Harassed For Going UNDER The Speed Limit
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“He’s in a rental car with bags.”
No way, people in rental cars have luggage. Who woulda thunk.
And driving carefully in a car that isn't his and there is snow? That's crazy
Knowing and asserting your rights means your car is full of Coke and meth. Big brain policing
Drugs smugglers are known to use rental cars
@@YOURDADSDILDO
So are countless other people.
@@icecold9511 and he's black
Making him stand in the cold to coerce him to "consent" is a form of torture.
Absolutely. That’s why he did it.
Only if you're a snowflake. Get a grip and read some accounts of actual torture. Imagine yourself saying that to someone who was in a POW camp. Pathetic
@@bbbb98765 🤡🤡🤡
This cop better hope he never sees me in a jury.
@@DanEvens-tb1tg With that attitude, you would be removed during jury selection anyway.
"He didnt want to be interrogated so I made him wait in the cold and then threatened to make him wait for a dog" this guy had his rights absolutely trampled on. Yikes
remember..... "he doesn't wanna coerce him" lol
That cop is trying to manufacture reasonable articulable suspicion. We don’t have to tell cops where we’re going or where we’re coming from.
Its cops like him that just shows how they can go after anyone who they think is a criminal and the actual criminals keep getting away with it. Its no wonder the crime rate has gotten so worse in this country.
you dont ever have to answer any of their questions, inquiry , chit chat, harassment or whatever these clowns do!!! The first thing out of this pig mouth is that he is not cooperating and he doesnt have to so what exactly is the problem. Never give them permission to search your vehicle and demand them go get a search warrant ...
"officer discretion" is a powerful tool for unethical cops
"I don't consent to any searches, seizures, or questions. If I am not under arrest at this time, let me leave. Direct any and all further inquiries to my attorney, I have no further comment at this time."
And then shut your mouth *and keep it shut* until the cop lets you leave OR you speak to your attorney.
I got stopped by the US Secret Service Uniformed Division while in DC on a protest. I was stopped because I was from Colorado, driving a big Ram 4x4 with an NRA sticker on the back window. The Agent's official reason was that I didn't have a valid registration sticker on my license plate, and he was correct. I had forgotten to put the sticker on.
When one of the agents asked if I had any guns in my truck I responded with, "No disrespect intended, but as a matter of policy I can't answer any of your questions.". He says, "Policy...?". I said, "Yeah... It's just policy.... You know how it is...." lol.
I got a ticket (Which I still have for bragging rights) but the agents didn't file the ticket. When I didn't get anything in the mail I called the DC court. They had to open the case in order to dismiss it, and it was closed.
NEVER, NEVER give permission for a cop to search your car!!! You don't know how corrupt a cop may be and you can get one who plants "evidence" in your car!
The k-9 unit is also corrupt. Lose lose situation.
Not long ago, A Florida Deputy was recorded planting Drugs and Drug paraphernalia and sentenced to 12 years.
They had to review and release every person he had arrested for Drug possession while doing a traffic stop.
So it's not beyond the realm of possibility.
And not the first and certainly won't be the last corrupt cop arrested for this
@Salty Pureblood No permission at least gives a chance at using the "illegally extended stop" argument in court successfully. If you consent for any reason, that's gone...even if they plant. It's hard to imagine a scenario where consenting to search is a good idea. And given the asymmetric nature of these encounters all around (monopoly on violence, no accountability for civil or even criminal actions by police, legal authority to lie to you while you're charged for reverse, etc), the most they can/should expect is the citizen politely declining interaction and then doing/saying nothing other than occasionally reaffirming that they're illegally detained.
Absolutely they will plant something. Look up deputy Zachary wester. This POS would lie about a traffic violation and ask to search. For months there was not one car he searched that he didn’t “find” drugs in. And on about 90% of those stop he would say that he “smelled marijuana” but he seemed to always find meth. 128 cases that he was involved with got dropped a few weeks after his arrest. People lost their jobs, cars, houses, marriages…one guy had just gotten custody of his daughter and he lost her because of this deputy. It makes me sick to just look at him. But he’s not the only one…there are dirty pigs all over this country.
ABSOLUTELY!!
This is one of the most uncomfortable ones I've ever seen. This is exactly what this whole auditor scene is essential for. You cannot treat people like this and expect back trust and respect
watch the Orginal video. Ata did it again and didn't cover so many things that were pretty relavent for the audiance to know.
The cop absolutley Trashed the inside of his car looking through things when asked not to,
The officer in question Complained to his partner that there were no pending chrages,
as well as racially profiling him by refeering to his look and face tattoos as he shows the Drivers lisnces to his partner and other remarks.
AtA has skipped over details like this before on many videos and as much as i agree with you i would also watch either the orginal or other Auditors covers on the video and hope to see congruency
Absolutely.
@@jasonbuckley4118 Correct.
Traffic police are 99% of the problem and give other officers a bad name. They go after low-hanging fruit, victimless crimes, most the time, the cops have to break the same damn laws they're trying to enforce. They are nothing but Hypocrites, Authoritative bullying jerks. The cops get a feather in their cap if they can get us for speeding, drugs or paraphernalia in the car, or any other simple infraction, that's all they seek so they can get their promotion. Traffic Nazis at best. 😮
Bingo
The fact that there’s snow on the ground and he’s under the speed limit isn’t suspicious.
Driving in snowy conditions 5 miles under the speed limit to avoid a accident while black
@@gregorypollard5908Lmao for real!
@@gregorypollard5908 if you’ve spent even an hour watching other videos on this channel will show you these cops treat EVERYONE like garbage and stomp on our rights no matter color, or even age!!!! I watched a video where a cop arrested an EIGHTY year old WHITE woman for a “DUI” bc she was confused. Her son came as she was getting arrested and explained she had a stroke, she’s on blood pressure meds, and other meds, and that he would drive her home. They did eventually let her go home with the son after they made him call his supervisor. But had the son not showed up, that cop had full intention of booking her in jail for a DUI, even though he smelled no alcohol or anything on her. It was unreal the way he not only treated her, but the way he spoke to this old woman was horrendous. Sorry for the rant-but it’s really hard to see comments like yours basically inferring that the one and only reason he was treated like this was because he’s black, bc I can ASSURE you, the cops really truly hate ALL of us civilians and believe they’re above us all. To be quite honest, I’ve seen them treat poor or homeless white ppl worse than any other race. That’s after watching probably 80 hours worth of these videos in the past several months. And there’s many more to still go thru and watch!!!
@@gregorypollard5908 *at night* to boot, that's an aggravating factor
If he had been driving the speed limit, the pig would have pulled him over for dangerous driving..
I’m so shocked the internal investigation found nothing wrong.
Just as shocking how these courts consistantly rule in favor of gov over reach vs our rights.
Sometimes they even admit that our rights are violated "but it's minimal"
It's too much bs that we allow courts to "interpret " something written in English
The asking of a Fox to investigate another fox for being foxy.. lol
There's a fix for that. Have the case go to jury trial, and if the jury finds that the police officer was in the wrong, not only should the police officer face punishment (and dismissal, if the jury thinks it's warranted), whoever approved that behavior should face the same punishment. But for this to work, the PD should not be allowed to settle the case out of court.
Bobby it's no shock to me because these institutions usually Audit themselves and so they would find no wrong doing.😂
It is a rigged system and only every now and then does a cop get the justice they deserve.
I’m a female, Black Veteran and a law-abiding citizen that respect(ed) police officers. I was driving from Texas to Kentucky and was stopped in Arkansas (of course). I had three bags in my back seat and the officer questioned why I needed so much for a week’s vacation! Three bags is a lot?!?
This a**hole made me take my bags out and open them up, had I known then what I know now, that wouldn’t have happened. I grew up wanting to be a cop and admiring/respecting them, sadly that has changed!
I was pulled over for ONE reason and ONE reason only: driving through Arkansas while Black-period. You serve your country honorably, follow the laws of the state and country and are mistreated for absolutely NO reason.
There are people that seem to have a problem with Black people being upset with SO many being killed and mistreated for no reason, but until it stops we will continue saying Black Lives Matter! Let’s be clear, that’s not saying ONLY Black Lives Matter we say it because it’s Black lives being taken.
Until (and I hope it doesn’t happen) other races are killed for no reason, then we MUST bring attention to what is going on. This man has clearly done nothing wrong, but I assure you he’s standing there because of the pigmentation of his skin! Do better!
The man was treated like a criminal for driving properly, not having anything illegal, and going to the gym. This reminds me of the stop where the guy got pulled over because he had an “air freshener” on his rear view mirror. Just no need for all of this
Well driving under the speed limit can be an offense...and is very dangerous to others on the road (depends on the situation, road conditions, etc). So i think its good if people going 10mph or less under the speed limit get a ticket for endangering everyone else
@@MochaZilla If this guy was just given a citation, this video wouldn't be on youtube genius.
@@MochaZilla did you even watch it? It was snowy conditions on the road. So you’re supposed to go a bit slower when road conditions are bad. That’s hardly an offense.
It was a fishing expedition. They are taught to do this. Standing on your rights means "uncooperative" to a cop.
@@MochaZilla He was doing 5-7 under at night time in the winter in Minn. Where's the crime???
This is the problem with some officers, nowhere does it state that I have to tell you where I'm going or coming from. Officers have an ego when you deny them any information or don't let them search. This guy was calm, just annoyed like we all would be.
Never answer questions.
They are literally trained to do this. They tell cops to look for cues for possible illegal activity and believe it or not, invoking your civil rights is a cue. And since they only hire obedient dummies as cops, they follow every order even though it’s unlawful. This is also why they rarely get punished for doing this stuff, because their leadership literally told them to do it.
Some people are intimidated when confronted by police and don’t challenge them.
This cop was hoping for a big payoff civil forfeiture. Greedy pig!
@@gregkasza1925 - that's not good advice, answer questions if necessary and if it's a lawful stop
How forcing him to stand outside in the cold until a drug dog can arrive, which could be an hour or more, is not considered coercion is beyond me. Seems to me like that ABSOLUTELY is coercion.
Asking for consent and then threatening you'll do whatever it takes to search anyway is not informed consent. It's coercion.
Extending a stop to call a dog is unlawful!
The cop made him stand in the cold to coerce him to search the car. Or else make him wait for a dog to show up in the cold.
It's illegal to pull someone over for a mere traffic citation, that would normally take 10 min, to hold that person for 20 min waiting on a dog. Always deny. If they ask y, say you believe in the constitution, and they aren't liable for any damage they cause tearing your property apart looking for something
Yeah, "Or you can sit in the back of my car with the windows down"... What an nass whole.
@@bradleysmith9431 like the cops give a shit.
The female partner just standing there going along with it is just as bad! The gentleman pulled over was top notch.
He was
That's why I couldn't be a cop. The pigs all look out for each other. You can't be a "good" cop or they'll Serpico you.
All complaints about police should be handled by an independant authority, not by an internal police committee or person to ensure that this type of thing is stamped out.
Who's going to staff that committee
I agree with you completely. The internal affairs departments certainly aren’t doing their jobs properly. That money should be used by a city council to create a police accountability department for each jurisdiction. Then the associations who cover for bad cops need to be disbanded, unionized yes, political no. There should be consequences for the good cops who witness bad cops breaking the law and not reporting it. There are too many cop gangs. And from watching these videos, too many either don’t know the law or just push it and claim qualified immunity.
If not, then all punishments and IA investigations should be open to the public.
That's all well and good, however sleeple are fooled by these citizen police accountability boards, when they are no such thing. They never have any power, not even to suspend cops for a day, yet alone terminate anyone. They can only forward concerns to Internal Affairs and DA's who already aren't doing their jobs. More often than not are comprised of people close to local government. They're just feel good committees that in reality do absolutely nothing
This needs to happen ASAP by a rotating vote panel
I live in MN and the minimum speed for 60 is 45 so going 53 is not a justification for stopping him. The real reason is they are profiling him as it happens quite a bit here.
Very true. (I live in Minnesota as well.) Then the pigs ignore the real crime
The FBI and DOJ should investigate this police department for racial profiling.
Apart from this absolutely dumb situation, I honestly wish more people got pulled over going under the speed limit in the left lane here in miami 😂😂😂
As an Iowan, it's strange to hear about police misconduct because we view Minnesota as a progressive state.
progressive cops are just as bad as any other cop lmfao that doesnt mean shit
C-? Are you serious!? He bullied that driver and he was still passed? I think we need to audit the audit audit and teach this dude how to properly grade
Truth This was a F!
It's just an opinion. No need to get so upset.
its still shoddy policing, but it could have been alot worse
Get your own channel then dude.
If you can do better, just go make your own channel. Though I have a feeling that won't work out for you.
Officer: “So I’m not going to cite you for anything -“
Driver: “So that means I’m free to leave, right?”
That’s how the stop should have gone, I feel.
Officer: "That means you're free to stand in the snow until a sniffer dog comes out and we make it bark so we can tear your car apart. Better hope we finish before the hypothermia sets in because if you try to use your phone to call for help we'll say it's a gun and shoot you."
That's how that would have gone, I feel.
'hi im officer bozo ,im tryant with the hot headed police brutally dept "
Their motto should be we want to make a criminal out of everyone we pull over.
No. The stop should have gone:
Officer: "I'm not going to cite you for anything, have a nice evening."
He may have said that just to put the guy at ease as a tactic to get him to slip up and say something incriminating. Cops are allowed to lie, so who knows.
Unfortunately, there have been cases of Police planting evidence, so even if you have "nothing to hide", consenting to search is still dangerous. Especially when it happens under such suspicious circumstances that border with coercion.
Audit the audit did a video on that. The cop planted drugs on multiple people and sent lits of innocent people to jail. He got caught because he forgot to stop recording. So the cop's own gopro showed him planting the drugs. The cop is now serving time in jail. We need to eliminate all drug laws because they're abused.
I talked to a fellow that did 10yrs in prison because a cop wanted his wife (they had began an affair). Cop pulled him over one evening, then asked to search the car. He was a working stiff and had nothing to hide or so he thought. The officer threw a small bag of dope under his car seat then pulled it out saying, "What's this?" He lost his freedom, his home, his job, and his bitch wife all in one evening.
@@robz5435 And let me guess...divorce court fucked him over again after all of that.
I would be petrified they would plant something. The problem is, if you don't consent, they end up arresting you for obstruction. I've always respected the police, and now I feel a different kind of mindset causes a young man or woman to join the force.😢
This! If they illegally search w/o your consent, any evidence they find (or plant) will be inadmissible, so DON’T give consent. 🤷♂️
I would NEVER give consent for a rental car. Who knows what previous renters have done in the car or substances left. I once rented a car and later found 4 or 5 beer cans under the drivers seat. I was a commercial driver at the time and this would have been a life changing situation if I'd have been stopped. Never never never assume that these rental companies give you a pristine cleaned vehicle!
Hell there’s a good chance that I wouldn’t give consent for a search of a car I own.
Especially in a situation like this where it’s obvious that the cop is just fishing.
More likely to find some marijuana in the cracks of the seats.
probably exactly why he wanted to stop him
This is truly the perfect example of profiling someone. Because he looks to be “drug dealer”. The traffic stop ended when the officer said “I have no intention of ticketing you”
Profiling is bad but the identifiers you uses gives it a bad look. It's actually a real job.
@@alexgrinageracial profiling and profiling based purely on sex, race, or gender is not the same as what a profiler does for a living. Profilers make educated guesses based on the mannerisms of criminals to build a 'profile' on how a criminal may look or act based on their crime. In this situation, they're using a persons physical appearance to assume a crime.
As soon as this cop said "I have no intention of writing up a ticket, but step out of the car..." he was illegally detaining this poor guy imo.
Illegally extending the traffic stop in itself should warrant the grade of F
Our cops are so bad that when they break the law, we still score them a passing grade of C- as long as no one was assaulted. 😕
Have to grade on a _Curve_ now. Otherwise, the entire class (All LEO's) would fail.
Theres defininely been a pattern of not giving cops anything less than a C, as long as they didnt go hands on. Even in videos where the cops blatantly lie in an attempt to unlawfully ID citizens and threaten with arrest with no RAS
Or killed
EXACTLY! The narrator gives him a C- followed by explaining that he broke the law. Americans are so accustom to corruption from gov't actors to the extent that if no-one gets shot than it's all good.
I think ATA grades like A: Applaudable, B: Basic result, C: Counciling, D:Detention, F: Fired
Not only did he extend the stop after he said “he’s not going to cite him for any violation”, he made the guy stand in the cold, go through his things, then ensured the guy had “illegal” vitamin C over And over.
But the cop gets a C-.
@@TheArmchairrocker right?? Unbelievable. He deserves an F
@@TCR2025 I would say F is for wrongful use of force
And this was today’s lesson on why you should always remain silent, and never speak to police.
@@jare114 but the poor Officer was scared.
It is just sickening how "law enforcement" treats law abiding citizens, across the entire country. Especially if you are of darker persuasion. Yet, law enforcement wonders why no one trusts or respects them.
They burned all their trust and respect long ago. They are only now beginning to reap the consequences of this. When a cop has to look over his shoulder and hide his home address and pray no one in the public learns who his family is, he should know that the fault for this circumstance is his own.
Skin color isn't an example of a persuasion. A persuasion is a belief.
Oh most know why we do not like them but they just love to play the dumb victim so as to gaslight the public and try to garner sympathy.
A C-???? He deserves a F!!! No way dude
F is usually reserved for an unlawful arrest/assault.
@@auklin7079 But not for being subliminally racist? Riiight
@@VULCA_TL F is for overtly racist.
ATA love meat riding cops sadly
@@VULCA_TL unlawful arrest is worse than "possible racism"
That man was coerced to consent to the search. He only agreed because he was illegally detained and in physical pain from being forced into the cold.
Remember too, if he had just finished working out, his body temp is higher so it feels colder than it actually is, and he may be in damp cloths because of sweat which is easily and quickly changing temperatures.
"If you don't give me permission I'm going to make you wait out here until we get a dog to manufacture justification to search your vehicle," as in they're going to search it no matter what so how exactly can he give consent when he was already explicitly told his only choice was in how long it takes to conduct the search? Holy shit this is infuriating.
@@vyvianalcott1681 what’s a little bit of frostbite since the dog is going to be a “good boy” and alert anyway.
@@vyvianalcott1681
The cop didn’t say he was going to have to wait outside, ya turnip. He explicitly stated that he was going to have the dude sit in the back of his police vehicle. The guy chose not to sit in the car.
@@madtabby66
You and Vyvian are two peas in a pod. Your ears don’t seem to work either.
The problem is they hire these people that barely passed high school ..give them a badge and a gun and they go out and play detective instead of just keeping peace
Right. Not about peace instead creating criminals.
Never, ever let a cop search your car. There have been times cops planted drugs.
you don't actually have a choice, if they ask, they're going to search. A dog will hit if they want it to, and you can look at the rates of success of drug dogs, and it's akin to chance. This man realized this and just wants to get home, because they will make his ass wait for the k-9. Cops are being paid, and this guy loves the idea of abusing his power, and he's actively being paid to do so in this situation. There is no such things 'wasting the cops time' because they don't really have shit to do, so they'll just send a new unit out to relieve the other, and in fact you've just justified their budget by proving they need units on the street.
You can't protect yourself form corrupt police without direct video evidence, and even then, it still requires their buddies in the other parts of the legal system to go against them.
@@IJustAteYourGrapesBro
As explained in this video you should not consent. That makes a big difference
Besides what the cops might plant, there have also been multiple cases of benign substances like powdered sugar from a donut being used as the reason to make a drug arrest. In the case of a rental car you have no idea what other renters may have left in it.
@@jerseyshoredroneservices225 You can keep thinking that. They want to set you up, they gonna set you up. Notice how in the video everyone in the chain of command backed the officer up? You think that would somehow play out differently if the person DIDN'T consent.... hilarious.
@I Just Ate Your Grapes Bro You've got a point, but I would have waited for the drug dog. On the other hand, the poor guy was freezing his ass off. This one was one of those, we have investigated ourselves and did nothing wrong, cases. It tells you the superiors like this crap. I thought the cop deserved an F for being such a dick.
"You can do everything right, and still lose" fits this interaction.
True for the most part, he should have flat out refused and stood his ground on not consenting to any searches (even though he knew he was clean), but I understand as the pig was esssentially trying to torture the poor man into compliance with the freezing weather. It just would have given him a best case scenario for a lawsuit had he withheld consent, and possibly the cop would have done even more illegal shit.
I am a police officer. The more and more videos of your channel I watch the more and more I get sick at my stomach with the actions of officers. There are a lot of good officers out there but they get run over and quit because brass awards bad officers. I have seriously thought about doing other work because of this. I see it every day.
How does this not warrant an " F " under your rating system? He deliberately searched this guys car for no reason, lied, made him stand out in the cold, threatened ti bring dogs, and asked him questions like he was a drug dealer..."not escalating to a physical confrontation " is hardly something to be commended for
It's grades like that that made me unsubscribe a long time ago.
@@anon4854 Same.
well for starters, the guy wasn't beaten to a pulp or handcuffed.... so there is that.
@@Rashnak66 Citizens who have literally done nothing wrong shouldnt expect to be beaten to a pulp.
Police having the restraint to not beat an innocent citizen to a pulp is not something worthy of praise.
@@anon4854 a C- grade isn't 'praise'
_"I am not coercing you to agree to search your car, I'm just holding you here in the cold for as long as possible, so you don't have a choice."_
Notice that despite the cold weather, the only one with the nervous voice and shaky hands is the cop 😂
he was a mess lol
And here I’ve been driving around with multiple criminal indicators these last few months and didn’t even know it! I drive a rental car while mine is in the body shop AND I always have multiple bags in the back seat. I may even occasionally drive 5 miles below the speed limit at night when deer are out and I’m coming home from the gym. How suspicious of me!!!
And if you are sweaty from the gym, it can only be from some sort of drug that you are on.
@@clarkeugene5727 exactly! And since I always sweat buckets, I must be an extra extra bad drug users and criminal. And then I would shiver while sweaty and in the MN winter, so clearly I would also be shaking from nervousness and that would be yet another indicator … I mean, I can hardly believe I haven’t ended up in federal prison!
So you're driving around with bags in your car? Which is it? Drugs or weapons? Next I bet you're going to admit to gracing the middle lane to avoid a hazardous object... how criminal. Valid license and cooperation are a cover-up for all real crimes
If I see you on the streets I am calling the cops. I need to be protected from you rental car drivers with all your bags you carry around.
Given the snow on the side of the road, I’d probably be a few miles an hour under the limit too. It is an upper limit, not a designated mandatory speed.
Yeah I’ve literally driven on that same exact highway and it pisses me off to know that this shit happens so close to home.
The worst thing is, it won't be the last time this kind of thing happens
Agreed. Driving while black is an unwritten law with cops from what I have seen. I bet that had this been a young, pretty white girl the outcome would have been different.
Cry about it
@@xaphan8581 you a cop?
It should be and for some it has especially from those who are fed up with their Bullshyt. I have absolutely no pity or sadness when it happens.
I had a stop like this when I was about 22 with FHP. I was polite and cooperative but have an anxiety disorder so I was visibly nervous. I was also in nursing school and had a bag full of pill bottles with candy in them (learning dosaging.) I let him search the bag and my purse. He then asked to search my car and I asked why. "It's nothing personal. I do it to everybody." Astounded I said, "you don't have the right to do that so no." He threatened to get the drug dogs and I said go for it. Long story shortish he wasn't allowed to get the dogs and had to let me go. Know your rights.
Even if he had gotten the dogs. Anything found from the search wouldn't been considered "fruit of the poisonous tree" (actual legal term) and would be inadmissible in court due to violating your 4th amendment by seizing you longer than a reasonable time for a traffic stop.
@@GoldenTV3 Sweet! I'm pretty sure that's why they told him no or he thought I would fall for his bluff.
@@Cove_Blue But be careful with that, some counties are really gun ho and understand that limitation. So they have a K9 cruiser close by that comes by before the traffic stop is concluded to skirt around that rule.
@@GoldenTV3 I can't drive anymore and they wouldn't find anything anyway but I feel you. They're all scummy
That’s definitely an F
The fact that you stated the officer was looking for any reason possible warrants a D or F grade. This kind of behavior is why encounters with police tend to escalate. This man is lucky, and that officer needs to be off the streets because he's clearly searching for things that aren't there and manipulating scenarios to fit his narrative.
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That’s a criminal. He should absolutely get a d or an f.
I saw the video before, thanks for the legal background on the issue. The officer just felt odd, "I don't want to coerce you" But then threaten to get a dog to do a search anyway whilst letting him stand in the cold. Just made him feel forced to let him do it so he could get going. If that's not coercion then I don't know what is.
Its 100% a coercion tactic and im sure they are trained to do it. Dont fall for it. If they threaten dogs just say you dont consent to searches. They try to hold your time (and you...) hostage.
That was absolutely coercion and the cop very likely knew this, which is why he said that to cover his own butt
The next time I see a cop at the gas station, I'm gonna ask him where he's going and coming from, where he lives, if he has any bags in his car, what his hobbies are, if he likes dogs or cats, etc....this is ridiculous.
It's a shame that his compliance is the one thing that is now tripping him up from getting justice for this ridiculous stop.
It's not the cop forced him out his car in the cold and was forcing him to wait hiw ever long for a police dog. All is completely illegal he was forced to let the cop search or risk staying out in the cold and catching hypothermia. A life threaten conditions.
And yet they always tell you, "Just comply, you can fight it later in court".
@@gta4everrr compliance can fuck you over in court too cuz cops plant evidences, lie and they can do it.. and construe your words as a way to get a conviction.. there's more incentive for cops and prosecutors to lock up as many people as possible, innocent or not.. it does not matter. that's the US legal system right now.
The reality is the whole system is corrupted from top down star from politics to judges to cops you will never win unless you get seriously hurt sadly is how it works we gave them to much power now we can’t even fight back cause they have everything on wraps
@gta4everrr after spending $10k on legal costs too...
That is a sensible driver slowing down in the snowy conditions.
What the cops saw was a black man in a nice car, they don't care about actually enforcing traffic laws
@@lilpenguin092. Cops see what they want to see.
I hope that justice will prevail for this good citizen.
"I have no intention of writing you a ticket tonight, but can you step out of the vehicle please?"
(A few moments later...)
"Sir, do you have any idea how black you're driving here tonight? I'm going to need to search your vehicle or I will make you wait for the drug dog."
"Can you step out of the vehicle?"
"is that a rhetorical question or an order?"
This one made me so angry. “Omg you have …vitamins? Where’d you buy them from? What brand” like who remembers this kinda stuff??
And then he’s suspicious because he’s in a rental car? Huh??
Doesnt matter. He will invent any excuse, the illegal system wants its taxes and explicitly encourages this behavior from the tax collectors
The guy wasn’t smart enough to remain absolutely silent.
L o l i'm in the health industry so I remember the brands and types of everything I take ha ha ha ha
@Greg Kasza he gave up consent because the cop forced him out of the car and made him stand out in the cold for a long time
Rental cars are known to be used by drug couriers and occasionally even by non-drug-couriers.
Been watching these encounters on the channel and can’t help but come to the grim conclusion that most of the cops in service don’t know what they are doing or saying.
I am a white male that comes from an affluent family. I can firmly say I, my brother, or my father have never once had to step out of the car, get patted down, or asked to search my car in a normal traffic stop. It's very obvious to me this officer is assuming his involvement with drugs/crime because of his race.
I am a black male that comes from an affluent family and am still affluent.. I've experienced open discrimination from police before.. It's sad that race is a division and class too... There's a class assumption made about me because I am black so there's no way I could really afford my car in a lot of people's minds... like yoo I'm a data scientists. of course I can afford my car... IT's crazy yo
@@lordblazer It's mostly got to do with Black people in America and their propensity for crime. So because Black Americans overwhelmingly commit more crime than their percentage of the population it's only natural that cops target your community. However that shouldn't be the case as everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
Glad you can read minds. I have seen many videos of this happening to white people.
I’m white, normal family, not into drugs or crime. Have had this happen to me many times and many of my friends who are WHITE. It mainly comes down to the department and how they conduct their business. It’s sad this gentlemen had to endure this. I’ve been in the same exact boat. Freezing cold and they are threatening me to wait for the k9 when in fact I have done nothing wrong and had nothing to hide. I’ve even had the dogs alert on my vehicle before and not find anything. 🚩 CAPE CORAL POLICE DEPARTMENT 🚮
@@007tay9 did u want a cookie or something cuz demographics say otherwise
The officer "did not escalate the situation to a physical altercation." What a pathetically low bar for a law enforcement officer. Ridiculous!
you didn't even include the part of the video where the officer said " Look at his picture he's got something"
I’m upset that Audit conveniently ignored that important information
You know the cops are harassing you when they are giving you a lecture way, WAY too fast.
You could've shortened that to "You KNOW cops are harassing you." That says it all.
Literally using the "no offense" rule for official coercion, "Hey I'm not trying to be coercive here but if you don't waive all of your rights I'm going to hold you here and call a K9 unit"
I got stopped in Florida back in the 90's and refused the search of my vehicle cause I knew I had nothing. Two hours later, the cop was mad that they found nothing and that I wasted their time.. I laughed at him and told him he was wasting my time, so I felt obligated to return the favor.. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to the beach and I'm sure you have work to do.. 😂😂😂
Refuse on general principle. I would never consent to a search without a warrant under any conditions.
@exhaustguy Even if they have a warrant, don't acquiesce. Still say, "I don't consent to any searches or seizures." If won't stop them, but that way if the warrant is later ruled invalid, they can't say that you consented.
@@coolraul07 yeah, I never played with them, and remember in the early 90's we didn't have camera and phones then unless it was a bag phone. Lol. Cops were known for dropping things in vehicles daily. Never trust anyone , who doesn't trust you.
@@coolraul07 Good point. I do wonder if the police would try to trump up any statement of I don't consent to obstruction if they have a warrant.
@Michael Brammer if I recall correctly, whenever ATA refers to the definition of obstruction, it requires an active attempt to prevent law enforcement from executing their duties. This would be achieved by force or tampering with the subject of interest. Just passively saying, "I don't consent," has an extremely low chance of being construed as obstruction. A police officer may have a bruised ego about it, but no reason for a charge.
However, the video above does outline how some officers are willing to push the boundaries of reason when they don't get their way.
"Im not trying to coerce you" *extended the traffic stop for no reason, had him get out of the car into the cold, dragged out the questioning and asked to search several times before threatening to keep him in the cold to wait for dogs if he didn't consent*
This encounter went on for so long I forgot why he was pulled over in the first place 😓
Nah, you didn't forget. There was no reason.
Driving in center lane below speed limit would get pulled over in my area too once cop saw guy wasn't drunk or anything should have either given ticket for going too slow or told him to have nice day and drive in right Lane
He was pulled over so the leo could look for valuables/cash in the car.
They get a nice fat check whenever they bust down drug dealer, drunk driving or high crimes….trust me they don’t give a fuck if you are driving over or below the speed limit or other traffic violations….they all are looking for major crimes!!…watch the video around 14:48 he said “no ticket”….
@@sewerrat7612 Honestly I often avoid the right lane if I can help it. It's usually the most torn up lane.
So if an officer tortures (cold exposure is a known torture) you long enough, and threatens to continue torturing you, during a baseless traffic stop to make you "consent" to a baseless search they can legally get away with it and will be fully supported by their chain of command. Disgusting.
The ONLY question you should answer they will never ask and that is do you want a lawyer present during this INTERROGATION!
They always want to charge you with "resisting arrest" and "obstruction of justice" or "disorderly conduct" or "failure to ID" but what did they do to get those charges to begin with because they weren't charged with anything else but those things.
We need to remove ALL of those as charges.
@@fettel1988 no we just need to get better cops.
They should only be chargeable in conjunction with other charges supported by probable cause and legally obtained evidence
Yup, because "resisting", "obstruction", and "disorderly" are vague and ambiguous so they treat them like magic-spells they can cast to arrest anyone for any reason or even no reason at all. Disorderus Obstructium!
some jurisdictions only allow those charges as secondary charges, meaning that if there isn't a valid reason to arrest, a citizen cannot be charged with resisting arrest, same with obstruction and failure to ID. Disorderly Conduct is more broad. and can be the primary charge almost everywhere.
I would say that the reduced speed is absolutely justified with the amount of ice on the ground that the officer had to walk through to get to his car. Sounds like the officer was just bored and needed to meet his department’s quota.
No!!! It sounds like he's a effing bigot profiling A Negger!!
Probably one of the cops doing repeated stops looking for "drug traffickers". Since it's often out of state they get fines paid more often. Rental cars throw that flag. Little towns set up several officers to do just that task to bring in funds for the office. He's a piece of crap cop.
Nah, it was just a case of driving-while-black. The young white cop (LackLuster has his photo) was just super racist and made it clear in LL's video.
Wow. You must not be black. Because even the most conservative,head stuck up their ass black person would be hard pressed to think what you did.
@@I.____.....__...__ there’s no such thing. Way to carry racism on though. You must live a life of victimhood.
Needlessly extending the length of the traffic stop and forcing someone to stand outside in the cold under threat of bringing a drug-sniffing dog to the car is textbook coercion. It's not uncommon for drug dogs to alert on the basis of subtle signaling by the officer handling the dog. Additionally, drug dogs are typically instructed to touch the car while they sniff around it, hence anyone that gives a crap about the quality of the paint on their car would be further disincentivized to allow a drug dog to sniff the vehicle. Drug dogs should not be allowed to be used just because the officer can't get lawful consent.
It's not entirely dissimilar to the "smell of weed" argument. Anyone can literally make that shit up as justification for violating someone's rights. Luckily, with the widespread legalization of marijuana, this will no longer be the case in many states.
"Am I free to go?" Is the most under used phrase in these situations. Don't consent to searches or pat-downs. Don't answer unnecessary questions. Don't volunteer any info. Get a supervisor immediately.
They will automatically get aggressive when you ask that.
@@auqbaby1143 well too bad that's their problem, a rookie cop or top brass cops are crooks and organized criminals. Never trust any cops as they have a chance to plant drugs or weapons. Why you think their vest are bulky? There are chances a cop could plant a weapon which was hidden under their vest and planted inside the car.
I have found the opposite. I have always tried to stay on good terms with cops. It’s worked for me.
@@davecooper3238 Of course it worked for you. Stop pretending like discrimination doesn’t exist
@@davecooper3238 70 year old white man isn't oppressed by the police, what a shocker!
Love how often cops act surprised when people become nervous and/or agitated when interacting with cops then behave in a way that would justify people being nervous and/or agitated.
i love when internal investigations determine "no wrong doing." any of those internal investigators would have been flipping the f out if they were done like this citizen was done. no doubt about it at all.
Nah, he saw a black man and automatically thought he was up to no good. 🥴
@ARC1 That cop is a Boy Scout who thought he’d get a drug bust. It’s sad because I guarantee they’d catch more criminals if they didn’t waste time harassing black people at every turn. I grew up with a lot of white teens who had drugs in their cars on a daily basis. Their parents too.
@ARC1 I wouldn’t say typical. Not that common really
@@jare114 Unless your black ofc
What I am trying to say not that not all cops are racist. I encourage checking out this guy called Donut Operator on youtube. I will get some links to more specific videos here soon.
I understand that police brutality exists it’s just not as widespread as you may think. Thanks
The moment he pulled him out of the car "Because when I initially tried to talk with you, you weren't super cooperative" - an interrogation tactic. Making the suspect uncomfortable enough to get them talking. (as evidenced by the fact that the agrieved finally gave up and allowed a search "Because it's cold"). Congrats Officer, you just obliterated this man's 4th amendment protections.
Edit to fix spelling. (Happy @Joe Arguello)?
What does "interegation" mean? Is that a typo or some Black's Law Dictionary speak I'm not familiar with
@@lilpenguin092 pretty sure he's trying to spell interrogation
@@lilpenguin092 The hell did you call it?
I hope thats an actual legal term
@@HandlingYouyou mean Black's Law Dictionary? It's a real thing.
But yeah, they're petty asf for picking on the spelling of a word.
"Because when I initially tried talking to you..."
I might have told him, because I'm a bitch and don't have a problem being told so, "Well, Officer, if you really needed to talk, you could have just told me that. I'm a great listener. We could have gone to have coffee somewhere and stayed warm, instead of you getting attention this way."
I'll give the first cop a D because he didn't use cuffs, physical violence, or make a false arrest.
I'll give the other cop a F- for not speaking up, challenging him, or defending the civilian.
I give the higher-ups who determined there was no wrongdoing an F- - - - - - for perpetuating a repugnant system and empowering bad policing.
I give the civilian an A-. They should not have volunteered any info or allowed a search, but doing so doesn't make you wrong. Ideally, it should be ok to do these kinds of things if you desire.
I would NEVER give consent to search anything. It has been shown multiple times cops planting contraband to get an arrest.
LOL. Not going over the speed limit but being pulled over for going under the speed limit, it really seems to be a no-win situation.
And they do love to use that lane deviation claim.
I'm 29 years old and I kid you not the only time I have been pulled over was for driving too slow through a construction zone AT NIGHT
"Do you know why I pulled you over? You were driving too slow"
"...Through a construction zone? Isn't that the point? I can't really see where I'm going"
He let me go but it was a rather confusing moment.
Critical thinking is NOT their strong suit.
Police get so unbelievably addicted to the power that they wield over criminals that they start to treat non-criminals that way "for their own good" it's a pathetic and evil cycle
Wasting your time. God I'd have loved to hear you tell him he's wasting your time.
My best traffic interaction - I used to drive a Honda Accord Type-R. One time, I'm waiting at a red light, I'm the first in line, green light lights up and I went off full throttle, accelerated on 1st gear from 0 to 30mph, I mean just for fun, just to make it loud. Next thing I know a cop, who was a few cars behind me, turns his lights/siren, chases me up and pulls me over. He claimed I was "driving recklessly", started giving me a lecture on how dangerous I was driving. I asked him "Are you in all seriousness saying that accelerating in a straight line from 0 to 30mph (the legal limit) constitutes dangerous driving?". He mumbled something, I couldn't really understand what he said, then he swore at me and.. walked away. At first I was stunned, but then couldn't stop laughing. What an idiot.
"I can't really see where I'm going" is not a thing I would want to say to an officer. It would give them all kinds of excuses to "investigate" you. It may be hard to remember in the moment, but "Visibility is poor in this construction zone" would be a better way to say it. There are people with vision problems who shouldn't drive at night, and some who shouldn't drive at all, and not all such people have the good sense to limit or give up their driving. And of course there are times when visibility is so bad that EVERYONE should stay off the roads.
A clear case of driving while black.
C-, really??? Officer to dispatch..."(he) wasn't really cooperative with me at all." He might as well have said..."yeah, he won't kiss me or nothing."
Making him stand in the cold while they waited for a K9 is absolutely coercion. Of course he's going to just allow them to search just to get it over with.
When I was a teenager my brother, friend and myself were walking through our neighborhood and we came across a couple of police officers who were looking for some kids smoking pot. Back then it was still illegal, but the 3 of us just got to the area and were detained for 15 minutes because apparently we some what matched the description the police received. After the 15 minutes we were released without incident, we didn't talk much or really answer any questions other than if we were ever in the area of the suspects.
Sounds like you guys handled it pretty well
My brother and friend were too nervous to talk so I had to do most of the talking
Right now I feel like I gotta stop watching these videos, because they always infuriate me.But at the same time I gotta keep watching them to learn from them.
Around the end of last year, I felt overwhelmed from having seen over 1,000 videos of this kind of stuff over the past several years. Then I realized I had only started watching them a few months earlier. 🤦
3am, I was finally on my way home from work, driving through an area of known deer crossong. I got pulled over for driving under the speed limit. He wanted to know where I was coming from, going to, why I was out at this time, why so slow, etc. As he ask me why so slow, deer go running through the area in front of us. I just looked at him and stated, "Seriously, you need to ask? Know your patrol area. I'm going home now." He was not a happy guy.
Man, I can't imagine what the officer could have found suspicious about this guy. Complete mystery why he asked him multiple times about illegal stuff like weed and coke.
Yeah we both know it’s quite obvious why. The police officer is a racist
I mean, yeah, the guy was obviously sober and coherent. But he is black and wearing a hoody, so totally reasonable suspicion. Totally.
Because hes black and has his hood up
i think because black people have weed and coke so much that he noticed a pattern. im sure he runs in to people hiding drugs more than people auditing or knowing their rights
@@maybedrinkin3241yep them black guys in hoodies are allllll criminals right?
( black guy currently in a hoodie )
Thankfully the officer put him between two vehicles for that man’s safety.
I’ve had cops tell me that they were bringing a dog to search my vehicle and have even said they “visually clocked my speed at 70 in a 55 without radar while parked”. They also didn’t turn on their lights to pull me over until after I had pulled into my driveway. They said they could detain me because they originally assumed I was pulling into a vacant lot. Even after I told them that I lived there they asked several times where I lived. I had to hold my driver’s license next to my mailbox to point out that I was in fact literally at my house.😂
I find it hilarious that his partner had this expression on her face the whole time which said, "WTF are you doing? It's cold AF out here."
I thought the same 🤨
We've seen that many times where a non-corrupt cop won't stand up to the corrupt one who can make their life miserable to defend a random civilian they'll probably never see again and just ends up standing there staring at the ground waiting for the encounter to end as fast as possible, praying that it doesn't escalate. 🤦
It is called "cold compliance" just another torture/manipulation commonly used by pigs.
@@I.____.....__...__ that non corrupt cop is complicit in evil.
Snow and possible slick roads…going under is an issue😂😂
Driving in snowy conditions 5 miles under the speed limit to avoid a accident while black
Multiple civil rights violations and retaliatory abuses of authority merit a C- in your book? Let me take your marshmallow candy puff classes dude
Look at his picture, look at his new car! Criminal!! I hope he's able to sue the department and the cops. I wish he didn't let them search. Planting evidence is a real thing and is always possible.
Law enforcement in this country is totally out of control
its the bad apples that make everyone look bad...theres more cops with good intentions than "out of control" ones. part of the reason cops need to be funded more not defunded. better training and personality screening would prevent a lot of this id like to think.
@Porto it's not "just a few bad apples", it's a fuckin lot of bad apples. Still the minority but not by much. I agree though defending isn't the way.
@@DylanPorto45Generally the movement for defunding police is in agreement with you, it's not meant to neuter their capabilities but rather reduce the funding which makes them so heavily militarized, gang-like and resistant to ramifications for their abuse of power.
If they had less funding and fuel for their ego trips, and more of the money was directed to actually making them competent then things would be much better.
@@abirdnamedwill not sure i can agree. have you seen Portland? ramifications have nothing to do with funding, its just city governments not holding them accountable. they dont want to look bad. regardless of how much they are paid, certain personalities still would have a sense of "power" over you by simply being a cop able to arrest you. its the people, not the money. i personally dont think they get paid enough (hot take i know). people want cops to save their lives in a crisis, but judge them every chance they get otherwise. doesnt make sense to me. maybe if they paid more and put resources into making them learn the law to a tea, and the right and wrongs in certain situations, more people would want to be a cop. not sure what you mean by "militarized" either. i was in the Army and they are getting no where near the funding we are to say the least LMAO.
Tyrant law enforcement is a mirror image of the politicians, except with guns. Together they stand.
Just to add a bit to the initial context. This piece of road is close to the MSP airport so it is loaded with rental cars and people who are trying to find their way and drive slow while doing so.
Also, because of the Mall of America and other attractions located In Bloomington the police department seems to treat most situations I’ve seen so along these ways because of their “training.”
For a Minneapolis police interaction this is almost a best case scenereo.
My dad had the cops stop him with guns drawn by Bloomington police. The problem, his tabs were expired. Years later got told (by another cop in the same city) they do that because its funny
@@13thdoggy it's kinda crazy that the communities the police "serve" put up with it.
Huh, got stopped by the police a few months ago and I was let go after 5 minutes. Barely escaped with my life, they almost shot me!!!
As a Minnesota resident, I can say that police get away with abusing power pretty often as a result of being very polite about their abuses, and the citizens of the Midwestern states wanting to be pleasant and cooperative by nature.
They have a gun and a badge, they are above the law !!!
As someone who lives in Winnipeg, Manitoba, I couldn't see 5 feet in front of me driving in a blizzard last night and it was absolutely necessary to drive 30 under the limit and in the middle of the road
"I am not trying to coerce you in to it." He coerced.
The cop wanted to find drugs because he profiled the guy. But he also was hoping for the "grand slam" of cash for civil asset forfeiture. Bet he was thinking about cash the whole time after the dude said 2 homes.
"I don't want you to think I'm coercing you"
The look on the other cops face... even she was like, "this is some bs"
But she says nothing
Officer gets an F and deserves to find another job with less power, C- makes no sense at this point
Another example of a cop dealing with a non-criminal to meet tragets set by his dept. These cops need to be held PERSONALLY responsible for their intentional illegal acts.
Eroding faith is an understatement. I wish this channel existed back in 2013. I unfortunately had my own run in with Ohio state troopers. I come from a family of police officers (actual good ones, I'm not being biased either) and now I don't trust any of them. It's gotten that bad. Even though at every opportunity the empathy in me when I see them at a gas station or what have you,i tell them "be safe"
It's officers like these that make me sick and lose faith more and more every day
Watching a channel like this one, which sheds light on officers like the one on this video, can give you a disproportionate sense of police misbehavior. People binge on these videos and develop a belief that the cops depicted are typical and representative of the average cop. That's not a reasonable assumption.
Just a few days ago around midnight a cop flew past me and my friend going about 70-80 in a 35 going into oncoming traffic lane and then proceeded to run 2 red lights infront of us. Their lights were not on.
@@Johnbobon it is a reasonable assumption because they all have pretty much the same level of education and it's a certain type of people who want the job and the training sucks
@@Johnboboneh every cop I've ever met was like this,it's not overstepping to generalize these officers at shitbags,after all,they generalize and stereotype all of us
@@Johnbobon the fact that they CAN act like this is enough to destroy any trust a citizen might have. They don't serve the community, they serve the government and themselves
When the cop threatens to call the canine, he says "you can sit on the front of my car or hang out in the back seat with the windows down and door open". This combined with the unnecessary questioing outside is proof that he's just torturing him with cold weather to get him to break down and consent to a search. Evil. Why would he need to sit in those conditions?
Edit: TLDR: consensual search by coercion.
You absolutely did coerce him by threatening to get a dog because you want to search this man’s car for no apparent reason
"Cop does illegal thing. C+" -Audit the Audit
If this was a test, the officer would get a D or F. It's like he seemingly knows all the steps, but since he can't put them in the right order or clearly understand the nature of what the steps mean, he is ineffectual. Also, no one has mentioned having him stand between two cars next to icy roads.