Hey Brother !!! I am Watching and Enjoying my Friend !!! Just been Runnin Runnin Runnin, got to make it when I can !!! LOL ... I am digging your Caractacus Potts Method of Engineering of the Carrier Bearing !!! For that matter all your Creative Engineering on your Work Horse of a Tractor !!! The Tiller Assembly you have created is NEXT LEVEL, and the Lighting takes it Over the Top !!! My Hats off to you Brother, Fine Job !!! I really Enjoy your Videos !!! Thank You so much for the Shout Out !!!
Thank you. You are absolutely right, if I were tilling this soil for function I would have definately mowed first. For this video, I was just testing out the driveline in a vacant lot.
Well I did the carb all new and I thought I was getting good spark and I was but it was cutting out on me so the spark was off and on so come to find out I had to put in a new condenser and it's up and running great and I'm splitting wood with it I can believe how much power this old motor has for a 1970 model and being all cast iron and I had to reset the carb like you said to set it at and when I did it ran so much better with your settings so thank you vary much and keep putting out the videos I enjoy watching them thank you again have a great nite
That's great to hear. These old engines were built when the horsepower rating really meant something. For the future, don't get overwhelmed with small engines...they only need three things to run... fuel, spark and compression. Break it down into those three basic diagnostic parts and you can get any engine running again.
Man you have some awesome talent with a piece of pipe or metal or any think like that. Been watching your videos for about a year now so keep up the good work!!
Thank you for the comment, I don't plan on painting it now. I am going to use it to till firebreaks, push snow and scrape paths. I don't want to be worried about pretty paint. I have several vids of this tractor from when I bought it at an estate sale to where it is today. Thanks for watching.
@whitehd01 Thanks for the comment. I don't watch much television and I love being outside. I really get satisfaction creating something out of nothing and this has been a great project so far. I don't think they are very common. They do pop up now and again, but are very expensive. I got very lucky finding this machine in it's condition. One owner before me...not cut up and modified and no real barnyard repairs....
I have a Gilson just like that and I am doing a complete rebuild frame the ground up. Instead of blue an black I'm doing mine dark red and white with black
@Mopardude I worry about the clearance too...I made a skid plate to protect the front pulley. Otherwise the shaft is where the stock one ran.... the angle on the universal and front pulley are lined up, and frame design limitations prevent me from tucking it up any farther. I guess they figured if you are using the tiller, it is for garden beds which are typically brush free and level. I, of course, will be using it to cut fire breaks around structures, so anything can happen. stay tuned.
For a workin tractor like that the low shaft would have me worried about ground clearance. But other wise its a pretty sweet setup you have going on now. You can accomplish many a task now!
@fritzhvac Hey Fritz, I totally was thinkng of you when the HVAC guys were servicing the system. That AC bearing was just the ticket to getting that PTO to work....and I have a second one as a spare.... the world is a good place. lol. Thanks for watching my videos.
@trbfshmn TRB, I had planned on welding a gusset on that bracket. I need it to be able to be removed when not in use. I noticed the flex before, but I always tend to overengineer stuff (cause I don't usually use things for their intended purpose) and wanted to see how it worked as is. Firming up the bracket may stop the belt squeak and it is a brand new belt and had the "new belt slime" on it. I will keep y'all informed. Thanks for watching. ybk
@jackcass13 It is a little oval... the old guy who owned it used to pull humself up into the seat with the wheel. He also used to slide out on the left fender (notice it sits very close to the wheel) I need to correct that if I plan on running chains in the snow/ice.
I really like how you create attachments for the tractor. I wonder how rare your tractor is? I havent seen one around here for sale on ebay or craigslist!
This tractor is kept at a different location and I don't have immediate access to it. The lift connection is a simple rod that connects to the hydraulic ram on the belly of the tractor to a point on the tiller.
***** Thank you I think the reason I can't make my lever lock is because the belt I bought might be slightly thicker ... do you have the belt part number? And where can i buy it? I was told belt size is 1/2 x 35 or 5/8 x 35 thanks for your videos!
Ruben Lemus Hi Ruben, I don't have the tractor handy today... it's raining outside and it's under a cover. If I remember right, it is a thicker than typical belt, so 5/8" sounds right. You have the tensioner pulley riding on the outside of the belt right? If your PTO lever is not locking maybe the new belt has more tension than the old belt coupled with wear in the lever system is not allowing it to stay locked. I had to work on my levewr system in order for the PTO lever to stay forward. Best of luck.
you make great videos my grandfather had this tractor but it was 14 hp and 1972, anyways im glad you make these videos because my grandfather died and this is the closest thing i got and are you gonna paint the tractor
i have a 14 hp montgomery ward tractor got out of the bushes and is running fine it is standart shift no lifts but has atachements blade and plow and deck where can you buy parts for these tractors ?
Hey. I have one of these! Could you show me the small piece of shaft that connects directly to the tiller. I have the main piece and belt. Need to fabricate the small one.
You are talking about the lift arm right? not the driveshaft? I have a playlist for this tractor on my main page and I show the lift arm. I keep this tractor on a different property that's a distance away, but I believe I have a second lift arm that I can get you better pictures/measurements if my video doesn't show it well enough.
@@yourbeekeeper ok. Just watched the video again. I saw what I need! There is a u joint section! I have the part you had to fabricate! You have the part I must fabricate! I can get it done now. Don't know how I overlooked it in your video. But hey thank you for the video and your time!
Here's one for ya I have the same motor that someone took out of a tractor like yours and installed that motor into a homemade log splitter and I'm haveing problems with the motor to stay running so the carb was all nasty so I took it off and cleaned it all out completely and then found a rebuild kit for that carb and rebuilt it and if fires right up but then dies the bowl is still full of gas but it won't keep pushing fuel for some reason it just runs out of gas I let it sit for a few minutes then hit the key and it starts right back up then dies again did you have any problems with your carb or fuel so I took it back apart and there isn't anything wrong that I can see so if you have had problems with your carb can you give me the settings on the carb and what do you think it might be ??? lol I need help if you can think of anything thanks for your input !!
Assuming your compression is good and there are no leaks in the intake gasket, I would suspect you have missed cleaning the idle jet or your idle screw is leaking air by either a worn screw or worn o-ring.. The screw setting are around 1 1/2~2 turns out...that will get you running and then you fine tune it from there.
Well that may just be the problem I have the jet set at 1 to 1 1/4 turn out so maybe I'm just not getting enough air fuel mix to even get it to run at all I did a compression check and at 125 or a little more then that and nothing is leaking around the head at all I left the compession gage in for over 30 minutes and it didn't drop at all so I'll reset the air screw and try that thank you I'll let you know what happens
It felt like I was trying to till up concrete...lol. Things were too dry and packed. I was really just trying to stress the drive-line to see how it would hold up.
Hey Beekeeper, I have the same rig. same color, same patina except mine is not hydrostatic. Every time I engage the tiller and its in use for about 15 minutes the engine dies. After setting for maybe 30 minutes it starts right up...happens over and over. Any ideas?
Hey David, By the sound of it, I would suspect ignition components. Points, Condenser or coil....I would replace the coil first. Running the tiller puts a good load on the engine and causes it to run hotter. The fact that you have to wait for things to cool down before it starts up sounds like coil. Next time it runs to failure, I would test the spark and see if it's present. If you still have spark and it's not starting, It could be vapor locking the fuel, but that's not common in those engines. Another distant possibility is low compression...test it cold... maybe when it gets to temp the compression drops to the point it doesn't want to run... but a very low possibility. Best of luck with your tractor...I love mine so much I have two...lol. Let me know how it sorts out. Thanks for watching.
hello +yourbeekeeper is there a way you can let me know belt sizes? i have one just like it same tiller as well... i know the pto belt is 57x5/8 but dont know the size of the one that engages the tiller its a smaller one. thanks!
Hi Ruben, I don't have the original pulley box for the pto. I fabricated a pulley system to drive the tiller and I am sure it's not the same size belts as the original pulley box. Check the Gilson Tractor Forum in Yahoo Groups, They would have that information.
+Ruben Lemus Hi Ruben, I have videos of how I made a push plow. If you are interested in a pulling plow, there are plenty that can be installed on this machine.
nice tractor, but it's not really tilling very well, it's just cutting the surface a bit. I never did have much confidence in those small power tillers. no substitute for a real farming implement. those small tractors are great for driveway snow and small dirt piles though....I have one.
This was a video in a series of several vids of work on this tractor... I was not attempting to till up this dry hard earth... I was simply trying to test out what work I had done and see if it would hold up. I have never thought this to be capable of what a full size tractor can accomplish... if you take it for what it is, it's a great machine.
@mrRhwalden It's my first mod to the tractor. When I brought it home, my wife said, I don't care what you do with it as look as you build something cool out of it. I was like cool! Ray Urban Madness
Hey Brother !!!
I am Watching and Enjoying my Friend !!!
Just been Runnin Runnin Runnin, got to make it when I can !!! LOL ...
I am digging your Caractacus Potts Method of Engineering of the Carrier Bearing !!!
For that matter all your Creative Engineering on your Work Horse of a Tractor !!!
The Tiller Assembly you have created is NEXT LEVEL, and the Lighting takes it Over the Top !!!
My Hats off to you Brother, Fine Job !!!
I really Enjoy your Videos !!!
Thank You so much for the Shout Out !!!
Great engine sound! Btw, mowing before tilling improves results even more.
Thank you. You are absolutely right, if I were tilling this soil for function I would have definately mowed first. For this video, I was just testing out the driveline in a vacant lot.
Well I did the carb all new and I thought I was getting good spark and I was but it was cutting out on me so the spark was off and on so come to find out I had to put in a new condenser and it's up and running great and I'm splitting wood with it I can believe how much power this old motor has for a 1970 model and being all cast iron and I had to reset the carb like you said to set it at and when I did it ran so much better with your settings so thank you vary much and keep putting out the videos I enjoy watching them thank you again have a great nite
That's great to hear. These old engines were built when the horsepower rating really meant something. For the future, don't get overwhelmed with small engines...they only need three things to run... fuel, spark and compression. Break it down into those three basic diagnostic parts and you can get any engine running again.
Man you have some awesome talent with a piece of pipe or metal or any think like that. Been watching your videos for about a year now so keep up the good work!!
Roman Quinn Thank you Roman, Appreciate it!
Great video
Thank you for the comment, I don't plan on painting it now. I am going to use it to till firebreaks, push snow and scrape paths. I don't want to be worried about pretty paint. I have several vids of this tractor from when I bought it at an estate sale to where it is today. Thanks for watching.
@whitehd01 Thanks for the comment. I don't watch much television and I love being outside. I really get satisfaction creating something out of nothing and this has been a great project so far. I don't think they are very common. They do pop up now and again, but are very expensive. I got very lucky finding this machine in it's condition. One owner before me...not cut up and modified and no real barnyard repairs....
I have a Gilson just like that and I am doing a complete rebuild frame the ground up. Instead of blue an black I'm doing mine dark red and white with black
That sounds like a great color combination.
@Mopardude I worry about the clearance too...I made a skid plate to protect the front pulley. Otherwise the shaft is where the stock one ran.... the angle on the universal and front pulley are lined up, and frame design limitations prevent me from tucking it up any farther. I guess they figured if you are using the tiller, it is for garden beds which are typically brush free and level. I, of course, will be using it to cut fire breaks around structures, so anything can happen. stay tuned.
@delmontcrusier I also think it's a pretty cool toy...uhhh I mean machine. Thanks for watching my videos.
@mrRhwalden Thanks for the comment.. The tiller is gonna work out just fine. Nice chrome stack on your craftsman.
For a workin tractor like that the low shaft would have me worried about ground clearance. But other wise its a pretty sweet setup you have going on now. You can accomplish many a task now!
@fritzhvac Hey Fritz, I totally was thinkng of you when the HVAC guys were servicing the system. That AC bearing was just the ticket to getting that PTO to work....and I have a second one as a spare.... the world is a good place. lol. Thanks for watching my videos.
@trbfshmn TRB, I had planned on welding a gusset on that bracket. I need it to be able to be removed when not in use. I noticed the flex before, but I always tend to overengineer stuff (cause I don't usually use things for their intended purpose) and wanted to see how it worked as is. Firming up the bracket may stop the belt squeak and it is a brand new belt and had the "new belt slime" on it. I will keep y'all informed. Thanks for watching. ybk
yourbeekeeper Where did you find the tiller blades? Trying to replace my dads for him
@jackcass13 It is a little oval... the old guy who owned it used to pull humself up into the seat with the wheel. He also used to slide out on the left fender (notice it sits very close to the wheel) I need to correct that if I plan on running chains in the snow/ice.
I bet you shined up those tines.
I really like how you create attachments for the tractor. I wonder how rare your tractor is? I havent seen one around here for sale on ebay or craigslist!
awesome tiller... Just got my first tractor.... Not as nice as that one tho.... Great Vid.....
That was awesome
Works good.
I have been trying to find the rod that lifts the tiller up and down. Would you be able to give me measurements of yours so I could get one made up?
I will do a short with the dimensions of that rod and so you can get a good look at how it's styled. I'll try to get that done this weekend.
@krupter Yep...the ground was really dry and compacted, but I figure it did so well on the rocky soil that it will obliterate anything in its path.
@RockinGuy1994 Thanks, I have to agree.
Could you please show the lift connection for the lift on the back.
This tractor is kept at a different location and I don't have immediate access to it. The lift connection is a simple rod that connects to the hydraulic ram on the belly of the tractor to a point on the tiller.
Works great.
@jasonmushersee thank you.
@Graveltrucking Thanks.
have u heard c.w. mccall song called "classified"? wow thats good.give it a listen
+larry garland I have not, but will check it out. Thanks for the tip.
***** Thank you I think the reason I can't make my lever lock is because the belt I bought might be slightly thicker ... do you have the belt part number? And where can i buy it? I was told belt size is 1/2 x 35 or 5/8 x 35 thanks for your videos!
Ruben Lemus Hi Ruben, I don't have the tractor handy today... it's raining outside and it's under a cover. If I remember right, it is a thicker than typical belt, so 5/8" sounds right. You have the tensioner pulley riding on the outside of the belt right? If your PTO lever is not locking maybe the new belt has more tension than the old belt coupled with wear in the lever system is not allowing it to stay locked. I had to work on my levewr system in order for the PTO lever to stay forward. Best of luck.
Useful information... thank you for answering my question...
you make great videos my grandfather had this tractor but it was 14 hp and 1972, anyways im glad you make these videos because my grandfather died and this is the closest thing i got and are you gonna paint the tractor
i have a 14 hp montgomery ward tractor got out of the bushes and is running fine it is standart shift no lifts but has atachements blade and plow and deck where can you buy parts for these tractors ?
HI Kennith, eBay is a good place to start for parts... specifically what are you looking for?
@yourbeekeeper another good source for that stuff is mcmaster carr or Motion Industries.
-Ray
Urban Madness
Hey. I have one of these! Could you show me the small piece of shaft that connects directly to the tiller. I have the main piece and belt. Need to fabricate the small one.
You are talking about the lift arm right? not the driveshaft? I have a playlist for this tractor on my main page and I show the lift arm. I keep this tractor on a different property that's a distance away, but I believe I have a second lift arm that I can get you better pictures/measurements if my video doesn't show it well enough.
@@yourbeekeeper ok. Just watched the video again. I saw what I need! There is a u joint section! I have the part you had to fabricate! You have the part I must fabricate! I can get it done now. Don't know how I overlooked it in your video. But hey thank you for the video and your time!
Here's one for ya I have the same motor that someone took out of a tractor like yours and installed that motor into a homemade log splitter and I'm haveing problems with the motor to stay running so the carb was all nasty so I took it off and cleaned it all out completely and then found a rebuild kit for that carb and rebuilt it and if fires right up but then dies the bowl is still full of gas but it won't keep pushing fuel for some reason it just runs out of gas I let it sit for a few minutes then hit the key and it starts right back up then dies again did you have any problems with your carb or fuel so I took it back apart and there isn't anything wrong that I can see so if you have had problems with your carb can you give me the settings on the carb and what do you think it might be ??? lol I need help if you can think of anything thanks for your input !!
Assuming your compression is good and there are no leaks in the intake gasket, I would suspect you have missed cleaning the idle jet or your idle screw is leaking air by either a worn screw or worn o-ring.. The screw setting are around 1 1/2~2 turns out...that will get you running and then you fine tune it from there.
Well that may just be the problem I have the jet set at 1 to 1 1/4 turn out so maybe I'm just not getting enough air fuel mix to even get it to run at all I did a compression check and at 125 or a little more then that and nothing is leaking around the head at all I left the compession gage in for over 30 minutes and it didn't drop at all so I'll reset the air screw and try that thank you I'll let you know what happens
I look forward to the update. Your points are adjusted correctly and you have strong spark right?
Prob would have been better at your buddy's house where you used the grader. Sounds like you're hitting a boat load of rocks here.
It felt like I was trying to till up concrete...lol. Things were too dry and packed. I was really just trying to stress the drive-line to see how it would hold up.
Hey Beekeeper, I have the same rig. same color, same patina except mine is not hydrostatic. Every time I engage the tiller and its in use for about 15 minutes the engine dies. After setting for maybe 30 minutes it starts right up...happens over and over. Any ideas?
Hey David, By the sound of it, I would suspect ignition components. Points, Condenser or coil....I would replace the coil first. Running the tiller puts a good load on the engine and causes it to run hotter. The fact that you have to wait for things to cool down before it starts up sounds like coil. Next time it runs to failure, I would test the spark and see if it's present. If you still have spark and it's not starting, It could be vapor locking the fuel, but that's not common in those engines. Another distant possibility is low compression...test it cold... maybe when it gets to temp the compression drops to the point it doesn't want to run... but a very low possibility. Best of luck with your tractor...I love mine so much I have two...lol. Let me know how it sorts out. Thanks for watching.
Replace the condenser, a failing one will cut spark when they heat up.
Hey I have a Tractor just like yours. Where can I find Part's for it?
What parts?
hello +yourbeekeeper is there a way you can let me know belt sizes? i have one just like it same tiller as well... i know the pto belt is 57x5/8 but dont know the size of the one that engages the tiller its a smaller one.
thanks!
Hi Ruben, I don't have the original pulley box for the pto. I fabricated a pulley system to drive the tiller and I am sure it's not the same size belts as the original pulley box. Check the Gilson Tractor Forum in Yahoo Groups, They would have that information.
Can I put a tiller on the manual gear shift version of this?
I don't see a reason why you couldn't add a tiller. The PTO is engine driven not power train driven.
@yourbeekeeper hello I have one just like it can we install a plower? if so what do we need to so we can install a plower
thanks!!
+Ruben Lemus Hi Ruben, I have videos of how I made a push plow. If you are interested in a pulling plow, there are plenty that can be installed on this machine.
Thank you yourbeekeeper I did not see them there... do you have one wirh a pulling plower?
@TheDieselStop I will make note of that... consider yourself first on the list. :-)
Im first in line to buy it if you sell it.
nice tractor, but it's not really tilling very well, it's just cutting the surface a bit. I never did have much confidence in those small power tillers. no substitute for a real farming implement. those small tractors are great for driveway snow and small dirt piles though....I have one.
This was a video in a series of several vids of work on this tractor... I was not attempting to till up this dry hard earth... I was simply trying to test out what work I had done and see if it would hold up. I have never thought this to be capable of what a full size tractor can accomplish... if you take it for what it is, it's a great machine.
Yes I have vary strong spark
Ok good, let me know how it works out.
@mrRhwalden It's my first mod to the tractor. When I brought it home, my wife said, I don't care what you do with it as look as you build something cool out of it.
I was like cool!
Ray
Urban Madness
Why mow grass when you can pull it out
YOU NEED TO USE A SINGLE TURNING PLOW FIRST FOR BEST RESULTS
Yep, I was just trying out the new drive line and not really looking to make deep soil tilling.
patina, not pahtina