Unboxing the Bachmann Standard Class 5mt
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Apologies for my mistake - the 'Standard class 4' was in fact the Ivatt class 4!
A review of the lovely Bachmann 32-509 standard class 5
Thanks for watching!
samstrains
samstrains
Mine arrived this morning. It is incredibly noisy and quite slow. I will have to see how it is after running in. The BR Green looks wonderful on these!
Update: I have never witnessed a loco crawl this well. Took it 2 ½ minutes to move 5 inches and didn't cut out once! It has sped up at a medium speed and is now quieter
Ahh good luck mate - the motor in mine has burned out now, so fingers crossed yours is better!!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
"Rolls Royce of locomotives" as some called them.
Bachmann did a spectacular job on this locomotive.
Ahh really?? Well they were certainly one of the ultimate British steam developments! Yeah they did - fantastic for the price too!
All the best,
Sam :)
I think it had something to do with having the performance of a 'Black Five' with the more comfortable cab.
It's better than their US range steam for that price, although I do love their 0-6-0s just for their overall look.
i liked the start format with the music and everything
Thanks a lot mate! Yeah I was really happy with that! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
I think this loco looks really good! I imagine she'd look banging with some smoke deflectors
Thanks very much! Yeah I agree actually - sometimes the deflectors really set them off! :D
All the best,
Sam :)
Sam- the tender on this locomotive looks as though it has a mechanical coal pusher, something not often seen on locomotives but if I remember correctly it was employed on most of the Standard classes designed by Riddles post-war.
Overall though, a lovely loco. I'm always impressed by Bachmann's efforts- I'm regretting not putting my name down for the new Brighton Atlantic preorder as I know they'll fly off the shelves the minute they're released! Ah well, keeping my eyes peeled for a kit (if all else fails a GNR C1 will do, they were the original design of the Brighton Atlantics- thanks Mr Marsh!)
Grand video as always
- Alex
Oh right - that's very cool, I never realised that! :D
Yeah me too - I would love one of those actually, maybe they'll make enough of them this time ;)
Thanks again Alex,
Sam :)
appart from the standard class 2 the standard class 5 is my favorite BR standard locomotive. Every week I go the the great central railway I see the standard class 5 they are restoring and im very excited to see it running.
Yeah I'd have to agree with you there - I think the 5 was the nicest of the standards, maybe barring the 9F!
I saw the class 5 at the GCR too - it's in a video on Monday in fact!
All the best,
Sam :)
GCR 506 When I was young working at Derby Loco Works I had the pleasure of being hauled behind green painted 73068 from Derby to York many times. I logged it 95 MPH between Church Fenton and York too many times to be wrong. I was lucky enough to come across a Bachmann model of that very loco' a couple of years ago. It is on display in my lounge.
7:41 Fall asleep!?
How could I sleep when watching one of your Great Videos? :)
haha! Well that's very kind of you - but maybe some people wouldn't like it?? ;)
oh jes I agree with my friend Oliver your Videos are always fantastic
Sam, is that Henry in that vid?
Kyan Koh
No, Henry is a Stannier Black 5.
And this is a Standard Class 5. :)
Sam'sTrains did you know Henry was based off a black 5 locomotive please do a Henry and black 5 comparison
Hi Sam
Congratulations on reaching 7,000 subscribers. I really look forward to seeing your future videos.
Al.
Thanks so much Al, I really do appreciate your support mate,
All the best,
Sam :)
i like to call them terrys
Hey Sam. What a stunning locomotive truly amazing detail for the price. I've been slowly catching up on your content and still enjoying how you put these videos together. Great work. Oh and congrats on the 7000 Subs.
Hi mate, thanks for your comment - yeah this really is a great loco for the price!
Thanks again,
Sam :)
Beautiful loco as always Sam, also congrats on 7k! It's well deserved.
Anthony.
Thanks very much Anthony - it's great to have your support mate,
All the best,
Sam :)
You're very welcome, I'm always glad to give my support to up and coming channels.
Nice job, definitely one of my favourite 4-6-0s.
Thanks a lot, really glad you liked her mate!
Cheers,
Sam :)
Nice Video also The Standerd Class 5MT looks like the Hornby Henry.
Thanks a lot! Yeah that's right - Henry was based on the black 5, so the Hornby black 5 should be almost identical to him!
All the best,
Sam :)
I really love the Standard class 5s by Bachmann
Thanks Rob, me too - they do a great job with them!
Cheers,
Sam :)
Hi Sam, once again a great review, and a lovely loco.Cheers John.
Hi John, thanks very much - that's very kind of you mate,
All the best,
Sam :)
Thank you for making this review, I was hoping to get one myself as Hornby's Black 5 is... underwhelming and their 5MT is well... yeah.
No problem! Yeah the railroad one isn't great - and it's hard to get hold of any other version really!
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
Anyway trainspotting time i saw: your br standard class 7 Oliver Cromwell, your br standard 2, your br standard class 8 duke of Gloucester, your standard class 3mt, your standard class. your Bachmann ex lner b1.Now the Complete non standard loco was the Thompson b1 (haha see the link ;) The locomotives that aren't technically standard as such was the br 2mt and the duke of Gloucester.Now the reason of the class 8 not being standard is because of the extensive modifications that were needed done order to improve the loco's terrible coal efficiency and other problems.Loved the vid SamAnd CONGARTS 7000 SUBS well done you deserve it.
Very well done mate! And yes - the B1 was the non-standard, and arguably the Ivatt class 2 as well! Very good point about the class 8 though - though I think it's still reasonable to call it a standard, for the sake of argument!
Thanks a lot mate - I'm really happy to have gotten here!! :D
All the best,
Sam :)
I do enjoy myself some 5mt's! Really good loco and a good review!!
Thanks Oskar, that's great to hear! All the best mate,
Sam :)
9 seconds in and im inlove with the first shot, well done
haha, that's good to hear mate - thanks a lot!
All the best,
Sam :)
A great video Sam, it's a lovely loco and I've just received mine off ebay and I'm very happy with it. Mine is in green and numbered 73014 it's a stunner and takes me back 50 yrs since I saw it 'in the skin' at Bolton MPD
Thanks so much Leslie, glad you managed to get the green one - I think those are much nicer than that black - and I managed to pick one up at a fair a few weeks back too!
Thanks again for your comment mate,
Sam :)
Loved the vid Sam just wanted to say.It is a common mistake but the standard class 5's did have a similar boiler design and wheel arrangement nut that's were the similarities end with the lms 5'sYou were correct with the br mod cons and different running plate but:Parts of the valve gear were Gresley designed they had wheels the size of a Thompson b1they had a Britannia chime whistle etc.Anyway sorry for my rant loved the vid :)
Ahh okay mate! Thanks a lot for the info - duly noted! I suppose it's because they just look so similar!
No problem at all - glad you enjoyed it anyway!
Cheers,
Sam :)
The BR5 had a slightly larger boiler with more tubes allowing slightly quicker steam. I like the Auroc on the low loader in front of the 2-10-0
Duly noted Don, thanks a lot for the extra info on this!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Very interesting history of the loco. Very good review!
Thanks very much - really glad you liked it!
All the best,
Sam :)
8:09 The Standard 4s were 4-6-0s. I think that is most probably an Ivatt 4MT :)
Yeah you're absolutely right, it is - my mistke!
There were also standard 4mt moguld
My guess for the non-standard standard type loco was the unique BR Pacific 71000 Duke of Gloucester which did appear... with the LNER B1 being the odd one out. However there were 2 other LMR Ivatt designs which appeared, locos which were not standards but on which standard designs were based, they were the Ivatt 4MT 2-6-0 on the centre road and Ivatt 2MT 2-6-0 on a siding.
Very well spotted on those! Thanks a lot for taking part,
Cheers,
Sam :)
reali nice Sam and nice vid keep up the good work
Thanks so much mate - really glad you enjoyed it!
I'll do my best! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
weathered one for me and it cheaper thn what u payed still a great loco make a nice add to your fleet
i wish they was more br classes of locos in steam out there
top vid
Thanks Adi! Sounds like you got an awesome bargain there - though I'm rather have them pristine than weathered!
All the best mate,
Sam :)
am going off weathered ones but it nice to have a few in my collection
Decided upon getting a nice one of these in BR green as mix traffic engine to go with my set Duke of Gloucester and Evening Star.
Ooh excellent choice - the BR green ones are just superb! :D
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
Sam my freind has one of these but his smokebkx door open and the cab vent opens does yours if you dont know please check itll be a good detail if you ever put her in the sheds fir detsil you can open smoke box door!
The non-standard one was the Thompson B1, or at least, that's what I'm guessing you intended. Actually, the loco you called a "Standard 4" was actually an ex-LMS Ivatt Class 4!
The arguable one was the green Ivatt 2, which was practically identical to the BR Standard Class 2.
Yeah that's right - and spot on, I didn't realise that was an Ivatt at the time - so you get bonus points there!
And correct again - yeah I can't tell any difference between the Ivatt class 2 and the Br standard!
All the best,
Sam :)
You probably know now but the difference between Std class 2s and Ivatt class 2s (apart from the latter pre dating the newer BR that replaced it) is that on the standard 2 the cab at the top slopes inwards and the tender is different. Also the number prefix is 78xxx rather than 46xxx which is for the ivatt 2.
Now that's a loco I could get excited about. Perfect match with the coaches except as a class 5 it would (I think) be unusual to have a restaurant coach in the train. Great variation on Bullmans entrance. Rating was good but you didn't notice or mention
the excessive air space between the loco and tender. They should be able to do better there. All in all very good. Thanks Sam. ....David.
Thanks David! Really glad she got you excited - she did me too ;)
That's very true - the gap is a little large, though there is the option to move it slightly closer, if you have more gentle layout curves - maybe it'll suit 3rd radius on the shorter setting? I'll have to try.
All the best,
Sam :)
Beautiful model! I think the Standard 5s are awesome! Did you hear the news: The Great Central Railway finally restored 73156, so now all 5 preserved examples have been restored!
Thanks Ryno! Oh that's good to hear- I'll have to pop down and see her! :D
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
These locos are so beautiful.
I agree mate, Bachmann did great on these! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
14:09 Oh Bullman I, you know never mind...
haha! He was having real fun there ;D
5:30 BUILT
1955
Doncaster
Thanks for that - very well spotted! As always - the camera is better than my eyes! ;D
Oliver The Great Western Engine Hello
The 9F have one of the longest train rods ever in steam loco history...
Oh really? Yeah I guess they would be pretty huge!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains look at the wheels of the 9f,its like... Long...
Finally an engine I can actually afford but then again I won't get it for a while
haha that's good to hear - it's a decent loco anyway, I can recommend it, if you get around to it!
Cheers,
Sam :)
7:02 *BR1B not "brib" ;)
haha I know - just the old joke again ;)
Amazing engine. I love the BR black with red stripes. One of the few engines that look good with BR black in my opinion. Still not as good as the Black Five! (:
Thanks so much Sean, really glad you liked her - yeah the livery was superb on her!
But yeah - I prefer the Black five too actually!
Cheers,
Sam :)
Have you ever thought about reviewing a model of the D51 from Japan? I'd like to see you do one if you do
Dude, I love the music for this session!
haha thank you - I picked something a little more modern for this! :D
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
Nice vid mate! A good rule is that if it has the injector hump between the chimney and the dome, it is late LMS, not a Standard. :) I will deduct 1 point on this video because the Ivatt 4 wasn't a standard. ;)
haha okay mate - thanks for that, I'll try to remember! And that's fair enough - it was my mistake!
Cheers again,
Sam :)
Hey there Henry! Looking a little different today, but love you anyways :)
How the locos move just makes my heart boil... It's just beautiful! Cannot be described on words... Maybe because the 9F and 5mt look so familiar to me(thanks to Thomas.)
haha! It does look like Henry - but he was actually a black 5, but these were similar to the black 5s!
But yeah, me too - these just move amazingly, it's that Walshertz valve gear that gets me!!
Cheers mate,
Sam :)
I’ve always found the Standard 5 to be the best of the Standard series. Between their looks and performance, they really are something. And don’t get me started on how they *bark!*
All in all, an amazing engine only beaten by the Duke Of Gloucester.
I agree - they're pretty decent as far as standards go aren't they?! Yes the class 8 is superb too! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
yes I've been waiting for ages for this also half an hour ago a hornby jinty arrived in the mail but it can only go forwards my layout is dc but the jinty is dc should I take out the chip?
Hi mate - sorry to keep you waiting on it, haha! Yeah I'd remove the chip - I had the same issue when I bought my first DCC loco by mistake, and tried to run it on DC! If you don't want the chip, you can sell them for £10-£15 on Ebay, which should make you some money back on the model!
All the best,
Sam :)
Lovely loco.
I do like the Std loco range, even if they're "a bit boring" (to some), however I'd prefer the B1 over the Std 5....unless the Std 5 was in BR lined green (like a few of them were/are), with 4,250gal BR1/BR1H tenders...or even the monstrous 5,625gal BR1F tender!
Thanks Phil - yeah me too actually, especially in the green as you say!
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
very nice loco mate these are some of my favourites!
Thanks a lot mate - glad to have shown a favourite for you! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
great video mate :) she's a lovely loco even for the price ! , some great slow speed performance , just a shame about tender pickups :( , love seeing evening star out again - all the best mate
Thanks mate! Yeah it's great for the price - though tender pickups would have been nice :/
Glad you liked Evening star - she's in a special review next week!!! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
The standard you were saying wasn't technically a standard is the standard 4MTT sitting with the freight in the row of sidings at 12:01
Yeah - that class 4 was actually the Ivatt - that was my mistake! The one in the siding was a standard though - it was the Standard class 3 tank, by Tri-ang!
All the best,
Sam :)
Actually besides from the boiler being the same the standard 5 was mostly influenced from eastern region instead of the midland region
Very interesting! Thanks for the info! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The odd one out is the Ivatt 2MT as well as the B1 since they were built at the tail end of the L.n.e.r. Bit weird to see a Br design built in Doncastor instead of Crewe or Swindon Works
Cheers
Avi
Thanks Avi - yeah you're right, very well spotted mate!
Thanks very much for watching,
Sam :)
Congrats on 7K Subs!
Thanks very much mate - I could never have made it without people like you!
All the best,
Sam :)
I think there's an Ivatt Class 2, which wouldn't be a B.R. Standard,. Is the Standard 3 Tank the one some people don't consider a Standard?
Yeah you're right - I snook the Ivatt in, but it's almost identical to the standard 2! It may well be - I'm not too sure about that!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
The br green engine in the village its an copy of an LMS engine it's in a siding between some buildings also there's an LNER engine in a siding by a yellow beam
Yeah that's right - very well spotted!
Thanks for watching mate,
Sam :)
Really enjoyed the video but I don't need to mention that as it's always like it Sam can you review a American locomotive please
Thanks so much Liam!
Yeah sure mate - I've already filmed one, which is ready to release soon! If you're desperate - check out some of my other American locos, I've done a few - including Jupiter!
Cheers,
Sam :)
Would love to see more of the Class 4 at 8:11. I searched the channel but doesn't seem like you have a review yet. Hope it's on the list! Thanks
Me too!! I will be doing her soon! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Very nice Bachman loco
Thanks very much as always mate, glad you liked her!
Cheers,
Sam :)
15:14 The B1 isn't a Standard
Yep - that's the one! :D
Who else thinks Bachmann > Hornby? Also, Sam, can you please review Mr. Bullman as a joke?;)
Well I think Bachmann are better quality - but I can't help preferring Hornby models somehow - it doesn't really make sense, haha!
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
Sam'sTrains Hornby is British, you are British, so it adds up!
Plus as an American I can tell why you would prefer Bachmann, but Hornby is still better in my opinion!
I think duke of Glouster is the one who is/isn't a standard class since there was only one built
Ahh that's a very good point - though technically it's still a standard, though it's not true literally. The non-standard was the B1 - which was never a standard design!
All the best,
Sam :)
What upsets me is the way the firebox foundation extends far beyond the frame instead of being flush with it at the top. It’s a conspicuous error! The Bachmann 4MT 4-6-0 has the same fault
Yeah it's noticeable - and consistent across quite a few locos! There's really no need for it!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Thanks for replying👍 I have been wondering if that overhang exists in order to fit in the motor or a fly wheel. If the space is clear, then it would be possible to pare away the overhang and replace it with plasticard cut and bent to the right profile. I do like the 5MTs but in the meantime I’m waiting for Hornby or Heljan to do a more accurate one in this respect. Otherwise the Bachmann 5MT is every bit as good as you say it is!
Hi Sam. I really enjoy watching you've videos I have learnt loads especially the service one's. I bought this model recently second hand from ebay but it doesn't run!! I have directly powered the motor and it runs fine. I have power going to the circuit board from the pickups but no power coming out of the circuit board to the motor. Have you ever known the circuit board to fail and if so were would I get one from or am I missing something simple here? Looking forward to hearing from you.
Peter
Hi Sam. Interesting review. Nice slow running I agree. Just one question have you checked why the running plate is bent? Is it a just a poor fit on the chassis or is there something more insidious going on (Mazak rot)?
Thanks a lot for that! Yes I'm not certain of that - I will have to investigate!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
did you do a review of that ivatt tender engine in the short siding? if not, could you do one?
Yeah I did, and here's the link for you:
ruclips.net/video/rECK9SZBebI/видео.html
All the best,
Sam :)
it seams evening star has a helper or a double heder
Did she?! When?! D:
All the best mate,
Sam ;)
If I'm right this is the loco Henry the green engine was based on, the 5MT Black 5 Steam Locomotive. Correct?
Almost! Henry was a Stanier black 5 - different design to this, but similar
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Not quite the same but I picked up an older bachmann standard class 4 from a charity/antique shop for £25. required a good clean and a service but she's one of my better running loco's
Wow!! That's still amazingly good value - you did well there!! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
I got the black 5 and the std class 5 🚂
That's awesome - what great models! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
o ps love the tender 1st loco
Thanks! Yeah I really need to do that more often!
Cheers again,
Sam :)
Strange, i don't any reason why the tender is so far from the loco. For me it looks it has the space to be as close as it supposed to, without limiting the minimum turn radius of the engine.
Yeah - it is strange! There are two settings though - one is closer! Normally the closer setting is no good for second/third radius curves, but I might try it, since they look so far apart!
All the best,
Sam :)
5:30 Built 1955 Doncaster
Ah okay! Thanks mate - my bad eyes again ;)
Cheers,
Sam :)
11:02 Is that Ivatt Class 2 the odd one out? (The not standard one) :)
Technically yes, because it was Ivatt's version - but the B1 was more 'odd' because it was never produced as a standard design!
All the best,
Sam :)
Sam I need some advice on which Hornby Thomas train set to get tomorrow please
I LOVE ALL OF YOUR VIDS but have you ever thought of going to the bluebell
Thanks so much - that's very kind of you! Yeah I'd love to go there - it's not very close to me though, that's all!
Cheers,
Sam :)
Can you do the review of the Bachmann standard class 5 no 73082 Camelot.
Nice loco! Also a nice video!
Thanks a lot - that's very kind of you to say :)
Cheers,
Sam :)
did anybody els notice that the power ranking of 5 mt above the number is missing, realy same when you realise that even some railroad models have that. still a great model i wish i had.
Hmmm yeah that is an odd one - it's very unlike Bachmann to miss something like that!
Thanks for watching anyway, and glad you liked her!
Cheers,
Sam :)
been trying to get one of these
Thanks for the comment - Hattons may still be selling them for that price, it's very good!
Cheers,
Sam :)
hey sam i want to ask a question, I want a BR standard 4-6-0, is this a good choice? thx
Yeah! For the right price, these are fine! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
the writing said it was built in 1955 at doncaster works
Ahh okay, thanks very much for that - the camera always sees better than I do, lol!
That's ok
I have the exact same model.
It's a shame because the plastic valve on the right side of the back wheel has broken off so whenever I use it it'll spin around which is really distracting
Hi, thanks a lot for the comment - yeah that does sound annoying! Can't you just remove it maybe??
All the best,
Sam :)
all you need now is the standard 6, 2, and 3
haha yeah - and the 4 - since I made a mistake, and that was an Ivatt class 4 after all ;D
Cheers,
Sam :)
I do like Bachman locomotives but I can only find one with out the knuckle coupling
Ahh yeah that's a pain - they come with NEM pockets though - so you could probably just exchange them for a knuckle coupling?
Yes true but The sad thing is the ones passed down to me from my parents are the couplings before the model railroad companies used knuckle couplings. So I am now stuck with the Hornby couplings, knuckle couplings, and the couplings before the knuckle couplings.
Once again, very nice work Sam!
I must say, you must have quite a Lot of money. :D
Thanks so much mate - really glad you enjoyed it!
Haha, no I don't - I just spend most of it on locos - and I release new reviews quite slowly, so I don't run out, haha!
Cheers mate,
Sam :)
Sorry for the lack of attendance, work is mad just now
Please don't be sorry mate - please don't feel obliged to watch every one, I'm thrilled that you want to watch any at all! Hope everything goes okay with work mate,
Cheers,
Sam :)
I l❤ve MT black 5!!
Me too! :D
Sam'sTrains thank you
Err Sam that's an ivatt 4, the standard 4s were in the 7xxxx range, not the 43xxx
haha yeah sorry about that mate - my mistake! ;D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Is this different from Bachmann's crab???
Hey sam. Just wondering if you were still considering my idea for strong locomotives. If so this locomotive would be a good candidate. Thank you
Hi! Yeah I'm actually thinking of doing a video with big freight locomotives - because those were really the strongest!!
All the best mate,
Sam :)
I believe that is an Ivatt Class 4, not a standard. Great vid, anyway.
Yes you are right, sorry about that! I've added a correction in the description,
Cheers,
Sam :)
It was LMS ivatt 2mt class
Well done again mate! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Would you still recommend this loco today because I found one on eBay for $45
Sure, at $45 it's a great loco, provided the condition is okay!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
10:17 - All aboard!!!
I dont know why but alot of steam enthusiasts dont like the BR standards I cant undersand why they would since they proved to be easier to maintain and could go on line routes that their big 4 counterparts couldn't
Yeah I agree - I suppose they were less conventionally handsome than earlier designs - but still better than diesels I reckon xD
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains i think their true work horses that never git the praises should never judge a book by its cover
fo you have a city of truro? I love the Bird class locos maybe you could have a express with bird classes.
Well I have a city class - but it's Birmingham, not Truro - and it's in a Khaki livery! I do only have the one though!
All the best,
Sam :)
what a wonderful loco i shop on hattons so do you recomend it?
sam
Hi Sam - yeah! For the price I can recommend it - it's not the most detailed or modern loco you can get, but I really do rate it highly!
All the best,
Sam :)
ok that is something else on my wishlist!!cheres sam
sam
I always get this mixed up with the black 5.
haha yeah, they're very similar!!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
5:29 looks like a Sticker is coming off, at the lining.
haha yeah! It's an optical illusion though - it's just the curvature of the running board - they are actually painted on, not stickers (I think!)
All the best,
Sam :)
holy cow its a star cow aka bullman
haha, yep - he's my prize cow ;D
12:01 Standard 3MT
Yep! That's the one mate!! :D
On the tender is says BR1B not BRIB
haha yes you're right, lol! ;D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)