I also liked that her marriage was also flawed. In other shows the dead husband is normally a saint or the grieving wife murdered him. I really like that they kept their marriage more on the realistic side. It also made Jens grieving process so complex. I really appreciated this.
@@trinaq There will never be a third season. It was cancelled.😔 I looked into it and saw that it got cancelled. I wish I was wrong. It's frustrating because we don't get quality shows with quality writing. I just finished watching Dead To Me and it is phenomenal. And I feel Netflix is a evil hypocrite by cancelling good shows and rewarding mediocrity garbage like Riverdale, Bridgerton and Emily in Paris and they're getting a two more seasons of romanticizing ignorance and insulting communities with bullshit stereotypes for "comedy". God Hollywood is trash.🤦♀️
I loved how Judy's bisexuality was rightly treated as a non issue. She fell for Michelle because she "made her feel good", and her feelings for Michelle are just as valid as her ones for Steve had been.
Agreed. Also the creator, Liz Feldman, is lesbian. I remember in one podcast she talked about how this kind of representation (where nobody makes a big deal about it) mattered to her :)
Christina and Linda's incredible chemistry really brings this show to life. You can really believe that their strong, platonic bond, and that's down to the strong acting, writing and directing.
I firmly believe this show was mostly overlooked because it stars two actresses over 40 who delve into topics like divorce, revisiting your sexuality as a middle age woman, parenting, etc. A lot of early reviews when the first season came out likened this show to “something found on lifetime.” Which is disheartening and obviously missed the overall message and theme this show portrays. I’m just happy someone with a platform finally gave this show some well deserved love
I have never heard anyone talk about this and I don't know anyone who's seen it. Dead To Me came out at the perfect time for me, literally two weeks after my cousin died. I was 17 and it was my first time experiencing grief and I couldn't cope with watching most TV shows because they just made me feel angry and upset. This show gave me something that was relateable to how I was feeling while still being entertaining and not super depressing so I'm so happy someone's finally talking about it! I really recommend it to anyone who hasn't seen it yet!!
@Iris I’m sorry for your loss too. I can definitely relate to that too, it definitely took me a long time before I was able to watch and listen to most things. It’s so hard to find media that accurately displays the grieving process
This show was one of the most fun and dark shows I’ve seen. The darkness, female friendship, sinister vibes, amazing technical crew making the show look awesome and James Marsden, who I love. Also, congratulations on restoring your brain cells after destroying it for us for quite some time. You deserve the world because you’re awesome 😎
@@trinaq Actors that play villains are the best. I love when they step out of the comfort zone and portray a villain. When I watch Queen of the Damned, I wish Aaliyah had more scenes. I loved seeing her play an evil vampire queen and I did see interviews where she talked about how fun she had playing Akasha.
When this show came out I couldn’t understand why everyone wasn’t talking about it. And yes, season 2 gets a little soap-opera-y, but it’s still so worthwhile!
I love this show so much, it's a wonderful blend of comedy and pain and truth. I also loved Jen as a character - she's very similar to a close family member of mine who used to lose herself to her emotions a lot but is still the most loving person ever who'd do anything for those she loves. It felt very real but not cruel, as a lot of the time this kind of character would just be written as a crazy, angry woman who isn't capable of anything more complex
Judy is a literal angel. I just feel so horrible for her throughout the entire show. I've absolutely adored her ever since Freaks and Geeks, and her acting in Dead to Me was so impressive. I just finished season 3, and I'm over here crying like a bitch.
The chemistry between the characters is what made it worthwhile and yes there are a few eye rolling “mistakes”(but that is to be expected in a show like this).
As someone who had to spend years getting control of their anger issues (and still occasionally they'll pop back up) - thank you for acknowledging how much work/hard it is
Watching this from Ukraine. It's so scary here but you videos help me relax a little bit. I've watched every video even tho I had watched only Sabrina and this show. Much love from Ukraine 🇺🇦❤️
Ahh yes! Dead To Me is one of one of my favourite shows on netflix along with Santa Clarita Diet and neither get enough attention from what I’ve seen. I’m glad to see you talking about it
@@l.m.t.l I think it’s one that definitely gets better as it goes on! doesn’t help that it got cancelled of course :/ I think it had a lot of potential
@@lee_yuhhh Still had 3 great seasons. Im glad we didn’t get 1 great season then it got canceled like Teenage Bounty Hunters and I Am Not Okay With This
I need more people to heap this kind of praise upon Linda Cardellini. I've been a fan of hers since Freaks and Geeks and she always elevates the projects she's in. I had been wondering about a third season due to covid shutdowns and Christina Applegate's MS diagnosis, but SO glad to hear that we get to go on one last ride. Awesome vid, thanks for praising the show so highly!
So happy other people truly recognize Linda Cardellini's talent, I love her so much she's such an underrated actress. This show is an absolute beauty and I hope it can gain a new wind of audience with the new season :•)
I was a touch nervous when I knew you were reviewing this because I love Dead To Me so much, that it would’ve killed me if you didn’t and ripped it apart.
Christina Applegate was like my biggest idol in the 90s. Loved her in Married With Children, loved a lot of her movies, and upon seeing this on my Netflix home screen … I never watched something faster and immediately fell in love with it. The humor was exactly what I needed in a show, and they knocked it out of the park. Became my husband and I’s favorite show, the first one in a long time that we’d ask each other “heard anything about the final season?” as it had been so long a series had gripped us like this one did. I wasn’t too impressed with the final season, but I 100% get why they took the direction they did … Applegate’s condition has taken over her life in the worst ways possible. It’s honestly heartbreaking to see what she has had to go through in such a short amount of time, but they worked around it seamlessly to where you wouldn’t even notice unless you knew. Side note: this show has THE BEST soundtrack I’ve heard in a long time. All those old classics just fit it perfectly due to the characters. They seem like the two people that would listen to them when they play during scenes, and it fits. Like The Flamingos “I Only Have Eyes For You” is something that gives me chills upon hearing it largely due to how well it goes with the cinematography. Really don’t know how people have still slept on Dead To Me - highly recommend it if anyone still hasn’t seen it. (edit: words are hard lol)
always great to see you geek out over female actors always but also very nice to hear support towards people with anger issues because we really behave in a way thats not easy to sympathize with lol
The genre wasn't something that captured me, but the chemistry and unique relationship between the two main characters was instantly compelling. I loved getting to see a show about older women being angry and flawed, but still finding solace of some sort in friendship
This show has been on my watch list for several months (like so many others), but my overwhelmed ass could never bring itself to watch it. You just gave me the necessary push, well done sir.
I started watching the show for the exact same reason as you did and it pretty much had the same effect on me. I feel the friendly chemistry between Applegate and Cardellini is just too good here, like they have to have become best friends in real life, it's the only way I can explain them being so top-notch all of the time. A couple more points that I find really worthy of praise here: - this show has some of the most natural swearing I've ever experienced in an American show. There is a LOT of swearing, but none of it feels like it's there to build cheap impact. It's just there because characters, especially Jen, are literally on edge all the time. - this show also treats bisexuality like it's literally nothing to talk about (which is the truth). The reveal of someone's bisexuality has exactly zero rippling effect, which I found incredibly refreshing.
I actually like knowing some of the plot before watching a show, it allows me to see more first time watching and focus more on details without too much confusion. I gave the show a try after this video and liked it very much. I love your energy and am always excited so see you brought out a new video so thank you! Hope you have a nice day!
Jennifer shows a lot of symptoms of CPTSD or just general symptoms of someone who’s been abused in her life a lot. The short temper, the hinted alcoholism / substance abuse and anger is showing of this. That’s why she’s relatable and many of the characters are. It feels like you’re watching real people.
I blasted through this in one sitting, then watched it with my husband the next day. We (including my son) watched it for the third time a few weeks ago. I freaking love it!!
If you like underrated shows that end exactly when they are supposed to end and it feels like everything was planned out down to the smallest detail before episode one ever started shooting, I HOPE you have seen Netflix’s Dark. It’s not NEARLY talked about enough, it’s absolutely mindboggeling to me it flew under people’s radar. It’s the best planned show (and honestly just the best show) I have ever seen.
Yeah! I've only seen one show that even begins to rival it for planning (SyFy's 12 Monkeys, which also involves time a lot). Dark's so amazing at that. Unfortunately, it also has a huge bar for entry. I'm usually very good at keeping characters and their relationships to each other straight, but Dark hit my limit, to the point where I had to go to the Wiki to confirm a few things. That Wiki is now fullll of spoilers, for obvious reasons, so I don't feel like there's any good resource for people trying to keep current-day/past-day versions of characters straight. 12 Monkeys has a lot of moving pieces, but the barrier to entry feels much smaller. It never got a ton of coverage, but going back to rewatch the show when I've seen it all makes me realise how much they were planning every reveal from episode one.
@@anakaliahaoa2551 I agree, for me I found myself so invested with the show it didn't bother me I had to watch a recap video of season 1's characters before starting season 2. However 95% of the cast is introduced in season 1 and so after that when you see them over and over again and get to know them better it gets a lot easier to register who everyone is. I've seen Dark twice now and it was really cool to notice stuff I didn't understand on the first watch. But I can see how not everyone would care to sit down and google characters to keep up so maybe that's why it didn't really blow up? Also sounds like I should give 12 monkeys a watch!
Going in blind into this show was such an amazing experience. I too went in for Linda Cardellini (Where's te Samantha Taggart gang?) but also been a fan of Applegate since for ever. So this casting was perfect for me on so many levels, and then I watched the show and even with the highest expectations I was just completely blown away by that first episode alone. Agreed that season 2 isn't as strong, but the performances really carry the insanity going on that it didn't lessen my enjoyment, and I hope we get to see the 3rd and final season soon. I was afraid we wouldn't have a conclusion, so happy w'ell see where the hell this is gonna end XD
🖐🏾 I watched ER with me mom when I was a kid. That was the first time I saw Linda. I think I was a fans of a Christina since Ron Burgundy, she was really funny in that one.
@@carolfigueirars Applegate has been on my radar since Married with Children, and she has been better in everything I saw later. Samantha Who? remains a classic.
No duh, I'm going to watch a very long video on a show I've never watched, I've never been interested in at all, and never will watch. That's just the power of the Friendly Space Ninja!
So glad you're talking about this show, I started watching immediately when the first season dropped on Netflix and I became a fan instantly. What an amazing show. The two leads are amazing actresses and characters.
I actually squealed out loud when I saw you were going to review this show! That’s how excited I was, ‘cause Dead To Me is criminally underrated by audiences and it’s a travesty. Jen and Judy’s friendship is beautiful and so moving and it’s definitely the heart of the show. And they are both such complex people, with lots of flaws but also lots of strengths that complement each other. The way they help and learn from each other is very heart-warming to witness. They are more than friends, they are family. And it’s hard sometimes and ugly too, but it’s worth it. I adore this show, so thanks for bringing more attention to it dude!
I don’t know why Netflix didn’t tell me there was a season 2 of this show. I watched season 1 and just assumed it didn’t get renewed, like a bunch of other great shows.
Season 3 is out. I see a lot of my and my sister's relationship in the friendship between Jen and Judy. Although no one has ever died and I've never hit anyone. In my defense I had undiagnosed issues that made me a hormonal mess and unpleasant to be around. Once I was medicated I became soooo much better. The constant apologies made my sister a Judy and my messed up hormones made me a Jen, we drank wine and laughed watching the first two seasons, making fun of each other.
4:00 Man, I wish more media did this! I've been saying for years, if you keep what's really going on from the audience, dropping vague hints that there's something happening beyond the obvious, then after a point it becomes impossible to _care_ because you don't actually understand the stakes. Giving the audience information creates tension _because now they know the consequences of characters' actions!_ That's huge.
Ok so while I love the fact that friendly space ninja does the world a service by letting us experience franchises which deserve none of our money or engagement without the public having to indeed pay for or engage with those franchises, I love to see something good like this show, yk? It’s nice to hear that homie still has hope lol
Ok not related to this show BUT i need a video on marvelous mrs. Maisel!!! It's one of those shows that are just sooo well rounded. The writing, the acting, the directin, the cinematography, the costumes, just everything is sooo good. I find little to no flaw in it and i would say it's very consistent throughout the 4 seasons!! I mean i don't want to say it's perfect bit definitely the closest show to perfect for me.
This show is soo underrated! I don't think I've heard anyone else talk about it, but when I started watching it I couldn't stop and watched the first season in one evening!
I started this show back when it came out but I stopped watching for some reason. Now I am definitely going back to it based on your video! I’ve loved Linda Cardellini since Freaks and Geeks. She’s always been amazing.
Would love to see you cover Bojack Horseman. So many people thought that it was ‘haha that cartoon with the policeman who’s a cat’ to the point the writers leaned into it a bit, but it covers so many serious topics and the characters feel so human despite all being cartoons. It also has hilarious moments (there’s a whole episode involving improv that overlaps with the theme of Scientology that’s insane). It’s my favorite show, and you may enjoy it.
Every arguments you used to describe the core of these 2 seasons could be said for Euphoria season 1 and 2 too. That's mind blowing to me. Thank you again Space Ninja to recommend me another show to watch this month, I really enjoyed Fleabag last time.
I completely agree, I've noticed that the discourse around popular shows/films tend to shy away from discussing the negatives. I remember when I suggested a bit I didn't like in Wonder Woman & got a million replied saying I was a hater, misogynist, superhero disliked etc despite (none of that being true) me really liking it, it just wasn't perfect. I also think people not discussing the minutiae leads to people (& companies, looking at you live action remake Disney) mistaking what people like, don't like, what effects them & why. Like I agree with the quote "Those who do not know history's mistakes are doomed to repeat them." However you need to be able to actually understand that history, critically analyse it & come to accurate conclusions, in order not to both repeat mistakes, prevent them & recreate or take inspiration to create more positives.
I wanna watch this but I’ve dealt with the loss of my dad for the past 10 years so I know that this show will definitely be a tough watch, plus I’d deeply sympathize with Jen, I struggle with anger problems and grief a lot and seeing that on screen would make this show feel like a vessel for my anguish which would add to the hard to watch part of this show for me
Grief is always hard, but it should not be this hard. I hope you are getting professional help, because you deserve better than to be caught up in a grief cycle, that is still affecting your choises in any way ten years after the loss of a parent.
Dead to me is amazing and I'm honestly really glad that it's underrated and not watched by lots of people. Because sometimes a fandom can destroy a show. Maybe it's pretentious of me but idk like I feel like the writers and showrunners are like often less likely to fuck something up if it doesn't have a massive audience. They aren't pressured by upper management to completely change the show to please a larger amount of people.
I feel like I can relate more to Judy because sometimes impulsivity gets the best of me, and I end up acting before thinking, leading to more issues in my life. I'm trying to work on that, little baby steps. Also yes, Linda is hugely underrated. For God's sake she was Velma in the Scooby-Doo movies, perfect casting.
I gotta say, I love your bashing videos (Riverdale especially), but it's so nice to see you talk about a show that you're passionate about in a positive way. Definitely gonna take the recommendation and pick up the show myself!
I finally got to watch this show and I love how real the main characters feel, that's not common anymore in shows, the relationships, the emotional beats, how they think, how they react, it mostly feels very relatable and organic. I mean in season 2 the tendency for coincidences and plot twists that many shows suffer from nowadays seeps in but it's still pretty great.
pls do a video on the marvelous mrs maisel!!! there's a lot of good (the first two seasons as a whole, the side characters, the comedy, joel's character development), though some aspects have gotten a little stale as the show went on (namely midge coming off as spoiled or ignorant), so i think there's a lot to talk about!!!
I just finished the first season and I'm losing my mind. I watch the show because of this video and I have 0 regrets. What a gem, so many things to love from this series. Totally recomended.
thank you for making a video about this show! it's indeed very underrated. i want more shows that focus on female friendships like this, but what makes this show stand out is that it doesn't really rely on tropes. these women feel real. the character work that has gone into these women is even better than some shows where men take up all the lead roles. it's such an interesting thriller as well. i love how complex judy and jen are. i just kslekhbflkewrkdsjbf
I remember season 1 well, I must admit I kinda gave up at the start of season 2, though I also kinda needed a break after S1. But this does make me want to revisit it :D I do agree though both Christina and Linda were AAAMAAAZING in these roles. I mean amazing in general, but particularly in this show. ♥
This kind of gives fleabag vibes but a lot darker both of the catalysts die in a mechanical car crash dead to me in fleabag it was a cyclist and the most important character is the cause of those deaths and focuses on women and both focus on guilt and somewhat grief
I love this show so much! I have unresolved issues with death (of a friend) and it really felt comforting to watch this. And the mystery was super engaging!
Thank you for the review! You say Gen isn't a bad person, but all the description you did of her and the few episodes that I saw really made me feel like she is. That and the lack of consistency in the tone of the scenes really made me having a very hard time with this show. I just don't manage to appreciate watching shows when I can't empathize at least a bit with the characters (same issue with Inventing Anna).
I think they went a bit to far with Jen. Somewhere between cold blooded murder, telling her son to blame himself for his ex vandalising there home (It's ok when women do it), all around hypocrisy. It go to hard to like her. She is, she truly is a horrible person.
I just found a video of yours and said "hey, Friendly Space Ninja, he makes good videos, I wonder what else is on his channel?" And then I see this and I remember this show, which looks amazing, which I WANTED to watch but forgot about. Haven't watched it, still, but thank you for reminding me to catch up with that!
This reviewer might really like "spinning out" on Netflix. Very strong character work. This one was really fun! I could almost do without the plot and just watch the two characters. The extra tension was nice, but just following the characters was enough.
I really enjoyed spinning out and don’t know anyone else who watched it. The pacing was off sometimes but overall I really enjoyed it and was bummed when I found out it wasn’t renewed.
I know you'll prolly not read that but I'd love it if you reviewed "Bloodline" : it's an absolutely chilling drama for two seasons and it has an half-baked third season that doesn't resolve anything. The way it's written reminds me of classical tragedy in the way it's built and it drags you in its murky depths slowly and painfully, and it's brillant. Until it's not because Netflix didn't want to pay taxes and killed the show halfway through the third season
i watched this show when it came out so i forgot 90% of the plot even though i know i loved it but by the way you just talked about it, i am for sure going to be rewatching it asap
I almost never do this, but I got about 6 minutes into this video when you first uploaded it, but then I stopped in order to binge the series. I had never heard of it, but I love Linda Cardellini, and I trust your opinion, and I am SO HAPPY that I did! I absolutely loved the show and I can't wait until season 3! Honestly, I haven't related to a character so much in a long time as I did to Judy, both in the good ways and the bad (though thankfully not AS bad as Judy's bad lol). It's a great series that definitely needs more attention, and this was a great video now that I could finally finish it.
Okay I just started the video but two quick things: One, my favorite RUclipsr reviewing the niche show that I’m obsessed will always warm my heart!! And two, this show worked for so many reasons but I think what’s overlooked in a lot of the discourse around this show (again, I just started this video, so sorry if you touched it on it already!!) but it’s the beautiful arc Judy and Jen take to become the other half of what they were both missing. Jen helped Judy turn into a confident, strong person who doesn’t need to rely on abusive validation from the people who claim to love her. And Judy helped Jen understand it’s okay to feel emotions other than anger and opening up doesn’t have to be so scary. A lot of people talk about how their friendship doesn’t work because they’re so different or they point out how Jen should never have forgiven Judy for what she did. But, at least in my opinion, it’s because of their differences and how they helped each other work through their respective trauma that their relationship and arcs work so damn well. Judy and Jen’s relationship is the second chance at real love they both never got from previous partners. And, whether they stay platonic or become the gay mom team of our dreams, their dynamic will always work regardless Okay back to the video!!!
I haven't finished the entire video yet so maybe you touch on it later but it's very funny to me you mention that Judy is very much The Tony stark type but described Jen as someone who always gets back up and to whom failure isn't an option without comparing her to captain America! An angry and hurt Captain America but their dynamic functions very similarly and i think that's what made both so enjoyable
Watching from Australia, I lost my job start of covid and I binged way too much tv and RUclips and came across the first season of dead to me and boy I binged it in a night and the next morning, I had nobody to talk to about it none of my friend gave it a chance so underrated. Thanks for this video, as most great things most people don't get it.
You should not worry about spoilers for these videos. I can't see people watching a long retrospective on a show they didn't watch. Also that would mean you can be more specific when referring to specific moments because there are so many times that I will not remember it because it's been a few years since watching the show.
I watched this show because I wanted something similar to my all time favourite show killing eve. It's very rare to have such an intense female dynamic that is basically the heart of the show on tv, and whilst killing eves is romantic dead to me's is platonic. Not to mention in both shows the women are very complex and make it difficult yet easy to root for. Thats why I love them, and I love that you're talking about DTM cause I don't think I've seen an essay on it before. I'd love to see one on killing eve too! Thanks for giving me the perfect vid to watch on my lunch break!!
I watched like 10mins of this video and I had to close it because I NEEDED to watch the series. So I'm back here a week later to watch it all and say: Thank you so much.
So I watched 2/3 of this video, paused, went and binged both seasons and came back to finish the video 2 weeks later. I was NOT disappointed. LOVED this show.
I loved this show from the moment it came out (and totally clicked bc of Lisa Cardellini too). I skipped the second season for a few months, but I finally got back to it and just finished it. Im so happy with how they went about plotlines, and their friendship. The show portrays a great friendship between adult women so well and you just get deeper into the characters every episode. There're no...polished spots, no overly idolized characters. Pretty much everyone has flaws. Its a little raw without making you despair.
I am currently not sure if you mentioned watching that show, but if you haven‘t, go watch „Love“. When watching Dead to me, I was constantly reminded of how „Love“ made me feel. These two shows make everything seem so REAL it‘s breathtaking. As all the other comments, I‘m really glad to see Dead to me get some praise. It is one of the best shows out there. Thanks for the video (:
Proposal to have a spoilers portion at the end where u actually talk deep about the things you couldn't. Because I watched this show 2 years ago and I can't remember the exact things you're talking about lmao
I like how they characterized Jen. Just because she is grieving, it doesn't mean she's a completely good person.
I also liked that her marriage was also flawed. In other shows the dead husband is normally a saint or the grieving wife murdered him. I really like that they kept their marriage more on the realistic side. It also made Jens grieving process so complex. I really appreciated this.
I'm glad to hear someone who has a platform enjoys this show. It's sooo underrated.
Me too, I'm so excited for the final season, it'll be a blast!
@@trinaq SAME. I've been waiting forever!
i loved the show!!
It’s the show I always tell people they need to watch and they tell me they’ve never heard of it lol
@@trinaq There will never be a third season. It was cancelled.😔 I looked into it and saw that it got cancelled. I wish I was wrong. It's frustrating because we don't get quality shows with quality writing. I just finished watching Dead To Me and it is phenomenal. And I feel Netflix is a evil hypocrite by cancelling good shows and rewarding mediocrity garbage like Riverdale, Bridgerton and Emily in Paris and they're getting a two more seasons of romanticizing ignorance and insulting communities with bullshit stereotypes for "comedy". God Hollywood is trash.🤦♀️
I loved how Judy's bisexuality was rightly treated as a non issue. She fell for Michelle because she "made her feel good", and her feelings for Michelle are just as valid as her ones for Steve had been.
Yeah I totally agree. We get one scene where Jen says "well you want her" and then no further comment about the whole thing. Beautiful.
Agreed. Also the creator, Liz Feldman, is lesbian. I remember in one podcast she talked about how this kind of representation (where nobody makes a big deal about it) mattered to her :)
I also loved how it didn't affect her closeness to Jen. She just says "well not with her" and that's that.
That's good(I'm half way into of season 2, so I'm not there yet), I like the bond, it's not condescending. It's human and wholesome, I like that.
hi, so basically you are in every single comment section i’m ever in, we must have super super similar interests. would you like to be friends?
I loved schitt's creek but the actresses in Dead to me should've won an emmy, at least one of them.
nah, Catherine O'hara deserved it
FINALLY someone who loves Linda Cardinelli as much as me, she’s sooo underrated
LC in Mad Men just breaks your heart. She is so good!
She's great in Legally Blonde. I thought it was YOU walking through the door!
I didn’t know her before, but after watching this I love her
@@rubyrider7902 She's Velma.
Love her since I saw Freaks and Geeks! She was brilliant in it.
Christina and Linda's incredible chemistry really brings this show to life. You can really believe that their strong, platonic bond, and that's down to the strong acting, writing and directing.
You truly are a woman of impeccable taste 😁
@@lady_stog Thanks, as are you! I love randomly meeting you this side of RUclips!
@@trinaq Thank you! So do I 😊
I see you on every video I watch !! Even the very random ones ! We have the same taste/algorithm
@@depgabby Haha, I get that a lot, we both must share an excellent taste in RUclips videos! 🤣😉
I firmly believe this show was mostly overlooked because it stars two actresses over 40 who delve into topics like divorce, revisiting your sexuality as a middle age woman, parenting, etc. A lot of early reviews when the first season came out likened this show to “something found on lifetime.” Which is disheartening and obviously missed the overall message and theme this show portrays. I’m just happy someone with a platform finally gave this show some well deserved love
Indeed, I love that this show stars two middle aged women in the leads, and doesn't shy away from tough topics.
Well said!
It's actually refreshing to watch shows with an over 40 main cast. That's why I liked this show and Squid Game
not only that, they play characters who are over 40 and look the part
I mean, I guess it was overlooked if we only care about Internet culture and memes. The show was nominated for several awards.
I have never heard anyone talk about this and I don't know anyone who's seen it. Dead To Me came out at the perfect time for me, literally two weeks after my cousin died. I was 17 and it was my first time experiencing grief and I couldn't cope with watching most TV shows because they just made me feel angry and upset. This show gave me something that was relateable to how I was feeling while still being entertaining and not super depressing so I'm so happy someone's finally talking about it! I really recommend it to anyone who hasn't seen it yet!!
@Iris I’m sorry for your loss too. I can definitely relate to that too, it definitely took me a long time before I was able to watch and listen to most things. It’s so hard to find media that accurately displays the grieving process
This show was one of the most fun and dark shows I’ve seen. The darkness, female friendship, sinister vibes, amazing technical crew making the show look awesome and James Marsden, who I love. Also, congratulations on restoring your brain cells after destroying it for us for quite some time. You deserve the world because you’re awesome 😎
Me too, I love James Marsden, and it's fun seeing him as a despicable bad guy!
@@trinaq Actors that play villains are the best. I love when they step out of the comfort zone and portray a villain. When I watch Queen of the Damned, I wish Aaliyah had more scenes. I loved seeing her play an evil vampire queen and I did see interviews where she talked about how fun she had playing Akasha.
When this show came out I couldn’t understand why everyone wasn’t talking about it. And yes, season 2 gets a little soap-opera-y, but it’s still so worthwhile!
I love this show so much, it's a wonderful blend of comedy and pain and truth. I also loved Jen as a character - she's very similar to a close family member of mine who used to lose herself to her emotions a lot but is still the most loving person ever who'd do anything for those she loves. It felt very real but not cruel, as a lot of the time this kind of character would just be written as a crazy, angry woman who isn't capable of anything more complex
Judy is a literal angel. I just feel so horrible for her throughout the entire show.
I've absolutely adored her ever since Freaks and Geeks, and her acting in Dead to Me was so impressive.
I just finished season 3, and I'm over here crying like a bitch.
The chemistry between the characters is what made it worthwhile and yes there are a few eye rolling “mistakes”(but that is to be expected in a show like this).
Jen being the way she is while also being a mom... feels too real. I know too many moms like that, minus that drive to improve.
As someone who had to spend years getting control of their anger issues (and still occasionally they'll pop back up) - thank you for acknowledging how much work/hard it is
The fact that this thing *ends* is what immediately draws me into watching it.
Watching this from Ukraine. It's so scary here but you videos help me relax a little bit. I've watched every video even tho I had watched only Sabrina and this show. Much love from Ukraine 🇺🇦❤️
Take care of yourself. I'm so sorry for what's happening to your country. I hope you get the help you need.
My condolences, I'm so sorry for the turmoil going on in your country right now, and I'm glad that you're getting some comfort from this channel.
Sending love and prayers💖
I hope you're OK ❤❤
Wish you the best
Ahh yes! Dead To Me is one of one of my favourite shows on netflix along with Santa Clarita Diet and neither get enough attention from what I’ve seen. I’m glad to see you talking about it
Hmmm really tried Santa Clarita Diet… I just couldn’t get into it. I couldn’t see where the story was going.
@@l.m.t.l I think it’s one that definitely gets better as it goes on! doesn’t help that it got cancelled of course :/ I think it had a lot of potential
@@lee_yuhhh Still had 3 great seasons.
Im glad we didn’t get 1 great season then it got canceled like Teenage Bounty Hunters and I Am Not Okay With This
I really liked the show. Christina and Linda are so good. Can't wait for the season 3.
I need more people to heap this kind of praise upon Linda Cardellini. I've been a fan of hers since Freaks and Geeks and she always elevates the projects she's in. I had been wondering about a third season due to covid shutdowns and Christina Applegate's MS diagnosis, but SO glad to hear that we get to go on one last ride. Awesome vid, thanks for praising the show so highly!
So happy other people truly recognize Linda Cardellini's talent, I love her so much she's such an underrated actress. This show is an absolute beauty and I hope it can gain a new wind of audience with the new season :•)
I was a touch nervous when I knew you were reviewing this because I love Dead To Me so much, that it would’ve killed me if you didn’t and ripped it apart.
Christina Applegate was like my biggest idol in the 90s. Loved her in Married With Children, loved a lot of her movies, and upon seeing this on my Netflix home screen … I never watched something faster and immediately fell in love with it. The humor was exactly what I needed in a show, and they knocked it out of the park. Became my husband and I’s favorite show, the first one in a long time that we’d ask each other “heard anything about the final season?” as it had been so long a series had gripped us like this one did.
I wasn’t too impressed with the final season, but I 100% get why they took the direction they did … Applegate’s condition has taken over her life in the worst ways possible. It’s honestly heartbreaking to see what she has had to go through in such a short amount of time, but they worked around it seamlessly to where you wouldn’t even notice unless you knew.
Side note: this show has THE BEST soundtrack I’ve heard in a long time. All those old classics just fit it perfectly due to the characters. They seem like the two people that would listen to them when they play during scenes, and it fits. Like The Flamingos “I Only Have Eyes For You” is something that gives me chills upon hearing it largely due to how well it goes with the cinematography.
Really don’t know how people have still slept on Dead To Me - highly recommend it if anyone still hasn’t seen it.
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always great to see you geek out over female actors always but also very nice to hear support towards people with anger issues because we really behave in a way thats not easy to sympathize with lol
The genre wasn't something that captured me, but the chemistry and unique relationship between the two main characters was instantly compelling. I loved getting to see a show about older women being angry and flawed, but still finding solace of some sort in friendship
Have I ever seen this show before? No. Am I still going to watch this video because I love this channel. Frick yes.
This show has been on my watch list for several months (like so many others), but my overwhelmed ass could never bring itself to watch it. You just gave me the necessary push, well done sir.
I started watching the show for the exact same reason as you did and it pretty much had the same effect on me. I feel the friendly chemistry between Applegate and Cardellini is just too good here, like they have to have become best friends in real life, it's the only way I can explain them being so top-notch all of the time.
A couple more points that I find really worthy of praise here:
- this show has some of the most natural swearing I've ever experienced in an American show. There is a LOT of swearing, but none of it feels like it's there to build cheap impact. It's just there because characters, especially Jen, are literally on edge all the time.
- this show also treats bisexuality like it's literally nothing to talk about (which is the truth). The reveal of someone's bisexuality has exactly zero rippling effect, which I found incredibly refreshing.
I actually like knowing some of the plot before watching a show, it allows me to see more first time watching and focus more on details without too much confusion. I gave the show a try after this video and liked it very much. I love your energy and am always excited so see you brought out a new video so thank you! Hope you have a nice day!
Jennifer shows a lot of symptoms of CPTSD or just general symptoms of someone who’s been abused in her life a lot. The short temper, the hinted alcoholism / substance abuse and anger is showing of this. That’s why she’s relatable and many of the characters are. It feels like you’re watching real people.
I blasted through this in one sitting, then watched it with my husband the next day. We (including my son) watched it for the third time a few weeks ago. I freaking love it!!
If you like underrated shows that end exactly when they are supposed to end and it feels like everything was planned out down to the smallest detail before episode one ever started shooting, I HOPE you have seen Netflix’s Dark. It’s not NEARLY talked about enough, it’s absolutely mindboggeling to me it flew under people’s radar. It’s the best planned show (and honestly just the best show) I have ever seen.
Yeah! I've only seen one show that even begins to rival it for planning (SyFy's 12 Monkeys, which also involves time a lot). Dark's so amazing at that.
Unfortunately, it also has a huge bar for entry. I'm usually very good at keeping characters and their relationships to each other straight, but Dark hit my limit, to the point where I had to go to the Wiki to confirm a few things. That Wiki is now fullll of spoilers, for obvious reasons, so I don't feel like there's any good resource for people trying to keep current-day/past-day versions of characters straight.
12 Monkeys has a lot of moving pieces, but the barrier to entry feels much smaller. It never got a ton of coverage, but going back to rewatch the show when I've seen it all makes me realise how much they were planning every reveal from episode one.
@@anakaliahaoa2551 I agree, for me I found myself so invested with the show it didn't bother me I had to watch a recap video of season 1's characters before starting season 2. However 95% of the cast is introduced in season 1 and so after that when you see them over and over again and get to know them better it gets a lot easier to register who everyone is. I've seen Dark twice now and it was really cool to notice stuff I didn't understand on the first watch. But I can see how not everyone would care to sit down and google characters to keep up so maybe that's why it didn't really blow up?
Also sounds like I should give 12 monkeys a watch!
Midnight Mass is stellar
I lowkey love this show it's really a good dynamic between grief lost and broken relationships but I'm lowkey still waiting for season 3
Precisely, Jen and Judy's friendship makes this show so compelling, and Christina and Linda's chemistry makes it convincing and strong.
@@trinaq I agree it's a shame shows like this don't get any Recognition
Yeah this show deserves recognition because it's a great show
@@angelaholmes8888 period
Going in blind into this show was such an amazing experience. I too went in for Linda Cardellini (Where's te Samantha Taggart gang?) but also been a fan of Applegate since for ever. So this casting was perfect for me on so many levels, and then I watched the show and even with the highest expectations I was just completely blown away by that first episode alone.
Agreed that season 2 isn't as strong, but the performances really carry the insanity going on that it didn't lessen my enjoyment, and I hope we get to see the 3rd and final season soon. I was afraid we wouldn't have a conclusion, so happy w'ell see where the hell this is gonna end XD
🖐🏾 I watched ER with me mom when I was a kid. That was the first time I saw Linda. I think I was a fans of a Christina since Ron Burgundy, she was really funny in that one.
yesssss Sam was my favourite ER character!!!!
@@carolfigueirars Applegate has been on my radar since Married with Children, and she has been better in everything I saw later. Samantha Who? remains a classic.
@@alonsogonzalez7539 oh yeah, I remember watching Samantha Who? too.😆
You can tell this is a positive video because there are no timestamps
I'm here for this James Marsden appreciation! He's one of my favorite actors, and he's damn good looking to boot.
No duh, I'm going to watch a very long video on a show I've never watched, I've never been interested in at all, and never will watch. That's just the power of the Friendly Space Ninja!
He’s good at pushing me off the edge with shows I have a passing interest in, and this is no exception
Me too, I'd watch ANYTHING he reviews, even if it's awful, because his arguments are solid, and backed up with strong reasoning.
im the same, it made me watch gossip girl (2021) which was v entertaining
If it weren’t for the fact it’s on Netflix I would watch this show.
@@hydrokineticpowerhouse I mean I'm not suggesting anything just fyi there are other places to watch this series. Or so I've heard.
So glad you're talking about this show, I started watching immediately when the first season dropped on Netflix and I became a fan instantly. What an amazing show. The two leads are amazing actresses and characters.
I actually squealed out loud when I saw you were going to review this show! That’s how excited I was, ‘cause Dead To Me is criminally underrated by audiences and it’s a travesty. Jen and Judy’s friendship is beautiful and so moving and it’s definitely the heart of the show. And they are both such complex people, with lots of flaws but also lots of strengths that complement each other. The way they help and learn from each other is very heart-warming to witness. They are more than friends, they are family. And it’s hard sometimes and ugly too, but it’s worth it. I adore this show, so thanks for bringing more attention to it dude!
I don’t know why Netflix didn’t tell me there was a season 2 of this show. I watched season 1 and just assumed it didn’t get renewed, like a bunch of other great shows.
that’s so strange, i never watched the first season but i knew when season two was released! it was all over my suggestions for a while!
Season 3 is out. I see a lot of my and my sister's relationship in the friendship between Jen and Judy. Although no one has ever died and I've never hit anyone. In my defense I had undiagnosed issues that made me a hormonal mess and unpleasant to be around. Once I was medicated I became soooo much better. The constant apologies made my sister a Judy and my messed up hormones made me a Jen, we drank wine and laughed watching the first two seasons, making fun of each other.
4:00 Man, I wish more media did this! I've been saying for years, if you keep what's really going on from the audience, dropping vague hints that there's something happening beyond the obvious, then after a point it becomes impossible to _care_ because you don't actually understand the stakes. Giving the audience information creates tension _because now they know the consequences of characters' actions!_ That's huge.
This show takes a very special place in my heart, I’m glad that it is finally getting the attention it deserves!
Ok so while I love the fact that friendly space ninja does the world a service by letting us experience franchises which deserve none of our money or engagement without the public having to indeed pay for or engage with those franchises, I love to see something good like this show, yk? It’s nice to hear that homie still has hope lol
Ok not related to this show BUT i need a video on marvelous mrs. Maisel!!! It's one of those shows that are just sooo well rounded. The writing, the acting, the directin, the cinematography, the costumes, just everything is sooo good. I find little to no flaw in it and i would say it's very consistent throughout the 4 seasons!! I mean i don't want to say it's perfect bit definitely the closest show to perfect for me.
This show is incredible, and I wish Netflix gave it the appropriate marketing.
This show is soo underrated! I don't think I've heard anyone else talk about it, but when I started watching it I couldn't stop and watched the first season in one evening!
I started this show back when it came out but I stopped watching for some reason. Now I am definitely going back to it based on your video! I’ve loved Linda Cardellini since Freaks and Geeks. She’s always been amazing.
Finally someone is talking about this series!! It’s too underrated and I honestly don’t know why
Would love to see you cover Bojack Horseman. So many people thought that it was ‘haha that cartoon with the policeman who’s a cat’ to the point the writers leaned into it a bit, but it covers so many serious topics and the characters feel so human despite all being cartoons. It also has hilarious moments (there’s a whole episode involving improv that overlaps with the theme of Scientology that’s insane). It’s my favorite show, and you may enjoy it.
Every arguments you used to describe the core of these 2 seasons could be said for Euphoria season 1 and 2 too. That's mind blowing to me.
Thank you again Space Ninja to recommend me another show to watch this month, I really enjoyed Fleabag last time.
I completely agree, I've noticed that the discourse around popular shows/films tend to shy away from discussing the negatives. I remember when I suggested a bit I didn't like in Wonder Woman & got a million replied saying I was a hater, misogynist, superhero disliked etc despite (none of that being true) me really liking it, it just wasn't perfect.
I also think people not discussing the minutiae leads to people (& companies, looking at you live action remake Disney) mistaking what people like, don't like, what effects them & why. Like I agree with the quote "Those who do not know history's mistakes are doomed to repeat them." However you need to be able to actually understand that history, critically analyse it & come to accurate conclusions, in order not to both repeat mistakes, prevent them & recreate or take inspiration to create more positives.
I wanna watch this but I’ve dealt with the loss of my dad for the past 10 years so I know that this show will definitely be a tough watch, plus I’d deeply sympathize with Jen, I struggle with anger problems and grief a lot and seeing that on screen would make this show feel like a vessel for my anguish which would add to the hard to watch part of this show for me
Grief is always hard, but it should not be this hard. I hope you are getting professional help, because you deserve better than to be caught up in a grief cycle, that is still affecting your choises in any way ten years after the loss of a parent.
i hope you revisit this after watching season 3. i cried at the end
Dead to me is amazing and I'm honestly really glad that it's underrated and not watched by lots of people. Because sometimes a fandom can destroy a show. Maybe it's pretentious of me but idk like I feel like the writers and showrunners are like often less likely to fuck something up if it doesn't have a massive audience. They aren't pressured by upper management to completely change the show to please a larger amount of people.
I LOVE this show. The misdirects, the pissing on stereotypical Hollywood tropes. It's lovely
You’re the first person I’ve ever seen talking about this show. It’s so incredibly underrated
I feel like I can relate more to Judy because sometimes impulsivity gets the best of me, and I end up acting before thinking, leading to more issues in my life. I'm trying to work on that, little baby steps.
Also yes, Linda is hugely underrated. For God's sake she was Velma in the Scooby-Doo movies, perfect casting.
this show was SO FUCKING GOOD and they didn't let it go on too long
just finished watching the mothership podcast video, gonna jump into this one now. thank u Dylan for blessing our day twice
I gotta say, I love your bashing videos (Riverdale especially), but it's so nice to see you talk about a show that you're passionate about in a positive way. Definitely gonna take the recommendation and pick up the show myself!
Finally someone talk about this show, bonus points because it's you (you're the best fr)
I fucking adore this show
*Whenever I see Linda Cardellini, I just see the “who’s your mommy” scene from Scooby-Doo and I won’t apologize for that lmfaoooo*
I finally got to watch this show and I love how real the main characters feel, that's not common anymore in shows, the relationships, the emotional beats, how they think, how they react, it mostly feels very relatable and organic. I mean in season 2 the tendency for coincidences and plot twists that many shows suffer from nowadays seeps in but it's still pretty great.
pls do a video on the marvelous mrs maisel!!! there's a lot of good (the first two seasons as a whole, the side characters, the comedy, joel's character development), though some aspects have gotten a little stale as the show went on (namely midge coming off as spoiled or ignorant), so i think there's a lot to talk about!!!
I just finished the first season and I'm losing my mind. I watch the show because of this video and I have 0 regrets. What a gem, so many things to love from this series. Totally recomended.
I have literally watched dead to me 4-5 times. Can't wait for season 3 coming on November 17th
I freaking love this show and had no idea you were doing this!!!!
thank you for making a video about this show! it's indeed very underrated. i want more shows that focus on female friendships like this, but what makes this show stand out is that it doesn't really rely on tropes. these women feel real. the character work that has gone into these women is even better than some shows where men take up all the lead roles. it's such an interesting thriller as well. i love how complex judy and jen are. i just kslekhbflkewrkdsjbf
The end of season two is the perfect example of the energy of the whole show. Incredibly dramatic but oh boy did I laughed harrrd
I just listened to a podcast with the creator the other day and am so happy you are covering the show!
I'm totally sold since we're talking about Christina Applegate and Linda Cardellini
I remember season 1 well, I must admit I kinda gave up at the start of season 2, though I also kinda needed a break after S1. But this does make me want to revisit it :D
I do agree though both Christina and Linda were AAAMAAAZING in these roles. I mean amazing in general, but particularly in this show. ♥
I adore this show. I saw this and said Yeeees a video about a series i like.
I love hearing your enthusiasm for this show; I'll be checking it out now.
A new podcast episode AND a video in the same day? You're spoiling us!
This kind of gives fleabag vibes but a lot darker both of the catalysts die in a mechanical car crash dead to me in fleabag it was a cyclist and the most important character is the cause of those deaths and focuses on women and both focus on guilt and somewhat grief
I love this show so much! I have unresolved issues with death (of a friend) and it really felt comforting to watch this. And the mystery was super engaging!
One of the greatest shows of all time, absolutely 20/10
Thank you for the review! You say Gen isn't a bad person, but all the description you did of her and the few episodes that I saw really made me feel like she is. That and the lack of consistency in the tone of the scenes really made me having a very hard time with this show. I just don't manage to appreciate watching shows when I can't empathize at least a bit with the characters (same issue with Inventing Anna).
I think they went a bit to far with Jen. Somewhere between cold blooded murder, telling her son to blame himself for his ex vandalising there home (It's ok when women do it), all around hypocrisy. It go to hard to like her. She is, she truly is a horrible person.
I just found a video of yours and said "hey, Friendly Space Ninja, he makes good videos, I wonder what else is on his channel?" And then I see this and I remember this show, which looks amazing, which I WANTED to watch but forgot about. Haven't watched it, still, but thank you for reminding me to catch up with that!
This reviewer might really like "spinning out" on Netflix. Very strong character work. This one was really fun! I could almost do without the plot and just watch the two characters. The extra tension was nice, but just following the characters was enough.
I really enjoyed spinning out and don’t know anyone else who watched it. The pacing was off sometimes but overall I really enjoyed it and was bummed when I found out it wasn’t renewed.
I know you'll prolly not read that but I'd love it if you reviewed "Bloodline" : it's an absolutely chilling drama for two seasons and it has an half-baked third season that doesn't resolve anything. The way it's written reminds me of classical tragedy in the way it's built and it drags you in its murky depths slowly and painfully, and it's brillant. Until it's not because Netflix didn't want to pay taxes and killed the show halfway through the third season
i watched this show when it came out so i forgot 90% of the plot even though i know i loved it but by the way you just talked about it, i am for sure going to be rewatching it asap
I almost never do this, but I got about 6 minutes into this video when you first uploaded it, but then I stopped in order to binge the series. I had never heard of it, but I love Linda Cardellini, and I trust your opinion, and I am SO HAPPY that I did! I absolutely loved the show and I can't wait until season 3! Honestly, I haven't related to a character so much in a long time as I did to Judy, both in the good ways and the bad (though thankfully not AS bad as Judy's bad lol). It's a great series that definitely needs more attention, and this was a great video now that I could finally finish it.
Why didn't I get a notification nor was this at all in my subscription tab?? Like, if it hadn't been suggested to me I wouldn't have seen it!!
Okay I just started the video but two quick things:
One, my favorite RUclipsr reviewing the niche show that I’m obsessed will always warm my heart!!
And two, this show worked for so many reasons but I think what’s overlooked in a lot of the discourse around this show (again, I just started this video, so sorry if you touched it on it already!!) but it’s the beautiful arc Judy and Jen take to become the other half of what they were both missing. Jen helped Judy turn into a confident, strong person who doesn’t need to rely on abusive validation from the people who claim to love her. And Judy helped Jen understand it’s okay to feel emotions other than anger and opening up doesn’t have to be so scary. A lot of people talk about how their friendship doesn’t work because they’re so different or they point out how Jen should never have forgiven Judy for what she did. But, at least in my opinion, it’s because of their differences and how they helped each other work through their respective trauma that their relationship and arcs work so damn well. Judy and Jen’s relationship is the second chance at real love they both never got from previous partners. And, whether they stay platonic or become the gay mom team of our dreams, their dynamic will always work regardless
Okay back to the video!!!
I love this show. I keep watching it and find something I’ve missed each time I do.
I haven't finished the entire video yet so maybe you touch on it later but it's very funny to me you mention that Judy is very much The Tony stark type but described Jen as someone who always gets back up and to whom failure isn't an option without comparing her to captain America!
An angry and hurt Captain America but their dynamic functions very similarly and i think that's what made both so enjoyable
Watching from Australia, I lost my job start of covid and I binged way too much tv and RUclips and came across the first season of dead to me and boy I binged it in a night and the next morning, I had nobody to talk to about it none of my friend gave it a chance so underrated. Thanks for this video, as most great things most people don't get it.
You should not worry about spoilers for these videos. I can't see people watching a long retrospective on a show they didn't watch. Also that would mean you can be more specific when referring to specific moments because there are so many times that I will not remember it because it's been a few years since watching the show.
I absolutely adore this show and I’m so excited for season 3. Thank you so much for bringing attention to this show!
I watched this show because I wanted something similar to my all time favourite show killing eve. It's very rare to have such an intense female dynamic that is basically the heart of the show on tv, and whilst killing eves is romantic dead to me's is platonic. Not to mention in both shows the women are very complex and make it difficult yet easy to root for. Thats why I love them, and I love that you're talking about DTM cause I don't think I've seen an essay on it before. I'd love to see one on killing eve too! Thanks for giving me the perfect vid to watch on my lunch break!!
I watched like 10mins of this video and I had to close it because I NEEDED to watch the series. So I'm back here a week later to watch it all and say: Thank you so much.
ugh i am SO happy to see someone talking about this show!! me and my mom have loved it since it came out.
One of my forever shows. I’ve watched it several times. Loved everything about it.
So I watched 2/3 of this video, paused, went and binged both seasons and came back to finish the video 2 weeks later. I was NOT disappointed. LOVED this show.
I loved this show from the moment it came out (and totally clicked bc of Lisa Cardellini too). I skipped the second season for a few months, but I finally got back to it and just finished it. Im so happy with how they went about plotlines, and their friendship. The show portrays a great friendship between adult women so well and you just get deeper into the characters every episode. There're no...polished spots, no overly idolized characters. Pretty much everyone has flaws. Its a little raw without making you despair.
I am currently not sure if you mentioned watching that show, but if you haven‘t, go watch „Love“. When watching Dead to me, I was constantly reminded of how „Love“ made me feel. These two shows make everything seem so REAL it‘s breathtaking. As all the other comments, I‘m really glad to see Dead to me get some praise. It is one of the best shows out there. Thanks for the video (:
I really enjoyed Dead to Me. Left me craving for more.
Excellent video as usual Friendly Space Ninja.
Finished dead to me and I’m still trying to figure out which season 2 twist Dylan was talking about 😂😂
Proposal to have a spoilers portion at the end where u actually talk deep about the things you couldn't. Because I watched this show 2 years ago and I can't remember the exact things you're talking about lmao