Sharpening With Steel Honing Plates & Diamond Paste
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- Опубликовано: 23 сен 2022
- A comparison of steel lapping plates & diamond paste to sharpening with water stones and some tips for getting the most out of the former.
Some pertinent notes from the video:
The honing plates are from Veritas Tools and is about $28US as of the making of this video.
The paste I use is from Amazon and is 40, 14, and .5 micron and about $7 per tube as of the making of this video.
I use the Veritas MkII honing guides with the flat roller paired with the narrow blade head, and the cambered roller paired with the wide blade head, most of the time.
I sharpen all of my bench chisels and standard plane blades at 30 degrees. All of my paring chisels are at 25 degrees. 
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I like your disclaimer. I've arrived at how I want to sharpen, I just want to be better at it. That's it. I need sharp tools, it's not a competition. Thanks for a great video! I've subbed!
Thanks RC for the good information. Well presented and useful.
Glad you liked it
Happy to see this! Long time insta sub. Thanks for taking the plunge
Thanks!
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Awesome video!!!!
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Thanks for this video. I had no idea this existed.
My Chinese eBay thin diamond plates are starting to get too worn down so will give this a try.
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Interesting way to sharpen
Interesting
Using the paper towels to clean the plate with higher grit first before cleaning the lower grit goes towards mitigation against cross contamination.
I am wondering if these veritas lapping plates could be used with a lapping powder like the veritas lapping grit that they would usually use on glass. As long as you used a rust proofing agent in your lubricant of course, like a honerite.
Awesome, if there was anyone on insta I would want to learn from............ your work is so beautiful 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I appreciate that!
Seems like you'd get 4 "sides" from ea plate. 2nd "side": rotate end for end keeping same face up. 3rd: flip plate. 4th: rotate keeping 2nd face up.
Never seen this system before.
Super happy to see you bringing videos to YT now!
BTW: Where did you find the simple cross back apron. I had a ‘dye disaster’ occur on mine and looking for a new one (I’ll only finish and work raw green lumber in the former going forward). Again, thanks for making content; we all have much to learn and share.
My apron is a cheap Bucket Boss apron that I hot rodded with my own leather straps. It served me well enough for quite a few years but it's wearing through now. I just ordered a custom one from Texas Heritage Woodworks that I'll transfer my straps over to.
@@themountaintopjoinersshop8422 Oooooo ❤️ I’m busy feeding my serotonin by resisting and succeeding and resisting and succeeding and resisting and succeeding… buying anything too crazy as I save up for a new ‘forever bandsaw’ 🤣. I have thought about asking for a TH apron before for Christmas maybe, but I think the girls have already ordered 200 bdft of cherry and quarter sawn oak for my Christmas this year ❤️ So maybe Father’s Day 🤣. Thanks for the response brother.
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Hey! Thanks!
I wish I would have seen this before, I waste tons of money buying knives.😂. Thanks!
Thanks for the video. I was considering this for initial lapping of chisel backs. (Thinking, this way I won't wear out a 140 Atoma, cause I can reapply paste as needed). Have you tried something like that with the 40 micron paste?
I haven't, though I think I'd only use 40 micron to flatten chisel backs if the backs were just a little bit out of flat. If you try it, let me know how it goes.
Hi. Thanks for sharing your setup. Do you hone on a secondary bevel (eg grind a primary on the grinder and hone a little higher), or do your blades just have one single bevel? Thanks
I do the former. If I honed freehand, I'd probably try the latter though.
What are the grit ranges should I be looking for? Amazon has several options, and they all widely vary when equating to microns.
The stuff I buy is a brand called Temo and the microns are listed on their Amazon listings.
Brilliant! I fixed a friends cv axle and he insist on giving me something. I had him order 3 of these from Lee Valley. Does the diamond chew up the brass roller on the guide?
I try not to roll it onto the diamond paste and clean off the roller regularly for that reason, and doing that, it hasn't affected the rollers in any significant way as far as I can tell.
@@themountaintopjoinersshop8422 cool. Thx
Interesting, I didn't know about this system. I'm fairly happy with my double sided diamond plate (Sharpall, fairly cheap) since it's compact and comes with a holder, so it's easy to take with me or have next to me on the bench. It works better with some water or window cleaner, but it works fine dry as well, which adds to the convenience. The swarf does need to be cleaned out though (I take it to a sink and use soap).
How expensive is that paste? Does it work out to a few cents per sharpening?
Here's an idea for when those plates dish out: couldn't you rub a dished plate against a flat plate (like the back of the other plate) with some rough paste to flatten it again? Or would that be too much hassle?
Thanks!
I did a little figuring and the paste works out to less than 3¢ per sharpening. Flattening the plates is way more work than I'd want to do.
I've seen a youtube video, were I guy charged his honing plate with a water stone. Have you tried this? You think it would work?
I have not tried that (I don't own any waterstones), so I can't say if that would work or not. Sounds like it would be messy and not as convenient as using them the way they were designed.
i wish i watched this video before ordering a $250. triple diamond stone system from M Power. What are your views on leather strops? Keep up the awesome work!!!
I tried stropping, but if you get carried away, which is easy to do when you're lazy about sharpening, you end up with a dubbed (rounded over) edge that's even more a pain to sharpen again than a blade that's merely dull. That was my experience anyway.
@@themountaintopjoinersshop8422 thank you sir!!!
@@themountaintopjoinersshop8422 Yep, that is a common problem for those of us that are lazy sharpeners. Like Ron, I use the M Power set. Great thing with that setup is the leather strops for each stone. Wipe the blade and Veritas guide clean and give the blade a few swipes on each and you get an atom splitting sharp edge without the round over.
Do you reapply paste every sharpening?
No, more like every third or fourth. It actually starts to feel different while sharpening when it gets gummed up with swarf, at which point I wipe the plates clean and re-apply.
@@themountaintopjoinersshop8422 thx
I am wondering if you have ever seen Rob Cosman's 32 seconds to sharp video using a Trend diamond plate and a Shapton ceramic stone.or Stumpy Nubs cool tools video where he talks about CBN plates for sharpening at a much lower cost than diamond plates or ceramic stones. I'm not advocating that you change your method since you have supplies that will last you for several years.
I've dabbled with diamond plates a bit and didn't love them, especially once they got gummed up with swarf. The honing plates couldn't be easier to clean.
0.5 micron paste certainly isn't for sharpening as it's equivalent to 45,000 grit sandpaper which if anything is just mirror finishing grit, the 14 micron I can understand but even then that's about 1,300 grit which isn't a sharpening more of a honing grit.
These were the grits recommended by Tools For Working Wood some 15 odd years ago, and all I know from using them all that time is that they work beautifully, so I choose not to overthink it.
It is to bad your volume is so low
I've tried listening on four different mobile devices plus one computer and one TV and have been able to turn the volume up enough to hear it on all of them comfortably. That said, the volume levels are higher on my later videos.