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@@Overlysarcasticfox how? I used hu tao yelan xq and xilonen on the 1st half of floor 12 and 36 stars it comfortably. I really like the xilonen upgrade
Same Hu Tao will always be my Pyro Dps ❤ Same for Eula and Alhaitham with Physical and Dendro...and i finally build Navia and OMG she is also fun why did nobody told me 😊
I believe Hu Tao's main advantage is that she doesn't depend on Bennett, and as a HP scaler, she has the best scaling in the game. Additionally, she's currently the top main DPS for Furina and Yelan duo.
She was my first 5-star about a year ago and I don't have any regrets. Sure, Arlecchino kind of powercrept her, but I like Hu Tao much more. She's just so much fun.
I really hope mavuika is at least versatile in role like xilonen and Raiden, and not _yet another_ on field pyro dps, but given all they’ve shown of her in cutscenes, she can’t really be anything other than the primary presence and damage (aka on field pyro dps) 😔
I’m embarrassed to admit it but I got hu Tao during her last rerun with neuvillette and I got her to level 80 and forgot about her becuz I got arlecchino 💀 however, I have been motivated to far for her recently because her and wanderer can use desert pavilion very well. I have wanderer, too
Okay wait is the DPC set good for Arlecchino?I have a 84/200 split on my Wanderer with Lost prayer.But my current BoL set is not good what do you recommend?
@@dannybazzz9408 actually, it think it could work. Since arlecchino’s rotation usually starts by using a charged attack to absorb to blood debt directive, the normal attack speed bonus would work on her. It is also a very resin efficient domain to farm due to it also containing the hyper bloom and burgeon enhancing set. Good luck with her! ☺️
Back when hu tao first released, i did a ten pull for fun, i used to do a ten pull on every new banner when they came out, and lo and behold, she decided she wants to join my squad at 10 pity no guarantee, I've used her ever since
Crazy how back in 1.3 the order of best to worst was Ganyu > Hu Tao > Xiao and some CCs would say they feel bad for those that skipped Ganyu or pulled for Xiao over Ganyu/Hu Tao And now it's reversed with Xiao having the higher dmg ceiling, albeit with having to meet a lot of conditions like trying to gather all 5 pieces of Exodia.
I feel Ganyu could come back if Mavuika fixes the Xiangling issue because with that C2 Xilonen that team might actually drag Ganyu back to the spotlight. She still has crazy high numbers enough to still being able to solo part of the abyss.
@@abdiabdi3225 Ganyu has many more issues than the others: needs full interruption resistance, needs unreal pyro application to melt both her burst and CAs, needs Bennett, also she has a bad signature weapon. Sadly her glowup should have been Dehya but we all know how that ended. I don't see Mavuika fixing every of those issues, maybe some.
hu taos ceiling is higher on average, xiao is less investment tho ( depends how u count c6 faruzan ) but hu tao in the same plunge team will out dps xiao , ( yelan instead of faruzan )
@@la_dose5206 that said, i hope Mavuika really fix all the issues! Ganyu must reign as the best Cryo character even when cryo element will be the strongest soon with the snow region!
Hu Tao feels like the Jing Yuan of Genshin, she’s not really meta anymore but she’s still good while also getting new buffs in what seems to be every other patch
Ehh. No. Jing Yuan is more like Eula. Backloaded damage that can misfire or not fire at all before the enemy is dead. Eula keeps getting buffs too like Furina, Mika, Raiden, Eula. Of course it's all pointless in the end. Nothing can make her good just like nothing can save Jing Yuan. His kit is fundamentally below average.
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Putting a DPS in s tier other than nevi still crazy especially when you consider that the meta this game is pointless considering the only real difference between the majority of the DPS is in the game is how fast they can clear the abyss which means nothing because you don't get anything for clearing it faster than normal clearing it in 50 seconds it's not going to give you any more rewards than clearing it in 60 regardless support characters are just so valuable for opening up so many team options which is why the majority of the best ones in the game are all in s tier and if we are going to go buy the meta of the game you really should talk about the actual team DPS numbers for the whole team not just a singular character since the DPS isn't the only person doing damage especially in a double hydro team or any team that has a sub DPS with good dmg
I love Hu Tao as a character. Her design is peak and she reminds me of Hanako-kun from Toiletbound Hanako-kun, one of my favorite manga. I love when she shows up in events because I know she’s going to make me laugh. But I don’t own her and I’m not sure if I ever will. I only really started playing in second half of 3.3 so by the time she reran in 4.1 I had just pulled Lyney. I now currently already own Lyney C0R1 and a well-invested C6 Gaming with Redhorn. I have all the pieces to make Hu Tao plunge work (Furina and Xianyun and a MH set) besides the character herself and her signature, but I’d rather pull Arlecchino because she adds more to my account in terms of team diversity than a Gaming vape plunge team upgrade (not even sure it’s an upgrade tbh). With Arle I can do so many different kinds of teams besides vape plunge. I tried Hu Tao on my friend’s account and didn’t like her non plunge play style at C0. Jump cancels on controller are tough and so is stamina consumption for every charged attack.
well, i play this game because of Hu Tao, it had taken me about 6 months before I got her in the Lantern Rite festival. I got her c1r1 in that phase. After that, I rolled both Yelan and even furina c2. Unfortunately, i have to wait for Xianyun rerun to take her catalyst and constellation. Xianyun c2 certainly gives my waifu massive buff, and also Nilou weapon too.
Hu tao is the first character I pulled for simply because I like her. She's also the only character I kind of regret pulling for because she's too single target focused and I just prefer arlecchino at this point.
the Lyney simping is insane lmao, jokes aside im all for loving a char and for using a team most wouldn't rly even consider but putting him anywhere near top 5 is criminal, his numbers defo surprised me but pre xilo his closest comparison was diluc plunge ( referring to vape lyney ) i just dont see how, the numbers dont lie
@@Juice-chan i agree that its not a silly off-meta team, i think most people under-rate lyney. but from testing on multiple accounts at diff investment lvls to some good old calcs, he doesnt quite reach the navia/xiao/hu tao lvls, in practice or on paper. but my source here is mostly personal calcs (and other theory crafters for reference) but maybe theres just something im overlooking. top tier dps isnt rly a set definition, it means something else for every 1 else. Objectively in terms of numbers he just doesn't reach that lvl. I'll gladly change my mind if i see evidence for the opposite edit : i did try the team btw and i agree its defo rly fun, doesnt feel like a lyney team but its fun to play
I’ve been using Hu Tao with Staff of Homa since the day she released, and I got her C1 during her first rerun. She’s been a core part of my team, but lately, I’m getting a bit bored of using her. I was unlucky with Arlecchino pulls, and I’m not really interested in Mr. Water Beam or most of the Fontaine DPS characters. Still, Hu Tao has been amazing through it all.
I plan on pulling Hu-Tao due to her being my favorite character and the reason I got into Genshin in the first place But due to Neuvillette’s release I ended up quitting because people kept shoving him down my throat and it just became exhausting So I quit for a while until making a new account where now I can pull my pyro queen, keep making great content juice have a nice day ❤️
Anyone who doesn't think Kinich is S-tier should try running him in a comp with Emilie, Xiangling and Bennett. Dude's charged shots do like 200k damage, not to mention his normal shots hitting for 20-30k in rapid succession.
@@longers1028Emilie is not the problem my guy she is pure sup dps she doesn’t buff his dmg by any way his team is missing dmg bonuses since no one in his team is buffing him other than benny, furina’s dmg as a sup dps is good in kinich teams since she can get some vape hits without applying much hydro
@@4..xmy thrilling tales and deepwood holding Baizhu says otherwise. Extra 48% attack for Kinich for 10s when I swap to him from Baizhu. Also have Benny and Thoma on team.
I pulled Emilie and use her with other characters and will never pull for Kinich. He felt clunky and terrible to use in the trial and Aphid event. Right now EmilieC1-Deyha C3 and Furina C6 is the most powerful core for an Abyss team I could come up with(add any random character in the last slot). Pyro Archon is probably going to replace Deyha although C3 Deyha with Emblem and that Izanuma craftable ER weapon works almost flawlessly. Deyha's only negative in that team is the range or her E-Skill and enemies sometimes step out of it.
Hu Tao's rap is surprisingly uneven. The first line is so bad that it's clear it wasn't vetted with the music, but the second, third, and fourth lines actually work quite well. It's probably one of those cases where the original Chinese translation just couldn't work with English lyrics, and there wasn't enough time to rework the script.
I actually prefer C0 so I can flex on the haters, C1 is just too easy (not me coping because I need to get Homa and hopefully Nahida book and I'm broke)
Thank you for always loving lyney I literally never see cc hype him up at all so you actually enjoying him and loving him and giving him the respect he deserves is such a breath of fresh air 🥺❤️
as long as her design, personality, and play style, I do not care if she’s meta, she just needs to do more than 1k damage lol. I do abyss once, and then do open-world/artifact farming. I do have arlecchino but I find her not being able to heal very annoying, and hutao’s personality is a lot more fun in my opinion! Pray for me pls, I’m on a 50-50
Let me think of something that she does that the other pyro DPSs don't do defensive utility and her defensive utility in comparison to the other two isn't even close I feel like a new player would care more about that than just doing damage considering she can do both it's almost like being an HP scalar makes you stronger than average by default just because you can tank very well and is very valuable in any content that has enemies that do a lot of damage Oh and if we want to talk about resin cost if your farming for HuTaos best team your farming Hunter set which is literally one of the most efficient domains in the entire game so yeah any way you slice it comparing the pyro DPS to each other all of them have their pros and cons but none of them are so broken to where you can just own one of them and never need to own the others they are all very replaceable while nevi is not and he's easy to played in all of them which is why he is the best DPS in the game and why he's the only one who deserves to be an S tier cuz on top of doing everything that they can do when it comes to damage AOE coverage flexibility and defensive utility considering he's an HP scalar and he can self heal and it's not tied to his burst so tell me how are you going to put a character like that in the same tier as lynny and arl
JUICE!!! Looking at the comments in your last few videos, I really think you need to explain to the people just how good Lyney is because I'm seeing so many silly "lyney isn't that good" takes, "Hu Tao is better than Lyney" takes, "Lyney is impossible to play without a sheilder" takes, and "Juice is always glazing and overrating Lyney" takes... the community just dont seem to understand how strong he really is, and you're like the only CC out there that actually gets it! XD
@@abdiabdi3225 What do you mean "solo" and "teams?" Who's playing the game seriously without a team? Either way it's just not really true, Lyney's damage ceiling is definitely above Hu Tao's, he has one of the highest damage ceilings in the entire game Lyney can literally outperform Arlechinno and Neuvillette in single target and then with Kazuha he's not even that far behind in AoE.
i’m waiting for a rerun of his to get announced, i seriously have to make a full video on this; i’m genuinely convinced that the real reason people refuse to believe this is because people just don’t want lyney to be good. he has really low ownership & so few people want to try vape nuker lyney even though its his objectively best playstyle… shocking that some people still think he’s a CA bow DPS i can understand not liking him if you play on mobile/console bc he is hard to use. but mualani is harder to use, & people like her, sooooo… tao has NOTHING on lyney man, lyney is competing with arle, not with tao
@@Juice-chan I think you're right. People just never really seemed to like him for some reason (which itself breaks my heart a little). I think it means people just don't play him or watch other people playing him though, so their only information about him comes from the community and CCs, and I don't think many CCs seem play him either. Want to just say that I'm loving the videos, too! :)
I was indifferent to hutao until i got her and she just did her hillchurl line... all the time. Now that i got emily and xilonen i use her all the time with a deepwood benny. Lol
This video underestimating hu tao so much Her top team with furina yelan xianyun/xilonen is one of the very few teams to reach 80k DPS Also lyney and arlechino mostly use different units than hu tao so you can use both
I was a person who got yoimiya first and then Hu Tao came much later. By that time, my hu tao was pretty much the same character as my yoimiya because I only got her, no cons or weapons. She’s currently rocking lithic spear so I mainly play her with xingqui and yelan and while her damage is good enough to clear I never felt that power of like 100k charge attacks I was expecting when I see other people with homa and c1. I haven’t gotten Lyney or Arlecchino so my funeral director and fireworks connoisseur are good enough combo for the main dps slot.
Torn about her. Pyro is my favorite element flavor and interactions wise and Hu Tao has great synergy with some of my favorites like Zhongli and Furina. However the pyro archon is coming in 5.3. I know this coping but I hope archon kit gets better leaks before hu taos banner end.
I always fine myself gravitating towards Hu Tao (alongside Neuvi ofc) despite having Navia, AlHaitham, and Kinich as other carry options... I might go for her c1 coming up soon. (Also, man, I didn't realize only 5 of my lim 5☆s are on-fielders!)
i do think she’s S-tier now, however i usually like to wait a little bit before glazing a character so that i can make sure to do enough background research & testing from the looks of things? navia’s looking top-tier, yes
honestly im pulling hu tao because im so unsatisfied with lyney.. ive never seen the hype with him cause i feel his gameplay is clunky. Hu tao however has never felt clunky to me.. but shes skipped me on all 4 of her banners and when i pulled lyney to fill the pyro dps role i was still unsatisfied so i really hope i win
I really like her. She's one of my favorite characters, but I'm more of a meta player. That's because I just cleared the abyss for the first time two weeks ago, and I need stronger characters to have more versatile teams. I'll pull for her C1 at the next rerun, when my account is strong enough to do all the content.
Well i didn't know hu tao teams Im also hu tao main But team chevreus,kazuha,and xingqui, I deal above 200k damage almost every time Chevreus with nobless Kazuha with vire descent And xingqui with emblem of severe fate
I wonder how that normal text spam is going to work against any enemy that does a large amount of dmg you know since arl doesn't have the luxury of being an HP scalar and being tanky oh and also her being the best C6 DPS in the game is an irrelevant point considering literally every C6 character including best girl tao can literally one shot the majority of the content in the game so that point is irrelevant to anybody who's not a speedrunners and a whale
My account has always seem great for having hutao, homa, xinquiu c6 + yelan C1, kazuha, and now xilonen. But sadly mavuika is just around the corner. You are selling me on lyney though. Love your content.
Honestly, I wanted hu tao when i was starting during the fontaine patch I really want a pyro dps so hu tao is the only option i see Plus the plunge hutao xianyun seems very interesting But when leaks and talks about arlecchino came that shes also pyro, i waited for her eventually Idk what could have happened if i went for hu tao instead but i dont think much will change
If you ever pulled xianyun aka cloud retainer then its okay . Either way doesn't matter much since her dmg is in high tier . And even if you miss 1 star in abyss it is not that much So you can pull her with no regret unless you don't like arlechino that is.
Ill probably pull for her! I like her design a lot and im missing a strong pyro dps (i only have klee and diluc) and I dont wanna wait for arlecchhino or twink mage. Plus i’d love to run her in an emilie team
Hu Tao is the very reason why I started Genshin. Just a simple picture with a cosplayer Hu Tao picked my interest to play this game and now im addicted. I waited almost a year for her and she will be home soon
Honestly if you are asking gameplay wise as a new player Hu Tao is great but I found Arle to be a lot more comfy and stronger. I have Hu Tao on my alt acc and she carried me alot but when Arle dropped I had alot of pulls saved up and no Pyro dps so I pulled her on my main and omg she is amazing and so easy to play. I have hu Tao on cyno's weapon and better build in the xianyun team and arle on mono Pyro and she just shreds. Don't get me wrong I get 36 stars on both accounts but with arle it's just a little easier.
I want a Pyro dps but I am very confuse between knave and hu Tao . I don't have yelan and xainyun 🤧 . I am going to pull for Pyro archon. Which dps should I pull I need a best dps for abyss 🤧 with team options
Burgeon tao-subbing out xilonen for baizhu works quite well for aoe situations too. Used to be my strongest team before xilonen came alone. EM sands or dragon's bane makes hu tao burgeon quite painful-even worth getting stolen a couple of vapes from.
as a c0 toa hav'er/lov'er and had her since 1.3.. i just cleared abyss with her! but i 100% agree, i dont think there is any point vertically investing in her, i would rather pull arl'chino then her c1 and if i didnt have her probably would skip her :(
Hu Tao my First Expensive Character I pull.. I lost her for First Tignari and then I lost her Weapon 2 🙂👍... Buuuut she Carried me through my First 36 star abyss so I cant complain and still one of my Favourite top 5 character in Genshin 😂❤
Been playing since Version 1.0 and she's the first char I invested. Saved my primos and when she was announced I know I need to got her C1R1 on her first banner. Until now I'm still playing. If you're a newer player, and want stronger, easier to play and if you don't like her don't pull for her. Also, just want to rant this out, why not release her skin?! She's on the same era as Ganyu and she got hers already :((((
That's a bit of an exaggeration, but Arlecchino is a lot easier to use in most team comps. Hu Tao's main advantage in the current meta is that she can use certain teammates that don't benefit Arlecchino much, like Furina and Xianyun.
@@Lennis01well Father works great with furina c2. With c0 Furina she still does great but i would prefer Yelan she works much better at c0 with Father
In their premium teams Hu Tao does over 300k more damage per rotation than Arlecchino and she doesn't have to play circle impact. It just seems that Arlecchino is better because her damage is extremely frontloaded so most things die before her damage really falls off. At lower investments arlecchino is a better call though. Way easier to build and play
In old characters, only neuvilette is left for me among the characters i wanted. After that , will pull new characters only like mauvika, columbina etc Sorry hu tao.
As a F2P, I regret pulling for Hu Tao because without C1 she is uncomfortable to play, plus we have Arlecchino as the new pyro DPS who basically does the same at C0, so for me, it is not worth going for her unless you like her design or really go for her C1, But as I always say, just go for what you like.
Do you have (or intend to get): Furina/Xq c6 or Yelan and Xianyun? Yes. Furi/xq or yelan and Xilonen? Yes. Xqc6, Yelan, Zhongi and intend to get c1 and Homa? Yes. If you said no to any of the above, or if those units are already tied up in other teams you intend to use: no.
I still use her and love to use her she is one of my favs have had c1 for years and finally am gonna pull on the wepaon banner for staff of homa since i coudlnt get it back when she and yelan were a double banner.
I don’t really understand what my Hu Tao is doing wrong, she has homa, she has, alright shim pieces, she has a good team and she still doing like 45k ca’s
Hu Tao has been my only regret pull in the game. I was never a fan on her playstyle or her character (I don't hate her). Sure I pull for her C1 on a later rerun which I got as an early 50/50 win but I've never actually used her much.
I have won 3 50\50s in a row so im planning to try to pull for C1 Hu Tao, lose 50\50 and then save for Mavuika. tbh i dont play Hu Tao anymore and she is pretty bad at c0
Double hydro is really all you need to make Hu Tao slap. C1 will get you faster clear times and a sense of amusement that such an old character can feel so satisfying.
@@Lennis01 i already feel the amusement even without c1. I think the people who find her hard to play just have skill issues. And the “expensive” investment sounds so exaggerated
@@YounGenna I usually don't bother with jump-cancelling, since that can be awkward to do. I rely more on having a smooth rotation and keeping everyone alive. The biggest dps loss is a fallen character.
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Hu Tao really be sending coupons in the mail 😅
I just watch her demo today and i already like her in just one video
Short answer: yes
Long answer: pull for who you like, its and easy game
i know you meant ‘long’ but pong answer sounds so funny 😭
@@Juice-chan i never put pong 🤓🤓🤓
(I fixed it)
@@Ghosty2098you flipped back like a ping pong ball babes
That’s what I said but those consecrated beasts are kicking my ass rn😭
@@Overlysarcasticfox how? I used hu tao yelan xq and xilonen on the 1st half of floor 12 and 36 stars it comfortably. I really like the xilonen upgrade
Hu tao is one of those characters who keep getting upgrades in the span of the game , first was yelan , then furina , then xianyun and now xilonen
I have her but I don’t like her
If u go plunge dps hu Tao than better build a diluc
@@video-cv3ov How do you play her? Which part of her gameplay that you don't like? Which team did you put her in?
@@Zuk789 Eeew no ...even Gaming is better than Dickluck in a Xianyun plunge team.
@@xdragon2k u have to cancel attack and it's use a lot of stamina to do it if not with cancel it's too slow
Hutao furina xingqiu and Bennet
She's funnier than Arlecchino so.. I'm never gonna betray her.
xiao finds her funny too, & that guy is literally this emoji 🗿 so what kind of jokes is she telling 😭
@@Juice-chani play with Chinese sound and she's kinda.. playful? Her poems in Lantern rite for example
Treasure Coffin
I've pulled c3 furina and c3 yelan to make her team do more damage, i'll keep going until furina c6 and yelan c4. best girl.
Same Hu Tao will always be my Pyro Dps ❤
Same for Eula and Alhaitham with Physical and Dendro...and i finally build Navia and OMG she is also fun why did nobody told me 😊
I believe Hu Tao's main advantage is that she doesn't depend on Bennett, and as a HP scaler, she has the best scaling in the game. Additionally, she's currently the top main DPS for Furina and Yelan duo.
She's so silly and I love her, but I also want citlali, nahida, and mauvika😭
Hu tao forever even thru all power creeps, hu tao supremacy
Hu hu hu hu taoooooooooooooooooo!!!
You literally can finish spiral abyss with her.. what else do you want..
She was my first 5-star about a year ago and I don't have any regrets. Sure, Arlecchino kind of powercrept her, but I like Hu Tao much more. She's just so much fun.
It’s kinda crazy how hu tao is still able to compete with some of the best dpses in the game after nearly four years
I still use her regularly, they are giving her buffs to keep up. This abyss was top side arlechinno and bottom half hu tao for me.
If your talking about plunge than ............
Silly-churl, billy-churl, what's the highest Hu Tao swirl? Frilly-churl, willy-churl, what's your biggest damage hurl?
576k
1.3 million hutao c0 last record.
New record 2.4 million mualani c0.
I really hope mavuika is at least versatile in role like xilonen and Raiden, and not _yet another_ on field pyro dps, but given all they’ve shown of her in cutscenes, she can’t really be anything other than the primary presence and damage (aka on field pyro dps) 😔
you're likely going to be pleasantly surprised, then.
Finally she understood that Mualani is top tier, Thaaanks
I’m embarrassed to admit it but I got hu Tao during her last rerun with neuvillette and I got her to level 80 and forgot about her becuz I got arlecchino 💀 however, I have been motivated to far for her recently because her and wanderer can use desert pavilion very well. I have wanderer, too
Moral of the story, don’t forget about your treasured characters :(
Okay wait is the DPC set good for Arlecchino?I have a 84/200 split on my Wanderer with Lost prayer.But my current BoL set is not good what do you recommend?
@@dannybazzz9408 actually, it think it could work. Since arlecchino’s rotation usually starts by using a charged attack to absorb to blood debt directive, the normal attack speed bonus would work on her. It is also a very resin efficient domain to farm due to it also containing the hyper bloom and burgeon enhancing set. Good luck with her! ☺️
Back when hu tao first released, i did a ten pull for fun, i used to do a ten pull on every new banner when they came out, and lo and behold, she decided she wants to join my squad at 10 pity no guarantee, I've used her ever since
thank you for recognize lyney!
Crazy how back in 1.3 the order of best to worst was Ganyu > Hu Tao > Xiao and some CCs would say they feel bad for those that skipped Ganyu or pulled for Xiao over Ganyu/Hu Tao
And now it's reversed with Xiao having the higher dmg ceiling, albeit with having to meet a lot of conditions like trying to gather all 5 pieces of Exodia.
I feel Ganyu could come back if Mavuika fixes the Xiangling issue because with that C2 Xilonen that team might actually drag Ganyu back to the spotlight. She still has crazy high numbers enough to still being able to solo part of the abyss.
@@abdiabdi3225 Ganyu has many more issues than the others: needs full interruption resistance, needs unreal pyro application to melt both her burst and CAs, needs Bennett, also she has a bad signature weapon. Sadly her glowup should have been Dehya but we all know how that ended. I don't see Mavuika fixing every of those issues, maybe some.
hu taos ceiling is higher on average, xiao is less investment tho ( depends how u count c6 faruzan ) but hu tao in the same plunge team will out dps xiao , ( yelan instead of faruzan )
@@la_dose5206 that said, i hope Mavuika really fix all the issues! Ganyu must reign as the best Cryo character even when cryo element will be the strongest soon with the snow region!
Hu Tao feels like the Jing Yuan of Genshin, she’s not really meta anymore but she’s still good while also getting new buffs in what seems to be every other patch
Difference is that jing yuan never was meta
Ehh. No. Jing Yuan is more like Eula. Backloaded damage that can misfire or not fire at all before the enemy is dead. Eula keeps getting buffs too like Furina, Mika, Raiden, Eula. Of course it's all pointless in the end. Nothing can make her good just like nothing can save Jing Yuan. His kit is fundamentally below average.
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Putting a DPS in s tier other than nevi still crazy especially when you consider that the meta this game is pointless considering the only real difference between the majority of the DPS is in the game is how fast they can clear the abyss which means nothing because you don't get anything for clearing it faster than normal clearing it in 50 seconds it's not going to give you any more rewards than clearing it in 60 regardless support characters are just so valuable for opening up so many team options which is why the majority of the best ones in the game are all in s tier and if we are going to go buy the meta of the game you really should talk about the actual team DPS numbers for the whole team not just a singular character since the DPS isn't the only person doing damage especially in a double hydro team or any team that has a sub DPS with good dmg
Instant sub after hearing WWWWWWWHAAAATT ARRRREEE SILLY HUTAOS
I really took a second to be like "yes, what ARE silly Hu Tao's?"
I pulled her bc she is cute
I love Hu Tao as a character. Her design is peak and she reminds me of Hanako-kun from Toiletbound Hanako-kun, one of my favorite manga. I love when she shows up in events because I know she’s going to make me laugh. But I don’t own her and I’m not sure if I ever will. I only really started playing in second half of 3.3 so by the time she reran in 4.1 I had just pulled Lyney. I now currently already own Lyney C0R1 and a well-invested C6 Gaming with Redhorn. I have all the pieces to make Hu Tao plunge work (Furina and Xianyun and a MH set) besides the character herself and her signature, but I’d rather pull Arlecchino because she adds more to my account in terms of team diversity than a Gaming vape plunge team upgrade (not even sure it’s an upgrade tbh). With Arle I can do so many different kinds of teams besides vape plunge. I tried Hu Tao on my friend’s account and didn’t like her non plunge play style at C0. Jump cancels on controller are tough and so is stamina consumption for every charged attack.
Yes seen the toilet bound or princess perona from one piece..she even has the little ghosts
A very useful info indeed and give more reason to get her as my 1st 5 star thanks for a good video
She was my first 5* and my favorite character straight up until now.
well, i play this game because of Hu Tao, it had taken me about 6 months before I got her in the Lantern Rite festival. I got her c1r1 in that phase. After that, I rolled both Yelan and even furina c2. Unfortunately, i have to wait for Xianyun rerun to take her catalyst and constellation. Xianyun c2 certainly gives my waifu massive buff, and also Nilou weapon too.
Daily Juice appreciation for daily uploads!
Hu tao is the first character I pulled for simply because I like her. She's also the only character I kind of regret pulling for because she's too single target focused and I just prefer arlecchino at this point.
the Lyney simping is insane lmao, jokes aside im all for loving a char and for using a team most wouldn't rly even consider but putting him anywhere near top 5 is criminal, his numbers defo surprised me but pre xilo his closest comparison was diluc plunge ( referring to vape lyney ) i just dont see how, the numbers dont lie
diluc plunge is so underrated but really give lyney vape a go. this isn’t a ‘silly off-meta team’ it is genuinely the best way to play lyney
@@Juice-chan i agree that its not a silly off-meta team, i think most people under-rate lyney. but from testing on multiple accounts at diff investment lvls to some good old calcs, he doesnt quite reach the navia/xiao/hu tao lvls, in practice or on paper. but my source here is mostly personal calcs (and other theory crafters for reference) but maybe theres just something im overlooking. top tier dps isnt rly a set definition, it means something else for every 1 else. Objectively in terms of numbers he just doesn't reach that lvl. I'll gladly change my mind if i see evidence for the opposite
edit : i did try the team btw and i agree its defo rly fun, doesnt feel like a lyney team but its fun to play
I’ve been using Hu Tao with Staff of Homa since the day she released, and I got her C1 during her first rerun. She’s been a core part of my team, but lately, I’m getting a bit bored of using her. I was unlucky with Arlecchino pulls, and I’m not really interested in Mr. Water Beam or most of the Fontaine DPS characters. Still, Hu Tao has been amazing through it all.
Juice is the Fontaine of all knowledge. Also Hu-Tao is the reason I started playing Genshin all those years ago...
I plan on pulling Hu-Tao due to her being my favorite character and the reason I got into Genshin in the first place
But due to Neuvillette’s release I ended up quitting because people kept shoving him down my throat and it just became exhausting
So I quit for a while until making a new account where now I can pull my pyro queen, keep making great content juice have a nice day ❤️
Anyone who doesn't think Kinich is S-tier should try running him in a comp with Emilie, Xiangling and Bennett. Dude's charged shots do like 200k damage, not to mention his normal shots hitting for 20-30k in rapid succession.
Problem is, nobody pulled for Emilie. Kinich has been so fun to play, but i know he would be so much better if I had Emilie
@@longers1028Emilie is not the problem my guy she is pure sup dps she doesn’t buff his dmg by any way
his team is missing dmg bonuses since no one in his team is buffing him other than benny, furina’s dmg as a sup dps is good in kinich teams since she can get some vape hits without applying much hydro
@@4..xmy thrilling tales and deepwood holding Baizhu says otherwise. Extra 48% attack for Kinich for 10s when I swap to him from Baizhu. Also have Benny and Thoma on team.
his best team is with furina
I pulled Emilie and use her with other characters and will never pull for Kinich. He felt clunky and terrible to use in the trial and Aphid event.
Right now EmilieC1-Deyha C3 and Furina C6 is the most powerful core for an Abyss team I could come up with(add any random character in the last slot).
Pyro Archon is probably going to replace Deyha although C3 Deyha with Emblem and that Izanuma craftable ER weapon works almost flawlessly. Deyha's only negative in that team is the range or her E-Skill and enemies sometimes step out of it.
Pros - she's cute
Cons - cant rap as well as xilonen
xilonen’s rap was decent compared to tao’s atrocity
@@Juice-chan haha i loved the xilonen rap
Hu Tao's rap is surprisingly uneven. The first line is so bad that it's clear it wasn't vetted with the music, but the second, third, and fourth lines actually work quite well. It's probably one of those cases where the original Chinese translation just couldn't work with English lyrics, and there wasn't enough time to rework the script.
Her VA can rap pretty well. Just limited by the medium in that event.
Juice will convince me a C1 Arlecchino user to roll for UwU-tao
and she will win 🎉
I actually prefer C0 so I can flex on the haters, C1 is just too easy (not me coping because I need to get Homa and hopefully Nahida book and I'm broke)
Thank you for always loving lyney I literally never see cc hype him up at all so you actually enjoying him and loving him and giving him the respect he deserves is such a breath of fresh air 🥺❤️
as long as her design, personality, and play style, I do not care if she’s meta, she just needs to do more than 1k damage lol.
I do abyss once, and then do open-world/artifact farming. I do have arlecchino but I find her not being able to heal very annoying, and hutao’s personality is a lot more fun in my opinion! Pray for me pls, I’m on a 50-50
Let me think of something that she does that the other pyro DPSs don't do defensive utility and her defensive utility in comparison to the other two isn't even close I feel like a new player would care more about that than just doing damage considering she can do both it's almost like being an HP scalar makes you stronger than average by default just because you can tank very well and is very valuable in any content that has enemies that do a lot of damage
Oh and if we want to talk about resin cost if your farming for HuTaos best team your farming Hunter set which is literally one of the most efficient domains in the entire game so yeah any way you slice it comparing the pyro DPS to each other all of them have their pros and cons but none of them are so broken to where you can just own one of them and never need to own the others they are all very replaceable while nevi is not and he's easy to played in all of them which is why he is the best DPS in the game and why he's the only one who deserves to be an S tier cuz on top of doing everything that they can do when it comes to damage AOE coverage flexibility and defensive utility considering he's an HP scalar and he can self heal and it's not tied to his burst so tell me how are you going to put a character like that in the same tier as lynny and arl
JUICE!!! Looking at the comments in your last few videos, I really think you need to explain to the people just how good Lyney is because I'm seeing so many silly "lyney isn't that good" takes, "Hu Tao is better than Lyney" takes, "Lyney is impossible to play without a sheilder" takes, and "Juice is always glazing and overrating Lyney" takes... the community just dont seem to understand how strong he really is, and you're like the only CC out there that actually gets it! XD
He has better raw numbers if we count solo but in teams Hu Tao has an advantage she might be worse than Arlecchino but not Lyney
@@abdiabdi3225 What do you mean "solo" and "teams?" Who's playing the game seriously without a team? Either way it's just not really true, Lyney's damage ceiling is definitely above Hu Tao's, he has one of the highest damage ceilings in the entire game Lyney can literally outperform Arlechinno and Neuvillette in single target and then with Kazuha he's not even that far behind in AoE.
i’m waiting for a rerun of his to get announced, i seriously have to make a full video on this; i’m genuinely convinced that the real reason people refuse to believe this is because people just don’t want lyney to be good. he has really low ownership & so few people want to try vape nuker lyney even though its his objectively best playstyle… shocking that some people still think he’s a CA bow DPS
i can understand not liking him if you play on mobile/console bc he is hard to use. but mualani is harder to use, & people like her, sooooo…
tao has NOTHING on lyney man, lyney is competing with arle, not with tao
@@Juice-chan I think you're right. People just never really seemed to like him for some reason (which itself breaks my heart a little). I think it means people just don't play him or watch other people playing him though, so their only information about him comes from the community and CCs, and I don't think many CCs seem play him either.
Want to just say that I'm loving the videos, too! :)
I was indifferent to hutao until i got her and she just did her hillchurl line... all the time. Now that i got emily and xilonen i use her all the time with a deepwood benny. Lol
I have both Lyney and Arlecchino ...i haven't had need to build them cus my Hu Tao is just that good.
This video underestimating hu tao so much
Her top team with furina yelan xianyun/xilonen is one of the very few teams to reach 80k DPS
Also lyney and arlechino mostly use different units than hu tao so you can use both
I was a person who got yoimiya first and then Hu Tao came much later. By that time, my hu tao was pretty much the same character as my yoimiya because I only got her, no cons or weapons. She’s currently rocking lithic spear so I mainly play her with xingqui and yelan and while her damage is good enough to clear I never felt that power of like 100k charge attacks I was expecting when I see other people with homa and c1. I haven’t gotten Lyney or Arlecchino so my funeral director and fireworks connoisseur are good enough combo for the main dps slot.
Torn about her. Pyro is my favorite element flavor and interactions wise and Hu Tao has great synergy with some of my favorites like Zhongli and Furina. However the pyro archon is coming in 5.3. I know this coping but I hope archon kit gets better leaks before hu taos banner end.
I always fine myself gravitating towards Hu Tao (alongside Neuvi ofc) despite having Navia, AlHaitham, and Kinich as other carry options... I might go for her c1 coming up soon. (Also, man, I didn't realize only 5 of my lim 5☆s are on-fielders!)
im personally pulling for staff of homa
hu tao is still a great pyro dps option but at the end of the day
play who you want to play :)
I'm so stupid, I threw a 10 pull on her and said out loud "surely I won't get her in 10 pulls", got her and used up my pity 😭
i love hutao , she carried me for the longest time but then i got neuvi and navia i dont use her anymore but i never forget the times.
NAVIA is the 3rd best dps in the game now… come on juice
i do think she’s S-tier now, however i usually like to wait a little bit before glazing a character so that i can make sure to do enough background research & testing
from the looks of things? navia’s looking top-tier, yes
@@Juice-chan I feel like they are talking about the abyss 5.1 usage rate or not?
I llllllllovvvvee the way u dddddo ur intros ,, its just super doper cool BRO
I personally love hutao.
This version (5.1) i used all my free2play pulls to get her c6r1.
I got c1 Hu Tao for a year now. Shes so great 🥰 Gonna go for her weapon next.
honestly im pulling hu tao because im so unsatisfied with lyney.. ive never seen the hype with him cause i feel his gameplay is clunky. Hu tao however has never felt clunky to me.. but shes skipped me on all 4 of her banners and when i pulled lyney to fill the pyro dps role i was still unsatisfied so i really hope i win
I really like her. She's one of my favorite characters, but I'm more of a meta player. That's because I just cleared the abyss for the first time two weeks ago, and I need stronger characters to have more versatile teams. I'll pull for her C1 at the next rerun, when my account is strong enough to do all the content.
Well i didn't know hu tao teams
Im also hu tao main
But team chevreus,kazuha,and xingqui,
I deal above 200k damage almost every time
Chevreus with nobless
Kazuha with vire descent
And xingqui with emblem of severe fate
Pyro collector Lyney main here, gotta get Hu Tao to complete my Pyro collection!!! I'll probably leave her at 40 just like "father" tho
Hu Tao was one of my first DPS after Amber and Diluc, I'd say, yeah she is still worth but pull for who you want
I wonder how that normal text spam is going to work against any enemy that does a large amount of dmg you know since arl doesn't have the luxury of being an HP scalar and being tanky oh and also her being the best C6 DPS in the game is an irrelevant point considering literally every C6 character including best girl tao can literally one shot the majority of the content in the game so that point is irrelevant to anybody who's not a speedrunners and a whale
My account has always seem great for having hutao, homa, xinquiu c6 + yelan C1, kazuha, and now xilonen. But sadly mavuika is just around the corner.
You are selling me on lyney though. Love your content.
Honestly, I wanted hu tao when i was starting during the fontaine patch
I really want a pyro dps so hu tao is the only option i see
Plus the plunge hutao xianyun seems very interesting
But when leaks and talks about arlecchino came that shes also pyro, i waited for her eventually
Idk what could have happened if i went for hu tao instead but i dont think much will change
If you ever pulled xianyun aka cloud retainer then its okay .
Either way doesn't matter much since her dmg is in high tier .
And even if you miss 1 star in abyss it is not that much
So you can pull her with no regret unless you don't like arlechino that is.
Ill probably pull for her! I like her design a lot and im missing a strong pyro dps (i only have klee and diluc) and I dont wanna wait for arlecchhino or twink mage. Plus i’d love to run her in an emilie team
You see, I love her JP VA Rieri, but I'm playing in a phone so that really restricts me a lot from characters whose VAs are my faves.
I’m sure she is fine, but I never had interest in pulling her. Did go for Arlecchino and am very happy with her….
With Her, Jean, Yelan and Furina The Abyss is a quick breeze.
yeah i completely agree with everything you said...
...however...
...i'm still going to c6 her (currently c3, hoping for c4 this time around :D)
Hu Tao is the very reason why I started Genshin. Just a simple picture with a cosplayer Hu Tao picked my interest to play this game and now im addicted. I waited almost a year for her and she will be home soon
Watching even though I already had c0 r1 just checking the changes to see if she's fun yet... Darn.
Got her at 2.3 and she still the strongest boss killer in my account
Yes. I need her C1 and/or staff of homa. Missed out on staff of homa but i'll get her C1 this time
Honestly if you are asking gameplay wise as a new player Hu Tao is great but I found Arle to be a lot more comfy and stronger. I have Hu Tao on my alt acc and she carried me alot but when Arle dropped I had alot of pulls saved up and no Pyro dps so I pulled her on my main and omg she is amazing and so easy to play. I have hu Tao on cyno's weapon and better build in the xianyun team and arle on mono Pyro and she just shreds. Don't get me wrong I get 36 stars on both accounts but with arle it's just a little easier.
I love Hu Tao but after playing Navia and Arlecchino she feels a little weak
Also i loved the Xilonnen at 2:32 xD
7:53 voila? pronounced as… that’s terrifying
i love the way u make videos,, you should totally make a speculation vid on mavuika i think it wouldbe FIRE hhaha...get it.?>!
Juice is the most entertaining Genshin CC right now, no doubt.
I want a Pyro dps but I am very confuse between knave and hu Tao . I don't have yelan and xainyun 🤧 . I am going to pull for Pyro archon. Which dps should I pull I need a best dps for abyss 🤧 with team options
Burgeon tao-subbing out xilonen for baizhu works quite well for aoe situations too. Used to be my strongest team before xilonen came alone. EM sands or dragon's bane makes hu tao burgeon quite painful-even worth getting stolen a couple of vapes from.
Watching this as im preparing to replace my c1 homa double crowned hu tao with arlecchino
Yup I’m pulling can’t wait ima get paid the week of her rerun
as a c0 toa hav'er/lov'er and had her since 1.3.. i just cleared abyss with her! but i 100% agree, i dont think there is any point vertically investing in her, i would rather pull arl'chino then her c1 and if i didnt have her probably would skip her :(
Hu Tao is why I started the game so I will be pullin despite having lyney
Hu Tao my First Expensive Character I pull.. I lost her for First Tignari and then I lost her Weapon 2 🙂👍... Buuuut she Carried me through my First 36 star abyss so I cant complain and still one of my Favourite top 5 character in Genshin 😂❤
ive lost on every homa banner!! last one twice, and still dont have it! (dont mind r2 tome thou)
Been playing since Version 1.0 and she's the first char I invested. Saved my primos and when she was announced I know I need to got her C1R1 on her first banner. Until now I'm still playing. If you're a newer player, and want stronger, easier to play and if you don't like her don't pull for her.
Also, just want to rant this out, why not release her skin?! She's on the same era as Ganyu and she got hers already :((((
i think kinich is also a s tier dps
Not really now that theres arlecchino. Arclecchino does 10x hu taos damage and is way better to use not having to rely on charge attacks
That's a bit of an exaggeration, but Arlecchino is a lot easier to use in most team comps. Hu Tao's main advantage in the current meta is that she can use certain teammates that don't benefit Arlecchino much, like Furina and Xianyun.
@@Lennis01 ok
@@Lennis01well Father works great with furina c2. With c0 Furina she still does great but i would prefer Yelan she works much better at c0 with Father
In their premium teams Hu Tao does over 300k more damage per rotation than Arlecchino and she doesn't have to play circle impact. It just seems that Arlecchino is better because her damage is extremely frontloaded so most things die before her damage really falls off. At lower investments arlecchino is a better call though. Way easier to build and play
@@Lennis01 yeah like arclecchino can still work with furnia no matter what and does it better than hu tao
In old characters, only neuvilette is left for me among the characters i wanted. After that , will pull new characters only like mauvika, columbina etc
Sorry hu tao.
Love your intros
meanwhile I got a top 1.5% MH hutao in 1 and half days of farming the MH set XD, good enough!
As a F2P, I regret pulling for Hu Tao because without C1 she is uncomfortable to play, plus we have Arlecchino as the new pyro DPS who basically does the same at C0, so for me, it is not worth going for her unless you like her design or really go for her C1, But as I always say, just go for what you like.
Do you have (or intend to get):
Furina/Xq c6 or Yelan and Xianyun? Yes.
Furi/xq or yelan and Xilonen? Yes.
Xqc6, Yelan, Zhongi and intend to get c1 and Homa? Yes.
If you said no to any of the above, or if those units are already tied up in other teams you intend to use: no.
I still use her and love to use her she is one of my favs have had c1 for years and finally am gonna pull on the wepaon banner for staff of homa since i coudlnt get it back when she and yelan were a double banner.
MY HU TAO IS TOP 2% I WILL NEVER ABANDON HER
I don’t really understand what my Hu Tao is doing wrong, she has homa, she has, alright shim pieces, she has a good team and she still doing like 45k ca’s
guaranteed and her weapon is waiting for her 🎀 can’t wait for the queen to come on my account 🌙
Hu Tao has been my only regret pull in the game. I was never a fan on her playstyle or her character (I don't hate her). Sure I pull for her C1 on a later rerun which I got as an early 50/50 win but I've never actually used her much.
Hu tao is fun and she's my first main but daddy cappuccino looks too good
4:17 holy fluff shes been roasted! Those chefs are dead-
xianyun hung out around the restaurants too much in bird form
I HAVE AN IMPORTANT QUESTION???? C1 OR WEAPON?
PROBABLY C1 BECAUSE IT HELPS WITH THE STAMINA COST! WHY ARE WE SCREAMING
If you plunge, take the weapon. If not, take c1.
Meanwhile me, saving for Yoimiya:
I have won 3 50\50s in a row so im planning to try to pull for C1 Hu Tao, lose 50\50 and then save for Mavuika. tbh i dont play Hu Tao anymore and she is pretty bad at c0
I play on mobile and c0 hutao is doing great on my account. I dont find the c1 necessary and i used double hydro team
Double hydro is really all you need to make Hu Tao slap. C1 will get you faster clear times and a sense of amusement that such an old character can feel so satisfying.
@@Lennis01 i already feel the amusement even without c1. I think the people who find her hard to play just have skill issues. And the “expensive” investment sounds so exaggerated
@@YounGenna I usually don't bother with jump-cancelling, since that can be awkward to do. I rely more on having a smooth rotation and keeping everyone alive. The biggest dps loss is a fallen character.