I stand with Jimmy on all this, keep drifting fun. Seeing 10-15 yo D1GP footage with 4-500hp cars looks way more fun than modern competitions. More variety, let's personality shine more.
@@calebprescott9822i dont necessarily think the judging is always right but i’ve never been one to spam a livestream chat because lmao, these weirdos spend more time typing than actually watching its bizzare
FD America judging is terrible!!! FD Japan judging and explaining of what they are looking for is top notch! Now the drivers aren't as good of you ask me, but that's a personal preference. @@calebprescott9822
"As soon as the sim kids can afford drift cars, we're all screwed" I'm not a child, just a broke adult with a dream, if my skills in the sim transfer to irl, I'm going to be a problem.
@@chelseadenofa ive noticed the same thing and its absolutely wild. and its only on transitions, im just left thinking "well my car doesnt do that IRL"
Drifted for 7 years but been out of it for almost 4 years now after starting a family. This video gave me goosebumps just taking me back to all the memories and the feeling drifting gives you. All up in the feels 😢
The very core of drifting is really just to have fun, I think every single fan thought at some point that all they wanted to do from now on was to become a pro driver, I sure did. But now I look at drifting the same way I’d look at surfing, I just want to take my board, catch some good waves with the bros and enjoy it
FD's biggest problem is actually geographical. Japan and European events are so much closer to each other that it drastically reduces operating costs for teams. It's not just the distance of the travel, but the time, and these smaller countries with events so much closer together can achieve such better levels of driving as events are far less of a commitment, but also are far more affordable. This helps to allow the skill to boil to the top over the budget. It's still expensive, but the biggest cost of FD is hauling a team around the country, feeding and housing them, only to get a single 23 second run and go home. Subsidizing travel costs for teams is a great partial step, but breaking the series up to more of an allstar format with the 4 corners of north america would feed a great final battle and may also drag in more Canadian and Mexican competitors, while making the skill pool from the US boil the true talent to the top at a lower cost. This all should help in making the entertainment of FD better, and improving it's current damaged reputation. As for a spec series, tire sizes should be down in the 225 range to really bring the power levels down. 265 is unreasonable and bigger than the current ProSpec tire. Currently ProSpec is so close to Pro that it's hard for fans to even differentiate them, and competitors are now double dipping as a strategy because they're basically the same series from a technical perspective.
@@chelseadenofa for a car thats not set up for drag, not running 1500 hp and you arent running some big meat larry hoovers, anything faster than a 10 is damn good imo.
More of this Chels, This was a great video. I have a question for you, how would you grow the sport? I am almost 60 and drifting has gown to be one of my favorite motor sports to watch.
I've talked to a lot of Sim drivers who never plan to build a real car. It's too expensive, and in some cases they're in areas that don't even have a track close enough to them to drive to.
Yeah I'm one of those. It's too expensive. I got a wife and kids and can't justify that investment. I got a full Moza rig with a R16 and VR. I dont have to pay for tires or repairs, and I can drive any track in the world any time I want. I probably have more seat time than some of these pros, well over 3000 hours. Don't get me wrong tho... I would do it for real if I could, but when I'm on the sim getting doors with the boys I guarantee I'm having just as much fun.
@@gitrekt-gudson oh for sure. My journey was actually Sim >IRL> back to Sim. It's really expensive, and my track is only 2.5 hours away. It requires a lot of seat time to be good enough to have fun IRL.
I could probably afford to have a real car if i sold a few of my cars. But it'd only last a certain amount of time where i could afford to run it. My sim i can get on when ever and not have to worry.
Anymore I'm under the impression that unless you have a track very close by than drifting is definitely a "good ole' boy" sport. Less kids that live in a highly populated areas and more wealthy blue collar families that have a garage truck and trailer. Basically motocross families. I don't think the sim kids are ever going to be able to afford a home let alone a drift car, truck and trailer, tools, and tires.
Dope idea Chelsea, way to enrichen the drift culture by showing an inside look at what is truly rewarding about sliding a car sideways. I think the American drift scene still has a lot of room to grow if people can relate to the driver's like this on a grassroots level.
hey from Dublin . i really enjoy your take on drifting culture Chelsea . your doing our sport a solid with this content . when i started watching drifting at Mondello 20 years ago , i came for the smoke and fast cars . im still loving our sport because of the PIT CULTURE and general friendship of our sport . we all help each other , were all here to have fun . keep this content up about the culture im enjoying your content as much as your diving . be safe
FD needs to start a scout program. Get involved in finding BIG sponsors who want to invest in a driver. THAT will change the sport forever. Drivers are doing way too much work all around.
Jeff Jones' point around 13 minutes in about keeping it simple takes me back to Adam LZ's Legends car experiment... that would be a super inexpensive way for people to get into drifting. Cheap cars, a suspension kit could be a spec setup, spec tires, just find a way to keep engine modifications under control and you could build one of those for very little money out of your garage. I think a Legends support class would be a hit if it could be worked out.
After modeling and my first ride along I was hooked. First thing everyone said was it’s expensive 😂😅 not wrong… work hard, play hard… now I’m dialing in my Z and modeling with RaceTreads! Time for a SIM tho!
There were some interesting answers around the future of drifting with the specs/cars, but take that and merge it with something like WRC, or F1, where you go around the world and have 32 drivers and a top 32 bracket. Use the seeding bracket from FD and the event style of Drift Masters/ Mad Mikes Summerbash
Super good video, very excited to see the progression of the sport over the next few years and would love for you to circle these questions back again. I feel as if we may be on the brink of a monumental shift within the competitive space!
I truly believe TJ just highlighted that he’s somewhat of a culture vulture. Kudos to the drifters aiming to compete and excel at a professional level. It's admirable to see such passion and dedication in the drifting community, as it drives the sport forward and inspires others to elevate their skills.
I disagree, he is the odd man out because he is fairly new to the sport and could do anything he wants, but chooses to do the right things with drifting IMO
@@chelseadenofa ahh I guess it’s fairly low effort for a lot of us to get out there. Dont over think it or over complicate it thinking you have to have the top tier stuff.
Sure isn't what it was 15 years ago. You could get tires from shops and pick n pulls for CHEAP. Not anymore. Need sponsors just to get a little seat time.
@@chelseadenofa Well.. that sucks to hear. The e46 compact build shall continue on in that case. Thanks for the reply bro. 🙏🏾 If all goes well with the parts I'm making, I'm hoping to send you a 'light-weight' care package for your 46 ti in the near future, with love from the U.K ❤
Bad take on tj’s part drifting can be WAY cheaper than spec racing / time attack. You do not need a truck and trailer. Tires on a low power car last forever and are cheap… and a stock power drift car should not be breaking all the time
Personally I feel like drifting needs to look at dirt track racing for comp rules for lower teirs than FD. Spec engine classes and spec tire classes for lower classes then FD is full dick big tire, big power, tube chassis
@@chelseadenofa no disrespect to jeff at all. Just crazy info to learn lol, makes me wonder whats so different about his setup compared to other drivers
I mean they are killing it from a driver and business mindset. Sure maybe they aren’t drifters as we know it, but they’re for sure growing the sport one way or another.
@@chelseadenofa Yeah, totally agree with you. They have a plan and a vision and drive, that's respectable. It's just a shame they can't put that young angst aside and be a bit more relatable. It would make following their story as a fan much easier. Enjoyed the video, cheers.
@@chelseadenofa Gotcha I can see how on a competitive level extra pieces means extra time to fix something quick and dirty. Sort of like snapping a corvette axle it seems
Personal opinion based off the video. Brandon Sorenson has got an ego and gives douche vibes. Im sure hes chill but looked full of himself in this. Amanda on the otherhand seems genuine and DTE
He’s young and very confident. Also has no reason not to be that way. I found humor in how simple and to the facts his answer was. He doesn’t filter anything haha
Chelsea is a real ambassador of the sport, thank you for providing insights and different opinions. I would love to see you cover different regions of drifting as you did in japan. I'm sure you have a big european audience aswell. I would love to see a dicussion about the different aspects of european and american drifting (Styles, Competition, cars, etc.)
TJ mentioning essentially spec drifting is a neat concept. Like spec Miata drifting or some other platform that everyone has and power and tires are regulated would be interesting.
Spec classes would be a good way to let the cream rise, and then you still have semi-unlimited events like FD and plain fun gatherings like LZ's world tour. More exposure out there in the real world is the key to fan-based growth and more big sponsorships for the pros. Thx Chelsea for all the interesting interviews!
More expensive than Spec racing or TT and tires are cheaper? Uh.... I mean, it's definitely possible for full-blown FD, but spec Miata for instance is crazy expensive and 200tw tires or slicks are way more expensive than a Nitto 555. Seemed like was comparing it to the cost of a grassroots drift car.
You and Jimmy have amazing synergy. I 100% agree with TJ and Odi that drifting needs a spec format. The B48TU spec platform would be awesome for older 90's chassis.
Ive thought a lot about how a spec series could be awesome, but Odi talking about sealed engine is fantastic! Sealed engine spec tire series would be fun to watch and really get down to driver skill.
I stand with Jimmy on all this, keep drifting fun. Seeing 10-15 yo D1GP footage with 4-500hp cars looks way more fun than modern competitions. More variety, let's personality shine more.
And with less horsepower / tyre, you can see the chase vehicle too!
This is why the grass roots events are so much better to watch, especially from a RUclips point of view!
Crazy how the drivers are so wholesome but when you look at the FD chat the fanbase seems so toxic
They’re mostly all younger and that’s all they see on social media so they repeat it until it gets progressively worse.
The toxic ones aren't true fans. Especially the ones who complain non stop about judging.
Could be because FD has shit format and judging, it is aimed at the normie
@@calebprescott9822i dont necessarily think the judging is always right but i’ve never been one to spam a livestream chat because lmao, these weirdos spend more time typing than actually watching its bizzare
FD America judging is terrible!!! FD Japan judging and explaining of what they are looking for is top notch! Now the drivers aren't as good of you ask me, but that's a personal preference. @@calebprescott9822
"As soon as the sim kids can afford drift cars, we're all screwed"
I'm not a child, just a broke adult with a dream, if my skills in the sim transfer to irl, I'm going to be a problem.
It transfers pretty well from what I've seen after even a handful of runs.
From experience, I can assure you it translates over
It doesn’t translate the other way. I can’t link any turns in a sim
@@chelseadenofa I guess I'll never be able to grab some virtual doors with you and will have to hopefully settle with some irl doors someday.
@@chelseadenofa ive noticed the same thing and its absolutely wild. and its only on transitions, im just left thinking "well my car doesnt do that IRL"
Imagine a FD World Cup. The best drivers from each country competing for the world title, the ultimate bragging title
Just like D1GP used to do back in the day. They’d get drivers and their cars from all over the world and put them head to head
Basically what DMEC is growing into.
@@peterlammerts8725 now its dmgp(grand prix) so its mostly there, lots of drivers from all over the world. Its cool to see the sport evolving.
Ironically there was back in the day, and i believe fink won. Competed against vau too from memory.
With 450 hp Max cars. No new car chassis. 2010 and under only model years.
Drifted for 7 years but been out of it for almost 4 years now after starting a family. This video gave me goosebumps just taking me back to all the memories and the feeling drifting gives you. All up in the feels 😢
The very core of drifting is really just to have fun, I think every single fan thought at some point that all they wanted to do from now on was to become a pro driver, I sure did. But now I look at drifting the same way I’d look at surfing, I just want to take my board, catch some good waves with the bros and enjoy it
FD's biggest problem is actually geographical. Japan and European events are so much closer to each other that it drastically reduces operating costs for teams. It's not just the distance of the travel, but the time, and these smaller countries with events so much closer together can achieve such better levels of driving as events are far less of a commitment, but also are far more affordable. This helps to allow the skill to boil to the top over the budget. It's still expensive, but the biggest cost of FD is hauling a team around the country, feeding and housing them, only to get a single 23 second run and go home.
Subsidizing travel costs for teams is a great partial step, but breaking the series up to more of an allstar format with the 4 corners of north america would feed a great final battle and may also drag in more Canadian and Mexican competitors, while making the skill pool from the US boil the true talent to the top at a lower cost. This all should help in making the entertainment of FD better, and improving it's current damaged reputation.
As for a spec series, tire sizes should be down in the 225 range to really bring the power levels down. 265 is unreasonable and bigger than the current ProSpec tire. Currently ProSpec is so close to Pro that it's hard for fans to even differentiate them, and competitors are now double dipping as a strategy because they're basically the same series from a technical perspective.
2 things from this video: Odi is on a higher level than everyone else. And Rome is my new favorite driver. 😄
Rome is just as wholesome in person.
"in drift these cars would run like a 10 sec 1/4 mile" Now I need to see a drift drag race on a long sweeper
Chelsea and Vaughn ran their cars down the strip. I think the video is on chelseas or vaughns channel.
No chance.
You say this. But the low angle speed is crazy, my car ran a 9.50 @150 without nitrous… probably good for an 8.50 on the bottle
@@chelseadenofa for a car thats not set up for drag, not running 1500 hp and you arent running some big meat larry hoovers, anything faster than a 10 is damn good imo.
Chelsea is the GOAT. Such a fantastic role model and supporter of the sport. Keep being you bro!!
Wish you asked “what do you think is holding you back from standing on the podium” for the drivers still looking for their firsts
Good question
More of this Chels, This was a great video. I have a question for you, how would you grow the sport? I am almost 60 and drifting has gown to be one of my favorite motor sports to watch.
I’ll touch on this in a video soon
I've talked to a lot of Sim drivers who never plan to build a real car. It's too expensive, and in some cases they're in areas that don't even have a track close enough to them to drive to.
Where i live the closest track is all the way across my state I would love to do this stuff but im not into roadtripping 4 hours to drive for 3
Yeah I'm one of those. It's too expensive. I got a wife and kids and can't justify that investment. I got a full Moza rig with a R16 and VR. I dont have to pay for tires or repairs, and I can drive any track in the world any time I want. I probably have more seat time than some of these pros, well over 3000 hours.
Don't get me wrong tho... I would do it for real if I could, but when I'm on the sim getting doors with the boys I guarantee I'm having just as much fun.
@@gitrekt-gudson oh for sure. My journey was actually Sim >IRL> back to Sim. It's really expensive, and my track is only 2.5 hours away. It requires a lot of seat time to be good enough to have fun IRL.
I could probably afford to have a real car if i sold a few of my cars. But it'd only last a certain amount of time where i could afford to run it. My sim i can get on when ever and not have to worry.
Anymore I'm under the impression that unless you have a track very close by than drifting is definitely a "good ole' boy" sport.
Less kids that live in a highly populated areas and more wealthy blue collar families that have a garage truck and trailer. Basically motocross families.
I don't think the sim kids are ever going to be able to afford a home let alone a drift car, truck and trailer, tools, and tires.
I think every event should start with Matt field vs a Sorensen. It just feels like the quickest option to get them out of FD
they came across as such corporate entities in this video it's unreal
Dope idea Chelsea, way to enrichen the drift culture by showing an inside look at what is truly rewarding about sliding a car sideways. I think the American drift scene still has a lot of room to grow if people can relate to the driver's like this on a grassroots level.
Tj and Chelsea are such great friends of Adam the way they interviewed while he was out there winning lol
hey from Dublin .
i really enjoy your take on drifting culture Chelsea . your doing our sport a solid with this content .
when i started watching drifting at Mondello 20 years ago , i came for the smoke and fast cars . im still loving our sport because of the PIT CULTURE and general friendship of our sport . we all help each other , were all here to have fun .
keep this content up about the culture im enjoying your content as much as your diving .
be safe
FD needs to start a scout program. Get involved in finding BIG sponsors who want to invest in a driver. THAT will change the sport forever. Drivers are doing way too much work all around.
Jeff Jones' point around 13 minutes in about keeping it simple takes me back to Adam LZ's Legends car experiment... that would be a super inexpensive way for people to get into drifting. Cheap cars, a suspension kit could be a spec setup, spec tires, just find a way to keep engine modifications under control and you could build one of those for very little money out of your garage. I think a Legends support class would be a hit if it could be worked out.
@@thetruestein2530 “legends of drift” has a ring to it
Great video, love the jumping between drivers and getting people on that I don't really ever see.
Ill translate and react this video for our Brazilian drift community. Good content again Denofa
Chelsea’s yt becoming one of my favorites
That sealed motor series 👌🏾
After modeling and my first ride along I was hooked. First thing everyone said was it’s expensive 😂😅 not wrong… work hard, play hard… now I’m dialing in my Z and modeling with RaceTreads! Time for a SIM tho!
There were some interesting answers around the future of drifting with the specs/cars, but take that and merge it with something like WRC, or F1, where you go around the world and have 32 drivers and a top 32 bracket. Use the seeding bracket from FD and the event style of Drift Masters/ Mad Mikes Summerbash
Thanks for this CD! Putting out truly quality videos.
Super good video, very excited to see the progression of the sport over the next few years and would love for you to circle these questions back again. I feel as if we may be on the brink of a monumental shift within the competitive space!
I feel like @adamLZ will benefit his businesses heavily off this video... cause this is gold af ...
Seeing this episode is great to see how pro drifter’s whole perspective on drifting 🤙👍
I don’t like the spec idea of identical cars. I love that folks can bring any weapon of choice! The variety is awesome.
I agree with this
Love this. Need more of this
Chelsea side eye on the mid-engine comment hahaha
I’m pretty sure that was a compliment from Kyle, the same way Rome talked about driving with legends. I love how supportive the community is
@@Charlie-Charlot Just because Chelsea has his 718 lol
Amanda calling herself an athlete almost made me fall outta my chair 😂😂😂😂
really love the video concept man! Keep it up!
I wish there was more chassis. To many of the same car.
I hope you get that Porsche in FD pro
Rome is such a good dude
Good video! Keep fun and interesting content coming champ!
Damn Chelsea asking the good questions
4:00 as a sim kid i hope i can some day afford to do it irl and hopefully actually compete and win
crate motors / smaller spec tyres.. happy days for the non-pros.. and the pros will still want to join in too
I loved this video. Really cool video idea sir.
This video was fucking awesome, need more of this
right in the feels!
good interview! interesting questions!
Denofa ,you get go back dude!
Denofa 2025
Looking great, keep up the good work !
5:03 That Head Nod Was Directed At Matt Fields I Guarantee It lol
Edit: I Totally Forgot You Built That Mid Engine Porsche 😅
Why no interview with stuke? 😂
I truly believe TJ just highlighted that he’s somewhat of a culture vulture. Kudos to the drifters aiming to compete and excel at a professional level. It's admirable to see such passion and dedication in the drifting community, as it drives the sport forward and inspires others to elevate their skills.
Love the video, but yeah, TJ seems like a knob putting him in between the real ones
I disagree, he is the odd man out because he is fairly new to the sport and could do anything he wants, but chooses to do the right things with drifting IMO
i like this style of video
i love this video!! Good stuff!!
Hope to see more improvments on fd competitions
I love this video!!!
Love this type of content
Please insert a clip of Chelsea > DOOR'NG ....EVERY ONE IN NOTCH.
Enjoyed that
19:38, ooof felt that one, poor Chelsea.
What do you mean?
Fair enough.
Good driver > good RUclipsr
Finances say different
Chelsea whyyyyyy!!!!! Why did you say the E82 wouldn’t work? We’re balls deep in a build - should we just buy an E36 shell??? 😂
Yes…
would be cool to see BMW support someone like Rome in the same way Toyota and Ford supports teams
Came from tj video trying to see if they made the cut in the background of jimmy 😂
Jimmy is a way bigger dude than I thought.
It’s the angle too. But yea he’s tall haha
Please Kyle Mohan build an fd for fd
Chelsea! You lost so much weight and you’re looking so good when i saw you in jersey!
I weigh the same haha. Camera adds weight I guess
TJ hunt is so off. In Georgia there’s a drift event almost every weekend and very easy to get seat time
He means how much effort it takes…
@@chelseadenofa ahh I guess it’s fairly low effort for a lot of us to get out there. Dont over think it or over complicate it thinking you have to have the top tier stuff.
Sure isn't what it was 15 years ago. You could get tires from shops and pick n pulls for CHEAP. Not anymore. Need sponsors just to get a little seat time.
What's the issue with the 1 series chassis???
I want(ed) to build one... Damn😯
It's just an small e92, right?
Nope. They also have the same 5 link rear that’s more side bite based and expensive to maintain.0
@@chelseadenofa Well.. that sucks to hear. The e46 compact build shall continue on in that case. Thanks for the reply bro. 🙏🏾
If all goes well with the parts I'm making, I'm hoping to send you a 'light-weight' care package for your 46 ti in the near future, with love from the U.K ❤
Bad take on tj’s part drifting can be WAY cheaper than spec racing / time attack. You do not need a truck and trailer. Tires on a low power car last forever and are cheap… and a stock power drift car should not be breaking all the time
Yea my thought is he meant going to the track in your street car and turning laps VS towing your drift car. Consumables and things required for each
Matt Field on point let the Pros have all the steroids lol!!!
w vid
Amanda is wise beyond her years. Very impressed.
Personally I feel like drifting needs to look at dirt track racing for comp rules for lower teirs than FD.
Spec engine classes and spec tire classes for lower classes then FD is full dick big tire, big power, tube chassis
Kyle Mohan sounds like a Kyle lol
insane how jeff said he's only used 70% throttle. what, you scared bro?
Just can’t put the power down. Probably already on limiter at 70%
@@chelseadenofa no disrespect to jeff at all.
Just crazy info to learn lol, makes me wonder whats so different about his setup compared to other drivers
Gosh the Sorenson's come accross as the most unlikeable people on camera.
I mean they are killing it from a driver and business mindset. Sure maybe they aren’t drifters as we know it, but they’re for sure growing the sport one way or another.
@@chelseadenofa Yeah, totally agree with you. They have a plan and a vision and drive, that's respectable. It's just a shame they can't put that young angst aside and be a bit more relatable. It would make following their story as a fan much easier. Enjoyed the video, cheers.
wait, why is 5-link rear suspension garbage? asking for a friend... not me who just modified a 128i
Just for drifting it’s not ideal. Strength, fix speed, and geometry.
@@chelseadenofa Gotcha I can see how on a competitive level extra pieces means extra time to fix something quick and dirty. Sort of like snapping a corvette axle it seems
Personal opinion based off the video. Brandon Sorenson has got an ego and gives douche vibes. Im sure hes chill but looked full of himself in this. Amanda on the otherhand seems genuine and DTE
He’s young and very confident. Also has no reason not to be that way. I found humor in how simple and to the facts his answer was. He doesn’t filter anything haha
That chick weird, relax its not so serious
Chelsea is a real ambassador of the sport, thank you for providing insights and different opinions.
I would love to see you cover different regions of drifting as you did in japan. I'm sure you have a big european audience aswell.
I would love to see a dicussion about the different aspects of european and american drifting (Styles, Competition, cars, etc.)
TJ mentioning essentially spec drifting is a neat concept. Like spec Miata drifting or some other platform that everyone has and power and tires are regulated would be interesting.
Vaughns comment on IG “the guy blowing engines left and right” wanting a spec engine was freakin hilarious 😂
First thing i thought about when rome said everyone getting along. hahaha
Man I want to see Kyle Mohan excel. That RX8 deserves some decent competition time!
That was good, but woulda been better with the names of the drivers too.
Thanks
Spec classes would be a good way to let the cream rise, and then you still have semi-unlimited events like FD and plain fun gatherings like LZ's world tour. More exposure out there in the real world is the key to fan-based growth and more big sponsorships for the pros. Thx Chelsea for all the interesting interviews!
Can somebody sponsor Jeff Jones a new Fire Suite, plz...
No mention of packing the trailer? Some seem to go there just for that.
Such a good video!
#CommentForTheAlgorithm
More expensive than Spec racing or TT and tires are cheaper? Uh.... I mean, it's definitely possible for full-blown FD, but spec Miata for instance is crazy expensive and 200tw tires or slicks are way more expensive than a Nitto 555. Seemed like was comparing it to the cost of a grassroots drift car.
love this type of video, it puts personality to the driver's similar to F1, if netflix were to get involved with FD the growth would be crazy
You and Jimmy have amazing synergy. I 100% agree with TJ and Odi that drifting needs a spec format. The B48TU spec platform would be awesome for older 90's chassis.
Love this type of videos!
Another banger of a video! Thank you chelsea for all you do for this amazing community!!
Ive thought a lot about how a spec series could be awesome, but Odi talking about sealed engine is fantastic! Sealed engine spec tire series would be fun to watch and really get down to driver skill.
that Air Force drivers are ACTUALLY........ well... young..... :)
ayye was there for Englishtown FD got merch and a autograph from you your a legend bro thanks
really cool video, it would be nice to do like the "shop tour" but with all the FD drivers. pro and prospec
what a great video , not surprised more people are intrigued by the idea of baseline (even ) competition somewhere in the mix
Great vid, like the format Chelsea, looking slick 💯
Denofa doing gods work.