Happy to say that apparently I'm already doing everything right. Trekking poles are good on terrain up to a certain difficulty, imo. You need to know when to put them away and use your hands to balance and grab hold of things..
There's some terrain I'll bring one so I have an outrigger in the downhill hand, and a dexterous hand for grabbing uphill. Also a good choice when you have a fair few miles in before it gets technical and want to shave the weight and pack volume. Also depends if you're camping and want/need two to setup, but finding one tree is far easier than finding two perfectly spaced for your shelter, and one immovable object is infinitely better than none for cranking on tension.
@@csn583 Good points! Will give that a go sometime. That being said, I use quite beefy trekking poles (ski touring poles actually). But I really rely on them when going downhill, good way to get a decent upper body workout in. For long distance hikes with less elevation I would probably consider getting something lighter.
Gotta say, very classy how you did the advertisement. You added a timestamp and even a little duration bar at the bottom. Also, great tips! Much respect!
Agree 100% with the tips you shared. Many of them are common sense but my wife needed to hear it from a person like yourself, not just from me. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Oscar, i totally agree with all your explanations but one. In downhill movement, we teach the hikers to go out of the strap, so in case the are falling, the poles can be thrown away from the hiker to prevent injuries. We had cases of poles breaking and then piercing the hikers thighs, so we started to teach this technik with major succsess.
But the point of the trekking pole is to prevent falling and slow your descent in the event of a fall, isn't it? Why would you get rid of the safety device meant to help you? That's like dangling from a cliff and cutting the cord because there's a chance you could hang yourself.
Yes, the poles are used to prevent falling, but fact is hikers fall even using poles. In this sepcific szenario, it's safer to have the option to throw them aside and not falling on them !! Imagine you're hiking downwards and one of your poles breaks (and this will be in the second you put weight on it) the chance of alling is very very high! Ask yourself if you would prefer falling on them or would it be less dangerous to have them out of the way? Fact is that people pierced their thighs with a broken pole !! But in the end, the choice is yours.
@@CDL_GamingHe didn’t say “don’t use the trekking poles going downhill”. He said “don’t put your hand through the strap going downhill”. You can still use them for support and balance without the strap. If you fall anyway, you can just let go and do whatever you need to do to break your fall and prevent injury. If the poles are attached to your wrists, at the least they get in your way, at the worst they can cause injury.
If you have to throw the poles away you are wrapping the straps wrong. With the proper under and up method the pole drops away when you open your hand, but hangs by the strap and do not get lost.
Thanks for the advice! At 67 with osteoarthritis even though I can no longer do long hikes this helps a lot since in spite of everything I’m still tent camping and enjoying nature just not backpacking.
Like ice axes and ski poles, if the strap is adjusted properly for length and I put my hand through the strap from the bottom and hold onto the grip over the straps, the straps help support my weight that I'm putting onto the poles so I don't have to grip the poles as tightly with my hands. That significantly decreases the amount of stress put on my wrist and forearm muscles and the overall amount of energy expended over a day of uphill & downhill hiking.
👍 Yes. It's the Strap over the TOP of the Hand that takes the load / does the work. Pole positioned loosely between the Thumb and Forefinger with the Ring and Little Fingers helping out as and when required. When I do wear Gloves in cold conditions, most wear on my gloves takes place from the Straps going through the junction between my Thumb and Forefinger.
I’d also suggest not putting too much of your weight on the trekking poles when descending very steep terrain. This autumn in Patagonia, I saw a man who had to be rescued by helicopter because one of his poles failed and he ended up diving head-first into the rocks. Great video as always! Greetings from Argentina 🇦🇷
I found that the rubber tips are useful if you are hiking over boulders. the plain tips may slip on the hard rocky surfaces which can be a problem if you're going downhill!
Twenty-five+ years of using trekking poles has long shown me the benefits. Stabbing down to stop a sliding foot; pushing hard up a mountain path with a full pack; even just setting a rhythm on the flats; poles used properly save one from falls, save energy going up, even saving one's fingers from feeling like sausages after a few hours. Downhill use has often stymied me, but I still make it work as you see in this video. Lucky for me, Leki had a short video all those years ago and I realized I was doing it wrong (and, thus, couldn't figure out a real benefit for them). And in the ensuing years seen thousands of people who have never seen this or any other video--or even read the instructions that come with the poles--and seem to use them as fashion accessories. It's hard to keep my mouth shut watching someone struggle up a hill with the poles tucked into their pack, but to each their own.
Might want to hand out a little car with a few of your favorite video links for people to have a chance in their own time to benefit from what you know that works.
I've used my poles a few times now on fairly steep terrain with unsure footing; also once during low visibility. I think the poles saved my life; certainly kept me from falling numerous times. I got poles based mostly on recommendations and hoping to lessen impact on my knee--my expectations were modest. After one hike on terrain, I was pleasantly surprised 1) how much they improved my footing and balance and 2) over the course of a long day, how much they saved my knees (especially going downhill).
Lots of good info here. In my trek in Iceland I was taught to put all my fingers through the loop,except for the thumbs which wrap part way round the pole. That worked like a charm from then on and I haven't looked back. Before that I wasn't using the loops at all and was considering cutting them off.
After miles of thru hiking, I find it easier to use my trekking poles without any strap : less risk of injury if I fall, easier to handle and remove if I stop, more options of grip (high or low grip depending on the terrain / inclination), lighter, less hassle. The only downside is that you have to work a little bit on your wrist grip, but it is really not a big deal (you get used to it). Going back to the good old shepherd stick !
Not a fan of trekking poles, usually only use them for water crossings or particularly bad terrain. I do use one for fly fishing to test water depth. However, a very informative and practical video as always. Thank you.
Terrific video. Always good to remember how to use the straps and why. It's a bit counterintuitive - but once you understand - it makes absolute sense. When I was hiking very steep mountain trails in Japan I was always adjusting my poles. No one else was. Couldn't they see how much better mine were working? I love being half mountain goat with four points of ground contact. I'd recommend that unless you always hike from home or your car, to get the folding poles that collapse tighter. Then they never stick out of your day bag, never get in the way - so you will always have them. Also you don't need the most expensive poles. Almost anything will do. I became a user in China many years ago when my knee was giving me trouble. Those poles cost $5 US each. Loved them. I'm an old guy with a 'tricky' knee, sometimes it hurts, then it doesn't. Poles solve most of this. Get an extra pair of rubber feet (don't bother with the longer 'foot' doesn't seem to make any difference) and when you use them tape them on. Many parks don't want people chipping the rocks with the bare tips, And if you tape the feet on, mud won't suck them off. (And maybe attach some orange paracord so when that mud in Dorset that suck two off in one day, impossible to retrieve or even find! I could've just pulled up on the string.)
Good video. A good tip for new users of poles is "It takes time to get used to them" I hear a lot of people say that they tried them once and couldn't get on with them. That's normal, most of us feel like that, you have to get used to walking with them. It takes time but is totally worth it.
👍👍👍. I agree with you on almost all of the content except for the 'grip'. Now 74, since coming to Switzerland, i have been 'Nordic Walking' 4-5 times per week more than 10 years now and learned the following technique from my Swiss Walking Friends .. and by observing others .. one learns a great deal through observation 😊. The Pole Strap (wrist junction / TOP of hand) is what one uses to drive forward .. or brake when going downhill and not the Pole Hand Grips (going up or down hill, 'picking' one's way through difficult, broken terrain is an exception (more so downhill) and when a firm grip on the poles is required .. and then, the hands are out of the straps in case of a fall and one does not wish to possibly become 'one' with a pole 😏). Load / driving force is taken via the straps by the top of the hands / wrist joint. Pole handle nestled between the open 'V' of the Thumb and Forefinger to keep it in place with the Ring Finger and 'Pinky' helping out as and when required .. hand open and relaxed. When in motion, no ('death' 😁) grip needed on the poles at all. My poles are budget 'Decathlon' Aluminium ones with normal straps. I like them because of the adjustability in length they give me .. strapped to my pack, walking or using as poles with a tarp. Some of my colleagues have the fancy carbon fibre models with 'clip-on' straps that have a larger load bearing surface over the top of their hands .. sort of a semi triangular 'top glove'. Try it. For some, it may take a bit of getting used to but once mastered, one doesn't not normally go back. A good share .. thanks. I'm sure that many will benefit from your advice. Take care ..
Good video. I see many people make the mistakes you described. This is a good review for beginner or intermediate hikers. I have a couple important hints to add. It is sometimes helpful to place a small rubber boot on the end of the pole to assist traction on rocks and in water situations. It also helps to sneak up on birds. Second, and I see this a lot, as you seem to imply, shorter length on the way up, slightly longer on the way down. I see people with long poles reaching and basically over striding with their poles on the way up. It creates instability and wastes a lot of energy.
Spot on Oscar! I’ve used trekking poles for over 50 years. It never ceases to amaze me how many folks use them incorrectly. There lots of bad info out there, you’re good.
I am walking mainly in Australia. Trekking poles have one important advantage which may be bigger than any others. The vibration of the poles hitting the ground signals to snakes that danger is coming and they move away. Mind you, death adders will not move.
I'm just starting out and you're one of the 4 other hiking channels that I've really liked. Feels like real wisdom and not just an ad. Also, I love the 'to the point' approach in the editing and your teaching style. Some of the other channels I've subscribed to are Americans and I love those people but oh boy they sometimes take a while to get to their point! Thanks for the videos
I'm an American and I agree with your comment. Ever since YT required longer videos, many people find it harder to expand their 8 minute spiel into 15 minutes or more, so they just ramble. Of course, there are naturally garrulous talkers, too.
Once I began cross country skiing and ski racing in the late '70s, AND using the ski pole strap properly, I have always used my trekking poles the same way and have helped others to do the same. BTW, RUBBER TIPS with steel center inserts are great for rocky terrain as we have in the desert southwest and the mountains.. Plus, when using hiking pole as tent poles, WITH TIPS ON THE GROUND, rubber tips don't sink in very much like bare, sharp carbide tips do.
Great points. When I teach Nordic skiing to beginners I have them just do a normal arm swing with walking and the ski poles dragging. This get them away from the same foot same arm forward motion. As a Nordic skier I see many folks using the straight through grip - people are used to doing this from Alpine skiing. You get no power from pushing off against the strap. Most Nordic ski poles don't have a fat top - which makes putting your poles in your palms for push-off less comfortable. Adjustable poles are important - this helps with the pole placement. I often make the downhill side longer on a steep traverse. Shorten for going up, lengthen for going down - when I want more reach. Also a ladder lock / flip lock is more secure than a twist lock. I sometimes put tip guards/rubber feet on - so the tips don't skate on hard surfaces, sink into mud. As well as changing out the baskets. I mostly use a 3/4 circle basket so the front of the basket is flat, right angle to the direction of travel.
You show it the right way. Just one hint: About 30 jears ago it saved my life when my hand was "entagled" in the sling of the trekking pole. It stoped me from falling further down a steep slope. As there were almost no dedicated trekking poles in the 90th we were using ski poles which fortunately were much more rigid and stable. So it might be a good idea not to go too lightweight in some parts of your equipment.
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I was taught correct way to put on skiing poles when I was maybe 4. Never understood why it was done that way but I've done it that way ever since. Now I understand! Thanks :)
I definitely adjust my pole lengths on steep inclines and declines. Most of these tips I had seen elsewhere, but can also say that, from experience and paying attention, a lot of this people can learn on their own--observing what works and doesn't.
Glad to know I’m using poles correctly! I’ve always been a huge advocate for trekking poles and finally convinced my friends to get some. But it always shocks me how often I see hikers using poles incorrectly or not at all since they think it’s only for balance.
I have used poles for many years and agree with this video. The only thing I would add is that on very steep climbs on certain terrains I sometimes find it useful to place both poles ahead of me on the higher level and use them like a handrail.
I would go out on many walks and practice with the poles until you don’t have to think about it because it comes naturally to you, and as other commenters said, take your hands out of the strap when going down hill so the poles can fall away and not injure you if you do happen to fall despite using them.
I used to roll my eyes at people using trekking poles. Then, I used them. I'm hooked. I consider them essential gear. I was lost in the woods in Maine. Only meant to do a little 5 mile hike. I've never been there before. Was totally unprepared. Underdressed. Zero gear with me. The trail blazes were awful. Before I knew it, I was lost. It was getting dark and cold 30F. My sweater was soaked in sweat. My only hope was to get to the car. I was dead on my feet tired. (Had done two other hikes earlier in the day) If I stopped or fell, I'm sure I'd have froze to death. I picked up two sticks and made "trekking poles." They kept me upright and going. Without them, I would have fallen from exhaustion or loss of balance (it was nearly pitch dark) I will never go in the woods without being properly equipped again. That includes trekking poles or a walking stick. On another trip, a pole saved me from unknowingly walking off of a cliff and falling 50 feet. I was pushing through super thick, tall grass with rocky ground. I was using a pole to feel for unseen boulders under the grass. I plunged the pole down and felt nothing. Looking more closely, I discovered I was standing very close to a sheer drop. The grass was growing up to and over the edge. Lol. I'm bringing the poles.
@@kursantstrzelecki2958 Hahaha! Yes, it's good to have a Pole with you, on an adventure. Friendly, capable people and most are excellent cooks too. 😁👍🏻. I have some Polish ancestry as well.
Nice video, what i like best about my poles is that they gave a long grip section so i can adjust the length instantly by just moving my hand up or down. Helps when the terrain gets rocky and rough
I have a bad knee so I was an early adopter. I don't put my strap around my wrist, but rather put my hand through the loop and hold the handle. This allows for a quick grip transition (more on this later), more unhibited range of motion, and a quick one-hand release when desired. The easiest way to visualize trekking poles is imaging a convenient hand railing on both sides of you and how you might use it on various uneven terrain for support, balance, to aid ascent, to aid descent, and to probe the unknown as an extension of your hand. I generally use three pole techniques with a change of grip if is a lot of one type of terrain. Ascent (upward slope) I choke down to the lower handle even grabbing below the handle sometimes and use a plant ahead and pull motion with alternating poles like I might on a staircase with railing. This lets me get my arms involved in the climb. On level terrain, I walk like normal with an arm swing, but the TIPS of my poles are always along side me or behind me (not really ever ahead unless I am testing something like marshy ground or loose rocks). Similar to cross country skiing, my poles are sort of pushing me ahead as well as steadying and supporting me. The best energy saving technique is to merely hold the poles lightly and rotate the wrists as you do a natural arm swing with the hand muscles barely working. Finally, the trekking pole gold is in descent, where it saves my knees, prevents dangerous falls, and allows a more natural posture which in turn saves the back. Here I switch to a high or even top grip, that is, with my hand still through the strap, I hold the top of pole (end cap) and reach forward (down hill). Once I have a firm pole plant, I transfer weight on to it ergonomically from the top, again like holding a hand rail. If it is a long or steep descent, I sometimes extend my poles to get a better more upright posture (not hunching precariously forward downhill). Man, it works great in taking the pounding off my knees. My favorite set of poles has a compass on one end cap which allows for a convenient cardinal direction check. And a small grape-sized LED light which provides extra directable illumination at night and detectability on the trail when shared with faster moving mountain bikers or skiiers. My last tip is, get the lightest poles that you can afford. Extra length comes in handy for many reasons, so if you have a choice get the longer extendable poles. And if you get a choice on locking methods, I prefer clip clamps to screw knobs (which I have found unreliable) or bungee self collapsing (which fail on sticky terrain i.e mud, snow).
Most of the time I use LEKI Micro Trail Vario carbon poles with the "shark tooth" grip. There is no strap to adjust and the basket is small and non-removeable. The strap is like a cut away glove and is of benefit if you switch to Nordic Walking when reaching a flat section of terrain. Your grip of the pole needs to be relaxed for the Nordic Walking action.
Loved the video thanks for the tips! However for the last part, encouraging to take the caps off is not sustainable. Especially on busy trails where if everyone does this, it damages the trail and nature.
my grip's been right, but I think i've been setting them down too far forward on flat terrain!! i'll give the further back method a go next time I'm out with them! I started out not using trekking poles, then my first backpacking trip where my knees were sore after I gave them a go, never had sore knees since! my ankles give out first by a long shot. Now I use them any hike more significant than a daily walk, they're just so nice to have especially on downhills and uphills. Feels great to have my arms helping with the propelling up or bracing down!
Only thing I notice on the downhill you didnt specifically mention, but you did show was using the strap correctly lets you easily move your hands up to the top of the pole grip as you descend. A much better position for the wrist when descending.
Excellent. The best video I’ve seen on the subject. I would just add that the number one mistake I see is poles being carried on backpack. I always wonder under what conditions or terrain do these folks think they will take them off and use them. Sure, I commonly put one or both away while scrambling but otherwise…
That correct method is the way EVERY x-c and past alpine skiers wear poles. It was the mountaineers who appear to have first used poles for trekking, mostly for reducing stress while going downhill with 20-40 kg backpack loads. The double poling with that weight was necessary in rocky terrain. i use them to move nettles, spiky flora and branches, and Toxicodendron, poison oak, ivy, sumac, so that you will not brush it and experience the itching/blistering, and recommend poles wherever these species are common.. It's more convenient than avoidance. Vastly increased ease when rising from a rest while packing, though trekking poles unlike ski poles claim don't weight them. If they are not suitable for weighting, just buy good ski poles instead, which ARE.
Viendo tus explicaciones concluyo que hago las cosas bien. Tengo una lumbalgia y tendinitis rotuliana desde hace años y gracias a mi par de bastones Leki puedo permitirme caminatas muy largas y con pesadas mochilas de travesía. En las bajadas muy pronunciadas adopto la postura de "sigilo" (como si fuera ladrón tratando de pasar desapercibido) es la que menos castiga mis sensibles rodillas y me permite bajar con más rapidez. Gracias por tus vídeos, Óscar. Saludos desde España (que ganemos hoy)!
Great suggestions - gap filling for most. In additon, I think if you put too much weigth on the poles downwards, your sole will be too ligth and it feels like a slippy surface. So it needs to load your foot enough, avoiding injures.
Having used ski & trekking poles for almost 70 years I have to say practically all "pole instructors" use them somewhat clumsily, including you. Sorry to say. When the strap is used like you advice (correctly) there is no need to squeeze the grip as tight as you do in some of the clips. Hand - grip connection is more like a ball joint, as there is no need to grip them hardly at all, back of the hand taking all the weight with the strap.
YES. I took GLM ski at Aspen Highlands in the early 70's and that is exactly what they taught us. That was after they took us thru the mogul fields on three foot skis with no poles.
This video made me realize I need to replace my trekking poles before going on real/longer hikes. Mine have sort of a velcro glove instead of a strap and there is no way of using them without risking that thumb injury, which I have actually already experienced once but not with trekking poles. It hurts people!
What a helpful video! It's great to learn about the common mistakes hikers make when using trekking poles. Your tips on correct gripping and positioning are really useful, and the benefits of using trekking poles are definitely something to consider. Thanks for sharing this valuable information, and also for the discount on the Saily eSim. Looking forward to more of your hiking tips! Cheers, Simon - Tales From Abroad
LOL I just made a comment pointing that out, drawing from my XC ski experience. But I never had the straps "tight" but cinched enough so my hands were at grip-level when putting downward force on the straps. Also, we don't put our thumbs through the loops.
Very good video. I’ve used them right and wrong. Never really knew what I was doing. But with this proper technique I’m sure it will improve my comfort and endurance.
A fine point I'd like to add is NOT to GRIP the pole grips. You'll tire your hands and wrists. Use the straps. Put most of your downward effort into the straps and use your thumbs and forefingers to maintain connection with the grips. Also, don't put thumbs through the straps, that way will allow you to put weight into the straps. For downhill, also lean into the straps after rotating your hands downward on the grips (so they're on the top side). Putting that kind of pressure into the palms will cause pain, palms aren't built to take that kind of pressure.
Great video, I consider myself a trekking pole ninja 😆 and can’t add too much more to your advice. Along with fending off wild animals, (which we don’t have too many of in New Zealand) they’re good for bush whacking through overgrown trails fending sharp branches or grass. I never use the straps except if on steeper terrain where losing a pole involves a climb down. By allowing the hand to grip the pole by the hand grip or below when ascending really steep, variable surface terrain. you can quickly slide hand up or down as required digging into the slope above. Yes, they are a knee saver! Another tip - if your'e heading out for a long and potentially physically taxing few days, take Paracetamol before, during and after the adventure 😃 Great video - use the poles people!
With the correct strap use like instructed here all the weight is on the strap and you need not squeeze the grip at all. Also much better range of movement and pole placement.
New subscriber - loving the sane, sensible advice, and the no-nonsense friendly delivery. One question - your gear listings never seem to include this fantastic cap you wear in this and other videos. What is it and where can we get one? Thanks for the great videos, looking forward to putting some of your advice into action.
I still use trekking poles, though I’m not sure I should be. Did a trip one year ago up Swamp Creek in the Cabinet Mountains and because I had left my trekking poles at home in Western Washington, had to do without. There were few smooth places in the trail and I figured I was going to have to be tediously cautious with every step. What I found, thought, was that instead of having my mind occupied with 4 points of contact, I now only had to focus on 2. I actually don’t remember missteps. When hiking with trekking poles, I seem to frequently roll my ankles or trip over rocks as I focus on where my trekking pole will touch the ground. Still have to watch for gravel slips, but even that seemed to be better.
I personally use a longer pole as I'm well used to using Nordic skiing poles. When planted the pole, for me, should be angled such that it acts like a bannister rail on a steep set of stairs. Small adjustment to the length of the poles will make a significant difference, folks should try first shortening and then lengthening their poles to see if things improve one way or the other. You'll quickly get the feel of when it's 'right'. And do look up what the Nordic skiers say, even if it's only to get an alternate viewpoint that may not be applicable to your conditions! And depending, you may find that a single pole can be just as helpful (especially if you find a loner lost pole to use ;-).
A "Like" from me just for the beautiful shots of the Alpine country! ❤ Thank you for the good tips on how to grab the trekking poles. I will be paying attention next time!
Good video; I would just add that you should place the pole where it keeps you in best balance and where it will prevent a fall. And part of that is first pushing the pole straight towards the center of the earth. Then even with carbide tips on rock it is much less likely to skate off the rock. Then the length and placement advice can be best used . And on downhill; the body should almost always be nose over toes; and hiking poles help dial that in. And on cross country hillside traverses; one pole longer; and the other shorter is ideal.
I don't think they existed when I started hiking and scrambling, but I tried them when they were available, and was never quite convinced of their utility. I am a loner and preferred going solo, so although I know they don't weigh much, I could not afford any unnecessary weight when was I out for several days and nights, and only took what was essential for survival.
Great tips! I see some of those mistakes regularly when people use the wrongly. Trekking poles help so much, specially when carrying an 11kg kid plus water and food up and down a montain 😅
The small rubber feet (shaped like a boot) have some use for non-paved surfaces... If I know I am going to be doing some bigger swifter water crossing I will use these tips as they can give me a larger surface area of 'grip' while crossing the river.
What do you mean by "even when you are 60 or 70"? I'm 68 and I only just started using poles, but it means that I now do an 11-mile training hike in 3 hours rather than 4. I walked the Blue Ridge Mt VA solo this year in August. Next year I will be doing the High Sierra Trail and Mt Whitney in Sept/Oct as it was dangerously hot to do it in August this year, that will complete the top 5 Mt in the 48 States. Next year I'm also doing the Inca Trail Peru when I'm not racing yachts. Oh, I'm a double below-knee amputee UK Army Veteran. Hopefully, I'll still be hiking Mt in my 80s with or without sticks.
Great video, Oscar. Do you have any recommendations for carrying the poles through airport security? Yes, it is best to pack them in checked luggage, but I had a recent knee injury, and security at Heathrow nearly confiscated them. They said the U.K. now has much stricter rules, and allowed me through but warned that since the poles might be used as weapons, not to bring them again. Any advice would be appreciated.
I bought Leki poles years ago for my first big 5-day tramp in decades, but for the first hour while ascending I struggled with my way-to-heavy pack at the rear of my group. I suddenly "clicked" and found the correct rhythm and technique with my poles, and within 15 mins I had overtaken everybody and was way out front. My buddies reckoned I had afterburners, but I calculated that for almost no extra effort I was getting 2cm extra stride length while ascending and on the flat. I'm 71 now and still use them on every tramp, and I use them exactly as you describe.
Great video, thanks! You got yourself another subscriber ❤. Question: I usually position the tracking poles a little bit in front my feet and use the biceps to help pull me in/up, which helps a lot my knees (since I distribute the weight). Putting them kind of in my side and behind, as you mentioned, would add “impulse”, but is that really more efficient than pulling yourself up towards the tracking pole? I’m asking because when I do my way it literally looks like an extra help to pull me up.
I do not have trecking poles. I make one with a decent tree branch a bit dry already. On easy terrain they slow me down. Over 3 mph they get in my legs/steps. Not a plus. But to slow you down is for me THE BIG benefit going downhill on steep/risky terrain. Assuming I pick the best spot to land my downhill foot, the last thing I need is added kinetic energy😂. And yes the downhill foot lands lighter too. Big plus. I am sure it helps knees going down with a pack long distances. I have not hiked the Grand Canyon rim to rim yet and together with microspikes (ice) I will absolutely take them. 70 +yo zero knee issues (or any other). Quitting sugar 10 years ago also let me ditch the glasses I had been wearing all my life😂. It is not the calendar age, it is the healthspan!
Informative. One failure of pole I experienced is pole lower tube sticks inside mud and upper comes out , its pretty frustrating. Also I find there is only one hole in lower tube so my comfort height is not there. My height is 5feet 4 inch what as per you height of pole up & down the terrain
Use exactly the same poles. I never use straps as a precaution. I had some situations where a pole stuck in the rocks and was pulling me back and forcing me to fall. It's safer to let it go. And I have taped unused holes in the poles as the sound of wind was driving me mad all the time :)
I prefer the poles a little bit shorter so that my forearm is about at a 45. It just seems to better mimic the natural flow of the arms while walking. Been using for 20 years now and they are a game changer, especially for steep terrain where loose footing is an issue. I won't hike without them.
I have only used a trekking pole once. I shared a pair with my girlfriend when we walked up the Virgin River Narrows in Zion National Park, USA. The single pole (one each) DID aid stability, since we were mostly wading in the river, so could not see our feet. I can see that on easy trails, they would be easy to use. Boulder hopping on talus [no trail) seems like they would get in the way. You’d have to find solid foot placement AND stable places to put the poles, if you ever had to rely on one for balance. Relying on a poorly placed pole for balance would be much worse than no poles. In other words, while they are popular, I won’t use them, … until I am very much older, maybe (I am currently 77).
Is there a reason for having you elbows at a 90 degree angle? I prefer super long poles, even on steep uphills. Feels like I can pull myself up with much more force, rather than having a shorter pole and push myself forward...
Looks like I'm doing everything properly. However I fell over once and got the pole trapped underneath my body and couldn't get out even though I was using the grip you recommended.
I literally just cut the straps off the pole. I can't stand they straps. So much easier to deal with. But that's just me nice hilleberg anaris tent I have that one to great tent.
With respect , I use the poles the “wrong” way by putting hands thru the straps and have done for years. I feel this is comfortable to me and useful in the fact I don’t need to lay poles down to take something out of my front area packpqck. Everyone is different and I believe it’s what’s suits the individual best does.
I started to not even use the straps on my trekking pole, more than one occasion where the pole got stuck and if I was strapped in, either direction, I know my wrist would have been hurting!
@@matt_w probably an even better idea than not using them. I’ve even had the straps get stuck on branches when they are stowed away and not being used 🙄
Always have a cup on the end of your pole. If you hit soft ground or a crack in the rocks it will get stuck and throw you off balance. Experience can be a heartless teacher.
i don’t know. Not sure if the grab under actually makes any difference, that’s often repeated, could it be a myth? What i’m doing is trying to practice breaking fall with the sticks because there’s many new options for injury when under load.
Adrian, we who have been skiing X-country for almost 70 years, know. In primary school already we skied over 1000 km per winter. With the under and up strap wrap like instructed here there is practically no need to squeeze the grip at all, and there is a lot more freedom of movement and pole placement. And it is safer also.
They're nice for the knees (3 operations), but I kept breaking them because I used too much upper body. That gets expensive and ends up being another piece of equipment to maintain and carry.
My wife and have been hiking, climbing and mountaineering for around half a century, of course also using trecking poles. I more or less gave up using them when I found they did't help my knees as much as hoped, and also had a couple of unpleasant, uncontrollable falls when the tip got stuck and I couldn't get my hand out of the strap in time, having a rotating fall around the pole. My wife continued with them, but I have noticed they are beginning to negatively affect and reduce her leg and hip mobility, especially in rocky hiking terrain. Instead of using using ideal (dynamic) foot positions as given by the terrain, she tends to limit them to the positions between the poles. This leads to a limitation in motion even in situations without poles, for example when we go canyoneering. We are trying to combat that and now only take poles with us for trips where we see a distinct advantage of them. Oh, yes, we have a UL-tent that needs trecking poles to erect, so that is one time we have to take them.
Great comment. We have many trails that are rocky and on the steeper side where I live and I see most people not being helped by poles. The main problem is their hip position is behind causing a) more stress on their knees, especially when stepping down and putting their foot sideways to the slope, b) more stress on their back that needs to compensate for leaning forward, c) the core muscles that are best at keeping the balance are not active, d) they walk too straight and the balance on the foot is suboptimal for maximum traction, e) quad muscles are overworked on descents not being balanced by hamstrings. There are technical situations where poles are handy but not for majority of people I see on our trails.
Yay! Good comment. Many people change their posture into a rather unnatural one. In my experience, people using poles fall more often, since their sense of balance is diminished, as it is taken over by artifical extra legs. But don't take anything from me, I never use poles. One reason: they turn walking into a sport, unneccessarily complicating something beautifully simple.
I've been putting my hand up through the strap for 20 years. In the video you can see how this puts a side load on the CMC joints at the base of the thumb. My cartilage is worn out and I'm experiencing painful arthritis. My hand specialist calls it skier's thumb. Now I just put my fingers and mid-hand through the straps. Wear and tear is hard to avoid in life...
My 62 year old knees can't descend without moving my hips side to side as if I am creating a mini 'switchback' on the trail in descent. This pushes my weight vertical to some imagined horizontal plane and I use my poles to help stabilize my descent on that imagined plane. This isn't quite as slow as you would think, but it does decrease knee pain considerably at the day's end. Final advice: "Don't Fall". Yeah... "Don't Fall"...
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Hi! Thanks for sharing the tips. Could I ask you what mountain is that one appearing at 2:35?
@@estrafalario5612 Thanks! It's Corno Grande - the highest peak in the Apennine mountain range in central Italy, Abruzzo. :)
Happy to say that apparently I'm already doing everything right. Trekking poles are good on terrain up to a certain difficulty, imo. You need to know when to put them away and use your hands to balance and grab hold of things..
Yup, exactly!
There's some terrain I'll bring one so I have an outrigger in the downhill hand, and a dexterous hand for grabbing uphill. Also a good choice when you have a fair few miles in before it gets technical and want to shave the weight and pack volume. Also depends if you're camping and want/need two to setup, but finding one tree is far easier than finding two perfectly spaced for your shelter, and one immovable object is infinitely better than none for cranking on tension.
@@csn583 Good points! Will give that a go sometime. That being said, I use quite beefy trekking poles (ski touring poles actually). But I really rely on them when going downhill, good way to get a decent upper body workout in. For long distance hikes with less elevation I would probably consider getting something lighter.
Gotta say, very classy how you did the advertisement. You added a timestamp and even a little duration bar at the bottom. Also, great tips! Much respect!
Thank you! :)
Agree 100% with the tips you shared. Many of them are common sense but my wife needed to hear it from a person like yourself, not just from me. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Oscar, i totally agree with all your explanations but one. In downhill movement, we teach the hikers to go out of the strap, so in case the are falling, the poles can be thrown away from the hiker to prevent injuries. We had cases of poles breaking and then piercing the hikers thighs, so we started to teach this technik with major succsess.
But the point of the trekking pole is to prevent falling and slow your descent in the event of a fall, isn't it? Why would you get rid of the safety device meant to help you? That's like dangling from a cliff and cutting the cord because there's a chance you could hang yourself.
Yes, the poles are used to prevent falling, but fact is hikers fall even using poles. In this sepcific szenario, it's safer to have the option to throw them aside and not falling on them !! Imagine you're hiking downwards and one of your poles breaks (and this will be in the second you put weight on it) the chance of alling is very very high! Ask yourself if you would prefer falling on them or would it be less dangerous to have them out of the way? Fact is that people pierced their thighs with a broken pole !! But in the end, the choice is yours.
@@CDL_GamingHe didn’t say “don’t use the trekking poles going downhill”. He said “don’t put your hand through the strap going downhill”. You can still use them for support and balance without the strap. If you fall anyway, you can just let go and do whatever you need to do to break your fall and prevent injury. If the poles are attached to your wrists, at the least they get in your way, at the worst they can cause injury.
exactly ...thank you for your further explanations. 👌
If you have to throw the poles away you are wrapping the straps wrong. With the proper under and up method the pole drops away when you open your hand, but hangs by the strap and do not get lost.
Thanks for the advice! At 67 with osteoarthritis even though I can no longer do long hikes this helps a lot since in spite of everything I’m still tent camping and enjoying nature just not backpacking.
Like ice axes and ski poles, if the strap is adjusted properly for length and I put my hand through the strap from the bottom and hold onto the grip over the straps, the straps help support my weight that I'm putting onto the poles so I don't have to grip the poles as tightly with my hands. That significantly decreases the amount of stress put on my wrist and forearm muscles and the overall amount of energy expended over a day of uphill & downhill hiking.
👍 Yes.
It's the Strap over the TOP of the Hand that takes the load / does the work.
Pole positioned loosely between the Thumb and Forefinger with the Ring and Little Fingers helping out as and when required.
When I do wear Gloves in cold conditions, most wear on my gloves takes place from the Straps going through the junction between my Thumb and Forefinger.
I’d also suggest not putting too much of your weight on the trekking poles when descending very steep terrain. This autumn in Patagonia, I saw a man who had to be rescued by helicopter because one of his poles failed and he ended up diving head-first into the rocks.
Great video as always! Greetings from Argentina 🇦🇷
I found that the rubber tips are useful if you are hiking over boulders. the plain tips may slip on the hard rocky surfaces which can be a problem if you're going downhill!
Twenty-five+ years of using trekking poles has long shown me the benefits. Stabbing down to stop a sliding foot; pushing hard up a mountain path with a full pack; even just setting a rhythm on the flats; poles used properly save one from falls, save energy going up, even saving one's fingers from feeling like sausages after a few hours. Downhill use has often stymied me, but I still make it work as you see in this video. Lucky for me, Leki had a short video all those years ago and I realized I was doing it wrong (and, thus, couldn't figure out a real benefit for them). And in the ensuing years seen thousands of people who have never seen this or any other video--or even read the instructions that come with the poles--and seem to use them as fashion accessories. It's hard to keep my mouth shut watching someone struggle up a hill with the poles tucked into their pack, but to each their own.
Might want to hand out a little car with a few of your favorite video links for people to have a chance in their own time to benefit from what you know that works.
I've used my poles a few times now on fairly steep terrain with unsure footing; also once during low visibility. I think the poles saved my life; certainly kept me from falling numerous times. I got poles based mostly on recommendations and hoping to lessen impact on my knee--my expectations were modest. After one hike on terrain, I was pleasantly surprised 1) how much they improved my footing and balance and 2) over the course of a long day, how much they saved my knees (especially going downhill).
Lots of good info here. In my trek in Iceland I was taught to put all my fingers through the loop,except for the thumbs which wrap part way round the pole. That worked like a charm from then on and I haven't looked back. Before that I wasn't using the loops at all and was considering cutting them off.
After miles of thru hiking, I find it easier to use my trekking poles without any strap : less risk of injury if I fall, easier to handle and remove if I stop, more options of grip (high or low grip depending on the terrain / inclination), lighter, less hassle. The only downside is that you have to work a little bit on your wrist grip, but it is really not a big deal (you get used to it).
Going back to the good old shepherd stick !
What about the Nordic walking feet? What advice for them on a trail??
Not a fan of trekking poles, usually only use them for water crossings or particularly bad terrain. I do use one for fly fishing to test water depth. However, a very informative and practical video as always. Thank you.
Terrific video. Always good to remember how to use the straps and why. It's a bit counterintuitive - but once you understand - it makes absolute sense.
When I was hiking very steep mountain trails in Japan I was always adjusting my poles. No one else was. Couldn't they see how much better mine were working? I love being half mountain goat with four points of ground contact.
I'd recommend that unless you always hike from home or your car, to get the folding poles that collapse tighter. Then they never stick out of your day bag, never get in the way - so you will always have them.
Also you don't need the most expensive poles. Almost anything will do. I became a user in China many years ago when my knee was giving me trouble. Those poles cost $5 US each. Loved them. I'm an old guy with a 'tricky' knee, sometimes it hurts, then it doesn't. Poles solve most of this.
Get an extra pair of rubber feet (don't bother with the longer 'foot' doesn't seem to make any difference) and when you use them tape them on. Many parks don't want people chipping the rocks with the bare tips, And if you tape the feet on, mud won't suck them off. (And maybe attach some orange paracord so when that mud in Dorset that suck two off in one day, impossible to retrieve or even find! I could've just pulled up on the string.)
Good video.
A good tip for new users of poles is "It takes time to get used to them"
I hear a lot of people say that they tried them once and couldn't get on with them. That's normal, most of us feel like that, you have to get used to walking with them. It takes time but is totally worth it.
👍👍👍.
I agree with you on almost all of the content except for the 'grip'.
Now 74, since coming to Switzerland, i have been 'Nordic Walking' 4-5 times per week more than 10 years now and learned the following technique from my Swiss Walking Friends .. and by observing others .. one learns a great deal through observation 😊.
The Pole Strap (wrist junction / TOP of hand) is what one uses to drive forward .. or brake when going downhill and not the Pole Hand Grips (going up or down hill, 'picking' one's way through difficult, broken terrain is an exception (more so downhill) and when a firm grip on the poles is required .. and then, the hands are out of the straps in case of a fall and one does not wish to possibly become 'one' with a pole 😏).
Load / driving force is taken via the straps by the top of the hands / wrist joint. Pole handle nestled between the open 'V' of the Thumb and Forefinger to keep it in place with the Ring Finger and 'Pinky' helping out as and when required .. hand open and relaxed. When in motion, no ('death' 😁) grip needed on the poles at all.
My poles are budget 'Decathlon' Aluminium ones with normal straps. I like them because of the adjustability in length they give me .. strapped to my pack, walking or using as poles with a tarp.
Some of my colleagues have the fancy carbon fibre models with 'clip-on' straps that have a larger load bearing surface over the top of their hands .. sort of a semi triangular 'top glove'.
Try it. For some, it may take a bit of getting used to but once mastered, one doesn't not normally go back.
A good share .. thanks. I'm sure that many will benefit from your advice. Take care ..
Good video. I see many people make the mistakes you described. This is a good review for beginner or intermediate hikers. I have a couple important hints to add. It is sometimes helpful to place a small rubber boot on the end of the pole to assist traction on rocks and in water situations. It also helps to sneak up on birds. Second, and I see this a lot, as you seem to imply, shorter length on the way up, slightly longer on the way down. I see people with long poles reaching and basically over striding with their poles on the way up. It creates instability and wastes a lot of energy.
Spot on Oscar! I’ve used trekking poles for over 50 years. It never ceases to amaze me how many folks use them incorrectly. There lots of bad info out there, you’re good.
I am walking mainly in Australia. Trekking poles have one important advantage which may be bigger than any others. The vibration of the poles hitting the ground signals to snakes that danger is coming and they move away. Mind you, death adders will not move.
Think that if I lived in Oz, I would never go outdoors!
The video is a good confirmation for how I use my trecking-poles for years already -- mainly following my own experience.
I'm just starting out and you're one of the 4 other hiking channels that I've really liked. Feels like real wisdom and not just an ad. Also, I love the 'to the point' approach in the editing and your teaching style. Some of the other channels I've subscribed to are Americans and I love those people but oh boy they sometimes take a while to get to their point! Thanks for the videos
I'm an American and I agree with your comment. Ever since YT required longer videos, many people find it harder to expand their 8 minute spiel into 15 minutes or more, so they just ramble. Of course, there are naturally garrulous talkers, too.
Thanks so much! I dont use my trekking poles often but i may be needing them on an upcoming trip and this is a very helpful reference! Kudos! 🤙🏻
Once I began cross country skiing and ski racing in the late '70s, AND using the ski pole strap properly, I have always used my trekking poles the same way and have helped others to do the same.
BTW, RUBBER TIPS with steel center inserts are great for rocky terrain as we have in the desert southwest and the mountains.. Plus, when using hiking pole as tent poles, WITH TIPS ON THE GROUND, rubber tips don't sink in very much like bare, sharp carbide tips do.
Great points. When I teach Nordic skiing to beginners I have them just do a normal arm swing with walking and the ski poles dragging. This get them away from the same foot same arm forward motion.
As a Nordic skier I see many folks using the straight through grip - people are used to doing this from Alpine skiing. You get no power from pushing off against the strap. Most Nordic ski poles don't have a fat top - which makes putting your poles in your palms for push-off less comfortable. Adjustable poles are important - this helps with the pole placement. I often make the downhill side longer on a steep traverse. Shorten for going up, lengthen for going down - when I want more reach. Also a ladder lock / flip lock is more secure than a twist lock.
I sometimes put tip guards/rubber feet on - so the tips don't skate on hard surfaces, sink into mud. As well as changing out the baskets. I mostly use a 3/4 circle basket so the front of the basket is flat, right angle to the direction of travel.
Putting the hand straight through the strap is a big mistake for alpine skiing also, can not reach out in turns.
You show it the right way. Just one hint: About 30 jears ago it saved my life when my hand was "entagled" in the sling of the trekking pole. It stoped me from falling further down a steep slope. As there were almost no dedicated trekking poles in the 90th we were using ski poles which fortunately were much more rigid and stable. So it might be a good idea not to go too lightweight in some parts of your equipment.
I was taught correct way to put on skiing poles when I was maybe 4. Never understood why it was done that way but I've done it that way ever since. Now I understand! Thanks :)
I definitely adjust my pole lengths on steep inclines and declines. Most of these tips I had seen elsewhere, but can also say that, from experience and paying attention, a lot of this people can learn on their own--observing what works and doesn't.
Glad to know I’m using poles correctly! I’ve always been a huge advocate for trekking poles and finally convinced my friends to get some. But it always shocks me how often I see hikers using poles incorrectly or not at all since they think it’s only for balance.
Oh and the mountains in the clouds in the background was truly stunning, well done!!
Great video thank you. I have used trekking poles for many years now with no major mistakes but still found some useful tips here
I have used poles for many years and agree with this video. The only thing I would add is that on very steep climbs on certain terrains I sometimes find it useful to place both poles ahead of me on the higher level and use them like a handrail.
Very timely video, I'm practicing for Mt Fuji this month and am planning to use trekking poles for the first time!
I would go out on many walks and practice with the poles until you don’t have to think about it because it comes naturally to you, and as other commenters said, take your hands out of the strap when going down hill so the poles can fall away and not injure you if you do happen to fall despite using them.
I used to roll my eyes at people using trekking poles. Then, I used them. I'm hooked. I consider them essential gear.
I was lost in the woods in Maine. Only meant to do a little 5 mile hike. I've never been there before. Was totally unprepared. Underdressed. Zero gear with me. The trail blazes were awful. Before I knew it, I was lost. It was getting dark and cold 30F. My sweater was soaked in sweat. My only hope was to get to the car. I was dead on my feet tired. (Had done two other hikes earlier in the day) If I stopped or fell, I'm sure I'd have froze to death. I picked up two sticks and made "trekking poles." They kept me upright and going. Without them, I would have fallen from exhaustion or loss of balance (it was nearly pitch dark) I will never go in the woods without being properly equipped again. That includes trekking poles or a walking stick.
On another trip, a pole saved me from unknowingly walking off of a cliff and falling 50 feet. I was pushing through super thick, tall grass with rocky ground. I was using a pole to feel for unseen boulders under the grass. I plunged the pole down and felt nothing. Looking more closely, I discovered I was standing very close to a sheer drop. The grass was growing up to and over the edge.
Lol. I'm bringing the poles.
Phew!
Poles. Always bring them. Greetings from Poland.
@@kursantstrzelecki2958 Hahaha! Yes, it's good to have a Pole with you, on an adventure. Friendly, capable people and most are excellent cooks too. 😁👍🏻. I have some Polish ancestry as well.
I'm glad you survived, dum bass. 😂
I'd rather twist my ankle and die from exposure, than look like a nerd.
Nice video, what i like best about my poles is that they gave a long grip section so i can adjust the length instantly by just moving my hand up or down. Helps when the terrain gets rocky and rough
Good info! I prefer to use a single longer staff.
I have a bad knee so I was an early adopter. I don't put my strap around my wrist, but rather put my hand through the loop and hold the handle. This allows for a quick grip transition (more on this later), more unhibited range of motion, and a quick one-hand release when desired.
The easiest way to visualize trekking poles is imaging a convenient hand railing on both sides of you and how you might use it on various uneven terrain for support, balance, to aid ascent, to aid descent, and to probe the unknown as an extension of your hand.
I generally use three pole techniques with a change of grip if is a lot of one type of terrain. Ascent (upward slope) I choke down to the lower handle even grabbing below the handle sometimes and use a plant ahead and pull motion with alternating poles like I might on a staircase with railing. This lets me get my arms involved in the climb.
On level terrain, I walk like normal with an arm swing, but the TIPS of my poles are always along side me or behind me (not really ever ahead unless I am testing something like marshy ground or loose rocks). Similar to cross country skiing, my poles are sort of pushing me ahead as well as steadying and supporting me. The best energy saving technique is to merely hold the poles lightly and rotate the wrists as you do a natural arm swing with the hand muscles barely working.
Finally, the trekking pole gold is in descent, where it saves my knees, prevents dangerous falls, and allows a more natural posture which in turn saves the back. Here I switch to a high or even top grip, that is, with my hand still through the strap, I hold the top of pole (end cap) and reach forward (down hill). Once I have a firm pole plant, I transfer weight on to it ergonomically from the top, again like holding a hand rail. If it is a long or steep descent, I sometimes extend my poles to get a better more upright posture (not hunching precariously forward downhill). Man, it works great in taking the pounding off my knees.
My favorite set of poles has a compass on one end cap which allows for a convenient cardinal direction check. And a small grape-sized LED light which provides extra directable illumination at night and detectability on the trail when shared with faster moving mountain bikers or skiiers.
My last tip is, get the lightest poles that you can afford. Extra length comes in handy for many reasons, so if you have a choice get the longer extendable poles. And if you get a choice on locking methods, I prefer clip clamps to screw knobs (which I have found unreliable) or bungee self collapsing (which fail on sticky terrain i.e mud, snow).
Most of the time I use LEKI Micro Trail Vario carbon poles with the "shark tooth" grip. There is no strap to adjust and the basket is small and non-removeable. The strap is like a cut away glove and is of benefit if you switch to Nordic Walking when reaching a flat section of terrain. Your grip of the pole needs to be relaxed for the Nordic Walking action.
It's very similar to how we learned to use ski poles when we were kids. Thanks for sharing.
Loved the video thanks for the tips! However for the last part, encouraging to take the caps off is not sustainable. Especially on busy trails where if everyone does this, it damages the trail and nature.
my grip's been right, but I think i've been setting them down too far forward on flat terrain!! i'll give the further back method a go next time I'm out with them!
I started out not using trekking poles, then my first backpacking trip where my knees were sore after I gave them a go, never had sore knees since! my ankles give out first by a long shot. Now I use them any hike more significant than a daily walk, they're just so nice to have especially on downhills and uphills. Feels great to have my arms helping with the propelling up or bracing down!
Only thing I notice on the downhill you didnt specifically mention, but you did show was using the strap correctly lets you easily move your hands up to the top of the pole grip as you descend. A much better position for the wrist when descending.
Same thing when hopping over streams etc.
Excellent. The best video I’ve seen on the subject. I would just add that the number one mistake I see is poles being carried on backpack. I always wonder under what conditions or terrain do these folks think they will take them off and use them. Sure, I commonly put one or both away while scrambling but otherwise…
That correct method is the way EVERY x-c and past alpine skiers wear poles.
It was the mountaineers who appear to have first used poles for trekking, mostly for reducing stress while going downhill with 20-40 kg backpack loads.
The double poling with that weight was necessary in rocky terrain.
i use them to move nettles, spiky flora and branches, and Toxicodendron, poison oak, ivy, sumac, so that you will not brush it and experience the itching/blistering, and recommend poles wherever these species are common.. It's more convenient than avoidance.
Vastly increased ease when rising from a rest while packing, though trekking poles unlike ski poles claim don't weight them. If they are not suitable for weighting, just buy good ski poles instead, which ARE.
You are quickly becoming my favourite RUclipsr 🙌
Viendo tus explicaciones concluyo que hago las cosas bien. Tengo una lumbalgia y tendinitis rotuliana desde hace años y gracias a mi par de bastones Leki puedo permitirme caminatas muy largas y con pesadas mochilas de travesía. En las bajadas muy pronunciadas adopto la postura de "sigilo" (como si fuera ladrón tratando de pasar desapercibido) es la que menos castiga mis sensibles rodillas y me permite bajar con más rapidez.
Gracias por tus vídeos, Óscar. Saludos desde España (que ganemos hoy)!
Great suggestions - gap filling for most. In additon, I think if you put too much weigth on the poles downwards, your sole will be too ligth and it feels like a slippy surface. So it needs to load your foot enough, avoiding injures.
Having used ski & trekking poles for almost 70 years I have to say practically all "pole instructors" use them somewhat clumsily, including you. Sorry to say. When the strap is used like you advice (correctly) there is no need to squeeze the grip as tight as you do in some of the clips. Hand - grip connection is more like a ball joint, as there is no need to grip them hardly at all, back of the hand taking all the weight with the strap.
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YES. I took GLM ski at Aspen Highlands in the early 70's and that is exactly what they taught us. That was after they took us thru the mogul fields on three foot skis with no poles.
This video made me realize I need to replace my trekking poles before going on real/longer hikes.
Mine have sort of a velcro glove instead of a strap and there is no way of using them without risking that thumb injury,
which I have actually already experienced once but not with trekking poles. It hurts people!
I’m new to tracking poles and I think this was a great video 😊
What a helpful video! It's great to learn about the common mistakes hikers make when using trekking poles. Your tips on correct gripping and positioning are really useful, and the benefits of using trekking poles are definitely something to consider. Thanks for sharing this valuable information, and also for the discount on the Saily eSim. Looking forward to more of your hiking tips!
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You're gripping them too tightly. Check out how the cross country skiers do it. The strap needs to be tight, the grip of your fingers loose. - Matti
👍 Yes!
Strap going over the Top of the hand doing the work / taking the load.
LOL I just made a comment pointing that out, drawing from my XC ski experience. But I never had the straps "tight" but cinched enough so my hands were at grip-level when putting downward force on the straps. Also, we don't put our thumbs through the loops.
Very good video. I’ve used them right and wrong. Never really knew what I was doing. But with this proper technique I’m sure it will improve my comfort and endurance.
A fine point I'd like to add is NOT to GRIP the pole grips. You'll tire your hands and wrists. Use the straps. Put most of your downward effort into the straps and use your thumbs and forefingers to maintain connection with the grips. Also, don't put thumbs through the straps, that way will allow you to put weight into the straps. For downhill, also lean into the straps after rotating your hands downward on the grips (so they're on the top side). Putting that kind of pressure into the palms will cause pain, palms aren't built to take that kind of pressure.
I've been tramping (NZ hiking) for years with only one pole, but I'm planning to go to two now. This was useful. Thank you, Oscar!
Its interesting the sizing and the grip are stuff I learned from down hill skiing but apply with treking poles completely.
Thanks, very informative, and concise for the content.
Great video, I consider myself a trekking pole ninja 😆 and can’t add too much more to your advice. Along with fending off wild animals, (which we don’t have too many of in New Zealand) they’re good for bush whacking through overgrown trails fending sharp branches or grass.
I never use the straps except if on steeper terrain where losing a pole involves a climb down. By allowing the hand to grip the pole by the hand grip or below when ascending really steep, variable surface terrain. you can quickly slide hand up or down as required digging into the slope above.
Yes, they are a knee saver! Another tip - if your'e heading out for a long and potentially physically taxing few days, take Paracetamol before, during and after the adventure 😃
Great video - use the poles people!
With the correct strap use like instructed here all the weight is on the strap and you need not squeeze the grip at all. Also much better range of movement and pole placement.
New subscriber - loving the sane, sensible advice, and the no-nonsense friendly delivery. One question - your gear listings never seem to include this fantastic cap you wear in this and other videos. What is it and where can we get one? Thanks for the great videos, looking forward to putting some of your advice into action.
I still use trekking poles, though I’m not sure I should be. Did a trip one year ago up Swamp Creek in the Cabinet Mountains and because I had left my trekking poles at home in Western Washington, had to do without. There were few smooth places in the trail and I figured I was going to have to be tediously cautious with every step. What I found, thought, was that instead of having my mind occupied with 4 points of contact, I now only had to focus on 2. I actually don’t remember missteps. When hiking with trekking poles, I seem to frequently roll my ankles or trip over rocks as I focus on where my trekking pole will touch the ground. Still have to watch for gravel slips, but even that seemed to be better.
I personally use a longer pole as I'm well used to using Nordic skiing poles. When planted the pole, for me, should be angled such that it acts like a bannister rail on a steep set of stairs.
Small adjustment to the length of the poles will make a significant difference, folks should try first shortening and then lengthening their poles to see if things improve one way or the other. You'll quickly get the feel of when it's 'right'. And do look up what the Nordic skiers say, even if it's only to get an alternate viewpoint that may not be applicable to your conditions!
And depending, you may find that a single pole can be just as helpful (especially if you find a loner lost pole to use ;-).
A "Like" from me just for the beautiful shots of the Alpine country! ❤
Thank you for the good tips on how to grab the trekking poles. I will be paying attention next time!
Good video; I would just add that you should place the pole where it keeps you in best balance and where it will prevent a fall. And part of that is first pushing the pole straight towards the center of the earth. Then even with carbide tips on rock it is much less likely to skate off the rock.
Then the length and placement advice can be best used .
And on downhill; the body should almost always be nose over toes; and hiking poles help dial that in.
And on cross country hillside traverses; one pole longer; and the other shorter is ideal.
I don't think they existed when I started hiking and scrambling, but I tried them when they were available, and was never quite convinced of their utility. I am a loner and preferred going solo, so although I know they don't weigh much, I could not afford any unnecessary weight when was I out for several days and nights, and only took what was essential for survival.
Great tips! I see some of those mistakes regularly when people use the wrongly.
Trekking poles help so much, specially when carrying an 11kg kid plus water and food up and down a montain 😅
The small rubber feet (shaped like a boot) have some use for non-paved surfaces... If I know I am going to be doing some bigger swifter water crossing I will use these tips as they can give me a larger surface area of 'grip' while crossing the river.
Another great video. Thank you!
What do you mean by "even when you are 60 or 70"? I'm 68 and I only just started using poles, but it means that I now do an 11-mile training hike in 3 hours rather than 4. I walked the Blue Ridge Mt VA solo this year in August. Next year I will be doing the High Sierra Trail and Mt Whitney in Sept/Oct as it was dangerously hot to do it in August this year, that will complete the top 5 Mt in the 48 States. Next year I'm also doing the Inca Trail Peru when I'm not racing yachts. Oh, I'm a double below-knee amputee UK Army Veteran. Hopefully, I'll still be hiking Mt in my 80s with or without sticks.
I use pacer poles and find they really help going up and down the trails and are comfortable to use. they are also strapless.
Great video, Oscar. Do you have any recommendations for carrying the poles through airport security? Yes, it is best to pack them in checked luggage, but I had a recent knee injury, and security at Heathrow nearly confiscated them. They said the U.K. now has much stricter rules, and allowed me through but warned that since the poles might be used as weapons, not to bring them again. Any advice would be appreciated.
I bought Leki poles years ago for my first big 5-day tramp in decades, but for the first hour while ascending I struggled with my way-to-heavy pack at the rear of my group. I suddenly "clicked" and found the correct rhythm and technique with my poles, and within 15 mins I had overtaken everybody and was way out front. My buddies reckoned I had afterburners, but I calculated that for almost no extra effort I was getting 2cm extra stride length while ascending and on the flat. I'm 71 now and still use them on every tramp, and I use them exactly as you describe.
Great info. Thanks for the content.
Great video, thanks! You got yourself another subscriber ❤.
Question: I usually position the tracking poles a little bit in front my feet and use the biceps to help pull me in/up, which helps a lot my knees (since I distribute the weight). Putting them kind of in my side and behind, as you mentioned, would add “impulse”, but is that really more efficient than pulling yourself up towards the tracking pole? I’m asking because when I do my way it literally looks like an extra help to pull me up.
Nice video! Thanks for sharing 👍
I do not have trecking poles. I make one with a decent tree branch a bit dry already.
On easy terrain they slow me down. Over 3 mph they get in my legs/steps. Not a plus.
But to slow you down is for me THE BIG benefit going downhill on steep/risky terrain. Assuming I pick the best spot to land my downhill foot, the last thing I need is added kinetic energy😂. And yes the downhill foot lands lighter too. Big plus.
I am sure it helps knees going down with a pack long distances.
I have not hiked the Grand Canyon rim to rim yet and together with microspikes (ice) I will absolutely take them.
70 +yo zero knee issues (or any other). Quitting sugar 10 years ago also let me ditch the glasses I had been wearing all my life😂.
It is not the calendar age, it is the healthspan!
Informative. One failure of pole I experienced is pole lower tube sticks inside mud and upper comes out , its pretty frustrating. Also I find there is only one hole in lower tube so my comfort height is not there. My height is 5feet 4 inch what as per you height of pole up & down the terrain
Oscar, another Great Video, Thank you very much!
Use exactly the same poles. I never use straps as a precaution. I had some situations where a pole stuck in the rocks and was pulling me back and forcing me to fall. It's safer to let it go. And I have taped unused holes in the poles as the sound of wind was driving me mad all the time :)
I prefer the poles a little bit shorter so that my forearm is about at a 45. It just seems to better mimic the natural flow of the arms while walking. Been using for 20 years now and they are a game changer, especially for steep terrain where loose footing is an issue. I won't hike without them.
Only know how to use ski poles, assumed same advise applied to their use for walking.
When to stop using them on steep terrain, ie. climbing.
I have only used a trekking pole once. I shared a pair with my girlfriend when we walked up the Virgin River Narrows in Zion National Park, USA. The single pole (one each) DID aid stability, since we were mostly wading in the river, so could not see our feet. I can see that on easy trails, they would be easy to use. Boulder hopping on talus [no trail) seems like they would get in the way. You’d have to find solid foot placement AND stable places to put the poles, if you ever had to rely on one for balance. Relying on a poorly placed pole for balance would be much worse than no poles. In other words, while they are popular, I won’t use them, … until I am very much older, maybe (I am currently 77).
Is there a reason for having you elbows at a 90 degree angle? I prefer super long poles, even on steep uphills. Feels like I can pull myself up with much more force, rather than having a shorter pole and push myself forward...
Nordic skiiers use very long poles. You might be right. I guess long poles will put even more strain on your arms.
Nice review of the basics.
Thoughts on the strapless poles by Urban Poling? I am very happy with my Activator2 poles. Very sturdy yet adjustable.
Looks like I'm doing everything properly.
However I fell over once and got the pole trapped underneath my body and couldn't get out even though I was using the grip you recommended.
I've learned everything without knowing it. Thanks for your vid!
I literally just cut the straps off the pole. I can't stand they straps. So much easier to deal with. But that's just me nice hilleberg anaris tent I have that one to great tent.
You lose 50% of the benefits of the poles without the straps correctly wrapped. Your choice...
@@karipintakivi9153 really I didn't know that I just never felt like they help me. they allways just get in the way for me.
Thank you for the infos. Where was this filmed?
With respect , I use the poles the “wrong” way by putting hands thru the straps and have done for years. I feel this is comfortable to me and useful in the fact I don’t need to lay poles down to take something out of my front area packpqck. Everyone is different and I believe it’s what’s suits the individual best does.
Sorry if already asked but where exactly in central Italy? Thanks for the informative video.
I started to not even use the straps on my trekking pole, more than one occasion where the pole got stuck and if I was strapped in, either direction, I know my wrist would have been hurting!
Removing straps was the best thing I ever did for my poles.
@@matt_w probably an even better idea than not using them. I’ve even had the straps get stuck on branches when they are stowed away and not being used 🙄
Always have a cup on the end of your pole. If you hit soft ground or a crack in the rocks it will get stuck and throw you off balance. Experience can be a heartless teacher.
Unless you’re walking regularly through loose and steep scree, having the pole sink in deep is necessary there!
Very good tips!!
i don’t know. Not sure if the grab under actually makes any difference, that’s often repeated, could it be a myth? What i’m doing is trying to practice breaking fall with the sticks because there’s many new options for injury when under load.
Adrian, we who have been skiing X-country for almost 70 years, know. In primary school already we skied over 1000 km per winter. With the under and up strap wrap like instructed here there is practically no need to squeeze the grip at all, and there is a lot more freedom of movement and pole placement. And it is safer also.
They're nice for the knees (3 operations), but I kept breaking them because I used too much upper body. That gets expensive and ends up being another piece of equipment to maintain and carry.
My wife and have been hiking, climbing and mountaineering for around half a century, of course also using trecking poles. I more or less gave up using them when I found they did't help my knees as much as hoped, and also had a couple of unpleasant, uncontrollable falls when the tip got stuck and I couldn't get my hand out of the strap in time, having a rotating fall around the pole. My wife continued with them, but I have noticed they are beginning to negatively affect and reduce her leg and hip mobility, especially in rocky hiking terrain. Instead of using using ideal (dynamic) foot positions as given by the terrain, she tends to limit them to the positions between the poles. This leads to a limitation in motion even in situations without poles, for example when we go canyoneering. We are trying to combat that and now only take poles with us for trips where we see a distinct advantage of them. Oh, yes, we have a UL-tent that needs trecking poles to erect, so that is one time we have to take them.
Great comment. We have many trails that are rocky and on the steeper side where I live and I see most people not being helped by poles. The main problem is their hip position is behind causing a) more stress on their knees, especially when stepping down and putting their foot sideways to the slope, b) more stress on their back that needs to compensate for leaning forward, c) the core muscles that are best at keeping the balance are not active, d) they walk too straight and the balance on the foot is suboptimal for maximum traction, e) quad muscles are overworked on descents not being balanced by hamstrings.
There are technical situations where poles are handy but not for majority of people I see on our trails.
Yay! Good comment. Many people change their posture into a rather unnatural one. In my experience, people using poles fall more often, since their sense of balance is diminished, as it is taken over by artifical extra legs. But don't take anything from me, I never use poles. One reason: they turn walking into a sport, unneccessarily complicating something beautifully simple.
I've been putting my hand up through the strap for 20 years. In the video you can see how this puts a side load on the CMC joints at the base of the thumb. My cartilage is worn out and I'm experiencing painful arthritis. My hand specialist calls it skier's thumb. Now I just put my fingers and mid-hand through the straps. Wear and tear is hard to avoid in life...
My 62 year old knees can't descend without moving my hips side to side as if I am creating a mini 'switchback' on the trail in descent. This pushes my weight vertical to some imagined horizontal plane and I use my poles to help stabilize my descent on that imagined plane. This isn't quite as slow as you would think, but it does decrease knee pain considerably at the day's end. Final advice: "Don't Fall". Yeah... "Don't Fall"...
Thank you for the advice.
Would you please tell us the name of the sun hoody you are using?