Thanks for watching, and shoutout Reid and Karra for being so generous with their process! For more in depth tutorials check out my online class :) learnmonthly.com/andrew
Is there a way to straight-up download this chain? I'm a logic user who's learning Ableton now for uni and this would be such a good way to mess around with racks!
@@ConorReilly_ you can download the chain also if you're waves plugins they have some ridiculously good presets built into the studio rack that you can load up and mess around with!!
Reid is so committed to the whole puppet thing hahaha, I can't stop laughing at the idea of him crouching under the desk holding up a puppet as Andrew sits next to him
I mean, she was just mentioning it. The actually clip of her singing she was a decent distant away. Also, I’ve found Ableton’s EQ is really weirdly balanced in the visual and the lows nearly take up half the grid so it wasn’t cutting as much it looks.
Lennart Regebro it’s very subtle and it’s not like your pre amp will always deliver perfect vocals with no need for treatment. It’s like saying what’s the point of putting a compressor if you are killing the life and color of the pre
OMG that rack preset! What a time saver that must be! I always find I waste so much time reinventing the wheel on every single track I do! These are some GREAT tips! I'm going to be watching this over, and making my own similar effect rack. Like. Now. Such a good idea!
@@lordlemmingman I made the rack myself, and I swapped in a lot of my own ideas and plugins. But I did use the general concepts from this video. It's a great general idea. I'm going to make one of these for all my typical bits as time goes forward. It's a great idea!
WOW ANDREW.. I was literally just on Reid's channel checking out his vocal rack setup video and boom! this video comes up. I'm such a big fan of you, karra and reid so this video was AMAZING!
I used ableton 9 lite for 3 years straight before upgrading to the full suite of live 10, but i did all my college work in 9 lite , as i did music production and live sound, and walked away with the highest grade you could get which allowed me to allowed me to go Uni. All i used was the stock plugins. Sure it is limited but with limitations comes creativity.
Ableton full version is very expensive. Ableton suite is very very very expensive :( Buy reason rack intro and use it as a vst. Best bang for buck in terms of instruments and effects.
If I might make a suggestion for the vocal sauce, try a dotted 8th or 16th or quarter delay. Using subdivisions of 3/8 or 3/16 will put on beat transients in the middle of beats in surprising ways. Like instant delicious syncopation
Man this was a really informative video. That is very nice of Reid and Karra to share so much info since it seems so many popular artists want to keep their setup hush hush. I wish I could afford your class but I still watch every vid as it comes out :)
Prop to Andrew for keeping a straight face while talking to a puppet. And these techniques are way too advanced for my need, but it is very interesting and it also shows how much work goes into making a good vocal.
20 years doing this and I still picked up a good tip. "Ducking echos/delays". I've never thought of this but it does make sense. I'll have to experiment with this for sure. Proof u learn something new everyday no matter what your experience.
we have 66 million and the only sound treatment the vocalist used was standing with her back to an open wardrobe (with clothes in it obvs plus towels on the doors). we used ableton for the daw but all the fx were freeware.
@@platinumpengwinmusic5564 Take the headphones off - might make it easier to get the pitch right. Just need to use the right mic and then some monitoring. Autotune = BS
@@platinumpengwinmusic5564 Good for you. Just that singers (being a Classical and Jazz one myself) do on the whole have issues with pitching when wearing headphones. It interferes with the singers feedback loop. Something instrumentalists don't have to worry about as they are creating the sounds external to their hearing and body. Autotune sucks as well and today's reliance on it is a sad indictment on the industry.
@@pierrebroccoli.9396 Theres a time and place for autotune, and honestly if it makes the music sound better isnt that the whole point? get off your high horse.
This is great. I love how I found all 3 of you separately, learning from each of you individually, just to see you all buddies in one room. Kudos on the good video.
thank you for this !!! my vocal chain was always kind of half-assed improvised stuff, but this gave me the motivation to use stefan reid's chain organisation as a template for mine, and I already feel so much lighter when I open a vocal channel :) Pretty sick that he uses only stock too !
Thank you Andrew, Thank you Reid & Karra, I truly appreciate you all and you incredible musical contributions. This was fine audio dining as well as thought provoking. Thanks again.
Hot tip folks if you're using ableton's de-esser preset, open up the sidechain tab and switch the EQ filter from bell to bandpass otherwise it won't work! It's a wonky little error in the preset but easy to fix! Once you're done, be sure to save it as default (right click/context menu). Cheers!
Eeeeeeeyyyyyy! Andrew Huang content always makes me happy like a good Sundae. Having Reid Stefan and Karra on is a bunch of cherries on top! Very interesting the move away from reverb towards layering different times of delay. Definitely trying that out!
For the last 3 years i've had a vocal chain set up from Reid , who i didn't know was so successful on spotify, and it freaking slaps. the tutorial also had such a great explanation so you could tweak it to your own thing
Been a fan of Karra and Reid for the longest time, just running the game now it's insane, especially with the vocal label recently developed for Splice. Just game changing.
I def need to learn how to save my effect chains in logic. I always use their default "narrative vocal" and then make changes in an ad hoc way until it sounds done
ORORORORO!!! I spend half of my day sleeping! ORORORO!!! Then I sometimes get up and tell you that I am a famous content creatorORORORORO!!! Please don't sleep while driving, dear dj
I found about KARRA from her TikTok reposts in RUclips a while ago, amazing 1-minute Ableton tutorials, I was thinking of her to be on 4 producers 1 sample after watching the previous one but finally, it happened in this video. So cool.
This was great, been watching Reid for awhile now and he's always super informative. I also think it was funny at times it looked like you didn't know if you should talk to the puppet or the puppet master lol
4:38 I remember I once asked him in his channel if putting the compressor after the de-esser wouldn't basically undo the de-essing and he got a bit upset about it lmfao.
If you had very similar parameters on both the compressor and de-esser then it might start to defeat itself, but as long as parameters are different (attack, release, threshold), then the compressors are really touching two different parts of the signal. I personally probably wouldn’t do it that way because it’s a bit more work for a similar result, but there’s not anything wrong with it.
Basically its dynamic eq on certain frequency range so compressor afterwards would raise levels in relative. Like when you smooth out with eq before compressing
Yeah there's nothing wrong with any approach, it was just funny that a legit question offended him. Maybe its because a lot of others criticized it or something.
If you really wanted to, you could buy a $30 computer monitor off craigslist, then buy a long enough cable to connect the two online. You would also need wireless mouse and keyboard, not super expensive though.
I don't get it, if your laptop is loud, why not do exactly that? Or do you mean you have no monitor? Because a semi-decent monitor is cheap and always a great investment compared to a shoddy laptop display (just assuming here).
Ok, so now i have the Ableton adg file of hte coolest vox processing rack, if anybody wants to try without having all the work i can send preset file, if that's ok for Andrew, Karra and Reth. Thank you so much for your videos Andrew!
The thing about less bass/more bass only applies to microphones fixed to a cardioid polar pattern. It’s called the proximity effect. Very prominent on dynamic mics but if your condenser mic is set to Omni mode, it won’t be a problem. Excellent video BTW!
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Thanks for watching, and shoutout Reid and Karra for being so generous with their process! For more in depth tutorials check out my online class :) learnmonthly.com/andrew
Hey Andrew
hi whats up.
Sup! Idk if I’ve ever been so early.
Damn, your hair is NOT lettin' up my man
Why no first of October ?
It was a honor collab with my favorite RUclips channel 🙌🏻 Thank you Andrew for visiting us and being amazing 💜
You guys rule, thanks for sharing the knowledge! 💖
pog?
Is there a way to straight-up download this chain? I'm a logic user who's learning Ableton now for uni and this would be such a good way to mess around with racks!
Conor James whole loops vocal sauce if I’m not mistaken
@@ConorReilly_ you can download the chain also if you're waves plugins they have some ridiculously good presets built into the studio rack that you can load up and mess around with!!
A massive thank you to Andrew for having Reid and I on your channel! It was a dream come true getting to collaborate with you and educate the world! ✨
realest puppet in the game!
hi ck9c
Reid is so committed to the whole puppet thing hahaha, I can't stop laughing at the idea of him crouching under the desk holding up a puppet as Andrew sits next to him
What do you mean? He's the realest puppet in the game!
I LOVE the fact that he just uses the stock plug-ins. I am only able to use stock and free plugins so this is really nice.
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiits production time.
realist puppet in the game
lolll
Is he lying on the floor the whole time holding up the puppet during filming? 🤣
He _is_ the puppet, smh
So this is a gimmick... Or does he identify as a puppet? Laughing but kinda serious.
@@notice_fpv i think he just doesn't like his face being seen on camera, so he uses a puppet as a sort of performance get-around
his branding is beyond on point.
@@girthaversion there are a few pictures from him and he had a other name before the puppet thing so yeah .....
Singer: *stands closer to the mic for "more bass"*
Producer: *rolls off lows, reduces low mids*
😂actually tho
I mean, she was just mentioning it. The actually clip of her singing she was a decent distant away.
Also, I’ve found Ableton’s EQ is really weirdly balanced in the visual and the lows nearly take up half the grid so it wasn’t cutting as much it looks.
@@RegebroRepairs nah some are but nost mics just bring different details or colors out and etc
Damn, you know nothing John Stone, and believe me, it shows =)
Lennart Regebro it’s very subtle and it’s not like your pre amp will always deliver perfect vocals with no need for treatment. It’s like saying what’s the point of putting a compressor if you are killing the life and color of the pre
OMG that rack preset! What a time saver that must be! I always find I waste so much time reinventing the wheel on every single track I do! These are some GREAT tips!
I'm going to be watching this over, and making my own similar effect rack. Like. Now.
Such a good idea!
You could buy the rack on his website but at the same time he shows you pretty much everything so you could also recreate it.
@@lordlemmingman I made the rack myself, and I swapped in a lot of my own ideas and plugins. But I did use the general concepts from this video. It's a great general idea. I'm going to make one of these for all my typical bits as time goes forward. It's a great idea!
Holy crap I learned so much from this . You rock Andrew!!!!!’ Great video
Thanks!
WOW ANDREW.. I was literally just on Reid's channel checking out his vocal rack setup video and boom! this video comes up. I'm such a big fan of you, karra and reid so this video was AMAZING!
"you have some of the best stock plugins"
*laughs in ableton live lite*
i use intro. makin' hobo beats.
I used ableton 9 lite for 3 years straight before upgrading to the full suite of live 10, but i did all my college work in 9 lite , as i did music production and live sound, and walked away with the highest grade you could get which allowed me to allowed me to go Uni. All i used was the stock plugins. Sure it is limited but with limitations comes creativity.
Ableton full version is very expensive. Ableton suite is very very very expensive :(
Buy reason rack intro and use it as a vst. Best bang for buck in terms of instruments and effects.
LOVED this video, so much good info. Karra and Reid are awesome 🚀
If I might make a suggestion for the vocal sauce, try a dotted 8th or 16th or quarter delay. Using subdivisions of 3/8 or 3/16 will put on beat transients in the middle of beats in surprising ways. Like instant delicious syncopation
Man this was a really informative video. That is very nice of Reid and Karra to share so much info since it seems so many popular artists want to keep their setup hush hush. I wish I could afford your class but I still watch every vid as it comes out :)
Prop to Andrew for keeping a straight face while talking to a puppet. And these techniques are way too advanced for my need, but it is very interesting and it also shows how much work goes into making a good vocal.
20 years doing this and I still picked up a good tip. "Ducking echos/delays". I've never thought of this but it does make sense. I'll have to experiment with this for sure. Proof u learn something new everyday no matter what your experience.
Yeah. "Never stop improving and being open to new ideas" is the ultimate lesson I learned in this job.
Three of my favorite RUclips here! Great stuff. Thanks for the collaboration. I recently added Karra from her YT tips that were so on point and useful
we have 66 million and the only sound treatment the vocalist used was standing with her back to an open wardrobe (with clothes in it obvs plus towels on the doors). we used ableton for the daw but all the fx were freeware.
Distortion before reverb is such a good idea omg! Could use that in so many creative sound design ways
"and because Karra's a great singer we'll just set AutoTune to 27 ms" - spoken like a true pop producer 🙏
LMAO
@@platinumpengwinmusic5564 Take the headphones off - might make it easier to get the pitch right. Just need to use the right mic and then some monitoring.
Autotune = BS
@@platinumpengwinmusic5564 Good for you. Just that singers (being a Classical and Jazz one myself) do on the whole have issues with pitching when wearing headphones.
It interferes with the singers feedback loop. Something instrumentalists don't have to worry about as they are creating the sounds external to their hearing and body.
Autotune sucks as well and today's reliance on it is a sad indictment on the industry.
@@pierrebroccoli.9396 Theres a time and place for autotune, and honestly if it makes the music sound better isnt that the whole point? get off your high horse.
@@calenhoover1124 learn how to sing
i thought i my ears weren't as attuned as i thought, i could definitely hear the subtle changes! thanks music tech degree!
glad to see you're getting back into yt andrew :)
Fifty million, man that's insane. What a legendary puppet
Explain
Realist puppet in the game
The Puppet's actually Annabelle's cousin
Thanks Andrew, this video was super cool, so much character with only stock plugins, love it!!
Really useful. Thanks a lot for the 3 of you
I JUST LOVE Reid and Karra!
Lovely stuff Andrew! Forever learning from you 💛
the content of this channel is getting better every day :') I'm learning so much
This is great. I love how I found all 3 of you separately, learning from each of you individually, just to see you all buddies in one room. Kudos on the good video.
Saving this to reference literally every time I do vocals lmao
Honestly this is super top notch material. Thank you so much Karra Andrew & Reid 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
thank you for this !!! my vocal chain was always kind of half-assed improvised stuff, but this gave me the motivation to use stefan reid's chain organisation as a template for mine, and I already feel so much lighter when I open a vocal channel :) Pretty sick that he uses only stock too !
Great video! I'm a DnB producer from the UK who is getting into Vox and Mics etc so this is really good advice.....
That intro music always bring back memories of your videos
Thank you Andrew, Thank you Reid & Karra, I truly appreciate you all and you incredible musical contributions. This was fine audio dining as well as thought provoking. Thanks again.
Hot tip folks if you're using ableton's de-esser preset, open up the sidechain tab and switch the EQ filter from bell to bandpass otherwise it won't work! It's a wonky little error in the preset but easy to fix! Once you're done, be sure to save it as default (right click/context menu). Cheers!
Yeah ABSOLUTELY would love more in depth videos like this 🤩
Eeeeeeeyyyyyy! Andrew Huang content always makes me happy like a good Sundae. Having Reid Stefan and Karra on is a bunch of cherries on top! Very interesting the move away from reverb towards layering different times of delay. Definitely trying that out!
Excellent stuff! Thanks Andrew, Reid and Karra!
For the last 3 years i've had a vocal chain set up from Reid , who i didn't know was so successful on spotify, and it freaking slaps. the tutorial also had such a great explanation so you could tweak it to your own thing
Been a fan of Karra and Reid for the longest time, just running the game now it's insane, especially with the vocal label recently developed for Splice. Just game changing.
So happy to hear you like KARRA Presents on Splice!!
Pls we need more crossovers like this
this is the best collab you have done Abdrew! Thanks, very helpful!
Honestly great video
This is so cool ! I got the vocal sauce ages ago and having those delays just there at hand is so so useful
Literally, perfect timing. Was just researching last night on vocal mixing setups and naturally came across Reid's vids yesterday
thos TRANSITIONS are FIRE
I literally out here just wanting to know where I can hear the full version of ALL of those transitions
It's my track "Dolphins"
Woooooooo!!! Amazing!!! The Best Crossover of the last time!!! Congratulations!!!
great video. enjoyed the detailed overview of the FX chain
I just found out about Karra last week, so this was a nice surprise.
Ayy the universe doing some work ✨
Bought this today.
Nice collab guys, love the content.
Character and experimentation in your plugin settings are key to making something sound fresh and inventive.
man you guys are absolutely killing it
This is so cool ! Thanks for sharing
I def need to learn how to save my effect chains in logic. I always use their default "narrative vocal" and then make changes in an ad hoc way until it sounds done
They are awesome. I've been following them for a while now they are honestly awesome 😍😍😍😊😊💖💖
Ableton should definitely post this video on their site. I been underestimating those stock plugins. Reid's a mixing genius
The greatest crossover event in history
Edit: Woah, thanks for all the likes. I’ve never gotten this many before. I guess being early pays off
ORORORORO!!! I spend half of my day sleeping! ORORORO!!! Then I sometimes get up and tell you that I am a famous content creatorORORORORO!!! Please don't sleep while driving, dear dj
And they said endgame was ambitious
I found about KARRA from her TikTok reposts in RUclips a while ago, amazing 1-minute Ableton tutorials, I was thinking of her to be on 4 producers 1 sample after watching the previous one but finally, it happened in this video. So cool.
literally the two best music producers on youtube
edit thanks for the gold stranger
Super interesting video, Andrew! Thanks for the info, taken some good lessons from this.
Proximity effect only occurs in figure of 8 and cardioid microphone patterns. There is no proximity effect in Omni.
Love the in-depth video!!
This was great, been watching Reid for awhile now and he's always super informative. I also think it was funny at times it looked like you didn't know if you should talk to the puppet or the puppet master lol
Wow. An absolute wealth of knowledge in 11 minutes. Really appreciate it guys, especially you Andrew.
You had me at CL-1B. I’ve heard it in real-time. Beautiful compressor.
4:38 I remember I once asked him in his channel if putting the compressor after the de-esser wouldn't basically undo the de-essing and he got a bit upset about it lmfao.
Well if he didnt de-ess before compression it would still have more sillabance
I bet he knows (or at least realizes it now). But he just likes his chain the way it is, apparently. And doesn't want to mess with it.
If you had very similar parameters on both the compressor and de-esser then it might start to defeat itself, but as long as parameters are different (attack, release, threshold), then the compressors are really touching two different parts of the signal. I personally probably wouldn’t do it that way because it’s a bit more work for a similar result, but there’s not anything wrong with it.
Basically its dynamic eq on certain frequency range so compressor afterwards would raise levels in relative. Like when you smooth out with eq before compressing
Yeah there's nothing wrong with any approach, it was just funny that a legit question offended him. Maybe its because a lot of others criticized it or something.
Pretty epic. Thank you for this!
Man what a great video! Thank you Andrew and the puppet guy (lul), it was informative and funny... Wouldn't add more! Cheers
Your Videos Are always Informative
This is really professional
Thank you for this
Great video !!
One of the most usefull videos for vocal setups i've ever found
Genuinely one of the most inspiring things on this channel.
Incredibly informative video. Y’all are beasts
A detailed explanation of a vocal chain that primarily uses stock programme effects? SNATCHED
Great video Andrew 👍
My favorite youtubers together in one video! 🤩🤩🤩 learned so much from them
Great tips and insights thanks all!
Karra and reid are both insanely amazing
awesome stuff!
Damn that is one tall ass puppet! Love these two as well!
Thankyou
Three successful people who seem so grounded and are willing to share their time and tips.
Tip #1: remove your computer from the room
_cries in loud af laptop_
saaaame lol. RIP us
If you really wanted to, you could buy a $30 computer monitor off craigslist, then buy a long enough cable to connect the two online. You would also need wireless mouse and keyboard, not super expensive though.
buy a long mic wire, keep laptop ouside room
I don't get it, if your laptop is loud, why not do exactly that? Or do you mean you have no monitor? Because a semi-decent monitor is cheap and always a great investment compared to a shoddy laptop display (just assuming here).
oh shit, hi andy, i see you on the jacob collier discord a lot
Ok, so now i have the Ableton adg file of hte coolest vox processing rack, if anybody wants to try without having all the work i can send preset file, if that's ok for Andrew, Karra and Reth. Thank you so much for your videos Andrew!
Can I ?
Hey, I would love to grab that adg.
The thing about less bass/more bass only applies to microphones fixed to a cardioid polar pattern. It’s called the proximity effect. Very prominent on dynamic mics but if your condenser mic is set to Omni mode, it won’t be a problem. Excellent video BTW!
would love more of these!
this video is just so insanely informative
That was too much sauce at once, I'm definitely gonna be revisiting this video.
That is so pricey! I have gotten great results with an SM7B through a focusrite ISA and most of the time that sounds pretty acceptable
10:32 Reid: **Gets really close** "Do you have any games on your phone?"
Greatest comment ive ever seen on RUclips bro 😂😂😂
Haha!! That was awesome. I'm really digging the puppet thing.
6:52 genius! I couldn't concentrate anymore beyond that cough movement
Definitely my favorite puppet in the world.
Oh, and Reid's great, too.
dream team right here,, all the right players in the game..thanks for the in-depth info,,- too appreciated,,
Instrumental to learning how to record vocals. Thank you so much!!!!
This vocal chain is making me take a hard look at my life choices