How Does Jesus Fulfill the Law? | Don Carson
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2019
- This workshop on How Does Jesus Fulfill the Law with Don Carson was recorded at The Gospel Coalition’s 2018 Women’s Conference (TGCW18) in Indianapolis, Indiana.
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An excellent teaching on the moral, civil and ceremonial law. Thank you
And yet I still don't understand how to apply it today
Pastor-scholar par excellence!
In 50+ years of Bible study I had never noticed that in Matthew 5:18 the word "till" is used twice. It behooves all believers to be humble when discussing the scriptures. No human has a perfect understanding of the Word. We are dependent upon the Holy Spirit.
Christ told us how He would “fulfill”, by sifting it through a heart of LOVE! This is how “thou shall not murder”, becomes, “anyone who is angry with a brother will be subject to judgment”. I mean, imagine what our worship of the Father would look like if we didn’t have the Law to use as a guardian, but trusted in our own understanding of righteousness before Christ is able to fulfilled the Law in our heart (Galatians 3:23-25).
Without the righteousness of Christ we might be tempted to worship the Father in a way that seems right to a man (Proverbs 14:12), or the way the nations worship their gods (Deuteronomy 12:4) by holding onto the traditions of our forefathers (Mark 7:8). Traditions the Father says are worthless, like cutting trees out of the forest and adorning it with silver and gold and then fastening it so it doesn’t totter (Jeremiah 10:3-4). Or we could make a fatal mistake of giving honor to a false god like E-ster for the resurrection of Christ (Exodus 23:13).
But by using the Law as a tutor we’re able to discover the idols of our heart, the idols that keep us from finding true joy and peace. For example, I used to think there was joy in eating bacon, so when I read that pork is an abomination to the Father I was faced with a decision, was I going to believe my truth that bacon is good, or the Father’s truth that its an abomination. Now I have the free will to eat all the bacon I want, but I’m not free of the consequences that result from my actions (1 Corinthians 10:23) like hypertension and heart disease. Of my own free will I decided to stop eating bacon and it didn’t take long before I found “truth through understanding”, as the Father blessed me with improved; mental alertness, physical energy and a spiritual blessing to understand why He asked us to have discipline in what we consume, not just in what I eat, but what I watch and read, and what I listen to as well. This grew my faith in the Father which caused me to search out more of His truth.
Sure, it’s hard to go against the doctrines of men who teach that the Law has been done away with, but its only when we accept the terms of the covenant, our wedding vows, will Jesus remove the veil that covers our heart when Moses is read (2 Corinthians 3:15-16). For its only when this veil is removed are we able to see the truth that is able to set us free. This is what it means to walk in the Spirit and Truth (John 4:23). For more detail I invite you to watch our short video, "Walking in the Spirit and Truth. May you be blessed in your pursuit of truth.
What a great blessing to have brother Don Carson revealing God's word to us.
This is the best answer to this question I have ever heard. Thank you so much for taking your time to teach!
I love Don Carson. His impacts on my life are tremendous. I always love listening to him
As do I, taught me a lot about Christ,Culture and Evangelism!
I like how he is careful to keep His typology, not over-realized.
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Same!
mind blown moment! thanks pastor don..
I am so grateful to men of God, who like Don Carson are totally committed to bringing the true meaning of the bible to people like me, who has not otherwise have experienced such good and honest teaching from God's word.
While I don’t agree with his acceptance of the creative liberty taken by the Mark 7:19’s translators, I did find the overall presentation educational and insightful. I will admit that I did have to use the pause button a lot in order to validate what he was saying. Definitely worth the 2 hours. (2 hours includes the paused/validation time)
Brilliant, love his teaching! His exegesis and his knowledge, amazing.
Wonderful - I find this summary far more satisfying than the traditional views about our relationship to the Mosaic law which I have never found convincing.
If there is no Law; there for no sin!
@@alesanasua7495 Not sure where you are coming from with this short comment - but there was sin before the law because sin resulted in the judgement of God - death came into the world. Romans 2:12-13, 5:12ff - so there is no escape from the fact that we are all guilty of sin, if you believe God's word. Btw it was a year since I listened to this sermon so not sure if you are replying to a specific point!
@@williamwebb25 I don’t think that’s what they meant. Technically he is right though.
@@codyalexander3290 Respectfully, since all died since Adam because of sin (ie God judged them Romans 6:23), I feel this is quite clear in scripture and this argument is pointless! If there had been no sin, there would have been no death, law or no law.
@@williamwebb25 gotcha. I definitely see what you are saying. I think the alesana sue who commented was quoting scripture about how if there is no law then there is no way of knowing right from wrong.
A lie is a lie, even if everyone believes it. Truth is truth even if no one believes it.
He nailed the law to the Cross = Colossians 2:14
It was a transition process. The Torah began to be fulfilled at the cross, but was finally fulfilled in 70 AD at the destruction of the temple.
@@70AD-user45 the Holy Spirit was poured out on all at Pentecost
Jesus fulfills the law the same way the substance fulfills its shadow.
Yeshua became our sacrifice for your breaking torah ie law. Sin is not following the law. The law has to be on your heart to have true faith. ANYONE not teaching this is least in the kingdom.
@@6969smurfy are you saying that the martyrs in persecuted countries around the world (persecuted for their faith and witness) are going to be lesser in the kingdom than the one who does not eat pork?
@@leo11190 yes
Excellent.
I lift up everyone's prayers, wants and needs to You Jesus, please pour out blessings. May Your favor, grace and mercy be upon the world. In Jesus name come help us all. You know our needs and everything else about each of us. In Jesus name amen thank you Jesus praise God 🙏
Help people to be rooted and grounded in Your love. That they are living in the truth being taught by Jesus. 🙏
Jesus Christ is the son of God who died and rose three days later and loves all of you. He died for everyone and wants you with Him, to know Him and live for His glory. Come be saved eternally and spend time with Him to know Him. Be free, forgiven, healed, delivered, saved, baptized, whole and let Him show you how He is everything you need.🕊️
Ask anything in His name 🙏 amen hallelujah praise God thank you Jesus 🙏
Show God, live for His glory🕊️🔥💕🙏. We are to be an example of Jesus for the world to see Him and want to know Him and know Him more. 🕊️ 🙏
2 chronicles 7 14 says if My people humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways I will hear them from heaven and heal their land. 🔥
People need to turn from their wicked ways, Jesus paid for it. They need to repent, to be cleansed by His blood and live Holy because He's Holy and righteous because He's righteous. Our God said to stop sinning in many many scriptures and He paid for everyone to be cleansed of sin, to live how He said. He dwells in the temple (your body) and said not to defile the temple. He said to defile the temple is death. He's always serious about everything He said to do. He's just as serious about what He said not to do. We live in obedience to His law, every word if it! 💕
Deuteronomy 28 there are blessings for obedience and curses for disobedience. The whole chapter, and verse 46 is one example of generational curses. These go into the following generations, the 3 and 4th. Our children pay the price for our sin. Stop sinning you are sending consequences to your loved ones. By God's law you are. If you don't believe me ask Him, in Jesus name may you see and know the truth in it's fullness. 🕊️🙏🔥💕
He's worthy of everything He said and paid for, so I implore you to do as God said. Jesus said If you love me you will obey me. Praise God thank you Jesus in Jesus name 💕 🕊️ 🙏🔥
There seems to be many varying opinions on this lecture. The Bible is complicated; however, I always refer to the book of James(believed to have been written by Jesus' half brother). *I have never heard it preached that you can go on with living any way you want after praying "the sinner's prayer." James is full of instructions on how we are to live especially in the first 2 chapters. My favorite is James 2:19-20 "You believe that there is one God; you do well:
the devils also believe; and tremble." But wilt thou know, oh vain man, that faith without works is dead?" We are to be transformed so that we try to follow Jesus' example. That is it---plain and simple.
Its crazy because as i was sitting and thinking about this question, what does it mean that Jesus fulfilled the law?, this understanding came to mind😮. I was blown away. So i came here search it and even more blown away.
WHAT GOS INTO A MAN DOSE NOT DEFINE THAT MAN BUT WHAT COMES OUT OF THAT MAN IS WHAT DEFINES HIM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Defile…
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AND WE SHOULD NOT COMMIT SIN JUST BECOUSE WE OUR ABOVE IT BUT MORE TO FOLLOW THE LAW AND TURN THE PEOPLE BACK TO CHRIST JESUS
Until the end of the old covenant age. 70AD
AND HE WHO TROUBLES THE FATHER LESS AND MOTHERLESS !!! IF HE CRIES OUT TO ME !! I WILL HEAR HIS CRY !!! I AM NOT UNDER YOUR LAWS !!!!!!!!!!!
What?
SENSACIONAL
Matthew 5:19
“Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”
You keep the Passover?
John 14:15
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments
Nomos vs entolae. Nomos refers to the law and entolae refers to commands. Check how John uses the two Greek words in scripture
..... Mercy.
21:45 it's not lined up to the law of Moses, but it's definitely lined up to the law of God. That's either an intentional sleight of hand or him miss-speaking.
44:42 Jesus is indeed the temple.
51:42 Bingo. Absolute bingo.
18/12/2020 sat in Evia on the bench of that round building on the sea front !!!
Tonight I was sat by the sea and I saw another sign 5 stars I saw maybe it was 7 but this I say cos lord said 7 maybe this is something else ,,
5 stars in the shape of one star is what I have written !!! I tried to record it but my phone would not pick it up signed Christos Georgiou
Romans 3;31
25/01/2022 MARK 6 Then He went out from there and came to his own country, and his disciples followed Him, And when the Sabbath had come,
He began to teach in the synagogue, and many hearing Him were astonished saying,"Where did this Man get these things?
And what wisdom is this which is given to Him that such mighty works are performed by His hands!
is this not the carpenter, the Son of Mary and brother of james,joses,judas and simon?
And are not His sisters not here with Us!!!!!
volume of sound too low or too loud a few times during sermon, ive noticed this before with TGC videos......good sermon though
The "end of the Age" is the end of the Old Testament Age.
I'd appreciate feedback from anyone after considering something while listening to DA Carson.
Lets just say that the law was still here today. Paul uses marriage and remarriage as an illustration in Romans 7 1:4. In verse 4 he apparently likens believers to a wife and the law to a husband saying, "ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another".
So then, even if the law were still around, we have "died" through the body of Christ, to be joined to him. But we're not without a law entirely because in chapter 8, Paul says "The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death." So now we are under the law of the Spirit.
So we are no longer under any part of the old law. But there are still moral laws within the new one.
An example of to understand this idea would be like if someone moved from China to the US. China has laws against stealing and killing. But just because the US does too, doesn't mean that the authority of China carried over with the person.
Am I thinking about this correctly?
The prophecy of the Messiah is in the law, so Jesus says he is the Messiah, and he fulfilled Gods law by faith. When the Temple was destroyed heaven and earth passed away.
Please read Malachi 4. God bless you all =)
I read Malachi 4; based on the author, and the context, who is the intended audience? I'm curious if you think this was intended for Israel and gentiles. Blessings!
@@jasongillis1336 Maybe I'm wrong but I thought Paul says Gentiles are being grafted into the House of Israel.
@@jasongillis1336 Blessings to you too! =)
Is the man speaking Dr D.A. Carson?
yup
sir its not about prophecy about Jesus but COMMANDMENTS please read vs 19
When the book of Hebrews says I will put a new covenant in the heart of Judah and Israel, not like the first one. what does this mean to you?
Laws of stones need to be laws on Your heart ! If you love him obey his commands.
@@6969smurfy So did Yeshua come to do away with the Law Elohim gave His people?
@@luiscajigas5567 he expounded them for true faith means you want to do them with open eyes and circumcised heart.
AND I DID NOT COME FOR THE RITIOUSE BUT FOR THE UNRIOUTIOUS
What point is Elohim is making when using the word sheqets(abomination)?
Sinners breakers of law ie gods word.
Do not think that I have come to abolish (destroy) the Law or the Prophets”
That means he did not come to treat the law as rubbish and throw it away.
”I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.”
His mission were to fulfill the prophecies, but his mission was also to fulfill the righteousness of the law (Matt 3v15), without a single sin. Because there was promises given from God to Abram including with a blessing that would come from Abram. But Abram were to command his people to live in the way of the Lord and do justice and righteousness (the law) for this to be able to happen (Gen 18 v19).
”For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away”
Here he sets a deadline where not a dot should pass away from law.
But it is linked to him having to fulfill the law.
”not an iota not a dot, will pass from the Law”
As it says, not a single dot or a single letter shall pass away from (specifically) the law…until what?
”until all is accomplished.”
Here he undoubtedly sets another ultimatum where not a dot should pass away (from the law). And that ultimatum is "until" everything he (intends) to fulfill has been carried out. And he is obviously referring to what he was talking about, that is, that he would fulfill things (concerning) him in the law and prophets.
So the question is, has he fulfilled the law and the prophets in the way as he indicated he would? According to Jesus' own words to the guys on Emmaus road, yes, he fulfilled (what he came) to do. So, the heaven and earth will now eventyally in time pass away.
Luke 24 “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.” Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures…”
Believe that Jesus is the Christ
The Son of God
And that believing
You may have life in His name.
Not what it says
Law, Torah, Instructions from YHWH.
4137. πληρόω plērŏō, play-rŏ´-o; from 4134; to make replete, i.e. (lit.) to cram (a net), level up (a hollow), or (fig.) to furnish (or imbue, diffuse, influence), satisfy, execute (an office), finish (a period or task), verify (or coincide with a prediction), etc.:-accomplish, × after, (be) complete, end, expire, fill (up), fulfil, (be, make) full (come), fully preach, perfect, supply.
21st December 2020 look up the bethlehem star !!!!!!!!!!!
Why would Jesus not keep the commandments?
Y’all might benefit from learning from a channel here on the tubes…”kingdom in context”.
What is the new covenant?
The new covenant is the Holy Spirit instead of the Temple polity of sin and sacrifice, so those who are properly taught and then receive the Holy Spirit, are in the new covenant based on their profession of faith to keep God's law of Abraham.
I have a Ytube video series called 'Myths in so-called Christianity', 25 videos so far based onbthe new covenant.
Christ was the end of the law "for righteousness" to every one that believes on Him. Jews were under the law. Gentiles were never under the law, and Jewish/Gentile Christians are not under the law now. Christians are also not under informal Church rules/laws either. Don't buy it. The only criteria for whether Christians enter into Heaven is their belief in Jesus. The one and only requirement. We can't work our way to Heaven. Grace and Works do not mix. Christ did it all for us. He gave us HIS Righteousness. You, Believe. We have everything we need to get there, thanks be to Him.
(Rom 10:4 KJV) For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
The New Testament doesn't start until after Christ's death on the cross. It doesn't start on the first page of the Book of Matthew. So everything up until His death is the Old Testament. See here:
Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
Heb 9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
The Old Testament Gospels are to show us, and lead us into realization that we can't possibly save ourselves and need a Savior. On the sermon on the mount He had us chopping off our hand and plucking out our eye and suggesting these were things we need to do. Really? Not really. He took the law and increased it's requirements to an unattainable goal. No one could live up to that, except Him. Instead, we were supposed to see that we were all guilty and sinners in need of a Savior. See here:
Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
And Remember these words from our Lord and Savior...
Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Mat 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
God Bless All!
“Well said.” - Apostle Paul
WRONG. So bad so bad...
@@6969smurfy How do you read it, Dan?
@@billhesford6098 well Bill, i read it with open eyes and ears, soften heart by messiahs teachings. The very first sentence in this guys comments shows his complete and utter disobedience to Gods word. See if you believe in the one God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob/name change to Israel. Then there is NO gentil label! You are grafted in and love to produce Good fruit. So if you believe in lawlessness/sin than you don't know sin. So simple for the richous to understand this simple concept. If you don't believe lawlessness is sin than you are doing the saint work for him/it...
@@6969smurfy Did you listen to ALL of it? This guy does not believe in lawlessness.
Funny how God chose the simple things to confound the wise. 45 years of study and he hasn't seen Acts 21:20-26? Paul in Jerusalem for Pentecost, comes to James and James gives Paul a prescription for silencing the people accusing Paul of not keeping The Law, and Paul DOES what James asks of him.
Or Acts 16:3, Paul circumcised Timothy. Or Acts 28:17 Paul emphatically states he's done nothing against the customs of the Fathers. Or that Stephen was falsely accused of teaching against the Torah and the Temple Acts 6:10-14. Or that Peter a decade after the resurrection of Jesus was still keeping the Dietary Laws Acts 10:14. Or that Ananias a "devout man according to the Law and respected among the Jews" was called by God himself and sent to pray for Paul Acts 22:12, 9:10-11.
Things to consider.
Dear brother, my opinion about this is that, in the first century, right after Jesus rose to the skies, there was a difference being developed between Christian Jew and Christian Gentile. Note that christianity was a branch, a sect of Judaism, so their differences would be clearer after acts 15. Paul would never say to a *Christian Jew* that keeping the law is wrong (it would be wrong if you make it a way for salvation) because he was tolerant to this. Its kinda like what he says in 1Co 7:18 “If any man who is a Christian has had circumcision, let him keep so; and if any man who is a Christian has not had circumcision, let him make no change.” Note that Paul was a Jew, he used to be Pharisee so he had some fame to preserve to the Jews. Note too that in acts 21 he says to the Gentiles to maintain the rules they were taught in acts 15. And note again that Paul is always taking care of the churches of the Orient, which were full of gentiles, against judaizers. Im sorry for my poor English. Peace
Scripture was fulfilled..which was about him...the sacrifices are done away with but .these days his 7th day sabbath as well as the feast days are still to be kept,,as well as all the laws .Memorial to him all generations Exo_3:15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations. Exo_12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever. .which are now placed in your heart..see Hebrew 4 and 8..seek him and you will find him to know the truth..
Exactly. Also the sacrifices aren’t done away with they will be brought back. However isreal is captive in Babylon right now.
@@codyalexander3290 You could be right about the sacrifice returning..not sure but we will be keeping the fest with the lord after his return ,Zec_14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Why are all DA Carson videos at least an hour a long?
CAN SOMEONE SAY WHETHER THIS MAKES SENSE, SINCE THE SPEAKER REFERENCED AND SPOKE ON ROMANS 14:5?
Romans 14:5
“One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.”
FROM BARNES NOTES ON THE BIBLE (BIBLE HUB COMMENTARY)
"Every day alike - The word "alike" is not in the original, and it may convey an idea which the apostle did not design. The passage means that he regards "every day" as consecrated to the Lord; Romans 14:6. The question has been agitated WHETHER THE APOSTLE INTENDS IN THIS TO INCLUDE THE CHRISTIAN SABBATH. Does he mean to say that it is a MATTER OF INDIFFERENCE WHETHER THIS DAY IS OBSERVED, or whether it be devoted to ordinary business or amusements? This is a VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION in regard to the LORD'S DAY. That the apostle did not mean to say that it was a matter of indifference whether it should be kept as holy, or devoted to business or amusement, is plain from the following considerations."
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY CHURCH? IS THE LORD'S DAY SUNDAY APPLICABLE IN ROMANS 14:5, OR NOT?
if one would read the whole chapter of Roman 14 one would see that chapter is about eating and not about the 7th day sabbath ..for it remains Heb 4:8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
@@johndias3993 amen brother John Dias, there is an eternal everlasting rest in Messiah Jesus, and there is an eternal everlasting Seventh Day Sabbath rest in Messiah Jesus.
The LORD GOD commanded His people, based upon both the historical and Bible narrative, the HE is our Creator God, that HE is Lord of His Sabbath Day, and that HE gave it as a blessed, sanctified day for HIS called out people from the first Seventh Day to now, and yes into the New Heaven and New Earth, according to Isaiah the prophet of God.
Isaiah 66:22
“For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.”
Isaiah 66:23
“And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.”
Isaiah 66:24
“And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.”
These holy, inspired Scriptures prove and show DIVINE AUTHORITY over what has ever been, and shall ever be HIS HOLY DAY.
I pray the Lord bless you as you witness to the Truth as it is in Messiah Jesus Brother John Dias.
The word fulfill doesn’t mean abolish. If this were so Jesus would have been found twisted in His own words “do not think I have come to abolish the law or the prophets, I have not come to abolish but to fulfill” Matthew 5:17. How does one think Jesus is saying don’t think I’ve come to abolish, I haven’t come to abolish, I’ve come to abolish? That is CONFUSION and God isn’t the author of THAT. Jesus didn’t abolish or do away with the 10 commandments. If that is so, we can now murder, have abortions, commit suicide etc. If suicide isn’t a sin and you can still be saved committing self murder, why isn’t every christian professing faith then offing themself? Because they know they will be LOST, which means the law is written in the heart.
AMEN! Christ told us how He would “fulfill”, by sifting it through a heart of LOVE! This is how “thou shall not murder”, becomes, “anyone who is angry with a brother will be subject to judgment”. I mean, imagine what our worship of the Father would look like if we didn’t have the Law to use as a guardian, but trusted in our own understanding of righteousness before Christ is able to fulfilled the Law in our heart (Galatians 3:23-25).
Without the righteousness of Christ we might be tempted to worship the Father in a way that seems right to a man (Proverbs 14:12), or the way the nations worship their gods (Deuteronomy 12:4) by holding onto the traditions of our forefathers (Mark 7:8). Traditions the Father says are worthless, like cutting trees out of the forest and adorning it with silver and gold and then fastening it so it doesn’t totter (Jeremiah 10:3-4). Or we could make a fatal mistake of giving honor to a false god like E-ster for the resurrection of Christ (Exodus 23:13).
But by using the Law as a tutor we’re able to discover the idols of our heart, the idols that keep us from finding true joy and peace. For example, I used to think there was joy in eating bacon, so when I read that pork is an abomination to the Father I was faced with a decision, was I going to believe my truth that bacon is good, or the Father’s truth that its an abomination. Now I have the free will to eat all the bacon I want, but I’m not free of the consequences that result from my actions (1 Corinthians 10:23) like hypertension and heart disease. Of my own free will I decided to stop eating bacon and it didn’t take long before I found “truth through understanding”, as the Father blessed me with improved; mental alertness, physical energy and a spiritual blessing to understand why He asked us to have discipline in what we consume, not just in what I eat, but what I watch and read, and what I listen to as well. This grew my faith in the Father which caused me to search out more of His truth.
Sure, it’s hard to go against the doctrines of men who teach that the Law has been done away with, but its only when we accept the terms of the covenant, our wedding vows, will Jesus remove the veil that covers our heart when Moses is read (2 Corinthians 3:15-16). For its only when this veil is removed are we able to see the truth that is able to set us free. This is what it means to walk in the Spirit and Truth (John 4:23). For more detail I invite you to watch our short video, "Walking in the Spirit and Truth. May you be blessed in your pursuit of truth.
SO NO ONE KNEW THESE THING BEFORE NO
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Are Christians obliged to apply and obey the ot laws pertaining to restitution? Many say, No; Many say. Yes. What say ye?
The restitution of Israel has already been fulfilled. The Church is Israel and Israel is the Church. The Church is the fulfillment of the Old Covenant Torah and prophets. The Old Covenant age were types and shadows of the spiritual reality of things to come in the New Covenant age of the Church. The Torah and prophets were fulfilled over a 40 year time period, starting with Christ's ministry in 30 AD, to the destruction of the Old Covenant temple in 70 AD, which was the historical end of the Old Covenant age. No temple, means there's no more Old Covenant law. That's just a historical fact.
@@70AD-user45 you didn't even understand my very simple question, did you?
@@garyk3789
You asked if the Torah should be restored after the 613 laws have been surrendered. I answered the question. Christians became "adopted" into the covenant with the Hebrews, but the fulfillment of the Old Covenant age of Torah became more spiritual in the New Covenant age, so it's not a simple yes or no answer.
08/10/2020 it's now 16;43pm well I'm sure this is a start to many more writings!! so today I walked into the park like always with max for his walk!
And in general weather was cloudy as it had been raining not long before so anyway I let max of the lead and i just start talking with God asking him to come out and say hello even for 2 mins talking to God and looking at the sun
while I did it!!! with in seconds the clouds went away ! and a new formation started!!!
I wish I had a camera phone but I don't for other reasons! anyway the sky cleared like watching a tv!! the clouds, well they turned to like a stair case to heaven literally!!
but what also happened at the bottom of this picture of the stairway!
A big black cloud in the shape of like a giant in Armor with a great sized hammer holding in front of him!! but i said to God lets not even look at him and as fast as he came he left in the same way ,, in Gods Name Christos Georgiou
Why did God give us the instruction? Is it for him or for us?
I’ll choose to keep the commandments rather than listen to men who seek to affirm the doctrine of men.
REVELATION 13;15 14 THE LAMB AND THE 144,00
THEN I LOOKED,and behold a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His Fathers name written on their foreheads.
And I heard a voice from heaven, like the voice of many waters, and like the voice of loud thunder.And I heard the sound of harpists playing their harps.
They sang as it were a new song before the throne, before the four living creatures,And the elders:
and no one could learn that song except the hundread and forty-four thousand who were redeemed from the earth.
These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes.These were redeemed from among men, being firstfruits to God
and to the lamb. And in their mouth was found no deceit, for they are without fault before the throne of God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALSO THE PROCLAMATIONS OF THREE ANGEL !!!!!
How could Jesus be like Moses , to say the antitheses makes more sense .
The greatest textual critic that I know of said, its not the local text that determines the meaning of a subject in the sacred scriptures, but the immediate context, and you do not need to be an academic to read and study the context of Matthew chapter 5v17-20, do not think that I have come to destroy the Law or the prophets, but to fulfill them, for truthfully I say unto you that until heaven and earth passes away, not one jot or tittle will pass away until it is all fulfilled, therefore whoever breaks one of the least commandments and teaches others to break them will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven, and whoever does and teaches one of the least commandments will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven, for I say unto you that unless your righteousness exceeds the scribes and Pharisees you will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven,
Later He amends the Law, and even amplifies the Law, to teach that heart sins are as bad as hand sins, but after sixty years as a born-again Christian I no no longer resist the revelation of the Eternal Word manifest in Flesh, but surrender to every word He teaches
Jesus fulfilled the law, by loving his neighbor... all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: love your neighbor. Galatians 5:14
Jesus is the fulfilling of the law... for love is the fulfilling of the law Romans 13:10
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believe in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16
Paul says: all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: love your neighbor. Galatians 5:14
Jesus Christ, fulfilled the law, by keeping the following commandments of God;
LOVE GOD
LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR
LOVE ONE ANOTHER
LOVE YOUR ENEMIES
If we love our neighbor, we love God..if we don't love our neighbor, we don't love God...
If you don't love your neighbor, whom you see, how can you love God, whom you don't see?
1 corinthians 13, if you don't have love, you don't have nothing: even if you gave all your goods to the poor...
You can inherit eternal life by: love your neighbor. Luke 10:25-37. Luke 18:18-22
You can inherit the kingdom of God by: love your neighbor/brethren. Matthew 25:31-46
You don't inherit eternal life by: keeping the law of the old covenant...
Jesus loved his neighbor: when he was thirsty.. when he was hungry.. when he was sick or in jail.. when he was naked.. when he was a stranger...
If copeland, Joel, meyers, and many more rich ministers were to ask Jesus what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
Jesus would say to them: go, and sell everything you have, and give it to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven, and come, follow me...
The true ministers of God have treasures in heaven...in Jesus name: may the love of God be in you.
A question to your first paragraph,
so the lady at the well told "now go and sin no more," how does that fit in the law is fulfilled statement. Wouldn't he have said I love you, go and dobwhaybyou want and it will be alright? I don't understand?.
Can someone answer me on this.
In Romans 3:21 in my KJV of the bible DO NOT say "apart from the law".
It says.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Am I off here or is my bible wrong?
My KJV says the scripture exactly as you typed it that yours says 🙏 🕊️💕🔥
@@SherriP thanks much.
Look at the very last word of the Old Covenant or Testament. Do you think God made a mistake or did He do this on purpose?
Are you holding God accountable to his own laws, if so consider,
He fulfilled them by eating on Sabbath. Kaws were from him, he wasn't was from the laws.
You want proof that the 10 Commandments were fulfilled and set aside by Christ's death? Romans 7:6-7 says that we are delivered/released from the law through being crucified with Christ. But Paul includes the 10th Commandment ("thou shalt not covet") as belonging to the law that we have been delivered/released from. What the...? If we are delivered/released from one of the Old Covenant 10 Commandments, we are delivered/released from all of them. But are we without law? No! We have New Covenant Law now written on our hearts and minds.
God preserved his moral law by writing it into the New Covenant contract. And from a legal perspective, the Old Covenant (including its version of the 10 Commandments) have been set aside (archived).
Peter NEVER broke dietary laws. That whole passage had nothing to do with food. You took it completely out of context.
Can we debate this issue?
jesus is the creator he neve change aniting look Jhon 1: the moral low bever chage because is an will be kipt in heaven forever meens. Bever ends look abut the Sabbath will be kipt in heaven Isaiah 66: 23 olso read James 2: 10 or we kipt all or noting
Never change God. Never change don't be full the new low was writing in our hearts
OR YOU ALL TURNED A BLIND EYE TO THE EVIL HAPPENING
The fall of Adam and Eve was a sexual sin. The lust of the eye. They were created in the image of GOD which is Agape LOVE and they fell into Phileo love or Eros love. Adam carried forth the seed of sin until Jesus (second Adam) came to fulfill the LAW and the fulfilling of the LAW is Agape LOVE. GODS IMAGE.
Remember in Matthew 7 where Jesus tells the MANY (Christian’s) “depart from me ye that work iniquity”. Iniquity means LAWLESSNESS. Many are called and the few are CHOSEN. The many never STRIVED to enter the straight gate. Strive means “ to contend with adversaries, fight”. Christ commands the FEW to obey him. Most Christians believe this is “works” and then argue that salvation is a free gift and won’t do what Jesus commands..
The typical sinners prayer is nothing more than “CONVERSION” which means “to turn to”, to twist about”. Regeneration is salvation which means “to go back to the original”. The original what? The original IMAGE of GOD which is Agape LOVE.
So, sexual sin is the fall. Remember the Ten Commandments? Thou “shalt not commit adultery, thou shalt not fornicate, thou shalt not murder, thou shalt not covet”. See, everyone of these sins are a result of lust which was the fall. Cain murdered Abel was a direct result of the sexual sin of Adam and Eve. They went from AGAPE LOVE to Phileo love or Eros love. The LAW is LOVE. The true IMAGE of GOD.
God commanded them the multiply
No scripture can found to to validate the assumption that Elohim Pesach has to do with sin., that just an opinion being made.
No one back then would have thought any believer ignorant enough to celebrate winter solstus and ester fertility god day... but guess what.... so yeshuah being the passover lamb means nothing. You people are truly truly ignorant to the WORD!
@@6969smurfy Are you directing this to me, if you are please clarify, Are you saying that the Passover that happen in Egypt is that same as Messiah Passover?, If you show me in scripture where it states they are both the same?
@@luiscajigas5567 wow. So you think there are different passovers? No it would not do amy good for a non believe in the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob. I think you should start at pape 1 and keep going. ..
@@6969smurfy I don't know if is sarcasm or just ignorance on your part. All I got from you is Wow, Before you use Wow again show me in scripture not your opinion where they are both the same?
@@luiscajigas5567 I'm not supposed to cast pearls to you, I'm being told.... I thought you a fellow believer but I'm thinking your not, so sorry to have condemned you for not knowing the word. Please forgive me.
YOU EVER HEARD OF THE RAPTURE
If your not teaching law ie torah you be least in the kingdom. WAKE UP, OPEN eyes and ears to faith in him for his laws are good 👍
I'm sorry but you can't get the true word if you don't understand what sin is, breaking torah. Peter said don't get miss led by Paul's letters. Christ law is his father law written on your heart not of stone. I pray people come this realization.
Ps. Thank you for not turning off comments like most lawless teachers do.
@@6969smurfy
Wrong, you misquoted Jesus in Matthew 5: Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:19
So, Do you want to be called great in the kingdom just as the disciples wanted to be greater than the other disciples? Then, you hopefully have not broken one of the least of "these" commands. Have your eyes ever caused you to sin? Yes? You have not plucked them out? Have you already ordered your flight to Jerusalem for the upcoming feast of tabernacles? How was this year's Passover in Jerusalem? You have not been to Jerusalem three Times a year? Do you wear clothes made from different fabrics?
Propably Does not Look good with respect to be once called a great one in the kingdom. Selfrighteousness and much less the law of Moses wont get you there. It is by grace alone.
Torahism is heresy. I have fallen for its lies as well and made the same experience Paul witnessed in Romans concerning his coveting Problem. Under the law, sin increases. You live by the flesh without Victory in condemnation. Grace made you free from the law of sin and death and gives Victory.
Maybe the Book "Torahism" by RL Solberg is interesting for you.
Anyway, I know this issue wont be solved by debating. It is a heart and flesh issue.
God bless you, Dan
@@schnittteisen blessing to you,
I didn't think I quoted mathew in this comment, but mathew 5 is a good start, then look at 7. Faith= love of God. Means you take the laws of sin/stone and write them on your fleshy heart. How does one love god, you obey his word ie torah. Yahshua not only Taught the law he Made it more ie pluck the eye. See there is no way around this. If you have basic understanding of your God. is the God of Abraham Isaac & jacob/isreal your god? If so as gentile you are grafted into isreal. Basic understandings of herbrew, isreal is a location yes, but is also a people. Yes I do the biblical holidays. I done away of the man made church days of the pegan God ester & the pegan winter sulstus. And the blessing to my family, and fellowships are amazing. Praise YAH.
@@6969smurfyYou are right, Ithink o was referring to a Different comment of yours. Nonetheless, neither you nor anyone Else is Keeping any feasts today, noone is able to tithe anything and you are betraying yourself by thinking otherwise.
By the way "law and prophets" is an idiom referring to the whole of OT scripture and "law" also once refers to the Psalms and "law" ie "torah" does not Mean exklusively the law given through Moses.
But anyway, it is a heart issue. Still recommend the book if you are interested in testing everything
That in no way means the law is finished Deuteronomy 13 if Jesus ended the law he is a false prophet The Torah is forever as is the Sabbath. Fufill fill full he fully preached check Mattew 3:15 Revelation 12:17 14:12 22:17
AMEN! Christ told us how He would “fulfill”, by sifting it through a heart of LOVE! This is how “thou shall not murder”, becomes, “anyone who is angry with a brother will be subject to judgment”. I mean, imagine what our worship of the Father would look like if we didn’t have the Law to use as a guardian, but trusted in our own understanding of righteousness before Christ is able to fulfilled the Law in our heart (Galatians 3:23-25).
Without the righteousness of Christ we might be tempted to worship the Father in a way that seems right to a man (Proverbs 14:12), or the way the nations worship their gods (Deuteronomy 12:4) by holding onto the traditions of our forefathers (Mark 7:8). Traditions the Father says are worthless, like cutting trees out of the forest and adorning it with silver and gold and then fastening it so it doesn’t totter (Jeremiah 10:3-4). Or we could make a fatal mistake of giving honor to a false god like E-ster for the resurrection of Christ (Exodus 23:13).
But by using the Law as a tutor we’re able to discover the idols of our heart, the idols that keep us from finding true joy and peace. For example, I used to think there was joy in eating bacon, so when I read that pork is an abomination to the Father I was faced with a decision, was I going to believe my truth that bacon is good, or the Father’s truth that its an abomination. Now I have the free will to eat all the bacon I want, but I’m not free of the consequences that result from my actions (1 Corinthians 10:23) like hypertension and heart disease. Of my own free will I decided to stop eating bacon and it didn’t take long before I found “truth through understanding”, as the Father blessed me with improved; mental alertness, physical energy and a spiritual blessing to understand why He asked us to have discipline in what we consume, not just in what I eat, but what I watch and read, and what I listen to as well. This grew my faith in the Father which caused me to search out more of His truth.
Sure, it’s hard to go against the doctrines of men who teach that the Law has been done away with, but its only when we accept the terms of the covenant, our wedding vows, will Jesus remove the veil that covers our heart when Moses is read (2 Corinthians 3:15-16). For its only when this veil is removed are we able to see the truth that is able to set us free. This is what it means to walk in the Spirit and Truth (John 4:23). For more detail I invite you to watch our short video, "Walking in the Spirit and Truth. May you be blessed in your pursuit of truth.
The law of Christ? There is no such thing. Jesus said that He does not say anything by himself, only what God says to Him!
The law of Christ is all over the New Covenant
Don, you do have the right to “excise your right to be wrong” but that most surely doesn’t make your wrong right. Maybe you should have spent more time on the rest of the verses to get the context correct. It is quite easy to discern between the moral Law and the other by just implementing the simple translation principles of scripture, if the word “Law” is written in upper case ‘L’ it refers to the moral Law and if in a lower case “l” is used it refers to the other. In most translations it is written as Law except for the KJV where it is written as “law”.
Matt 5 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
Don you are applying eisegeses to this text and read tings into it I does not say and by merely keeping the context it becomes clear what the intention and meaning of the verse is.
By applying your suggested principle that the term Law can also be used as an indicator of prophetic events that must be fulfilled it must surely suggest that the Law will be applicable till the millennium reign where the Sabbath rest will be fulfilled, and that we are to keep the Sabbath as well as the rest of the Ten Commandments up and until then. That also means that the moral Law will be applicable until Jesus returns.
Verses 19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
Don after reading verses 19 - 20 I will leave it in your hands to determine or judge your position for yourself in the coming Kingdom.
Ps. The Bible is quite clear on what was done away with at the cross:
In Col 2 14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Eph 2 15 by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, …
It is the handwriting of ordinances (ceremonial laws) and civil laws that was nailed to the cross and not Gods Law which is a reflection of His perfect will and Character.
Dear brother, may the peace of Christ be with you always. I think that in colossians 2:14, the word in greek for “handwriting” is χειρογραφον (cheirographon) which means something like a “script of debts”, kinda like when you buy something and let it to be paid after. In this case, the seller writes this “cheirographon”. Christ paid our debts so the cheirographon was removed. It is not related to any kind of law. Have a nice day
Why would a self proclaimed Christ follower NOT want to learn from this but instead follow weak teaching. Dive in as deep as you can my brothers, until you are inhaling and exhaling the Word.
Ahh because if you was a true chris follower then you would take his fathers laws apon your soften heart and want to please him. Not be least in the kingdom. I'm soo glad I came to the word free from man and church bias. It so clear that laws are blessing!
He is not prepared to eat unkosher food that vision was about the Gentiles. Declaring all foods clean is in italics so it was added please dont be deceiving
21st December 2020 look up the bethlehem star !!!!!!!!!!!
REVELATION 13;15 14 THE LAMB AND THE 144,00
THEN I LOOKED,and behold a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His Fathers name written on their foreheads.
And I heard a voice from heaven, like the voice of many waters, and like the voice of loud thunder.And I heard the sound of harpists playing their harps.
They sang as it were a new song before the throne, before the four living creatures,And the elders:
and no one could learn that song except the hundread and forty-four thousand who were redeemed from the earth.
These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes.These were redeemed from among men, being firstfruits to God
and to the lamb. And in their mouth was found no deceit, for they are without fault before the throne of God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALSO THE PROCLAMATIONS OF THREE ANGEL !!!!!