An interesting collection of CCD sensor cameras plus the vintage lumix. Familiar with Pentax K200D, Olympus E-300 and Nikon 200D all have their own virtues and some inherent idiosyncrasies. Agree on Olympus for convenient compact size and ease of use. Nikon 200D is a monster with great functionality. Pentax in my experience accurate colour rendition. Liked your cheerful positivity. Good video.
I read so many forum posts years ago, complaining about focusing issues with the 16-45. The Pentax is up there if it wasn't for those soft images. I can also recommend the Nikon D3000. I grabbed one, because it has the 10 MP D200 sensor. It also sits quite good in the hands, has a bigger Display and a way easier menu system than the semi pro model. A d200 in a D40 body. It's a sharp little shooter!
I have Nikon D70, D80, D200 in CCD land and 10.2mp Pentax K-m. I owned the Olympus e-300 when new and still have the e E-20 (5mp) which I bought on its release. Of these I would say the D200 is the best camera if you want to exploit the vast back catologue of F series lenses as you can save up to 10 AI or AI-S manual lens profiles and use them in most modes. The D80 or D40 are far more restricted as they don't support such lenses as they don't know and can't be told their maximum apperture (that's what I call the biggest hole size, call me old fashioned). The E-20 and e-300 (which I bought to replace the E-20 due to its glacial file writting performance) were able to deliver wonderfull and strikingly real world images but the highlight end of dynamic range was seriously limited and any significant recovery of the raws would introduce magenta hue into the whites. The four-thirds format is seriously restricted in lens availability compared to Pentax and Nikon or MFT. If you don't need to use manual vintage glass then the D80 is a great choice being smaller and especially lighter than the D200 but with similar image results. However.. the Pentax K-m being light, small (relatively) and above all.. having IBS makes it the choice to carry on most occasions. I use with the SMC 28-105 FA f4-f5.6 plus the SMC A 70-210mm f4 macro and SMC 50mm A f1.7 with the K-m. The K-m is not weather resistant unlike the D200 which somewhat is. If changing lenses is to avoided then I might take the K-m with 28-105 and D80 with Nikkor IS 18-55 mk2 kit lens plus either D700 (FX) with Nikkor 20mm f2.8 AI or if for landscapes the 24mp Nikon D5300 with Tokina ATX Pro 11-16mm f2.8 or Canon 5D mk2 with the Nikkor 20mm. I'd carry the SMC 70-210 in the bag for some stabilized longer lens subjects. Above ISO 400 switch the D200 to 1250 or so and B/W profile for great film like gritty grain stunners. If I can only carry one camera and need video too then it is the miniscule Oly OM-D E-M10 mk3 with Lumix 14-45mm G Vario f3.5-5.6 and a small collection of Zuiko film era primes with K&F adapter. This is (perhaps) the most enjoyable to shoot with.. even if not CCD gold. 😊
Of all the cameras I think the one that generally produces the best results is the Minolta if you use it in Raw and then develop it well, even though it only has 6 Mp it is quite impressive. I haven't used the 5D but I have used the 7D and even though I have many other modern cameras the Minolta continues to impress me with its colors. My everyday camera is a Sony A-7RIII but my favorites are the Sony A-900 and so as not to forget about composition, the 6Mp Minolta Dynax 7D which I have had since 2005 and still works. There is something special about CCD sensors that C-MOS sensors don't have.
Enjoyed your video👍, good comparisons,i also have one or two ccd cameras,i like them all they all have plus and minus,nikon d70 for me is the best all rounder,fuji s5 pro for picture quality, Pentax for funky colours,and Olympus e400 like Kodak colours and like you say a small, quality camera for carrying around,i shoot raw and find i hardly have to process ccd images,the cmos camera's i have i have to process them
Ho preso il mese scorso una e-300 Olympus, fantastica!!! Giusto ieri ho preso una 5D Minolta con tre lenti af dell'era analogica per capirci, non vedo l'ora che arrivi. Guardando il tuo video mi incuriosisce molto la lumix ma credo sia costosa, penso che per Natale mi regalerò la K10 o la D200. Grazie per il bel video
I don’t think LiveMOS is really a midpoint between CCD and CMOS. It seems to be panasonic’s brand name for NMOS sensors, which were just a competing technology to CMOS for making sensors on a normal semiconductor production line. They’re more similar to each other than they are to CCD. My E-520 has a 10mp LiveMOS sensor and it has some pretty gnarly pattern noise just like a lot of early CMOS sensors. My 8mp CCD E-500 has no pattern noise at all
I have a k10D. The colours are great. JPEGs are slightly soft but, I don’t use them. The RAW files are great. This was my first digital camera. It is capable of making excellent images and the range and quality of lenses available to it is immense. It is very well made. I bought a K-01 next and suddenly realised that the softness in my K10D is actually a back-focus issue. I was manual focusing for more critical work. I thought the K10D might have a setting in the menu to adjust focus but it doesn’t. I must get its autofocus calibrated to see what more I can get from it. The Pentax is a true photographer’s camera with very 3D rendering. It won a TIPA award when it was introduced so, it was a very strong offering at the time. It loves bright sunny days and flash. The files are good in Lightroom but with less dynamic range than a modern camera. The under exposure keeps details in the highlights. The big caveat however is that the images you shot in your can all be made very similar by Lightroom. You can even throw a modern CMOS camera into the mix and after editing make it hard to spot worthwhile differences. The RAW file is king and our finished edit is what counts. Modern cameras give better processed output that is more ready to go and the myth of CCD may not be as powerful as we imagine.
take a close look at the old forums about 10d. There is a program that is installed on a USB flash drive and you can make corrections. however, only for one lens
I used the d200 for some time. I found it in a hospital charity for very little as not working. I changed the batteries, replaced the broken glass and leathers, and in the end I resuscitated it fully. I used it with an 18-55 vr ii and a tamron 135mm 2.8 and it delivered very good results. I used it in the uk winter, with little light available and poor subjects and it never let me down in the countryside. I ended up selling it to a friend as I felt having more than 1 camera was redundant (i use Fujifilm) but overall i felt like i was using a proper and reliable dslr. I miss it dearly and if i only had nikon i would have treated it with some special f lenses. Ciao ragazzo
Sei bravo! Mi sono iscritto al canale soltanto perche mi piacce tanto la pizza. No, scherzo. Parlando sul serio, che ottimo confronto hai fatto. Capolaboro, con tutti i dettagli per confrontare. Congratulazioni, anche perché sei naturale e non sei in posa. Stavo proprio pensando ad una D200 per avere una camera CCD come complemento alla mia D700 e D3S. Sono ancora un po' emozionato per questo video e lo guarderò più volte, ma vedo che Sony aveva dei buoni colori, anche se a volte il cielo era un po' confuso. Sorpreso da Minolta e adoro lo stile da Lumix L1. Olympus non mi sorprende perché ho una EM5 per quando voglio andare leggero. Il tuo lavoro è interessante e non so come fai a non notare l'accento italiano quando parli inglese.🍕
Hi, I also have several of those , or similar. As with everything else, it's up to your preference, as a single thing you enjoy in a particular camera can overshadow everything else, and that one will become your choice. But as you, i take pictures with them all, and enjoy them one at a time.Of all my Oly E-400 broke- without being abused, and I damaged my E-3 , but now have E1 and E-620, both nice.
My first DSLR was the KM 5D then followed by the 7D. I just loved the color rendition of those compared to the clinical results in modern cameras. I used mostly Sigma lenses which of course further improved the warm, organic look of the images in most scenarios. About the massive Lumix body, it looks like the Fujifilm GFX 50R and that is medium format :-)
I've also have the Minolta 5d and the e400 . The. Colour and image quality of the e400 I find to be really good the kit len of the e400 is also really good. I got the 5d cheap as it has the first black frame issue but easy fix by just switching it off .
The K-10 (and Samsung GX-10) seem to have a serious back focussing issue. There is a fix (several in fact) and I would recommend looking them up. Personally, I became fed up with the issue and ultimately sold my camera on. I have the *istD at the moment which is the early 6MP camera that produces lovely images and the Olympus e-500 and e-300 which are both nice cameras to use, especially with the 25mm pancake prime.
Pentax back focusing issues can be fixed by adjusting 3 screws on the bottom plate. I have made a short video about it on my channel. Quite easy to do especially when the back focusing cannot be fixed using debug mode.
I have 2 Pentax CCD sensor cameras I bought both new a *istDL & a K100D I still use both cameras monthly I trade off using both cameras . Modern editing programs make my pictres colors really stand out. My Pentax cameras seem to under espouse as well and that's why modern editing programs are so important
I have a 290 and 390. 390 seams to be better. D200 is behaving strange. Close up photos turn out good but landscapes are difficult to get good. I have many old cameras. They all behave differently and when you spend a whole day with one camera and one out of ten pictures or less turns out good its very disappointing. Fuji X-T100 is so much better. Almost all pictures comes out good.
So after all that you couldn't say Nikon. It was the best. 23 minute video and you chickened out. Repeat after me.... NIKON. PS I'm a canon shooter...lol. Still was the NIKON though.
I have a D80 and this thing is insane!!!
Super sharp, good dynamic range, solid and fun to use every day!!!❤
Actually the last CCD camera Nikon produced was the D3000, yes; entry level but a very capable camera.
yes it is 😁😁😁
Capable if you know how to use them lol
Only an Italian calls dslr "reflex" 😂 ben fatto, caro, ottimo video
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I think italy made the first slr camera
@@oblivion_007 really?
@@rezzoc91 Rectaflex. First SLR with pentaprism in production
I have a D40 and it is crazy what magic pictures this camera makes.. Even in Auto Mode.. 🙂🙃🙂
I have one as well and the D40 is quite possibly one of the best 'slow' cameras that I've ever used and my clients love the results from it.
An interesting collection of CCD sensor cameras plus the vintage lumix. Familiar with Pentax K200D, Olympus E-300 and Nikon 200D all have their own virtues and some inherent idiosyncrasies. Agree on Olympus for convenient compact size and ease of use. Nikon 200D is a monster with great functionality. Pentax in my experience accurate colour rendition. Liked your cheerful positivity. Good video.
Thanks a lot 🤩😁😁😁😁😁
I read so many forum posts years ago, complaining about focusing issues with the 16-45. The Pentax is up there if it wasn't for those soft images. I can also recommend the Nikon D3000. I grabbed one, because it has the 10 MP D200 sensor. It also sits quite good in the hands, has a bigger Display and a way easier menu system than the semi pro model. A d200 in a D40 body. It's a sharp little shooter!
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I have Nikon D70, D80, D200 in CCD land and 10.2mp Pentax K-m. I owned the Olympus e-300 when new and still have the e E-20 (5mp) which I bought on its release. Of these I would say the D200 is the best camera if you want to exploit the vast back catologue of F series lenses as you can save up to 10 AI or AI-S manual lens profiles and use them in most modes. The D80 or D40 are far more restricted as they don't support such lenses as they don't know and can't be told their maximum apperture (that's what I call the biggest hole size, call me old fashioned). The E-20 and e-300 (which I bought to replace the E-20 due to its glacial file writting performance) were able to deliver wonderfull and strikingly real world images but the highlight end of dynamic range was seriously limited and any significant recovery of the raws would introduce magenta hue into the whites. The four-thirds format is seriously restricted in lens availability compared to Pentax and Nikon or MFT. If you don't need to use manual vintage glass then the D80 is a great choice being smaller and especially lighter than the D200 but with similar image results. However.. the Pentax K-m being light, small (relatively) and above all.. having IBS makes it the choice to carry on most occasions. I use with the SMC 28-105 FA f4-f5.6 plus the SMC A 70-210mm f4 macro and SMC 50mm A f1.7 with the K-m. The K-m is not weather resistant unlike the D200 which somewhat is. If changing lenses is to avoided then I might take the K-m with 28-105 and D80 with Nikkor IS 18-55 mk2 kit lens plus either D700 (FX) with Nikkor 20mm f2.8 AI or if for landscapes the 24mp Nikon D5300 with Tokina ATX Pro 11-16mm f2.8 or Canon 5D mk2 with the Nikkor 20mm. I'd carry the SMC 70-210 in the bag for some stabilized longer lens subjects. Above ISO 400 switch the D200 to 1250 or so and B/W profile for great film like gritty grain stunners. If I can only carry one camera and need video too then it is the miniscule Oly OM-D E-M10 mk3 with Lumix 14-45mm G Vario f3.5-5.6 and a small collection of Zuiko film era primes with K&F adapter. This is (perhaps) the most enjoyable to shoot with.. even if not CCD gold. 😊
thanks for sharing with us 😁😁😁😁😁
I enjoy listening to you speak.
Thanks a lott 😄😄😄
Of all the cameras I think the one that generally produces the best results is the Minolta if you use it in Raw and then develop it well, even though it only has 6 Mp it is quite impressive. I haven't used the 5D but I have used the 7D and even though I have many other modern cameras the Minolta continues to impress me with its colors. My everyday camera is a Sony A-7RIII but my favorites are the Sony A-900 and so as not to forget about composition, the 6Mp Minolta Dynax 7D which I have had since 2005 and still works. There is something special about CCD sensors that C-MOS sensors don't have.
Enjoyed your video👍, good comparisons,i also have one or two ccd cameras,i like them all they all have plus and minus,nikon d70 for me is the best all rounder,fuji s5 pro for picture quality, Pentax for funky colours,and Olympus e400 like Kodak colours and like you say a small, quality camera for carrying around,i shoot raw and find i hardly have to process ccd images,the cmos camera's i have i have to process them
thanksss :"DDDDD
Ho preso il mese scorso una e-300 Olympus, fantastica!!!
Giusto ieri ho preso una 5D Minolta con tre lenti af dell'era analogica per capirci, non vedo l'ora che arrivi. Guardando il tuo video mi incuriosisce molto la lumix ma credo sia costosa, penso che per Natale mi regalerò la K10 o la D200. Grazie per il bel video
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I don’t think LiveMOS is really a midpoint between CCD and CMOS. It seems to be panasonic’s brand name for NMOS sensors, which were just a competing technology to CMOS for making sensors on a normal semiconductor production line. They’re more similar to each other than they are to CCD. My E-520 has a 10mp LiveMOS sensor and it has some pretty gnarly pattern noise just like a lot of early CMOS sensors. My 8mp CCD E-500 has no pattern noise at all
I only use full frame cameras, but this has been very interesting
unfortunattly the only ccd full frame that i know is leica m9 and costs a lot 😅
I have a k10D. The colours are great. JPEGs are slightly soft but, I don’t use them. The RAW files are great. This was my first digital camera. It is capable of making excellent images and the range and quality of lenses available to it is immense. It is very well made. I bought a K-01 next and suddenly realised that the softness in my K10D is actually a back-focus issue. I was manual focusing for more critical work. I thought the K10D might have a setting in the menu to adjust focus but it doesn’t. I must get its autofocus calibrated to see what more I can get from it. The Pentax is a true photographer’s camera with very 3D rendering. It won a TIPA award when it was introduced so, it was a very strong offering at the time. It loves bright sunny days and flash. The files are good in Lightroom but with less dynamic range than a modern camera. The under exposure keeps details in the highlights. The big caveat however is that the images you shot in your can all be made very similar by Lightroom. You can even throw a modern CMOS camera into the mix and after editing make it hard to spot worthwhile differences. The RAW file is king and our finished edit is what counts. Modern cameras give better processed output that is more ready to go and the myth of CCD may not be as powerful as we imagine.
Thanks for comment i appreciate :)
have that SAME BACK FOCUS Issue with my 2007 bought K10D -- got fed up with it !
take a close look at the old forums about 10d. There is a program that is installed on a USB flash drive and you can make corrections. however, only for one lens
I used the d200 for some time. I found it in a hospital charity for very little as not working. I changed the batteries, replaced the broken glass and leathers, and in the end I resuscitated it fully. I used it with an 18-55 vr ii and a tamron 135mm 2.8 and it delivered very good results. I used it in the uk winter, with little light available and poor subjects and it never let me down in the countryside. I ended up selling it to a friend as I felt having more than 1 camera was redundant (i use Fujifilm) but overall i felt like i was using a proper and reliable dslr. I miss it dearly and if i only had nikon i would have treated it with some special f lenses. Ciao ragazzo
Wow amazing 😊😊😊😊Ciaooo😁
Sei bravo! Mi sono iscritto al canale soltanto perche mi piacce tanto la pizza. No, scherzo. Parlando sul serio, che ottimo confronto hai fatto. Capolaboro, con tutti i dettagli per confrontare. Congratulazioni, anche perché sei naturale e non sei in posa. Stavo proprio pensando ad una D200 per avere una camera CCD come complemento alla mia D700 e D3S. Sono ancora un po' emozionato per questo video e lo guarderò più volte, ma vedo che Sony aveva dei buoni colori, anche se a volte il cielo era un po' confuso. Sorpreso da Minolta e adoro lo stile da Lumix L1. Olympus non mi sorprende perché ho una EM5 per quando voglio andare leggero. Il tuo lavoro è interessante e non so come fai a non notare l'accento italiano quando parli inglese.🍕
grazie mille apprezzo davvero tanto , ti svelo un segreto parlo alla perfezione un'altra lingua, sarà per quello 😂
Hi, I also have several of those , or similar. As with everything else, it's up to your preference, as a single thing you enjoy in a particular camera can overshadow everything else, and that one will become your choice. But as you, i take pictures with them all, and enjoy them one at a time.Of all my Oly E-400 broke- without being abused, and I damaged my E-3 , but now have E1 and E-620, both nice.
i have bought the a390 as it was the last ccd sensor cam from sony / minolta :D
My first DSLR was the KM 5D then followed by the 7D. I just loved the color rendition of those compared to the clinical results in modern cameras. I used mostly Sigma lenses which of course further improved the warm, organic look of the images in most scenarios. About the massive Lumix body, it looks like the Fujifilm GFX 50R and that is medium format :-)
I've also have the Minolta 5d and the e400 . The. Colour and image quality of the e400 I find to be really good the kit len of the e400 is also really good. I got the 5d cheap as it has the first black frame issue but easy fix by just switching it off .
The K-10 (and Samsung GX-10) seem to have a serious back focussing issue. There is a fix (several in fact) and I would recommend looking them up. Personally, I became fed up with the issue and ultimately sold my camera on. I have the *istD at the moment which is the early 6MP camera that produces lovely images and the Olympus e-500 and e-300 which are both nice cameras to use, especially with the 25mm pancake prime.
I have just bought a D200 having previously a D50 until it stopped working.
Pentax back focusing issues can be fixed by adjusting 3 screws on the bottom plate. I have made a short video about it on my channel. Quite easy to do especially when the back focusing cannot be fixed using debug mode.
You could af adjusted the Pentax k10d in debug mode
I have 2 Pentax CCD sensor cameras I bought both new a *istDL & a K100D I still use both cameras monthly I trade off using both cameras . Modern editing programs make my pictres colors really stand out. My Pentax cameras seem to under espouse as well and that's why modern editing programs are so important
Mine too. Use AV, then you can also increase manual exposure to +1 or a little more. Play with AE setting too.
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Thanks I will give it a try as I normally photograph in AV mode
I like the Nikon D200 most, second best the Pentax K10
D200 at 100 bucks at the moment is just a no-brainer
Nikon d80 10 mp ccd censor same as the 200d
Fujifilm s5pro very good CCD camera
Yes, I have two that I still use.
6 split screen on youtube for phone for us to see difference. Common brother....
I have a 290 and 390. 390 seams to be better. D200 is behaving strange. Close up photos turn out good but landscapes are difficult to get good. I have many old cameras. They all behave differently and when you spend a whole day with one camera and one out of ten pictures or less turns out good its very disappointing. Fuji X-T100 is so much better. Almost all pictures comes out good.
So after all that you couldn't say Nikon. It was the best. 23 minute video and you chickened out. Repeat after me.... NIKON. PS I'm a canon shooter...lol. Still was the NIKON though.