Baby or toddler swimming can later lead to actual swimming. But it's not the actual initial goal. It's more about baby and parents working together taking advantage of the babies natural instincts making them comfortable in water. They are born with useful instincts and can fast become comfortable in water keeping water out of their lungs. If the water is warm enough, they will enjoy it. For parents it's a really interesting and rewarding activity when you get to build different kid of relationship with your child and lear that the baby has abilities even at so early age. But make sure, it all needs to be done on the baby's terms and at least starting doing it in groups with specially trained instructors is really useful or necessary. If you have a swimming pool which you can keep at baby bath temperature, even then I recommend starting at a special group and under the supervision of instructors.
You were talking about parenting and parents, but then ended up talking more about the support for motherhood. That's the impression I got. That is the prevalent approach also in society in general even though fathers aren't so ignored any more as they used to be. Historically the need for special support for mothers started from pregnancy and giving birth, which were very obvious reasons for special support. It was also seen that the support for mothers was the effective way to offer support for babies and new families with babies. I think it's worth mentioning that there are also groups and activities specially targeting and supporting fathers as parents or in their family life.
Loud people are considered to be rude, selfish or egocentric, attention seekers who think too much about themselves. Yesterday I was in a store and had to listen, everybody in the store and probably outside had to listen, how a foreigner negotiated something with his wife. I assume it was his wife. I didn't understand their language. But the intensity of the discussion was clear. He seem to be almost unaware about his surroundings. It took at least 5 minutes until he walked outside and the noisy visitor disappeared. These people are not, unfortunately, very rare. There are sociopaths among us, who need to get kicked occasionally to be reminded that they need to respect and consider others around them. Some aspects of what that means at the practical level are culture dependent.
I would dare to say that in Finnish cultures activities like boating, sailing, skiing, fishing etc., which are life skills, are also cultural inheritance into which parents introduce their children by teaching and including them in these activities. Culture, the world itself, does originate from more practical things like theater, drama etc.
I think our upbringing also shapes how good or bad a parent we are, our choices, our behaviour with kids. Good to know all this discussed, thanks for sharing :)
The challenge in using your own upbringing to guide you with your own children comes from: - world and societies change. Everything culture and technology related can become outdated. - different circumstances also require different approaches. People who look in the past to look for directions ahead for their children are likely to mislead their children.
Well I think our upbringing does influence in a way that we know what not to do and what will not work because of changing times. We never faced the challenges that our parents did and similarly our next generation will never face what we had to, their generation have some other type of challenges to deal with and hence a different approach needs to be taken to tackle them.
@@travexplorefinland When the world and societies were more slowly changing in the past upbringing could offer direct advice of what to do. A nomadic hunter family or agricultural society could offer advise and models how to behave and what to do to their children who would have the same challenges. As you mentioned, that is not the world in which many or most of us lives any more. Perhaps some still have that slowly changing world experience, I am not sure of that. Upbringing can give abilities and methods like the scientific method or mathematics or social sciences to help handling new situations. Education in general in many fields tries to give students skills to research and develop new solutions to new challenges. That's not however possible for all people since not all in real life have the right personality or abilities to benefit from all education. Majority of people seem to be eager to find some easier paths for themselves. They're more interested in acquiring skills which are useful and rewarding in the short term. When the world upbringing is used, I am not sure what concrete is meant by it. There are religious orthodox or conservative ways to keep people from actually developing independent thinking and forwarding looking ideas. Not all upbringing seems to be so useful or empowering for handling successfully changes and new solutions for new challenges.
Unfortunately I don't understand Hindi, so I have only vague idea of what all you said about competitiveness. Still, I would say that competition has different characteristics in a less hierarchical society with smaller social class differences than what I understand to exist in Asian countries. When practically anyone can afford to study, competition of study places can be difficult. When there are less top jobs or jobs in academia, it makes academic competition harder. But of course you can compete also at the international level, if you're willing to relocate elsewhere. Competition at the lowest levels is naturally effected by the safety net offered by the society. It doesn't necessarily make competition easier.
Often it feels there is no right way to be a parent. Whatever you do, no matter how right it seems to be, can come with negative effects. I wouldn't go so far as saying that there aren't any wrong ways. There are many clearly harmful ways.
Good topic picked and information given through a cool gesture and discussion.
Thanks a lot 😊🙏
Baby or toddler swimming can later lead to actual swimming. But it's not the actual initial goal. It's more about baby and parents working together taking advantage of the babies natural instincts making them comfortable in water. They are born with useful instincts and can fast become comfortable in water keeping water out of their lungs. If the water is warm enough, they will enjoy it. For parents it's a really interesting and rewarding activity when you get to build different kid of relationship with your child and lear that the baby has abilities even at so early age.
But make sure, it all needs to be done on the baby's terms and at least starting doing it in groups with specially trained instructors is really useful or necessary.
If you have a swimming pool which you can keep at baby bath temperature, even then I recommend starting at a special group and under the supervision of instructors.
Nice, interesting discussions, well done!
Good well 👍👍
You were talking about parenting and parents, but then ended up talking more about the support for motherhood. That's the impression I got.
That is the prevalent approach also in society in general even though fathers aren't so ignored any more as they used to be.
Historically the need for special support for mothers started from pregnancy and giving birth, which were very obvious reasons for special support. It was also seen that the support for mothers was the effective way to offer support for babies and new families with babies.
I think it's worth mentioning that there are also groups and activities specially targeting and supporting fathers as parents or in their family life.
Loud people are considered to be rude, selfish or egocentric, attention seekers who think too much about themselves.
Yesterday I was in a store and had to listen, everybody in the store and probably outside had to listen, how a foreigner negotiated something with his wife. I assume it was his wife. I didn't understand their language. But the intensity of the discussion was clear.
He seem to be almost unaware about his surroundings. It took at least 5 minutes until he walked outside and the noisy visitor disappeared.
These people are not, unfortunately, very rare.
There are sociopaths among us, who need to get kicked occasionally to be reminded that they need to respect and consider others around them. Some aspects of what that means at the practical level are culture dependent.
I would dare to say that in Finnish cultures activities like boating, sailing, skiing, fishing etc., which are life skills, are also cultural inheritance into which parents introduce their children by teaching and including them in these activities. Culture, the world itself, does originate from more practical things like theater, drama etc.
I think our upbringing also shapes how good or bad a parent we are, our choices, our behaviour with kids. Good to know all this discussed, thanks for sharing :)
The challenge in using your own upbringing to guide you with your own children comes from:
- world and societies change. Everything culture and technology related can become outdated.
- different circumstances also require different approaches.
People who look in the past to look for directions ahead for their children are likely to mislead their children.
Well I think our upbringing does influence in a way that we know what not to do and what will not work because of changing times. We never faced the challenges that our parents did and similarly our next generation will never face what we had to, their generation have some other type of challenges to deal with and hence a different approach needs to be taken to tackle them.
@@travexplorefinland
When the world and societies were more slowly changing in the past upbringing could offer direct advice of what to do. A nomadic hunter family or agricultural society could offer advise and models how to behave and what to do to their children who would have the same challenges. As you mentioned, that is not the world in which many or most of us lives any more. Perhaps some still have that slowly changing world experience, I am not sure of that.
Upbringing can give abilities and methods like the scientific method or mathematics or social sciences to help handling new situations. Education in general in many fields tries to give students skills to research and develop new solutions to new challenges. That's not however possible for all people since not all in real life have the right personality or abilities to benefit from all education. Majority of people seem to be eager to find some easier paths for themselves. They're more interested in acquiring skills which are useful and rewarding in the short term. When the world upbringing is used, I am not sure what concrete is meant by it.
There are religious orthodox or conservative ways to keep people from actually developing independent thinking and forwarding looking ideas. Not all upbringing seems to be so useful or empowering for handling successfully changes and new solutions for new challenges.
Unfortunately I don't understand Hindi, so I have only vague idea of what all you said about competitiveness.
Still, I would say that competition has different characteristics in a less hierarchical society with smaller social class differences than what I understand to exist in Asian countries.
When practically anyone can afford to study, competition of study places can be difficult. When there are less top jobs or jobs in academia, it makes academic competition harder. But of course you can compete also at the international level, if you're willing to relocate elsewhere.
Competition at the lowest levels is naturally effected by the safety net offered by the society. It doesn't necessarily make competition easier.
Thanks for watching, English captions are now available.
Hi
Often it feels there is no right way to be a parent. Whatever you do, no matter how right it seems to be, can come with negative effects.
I wouldn't go so far as saying that there aren't any wrong ways. There are many clearly harmful ways.
Hiii mujhe bhi Finland Jana hai to mujhe contact number mil sakta hai or kya waha ki language important hai
संचार और फिर भाषा कौशल हमेशा आवश्यक और महत्वपूर्ण होते हैं।
Communication and therefore language skills are always necessary and important.
@@just42tube ok