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- macOS Ventura 13, Settings to turn off before display calibration. In this version of macOS Apple has made some big changes to the graphical user interface of the system settings dialog. Note that it is no longer called system preferences. And the locations of item/settings that should be disabled before any display calibration has change as well. This guide will walk you through the settings that must be turn off for a successful display calibration.
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Thank you ! I didn't know that True Tone affected the external displays ! Now that I tried it it affected the Calibration of my two 27" 4K displays. I will need to recalibrate them both! Since I did them both at the same time I never noticed the difference as the light changed..
You're welcome!
Came here looking where the 'turn display off after # minutes' went and found it. Thank you!
Awesome, I don't like the change at all, it broke many logic and past customs.
@@ArtIsRight I'm not a fan of the changes either. I don't like how they are trying to make a Mac look and operate like an iPhone.
Very helpful and well produced
Thank you!
Thanks Art! your videos are very useful 💪🏻🫶
Awesome!
just what I needed today! I love your videos thank you! Really helpful for going back to the MacOs system after that white plasticky pro’s came out,
one thing thou I usually turn on the hdr on my external (mac on clamshell) because if not it becomes the opposite of what you’ve said being washed out and all that
About HDR, I have not seen that to be the case. Something is going on if you have the opposite effect.
Am using Mac Mini M1 with an external SAMSUNG screen. All was fine with many display settings but am now stuck with 1920 x 1080 and everything is washed out, barely readable. Any ideas, sir? TOO BAD you were speaking about using 2 screens
Turn HDR Off, start there and as far as resolution goes, I am not sure. There's not a lot of data points for me to go by.
My BenQ display flickers in certain apps when using a MacBook, not sure what is causing the issue, have any suggestions?
what specific mode, described flicker, color changes or display going on and off intermittently?
Thank you for the Video. Somehow my MacbookPro isnt recognizing the USB Connection to the Monitor when running Palette Master Element. I get an error saying to connect the monitors USB to the computer. Did someone had this issue? Many Thanks. Benq Sw240, Macbookpro M1 Max 2021.
Are you using a USB Cable, if not you do. ruclips.net/video/OVml8PQ4F2g/видео.html
Ventura 13.1 seems to have changed that settings dialog again.
Somewhat, Most if not all of the settings shown here are still valid. They put in some dynamic links into the system dialog, i.e. Screen Saver now has a link to Lock Screen. Because of this logical grouping change, the dynamic link should have been there from the starts, at least this is getting fixed now.
@@ArtIsRight well it took me a while to find the "Resolution" button, I think it takes an "Option" click now. However I don't play with that setting much so maybe I was looking in the wrong place.
Resolution should have just been the slider selection, it is still there on all of my test machine. That is a fundamental settings and will be there persistently.
hey Art! I'm running an apple M2 Max with Ventura 13.3 and Palette Master Element V1.3.19.0, Calibrator V1.3.7 (iD220) and trying to calibrate 2 BenQ SW321C's. After I choose all of my setting and click calibrate the program crashes. Am I missing something or is the software not compatible with this new version of OS? Thank you for all you do man. You are my go to guy for anything motor related. I've learned so much from your channel.
Try 1.3.18
hello, I have a problem with the refresh rate, I can not check my refresh rate, it is gone, you got any tips for this problem?
I can't help you without knowing specifics, setup, display model, connect cable, etc.
Thank you Art for giving this clear explanation!
I tried to follow the same steps and I’m facing the issue of selecting display and technology type. Mini LED is not listed. I’m using MacBook Pro 16inch M3 Sonoma
Thank you 🙏🏼
Yes you need the latest Calibrite Display Pro HL or Display Plus HL to get access to that backlight technology
You’ve mentioned in your past videos, for heavy retouching on capture one you recommend at least 24 gpu/32 ram.
With the new release of capture one 23, do those specs still apply? Considering the new version is more efficient and faster
I'm traveling at the moment. I'll run some test next week and will probably publish a video on it. However, based on what I know so far about C1, I would still consider GPU upgrade to give you the advantage and just more horse power in general. But stay tuned.
If I have my BenQ 321c display as the main display (MacBook is closed), do I need to open up the MacBook and adjust those MacBook settings still?
I would still give it a check in both open laptop mode and in clam shell mode, those are 2 separate states that the computer operate on
Hi, I see that macOS Ventura no longer support color profile for Mac builtin display which is totally bad. Any idea?
not quite only on XDR or pro display with reference modes. On MacBook Air and 13" MacBook Pro or iMac for that matter it still support Profiles. Alternatively you can also access profile under Color Sync Utility as well, so technically all is not loss.
I updated my M1 MacBookPro 13" 2020 to Ventura today. I see the Color Profile settings in Display settings window. Default setting is Colour LCD. When I checked there color profiles, there is AdobeRGB profile which gives better colors than Colour LCD profile. I havent calibrated the display yet after OS update.
Does it matter which colour profile I select before I calibrate with i1 Display Pro? Will selecting AdobeRGB give better gamut for the calibration?
Thanks in advance.
Those are called reference profile, they should not be used as display profiles
my mac does not recognise my screen anymore after macOS update! any idea how can I get it to work?
go through diagnostic process, restart, swap cables, try other connection, etc. contact display manufacturer support or apple for further help on this
Art unrelated question, I have an sw270c monitor connected to my MacBook via USB-C. do you know if I could use a thunderbolt 2 to ethernet dongle to connect to the Internet [wired]? I know I can get usb to ethernet but if it works through the display port I would much prefer that option. Thanks in advance.
not from the display. Also you are referring TB2 / Mini DP, if so that has to be direct laptop connect.
Thanks! it works perfectly
Nice!
My additional monitor will no longer rotate after MacOS update
There should be a display setting that give you the option when you select the external display.
I have mac studio and benq sw2725 and calibrite color checker pro. In past, I used the cc profiler, but it seemed to not want to save. So, I followed your video on the calibrite profiler app. Everything went fine, but I always get confused on where the profiles are saved. I see it when I hit save in the actual profile program, but how do I know I am actually using the profile? For example, when I go to the mac studio settings like in your video, hit display it still shows srgb. If I click the drop down like your example, I do see the new profile, so my question is do I click the profile or leave it as the default under srgb 2.1? I edit photos and want better control over luminance and color. I did notice when I clicked to changed the display setting to the new profile listed my screen did go warmer. So if you do nothing is it really using the new profile or must you check each time under the mac settings display to make sure its set on the new profile?
Yes click on the new profile, it should have the display name and date.
@@ArtIsRight oh dang it, I put wrong monitor, I have the PD not the sw. I thought on another video you said not to change anything on the actual apple box itself for PD? So apple icon top left, going to the apple display drop down for display, do I leave the default of the SRGB Iec61966-2.1 color profile or do the drop down and click my new Icc from the color checker ICC profile. When I do click it I do see the screen change to a warmer vs the color with is the default of the sRGB.....
Hello! In a video you recommended not using HDMI to connect the Benq monitor, I have the SW271c, but if I want to get a clean signal and use a blackmagic ultrastudio, I must connect it via HDMI, is it advisable to do it that way?
You can use it in that situation
@@ArtIsRight is it better to use the blackmagic ultrastudio 3g? or not really
I'm getting one into test and do extensive video with in the next few weeks. Stay tuned.
Thank you Art! Learned a lot from you in these past days. I am going to stay a little bit longer on previous MacOS just to see how stable is Ventura.
Sensible. As I always recommend around this time of year, don't just click on update. There are huge consequences :D
3:24 That Preset mode isn't there anymore.
It is for XDR and not for Normal LCD
Sir my mac in system setting >display in brightness slider bar option not available & unable to disable auto brightness…..please help how to change?😂
sounds like you have an external 3rd party display.
@@ArtIsRight Sir I’m purchased mac mini m2 using with Lg 4k monitor bt display brightness option not show in display section & 2nd issue is
When i am setup with 4k resolution all window menu bar too small & default resolution size show 1080p or view normally? Please suggest how to correct ?
Display bigness control in macOS is for Apple displays only. 3rd party display like what you have, brightness needs to be change manually on the display. Nothing is wrong with the OS. And scaling is fine, 1080, 2K, choose what works for you
There is no brightness or True tone option
Not all computer will have this. Older laptop or desktop will not have this.
Thank you are most helpful!
:D
Very much appreciated! Thank you, Art
Welcome!
The Mac studio with Ventura 13.2 and Benq PD322OU . With 4K , texts are so tiny, unable to work. Larger font brings down the display resolution and display becomes worthless. Color is washed out and dull.
What should be the settings for the best possible display with great color, contrast and sharpness for editing with big fonts that are comfortable to eyes. Thanks in Advance.
Lots of issues there. So washed out color can be because HDR is enabled. If it is disabled it. If not then it is the matted panel coating and some are not used to this especially when coming from smart phone and modern devices. As far as text size it is a scaling thing and it does not bring the resolution down, it is more complex than that.
Are you asking for the setting or display spec. This is all based on personal preference, but you always have to option to just get Apple Studio Display as well.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for your response. HDR is off. Please advise the Ventura 13.2 System setting and PD 322OU menu/Display Pilot settings. Would really appreciate your help. Thanks in advance.
Forget display pilot for now. Just use Ventura setting, what you need to do is just choose the scaling resolution that works best for your vision. There's no magic selection or number it is based on what works for you. For the display put it in P3 Color mode and just go with that, You should get good colors.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you! Appreciate your recommendation.
Now when I leave on power adapter overnight, my laptop turns black and I have to force it to turn off and then turn on. Not sure if it has anything to do with my setting or something is wrong with my laptop now.
I would check your setting first, if it is happening consistently I would consider a fresh OS install
Nice & Thanks :)
Welcome!
Excellent Art, thank you!
Thank you! Cheers!
Hi Art, I no longer have the "presets" button showing on the displays window. I'm running ventura with a Studio Display. Can I no longer calibrate this monitor?
It should be there, interesting. I have to go by an apple store to check this out. If you run multiple display make sure that you have the correct display selected at the top to see all of the correct setting relative to the display.
There are no presets either
disclaimer in the beginning of the video, not all functions are available on all devices. Presets are only for Apple XDR displays.
Thank you, Art! I am a photographer and want to calibrate my Apple Studio Display to show the color when printed. I export in sgrb. Do I use the Design and Print profile or the P3?
I would stick with photo
How do i calobrate the display for my mac mini m2 pro? The system settings are very different...
What device do you have?
@@ArtIsRight A Mac Mini M2 Pro, and a LG HDR WFHD Monitor
M2 Pro can't be calibrated yet. Also the M2 Max as well. Some changes on the chip prevents calibration software from working properly.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for clearing it up! By "yet", do you mean a future OS update could enable it?
The error is not necessary related to the OS. It is the calibration software and changes made to the M2 Pro / Max that prevents calibration app for software calibrated display from working at the moment.
I've noticed, sine updating to Ventura, that my 271C flickers a lot. I'll be working in an app such as Lightroom or Chrome and when I click the window of the app, the screen starts to flicker. If I close the app, it stops. I can even reopen the same app and have normal behavior. It happens quite randomly it seems. I never noticed this until recently and I'm wondering if Ventura is the culprit.
Yes, Ventura is rather buggy in my opinion and has been many display out put blunders in many of the past os releases
Thanks the video was great. I have a request can you make a review of the Benq PD 2506Q monitor. It looks really compelling.
I'll see what I can do.
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Great video, thank you very much Art. I was experimenting with my new LG 40” HDR monitor linked to my Mac Mini M2 Pro. Should I turn HDR on in MacOS display settings? I noticed when I do this that the Color mode on the screen switches to personalised and some settings like P3 are no longer available. I mainly work with FCPX with HDR clips…
If you are editing in HDR yes, otherwise no.
@@ArtIsRight thank you !
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Thank you,. when I starting Palette Master Element on my MacM1 Max, asking me to connect USB cable, but cable is already connected, any solution? thank you.
what Mac OS version, laptop, desktop, what cable are you using to connect, what PME version?
@@ArtIsRight Ventura 13.0.1 /Mac studio PRO/cable using that came with monitor Benq PD3420Q/PME 1.3.18
Ventura needs PME update, in the works....
What version of palette master element do you recommend for macOS Ventura 13?
At this time none, they are working on an update
I'm using a SW240, Mac Mini M1 running Ventura with a x-rite i1 Display Pro. All is well with PME until I get to the very end to click FINISH and the screen goes Black (still backlit) I waited for 30 mins the first time bc I thought it was still running/saving the calibration results. But I have no keyboard controls (force quit doesn't work) I had to turn off the monitor and was back to a desktop without being convinced PME worked :( Any advice? i.e. Should I downgrade to Monterey?
There's a bug in PME that cause this issue, what you have to do is just turn off and on the display and it should work. If it does not then pull the display connection out and reconnect it again.
@@ArtIsRight thanks :)
if you alt tab to a different program and back to the xrite software you should get the window back
Thank you, Art. The one setting I didn't have turned off was 'True Tone' as I didn't realise it affected my monitor as well, it made a big difference to the validation results I've been getting recently. They were in the 1.6-1.9 region and I thought it's just because my monitor is old, after turning it off I did a new calibration and got 0.4-0.5 which is great and the colour gamut result is better too. Thanks again!
Awesome, TrueTone technically adjusts all of your displays white point in real time so the results that you have were not bad consider the side effect of it. Glad it worked out!
After calibrating with colour palette master element. Do I leave the high dynamic range off in the settings? I'm finally getting passed validation after calibrating.
Don't turn it back on.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you
Great video, but it leaves me with some confusion. I have a Mac Studio M1 Max, running Ventura with a BenQ SW270c. When using Palette Master and a x-Rite i1 Pro calibration device, I have the option to store my calibration under either slot 1,2, or 3. My aim was to have calibration 1 set to AdobeRGB when I edit photos, and calibration 2 set to Rec.709 when editing in Davinci Resolve. So I can switch between them with the buttons on the monitor.
When I first calibrate to AbobeRGB in calibration slot 1, its sets that as the ICC color profile in the display settings on the Mac. No problem there. However, when I go to calibrate for Rec.709 in slot 2, it changes the color profile to the newly created icc profile. So when I manually switch to calibration 1 with the physical buttons on the monitor, I would be using my hardware calibrated 1 setting (AdobeRGB) with a Rec.709 calibrated icc color profile.
So I'm confused with the icc color profile used on the Mac, and the custom calibration slots on the monitor.
Do I need to switch both the calibration slot on the monitor, AND the icc profile on the Mac? Or I shouldn't touch the icc profile on the Mac, and just use the custom calibration slots on my monitor? And if that's so, which icc profile should be used on the Mac if I want to switch betweem AdobeRGB work and Rec.709 (Davinci) work?
Thank you for the wonderful videos.
Use Palette Master Element generated profile and when you switch hardware calibration mode, you need to manually switch icc profile as well. ruclips.net/video/Cgo2p7jF3n0/видео.html
@@ArtIsRight Thank you very much! This answered all my questions!
When I click on the affiliate links, both Calibrite ColorChecker Display Pro and Plus lead to "Pro". Since you said no device on the market can calibrate MacBook Pro display, why are they claiming the Plus device is supporting up to 2000 nits displays?
Amazon list them on the same page, you just have to choose the device. These devices are meant to calibrate all display not just MBP. And the plus model can support up to 2000 nits, that is true, it has an updated sensor. To do that on the MacBook Pro the display brightness needs to be brought up manually to the higher nits. And for clarification it is not no device can calibrate the display, you can but the software and matrix / spectral data has not been updated to accommodate for these displays yet. Although there may be a solution as of now... investigating.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks, I mean, if you cannot calibrate MacBook Pro with them, it's false advertising - the federal Lanham Act allows civil lawsuits for false advertising that “misrepresents the nature, characteristics, qualities, or geographic origin” of goods or services. 15 U.S.C. § 1125(a). The FTC also enforces false advertising laws on behalf of consumers.
In other words, you could sue them and win! :)
I have a great relationship with the company and I don't have any intent to sue. They never advertised that they can calibrate XDR displays, which didn't exist when the plus device came out. They didn't mislead because it can calibrate displays up to 2000 nits brightness. Be it any other displays, this can be done but with Apple it requirer and API integration. Also you can calibrate but it is not recommend, the gamut is smaller. I'm just taking technical and not legality here. I rather leave the latter out of the conversation because it just distract from the subject at hand.
I got a new MacBook Pro 16" with M1 Max this week. I have two Studio Displays connected to the MacBook Pro. I followed your instructions for calibration with my i1 display and the icc profiles were also correctly included in ColorSync. True Tone is of course disabled.
I have a problem that I don't understand and can't get solved. As soon as I close the MacBook, the color of the external Studio Display changes visibly. When I look in ColorSync, the i1 profile is still enabled. When I reload the profile, the external monitor gets the correct color again. When I open the MacBook, it throws the color profiles out again.
Do you know this behaviour? Am I doing something wrong?
For Studio Displays are you running them in preset/reference mode?
Also I have see a bug in Mac OS that brings contrast down on some displays link up to a system. I have not been able to pin point this and it is intermittent, which makes it difficult to diagnose. It is not the profile as much as macOS doing something with the output from the computer.
@@ArtIsRight No matter which setting, whether "Apple Display (P3 - 600 Nits)" or "Photography" or "Web" - as soon as I close the MacBook, it changes the color profile on the attached screens. It's really annoying.
Got cha, macOS bug most likely, hopefully apply will fix this sooner rather than never.
please, i can't get a correct calibration, i have a benq sw271c monitor, an imac and davinci resolve, should i activate "mac display color profile" in resolve? can i use decklink card with benq monitor? what is the best calibration option for color grading in resolve?
Yes activate. Yes you can use decklink card, first calibrate BenQ without decklink and then add decklink in. Best calibration option, if you are using REC 709 is REC 709, Gamma 2.4 black 0.3. Luminance choose what you like between 80-160 nits.
@@ArtIsRight thanks a lot!!!
@@ArtIsRight is it better to use a decklink or connect my benq momitor directly to the mac with the usbc cable?
You can do either actually, especially if you use Resolve.
So these are finally good to go for calibration?
And should I watch any other videos of yours for the settings or are they all here?
For mini LED not quite yet on calibration. I would the videos in this play list for more comprehensive info. ruclips.net/p/PLjlr8rlxl_q5jBT6sp5aUrTfctBJ4U43J
@@ArtIsRightthanks!
Random question. Do you have any videos on the “other” folder in storage: and does the newer macs still have an issue with this?
Never an easy process! Thanks for the heads up
You bet! It is getting more and more complex!
Thank you Art, for all your very informative videos! Has been a great help already!
I have however two question since this is my first HW calibrated monitor.. BenQ SW271C
The first question, ...do I need to set the Colour Profile settings on my M1 Max to a specific profile before I want to calibrate my BenQ monitor?
Like setting it to a profile that corresponds to the one I want to create? Or does it not matter at all?
After I've gone through the calibration proces, the PME software stores the profiles on my SW271C under either one of the Calibration 1,2,3 settings, but it also puts those profiles on my M1 Max Colour profile settings.
Now I've made one for Photo and one for Video work...
The second question I have is, ..
---If I want to switch from Photo to video work.. do I have to switch the color profile on only one of them? Either the Monitor or the Mac..?
Or do I need to change it to the same profile on both of them?
Would really appreciate the help, as I havent found an answer to these questions anywhere.
...do I need to set the Colour Profile settings on my M1 Max to a specific profile before I want to calibrate my BenQ monitor?
Like setting it to a profile that corresponds to the one I want to create? Or does it not matter at all?
Leave it as is. ruclips.net/video/xywb1_vpQhI/видео.html
--If I want to switch from Photo to video work.. do I have to switch the color profile on only one of them? Either the Monitor or the Mac..?
Or do I need to change it to the same profile on both of them?
You need to do this for both ruclips.net/video/Cgo2p7jF3n0/видео.html
What video program do you use. If you use Resolve you should have a calibration for it. Other programs you can always use Photo Setting the color management module in the OS or the app will take care of the rest.
@@ArtIsRight Ahh thank you so much! Have been looking for that info but couldn't find it.
I am starting to learn Resolve, as It's a great program I want to use more, but for now I have been working (and probably keep on doing so as well next to Resolve) keep working with Final Cut Pro X and Adobe Premiere Pro.
For Resolve I need to use the Rec709 Profile I created with PME..? I do however more work and more with DCI-P3 as it's more common these days with new LED OLED tv and smart-phones.
And another question I have,
With Photoshop, in the Color Settings Panel, do I keep using the standard Adobe RGB 1998 profile as my working spaces?, or should I now also use the Newly created PME Profile?
(I shoot with my camera's RAW and work in Adobe RGB 1998.)
I know at export I should always use the standard RGB/sRGB profile.
For Resolve I need to use the Rec709 Profile I created with PME..? I do however more work and more with DCI-P3 as it's more common these days with new LED OLED tv and smart-phones.
- Interesting you brought this up. It is where the industry is going but it has not become the de facto standard just yet, which is disappointing.
And another question I have,
With Photoshop, in the Color Settings Panel, do I keep using the standard Adobe RGB 1998 profile as my working spaces?, or should I now also use the Newly created PME Profile?
(I shoot with my camera's RAW and work in Adobe RGB 1998.)
-Either will do just fine. I should make a video about this. The technical answer is Adobe RGB or any reference color space will have greater compatibility between displays. Choosing your display icc profile lock you into one. Either will do, but display icc will give you a slight edge, but not one that will really change visually what you see or do.
I know at export I should always use the standard RGB/sRGB profile.
-Yes that is correct.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for the replies!
I do also really hope DCi-P3/P3 gets the facto standard, Rec709 really is a limiting factor when most video formats these days are 10-bit color and up.
I guess I can leave Photoshop at Adobe RGB then. Didn't notice a big difference between it and my display icc calibration, other than a slight higher wider color and larger dynamic range.
---Just one last question, (and then I'm all set :)
I use the latest PME 1.3.19
Was my assumption correct to set the black point to 0.3 nits when I created both my Adobe RGB and Resolve profiles? (Using a xRite i1 Display Pro-- on my BenQ SW271C monitor) Is it better in Absolute black, considering 0.3 nits gives more headroom to edit/grade the shadows?
P3 will be the standard some day, it is just a matter of when.
Using 1.3.19 I would give absolute black a try and see how the scaling works out. I put a link to download the test asset in the video.