Only Calibrite newest Display Pro HL and Display Plus HL are capable of profiling miniLED backlight displays such as Apple Liquid Retina XDR displays. All previous Calibrite / X-Rite devices are not capable of calibrating any miniLED backlight display including Apple Liquid Retina XDR inside the 14" & 16" MacBook Pro.
I know you say "aren't capable" but can we use the GB LED option and use the original Display Plus? I JUST bought it earlier this year when I got my 16" M2 and these Plus HL weren't out yet when I bought the Display Plus.
Hello Art, I hope all is well. I just calibrated my Apple MBP M1 Max with Sonoma version 14.4.1 with the Calibrite Display Plus HL. I followed your instructions step by step. My machine did have a slight difference from the factory profile to the now calibrated profile. My validation returned an Average, All patches as 0.5 and Maximum, All patches at 2.9. Thank you so much for sharing this educational video for us who are not too familiar with all the technicalities in making the proper screen calibration on these MBP with the Retina screens. As a photographer, I am appreciative for all the work you do to provide us with these amazing educational videos to better display colors on the MBP screen. Kind regards, Kevin.
Hi Kevin! Would you mind sharing which settings you followed? I didn't find the video about MacOS SONOMA 14.X (he mentioned at minute 2:16 that we need to change some settings according to MacOS)
@@4ndressa957 Hello, I apologize for the delayed response. I have Sonoma OS therefore I followed these settings ruclips.net/video/UQs4y26ZULM/видео.html
What an amazing and professional explanation. I am deeply grateful. As a photographer, you want to know exactly what you see on your screen. Thank you so much!
For that no, none of the Pro Spectrophotometer are supported. The only that's support is the Color Munki Photo / i1Studio / ColorChecker Studio devices (they are all the same). For that pro device you would still use i1Profiler. However, X-Rite has ended support for the i1Pro series already, so I would not advise that you get it. I would look at the i1Pro 2 or 3
Same answer, Calibrite Profilier will not support that, and you have to use i1Profilier those are consider X-Rite pro devices. The only spectro that Calibrite Profilier support is the i1studio device
Hello Art, thank you very much for the great tutorial and for the effort to answer to our questions. I do have some questions: 1. After creating a profile for a few different (in brightness) photography presets, I have noticed that even though this profile is still active while using the default P3 presets with brightness adjustment, the contrast on these presets differs from that of the specialised presets. When testing on the "Black Level" page of Lagom, XDR preset crushes the blacks noticebly, so there is some gamma shift going on switching between the default presets and the workflow presets. Any way to correct the gamma on the default presets? 2. Looking at the gamma chart provided by Lagom, the gamma is super off in all my browser, but after downloading the image it does look right from the Preview app. On a Windows machine I didn't have this problem. 3. After calibrating both the macbook display and perfoming a hardware calibration on an EIZO ColorEdge Monitor with the same device, the EIZO looked noticebly more magenta/reddish, especially in skin tones. I have then decided to manually reduce the red output on the eizo to match visually that of the apple display, but I'm not sure which is more correct - the specialized monitor or the apple display. Do these Green-Magenta differences actually matter a lot, since our perception of white balance changes based on our surroundings? Thank you!
Ive just done my own testing, and i can say that Apple STILL not loading profiles correctly when restarting. I've just created a really bad profile like make everything washed out, so after i change resolution or restart my computer it KINDA goes back to apple default profile, BUT not same as going again into calibrite PROFILER and applying the profile again. I dont understand why you saying that after restart it applies the profile, visually it kinda HALF applied
Hi, I have the same problem here with my MBP 16 M3 max, as soon as I restart or switch to the XDR 1600 nit profile and come back to photography P3 L100 the icc profile reverts to lcd colors while on colorsync it shows me the icc profile created by calibrite, each time I have to click on reset to default and then on calibrite "profile management" to click on activate on the icc profile I created with my display plus HL so that the colors change and my profile is activated correctly. This must be a Mac os sonoma problem?
Hello, first of all, thank you for the detailed video. Unfortunately, it no longer works as described, apparently due to a change in MacOS. If you select a profile (e.g. Photo P3 D65), you can use the fine adjustment. However, if you duplicate the profile as described and save it (in my case with 120 cd and sRGB), then there is no fine adjustment. In the menu, the fine adjustment is grayed out and there is only "full calibration". And this cannot be done with Calibrite Pro because the sensor is not recognized (by MacOS). I use MacBook Pro M4Pro 16" with latest MacOS Seq.
Thanks for an awesome video! Learned a lot! I'm very new to this but have bought me a Display Plus. When making presets for my Pro Display XDR, I've measured two profiles (one for photo and one for Video) with the settings adjusted for each. I can see them in the system settings/display and change them there. But when I look in Color Sync Utility the corresponding profile doesn't change with the changes of the presets. Do I need to do that manually in Color sync utilities every time?
This has been very helpful and very well produced. I have the datacolor spyder X system and so I will explore what options I may find for that. Thank you
Thank you for your videos, really helpful. Can you make a video calibrating in rec.709 gamma 2.4 100 nit and the difference between pure gamma and Apple's default HDTV video profile with gamma BT.1886 Annex 1 and system gamma boost of 1.22?
Everything is the same, just change the reference mode. There's no need for another video. Just choose REC709 for gamut and set the Transfer Function to 2.4 or BT1886, both are going to be so close that it just comes down to preference.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you but why Apple's default HDTV video profile with gamma BT.1886 Annex 1 is using system gamma boost of 1.22 instead of pure power?
Thanks for the detailed video. Question: on my MacBook Pro 16" M3, when performing the fine-tune calibration you show, I'm unable to input the full luminance value (100.244); it cuts off after 1 numeral past the decimal (100.2). Is this sufficient? Thanks
Hi Art, really amazing video! Question: I’ve created a few presets for editing, editing for printing etc . I also have to create a profile for each preset? Is it really necessary because each preset must be used with its own profile? Or a profile created with any preset (that is any luminance/white point value) work well with other preset? Thank you.
Hey do you/anybody know the recommendation for printing settings and keeping multiple calibration profiles? He mentions it when talking about setting the white balance and choosing the custom brightness 100 setting that the lower screen brightness of 50 is the best profile for printing. That would definitely make sense as I’m having an under exposure issue with printing while using ICC profiles and being calibrated correctly. Does anybody know if it’s normal to just switch back and forth between these display settings - ie staying on the 100 setting from this video but as I go to print switching to the 50 setting to make changes to the image for brightness and saturation. I’m toying with just staying in that setting.
2 variables: I never recommend brightness below 80 nits. You are losing a lot. I would look at the light source luminance that you are using as well. These are variables that are equally as important.
I’m sorry, I misspoke on part of that: I meant the d50 instead of d65 for printing and also using a lower lum like 80 nits if I’m having some dark exposure printing issues. How do you guys manage multiple settings? Like do you color grade in d65 with the settings you’ve made here and then when you want to print switch over to d50 and make adjustments? Thank you for your in depth videos, they’ve been revelatory.
Hi there! I have a new 27" studio display. I was trying to follow along with the video but got stuck at white point fine tuning CIE...you recommended choosing K, but I did not have as many options pop up in my menu as you did - and there was no K or kelvin to choose... Help! (?)
It could be that your device does not support these advanced function, only the i1Display Pro, i1Display Plus, Display Pro HL or Display Plus HL will support these function
Hi Art, Thanks so much for putting so much work into helping out on calibrating our monitors. I recently bought the 27" Appple Studio Display and run it on Sonoma 14.1.1 . Today I received the Calibrite Display Pro HL and I'm trying to walk through the process of calibrating. Yet when I come to fine tuning the calibration in system preferences I get an orange triangle with warning sign when giving in the whiitepoint target values. I cannot move on from there as I cannot click 'finish'. It is greyed out. Could you help me out on where I might have gone wrong or how to solve the issue. Thanks so much for your help and your great work. Greetings from Belgium.
Hi ! I have a 16 inch 2021 m1 max MBP running Sequoia 15.0.1 , I can't find the Mini LED option in the drop down menu. Also can't find the option Measure K . It stops in "Native" . I am using a Colormunki Display calibrator.
Ok so here is where I get super confused. So I do both photo and video. When I’m editing photos do I have to set the displays preset to my photography preset as well as set my icc profile to match? And then when I want to edit video, do I then have to switch my display preset to video as well as change the icc profile from photography to match my video preset? So I would be switching both the display preset and icc profile. Meaning I would have to calibrate the display independently for photo and video??? The bulk of my question is just how to do multiple things on the same machine.
Depending on the App that you use, Just stick with P3 and gamma 2.2 it is close enough to video 2.4 or BT1886 gamma and just go with it. You can simplified it this way. Once the content hits the web it really does not matter much anyways, displays out there are all over the place.
Just finding your channel. Excellently made videos. Good organization of steps and information pertaining to them as well. I'll definitely be subscribing and checking out your other videos!
Hi I'm back to do another calibration so I have to watch your video again to walk mr through the steps but I see I must of deleted the Factory colour profile as I was removing so old ones so I could only reset it from the current profile would that be wrong and if so where would I get the original factory profile again thx Doug
When you reset the profile to factory. It will automatically load in a base factory profile that you don't have to worry about. Plus, before you run the calibration the program would also apply a linear profile to your display so technically you don't even need to do the reset, but it's always a good precautionary measure to do it.
At 10:00, what is the meaning of measuring the existing white point of Apple calirbated display as the target of the calibration setting as you will calibrate the screen according a know white point? or is it for monitor to monitor matching?
The point of doing that is to fine-tune the calibration on your Mac display. All displays do not produce 100% accurate white points, which is why these pro displays from Apple enable you to change this. That is precisely what we are doing: measuring how much it is off by and correcting it.
Thank you for sharing! But I couldn't find the preset/settings that I need to do for the Mac OS Sonoma 14 - and then start this tutorial. Do you have this video?
If you print you should. And if you don't print but do pro work I would recommend using the reference mode and doing a white point fine tune to get the best result out of your Pro Display
Hi Art, how would you do a similar calibration to have the monitor at full brightness? I often have to crank the brightness all the way up to suit the location, I'm wondering how you would do that and maintain some form of accuracy. Thanks.
Hey Art! Great video. Do I have to calibrate for every luminance preset? Is the method different for a M4 running sequoia? I created a preset for 100 nits calibrated then created a preset for 120 nits. When I switch from 100 to 120 the color shifts dramatically. I don't believe this happened on my M!
Thanks for the great video. What should I do if I want to get back the brightness adjustment back and when I am not doing color correction? Should I change back the preset to apple XDR display?
I can't tell you how grateful I am. I really appreciate it. I did 2 different calibrations 1 day apart. On the first day I connected my calibration device (X-Rite i1 Display Pro) via USB, on the 2nd day I connected it via Thunderbolt. My suggestion for Apple Studio Display users like me: Do not plug the calibration device directly into the slots on the back of the monitor. Use a Thunderbolt connection.
Great video! to comment below about the newer HL calibrators... I have an older pro .. I suspect that is why my profile is not near as wide as the one you show when compared to the P3 profile? I guess another thing to buy...
I have the Display Plus. I followed the tutorial and the result is the same as yours -- the profile comparing to P3 is not as wide as shown in the tutorial.
Is there a way calibrate your monitor while maintaining the ability to change the brightness? I have horrible migraines and I really need to be able to dim the brightness sometimes
Display Pro HL is the device, I think you mean software, yes it will work with previous gen devices, however, they are not fully optimized for miniLED and XDR Displays
Hi Art, with a little delay I'm updating the calibration of my Studio Dislpay! Thank you very much for your precious videos. A question please: my printer recommends " the color temperature must be set to 5,000 Kelvin (D50)". When calibrating the white point, do the XY coordinates vary compared to a D65 used in the video? or can I always use x:0.3127;y:0.3290. Thank you very much for your time and for the feedback. Chris
the value that I gave is only for D65, D50 uses a different value. I have to verify that value before I can give it to you. DM me as a follow up for this
@@ArtIsRight Only Calibrite newest Display Pro HL and Display Plus HL are capable of profiling miniLED backlight displays such as Apple Liquid Retina XDR displays. All previous Calibrite / X-Rite devices are not capable of calibrating any miniLED backlight display including Apple Liquid Retina XDR inside the 14" & 16" MacBook Pro.
I have a question I cannot find an answer to. I have an x-rite pro calibrator and I have been calibrating my monitors for well over 15 years. I get that the new hardware will profile the new 16" displays fully. I have not gotten a new device yet, and I am so far finding the presets pretty close, I am not doing super color critical work at the moment. in the meantime before I can get a new device, can I use my old one to at least measure brightness for the fine tuning amount? would it be accurate for that. I know my colors will not be calibrated to the standards I have used forever, but I would like to fine-tune a preset though for the moment. appreciate all the info you do, lets us understand the hardware and color is doing on them for sure.
@@ArtIsRight thank you, Art. I'll do this and report back. Although I understand how long it takes to make video, Video would be amazing. Plus, I love watching your videos. Another reason to just keep watching the greatness!
Hi @artisright, another question. When I do calibration with video options and now I want to edit photos, do I just simply select or change profile from calibrite software and then also select photography peset? Or will this mess up fine tuning of previous photography preset and now I have to do the whole photography process again and so on?
Thank you very much for a detailed tutorial on calibrating MBP. I will try this out. Please bring out more tutorials of Lr CC to keep it fast and catelog management on MBP
If I have made three profiles, one for photos with sRGB, other with P3 and another for video with Rec.709 , would I just be able to switch between these three profiles from apple settings or this will need to be done via color sync utility or calibrite profiler?
Hey Art! Great videos you're producing - just got myself a Calibrite Display Plus HL for my MacBook Pro and everything worked fine, the only thing that I haven't figured out is why the delete button is greyed out in the profile manager - I cannot delete profiles in there... (OS X Sonoma) any idea as to how to fix that? I tried giving the calibrite profiler full access to the hard disk, but that didn't help...
Hi Art, wonderful video. You said that the ICC profile will remain even if you change reference modes. Does this mean we will have to do separate calibrations if we're in a hybrid HDR video and photo workflow? And then just switch the profiles inside of Calibrite? Or would this be too inconsistent? Thanks a ton.
Hi@@ArtIsRight , have you tried Patterns for Mac by Calman? They claim to have full HDR test pattern and calibration for Pro Display XDR. Not sure if you need Calman Studio ($2,000) though. Thanks
You are amazing. This is gold. Already have my SDR workflow setup. I do have a question, if you can help me out. What would be the proper or best workflow for calibrating a MBP XDR screen for HDR starting from the HDR mode? I have the HL Plus which would be able to enable this. But still not sure how to setup the software properly for this purpose. Thanks!
At this point in time, there's not much that can be done. Essentially none of the consumers devices on the market is capable of HDR REC 2020 calibration yet.
@@javierbaergabe careful, my experience with this device is that it disables HDR (clips to SDR) on MacOS - Windows seems ok. May be a conflict between MacOS and Profiler. The older ccStudio output from i1Studio doesn’t harm HDR on my Mac. I assume this will get resolved in time.
Would it be advised to follow the same steps to ensure an external monitor also matches a calibrated MacBook Pro Display ? So basically doing these steps first on my MacBook Pro, then doing the same steps again on the external ?
Incredible video, thank you for your efforts. I have a question. Currently, I have a Color Checker Display that is unsuitable for XDR screen calibration, as far as I know. But I still created a preset from Photography with Luminance 100, as the default one is too bright. The question is: Is the new preset with L100 is good without calibration for photo editing (mainly landscapes and macro) and printing (PIXMA Pro-200)?
I would say custom preset with display finetuned without calibration is still much better than just creating a preset without any finetuned. Do you need to calibrate, you can the dispaly would be slightly warmer. Apple always calibrate their display toward the blue side.
For Apple Studio Display + Calibrite ColorChecker Display Pro, is it better to use GB-LED or White LED? X-Rite recommends White LED instead you recommends GB-LED. I tested the two technologies and they give me the same White point coordinate and luminance values. Why?
GB-LED, I mentioned this in the video. Either one will do really. And white point being the same is expected. Choosing the display tech does not effect white point for most display tech.
Great video. I'm using Sonoma with a Display Pro HL on my M2 Max setting this at P3-D65. The measurement on the luminance was 167.684 and I was only able to input 167.6 or 167.7 as the range is limiting me to one character to the right of the decimal point. When I put the target, setting it to 100, I get an orange triangle. It does not allow me to enter in 80, 90 or even 150. Please advise. Many thanks!
The issue is that P3-D65 default is around 160 nits. You can't change that. This is the reason why you need to create a custom preset with the luminance that you want. This guide walks your through this. I would follow the beginning part of this guide.
That sounds like a pre-calibration profile, don't think you can and if you should, why would you want that, it is a non specific profile that does not conform to your display gamut.
I currently own an X-Rite i1 Studio (the photospectrometer you can also use for profiling printers) and asked the Calibrite support whether this device would be able to calibrate the display of of those new Macbook screens. A day or two later they answered that it could be done using their ccStudio application. Art on the other hand say that one of their new devices is required for those Mini LED displays. What is right?
Hi, i have a problem after finising calibration. I have MB Pro M3, and after calibration, icc profile doesn't show up on the list with profiles in settings. Does anyone know what could be wrong?
there are so many things that can happen, and many more vairables information that we don't know. I would start with an updated calibration software and go from there. As far as the profile not showing up did you check color sync utility, devices, display and then choose your display?
Thanks for the video. Is using those HL devices the only way? I have MacbookPro M2 14" and the ColorMunki display, those HL devices are pricy for me. Choosing "White LED" and P3 will lead me to incorrect results or is anything more to consider?
HL is the only way. You can successfully calibrate with other devices, and also other backlight technology. However, what you're going to get is an ICC profile is much smaller than the color gamut. The display is able to produce.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much for the answer, I'll use the default icc profile then and the "Photography" mode in the screens configuration by now (I hope is a decent choice). Seems I need to save for the HL device and get it later, have a great day!
Wonder if you can help me. I own the Macbook Pro 14" M2 Pro and and Asus Proart Pa279CV monitor, I also own a 65" LG OLED (4k 120hz). I wanted to sell my Proart as the screen isnt big enough and being an LED monitor, looks nothing like the macbook ( i think its to do with the blacks being not as dark as the OLED and Mini LED), even in rec 709 mode. Can these newer devices calibrate the Macbook AND the LG OLED? Ive tried plugging the Macbook into the LG OLED and the colours look a little green compared to the Macbook. Just want to get a really accurate screen on the laptop for when i'm out and about but also be able to hook it up to the OLED when at home for the real estate. Brilliant video btw :)
It would be one of those; you do both. If you want to skip fine-tune, you can. Based on my tests, the results are close to each other with or without fine-tuned calibration, when using Calibrite Profilier
I think that if you want to calibrate to srgb or rec709 using the older device models is fine? Just have to chose PSF Phosphor as display type. At least that is what I read in the calibrate app.
Yes and you can calibrate as well but you won't have MiniLED as a backlight option and that has adverse effect on the icc generated. But for the measurement alone, yes you'll be fine.
My 16" MBP running Sonoma 14.5 gives an error warning about halfway through the process and exits measurement. I have updated to the new version of Calibrite, Profiler 1.3.2. and the version check says I'm Up to date. I tried twice. Thanks for your help.
I have tried the latest version with Sonoma 14.5 and it works on my systems. I would think something might be going on with the OS or interference in the background or software.
Hi Art! Thank you for such a thorough video. At what step would you start at for updating the calibration? Would you need to start the whole process over? Or just that last color step?
nice video! I recently got a canon pro 1000 printer and have been researching external monitors for my MacBook Pro m2 16 inch xdr. Im finding it hard to come up with a solution. So I may give this a shot first for printing. Do you have any recommendations for external monitors that work great with the MacBook pros that are designed for printing in mind? I have looked at the ben q, and eizo monitors but I am somewhat confused at what would work best. Thank you for any advice.
Hi Art, I'm trying to calibrate my MacBook Pro M3. In ColorSync under display, devices, current profile, set to factory is grayed out. the only option is "other," which opens up Finder. Is there anything I need to do to make set to factory active and choose it? Thank you for your help.
Yes I’m considering upgrading to the MacBook m3 pro. If this is the case, would HL be best option? Would I be able to use the late 2014 iMac as an external screen? I read that it’s not possible…but would still like to keep the iMac as it’s still working so well so wanna make sure the calibrator I invest in would work on all
Mine is usually about 3.5, which is not great but not too bad either. 5 is huge. I have not tested this in a while, I'll give it another go. Follow up with a new comment thread sometime late next week or dm me.
In short, you can't. because that sensor cannot measure MiniLED backlight. The long answer is that it will calibrate but you won't get the full color gamut that the display can show
so I followed your guide to the best of my ability. Have calibrated my macs for almost 20 years. Seeming to get a max delta E of 4 despite multiple rounds of calibration with the 400+ patch setting. Any best practices or missed steps to get it lower? 16" M1 Macbook Pro
No that is on the higher side but that is about the range on the max ∆e patch. I'm sure you did fine. If you like to share the calibration report result with me, feel free to dm
Any link to calibrate iMac 27" 5K 2017 with the new Display PLUS HL? I bought it.. tryed to match with my MacBook Pro 14" M2 2023 and the colors are completely different..
ruclips.net/video/8vj6XuEmQhs/видео.html and you can't really. different back light. the only thing that you can do is manipulate one heavily to match the other, to which then one would then again ask which one is correct?
This was a great video. Thanks. Only issues I had was I had to google the X Y point target values because I was using D50 as I am doing more print work. I used X = 0.34567 and Y = 0.35952 target values. For some reason my 2023 Apple Studio 5k Display came up with a warning triangle for Luminance target value of 100 (no idea why) so I had to go as low as 90 as instructed in this video.
In MacOS Sonoma there is a weird issue with the Colorsync Utility on my new MBP. When I reset the icc profile to factory default a window pops up and requires me to enter my admin password. No problem here. But if I want to select a specific icc profile (e.g. the one I created following this tutorial) after selecting the profile the same window pops up, but this time it does not let me type my password. My username is already entered, click in the field below it, start typing, but nothing happenes. As a workaround I copied some random short text and pasted it into the password field. I am then allowed to use the backspace key on my keybord and after manually deleting the copied text I can start typing my password.
First of all. Thank you for your quick replies. So what happened is, that after completing the final calibration in Calibrite Profiler but before leaving the software my monitor turned yellow. External monitor works fine fortunately. Changing colorprofiles does not help at now I have no collars on the XDR display. Actually I have seen this before when calibrating for some of my students. Is the a bug in Calibrite and can I restore it. I don't have time machine
I have a display pro color checker and with the MacBook Pro 14" mini led is not available. Do you recommend using white LED instead with calibrite profiler instead or just stick with the factory calibration?
Quick question: I went through the guide, calibrated my screen, and had a new color profile set. My Question - can I switch between presets / reference modes depending on the task I'm currently performing? (For example, "Photography (P3-D65) L100" for Lightroom editing, and Apple XDR Display (P3-1600 Nits) for everything else). I'm worried that in changing presets back-and-forth, I'm damaging / reversing the color calibration I just performed....
Yes you can switch dynamically, no damage, just a different preset. Profile will carry through to all of the other reference mode as well. But you are good
Hey. Thanks so much for this guide. I followed your steps and all went well. However, when I compare the P3 gamut with my created profile in the final step, my user gamut is much smaller than the P3 one. Any idea why this is? Using MacBook Pro M1 with the Calibrite Pro HL on Sequoia.
Hi, Art, I really appreciate your videos. I have a question that may been answered, but I can’t find an answer: Does each custom reference mode require its own custom profile, as I suspect is required? If so, is there a quick and easy way to switch profiles when changing reference modes? Eg. Going from photography to video editing. When switching modes on the BenQ SW272Q automatically switches the associated profiles (most of the time). Thanks for all the amazing content and your contribution.
"Does each custom reference mode require its own custom profile, as I suspect is required? If so, is there a quick and easy way to switch profiles when changing reference modes? Eg. Going from photography to video editing." Depending on how much the setting changes, power transfer function aka gamma, gamut and etc. So technically you should. But the variation are so small going from photo to video that I would just say choose a standard and go with that. i.e. I edit all of my video on photo standard. What it comes down to is that we are not doing work for million $ Hollywood production and I have seen some of those individual workflow that are know to be expert color grading house do away with less that what you are doing now. And no there's no way to switch the mode and have the icc change. On BenQ yes it will do that.
@@ArtIsRight HI, Art. I wanted to check with you regarding multiple reference modes, calibrations, and profiles. I currently use the P3-D65 Reference Mode (customized) on my MacBook Pro. I have that fine-tune calibrated and then calibrated/profiled using Calibrite software and the Display Plus HL. If I choose to also use another reference mode, am I able to Fine Tune calibrate using Mac OS as well (for the new Reference Mode settings) or will that overwrite the Fine Tune Calibration that I had already done for the P3-D65 Reference Mode? Further to this, if I can't do a second, separate Fine-Tune adjustment without deleting the first, what would I select in the Calibrate software for White Point and Luminance, as the Native setting which I used when setting up the P3-D65 Reference Mode would no longer be accurate given that I'm using different settings? Would I select Measured in each or select Temperature and Custom Luminance or some other settings? It would be amazing if you did another video tutorial on this showing how to setup a second customized Reference Mode and multiple profiles. Thanks for all your work and contribution.
Hi, Art, this is a terrific tutorial. Do you have an older calibration tutorial for the Intel iMac 5K Retina display and using the i1 Display calibration tool? If not, is it worth your time to help out how it can be accomplished?
1. I am calibrating with older i1 Display Plus set to WhiteLED as MiniLED option is not available. It would be nice if you could compare calibration with older calibrator and measure with new HL to check if there is really any difference in deltas. 2. There is bug (Sonoma 14.0) that any change of preset or logging out set picture profile back to factory. ColorSync says that custom profile is set properly but I can see with naked eye that colours are off. I need to set current profile again to the same custom one and can see colours change to correct ones. 3. It is a shame that presets are not assigned to colour profiles. I would like to use multiple presets for photography and every day use but profiles does not change for them. I need to change profiles manually or have only one preset truly calibrated.
1. Only the HL devices have MiniLED option. Yes difference in gamut is huge, no need to compared, did many videos on this already and have been advocating on this. 2. This may be a local install issue. I have not observed this fleet wide and not on my fleet of machines. 3. I hear you but these are 2 totally different things and works on totally different fundamentals.
@@ArtIsRight Hello! I have on XDR display but my main proofing monitors are older Eizos and an Apple Cinema display. I have read that the SL is more sensitive in low end and the HL are not as sensitive, sacrificing some range for the high end sensitivity. Have you found this to be true? Would you have two seperate meters one for XDR and one for older monitors, or do you feel the HL is sufficient for both? Thank you
Thanks for the great video. I have an m2 mbp and display pro hl.. I’ve tried 3 times now, with good results on the validation, however the gamut is way smaller than P3.. any ideas would be most appreciated!
Thanks-I did use mini led.. I ran it another time from the very beginning using max patches for calibration and validation, and now looks like the results you achieved. Thanks again!
Only Calibrite newest Display Pro HL and Display Plus HL are capable of profiling miniLED backlight displays such as Apple Liquid Retina XDR displays. All previous Calibrite / X-Rite devices are not capable of calibrating any miniLED backlight display including Apple Liquid Retina XDR inside the 14" & 16" MacBook Pro.
I know you say "aren't capable" but can we use the GB LED option and use the original Display Plus? I JUST bought it earlier this year when I got my 16" M2 and these Plus HL weren't out yet when I bought the Display Plus.
7:01 can you explain what you mean here???
I have the same question@@ProfessorStone
would love to know too!
What about going a calibration with the calibrate pro unit? 🙆🏻♀️
Hello Art, I hope all is well. I just calibrated my Apple MBP M1 Max with Sonoma version 14.4.1 with the Calibrite Display Plus HL. I followed your instructions step by step. My machine did have a slight difference from the factory profile to the now calibrated profile. My validation returned an Average, All patches as 0.5 and Maximum, All patches at 2.9. Thank you so much for sharing this educational video for us who are not too familiar with all the technicalities in making the proper screen calibration on these MBP with the Retina screens. As a photographer, I am appreciative for all the work you do to provide us with these amazing educational videos to better display colors on the MBP screen. Kind regards, Kevin.
Thank you!
Hi Kevin! Would you mind sharing which settings you followed? I didn't find the video about MacOS SONOMA 14.X (he mentioned at minute 2:16 that we need to change some settings according to MacOS)
@@4ndressa957 Hello, I apologize for the delayed response. I have Sonoma OS therefore I followed these settings ruclips.net/video/UQs4y26ZULM/видео.html
What an amazing and professional explanation. I am deeply grateful. As a photographer, you want to know exactly what you see on your screen. Thank you so much!
Thank you!
Thank you this helped a ton !!
You're welcome!
¡Gracias!
You're Welcome!
Good afternoon. Tell me, please, does the Calibrite PROFILER program support thespectrophotometer?
yes, but they may be building the support for it. I have to check
@@ArtIsRight Thanks, I will be waiting for your feedback. I have the opportunity to buy X-rite 1 Basic pro 2 on the secondary market.
For that no, none of the Pro Spectrophotometer are supported. The only that's support is the Color Munki Photo / i1Studio / ColorChecker Studio devices (they are all the same). For that pro device you would still use i1Profiler. However, X-Rite has ended support for the i1Pro series already, so I would not advise that you get it. I would look at the i1Pro 2 or 3
@@ArtIsRight Have you thought about the i1 Pro? I asked about the support for the i1 Pro 2 Basic. Does Calibrite PROFILER support the i1 Pro 2 Basic?
Same answer, Calibrite Profilier will not support that, and you have to use i1Profilier those are consider X-Rite pro devices. The only spectro that Calibrite Profilier support is the i1studio device
Hello Art, thank you very much for the great tutorial and for the effort to answer to our questions.
I do have some questions:
1. After creating a profile for a few different (in brightness) photography presets, I have noticed that even though this profile is still active while using the default P3 presets with brightness adjustment, the contrast on these presets differs from that of the specialised presets. When testing on the "Black Level" page of Lagom, XDR preset crushes the blacks noticebly, so there is some gamma shift going on switching between the default presets and the workflow presets. Any way to correct the gamma on the default presets?
2. Looking at the gamma chart provided by Lagom, the gamma is super off in all my browser, but after downloading the image it does look right from the Preview app. On a Windows machine I didn't have this problem.
3. After calibrating both the macbook display and perfoming a hardware calibration on an EIZO ColorEdge Monitor with the same device, the EIZO looked noticebly more magenta/reddish, especially in skin tones. I have then decided to manually reduce the red output on the eizo to match visually that of the apple display, but I'm not sure which is more correct - the specialized monitor or the apple display. Do these Green-Magenta differences actually matter a lot, since our perception of white balance changes based on our surroundings?
Thank you!
Ive just done my own testing, and i can say that Apple STILL not loading profiles correctly when restarting. I've just created a really bad profile like make everything washed out, so after i change resolution or restart my computer it KINDA goes back to apple default profile, BUT not same as going again into calibrite PROFILER and applying the profile again.
I dont understand why you saying that after restart it applies the profile, visually it kinda HALF applied
Here more litterly the issue I'm having g this ICC profiles not sticking you will see
That is a bug in some OS. Hopefully this will get fix soon...
Hi, I have the same problem here with my MBP 16 M3 max, as soon as I restart or switch to the XDR 1600 nit profile and come back to photography P3 L100 the icc profile reverts to lcd colors while on colorsync it shows me the icc profile created by calibrite, each time I have to click on reset to default and then on calibrite "profile management" to click on activate on the icc profile I created with my display plus HL so that the colors change and my profile is activated correctly. This must be a Mac os sonoma problem?
Hello, first of all, thank you for the detailed video.
Unfortunately, it no longer works as described, apparently due to a change in MacOS.
If you select a profile (e.g. Photo P3 D65), you can use the fine adjustment. However, if you duplicate the profile as described and save it (in my case with 120 cd and sRGB), then there is no fine adjustment. In the menu, the fine adjustment is grayed out and there is only "full calibration". And this cannot be done with Calibrite Pro because the sensor is not recognized (by MacOS). I use MacBook Pro M4Pro 16" with latest MacOS Seq.
Thank you for this very complete and detailed tutorial. It helped me understand how to calibrate the screen on my MBP M2 Max.
You are welcome!
Thanks for an awesome video! Learned a lot! I'm very new to this but have bought me a Display Plus. When making presets for my Pro Display XDR, I've measured two profiles (one for photo and one for Video) with the settings adjusted for each. I can see them in the system settings/display and change them there. But when I look in Color Sync Utility the corresponding profile doesn't change with the changes of the presets. Do I need to do that manually in Color sync utilities every time?
Thank you Art!! I really appreciate these videos you do! And love the purple!!!! :)
You are so welcome!
dude... I really love your videos! so well explained! many thanks!
Thank you!
This has been very helpful and very well produced. I have the datacolor spyder X system and so I will explore what options I may find for that. Thank you
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X can't really calibrate these, it would have to be the X2. I mean you can but you'll have smaller color gamut
Thank you for your videos, really helpful. Can you make a video calibrating in rec.709 gamma 2.4 100 nit and the difference between pure gamma and Apple's default HDTV video profile with gamma BT.1886 Annex 1 and system gamma boost of 1.22?
I've been wondering exactly this too.
Everything is the same, just change the reference mode. There's no need for another video. Just choose REC709 for gamut and set the Transfer Function to 2.4 or BT1886, both are going to be so close that it just comes down to preference.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you but why Apple's default HDTV video profile with gamma BT.1886 Annex 1 is using system gamma boost of 1.22 instead of pure power?
That is a fiction of BT1886 if you want to use that you can. BT1886 is a gamma curve and it is not 2.2. So in this case it correspond to 1.22
You mean here? ruclips.net/video/PLB93k9UYWc/видео.htmlsi=OHCHLNxLE7evf0pz&t=297. Thanks!@@ArtIsRight
Thanks for the detailed video. Question: on my MacBook Pro 16" M3, when performing the fine-tune calibration you show, I'm unable to input the full luminance value (100.244); it cuts off after 1 numeral past the decimal (100.2). Is this sufficient? Thanks
Yes that is fine :)
Hi Art, really amazing video!
Question: I’ve created a few presets for editing, editing for printing etc . I also have to create a profile for each preset? Is it really necessary because each preset must be used with its own profile? Or a profile created with any preset (that is any luminance/white point value) work well with other preset? Thank you.
if your preset does not change the white point, you don't need to change the profile.
Hey do you/anybody know the recommendation for printing settings and keeping multiple calibration profiles? He mentions it when talking about setting the white balance and choosing the custom brightness 100 setting that the lower screen brightness of 50 is the best profile for printing. That would definitely make sense as I’m having an under exposure issue with printing while using ICC profiles and being calibrated correctly. Does anybody know if it’s normal to just switch back and forth between these display settings - ie staying on the 100 setting from this video but as I go to print switching to the 50 setting to make changes to the image for brightness and saturation. I’m toying with just staying in that setting.
2 variables: I never recommend brightness below 80 nits. You are losing a lot. I would look at the light source luminance that you are using as well. These are variables that are equally as important.
I’m sorry, I misspoke on part of that: I meant the d50 instead of d65 for printing and also using a lower lum like 80 nits if I’m having some dark exposure printing issues.
How do you guys manage multiple settings? Like do you color grade in d65 with the settings you’ve made here and then when you want to print switch over to d50 and make adjustments?
Thank you for your in depth videos, they’ve been revelatory.
I just stick with D65 and call it the day. I never found D50 useful, just more of a pain
Thank you for sharing your expertise!
Hi there! I have a new 27" studio display. I was trying to follow along with the video but got stuck at white point fine tuning CIE...you recommended choosing K, but I did not have as many options pop up in my menu as you did - and there was no K or kelvin to choose... Help! (?)
It could be that your device does not support these advanced function, only the i1Display Pro, i1Display Plus, Display Pro HL or Display Plus HL will support these function
Thank you so much for your video, it was a tremendous help in setting the white point.
You're welcome!
Hi Art,
Thanks so much for putting so much work into helping out on calibrating our monitors. I recently bought the 27" Appple Studio Display and run it on Sonoma 14.1.1 . Today I received the Calibrite Display Pro HL and I'm trying to walk through the process of calibrating. Yet when I come to fine tuning the calibration in system preferences I get an orange triangle with warning sign when giving in the whiitepoint target values. I cannot move on from there as I cannot click 'finish'. It is greyed out. Could you help me out on where I might have gone wrong or how to solve the issue.
Thanks so much for your help and your great work. Greetings from Belgium.
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Hi ! I have a 16 inch 2021 m1 max MBP running Sequoia 15.0.1 , I can't find the Mini LED option in the drop down menu. Also can't find the option Measure K . It stops in "Native" . I am using a Colormunki Display calibrator.
That is why, "Colormunki" is no a pro device and I did said in the beginning of this video that only the Display Pro HL or Display Plus HL will work.
As usual-a brilliant and clear demonstration! Thanks, Art!
Thank you!
Ok so here is where I get super confused. So I do both photo and video. When I’m editing photos do I have to set the displays preset to my photography preset as well as set my icc profile to match? And then when I want to edit video, do I then have to switch my display preset to video as well as change the icc profile from photography to match my video preset? So I would be switching both the display preset and icc profile. Meaning I would have to calibrate the display independently for photo and video??? The bulk of my question is just how to do multiple things on the same machine.
Depending on the App that you use, Just stick with P3 and gamma 2.2 it is close enough to video 2.4 or BT1886 gamma and just go with it. You can simplified it this way. Once the content hits the web it really does not matter much anyways, displays out there are all over the place.
@@ArtIsRight oh ok perfect. Thank you for the info as well as all the helpful videos you produce!
Thank you!
I wonder if Display Cal will be updated for Sequoia?
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Just finding your channel. Excellently made videos. Good organization of steps and information pertaining to them as well. I'll definitely be subscribing and checking out your other videos!
Thank you
I'm on the exact same LapTop as you but there's no mini led option in Calibrite Profiler
you need Calibrite newest Display Pro HL or Display Plus HL
Great Tutorial, what is if you want to adjust the brightness again since it is no longer an option with the way you calibrated?
Change the mode to Apple display XDR
Hi I'm back to do another calibration so I have to watch your video again to walk mr through the steps but I see I must of deleted the Factory colour profile as I was removing so old ones so I could only reset it from the current profile would that be wrong and if so where would I get the original factory profile again thx Doug
When you reset the profile to factory. It will automatically load in a base factory profile that you don't have to worry about. Plus, before you run the calibration the program would also apply a linear profile to your display so technically you don't even need to do the reset, but it's always a good precautionary measure to do it.
@@ArtIsRight ok thx for your reply its awesome
At 10:00, what is the meaning of measuring the existing white point of Apple calirbated display as the target of the calibration setting as you will calibrate the screen according a know white point? or is it for monitor to monitor matching?
The point of doing that is to fine-tune the calibration on your Mac display. All displays do not produce 100% accurate white points, which is why these pro displays from Apple enable you to change this. That is precisely what we are doing: measuring how much it is off by and correcting it.
great video, but when I did comparison of profiles my new one was much smaller than the P3...what to do...
What device are you using?
This is my problem too with m2 mbp…and display pro hl.. any ideas would be most welcome!
Thanks
Thank you for sharing! But I couldn't find the preset/settings that I need to do for the Mac OS Sonoma 14 - and then start this tutorial. Do you have this video?
Some minor change in the interface ruclips.net/video/UQs4y26ZULM/видео.html
Thank you so much, I have MacBook Pro 14 do I need to calibrate it For photography?
If you print you should. And if you don't print but do pro work I would recommend using the reference mode and doing a white point fine tune to get the best result out of your Pro Display
Hi Art, how would you do a similar calibration to have the monitor at full brightness? I often have to crank the brightness all the way up to suit the location, I'm wondering how you would do that and maintain some form of accuracy. Thanks.
You can just simply tuned it up, the colors are going to be close enough :)
Just lost all colours on my mac after following your instructions. It doesn't help to change the display profiles. Help
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Amazing. And crying here because I'll need to retire my good and old Colormunki Photo
:)
Hey Art!
Great video.
Do I have to calibrate for every luminance preset? Is the method different for a M4 running sequoia? I created a preset for 100 nits calibrated then created a preset for 120 nits. When I switch from 100 to 120 the color shifts dramatically. I don't believe this happened on my M!
No just the primary one you are using. The variation between 100 and 120 is extremely small
Thanks for the great video. What should I do if I want to get back the brightness adjustment back and when I am not doing color correction? Should I change back the preset to apple XDR display?
That is correct
I can't tell you how grateful I am. I really appreciate it. I did 2 different calibrations 1 day apart. On the first day I connected my calibration device (X-Rite i1 Display Pro) via USB, on the 2nd day I connected it via Thunderbolt. My suggestion for Apple Studio Display users like me: Do not plug the calibration device directly into the slots on the back of the monitor. Use a Thunderbolt connection.
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Great video! to comment below about the newer HL calibrators... I have an older pro .. I suspect that is why my profile is not near as wide as the one you show when compared to the P3 profile? I guess another thing to buy...
That is correct, older device don't have the capability to properly profile these miniLED backlight displays.
I have the Display Plus. I followed the tutorial and the result is the same as yours -- the profile comparing to P3 is not as wide as shown in the tutorial.
Is there a way calibrate your monitor while maintaining the ability to change the brightness? I have horrible migraines and I really need to be able to dim the brightness sometimes
Sure calibrate it and then put it back into one of the non pro mode.
Hello, I'm completely new to this and I'm wondering if it's possible to calibrate your screen without the purchase of a calibrite device?
No to fully calbirate you need a device, but you can simply use refrence mode. Create a preset and you good.
So excited about this new update as this year I purchased the MBP 14". I assume this new Display Pro HL works with previous devices as well.
Display Pro HL is the device, I think you mean software, yes it will work with previous gen devices, however, they are not fully optimized for miniLED and XDR Displays
@@ArtIsRight I bought the Display Plus HL and did the calibration on my MacBook Pro 14" M2. Should I go the same process for my iMac 2017?
@@josemanuelalordayes except the 2017 iMac is not a mini led. It’s white LED I believe.
Does mini LED display have lower lights to the borders ? Like vignette feel
Not necessary but it can be perceived that way for some
Hey Art, awesome video.... what is the difference between the Display Pro HL and the Display Plus HL?
Pro HL up to 2000 Nits, Plus HL up to 10000 nits and will have the capability to do HDR calibration when ready.
Hi, just found this tutorial, can I ask if these calibration tools will work on the MacBook Pro 16inch M3
Yes same through out
Hi Art, with a little delay I'm updating the calibration of my Studio Dislpay! Thank you very much for your precious videos. A question please: my printer recommends "
the color temperature must be set to 5,000 Kelvin (D50)". When calibrating the white point, do the XY coordinates vary compared to a D65 used in the video? or can I always use x:0.3127;y:0.3290. Thank you very much for your time and for the feedback. Chris
the value that I gave is only for D65, D50 uses a different value. I have to verify that value before I can give it to you. DM me as a follow up for this
@@ArtIsRight Only Calibrite newest Display Pro HL and Display Plus HL are capable of profiling miniLED backlight displays such as Apple Liquid Retina XDR displays. All previous Calibrite / X-Rite devices are not capable of calibrating any miniLED backlight display including Apple Liquid Retina XDR inside the 14" & 16" MacBook Pro.
@@ci3828that’s correct.
I have a question I cannot find an answer to. I have an x-rite pro calibrator and I have been calibrating my monitors for well over 15 years. I get that the new hardware will profile the new 16" displays fully. I have not gotten a new device yet, and I am so far finding the presets pretty close, I am not doing super color critical work at the moment. in the meantime before I can get a new device, can I use my old one to at least measure brightness for the fine tuning amount? would it be accurate for that. I know my colors will not be calibrated to the standards I have used forever, but I would like to fine-tune a preset though for the moment.
appreciate all the info you do, lets us understand the hardware and color is doing on them for sure.
"n the meantime before I can get a new device, can I use my old one to at least measure brightness for the fine tuning amount?"
Yes
Do you have a video on calibration for a 16” Apple MacBook Pro M3 Max running Sonoma 14.4. Thank you.
similar process, only some changes in the GUI. This would be a good video that would supplement the GUI changes, otherwise process is the same
@@ArtIsRight what is the GUI? Is there anything that I need to change before I follow along with this video and try to calibrate. Thank you.
Hi Art, can you make a video for video calibration in Calibrite and Pallette master ultimate?
I'll see what I can do; for the time being, choose REC 709 for video workflow and gamma 2.4 or BT1886. Same thing for PMU
@@ArtIsRight thank you, Art. I'll do this and report back. Although I understand how long it takes to make video, Video would be amazing. Plus, I love watching your videos. Another reason to just keep watching the greatness!
Hi @artisright, another question.
When I do calibration with video options and now I want to edit photos, do I just simply select or change profile from calibrite software and then also select photography peset? Or will this mess up fine tuning of previous photography preset and now I have to do the whole photography process again and so on?
Do you have a video to calibrate the older MacBook Pro like those 13” of 2018?
ruclips.net/video/8vj6XuEmQhs/видео.html
Thank you very much for a detailed tutorial on calibrating MBP. I will try this out. Please bring out more tutorials of Lr CC to keep it fast and catelog management on MBP
I'll see what I can do
If I have made three profiles, one for photos with sRGB, other with P3 and another for video with Rec.709 , would I just be able to switch between these three profiles from apple settings or this will need to be done via color sync utility or calibrite profiler?
If you make 3 presets and a profile for all 3 settings, you would need to change the profile in the color sync utility as well.
What display to choose when you don't have HL calibrator? I have the display plus.
You can use PFS but you won't get full gamut
Hey Art! Great videos you're producing - just got myself a Calibrite Display Plus HL for my MacBook Pro and everything worked fine, the only thing that I haven't figured out is why the delete button is greyed out in the profile manager - I cannot delete profiles in there... (OS X Sonoma) any idea as to how to fix that? I tried giving the calibrite profiler full access to the hard disk, but that didn't help...
Not sure, but you can always go into the profile folder and just delete the one you are not going to use manually, that might be easier.
@@ArtIsRight Will do, thanks for the fast answer!
Hi Art, wonderful video. You said that the ICC profile will remain even if you change reference modes. Does this mean we will have to do separate calibrations if we're in a hybrid HDR video and photo workflow? And then just switch the profiles inside of Calibrite? Or would this be too inconsistent? Thanks a ton.
There's no profiling for HDR right now, no consumer software can do that at the moment.
@@ArtIsRight so what’s the best way for ensuring color accuracy for HDR? No calibration, just white point adjustment? Thanks
Yes
Hi@@ArtIsRight , have you tried Patterns for Mac by Calman? They claim to have full HDR test pattern and calibration for Pro Display XDR. Not sure if you need Calman Studio ($2,000) though. Thanks
You are amazing. This is gold. Already have my SDR workflow setup. I do have a question, if you can help me out. What would be the proper or best workflow for calibrating a MBP XDR screen for HDR starting from the HDR mode? I have the HL Plus which would be able to enable this. But still not sure how to setup the software properly for this purpose. Thanks!
At this point in time, there's not much that can be done. Essentially none of the consumers devices on the market is capable of HDR REC 2020 calibration yet.
I see. So, at this point technically use the HDR mode on the XDR and hope the SDR profiling helps?
Somewhat. HDR is still largely a mess right now
@@javierbaergabe careful, my experience with this device is that it disables HDR (clips to SDR) on MacOS - Windows seems ok. May be a conflict between MacOS and Profiler. The older ccStudio output from i1Studio doesn’t harm HDR on my Mac. I assume this will get resolved in time.
@@gregbenzphotography thanks a lot for the heads up
Awesome tutorial, very well detailed and explained. Can you do one explaining how to calibrate the MBP M2 Max 16" for Video editing??
Change the preset to REC 709 use BT 1886 for power transfer and set the luminance between 80-120 nits, your choice.
That was fast! You’re the man, thank you. Now I just have to Purchase the Display Plus HL because I have the ColorChecker Display Plus
There’s a critical update about software on June 2024. Is there any difference ? Thanks in advance.
I think there may be some slight change in the color algorithm, I'm getting better ∆e in my tests.
@@ArtIsRight thank you !
Would it be advised to follow the same steps to ensure an external monitor also matches a calibrated MacBook Pro Display ? So basically doing these steps first on my MacBook Pro, then doing the same steps again on the external ?
Depending on the external, but don't expect a match
Incredible video, thank you for your efforts. I have a question. Currently, I have a Color Checker Display that is unsuitable for XDR screen calibration, as far as I know. But I still created a preset from Photography with Luminance 100, as the default one is too bright. The question is: Is the new preset with L100 is good without calibration for photo editing (mainly landscapes and macro) and printing (PIXMA Pro-200)?
I would also love to know the answer to this q!
I would say custom preset with display finetuned without calibration is still much better than just creating a preset without any finetuned. Do you need to calibrate, you can the dispaly would be slightly warmer. Apple always calibrate their display toward the blue side.
@@ArtIsRight you're right. anyway, decided to order Pro HL and will get it today. I think I will need it if I'm gonna print my photos
Fantastic video, thank you very much !
Thank you
Can you do one for Video Editing. Deliverable for Web and Social Media?
Just change the reference mode to REC 709 and set gamma aka pure power to 2.4 or BT1886 and follow this guide.
For Apple Studio Display + Calibrite ColorChecker Display Pro, is it better to use GB-LED or White LED? X-Rite recommends White LED instead you recommends GB-LED. I tested the two technologies and they give me the same White point coordinate and luminance values. Why?
GB-LED, I mentioned this in the video. Either one will do really. And white point being the same is expected. Choosing the display tech does not effect white point for most display tech.
Great video. I'm using Sonoma with a Display Pro HL on my M2 Max setting this at P3-D65. The measurement on the luminance was 167.684 and I was only able to input 167.6 or 167.7 as the range is limiting me to one character to the right of the decimal point. When I put the target, setting it to 100, I get an orange triangle. It does not allow me to enter in 80, 90 or even 150. Please advise. Many thanks!
The issue is that P3-D65 default is around 160 nits. You can't change that. This is the reason why you need to create a custom preset with the luminance that you want. This guide walks your through this. I would follow the beginning part of this guide.
On my previous MacBook Pro I had an automatic display setting called ‘Generic RGB Profile’ how can I achieve the exact same on my now MacBook 14 M3
That sounds like a pre-calibration profile, don't think you can and if you should, why would you want that, it is a non specific profile that does not conform to your display gamut.
I currently own an X-Rite i1 Studio (the photospectrometer you can also use for profiling printers) and asked the Calibrite support whether this device would be able to calibrate the display of of those new Macbook screens. A day or two later they answered that it could be done using their ccStudio application.
Art on the other hand say that one of their new devices is required for those Mini LED displays. What is right?
You can calibrate, but you won't get the full gamut output of the display. It does not mean that it won't work. It will just that you'll be limited.
Absolutely fantastic. Thank you!
You're very welcome!
Hi, i have a problem after finising calibration. I have MB Pro M3, and after calibration, icc profile doesn't show up on the list with profiles in settings. Does anyone know what could be wrong?
there are so many things that can happen, and many more vairables information that we don't know. I would start with an updated calibration software and go from there. As far as the profile not showing up did you check color sync utility, devices, display and then choose your display?
I don't see a mini led option in calibrite even tho i have a display plus & a M3 16" with a XDR display...
you need the Pro or Plus "HL" Devices and not previous generation ones.
@ ah that sucks, aren’t they spec wise the same tho?
Thanks for the video. Is using those HL devices the only way? I have MacbookPro M2 14" and the ColorMunki display, those HL devices are pricy for me. Choosing "White LED" and P3 will lead me to incorrect results or is anything more to consider?
HL is the only way. You can successfully calibrate with other devices, and also other backlight technology. However, what you're going to get is an ICC profile is much smaller than the color gamut. The display is able to produce.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much for the answer, I'll use the default icc profile then and the "Photography" mode in the screens configuration by now (I hope is a decent choice). Seems I need to save for the HL device and get it later, have a great day!
Wonder if you can help me. I own the Macbook Pro 14" M2 Pro and and Asus Proart Pa279CV monitor, I also own a 65" LG OLED (4k 120hz). I wanted to sell my Proart as the screen isnt big enough and being an LED monitor, looks nothing like the macbook ( i think its to do with the blacks being not as dark as the OLED and Mini LED), even in rec 709 mode. Can these newer devices calibrate the Macbook AND the LG OLED? Ive tried plugging the Macbook into the LG OLED and the colours look a little green compared to the Macbook. Just want to get a really accurate screen on the laptop for when i'm out and about but also be able to hook it up to the OLED when at home for the real estate. Brilliant video btw :)
Yes they will work. But don't think of it as calibrate to match per se.
Is there an advantage of using the manual fine tune calibration over the automatic calibrite calibration?
It would be one of those; you do both. If you want to skip fine-tune, you can. Based on my tests, the results are close to each other with or without fine-tuned calibration, when using Calibrite Profilier
@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much! Very helpful information.
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I think that if you want to calibrate to srgb or rec709 using the older device models is fine? Just have to chose PSF Phosphor as display type. At least that is what I read in the calibrate app.
you would think but not quite, the old devices don't understand the display spectral output.
@@ArtIsRightthanks for the reply
does Spyder X2 Ultra work as well?
yes, but their sensor is inferior and it is difficult to measure the whtie point in their software
Is there any way to do these measurements with an old ColorChecker Display Pro?
Yes and you can calibrate as well but you won't have MiniLED as a backlight option and that has adverse effect on the icc generated. But for the measurement alone, yes you'll be fine.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you very much for your answer
Hello, when it comes to re calibration every 4 weeks, do I have to redo the fine tuning or only the calibration? Thanks!
I would only do calibration. For fine tune I would probably do that every 4 - 6 months.
@ Thank you sir!
My 16" MBP running Sonoma 14.5 gives an error warning about halfway through the process and exits measurement. I have updated to the new version of Calibrite, Profiler 1.3.2. and the version check says I'm Up to date. I tried twice. Thanks for your help.
I have tried the latest version with Sonoma 14.5 and it works on my systems. I would think something might be going on with the OS or interference in the background or software.
Hi Art! Thank you for such a thorough video. At what step would you start at for updating the calibration? Would you need to start the whole process over? Or just that last color step?
No I would just jump in to the calibration part and skip the white point fine turn
@@ArtIsRight Thank you! 🙏
nice video! I recently got a canon pro 1000 printer and have been researching external monitors for my MacBook Pro m2 16 inch xdr. Im finding it hard to come up with a solution. So I may give this a shot first for printing. Do you have any recommendations for external monitors that work great with the MacBook pros that are designed for printing in mind? I have looked at the ben q, and eizo monitors but I am somewhat confused at what would work best. Thank you for any advice.
Any BenQ SW series displays all of them have 99% Adobe RGB coverage
Hi Art, I'm trying to calibrate my MacBook Pro M3. In ColorSync under display, devices, current profile, set to factory is grayed out. the only option is "other," which opens up Finder. Is there anything I need to do to make set to factory active and choose it? Thank you for your help.
Factory grayed out means you are using the factory setting already. Nothing to do just proceed to the next step
Thanks for doing this ART.
Thank you! Cheers!
Yes I’m considering upgrading to the MacBook m3 pro. If this is the case, would HL be best option? Would I be able to use the late 2014 iMac as an external screen? I read that it’s not possible…but would still like to keep the iMac as it’s still working so well so wanna make sure the calibrator I invest in would work on all
yes HL is best for XDR. 2014 iMac cannot be used as external display. HL will calibrate iMac as well as the new display
Any update on why Pro Display XDR isn't being calibrated as well as the MacBook screens? I'm noticing this myself. Pretty big deviation at 5
Mine is usually about 3.5, which is not great but not too bad either. 5 is huge. I have not tested this in a while, I'll give it another go. Follow up with a new comment thread sometime late next week or dm me.
Hi,I had a i1 Studio calibrater and I got it years ago,can I use this method to calibrate my M2 Macbook Pro with it?
In short, you can't. because that sensor cannot measure MiniLED backlight. The long answer is that it will calibrate but you won't get the full color gamut that the display can show
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for the reply
so I followed your guide to the best of my ability. Have calibrated my macs for almost 20 years. Seeming to get a max delta E of 4 despite multiple rounds of calibration with the 400+ patch setting. Any best practices or missed steps to get it lower? 16" M1 Macbook Pro
No that is on the higher side but that is about the range on the max ∆e patch. I'm sure you did fine. If you like to share the calibration report result with me, feel free to dm
Any link to calibrate iMac 27" 5K 2017 with the new Display PLUS HL? I bought it.. tryed to match with my MacBook Pro 14" M2 2023 and the colors are completely different..
ruclips.net/video/8vj6XuEmQhs/видео.html and you can't really. different back light. the only thing that you can do is manipulate one heavily to match the other, to which then one would then again ask which one is correct?
This was a great video. Thanks. Only issues I had was I had to google the X Y point target values because I was using D50 as I am doing more print work. I used X = 0.34567 and Y = 0.35952 target values. For some reason my 2023 Apple Studio 5k Display came up with a warning triangle for Luminance target value of 100 (no idea why) so I had to go as low as 90 as instructed in this video.
you're welcome :)
In MacOS Sonoma there is a weird issue with the Colorsync Utility on my new MBP.
When I reset the icc profile to factory default a window pops up and requires me to enter my admin password. No problem here.
But if I want to select a specific icc profile (e.g. the one I created following this tutorial) after selecting the profile the same window pops up, but this time it does not let me type my password. My username is already entered, click in the field below it, start typing, but nothing happenes.
As a workaround I copied some random short text and pasted it into the password field. I am then allowed to use the backspace key on my keybord and after manually deleting the copied text I can start typing my password.
That is strange...
So this will work on both Macbook Pro and external monitors by Asus? Thanks much.
Yes, Pro External by Asus should have its own software.
First of all. Thank you for your quick replies. So what happened is, that after completing the final calibration in Calibrite Profiler but before leaving the software my monitor turned yellow. External monitor works fine fortunately. Changing colorprofiles does not help at now I have no collars on the XDR display. Actually I have seen this before when calibrating for some of my students. Is the a bug in Calibrite and can I restore it. I don't have time machine
probably dm me, I am curious
I have a display pro color checker and with the MacBook Pro 14" mini led is not available. Do you recommend using white LED instead with calibrite profiler instead or just stick with the factory calibration?
No and you need the HL device to have MiniLED access
Any thoughts on why I cannot Fine Tune my Studio Display under Sonoma?
You can they just move the option under display calibration from the preset mode drop down list.
Quick question: I went through the guide, calibrated my screen, and had a new color profile set. My Question - can I switch between presets / reference modes depending on the task I'm currently performing? (For example, "Photography (P3-D65) L100" for Lightroom editing, and Apple XDR Display (P3-1600 Nits) for everything else). I'm worried that in changing presets back-and-forth, I'm damaging / reversing the color calibration I just performed....
Yes you can switch dynamically, no damage, just a different preset. Profile will carry through to all of the other reference mode as well. But you are good
Hi Art. Does Profiler support P3 HDR PQ ST 2084 yet?
No HDR profiling yet
@@ArtIsRight bummer. Hoping to see this soon
Only the Display Plus HL will have this, explained here ruclips.net/video/UMGKThIESvU/видео.html
I know, hoping for HDR ST2084 support soon though :) @@ArtIsRight
Hey. Thanks so much for this guide. I followed your steps and all went well. However, when I compare the P3 gamut with my created profile in the final step, my user gamut is much smaller than the P3 one. Any idea why this is? Using MacBook Pro M1 with the Calibrite Pro HL on Sequoia.
it is supposed to be close. Can you dm me a comparison/overlay?
@@ArtIsRight sure. Thanks
Hi, Art, I really appreciate your videos. I have a question that may been answered, but I can’t find an answer:
Does each custom reference mode require its own custom profile, as I suspect is required? If so, is there a quick and easy way to switch profiles when changing reference modes? Eg. Going from photography to video editing.
When switching modes on the BenQ SW272Q automatically switches the associated profiles (most of the time).
Thanks for all the amazing content and your contribution.
"Does each custom reference mode require its own custom profile, as I suspect is required? If so, is there a quick and easy way to switch profiles when changing reference modes? Eg. Going from photography to video editing."
Depending on how much the setting changes, power transfer function aka gamma, gamut and etc. So technically you should. But the variation are so small going from photo to video that I would just say choose a standard and go with that. i.e. I edit all of my video on photo standard. What it comes down to is that we are not doing work for million $ Hollywood production and I have seen some of those individual workflow that are know to be expert color grading house do away with less that what you are doing now.
And no there's no way to switch the mode and have the icc change.
On BenQ yes it will do that.
@@ArtIsRight HI, Art. I wanted to check with you regarding multiple reference modes, calibrations, and profiles. I currently use the P3-D65 Reference Mode (customized) on my MacBook Pro. I have that fine-tune calibrated and then calibrated/profiled using Calibrite software and the Display Plus HL. If I choose to also use another reference mode, am I able to Fine Tune calibrate using Mac OS as well (for the new Reference Mode settings) or will that overwrite the Fine Tune Calibration that I had already done for the P3-D65 Reference Mode? Further to this, if I can't do a second, separate Fine-Tune adjustment without deleting the first, what would I select in the Calibrate software for White Point and Luminance, as the Native setting which I used when setting up the P3-D65 Reference Mode would no longer be accurate given that I'm using different settings? Would I select Measured in each or select Temperature and Custom Luminance or some other settings? It would be amazing if you did another video tutorial on this showing how to setup a second customized Reference Mode and multiple profiles. Thanks for all your work and contribution.
Hi, Art, this is a terrific tutorial. Do you have an older calibration tutorial for the Intel iMac 5K Retina display and using the i1 Display calibration tool? If not, is it worth your time to help out how it can be accomplished?
1. I am calibrating with older i1 Display Plus set to WhiteLED as MiniLED option is not available. It would be nice if you could compare calibration with older calibrator and measure with new HL to check if there is really any difference in deltas.
2. There is bug (Sonoma 14.0) that any change of preset or logging out set picture profile back to factory. ColorSync says that custom profile is set properly but I can see with naked eye that colours are off. I need to set current profile again to the same custom one and can see colours change to correct ones.
3. It is a shame that presets are not assigned to colour profiles. I would like to use multiple presets for photography and every day use but profiles does not change for them. I need to change profiles manually or have only one preset truly calibrated.
1. Only the HL devices have MiniLED option. Yes difference in gamut is huge, no need to compared, did many videos on this already and have been advocating on this.
2. This may be a local install issue. I have not observed this fleet wide and not on my fleet of machines.
3. I hear you but these are 2 totally different things and works on totally different fundamentals.
@@ArtIsRight Hello! I have on XDR display but my main proofing monitors are older Eizos and an Apple Cinema display. I have read that the SL is more sensitive in low end and the HL are not as sensitive, sacrificing some range for the high end sensitivity. Have you found this to be true? Would you have two seperate meters one for XDR and one for older monitors, or do you feel the HL is sufficient for both? Thank you
Also can you confirm, because you used ref mode, you can't change the brightness using keyboard even after this calibration right?
Yes this is by design
Thanks for the great video.
I have an m2 mbp and display pro hl..
I’ve tried 3 times now, with good results on the validation, however the gamut is way smaller than P3.. any ideas would be most appreciated!
if you choose miniLED it should be really close. Also way smaller is difficult to quantify. dm me with compasirson.
Thanks-I did use mini led.. I ran it another time from the very beginning using max patches for calibration and validation, and now looks like the results you achieved. Thanks again!