Getting a pet in Germany (in memory of Lilli)
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- This is the story of Lilli's adoption, and suggestions for things you can do in her memory.
Wannigsmühle animal shelter in Münnerstadt
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00:00 Not my usual type of video
00:25 Lilli's early life
01:26 The adoption procedure
02:27 Where to get a pet (in Germany)
03:20 Making this more positive
03:43 Option 1
04:05 Option 2
04:34 Option 3
05:36 Closing remarks
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When my mother got herself her last cat, she went to the Tierheim (animal shelter) and deliberately got an old cat that nobody else would take. She did not want to leave behind an animal that was used to her. I cared a lot about her cat when she was in the hospital. They both ended up dying within a week of each other.
The last cat my parents adopted was also an older rescue cat for precisely that reason: not only did they not want the cat to outlive them, but they were themselves quite old and wouldn't have been able to properly look after a very young cat.
Mein tiefstes Mitleid. Ich wünsche dir Stärke und Kraft. Mein Kater ist vor ein paar Monaten ebenfalls verstorben und ich denke jeden Tag an ihn
Mein Beileid es ist schrecklich einen Freund zu verlieren. 😢
@@AlSidreDanke dir ❤
What a beautiful way to honor Lilli's memory!!! 😻🙏🏻
Our cat Emmett passed away last year at the age of 16. He was a brown tabby that no one wanted. My wife was going to the shelter to adopt a Siamese (later named Lilly). The shelter implied that Emmett would have been euthanized if no one adopted him, so she got two cats for the price of one. He became a happy part of her life and then later mine when I married her. Emmett didn't look "pretty" or "cute" but he was a total sweetheart and was friendly to all strangers. I was honestly more upset about his passing than I have been for most humans.
First time I’ve ever donated to an organization I can’t even pronounce 😂❤
I'm really impressed that Rew (after losing his friend and family member) and can keep his composer when talking about Lilli
*composure
A composer makes music.
@@LeofwineTrue, but seeing a composer that can't keep their composure gives me complete closure.
Sorry to hear about Lilli, we lost our cat Pawl about the same time, Like Lilli he was a long-term stray that was hard to rehome. He bought us 7 years of joy before he passed away. I'm glad that you and your wife now have Anneliese. to keep Clyde Company. We just took in a kitten from the same shelter that Pawl came from and BOY is she proving to be the life of the party.
You are so kind to have taken on a cat like Lily. Every animal needs a forever home.
Es ist schön dass ihr der Katze ein warmes Heim gegeben habt und dass ihr zusammen eine gute Zeit hattet.
Thanks for sharing that touching story. ... unsurprisingly it leaves me mostly speechless. I happily donate a little for Christmas to the shelter and thank you for pointing their need out. A great thing you doing here with the video. I cannot think of anything more fitting the Christmas-spirit for your channel.
Thank you. It was shocking enough to read about; I can't imagine what the staff felt.
Wir haben auch vor einigen Jahren einen schwer vermittelbaren Kater (schwarz, mag keine Kinder, mag keine anderen Haustiere, benötigt eine ruhige Umgebung) adoptiert und ich glaube das machen mehr Menschen, als man denkt. Wir haben's nie bereut.
P.S.: Herzliches Beileid.
Andrew, you see my RUclips name? It was years ago I took up that pseudonym. Eisi was a tomcat who suddenly appeared in my yard. He had a white fur with a few black spots, so I named him "Eisi", like "Eisbär", or "polar bear" in English. I had a few other cats already, but Eisi was a diplomat, he never wanted to become a leader. He died some time ago, must be four or five years since, from "inner organ failure", the vet said, or maybe just from old age, as his real age could never be determined. Sometimes I think of him and wish he were here, but, oh!, here comes Ophelia! (That's her screen name. In reality, she's Lotta.)
Unsere ersten Zimmertiger waren Kitten aus dem Tierheim, danach holten wir immer wieder die "Ladenhüter", die dann bei uns aufblühten und ganz bezaubernde Katzen mit sehr eigenen Charakteren waren bzw. sind. Wir sind auch sehr gut von unseren Mizen erzogen worden und sind vorbildlichen Dosenöffner 😂
So good of you to have given Lilli a few good years.
I wish we had the kind of no kill shelters in the US that you have in Germany. In the city where I live the city sells animals they have killed to rendering plants for animal food. I'm sorry about your Lilli. My Leo died of the same thing.
That's awful. Not only kill the animals but profit from it!
GOOD JOB, Germany!! And thank you for adopting Lilli 💜💜💜💜
When i got my cat from the shelter the pay was for the things the shelter did on the cat too. Like neutering and vaccination:)
I'm really glad that you can't shop most pets here. Adoption is so much better❤
Im sad to hear of your loss, all the best wishes and strength you need
Please take the proper time to mourn
As a German:
If you have leftover physical toys etc to donate, go for it. If you're going to spend money to buy items to donate, please go ahead and just donate the money! Shelters can often get items cheaper in bulk, probably get way too much of some and not enough of other items, and receiving money gives them much more freedom for what they're going to use the money for. This goes for ANY charity you could donate to - money is always better, even if it might not feel as nice, warm and fuzzy as donating toys. BTW shelters might also have use for clean, old towels you'd otherwise throw away.
I used to volunteer for 3h a week at a local shelter when I studied, and found it quite a good experience that was valued by the shelter staff. The key point I think was that I did it for a long-ish time (1.5 years) and was dependable, so they didn't have to waste much time training them. It was a quite rewarding experience for me, getting to see cute animals every week and being thanked for my effort every single time by the staff, without fail. Mostly my job was cleaning cages for small animals (mice, rats, gerbils, rabbits etc). I didn't end up cuddling the animals much and got bitten a few times, but boy do I have hundreds of adorable pictures from that time.
We now adopted our own cats from a small rescue in the UK, which was a horribly long-winded process with honestly too much scrutiny, but at least we finally succeeded in the end.
I'm happy to see this much affection gived to a companion animal. She is deserving of it.
My mother basically has her 2nd stray cat now, both were probably abondaned and at one point house cats. The first died of illness and was abused and had signs of old injuries, the second one was a stray that was caught, neutered and then ended up in my mothers household from a friends recommendation.
It should be noted that the first cat basically adopted us, sat under the balcony and demanded entry and after some time of getting to know each other basically was taken in forcefully and after about 6 months was finally relaxing. And yes, veterinarians and the shelter were involved, but they had no clue where this cat came from so we could keep him there was no chip either.
My sister is a photographer and regularily works with a couple who have a rescue organization for street-cats and -dogs from eastern Europe. The have contact with shelters there and regularily bring animals from there to their home here in Northern Hessen, Germany. My sister then gets to take pictures of them, she edits them and the rescuer-couple then upload them to their Facebook page. My sister has so far adopted three cats and a dog from those rescuers, and a friend of mine ha adopted three dogs and two cats from a different rescuer. Luckily there are plenty organizations like that here, and supporting them or a shelter is probably equally good.
Petshops do sell animals. Just not the typical/larger ones. They usually sell fishes, reptiles, guinea pigs, hamsters, etc.
In Germany?
@@kermitenthusiast485My local Pet Shop sells live fish, I've also seen live fish at some hardware stores.
@@kermitenthusiast485
Yes. Rats and rabbits, too, very often. Not cats or dogs, though.
I got so lucky. Got my Weimaraner through one of our vets at the agency.
The dog is utterly afraid of squirrels since he got abused by one as a puppy. The breeders didn't want to give him away to a hunter without thorough therapy and testing but eventually found him unfit as a working dog. My colleague caught the story when she was inspecting the kennels and called me immediately.
Nevertheless I was to underwent 3 months of painstaking scrutiny before they would legitimately sign the dog over to me.
IMO it's a good thing that a lot of shelters will also require a testing phase before they finally hand over the animal.
Ein sehr schönes und sinnvolles Video. Vielen Dank und alles Gute euch. Und schöne Weihnachtstage natürlich. 🙂
My condolences
My condolences. We lost our cat last year. We had adopted him from an animal shelter (Tierheim), when he was already 16 years old. He stayed with us for more than three years. We still miss him so much!
My deepest sympathy!
My condolences.
Given that cats do like to not be alone, much like humans in general too, do you think you might adopt another cat so that Clyde will have someone to be with her when you and your wife can't be home, and ease up a space at the shelter too?
I wanted to name the cat that my family adopted back in August Luna given the black fur she is covered in and also after one of the protagonists in one of my favourite manga series, but we went with a different name in the end.
We need to wait for Clyde to process the loss and for Lilli's smell to fade. Then we'll see if Clyde shows signs of depression or loneliness. The problem is that Clyde generally doesn't get along well with other cats, and we were surprised at how well he took to Lilli. Choosing the right companion for him isn't an easy task.
There is a 16 year old cat, purring and sleeping next to me.
Beileid, im Frühjahr ging unsere Lily. Sie hatte auch eine Milchlätzchen.
In Memoriam,
Lili Bossom
Or something like that! 😢 poor Lili!
Awwww, poor Lilli. Losing the woman she found a home with after so many years...
The greatest sadness of my life is being extremely allergic to cats. I LOVE these cuties sooo much! But despite trying several methods over more than 20 years, I just can't live with them. Luckily for me, my sister isn't bliged this way, lives just above me, and shares that love - maybe even more - so I get to get my fix every now and then by going up there for a few minutes.
I'm so thankful to you for being such a thoughtful care taker. Too many people are way too obsessed with kittens, in a world where older and ever so sweet and loving adult cats more than deserve to have a cozy home.
That being said, and with all the appreciation I have to shelters here in Germany: Some really take it a little too far. When my sister sought out to home another cat (to accompany her first one that was a private rescure), the "ladies" that came to assess the new home wouldn't accept anything but PERFECT conditions. No compromises. And they were on board, until our mom came over for a stint. Such as she was, she was (as sadly always) holding a lit cig and ashtray. My sister didn't smoke at all. But that mom's visit alone was enough to cause to elongate the process for several days, and my sis having to make excuses and promises to the point where she was close to say scheiß drauf.
I fully understand and VERY much appreciate that shelters look out for good homes. But letting "absolutists" make the call isn't helping anyone. Not the animals, nor those wanting to home them. Please, everyone, find some common ground.
That being said: I'll make sure to wire some cash to the shelter you mentioned. They appear to be good people with bad luck, deserving of all the help they can get. God speed!
Yes, I have heard similar things and find it pretty stupid.
You will not be able to house many animals if you only give them to ideal people as there are very few ideal people around.
Yeah, I had similar issues trying to adopt a pair of cats in London. All regular shelters we found only rehome cats to homes that will let them go outside, which is not only impossible in our apartment, but also just not advisable in central London IMO. And who is rich enough to own a private garden in central London for their cat?! We applied for a few cats that couldn't go outside for medical reasons and one shelter turned us away because they 'don't give cats to homes above the 3rd floor, because they might fall'.
The smaller rescue we eventually found after months of searching simply solved that issue by requiring us to prove that we secured the windows with cat safe screens, which we were very happy to do. It was a nightmare honestly. Now we are proud owners of a beautiful FIV+ cat and a tripod tortie, both of them are really sweet despite their street history.
I'm sorry for your loss. My mother-in-law has a similar looking tomcat that she adopted from a shelter, together with his mother who was also named Lilly. Our Lilly was a very slender, shy and traumatized cat, who must have died during the pandemic. She appeared to be sick, and we took her to the vet, but it was almost impossible to give her any medication because she was full of fear and viciously faught us when we approached her with the medicine. One day she didn't return from a stroll, and we can only imagine what happened. Thank you for the idea to ask for donations for the animal shelter that your Lilly came from.
Lilli crossed the rainbow bridge 🌈🦋🌈🦋🌈🦋 I also had two cats that crossed the rainbow bridge a few years ago. It is so hard :(
I should certainly hope that "the rainbow bridge" remains "so hard" - if it wasn't solid the poor moggies might end up in the river as they used to in "Whistle Down the Wind" days! 😱🙄
REST IN PEACE LILLI
❤❤❤
I’ve lost my best friend ever 9 years ago: my cat Skippy. I had her since I was 8 and all the loneliness she took away from me, was back eversince
Oh no. Get another one. It will never replace Skippy but will fill your heart with joy again.
I'm sorry for your loss. I've lost beloved pets, both cats and dogs (and the occasional turtle and chicken). I just donated to the shelter Lilli came from.
Such a lovely cat was Lilly, at least like our Gus (who passed on at the end of July) she'll be free of pain.
Hope you don't mind me adding another way to help as well, as someone connected to charity projects, if there is a donations centre/shop in your area (my English isn't the best but basically a place which collects items for people with lower incomes) its worth checking if they accept pet supplies, only because it can help people who are less well off take care of the animals they love and whom provide comfort and emotional support.
Gus's old laser toy was greatly appreciated.
R.I.P. Lilli
Danke fürs top Video.Die Spende ist bereits überwiesen All the best.
i know how you feel, i lost my cat too a few years back. but her memory lives on in my profile pic :')
Over the years we had a lot of "used" cats. All those cats were thankful creatures. Most of the cats come to us on an unusual way. My wife works for the church, and sometimes when elderly peoply die, their pets need a new home quick. The oldes cat we get this way was 18 years old and lived only 2 years here in the house. Getting old cats is sometimes hard, cause our old guests have often only a short stop for some years at our home and our cat friendly garden. Every time one goes, you lost a furry friend.
my grandparents too have a lilli,
although she is a diva, she is very sweet,
i dont know how to say this in english so
mein beileid
Cats prefer to live in groups? You might want to tell them that.
Had two cats, one that was an extrovert, the other an introvert. I had friends who even after years believed I owned but one cat as the other was always invisible, hiding away. After the first one died, the second one thrived unbelievably and is now almost always around me.
If the cats have already made friends in the shelter, that might be something entirely different, but cats are IMO not always happy about company.
Generally speaking, cats actually do tend to live in colonies. That's not to say that any two random cats will automatically get along together: Clyde has a very long list of requirements, and we were extremely fortunate with Lilli in that the chemistry just happened to be right.
My condolences on Lilly's passing. On the point you made on the donations - lots of supermerkets have metal donation crates in which you can donate pet food and so on. This is my fave way of supporting them.
My condolences. We lost our cat in the beginning of the year. It hurts. I love how you made this into something positive and constructive.
€50,- donated from me mate. Merry Christmas.
I’m sorry for your loss!
I'm really sorry for your loss. May she rest in peace.
I'm going to share my cat story, maybe someone is interested.
My father had an cat allergie so no one was thinking about getting a cat, but that changed after my fatther sadly died in September 2008, two weeks before my third birthday. In early 2009, my mother went to the shelter with my brother and me, but said something arround the lines of: "Wir gucken uns nur um, wir nehmen kein Tier mit." which translates to "We're just gonna have a look, we won't take a pet with us." At the shelter, we went into a room with a few cats and one of them approached us immediately wanting to be cuddled. The lady at the shelter said: "Tja, den müssen Sie jetzt wohl mitnehmen." ("Now, you have to take him with you") and then proceeded to explain that he usually just hides anywhere since he fears people and one other cat always hits him (that cat also hit me, which is one of my earliest memories lol). So we went to the nearest pet store, bought the essentials for having a cat, drove back to the shelter and took him with us. Over the years, he became a pretty social cat, always beeing interested, who was at our house if we had visitors and trying to get cuddles from them. He always fought with another older cat in the Neighboorhood, but at one point, he just went to their house and instead of fighting, they just laid down next to eachother. A few days later, the other cat passed away. I think he could sense that and wanted to say goodbye to his friend and the fights propably werent "real" fights, just a duel between buddies. In February of 2022, he spent the night with me in my bed as he did sometimes, and when I was about to get up, he got up too, jumped down from the bed and then wasn't able to move is back legs anymore and you could tell that he was in a lot of pain. So my mum and I immediately rushed to the vet and they rold us, that a plug of blood builded up where the veins split into the legs and that we had two options: 1. A painful procedure over the span of weeks where he had to stay at the vet with a successrate of only arround 30% or 2. Euthanization. In tears, we both decided that the second option would be the better one, as we promised him in the car that won't be in pain anymore after the visit at the vet. I think he realized what was going on the moment my mom and I broke up in tears, as he stopped crying and just let us cuddle him one last time.
After growing up with him and spending my childhood as well as half of my teenage years with him, I'd say that I lost my best friend this day. My condolences to everyone who lost a pet. A pet is not just a pet, it's a family member and a good friend.
Yes, that type of thrombosis is not uncommon among cats. My wife's aunt's cat had exactly the same thing: it's very distressing.
Sir, thank you! You are a Hero!
What a fantastic way to remember your cat
Truly sorry for your loss!
Also: pet shops usually sell fish and some amphibians. Hehe
And little rodents.
😢
i absolutely get you! all my 4 pets (3 cats and 1 doggo, tho he's dead, since several years) were all from streets. Im not happy about all my actions, especially with dog, i was horrible to him and the only thing i can do is to make my cats (and other animals which i will possibly have or meet) is to treat them with utmost care and love.
Unser Kater Anton ist einfach or 2 Jahren Abends rausgegangen in den Wald und nicht wieder gekommen interessanterweise heißt seine Schwester die wir immer noch haben lili.
Nach dem ich nach 20 Jahren meine Katze verloren hatte, habe ich auch überlegt eine aus einem Tierheim zu holen. Aber die Verträge der Tierheime hier sind für mich unzumutbar. Das Tierheim bleibt quasi dauerhafter Besitzer, darf das Tier jederzeit zurück fordern, darf bestimmen was beim Tierarzt gemacht wird und was nicht, und verlangt regelmäßige Berichte und sichert sich das Recht von Hausbesuchen zu. Und für das alles soll ich auch noch Geld bezahlen.
Wenn ich eine Katze habe, soll das gefälligst auch wirklich meine sein. Daher wird es wohl eher eine Katze von Privat.
Die Tierheime beschweren sich das sie überfüllt sind, und machen solche Knebelverträge, ein Wunder wenn sich überhaupt jemand darauf einlässt.
Das ist der Grund, warum sich viele Leute Haustiere holen, die aus dem europäischen Ausland importiert wurden. Ob man das Prinzip gut findet oder nicht, es funktioniert.
Auf der anderen Seite: Wir haben mal eine Zeit lang Hunde gezüchtet und auch in unseren Verträgen vermerkt, dass wir unter bestimmten Bedingungen das Tier zurück holen und den Vertrag rückabwickeln können, aber laut der Aussage eines Anwalts sind solche Klauseln nichtig. Wir haben sie drin gelassen, um klar zu machen, dass es uns sehr wichtig ist, dass unsere Hunde in gute Hände kommen, aber eben nur aus psychologischen Gründen, nicht aus juristischen. Das Tierheim kann wahrscheinlich nichts tun, wenn Du die Regeln in derlei Verträgen ignorierst, sofern es sich auch um einen Übergabevertrag, nicht um einen Vertrag für eine Pflegestelle, o.ä. handelt.
Was sie aber tun können (und was uns als Züchtern auch passiert ist) ist, jemandem das Veterinäramt auf den Hals zu hetzen.
Die Leute dort sind aber kompetent und können sehr gut zwischen guter und schlechter Tierhaltung unterscheiden. Impfpässe bereit halten, ggf. dem Tierarzt Bescheid sagen, dass das Amt anfragen wird und dass Du darum bittest, ggf. Auskunft zu erteilen, dann ist das gar kein Problem.
Ein Schutzvertrag ist nicht nur beim Tierheim üblich, sondern auch beim Züchter. Es geht darum, das Wohl des Tieres dauerhaft zu sichern.
Manche Verträge sind strenger als andere: wir haben für Lilli auch einen unterschrieben, aber ich kann mich nicht daran erinnern, dass er so extrem war. Ein Besuchsrecht bei Verdacht ist eigentlich vernünftig, sowie auch die Möglichkeit, dass das Tierheim das Tier bei falscher Haltung oder Quälerei schnell eingreifen kann. Und damit habe ich überhaupt kein Problem: schließlich geht das Wohl des Tieres vor.
Es kann aber sein, dass viele Klauseln in einem Schutzvertrag einfach ungültig sind. Ob das Tierheim das Recht behalten kann, das Tier _jederzeit_ wieder zurückzufordern, das bezweifele ich. Auf jedem Fall kann das Tierheim rechtlich gesehen nicht als _Besitzer_ angesehen werden, sondern höchstens _Eigentümer_ -- das ist ein feiner Unterschied, aber sehr wichtig: wenn dem Halter das Eigentum und nicht der Besitz übertragen wird, dann sind viele Vereinbarungen eh nichtig.
@@rewboss z.b. Hamburg. Da ist von einer "Übernahme" die der Rede. Der Vertrag ist vier Seiten lang. Lesen tut sich das als wenn es nicht meine Katze ist, sondern ich nur vorübergehend auf die aufpasse. Wobei vorübergehend vielleicht (vielleicht auch nicht) den rest des Katzenlebens ist. Aber so ein Tier ist kein Gegenstand, es entstehen soziale Bindungen zwischen Mensch und Katze. Die einzige Verpflichtung die ich haben sollte, ist mich ans Tierschutzgesetz zu halten, und dafür braucht es nicht einmal einen vertrag, da eh gesetzlich geregelt.
Man kann doch auch kein Kind zur Adoption vergeben und nach 5 Jahren sagen ätsch ich hätte jetzt gerne das Kind zurück. Und ich kann Adoptiveltern doch auch nicht vorschreiben wie die Erziehung auszusehen hat, oder zu welchem Arzt gegangen wird.
Meine letzte Katze war ein Glücksfall, war mir zugelaufen als ich noch ein Kind war und sie auch noch nicht ganz ausgewachsen war. Ist mit mir zusammen aufgewachsen, war als Freigängerin auch mal ein paar Tage weg, ist aber doch immer wieder zurück gekommen, hat bei mir im Bett geschlafen und ist 2020 als alte Oma bei mir gestorben. Unvorstellbar was wäre wenn da jemand auf die Idee gekommen wäre mir vorzuschreiben was ich mit der Katze tun soll, oder sie gar weg geben zu müssen.
You should totally do more videos about cats. Your cats, or any other cats.
Seren, our now 11 year old all black rescue cat, endorses this post.
My cats won't cooperate. They never do anything funny or cute if I'm pointing a camera at them.
mein beileid..
The money we haven't wasted on cards could be spent on a bunch of lovely splendid fuzzehs.
Just saying.
s sorry to hear about Lilli, i was hoping it was just the flu.
1:49 never had a cat that enjoyed any other cats presence in any way whatsoever.
Oh and the 5 cases I know of where people got a cat from a shelter, they got a single one into a home where there was no cat.
In Germany, pet shops might not sell dogs and cats, but they definitely do sell bunnies, guinea pigs, rats, fish, all kinds of mice, hamsters and small birds. Even snakes I think. Shelters, on the other hand, sometimes are extremely picky about who can adopt a pet. They demand things like: the cat needs to be able to go outdoors (this leads to the cat sitting in a tiny cage at the shelter longer when they could have a whole house or at least a few rooms for themselves), that you can not be too old, that you do not work too many hours, maybe even that you do not live alone. It is reasonable to some extend but they tend to overdo it (overdoing everything is kind of a national disease here). I guess I would not be able to get a cat from a shelter because I work 24 hour shifts (about 2 to 3 a month) and I would never let a cat roam free for a multitude of reasons. So, the breeder it was for me. Had wonderful years with my expensive, purebreed furballs.
None of the shelters I have ever dealt with demand that all their cats have access to the outdoors: on the contrary, they distinguish between indoor cats and outdoor cats. When we got Lilli we were told she was an indoor cat, but this proved to be incorrect.
@@rewboss that is true. But whenever I checked at my local shelter, most of their cats were labeled as outdoor cats. I realize this is because they were able to go outside before they came to the shelter but I wonder if they would not adapt to the couch life. In the end, it does not matter as long as they get adopted. I just roll my eyes whenever I hear shelters complain that they have too many animals when at the same time it is not possible to meet their high standards as pet parents. I think they try to weed out the people who are just unprepared and will bring the cat or dog back for stupid reasons, but like I said, I too would probably not qualify.
Support your local shelter! At ours you can get a dog for an hour or two to give them a nice walk on the leash. It costs nothing and is healthy!
Before I was able to adopt my dog, right after moving into a new city I wanted to do so.
I wanted this because I missed the dogs of my parents and I hadn't much social contacts. So it would have been an absolute win-win-situation.
But the shelter required a membership in the local animal protection association for 25€/month.
So sadly I couldn't afford this.
By this time I hadn't much money thats why I couldn't also afford to own a dog.
I'm sorry I didn't realize Lily hs passed away 😱
the Berlin Tierschutzverein has cooperations with some supermarkets where you can buy food and donate it
PS: supporting member of NABU since 2005 🖖
edit: 20€ per PP sind abgeschickt
PS: ich brauch Karma-Punkte 😉
We had (or still have?) a local cat shelter in our area, but unfortunately after the "main guy", he who really worked for the cats with his heart and soul, passed away, it seems like the ones who got in charge just took all the donations and simply did not care for all the cats properly. I do not know if they closed but it seemed like it was imminent after word got out about their, well, deceptive behaviour. Unfortunately a whole lot of the cats were too sick because of the malnourishment and non-caring :-(
I really do not know where there is another animal shelter around here, but at least I believe we here in Sweden have basicallybthe same regulations as in Germany, and you cannot buy pets in stores, and I think (at least I hope) we do not kill off healthy animals... I do know that dogs that are smuggled into the country unfortunately has to be put away which makes me angry.
my question is, what is more moral?
getting a pet through a pet shelter or from someone you know, who happens to have newborn kittens/stray cats they cannot take care of?
I don't think you can make a simple statement about which is more "moral": it depends on the exact situation. But if your acquaintance's cats will go to the shelter (or worse) if you don't adopt them, I would venture to say that both options are equally moral.
I'd say it depends how good you know "someone you know". In any doubt, I would prefer getting a pet from a pet shelter. They may question you about things you may not have considered yourself before, they usually know at least a bit about the pet and its behavior, the pets have probably gone through a screening/seen by a vet for possible health issues. So after all it would probably be safer and better for you and the pet.
Well, pet shops often sell small animals like rodents, rabbits, fish or reptiles. So it's not completely impossible to offer living animals.
2:44 pet shop do sell live animals, just not cats or dogs, but you shouldn’t have any trouble buying, say, a fish in a pet shop.
RIF Lilli. She sure was a beauty.
Adopt, don't shop!
R.I.P. Lilly! 😢
I have a dog and if I will need to do any surgery or anything serious I will just travel to Croatia or even Bosnia. It is 4x up to 14x cheaper there. I don't mind paying dog tax but I mind shit all around that people doesn't pick. You won't find shit all around in Croatia.. prob cause we are not paying tax 😂
Lol
100th
I ran into a 6 month old cat. It was a winter storm and I never planned on getting a cat. But hey, who can resist that? He had his flaws, but was my best friend for many years. He picked me up from work in the evening. Walked me like a dog. I still miss him even after 30 years.😢
Lilli's predecessor was like that: if she saw me coming home she would rush out to greet me and accompany me the rest of the way.
My condolences.
😢