get jokes
Doug
Here is my rig and as you can see I am currently using a Thrustmaster shifter in which I like the placement. However with this Next Level rig design I probably will have to do a side mount and extend the shifter knob on the Simagic sequential shifter unit. Amazon has a 4" extension bar and I ordered a thread pitch gauge to ensure that I have the correct pitch measurements. I will let you know how it all works out. ruclips.net/video/hz5gd0d9NhM/видео.html
Thanks for the help!
Gordon
Hello,
my Simagic Alpha mini will arrive in some days (hopefully) and I would like to know more about heat problems. I read the thread from 2021 and I was wondering if the base is still getting so hot that you cant touch it (with correct settings) or if over the year there was a software fix ? I wanna run this base for the next 5-8 years and I am wondering if constant overheating couldn't cause damage in the long run ? I also guess that you didnt have any issues with the base even if it's getting hot, which is good to hear, but the base was released 2 years ago (I think ?) so what will happen if we add another 5 years ? Of course there could always go something wrong and break that is not heat related, but I want to hear some opinions on the long term use, if this could be a good purchase or If I should consider something else. In my opinion the heat buildup to the point where you can't even touch the base is not normal. I had a CSL DD before and even after being in use for several hours I was always impressed that it was still cold (100% strenght, proper settings and no clipping). It is only 8NM but from what I have read, people with a mini and proper settings who turned down the strenght are still getting a very hot case. So I think if heat problems still exist, the cooling system is not well designed or the software is still not very good.
What do you think ?
I think that has been corrected. I didn't experience that but the people could have also had Faulty units. I know many users and they don't experience any heat issues that I know of. I think you will be fine, if not, I'm sure the retailer will take good care of you. :)
@@DouglasThompson alright, thank you for your fast answer, Im looking forward to it 😃
@@DouglasThompson one last question, if I understood it correctly, this is a cammus wheel what you are using ? Because I also want to buy a vheaper round wheel that fits on the alpha mini
@@firestorm587 yes the outdoor wheel is a cammus, I don't know if the hubs are still the same though. :)
@@DouglasThompson ok thanks 👌
Hi, i have GT4PRO and in the SimProManager only moves Clutch 2 bar. Clutch 1 doesn´t move.
I press left Clutch and then in the software SimPro the Clutch 2 bar goes to 50% and when i press right clutch in the whell, then in clutch 2 bar that was at 50% goes to 100%
But as i said, Clutch 1 in the SimPro doesn´t move.
Notice also that Sync Button don´t appear in the Simpro.
Does it all work in diview?
@03:52 Careful, the way you're playin with those switches, your wife might get jealous! 😉
I've honestly been wanting a comparison between this and the CSL DD..better detail and feedback..my wallet only has so much room! Lol
Coming soon!!! ;)
@@DouglasThompson I tried out some RBR in VR a few days ago, it was pretty neato burrito.
@@2leftgaming793 oh s***, does that mean we need to do some live paste notes in that game together?
@@DouglasThompson Lol, that could be just what the world needs! I definitely need more practice first.
@@2leftgaming793 I suggest using a very slow fwd or AWD car to get a feel.
Hey wondering what you think the new fanatic quick release gen 2 might be like?
I know what its like. its square and still sticky...lol
perhaps Ill do a video about it.
@@DouglasThompson please!
@@msalt19 I made a short video, it will be live the day after tomorrow. ;)
@@DouglasThompson do you think the price for qr gen 2 is going to be outrageous? You'll have to also upgrade the stem of the dds. Well whichever DD you have but with the way they've been pricing 180 watt power supply. I imagine the cost of the quick release and the stem will be more expensive than the CSL DD with boost kit. What are your thoughts?
@@msalt19 I'm thinking it will be 100+ per qr and the will probably sell the stem for like 75-80 is my guess. Maybe the "kit" for like 150
As good as this looks, it's lacking compatibility with every platform. I love Gran Turismo games, already have a PS5 for GT7. I race on PC too, but when it comes to platform compatibility, you're shoehorned into the Fanatec ecosystem. Hopefully we get a company in the future who will challenge Fanatec with regards to compatibility options. That's the main reason Fanatec are so successful, they brought their products to an untapped market. There is no other wheelbase that I know of that works on PC, PS5, XSX.
yep, Fanatec almost has a monopoly in the console space for high quality gear. Thrustmaster/Logitech need to release their answer to the CSL DD.
Can i use the QR70 with my cube controls f pro ?
Is it a USB wheel?
@@DouglasThompson it's both, usb and wireless
@@henkhenkos8647 I would think it would work then... I can't be sure though. :(
@@DouglasThompson ah okay thanks for the response, yeah my main concern is how to connect the wheel to the QR. Because i can use bluetooth or cable to connect it to pc so that should be no problem.
Hay Douglas . it's me again 😄 could you turn on Russian subtitles
Yes indeed!
Done! :)
Keep in mind I upload these videos for 6am and I wake up at 8am so I won't be able to upload the captions until I wake up. ;)
@@DouglasThompson Yes, sure. Thank you
Damn... Why? Why😢😥😥 now I'm back on the simagic direct drive or vrs 😩😫😫 so difficult. To many options.
Lol that's the SimRacing world we live in, you have to choose what's more important to you.
Cammus:
Price, NM, wheel mounting, base buttons, customer support.
Simagic: bigger name, ffb details, size
My choice is pretty clear but only you can make your mind up.
15nm for 500.00 is a pretty decent deal though ;)
You should have asked for them to send you the round wheel instead of the Vt one.
I did. ;)
they even asked me but they decided to send me this one for some reason, maybe they just made a mistake or maybe it was all that was available to send quickly. they did feel rushed to get something out to me since it was supposed to be here like a month ago. their shipping location got severely flooded and they weren't able to ship things for a good while though.
yea I bought a csl DD, then they deactivated my account and canceled my order. Very weird.. I called and they said it was for security reasons. Well, I'm so glad it was canceled, I did more research and found the alpha mini. The build quality seems to be a forever wheelbase. So, I ordered it instead. I'm getting out of Fanatec while I still can. I'm not heavily invested in that ecosystem.
Great choice!
Thanks for you post. I wanted to buy the simagic alpha too.
Do you know if the ffb detail is better now in Automobilista 2 and ACC?
How do you turn on the wheelbase? Do you use the switch on the cable or can you turn it on and off on the power supply or does the base have a standby function?
@@Pro-Bert I can't speak to ACC or Automobilista 2, but there is an interpolation dial in the sigmagic software which multiplies the ffb data it receives from the game. Yes, you turn the wheel on with the switch that is on the powersupply cable. For iracing, it performs really well, I don't even need irffb anymore because of the interpolation feature. I'm happy with it. :)
@@CraigHlavka Thank you. 🙂
Is this better or the Moza R12?
I don't have experience with the moza but I have heard nothing but good from them. What is your budget and racing goals?
@@DouglasThompson about 1000-1200, F1 22, corsa, iracing
Good points
Thank you!
Got this same wheel for $175 on eBay with tax and shipping it was $201
Great deal!
thank you
You're welcome
The lock degree rotation limit in my unit is super strong, must be becouse u like other settings, try fanalab settings, couse thats not a con for csl dd.
good to know you are satisfied with your wheel lock, it is definitely enough and all it needs to be but I maxed out all the settings and this was my impression. :)
At least your pronounced Tsukuba correctly lmao most people call it SOOKbUhh lmao
Lol I used to say "suu kooba" and I got corrected by a friend.
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Its not 13nm base ffs.
Nobody who has used the cs dd, moza r12, alpha mini and csl dd8nm, has daid this feeks like 13nm.
They say it feels exactly like 10nm.
That's what somebody measured it at with ffb testing software.
@@DouglasThompson at 10nm or 13nm? How can software possibly know what is being felt though?
Tbh I wish there was a more scientific and standardized way of testing this.
A torque wrench with the QR attached for example.
Yoi seemed to overpower it with ease, and said it felt a bit stronger than the csl dd but just a bit.
But its also channels like Boosted, who did say the mini feels somewhere between the csl dd and a 12nm base (may have been the cs dd or moza R12) which im pretty sure was the Moza R12.
Now others have said the mini felt just as strong as the R12 also. But the R12 probably holds around 9nm so that makes some sense.
It doesn't really prove the mini gives feedback above 10nm though.
I think the software in question was iracing. In which case setting it auto set to 13nm or something. This is more a reflection of iracing than the power of the mini motor though.
Let me ask you. You have used the cammus, so when capped at 13. Did you find it comparable to the mini in power?
The thing is its kinda hard to notice 2nm of difference when you're talking double digits.
Its less than a G29 on top.
Am I completely off track here?
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Give him/her the D!!! Lol
Hjello everyibodii 😂
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You’re an 8mm.
Lol
D is for dumb wheel
Thank you! :)