5 ways THIS heresy influences the church today

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  • Опубликовано: 22 авг 2023
  • A pastor explaining why the rapture is unbiblical:
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  • @Cryozebra
    @Cryozebra 11 месяцев назад +180

    Wow this was an EXCELLENT video. Im always impressed by the wide scope of your analyses and how you see the connections between seemingly unrelated phenomena in the church. Every point you addressed was at one point a true test to my faith in my walk with the Lord, especially the conspiracy and anti-science positions that some modern chirches take. It really is a shame that so many Christians feel the need to distance themselves from the secular world because of a belief in 'hidden knowledge'. The idea that Christians will leave this Earth for a new place when we die and resurrect is such an ingrained notion, but as you point out is entirely un-Biblical. We are called to be stewards of the Earth, not visitors!

    • @kriegjaeger
      @kriegjaeger 11 месяцев назад +10

      2 Peter 3:9
      9 The Lord isn’t really being slow about his promise, as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to be destroyed, but wants everyone to repent. 10 But the day of the Lord will come as unexpectedly as a thief. Then the heavens will pass away with a terrible noise, and the very elements themselves will disappear in fire, and the earth and everything on it will be found to deserve judgment.[a]
      11 Since everything around us is going to be destroyed like this, what holy and godly lives you should live, 12 looking forward to the day of God and hurrying it along. On that day, he will set the heavens on fire, and the elements will melt away in the flames. 13 But we are looking forward to the new heavens and new earth he has promised, a world filled with God’s righteousness.
      Thoughts?

    • @Kevin-jc1fx
      @Kevin-jc1fx 11 месяцев назад

      If I understand well you believe that we will be on earth for eternity?

    • @compuguy123
      @compuguy123 11 месяцев назад

      Pu239+Pu239+U235 as trinity, + 60 SAMECH BRIDE + 4 大礼 DALET = 777
      HHH molecule marked by X and called Hetain is called the antichrist; 555 as the numeric Hebrew values. Now 111 is the number of many fruitless men;
      When the aleph of Man bows to the h of the empty enemy; it is the mark of the beast; 2 gashes on 4 strokes. It's the Double Cross of the betrayer; This number sums to 666.
      I can prove that God exists via Universal Fission, Fusion, Trinity, and the Revelations prophecy of 2:12 was concerning Hillsong Church as Pergamum
      Fission and Fusion are the two processes that describe the commission of the church and the fusion of the Bride with God; Transmutation of U-238 describes the ways that Man tested God 4 times, and then the angels sent to gather manna, and then the Fusion of the Bride and God in Tritium-Deuterium Fusion where the bride is taken up who has zeal, and the other, like a neutron, is left behind who is lukewarm.
      Know that we have been commissioned to be a light on a hill; therefore these things are not to be hidden to us.

    • @Steven-ht7ok
      @Steven-ht7ok 11 месяцев назад

      Could you do a video on what you think about non denomination churches?

    • @KevvoLightswift
      @KevvoLightswift 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@kriegjaeger I'd also be interested to know what RZ thinks about this. I'm sure he's got a video on it. I'm premillenial, and RZ's points about a sinking ship are accurate. However, my purpose in this life is akin to throwing as many lifevests to others as possible such that they may survive the sinking ship. The end will come. And when it does, the believers and unbelievers will be separated.
      Still, I appreciate RZ's perspective on this. Most Christians who have the most profound impact on this world do not, I suspect, have a premillenial view. Which tells those of us that do, to do better at being the salt and light the other views are in the world (with God's help and empowerment, of course).

  • @ThatOneHacker305
    @ThatOneHacker305 11 месяцев назад +435

    the guy that proposed the idea of the big bang was a Catholic priest

    • @nsptech9773
      @nsptech9773 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yes and catholicism is the enemy of Christianity whether you accept it or not

    • @xravenx24fe
      @xravenx24fe 11 месяцев назад +77

      All my friends were shocked when I told them this

    • @Souls_25
      @Souls_25 11 месяцев назад +23

      Its cuz catholics are not Christians bro

    • @lesinge8868
      @lesinge8868 11 месяцев назад +150

      @@Souls_25 From my point of view, American Evangelicals with their constant brushes with Judaism, Gnosticism, Nestorianism, and Atheism aren’t Christians.

    • @gabrielethier2046
      @gabrielethier2046 11 месяцев назад +105

      ​​@@Souls_25yeah they are

  • @chancebrown4696
    @chancebrown4696 11 месяцев назад +149

    I’m a Christian that doesn’t always agree with you but I always enjoy your videos and I think this one is very well done

    • @kriegjaeger
      @kriegjaeger 11 месяцев назад +9

      He does make some valid points but then throws the baby out with the bathwater. I also agree there are some who delve far into the idea of hidden knowledge, but then he throws anyone who follows a literal reading of scripture in with gnostic conspiracy theorists using a...gnostic conspiracy theory that YEC was actually started by some person you've never heard of. 🤦‍♂

    • @chancebrown4696
      @chancebrown4696 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@kriegjaeger I’ve heard of her and read extensively on the proliferation of yec due to the sda. Scholarly peer reviewed work held true by both conservative and liberal historians and religious scholars. History well documented is not a conspiracy. Denying the history of something is sort of the same thing hes talking about with denial of science
      Edit: ironically had to change “literal” to “liberal”

    • @kriegjaeger
      @kriegjaeger 11 месяцев назад

      @@chancebrown4696
      YEC comes from a plain reading of scripture, long ages does not.
      If we need to check what Man thinks before accepting what God says, who are we putting our faith in?
      James 1:5
      5 If you need wisdom, ask our generous God, and he will give it to you. He will not rebuke you for asking. 6 But when you ask him, be sure that your faith is in God alone. Do not waver, for a person with divided loyalty is as unsettled as a wave of the sea that is blown and tossed by the wind. 7 Such people should not expect to receive anything from the Lord. 8 Their loyalty is divided between God and the world, and they are unstable in everything they do.

    • @__-tn6hw
      @__-tn6hw 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@chancebrown4696 YEC existed long before SDA, what Redeemed Zoomer claims is that it becomes very prominent with SDA, not that it started there. YEC is very clearly established in many forms of ancient Judeo-Christian writing such as the epistle of Barnabas (written between AD 70 and 132), or Irenaeus' "Against Heresies" (about AD 180). Anyone that is to make a claim like y'all are making is naive in the face of the correct historical facts.

    • @chancebrown4696
      @chancebrown4696 11 месяцев назад

      @@__-tn6hw I didn’t say it didn’t exist - it’s current popularity in the USA and form attached to fundamentalist denominations is due to sda.

  • @conceptsound5
    @conceptsound5 11 месяцев назад +77

    Fun fact. The person who discovered the concept of genes, and alleles and mode of inheritance was a Catholic Christian Friar, Mathematician and biologist. When his work was initially released it was criticised and ignored until was rediscovered by in the 20 century

    • @serimus
      @serimus 9 месяцев назад +4

      Wasn’t it Mendel?

    • @conceptsound5
      @conceptsound5 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@serimus it was

  • @joshuapatterson2320
    @joshuapatterson2320 11 месяцев назад +30

    Does anybody mind praying for my friend Mia, she was a wonderful girl who made this world so much brighter, she sadly passed a few days ago at the age of 15, i wish i could'a had more time with her, thank you everyone

    • @PRAISETHELORD-yk9if
      @PRAISETHELORD-yk9if 10 месяцев назад

      Was she saved?

    • @joshuapatterson2320
      @joshuapatterson2320 10 месяцев назад

      @@PRAISETHELORD-yk9if what's that mean?

    • @MrDarthtelos
      @MrDarthtelos 5 месяцев назад

      He probably means baptized Christian.

    • @faby_baby
      @faby_baby 4 месяца назад

      @@joshuapatterson2320did she repent of her sins and accept Jesus as her Lord and Savior (Romans 10:9-13)

    • @evanlewis659
      @evanlewis659 3 месяца назад

      I met a Mia at a speech and debate tournament back in late 2022, she was a freshman, so 15year old too, I have t heard from her in a while.

  • @IAmDawnPatrol
    @IAmDawnPatrol 10 месяцев назад +45

    Man, this is the video that I needed! I've been fighting a lot with those conspiracy theories cultish guys for a huge while and I didn't know that those beliefs come from a heresy! I thank the Lord for showing me your channel. As an ex-atheist I cannot thank you enough for your videos! God bless you dude! ✝

    • @PRAISETHELORD-yk9if
      @PRAISETHELORD-yk9if 10 месяцев назад

      Stop watching anime!! Anime is bad influence and can cause you to be tempted by seeing those weird fake bodies of female Don't watch one piece, Naruto or any other anime literally!!! Anime is full of nonsense only good anime is anime that includes the bible!! Don't watch anime without the bible!! God bless.

    • @peanutbuttercrackers1673
      @peanutbuttercrackers1673 10 месяцев назад +1

      What conspiracy theories are you specifically referring to? For this world is not as it seems

  • @einarrjamesson9643
    @einarrjamesson9643 11 месяцев назад +82

    Love how when zoomer gets agitated he breaks out thr Brooklyn accent 😂

    • @Sofia-re4ix
      @Sofia-re4ix 11 месяцев назад +12

      Oy vey.

    • @CliffCardi
      @CliffCardi 11 месяцев назад +3

      I know he’s from New York, but is he specifically a Brooklynite?

    • @einarrjamesson9643
      @einarrjamesson9643 11 месяцев назад +3

      @CliffCardi I'm fairly certain he's from NYC or right outside it. Idk specifically what Borough.

    • @sharkfan0902
      @sharkfan0902 13 дней назад

      Yeah I'm pretty sure he said Brooklyn

  • @cranberriarts
    @cranberriarts 11 месяцев назад +143

    I’m glad you mentioned the fact that the idea of the rapture is unbiblical. My pastor actually gave a message a few months ago on this very thing, and that though there is evil in this world, we can see through advancements through science, technology, medicine, etc, that life on earth is constantly improving, and that the church is still being spread. No, it is not perfect, but our job is to do as much as we can, as best as we can, and have faith that Jesus is going to come make perfect what we’ve done in His name through faith.

    • @TGLuck151
      @TGLuck151 11 месяцев назад +4

      The rapture Is NOT unbiblical. Its a conclusion that cames when you follow the "most literally" interpretation of the profecies in the old testament

    • @SantaFe19484
      @SantaFe19484 10 месяцев назад

      @@TGLuck151 There is nothing in the Bible that literally says anything about a seven-year tribulation or that the "rapture" and second coming are two separate events.

    • @darth3911
      @darth3911 10 месяцев назад +2

      You do realize the bible predicts that the people of future generations will be utterly corrupted by all forms of sin to the point that they will not accept God right?
      The rapture is supposed to happen during this time, when exactly it will happen we don’t know, only God knows when.
      That said I would personally guess that it will happen when the world is to stubborn on not hearing the word that it would be pointless to teach.
      Our reason to exist as Christian’s on earth is to be ambassadors of God, teaching his words to those who had not word them.
      If everyone heard the word and are actively rejecting it, then I think God would commence the rapture. Again this happens when God says it’s time, we as humans do not know when it will happen.

    • @RedPigSpartan
      @RedPigSpartan 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@TGLuck151The rapture is unbibical

    • @dakolev
      @dakolev 3 месяца назад

      ​@@TGLuck151 well guess what! Maybe you shouldn't read prophecies literally!

  • @cormundum_o
    @cormundum_o 11 месяцев назад +76

    Love the heresy videos, very interesting and informative.

    • @BestBuddyNoivern
      @BestBuddyNoivern 11 месяцев назад +7

      He should make one soon where he describes every heresy there is and how to avoid it

    • @cormundum_o
      @cormundum_o 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@BestBuddyNoivern I agree that would be very helpful

    • @RockiestRock
      @RockiestRock 11 месяцев назад +5

      That would take forever 😅

  • @alexanderboshnakov7242
    @alexanderboshnakov7242 11 месяцев назад +47

    My father claims to be a "Gnostic Bogomil" and the beginning of your video perfectly illustrates him. 😂

  • @ShnoogleMan
    @ShnoogleMan 11 месяцев назад +41

    You’re missing one: the idea that The Old Testament God is bad and cruel while the New Testament God is good and merciful. That is quite literally what gnostics historically believed and yet it is super common rhetoric from many bible defenders. I say this as a non-Christian.

    • @averdadeeumaso4003
      @averdadeeumaso4003 11 месяцев назад +3

      That's exactly the "mindset" of a parent of mine...

    • @Quincy_Morris
      @Quincy_Morris 11 месяцев назад +3

      I feel like most heresy arose from poor reading comprehension

    • @Klwpslsjslalsolalapswk
      @Klwpslsjslalsolalapswk 11 месяцев назад

      I’d say god is bad and cruel in general

    • @ShnoogleMan
      @ShnoogleMan 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@Klwpslsjslalsolalapswk You could argue that, but it’s silly for Christians to make that point.

    • @Klwpslsjslalsolalapswk
      @Klwpslsjslalsolalapswk 11 месяцев назад

      @@ShnoogleMan yeah me myself I’m a dysthiest/misothiest

  • @jaredseegmiller9411
    @jaredseegmiller9411 10 месяцев назад +26

    I have a weird history. I was LDS then became atheist and now after lots of reading, watching and listening to different people I am very interested in becoming Christian (or at the least learning about it). I either want to be Presbyterian or Catholic. I have Autism and ADHD, I enjoy the intellectual aspects of Christianity and I would like a community that I can be involved in. I can’t go to church because I can’t drive yet. I don’t know what to do. How do or should I pray, and how do I read the Bible?

    • @djcoopes7569
      @djcoopes7569 10 месяцев назад +5

      Public transport or the good old foot falcons mate. I come from a similar background myself funnily enough. I'd recommend going to a bunch of different churches (not just different denominations) and seeing what fits. Ultimately no church will be perfect, but that would take the fun out of it anyways 😅

    • @veryangryduckpl2122
      @veryangryduckpl2122 10 месяцев назад +5

      Cant go to church because ye dont have a car? Bloody hell, what is it with the crap american urban planning?

    • @djcoopes7569
      @djcoopes7569 10 месяцев назад

      @@veryangryduckpl2122 no urban no problem

    • @junothepeasant
      @junothepeasant 9 месяцев назад

      @@veryangryduckpl2122 Yeah, it isn't great

    • @Abcdefghijajajaja
      @Abcdefghijajajaja 7 месяцев назад

      @@djcoopes7569not the best way to pick a church is by feeling…

  • @TitusAnglican
    @TitusAnglican 11 месяцев назад +22

    This was a good video, but even as Protestant trinitarian Christian who hates Gnosticism as much as the next guy, I think your assessment of Gnosticism is too narrow. The Gnostics were less so of an organized heretical group so much as a very broad label of various disconnected heresies in pre-Nicene christianity influenced primarily by Platonism. All the Gnostic heretics were extremely different and varied.

    • @TitusAnglican
      @TitusAnglican 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@matalostodos It is shortsighted not to distinguish the sects of a religion, even when foreign.

    • @chimeremnmaozioko17
      @chimeremnmaozioko17 9 месяцев назад

      He isn't denying that. But the gnostic groups did have something in common that enabled people to group them as one.

    • @igorlopes7589
      @igorlopes7589 5 месяцев назад

      But the thing is that they generally had the same mindset and the same core Dogma. Matter bad, world created by demiurge, secret knowledge/gnosis frees us from the evil matter to reach the Pleroma(heaven)

  • @mythguard6865
    @mythguard6865 11 месяцев назад +28

    I kinda feel like (wether you believe in it or not) writing off young earth Creationism as “Anti-science” is a bit of an oversimplification. Don’t creationist scientists also do experiments and try to observe and explain the natural world. To me I feel like the main difference between the two opposing views is more one of interpretation rather than that of one being more “scientific”.
    P.S I really like the videos on this channel and I’m not throwing any ill will. I’m just curious as to the definition of “anti-science” in this context.

    • @addyjoy3
      @addyjoy3 11 месяцев назад +2

      Hi, I figured I could offer some clarity: it’s considered anti-science because of the methods they use, and that a lot of the evidence is spotty at best. It also usually completely ignores the scientific consensus, which isn’t always right but their hand waving is usually unsupported. For example: the claim I’ve heard about all the different fossils being created in the flood completely ignores the truth that fossilization typically takes thousands to millions of years. Obviously there are exceptions but for it to be at that scale is insane and VERY unlikely.
      I’m still in my geology undergrad and not a paleo expert so if anyone has some better proof please let me know

    • @DesertsOfHighfleet
      @DesertsOfHighfleet 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@addyjoy3ya I've seen something like carbon dating being unreliable because its theory uses uniformism but it's wrong because earth had a lot of disasters and changes. And that they made wrong assumptions many times..
      Can you confirm it's true? It would be interesting

    • @Quincy_Morris
      @Quincy_Morris 11 месяцев назад

      You know what’s anti science? Evolutionism.

    • @Quincy_Morris
      @Quincy_Morris 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@addyjoy3if fossils take millions of years why are there so many examples of them being made instantly or quickly like with Mt. St. Helens and other recorded disasters?
      Sure science claims it takes millions of years but it’s impossible to actually observe this happen. What we have observed is it happening instantly or very quickly during calamities and such.
      So which is more scientific? Believing on faith that fossils are formed over millions of years we did not observe? Or believing our observation that we see fossilization happen instantly?

    • @addyjoy3
      @addyjoy3 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Quincy_Morris we have scientific evidence of it taking a long time, I know one professor at my university who is doing experiments of burying alligator bones to see how they fossilize. There are specific cases where it can occur instantaneously but I don’t believe those are as common as you think. (Again not a paleontologist so I’d look up some papers but I figured I could give some direction towards what evidence convinced me, I grew up evangelical and YEC)

  • @Antic_MC
    @Antic_MC 11 месяцев назад +55

    Hey Zoomer, I've recently became Christian (partly thanks to your videos-thank you) and I am wondering if you can just 'turn up' to church, or you need to sign up and do other things. What should I do?

    • @iamjohnfarlow
      @iamjohnfarlow 11 месяцев назад +35

      Yes, you can just turn up, just be careful to go to a church that doesn’t go against the teachings of the Bible since you’re a new convert.

    • @jpmadison98
      @jpmadison98 11 месяцев назад +19

      Generally, to "join" a church, as in to become an official member, there will be something more formal. Our church takes a vote (we all collectively say I or I do not when asked if we want said party as part of our congregation) at the end of service anytime a family wants to officially join. It takes like 30 seconds.
      But to simply attend, nothing is required. In fact, most churches love visitors and will welcome you warmly. Some may ask you to fill out a visitor card but it's not required.

    • @jakinboaz8558
      @jakinboaz8558 11 месяцев назад +12

      Fantastic, Antic52! For attending and partaking in a church, just show up. Some of the churches have websites stating their expectations but most don’t. Dressing nicely can’t hurt, but most baptist and nondenominational churches won’t look twice if you’re in khakis or even jeans and a plain tee.
      As for Communion, most churches will have open communion, but if you end up going to a Lutheran church, you will have to become a member before you can partake.
      Hope that answered some of your questions!

    • @gamesrock3271
      @gamesrock3271 11 месяцев назад +11

      Absolutely just walk in. A good church will welcome you and will not pressure (though they may invite) you to join right away. Some churches have more formality than others when it comes to joining, but none should make you do anything before you've made the decision to join.
      Welcome to the Body of Christ!

    • @WaterMelon-Cat
      @WaterMelon-Cat 11 месяцев назад

      Become a confessional Lutheran ;)

  • @aidencrooks
    @aidencrooks 11 месяцев назад +25

    Remember what we have been taught, Brother in Christ. Do not love the world nor the things of the world (1 John 2:15-17) and keep the expectation of the blessed hope and the Lord's glorious appearance (Titus 2:13). As in the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of man (Matthew 24:37-39). We will soon be caught up in the clouds to meet and be with the Lord Jesus forevermore. "Therefore encourage one another with these words" (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18). Amen.

    • @kriegjaeger
      @kriegjaeger 11 месяцев назад +12

      2 Peter 2:3
      3 Most importantly, I want to remind you that in the last days scoffers will come, mocking the truth and following their own desires. 4 They will say, “What happened to the promise that Jesus is coming again? From before the times of our ancestors, everything has remained the same since the world was first created.”
      5 They deliberately forget that God made the heavens long ago by the word of his command, and he brought the earth out from the water and surrounded it with water. 6 Then he used the water to destroy the ancient world with a mighty flood. 7 And by the same word, the present heavens and earth have been stored up for fire. They are being kept for the day of judgment, when ungodly people will be destroyed.
      James 1:5
      5 If you need wisdom, ask our generous God, and he will give it to you. He will not rebuke you for asking. 6 But when you ask him, be sure that your faith is in God alone. Do not waver, for a person with divided loyalty is as unsettled as a wave of the sea that is blown and tossed by the wind. 7 Such people should not expect to receive anything from the Lord. 8 Their loyalty is divided between God and the world, and they are unstable in everything they do.
      There are those who seek the approval of man and false wisdom of man before believing the word of God, they are double minded. They may be saved but their loyalty is torn between God and the world, seeking to attack those faithful to his word and drag those who are unsteady into faith in man rather than in God.

    • @aidencrooks
      @aidencrooks 11 месяцев назад +7

      @@kriegjaeger Many thanks for sharing these words of wisdom and encouragement from the holy scriptures, Brother in Christ!

    • @kriegjaeger
      @kriegjaeger 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@aidencrooks Thank YOU brother! you've said it much better than I have and in fewer words haha.

    • @aidencrooks
      @aidencrooks 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@kriegjaeger Aw beloved one, you're too kind. All glory to YAH (Hallelujah)! Continue to spread the good news of Jesus Christ's loving sacrifice for all until we're taken Home. Lord willing, we will meet in God's kingdom soon enough. Amen.

  • @Anders010
    @Anders010 11 месяцев назад +11

    You see the gnostic influence in popular culture. The Matrix movies, video games (japanese RPGs) the writing of H.P. Lovecraft and many more.

  • @innocentsmith6091
    @innocentsmith6091 11 месяцев назад +23

    I'd argue that cults by their very nature are gnostic-adjacent. Salvation by secret knowledge that can't be trusted to outsiders is the core of pretty much any cult and what fundamentally separates them from religions (besides them being about someone exploiting others, cynically or not).

    • @hodor4199
      @hodor4199 9 месяцев назад

      early christianity was a cult. they were underground, hidden, secretive, and careful when deciding who should join in their assemblies and who should not. do not cast pearls onto swine, as Jesus said.
      had they not done this, destroying them would've been much easier.

  • @maxzation
    @maxzation 11 месяцев назад +17

    I have a video idea for you Redeemed Zoomer, "why you are not a molinist?"

  • @lemonboi1609
    @lemonboi1609 11 месяцев назад +138

    Love these videos I'm agnostic but I love learning about the Christian faith in an intelligent format

    • @SyoDraws
      @SyoDraws 11 месяцев назад +14

      Glad you find these videos beneficial!

    • @johannd1100
      @johannd1100 11 месяцев назад +33

      The intelligent format known as minecraft

    • @meanderingmangomanthe1stof611
      @meanderingmangomanthe1stof611 11 месяцев назад +19

      I'm a Muslim, and feel the exact same way. It's nice to actually find Christians who appreciate, explain, and explore the complexities of their faith.

    • @user-xs3oi8rq8f
      @user-xs3oi8rq8f 11 месяцев назад +1

      this sarcastic comment is too much

    • @beamshooter
      @beamshooter 11 месяцев назад +5

      Im an agnostic Christian, one who believes in God and salvation through Christ, but acknowledges I could be wrong.

  • @sangonomiyahana
    @sangonomiyahana 11 месяцев назад +10

    7:20 You just made me remember the day where an baptist pastor came to my school on Easter not to talk about Jesus, but to talk about how "science does not exists" "you only study science to get good grades" "dinosaurs never existed" "the world is 6,000 years old" (*actual quotes*). LOL

    • @redeemedzoomer6053
      @redeemedzoomer6053  11 месяцев назад +11

      Baptist moment. Also, lemme guess: was that one of those low-rate Evangelical schools?

    • @CliffCardi
      @CliffCardi 11 месяцев назад +7

      “God just planted those bones in the ground to fool us!”

    • @sangonomiyahana
      @sangonomiyahana 11 месяцев назад

      Funny enough my school was kinda "non-religious", the owner was a gay man and the only reason we have easter and christmas speeches was because of his ultra-religious mom. Hugs from Brazil!@@redeemedzoomer6053

    • @bigchungus1920
      @bigchungus1920 9 месяцев назад

      @@redeemedzoomer6053way to bash evangelicals as a whole while you bend over backwards to appease Muslims

  • @guedosha
    @guedosha 11 месяцев назад +28

    I loved the helmet at the beginning to make it look like you were wearing a tin foil hat

    • @dorkiesanman
      @dorkiesanman 11 месяцев назад +7

      It's even funnier because it did say tinfoil hat

  • @hampusboman7143
    @hampusboman7143 11 месяцев назад +21

    I fear you're not spreading the kingdom of God on earth by calling your fellow brothers and sisters who believes in creationism idiotic.
    I like your videos, but be sure to maintain your relationship with God too, read your Bible and pray every day. I'm afraid you're getting sucked away into learning about God, instead of getting to know Him. I myself have been there and I just thought I'd try to warn you.

    • @redeemedzoomer6053
      @redeemedzoomer6053  11 месяцев назад +6

      I appreciate the reminder, but I did not call all creationists idiotic

    • @hampusboman7143
      @hampusboman7143 11 месяцев назад +14

      @@redeemedzoomer6053 I'm really sorry if I accused you of something you haven't said. But I am really sure you called either creationism as an idea or the fact people believes in it as idiotic. I should've been clearer and rechecked that part.
      I just really hope you don't fall into the same rabbit hole as I did, being so fascinated by theology, culture, architecture and statistics so you put the relationship as second priority. Don't get me wrong, theology is really important, but the relationship always comes first, especially when it is more theoretical theology than theology you practice. I really don't mean to sound rude by this either, your content is mostly amazing!

    • @kriegjaeger
      @kriegjaeger 11 месяцев назад +4

      Well spoken and delivered in grace.

    • @courtneyshannon1503
      @courtneyshannon1503 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@hampusboman7143I feel like that’s apart of the Baptist thinking he dislikes (Baptist here 👋 ) I could be wrong though. Haha

  • @jameswilliams7026
    @jameswilliams7026 10 месяцев назад +9

    I take slight issue with point number 2.
    The Anti-Science Mindset as it is framed is often just an anti-secular institution viewpoint. As we know Data can be fabricated to meet desired outcomes which benefit the rich and powerful and those who are otherwise opposed to the Christian world view.
    Lets not forget that Eugenics was once considered "settled science"
    I propose studying GK Chesterton for an exploration on the subject

  • @ThatVibrato
    @ThatVibrato 11 месяцев назад +21

    Very interesting that there are influences in this way -- never heard of it in churches I've been to. (Yet, I've always committed to a local churches that always believe in the primary doctrines, solas, and uphold God's Word as His Living Word so I haven't heard of this before. I always think if there is some sort of heresy such as idolizing knowledge like Gnoticism or Word of Faith, idolizing money like Prosperity Gospel, or more, it isn't exactly a church anymore because Jesus isn't the head of the church anymore.)

  • @KingII_
    @KingII_ 10 месяцев назад +3

    I can't tell you how much your videos have helped my faith. I deeply appreciate your labour of love

  • @Tacticaldoor
    @Tacticaldoor 7 месяцев назад +4

    is it perhaps possible to maybe join this Minecraft server?

  • @GhostzinZ
    @GhostzinZ 10 месяцев назад +5

    I'm a catholic, but your videos are really helping me to improve my faith even though we disagree in some topics.

  • @kylo3801
    @kylo3801 11 месяцев назад +8

    “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.” (Matthew 7:13-14, NASB). Lists that all “Christians” will go to heaven. Gotta read the word first in order to be able to follow it. Don’t just listen to people and what they say build a relationship with Christ.

    • @chimeremnmaozioko17
      @chimeremnmaozioko17 9 месяцев назад

      And what type of relationship is this. Cause when people say this, they fail to mention what type of religion it is. There are different types of relationships so which one?

  • @hadesundead2366
    @hadesundead2366 11 месяцев назад +21

    Loved the video, I wanted to ask if you've ever heard of the late Hebrew scholar, Dr. Michael Heiser?
    Just wanted to know if you've heard of him, he's really cool when it comes to the Bible, and would you ever make videos discussing pastors, who are popular, for good or bad reasons. Or even other Christian RUclipsrs? There's a world of content out there and I'd love to see you cover, loving the channel as always.

    • @jakinboaz8558
      @jakinboaz8558 11 месяцев назад +4

      As far as really famous pastors go, he’s talked about how nearly all of them are baptist or highly influenced by baptist theology, so he wouldn’t recommend them too much. He has a video on his thoughts of some famous theologians including Tim Keller and NT Wright. For RUclipsrs, he’s recommended Jordan Cooper (Lutheran) and Gavin Ortlund (Baptist). The living celebrity pastor he likes the most is probably Voddie Baucham except for one significant issue (subordination of the Son)

  • @internetscavanger6746
    @internetscavanger6746 11 месяцев назад +16

    That last take was confusing to me, but didn't really bother because of my optimistic mindset. There have been people saying that bettering this world as a Christian is prosperity gospel, so could you perhaps do a video debunking that? Thanks!

    • @Quincy_Morris
      @Quincy_Morris 11 месяцев назад +7

      Then they don’t understand the prosperity gospel.
      The prosperity gospel is “become a Christian so you can get good stuff.” Improving the world is “I am a Christian therefore I should bless other people as Jesus did.”
      They’re entirely different

    • @chimeremnmaozioko17
      @chimeremnmaozioko17 9 месяцев назад

      That's not the prosperity Gospel. Prosperity Gospel is I pray and praise the Lord so he can give me whatever I ask for

  • @lefebre27
    @lefebre27 11 месяцев назад +11

    That’s Gnosticism Patrick 😂. Love Lutheran satire

  • @rostdreadnorramus4936
    @rostdreadnorramus4936 6 месяцев назад +4

    Gnosticsm has also influenced groups like the Leftists, Communists, [bad guys of WW2 from Germany], Trade Unionists [bad guys of WW2 from Italy], and a ton of others.

  • @miakel126
    @miakel126 11 месяцев назад +8

    If you are reading this, I hope you have a good day! :) ❤️‍🔥✝️
    *John 8:12 - Later, Jesus talked to the people again. He said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never live in darkness. They will have the light that gives life.”* ⭐️❤️
    Have a good day! :) 👑💖☺️

  • @allisonsantos1808
    @allisonsantos1808 11 месяцев назад +9

    i think that one of the things that St. John the Apostle used to "redeem" the world (i prefer to say that it was to make a common point between christians and non-christians) was the use of some words that were common in Greece at that time like the word Logos. By that i mean that if you try to "negate this world" like the last point of the video can lean to, you basically neglect the redemption of the world by Jesus and the members of his church and also almost becoming a dualist gnostic...

  • @aleckim9337
    @aleckim9337 7 месяцев назад +2

    This I find to be one of the most important RZ videos, many times I come back to it and see how much some of my friends have this mindset

  • @RM3MB3R
    @RM3MB3R 11 месяцев назад +6

    Hello. I really appreciate your work here. I get a lot out of your perspectives.
    I just wanted to point one thing out if I may:
    I can’t wait to see your take on the Rapture being unBiblical, but I’ve never heard anyone act like we shouldn’t continue trying to reach the world because we feel the Rapture is close.
    I speculate that may be a new idea being advanced today, but I’ve only known people to talk about the importance of getting even MORE active in spreading the Gospel the closer everything appears to be getting towards the end.
    However long that may still be, the signs of the times definitely show that the world isn’t currently headed anywhere good, so the sense of urgency in spreading the Gospel increases rather than dwindles.
    That’s been my personal experience, so that’s not to say spreading the Gospel HASN’T diminished because of the Rapture view. I just haven’t personally picked up on anyone having the idea of ceasing the mission.

    • @freedomin4low344
      @freedomin4low344 2 месяца назад

      same. I need to go watch the specific rapture video and see if he addresses the 7 years of tribulation, but my upbringing was that there would be a pre-tribulation rapture, and we would come back down with Christ at his second coming after the tribulation. Nothing about looking to be snatched off of Earth or viewing it as a sinking ship at all. If anything maybe it's just an attractive idea that those of us who follow Christ wouldn't have to be here for having to choose between taking the mark of the beast vs starving to death, widespread persecution and execution of Christians to make us deny Jesus, etc. Not gonna lie I wouldn't mind missing all that myself, but finally at 40 I'm digging more deeply into this stuff and finding that some of the eschatology I was told as a kid may not be strictly Biblical.

  • @iron_vicuna6784
    @iron_vicuna6784 11 месяцев назад +7

    While what Zoomer is saying is decently true, I think he has a fundamental misunderstanding of what gnosticism is and is assigning things to it that don't belong under its umbrella

  • @willwoodfan
    @willwoodfan 11 месяцев назад +9

    I'm agnostic, but I find religion interesting and your videos are very educational, I like watching them. Keep up the good work mate.

  • @zackyoung6504
    @zackyoung6504 5 месяцев назад +2

    While there is some gnostic ideation that has stayed in the modern churches, the big thing about Gnosticism is that it is the religion of this world. Part of Gnosticism is often being hand in hand with esoteric and occult practices. This is why Catholics like myself are forbidden to interact with freemasonry, but really any christian with discernment would be highly distrusting of these closed societies saying they have only the best in mind for the world when it comes to their machinations.
    Not really diving into conspiracy theorism, simply them being in these closed and esoteric societies is enough for us to steer clear of them.

  • @SantaFe19484
    @SantaFe19484 10 месяцев назад +4

    This is an awesome video. It is amazing how Gnosticism creeps into the church so subtly. I grew up in a church with some of these soft-core gnostic tendencies, but was very critical of hard core Gnosticism.

  • @cskandrsgyrgy
    @cskandrsgyrgy 11 месяцев назад +9

    I think, the first conspiracy theory was "The Roman Pope is the Antichrist 666 Vicarius Filii Dei", that goes back to the time of the Reformation.
    Seventh Day Adventists still love that theory.
    Btw, isn't the Calvinistic idea of double predestination gnostic? Humanity is damned, but there are the chosen ones who are saved, but it's a secret knowledge. And there are signs which prove that you are among the chosen ones. It's kind of a gnosis.

    • @kriegjaeger
      @kriegjaeger 11 месяцев назад

      Ironically this is engaging in conspiracy theories on Gnosticism.

    • @brockburgi994
      @brockburgi994 11 месяцев назад +5

      Under Calvinist doctrine, God doesn’t reveal who is the elect or not. It’s not our job to know who is elect outside the church. By definition, this falls under the “secret things” talked about in Deut 29:29
      Btw, speaking of that passage, is the Bible now gnostic since it talked about secret things that aren’t supposed to be revealed to us?

    • @pedroguimaraes6094
      @pedroguimaraes6094 11 месяцев назад +3

      Bro, please, study about Calvinism before talking about It. Just read the Brief Cathecism of Westminster. What you wrote is just completely wrong, It is not a secret knowledge lol

  • @louannebvb
    @louannebvb 5 месяцев назад +3

    The Gnostics definitely found some interesting mushrooms in their forest trips

  • @Someguybran444
    @Someguybran444 10 месяцев назад +2

    As a Gen-Z-er who has recently had a resurgence in my overall faith, I really appreciate how thorough and genuine your videos are. I think that ever-growing mindset about "secret knowledge" and Gnosticism you mention is highly correlated to the proliferation of what I call "Libertarian Bro Culture" and a fallacy of being so based that one "transcends" "flawed" institutions like the Church and justifying personal ego as a triumphant beacon of light rather than an inflated sense of self. As you mention, while we all need to concede the truth about being in a battle of good and evil (and there is most certainly both), the solution is where most are divided. It's not, as you point out and I would agree, to just "pray super hard and have that 1 in a billion relationship with God that 'no one else has but me because I'm above the Church' " and get ascended to Heaven to be save oneself, but rather to work hard to see and spread the good we see and truly make the world more Heaven-like in our own ways (whilst accepting our natural flaw of Original Sin and constantly refining our honest relationship with God and Jesus) .
    I totally agree about your stance on remembering the main point of the Gospel to make the world better while we are here and uniting over our common love and true adoration for the Lord and Jesus rather than tearing each other down and debating semantics and wanting to be right and condemn others.

  • @jiqian
    @jiqian 11 месяцев назад +6

    These comparisons are an absurd reduction of Gnosticism, using the term as a mere buzzword. Ridiculous behavior.

  • @alfredbucovina6964
    @alfredbucovina6964 11 месяцев назад +7

    One question ,Redeemed Zoomer said once that he believes in evolution ,yet evolution teaches that there wasn't a first man(Adam) that could commit the original sin that corupted humanity and the world how does this affect predestination and his view of salvation ?
    Personaly I believe in evolution and I'm an atheist (If you wandered) . I get that you could have a belief in a God and evolution ,but I dont get how you could be a Christian (Jew or Muslim also) because I seems to contradict the fact that man has fallen from grace.
    Intrested in anybody's opinion on how it works, especialy if there you're calvinist.

    • @__-tn6hw
      @__-tn6hw 11 месяцев назад +6

      I agree that someone who believes in a reliable Bible and Evolution from Common Descent at the exact same time is ultimately adhering to the above presented (and rather explicit and irresolvable) contradictions.

    • @courtneyshannon1503
      @courtneyshannon1503 11 месяцев назад +1

      Inspiring philosophy has a video on why he does as a Christian. It’s all way to complex for my little brain to understand (must not have evolved as greatly as them) but I just believe what the Bible says about God creating Adam from the dust. Maybe you would understand his perspective though. He’s a interesting Christian. I believe redeemed zoomer said he also has a video on why he believes in evolution. 😊

    • @alfredbucovina6964
      @alfredbucovina6964 11 месяцев назад

      I will try to find

  • @perisleaf
    @perisleaf 3 месяца назад +2

    Thanks for this video! Now I can appreciate chemistry far more knowing that god created it.

  • @gamesrock3271
    @gamesrock3271 11 месяцев назад +6

    One of the misrepresentations of a pre-trib rapture is that the church merely escapes Earth. The second part is in Revelation 20 when they return with Christ to reign with him on Earth for the millennium.
    I'm not sure what I believe will happen, but either way, yes the Church is guaranteed tribulations in this world and charged to work for the Kingdom on Earth, not promised that if they hide they'll escape.

    • @kriegjaeger
      @kriegjaeger 11 месяцев назад

      The key is that the tribulation is God's wrath on the earth, not the normal problems caused by the curse. It doesn't make sense that God would cause us to suffer under his wrath when we have been forgiven (pre trib rapture).

    • @vanjstoddart
      @vanjstoddart 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@kriegjaegerYeah the story of Noah is a reflection of the judgment to come. Noah and his family, those who were considered righteous before God were spared from the judgment of the earth.

    • @kriegjaeger
      @kriegjaeger 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@vanjstoddart
      And the story of Lot in Sodom and Gamorrah!
      It's a very interesting study. God invites Abraham to reason with him, but the conversation is for our benefit for than Abraham's. God already knew no one good was in the town by Lot but allowed him to ask God, to reason for us, that God could surely not be a just God while also allowing his wrath to fall on innocent people.
      How it is to our benefit is that God says "I will go down and see" the situation in Sodom and Gamorrah. Yet the angels whom he sent reveal they were not sent to "check" but to destroy Sodom and Gamorrah. God already knew, of course, but saying this invited Abraham to reason with him.
      The conversation for Abraham was for our sake. God will not bring HIS wrath upon the innocent.
      So pre-trib rapture makes the most sense. Those saved by the blood of Christ will not be present to suffer his wrath.

  • @redhouse994
    @redhouse994 11 месяцев назад +16

    Hey man, great video, I have a few pionts on this topic:
    What do you define as "secret knowledge"? Personally, I feel like when people talk about "hidden knowledge", what they usually mean are occult practices like witchcraft or alchemy. What you are saying, is that having a "desire" to look for truth, which is inherently christian, is herasy? I dont think that is a fair statement. Yes, i know i am wording this harshly, but broken down, it kind of sounded like you were insinuating it to that degree: "Just practice faith and let the wicked run a mock haha". The reality is, that you can not compare the believes and practices of an old christian sect, that was after esoteric knowledge, to people beeing concerned about the reality of human corruption. No Christian in their right mind would be like: I know the truth and now i am going to hide all the truth, so that i have secret wisdom and will be able to navigate though this life haha.
    4:14 Another thing regarding the grace of God: Yes, he is protecting us from evil, like you said, however, we do not know what his plans are. If we look at the canannites, God let them continue to do horrible things, for thier sin had not reached its full potential: He chose to abstain from judgement, because he is patient and he wanted to let the people fullfill thier dark deeds, so he could judge them later on a fair basis. My point beeing: Like it says in the old testament, or even in revalation: Sometimes god will be "passive" for reasons we do not know, nor understand, for then we as the people bear the responsbility to watch out and diminish the evil in this world.
    I also don't believe, that sin alone is the only variable that perpatuates evil *in the world* : Yes, we are all sinners and therefore in need of a saviour and sin is the core of all evil, though occult practices and the witchcraft are open rebellion against god and his people. In other words: Intend does play a role in what happens to us *on this world*: I do believe it is fair to assume, that we as christians are under attack during spiritual warfare. Look at the satanic calender for reference, or just look at the "family friendly" demon summonings from last week (wtf). If we believe, there is good (God), we also have to believe there is evil (Satan), thus realising that spiritual attacks are legit.
    The main idea behind the "christian conspiracy guy", is the believe that we are currently indeed close to the endtimes, meaning we are in close proximity to the mark of the beast. (Lets be honest, some people think we are already in them, however that has been claimed a million times through out the millenia haha). In that context, the bible also says, that evil will rise and the days of Noah will come back. The reality is: We live in a society, where there are high ranking people are concerned with the dark tiqqun, which is in clear reflection of the coming of the antichrist. Yes people can be overboard and crazy af, but i would never go so far as to say they have heretic tendencies.

    • @depressoespresso1785
      @depressoespresso1785 11 месяцев назад +1

      Every single year conspiracy christians make us look stupid with their own stupidity. Just because there is evil doesn't mean we are in the end times. We do not know nor should we even try to know when that is. God also said to trust in him not to go make crazy theories and use him as justification. Especially those Qanon christians that have done more damage to our religion than actual athiests.

    • @courtneyshannon1503
      @courtneyshannon1503 11 месяцев назад

      I was thinking the same thing on his first point. I’ve done a small dive into the whole secret societies conspiracy. And from most of the Christians perspectives I’ve seen, they came to the conclusion that the secret societies were in fact gnostic, and they tied it all into how the end days and beast system and all the Revelation prophecy will come to pass through these people believing the God of the Bible is bad and Lucifer (what their secret knowledge leads them to) is good.
      It’s a very compelling belief actually. But the core of it isn’t Christians believing in this secret knowledge, but rather, believing there are many people in this world that do seek out this knowledge through secret societies, and come to the conclusion that Lucifer is the good guy.

    • @TheJawesomeOne
      @TheJawesomeOne 11 месяцев назад +1

      To add to this: I have come to a belief that sin is intent even without a proceeding action. I have forgotten both the location and exact writing used to support unfortunately, maybe I'll get back to this when I'm not st work. Cheers!

    • @courtneyshannon1503
      @courtneyshannon1503 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheJawesomeOne Yes! Jesus said if you look at a woman with lust in your heart it as commuting adultery. Hating your brother is as murder is somewhere too. I think John said that.

  • @carker120
    @carker120 10 месяцев назад +1

    i really like your videos, keep up the good work👍

  • @moustacheman7130
    @moustacheman7130 11 месяцев назад +5

    WOW this video dropped at exactly the same time that I was talking to a Christian friend of mine about the flat earth theory. I need to share this with him.

  • @jacksonkuzmic
    @jacksonkuzmic 11 месяцев назад +7

    You should do a heresy tier list but have it set up like
    FS
    FA
    FB
    FC
    FD
    FF

  • @Jiabey
    @Jiabey 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks for this!

  • @comeintotheforest
    @comeintotheforest 11 месяцев назад +27

    This is SO TRUE I’ve been saying this for months.

    • @jakinboaz8558
      @jakinboaz8558 11 месяцев назад +1

      “Be a sworn enemy of gnosticism.”
      -John Stonestreet
      Some of the best advice I’ve gotten from a podcast

  • @borisvandruff7532
    @borisvandruff7532 11 месяцев назад +5

    I’m historic premil. The type of premil that believes that the “rApTuRe” happens at the same time as the second coming, which is post-tribulation.

  • @keithwysocki9003
    @keithwysocki9003 2 месяца назад

    Definitely said “Mmm” the way I do during an insightful sermon several times during this video. Great stuff!

  • @lastreagandemocrat
    @lastreagandemocrat 11 месяцев назад +3

    Taking a trip to Hades while discussing Gnosticism. I'm here for it.

  • @geothepoly
    @geothepoly 11 месяцев назад +14

    Good video, but I heavily disagree with your stance on creationism. The Bible says the Earth was made in 6 days, with God resting on the 7th day, which is a literal example to follow. I just don't see a Biblically sound explanation for it being a metaphor or allegory for millions of years, as there's no real indication of such.

    • @geothepoly
      @geothepoly 11 месяцев назад +10

      "Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made."
      Genesis 2:1‭-‬3

    • @redeemedzoomer6053
      @redeemedzoomer6053  11 месяцев назад +1

      do you take Jesus literally when He says "this is my body"

    • @SamuelBessert
      @SamuelBessert 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@redeemedzoomer6053 Its all about the context. Many verses can be twisted into heresy or completely different meanings if you ignore the context surrounding them.

    • @michhanesh5466
      @michhanesh5466 11 месяцев назад +8

      I wish redeemed zoomer had a steelman approach to young earth creationists, whose arguments come from the bible but also science. Its not fair that he picks us up from our lower common denominator. From his videos now I have a better understanding on the calvinist position than "those guys who dont believe there is free will at all and what we do doesnt matter". Please stop knocking down strawmen.

    • @eyeofsauron1502
      @eyeofsauron1502 11 месяцев назад

      To be fair the Bible does say that for God a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day. So the 6 days in which God created the world could have literally been 6 days, or 6 thousand years, or potentially longer as far as we know.

  • @allisonsantos1808
    @allisonsantos1808 11 месяцев назад +1

    that one about the sinking ship... damn... thats the one i see the most around my surroundings. nice vid!

  • @keanuanddoge6328
    @keanuanddoge6328 11 месяцев назад +2

    You should do a video about the SDA church,would love to hear more from you about that

  • @TheUnknownKnows989
    @TheUnknownKnows989 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you brother zooms 🙏🏻

  • @ericskeens5306
    @ericskeens5306 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you!

  • @randomdams9179
    @randomdams9179 11 месяцев назад +11

    As a Muslim, I feel like our conspiracy culture comes from Gnosticisms as well. Like whenever I here one of these conspiracy theorists, and I say "God is all powerful, if there was really this secret plan happening all along why didn't God stop it".
    Now I understand, it comes from Gnosticism. Nice to learn!!! Keep up the great work!!

    • @GAMINGINTHEBIDENYEARS612
      @GAMINGINTHEBIDENYEARS612 11 месяцев назад +1

      Why are you muslim

    • @CliffCardi
      @CliffCardi 11 месяцев назад

      Well RZ did say Islam has a common feature with Nestorian Christianity, where the divinity and humanity of Jesus (Isa) is separated into 2 distinct entities. I’ve been told in Islam, Isa did die for our sins on the cross, but is not treated as Allah or the son of Allah.

    • @randomdams9179
      @randomdams9179 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@CliffCardi
      TL;DR
      Some Muslims believe in Original sin + Resurrection, most don't. Muslims don't believe in the Trinity because we believe God would keep the religion as easy to understand as possible. And also that the Trinity is technically Polytheism.
      In Islam, the Vast Majority of people have the opinion that both the Trinity and Original Sin(which includes resurrection) is False. Though technically nothing in Islam directly contradicts the Original sin. There are verses like "and THEY did not kill them, though it appeared they did". Usually read as
      "Jesus was either beat to a point where he didn't die, and instead survived regaining the strength to get up just 3 days later, or he escaped and when someone else was falsely crucified he returned. "
      could also be read as
      "The Romans didn't kill him, He was sacrificed for our sins. He allowed himself to die."
      We basically believe the trinity is impossible because in Islam God has a thing called "Sunnah" where he follows specific patterns to make it easier to understand him. One such pattern he follows is that he always exists within logic. Now even Scientists and Atheists no that there is no way to defend a denial of 1 God(They just claim the God has not consciousness and is thus irrelevant). Then any logical think would Conclude that such a god would have had a lasting impact of the earth, and that logically some people would recognize that. If you keep thinking purely logically you will arrive at all the same conclusions as Christians. Though the trinity breaks this pattern which we believe is illogical. Thus, we also believe that those who follow the trinity are polytheists, because God would not expect us to understand something so Illogical in out Universe.

    • @CliffCardi
      @CliffCardi 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@randomdams9179 And what’s with the crescent in Islam? Was Allah originally a moon god?

    • @randomdams9179
      @randomdams9179 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@matalostodos
      I don't really understand what your saying. Though I think your saying 2things, 1. "The Qur'an provides no evidence against the trinity" Which can be explained by the fact that the trinity is already a very difficult to defend statement. So simply saying that it is wrong is enough to convince most people (as it did across the Christian world), while anyone else could give evidence against it. God doesn't usually waste his precious final book with evidences anyone could figure out.
      Your second is "The Qur'an supports the idea that Jesus is a son" which is simply false.
      Your argument says anyone who was born through special creation is now the Son of God. This makes no sense. Jesus was made through special creation, he is still a human, just the most important human. Adam was also made through special creation, also he was a human. The first life forms on earth, also made through special creation. According to your argument all of these are "The Sons of God" it makes no sense.

  • @clispyleaf
    @clispyleaf 11 месяцев назад +5

    Brilliant. You called out me and at least two of my church friends on this one 😂 Also, based reference. THAT'S MOOOOODALISM PATRIIICK.

    • @musilily926
      @musilily926 10 месяцев назад +1

      Lutheran Satire 💯💯💯

  • @CVilla49
    @CVilla49 11 месяцев назад +9

    The more I read chrisitan apologetics the more I appreciate the connection between faith and science. Learning more about the world that God created has been a wonderful expereince so far.

  • @LucasJKey
    @LucasJKey 11 месяцев назад +6

    on the point from 12:30 how do you feel the relates to the churches that started after that point? Would this mean that the orthodox church is THE church?

    • @andreassvensson895
      @andreassvensson895 11 месяцев назад +3

      The catholic church actually ☝️🥸

    • @LucasJKey
      @LucasJKey 11 месяцев назад

      @@andreassvensson895 *kyle entered the chat* I honestly think it's a chicken and the egg problem. Also Catholic as in roman catholic or lower case catholic

    • @andreassvensson895
      @andreassvensson895 11 месяцев назад

      @@LucasJKey I dont understand what u mean lol. My comment was kind of a joke but I am actually roman catholic.

    • @LucasJKey
      @LucasJKey 11 месяцев назад

      @@andreassvensson895 so which came first the Orthodox or the Catholic? Both have solid historic claims to the original church but one 'split' from the other. The main argument is which one gets to be the first church one, none or both.
      The lower case catholic means universal. Catholic has the common meaning of Roman Catholic.

    • @andreassvensson895
      @andreassvensson895 11 месяцев назад

      @@LucasJKey A yesyes

  • @sisygambis.
    @sisygambis. 11 месяцев назад +10

    true! Israel is our greatest ally!

    • @sisygambis.
      @sisygambis. 11 месяцев назад +9

      @Ek-up6ut indeed! they would never dance on top a van after the plans hit the towers

    • @AmirSatt
      @AmirSatt 11 месяцев назад +4

      💪✡️

  • @PL9050
    @PL9050 11 месяцев назад +1

    These intro skits keep getting more 🔥 .

  • @anonymous_man7
    @anonymous_man7 11 месяцев назад +2

    you have some good wisdom. Stay strong buddy.

  • @stylianospapadopoulos6139
    @stylianospapadopoulos6139 11 месяцев назад +8

    There are literal gnostic "churces" out there. In Bosnia!

    • @bigscarysteve
      @bigscarysteve 11 месяцев назад +2

      And in lots of other countries, too.

  • @dopolskizhubertem2583
    @dopolskizhubertem2583 9 месяцев назад +1

    I really like the little detail of the iron helmet being a tinfoil hat at the beginning of the video :)

  • @hezekiahthomas837
    @hezekiahthomas837 11 месяцев назад +9

    This sounds a lot like pre trib rapture than rapture. And we have to be careful not to fall into Dominion theology that we can "heaven on earth by taking back the world for christ" which leads to the idolisation of politics

    • @kriegjaeger
      @kriegjaeger 11 месяцев назад +4

      Pre trib does have good arguments however.
      God invites Abraham to reason with him by stating he will go down and see the state of Sodom and Gamorrah. God doesn't need to go see, he already knows. This is proven when the angels are 'saved' by Lot and reveal they were sent to destroy Sodom and Gamorrah, not investigate them.
      But the conversation is instructive, as is Lot's salvation.
      Genesis 18:22
      Abraham approached him and said, “Will you sweep away both the righteous and the wicked? 24 Suppose you find fifty righteous people living there in the city-will you still sweep it away and not spare it for their sakes? 25 Surely you wouldn’t do such a thing, destroying the righteous along with the wicked. Why, you would be treating the righteous and the wicked exactly the same! Surely you wouldn’t do that! Should not the Judge of all the earth do what is right?”
      If God were to leave the saved in the world to suffer the tribulation, he would be destroying the righteous along with the wicked.

    • @carlodechosa4219
      @carlodechosa4219 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​​@@kriegjaegermy thoughts exactly. And while we aren't exactly righteous, Jesus's Blood makes us righteous in His Sight.

    • @Quincy_Morris
      @Quincy_Morris 11 месяцев назад +1

      Well we should certainly try to make things as good as possible. Which is why the Bible depicts simple things like investment and hard work as good things in many of Jesus’ parables.
      Though the idea that we can make the world perfect I think goes against scripture.

    • @hezekiahthomas837
      @hezekiahthomas837 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Quincy_Morris I agree

    • @kriegjaeger
      @kriegjaeger 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@carlodechosa4219
      Amen, it is only through the blood of the lamb we could be considered "innocent".
      @KillDracula
      We should be engaging in good works and edifying activities. This world will pass away but the actions we undertake in love will be remembered.

  • @juanmanuelgarzon4490
    @juanmanuelgarzon4490 11 месяцев назад +3

    I think the problem w/ gnosticism itself is it's intertwined with modern ideologies (liberalism, communism, fascism)
    See Voegelin's remarks on this

  • @SCP-1762-BOL
    @SCP-1762-BOL 11 месяцев назад +5

    Can you please talk about the apocrypha?

  • @jessefoutz597
    @jessefoutz597 11 месяцев назад +2

    I see that jazz font you used!
    And that "tinfoil hat" in your inventory!

  • @bigscarysteve
    @bigscarysteve 11 месяцев назад +21

    Accusing flat-earthers of blasphemy? Dude, you really have crossed the line.

    • @ayobithedark2772
      @ayobithedark2772 11 месяцев назад +13

      If the earth is flat, then what are mountain-climbers climbing?

    • @ExNihiloComesNothing
      @ExNihiloComesNothing 11 месяцев назад +7

      Seriously. Its simply biblical cosmology. He is in error here. Not that FE is necessarily right and he should adopt it, but in error by slandering his brothers in christ.

    • @theintelligentmilkjug944
      @theintelligentmilkjug944 11 месяцев назад +5

      Is this a joke?

    • @ayobithedark2772
      @ayobithedark2772 11 месяцев назад

      @@ExNihiloComesNothing ahhh....so the Bible contradicts science?

    • @ExNihiloComesNothing
      @ExNihiloComesNothing 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@ayobithedark2772 That's projection, Patrick.

  • @HistoryEnjoyer3010
    @HistoryEnjoyer3010 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the video. I have family members who believe in this. How have you been

  • @joshhill2057
    @joshhill2057 11 месяцев назад +5

    You might want to consider collaborating with Wendigoon or the lore lodge.

  • @westerncentristrants525
    @westerncentristrants525 11 месяцев назад +2

    Please do a video on the World Mission Society "Church" of God.

  • @damaplehound
    @damaplehound 11 месяцев назад

    hey man I really like your videos, I wanted to know if you have an opinion on Kierkegaard's "killing of the mind in order to earn god" view on faith. Considering you are pretty rational in the way you approach religion I would love to hear what you have to say on the topic.

  • @asafferreira5663
    @asafferreira5663 11 месяцев назад +3

    Hello mr. Zoomer, this was a really nice video. If you don't believe in the creationism, how to you interpret the first 11 chapters of Genesis? If Adam and Noah don't existed, where come all the genealogies from Genesis 4, 5, 10 and 11? If you don't know, rethink your cosmovision. Have a nice day, brother.

  • @sanyaskillpro
    @sanyaskillpro 11 месяцев назад +3

    Could you make a video explaining Cathar heresy? As soon as you mentioned gnosticism and believing this world is evil i was instantly reminded of Cathars. I watched a video on Real crusades history on the Albigencian crusade, but it was mostly focused on, well, crusading and not in depth on what they actually believed. I'm only interested to hear from a genuine Christian channels and not all those lefstists claiming crusades = bad therefore everyone who got crusaded is good.

  • @nathansettlemyre7365
    @nathansettlemyre7365 11 месяцев назад +1

    I know how you feel about us but I just was wondering if there would ever be any denominations added to KingdomCraft like SDA. I’d love to join the server. Maybe we could live out in the wilderness cuz that’s kinda one of our things. 🤷‍♂️

  • @sharkinator7819
    @sharkinator7819 10 месяцев назад +3

    The delicious irony of going to the Nether to talk about heresy

  • @jimmysuros6302
    @jimmysuros6302 11 месяцев назад

    Speaking of Gnosticism, and on the world ending, what is your thoughts on the Laws of Thermodynamics, and its logical conclusion that the universe will run out of usable energy and thus nothing can be built?

  • @JosiahTheSiah
    @JosiahTheSiah 11 месяцев назад +2

    Nice job! I just got through the first couple volumes of Irenaus' _Against Heresies_ and yeah, these guys (Gnostics) were something else 😅

    • @__-tn6hw
      @__-tn6hw 11 месяцев назад

      Problem is, Irenaus affirms YEC in book 5 (at the very least)

    • @JosiahTheSiah
      @JosiahTheSiah 11 месяцев назад

      @@__-tn6hw that's heavily anachronistic, and also not in keeping with the occasion of Irenaeus' writings.

    • @__-tn6hw
      @__-tn6hw 11 месяцев назад

      @@JosiahTheSiah
      Would a direct quote suffice, so you can see that it is very blatantly YEC?

    • @JosiahTheSiah
      @JosiahTheSiah 11 месяцев назад

      @@__-tn6hw a direct quote where Irenaeus explicitly affirms Young Earth Creationism??

    • @__-tn6hw
      @__-tn6hw 11 месяцев назад

      @@JosiahTheSiah nah, just ideas that are worlds more likely to be the case with YEC than any other ideology (what I mean by blatantly YEC) such as the belief that the ages of those men in genesis from Adam to Noah were literally those ages, or the world being said to be made in six days.

  • @PYRO80812
    @PYRO80812 11 месяцев назад +2

    Nice Lutheran Satire reference towards the end.

  • @ariqdevandi4412
    @ariqdevandi4412 10 месяцев назад +2

    6:44
    About how science was developed by the Church, i think it's interesting to see that the role of priest and teacher are related before modern time (think about it, where do they aquire their advanced knowledge and skills from?)
    Also i noticed that there a lot of media groups trying to discredit Europeans as the one who propels the scientific revolution (you would think it's because of their nation, but think who primarily spread Christianity when other nations choked by other religions?).

  • @delanieanderson1886
    @delanieanderson1886 11 месяцев назад

    How do I join the Minecraft Server/discord? I'd love to join this great community ❤

  • @Zakanuva
    @Zakanuva 11 месяцев назад +3

    Intro memes aside, what are your _actual_ thoughts on the Freemasons? Are they a group worth looking into, or should we be joining/building more explicitly church-based groups to improve society?

    • @buddigabong
      @buddigabong 11 месяцев назад +4

      I know in Roman Catholicism it's considered sinful to be a Freemason on the grounds that it is part of the occult. The Knights of Columbus exists as a catholic alternative to Freemasonry. The Knights of Malta are a Catholic fraternity recognized by Masons as "masonic", though it predates the modern day Freemason lodges. Freemasonry was big amongst mainline protestants during the founding of the USA and it is pretty big in the UK as well.

    • @__-tn6hw
      @__-tn6hw 11 месяцев назад

      Church based groups would be better, the Freemasons practice occult stuff.

    • @Zakanuva
      @Zakanuva 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@buddigabong Yeah, I know that the Grand Masonic Lodge in London was the subject of that Netflix series about Freemasonry, and each of the United States have their own Grand Lodges.
      What I'm wondering is, even by our Protestant standards, _is_ Freemasonry sufficiently Christian enough to get involved in? As far as I know, the only entry requirement for the regular Lodges is belief in _some_ higher power, so is it just more Gnostic heresy...?

    • @buddigabong
      @buddigabong 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Zakanuva yes. it's an early form of new ageism and and the highest levels they worship Lucifer. Read Albert Pike's morals and Dogma.

    • @drascalicus5187
      @drascalicus5187 10 месяцев назад +9

      @@Zakanuva Don't join it. It has the gnostic traditions of secret knowledge as a baseline, as to advance in rank is to have gained "secret knowledge" and performance of certain rites and rituals. Further, it is open to all who believe in higher powers, which means you could end up with Satan worshipers (Church of Satan for example) as a part of your lodge.

  • @danzamnit3008
    @danzamnit3008 7 месяцев назад +2

    I agree somewhat but you should be careful to not blanket condemn what some would call conspiracy theories, some of which Martin Luther himself pointed out....

  • @aerolanz2512
    @aerolanz2512 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hey zoomer, can u talk about the 7 books of the catholic bible that are not found in the protestant bible. Thanks.

  • @ThumbKnuckle
    @ThumbKnuckle 10 месяцев назад +2

    Now do an episode on the transfiguration of Christ and what it means as you probably have a wildly different understanding of it than me as Orthodox.

  • @saintjacques8137
    @saintjacques8137 11 месяцев назад +12

    Not sure it's the right niche but if anyone's interested in traditional Christian history (especially Medieval) I hotly recommend Schwerpunkt's videos series

  • @aidenrodgers681
    @aidenrodgers681 11 месяцев назад +7

    Dude it annoys me that you said there are no Gnostic cluts around today, what do you think me and the boiz do on Thursday evenings

  • @QNotAConspiracy
    @QNotAConspiracy 11 месяцев назад

    I want to join that server I think a cool project could be splitting the ocean in two and we can creat a path to the other side and maybe build some chariots and stuff we can leave at the bottom along the path or something.. idk I would love to join this server

  • @joshuakarr-BibleMan
    @joshuakarr-BibleMan 10 месяцев назад +2

    I'm sort of up in the air about the Rapture.
    I would say better evidence for it than what you say though, is when Jesus says two will be in one bed and one will be taken and the other will be left, and two will be working in the field and one will be taken and the other left.

  • @yuanti50
    @yuanti50 8 месяцев назад

    This is one of the best videos I've ever seen. I've been sucked into the whole conspiracy theory so phenomenon and some of what you're talking about here. So, I need to repent of gnostic beliefs, except the rapture because I've known that's not biblical for some time. Thank you for your hard work and insight. Is there a way I can help you in your efforts to reach mainline churches? My brother and his family goes to one that's woke.

  • @Dr_suter
    @Dr_suter Месяц назад

    I know I’m late but this reminded me of a time I was refereeing a soccer game when I was younger and a Christian behind me started saying things like “you know history is just a bunch of lies accepted upon” and I wanted to say to him “how can you say that and be Christian?” (I’m assuming he’s Christian because his phone rang and it played a worship song, I think it was Amazing grace but it could’ve been a different one)

  • @danilojuskovic6121
    @danilojuskovic6121 10 месяцев назад +1

    Can you make a video about praying to saints/mary ?