My Girlfriend Is Bringing A $350,000 Student Loan Debt Into Our Marriage!

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  • @TheRamseyShow
    @TheRamseyShow  2 года назад +24

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    • @JesusisLordgh8j
      @JesusisLordgh8j 2 года назад +3

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    • @TheSinglisa
      @TheSinglisa 2 года назад +6

      Why didn't these two tell the caller to WAIT a couple of years to see if his girlfriend was serious about working hard? She should be able to pay off $100K in a year. (In fact, Dave never tells people to wait / pause a couple of years on getting married and I've always wondered why.)

  • @JS-zi7yr
    @JS-zi7yr 2 года назад +1612

    We held off on getting married until both of our debt was paid off. Paid cash for the wedding. Started off marriage debt free with our emergency fund in place. Best decision we made.

    • @ariahlea
      @ariahlea 2 года назад +18

      Love this!

    • @jmax6614
      @jmax6614 2 года назад +24

      This is what I would do if I was the caller, if she's really focused on getting out of debt

    • @coniccinoc
      @coniccinoc 2 года назад +31

      A canoe works better when both riders are paddling in the same direction.

    • @ufchighlights1
      @ufchighlights1 2 года назад +7

      Now that’s how y’all stay together.

    • @y.peffle2802
      @y.peffle2802 2 года назад +32

      If people followed this advice some would never get married. You don't need to have a wedding to get married if the hold up was you wanted to pay cash for the wedding

  • @sgg17003
    @sgg17003 2 года назад +1323

    "When poverty walks through the door, love flies out the window."
    - My Nana, circa 1995

    • @melanieb2132
      @melanieb2132 2 года назад +76

      "Marry for money not for love, because when the lovin's all gone, the money's still there."
      Step grandpa to my mom circa 1979
      She didnt take his advice. 😆

    • @MartinLabuschin
      @MartinLabuschin 2 года назад +6

      Your nana was anti-poor?

    • @ErwinSchrodinger64
      @ErwinSchrodinger64 2 года назад +14

      @@MartinLabuschin how could you come to that conclusion?

    • @MartinLabuschin
      @MartinLabuschin 2 года назад +3

      @@ErwinSchrodinger64 I read the comment.

    • @Ep1cRainbow
      @Ep1cRainbow 2 года назад +9

      @@MartinLabuschin stop being offended

  • @LimitlessLovely
    @LimitlessLovely 2 года назад +479

    I’m a female and my message to this caller is please do not marry her until she has paid off at least half of that debt by herself. I paid off my own student debt and it really made me appreciate how hard you have to work to pay off debt.

    • @marywebb9127
      @marywebb9127 2 года назад +8

      💯

    • @thelookout5802
      @thelookout5802 2 года назад +19

      I was of the same opinion. Let him observe how she pays off part of the debt first. He seems like a nice guy, responsible, and she knows it. Let her show commitment..

    • @ehiggins7476
      @ehiggins7476 2 года назад +11

      Half ? How about all of it?

    • @xiomaragomez6649
      @xiomaragomez6649 2 года назад +7

      @@thelookout5802 correct. She needs to show him she's committed to make their family successful.

    • @chipm2544
      @chipm2544 Год назад

      Wait till she gets pregnant. You know what is going to happen then.

  • @merhabaworld5924
    @merhabaworld5924 2 года назад +1265

    As a female, I would not marry her with that much debt. He's in a good position to walk away or just hold off the wedding. No way. This is very much an early sign to be careful.

    • @DougAlesUSA
      @DougAlesUSA 2 года назад +46

      As a male, I’d start with a test. Caller, if you are reading this, do you have a garden hose? Oh, and a golf ball?

    • @gbb82
      @gbb82 2 года назад +63

      The fact that another female downvotes this is enough for me run.

    • @exvan3571
      @exvan3571 2 года назад +7

      Doug Ales wins the internet.

    • @unpopularopinion149
      @unpopularopinion149 2 года назад +15

      @@DougAlesUSA and if she won’t do it out of love and pure attraction then it’s still not worth it brother. That’s still a simp move.

    • @NoName-ip4si
      @NoName-ip4si 2 года назад +23

      He should make her pay all of it.

  • @jordanwilliams1546
    @jordanwilliams1546 2 года назад +712

    This man is LITERALLY walking into a burning 🔥 building smiling

    • @erikkacherry4537
      @erikkacherry4537 2 года назад +7

      😂😂😂

    • @2atexan986
      @2atexan986 2 года назад +23

      No he is “literally” not.

    • @chrissy1448
      @chrissy1448 2 года назад +5

      No he’s not.. if she hunkers down this will go away in 3-5 years…

    • @oregonflatland
      @oregonflatland 2 года назад +17

      Simp hall of fame is calling his name!

    • @joesillamanrs7189
      @joesillamanrs7189 2 года назад +4

      Could be lucrative if they pay it off early.

  • @theconglomerate832
    @theconglomerate832 2 года назад +1900

    I'd hate to have worked that hard, saved up a nice little cushion, and end up throwing it all at such a large debt that isn't mine. Sheesh!

    • @Q.b.9378
      @Q.b.9378 2 года назад +231

      If you get married, that is your debt.

    • @theconglomerate832
      @theconglomerate832 2 года назад +157

      @@Q.b.9378 I'm an advocate for combined finances in marriage, debt included. Doesn't change my sentiment, though! It is a daunting task!

    • @trancendental5373
      @trancendental5373 2 года назад +213

      She would have to be a 10

    • @DextahPC
      @DextahPC 2 года назад +284

      @@trancendental5373 The fact that she was capable of going that far into debt wouldn't make her a 10 to me.

    • @uhtredsonofuhtred9440
      @uhtredsonofuhtred9440 2 года назад +137

      Military guys always mess up in this fashion . I seen it over and over again !

  • @bffoxjr
    @bffoxjr 2 года назад +479

    My wife has an inferiority complex from never having gone to college. But she overlooked the shining fact that she's completely free of the indentured servitude of student loans.

    • @TheRealEdStoner
      @TheRealEdStoner 2 года назад +29

      College is one of the biggest scams in this country except for the 30% of jobs that actually need degrees.

    • @bffoxjr
      @bffoxjr 2 года назад +17

      @@TheRealEdStoner mostly STEM, business, and law. You can even omit some tech jobs.

    • @Daniel-mq3nf
      @Daniel-mq3nf 2 года назад +1

      Run bro

    • @JohnDoe-gy5dr
      @JohnDoe-gy5dr 2 года назад +12

      @@bffoxjr You can omit *some* tech jobs but its a bit of a myth that high paying tech jobs will hire without a degree. it happens more than in most fields im sure but unless you are a wizard id recommend going to school for math or computer science.

    • @jamiehelms9896
      @jamiehelms9896 2 года назад

      Best thing that could happen to her, many of us regret school!

  • @yeislyntorres5304
    @yeislyntorres5304 2 года назад +491

    DO NOT MARRY HER. TRUST ME, AS SOON AS SHE IS PREGNANT SHE IS GOING TO THROW THE "I WANT TO BE A STAY AT HOME" BS INTO THE EQUATION AND YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR ALL HER DEBT. YES I AM SCREAMING AT YOU. SAVE YOURSELF SOME TROUBLE

    • @henri6595
      @henri6595 2 года назад +43

      I know a girl who did the same thing with 70-100K debt for her Masters. Worked 2-years~, married, and now planning to stay at home with her 1st kid.

    • @drcatrinaking
      @drcatrinaking 2 года назад +51

      Women who get into and get through vet school generally don't have this mindset. They've worked hard all their lives, and having kids never seems to stop them. I know 100s of vets who are wives and mothers - none of them are just stay-at-home moms.

    • @thehylander266
      @thehylander266 2 года назад +14

      @@drcatrinaking
      Not true. There is a doctor shortage in much of the country because female doctors never go back to being doctors after they have kids and decide to be moms instead or go back way later to being a doctor. And bing a Vet isn’t a massive difference as being a MD insofar as weird ethic is concerned. Not always the case that because you’re a doctor you won’t do that.

    • @drcatrinaking
      @drcatrinaking 2 года назад +16

      @@thehylander266 You literally just made that up. What evidence do you have to support your assertion?

    • @joshitheyoshi2533
      @joshitheyoshi2533 2 года назад +14

      @@drcatrinaking Most of my family is in medicine and I've seen it first-hand. Even according to the AAMC, 40% of women physicians go part-time or leave medicine altogether within six years of completing their residencies, based on a University of Michigan study.

  • @rolandoflores2806
    @rolandoflores2806 2 года назад +1247

    Finally Dave told the man to run if she’s not gonna pay it

    • @vincetaylor3948
      @vincetaylor3948 2 года назад +120

      Dave is kinda of a simp sometimes

    • @antoniomontana4480
      @antoniomontana4480 2 года назад +56

      @@vincetaylor3948 all the time

    • @bobbyb7672
      @bobbyb7672 2 года назад +48

      Yeah finally! He usually tell men and women different things in these cases...

    • @djpuplex
      @djpuplex 2 года назад +33

      Female customers won't like that.

    • @richthepup
      @richthepup 2 года назад +23

      Cause he understands the magnitude of that debt. If it was 150k he would have told him to power thur it without hesitation

  • @GLJ2414
    @GLJ2414 2 года назад +254

    350k=no marriage

    • @devinhawkins249
      @devinhawkins249 2 года назад +2

      😂😂😂

    • @jeorgedavid3239
      @jeorgedavid3239 2 года назад +1

      Exactly

    • @eckankar7756
      @eckankar7756 2 года назад +12

      Continue dating a few more years and see how she handles the mess she's in. If they marry and work like dogs they won't see each other much anyway. Put marriage off.

    • @tjmcavoy-jensen871
      @tjmcavoy-jensen871 2 года назад +6

      @@jeorgedavid3239 I won’t be getting married anyway even if someone had $0 debt, it’s a bad deal for men in this day in age

    • @Rob10288
      @Rob10288 2 года назад

      👍👍👍

  • @LivingLifeWithDeeDee
    @LivingLifeWithDeeDee 2 года назад +579

    He seems like a very great man. If I were him though, I wouldn’t marry her until I actually see her roll up her sleeves and work like a maniac to work on paying the debt off.

    • @cashkitty3472
      @cashkitty3472 2 года назад +14

      Exactly this

    • @Kp-cb8pq
      @Kp-cb8pq 2 года назад +1

      🙌🏽🙌🏽👏🏽

    • @jmr9735
      @jmr9735 2 года назад +19

      But she's fantastic, didn't you hear him? haha I'm joking.
      For real, though - that marriage counseling also better discuss what happens when the talk of babies comes along, and they're sitting there with this mountain of debt. I can see it now - she starts popping out kids, and suddenly she...the one with the debt, wants to stay home with the kids.

    • @Abmarp
      @Abmarp 2 года назад +2

      Yep

    • @worthlessnbreathin8005
      @worthlessnbreathin8005 2 года назад +2

      i love your hair. 😍

  • @tamrix
    @tamrix 2 года назад +91

    Don’t go into marriage paying someone else’s debt. Never do this. Ever.

  • @georgemendez6760
    @georgemendez6760 2 года назад +349

    Imagine her rolling up her sleeves and divorcing him after its been paid off

    • @nightfangs2910
      @nightfangs2910 2 года назад +67

      Wouldn't be the first time I have seen it

    • @Sam-dc9bg
      @Sam-dc9bg 2 года назад +42

      That is the big risk. Would she really be looking at this guy if she was debt free? Often the answer is no.

    • @stewbugz5213
      @stewbugz5213 2 года назад +29

      I know girls who did that in the medical field. The caller needs to wait to get married!

    • @yourgooglemeister6745
      @yourgooglemeister6745 2 года назад +6

      Imagine? That is SOP!

    • @front331
      @front331 2 года назад +2

      That's disgusting. I hope there's a god in that instance.

  • @bill2181
    @bill2181 2 года назад +981

    If you ever feel down or hopeless in your current situation, at least you’re not 350k in debt 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Leftists_are_Losers
      @Leftists_are_Losers 2 года назад +74

      At least I’m not $350k in student loan debt for someone else’s education. That’s not stupid... it’s stooooopid.

    • @ichooselife2590
      @ichooselife2590 2 года назад +8

      I concur!

    • @Opethfeldt
      @Opethfeldt 2 года назад +30

      So many people out there who appear well off on the surface but have hundreds of thousands in debt.

    • @aryheen
      @aryheen 2 года назад +6

      SO TRUE. :p

    • @silky2204
      @silky2204 2 года назад +2

      Unless you have inheritance.

  • @TeenaNikole
    @TeenaNikole 2 года назад +267

    Never cared to marry a rich guy, but made sure my husband had no debt before we got engaged. Love should be priceless, but your marriage won’t be that great if you’re 350K in the hole and struggling to pay it off. Even if there’s a solid plan in place to pay it off in 15-20 years, you won’t be happy that your peers are buying houses and having kids, yet you’re stuck paying off massive debt because you CHOSE a partner with this much debt.

    • @jayangli
      @jayangli 2 года назад +9

      Teens Nicole your smart.

    • @linuxsurfer2002
      @linuxsurfer2002 2 года назад +25

      Agree 100%. He's walking into a financial dumpster fire.

    • @sonderexpeditions
      @sonderexpeditions 2 года назад +14

      Exactly. I want some to be debt free when getting married.

    • @kokoskokso
      @kokoskokso 2 года назад +12

      even worse, you CHOSE a partner who's that stupid / irresponsible / [enter your preferred adjective] to rack up student debt in the amount for which you could get a HOUSE. as a woman, I'd run far. at the very least, I'd be holding off the wedding until the other person is debt-free. in this case though, I think they're polar opposites and too far from each other finance-wise. he's a diligent hard-working saver, she's a spender from what we've seen so far. NOPE

    • @jeffsmith9420
      @jeffsmith9420 2 года назад

      You are a bot right?

  • @aligncars10000
    @aligncars10000 2 года назад +43

    This would be a deal breaker for me. She is beyond irresponsible with money. Chances are they get married, payoff the debt, and she will be gone down the road.

  • @censored1360
    @censored1360 2 года назад +122

    No Vajaja is worth taking on 350k in debt

    • @jeorgedavid3239
      @jeorgedavid3239 2 года назад +5

      Exactly

    • @Michael-jo9jb
      @Michael-jo9jb 4 месяца назад +1

      😅😅😅😅

    • @jeep19
      @jeep19 12 дней назад

      Ditto, but he sounds like he needs it 😂 he's defending her, and she'll break him using that vajay 😂

  • @TheIdontcarewhat
    @TheIdontcarewhat 2 года назад +466

    This guy is a savings rockstar. He is going to get crushed by this other persons debt. I hope he runs away!

    • @ericprieto4348
      @ericprieto4348 2 года назад +40

      u cant fix beta

    • @hermanhenderson966
      @hermanhenderson966 2 года назад +33

      He’s simpin hard

    • @nsp31a
      @nsp31a 2 года назад +29

      This guy needs to get red pilled quick and call off the wedding.

    • @kaiserpuppydog7174
      @kaiserpuppydog7174 2 года назад +25

      He could find out if this woman loves him by simply saying he won't marry her until she pays off her debt. But he sounds like a lovesick puppy who doesn't want to know the truth.

    • @knowthyself8233
      @knowthyself8233 2 года назад +6

      The 🐱 is to good he won't run away 🤣

  • @energeticsoulhealer888
    @energeticsoulhealer888 2 года назад +24

    I would NEVER expect my future husband to take on my debt like that. To me, THAT is the red flag. It's entitlement, and a major character flaw. I'd feel guilty asf draining his savings, and exploiting his hard work like that.
    RUNNNN.

  • @dynamicwellness33
    @dynamicwellness33 2 года назад +181

    Never drain your retirement account for someone else’s debt… Ever.
    Student loan debt, is that persons debt, not our debt.

    • @Robert74450
      @Robert74450 2 года назад +3

      Best advice ever dynamic wellness

    • @gr86er
      @gr86er 2 года назад +1

      Exactly

    • @lusfit6903
      @lusfit6903 2 года назад +1

      I agree! But then do you combine or separate bank accounts if you're married ?

    • @dynamicwellness33
      @dynamicwellness33 2 года назад +2

      @@lusfit6903 combined account for monthly household expense purposes. If she is working, she should be paying her student loan debt, income based at least. If she isn't working, lets say a stay at home mom, do income based payments and file taxes seperatley. There's no way I am paying someone else's debt especially if they aren't working. Her names on the loan, not yours, you have no obligation to pay unless you refinance into your name.

    • @mkeptrangli
      @mkeptrangli Год назад +2

      @@lusfit6903 Have a combined account for household expenses and keep separate accounts for personal expenses and personal debt.

  • @johntaliburton7743
    @johntaliburton7743 2 года назад +93

    If caller was a woman the call wouldn’t even be made, a decision would have been made on the 2nd date!

    • @jaygold4467
      @jaygold4467 2 года назад +9

      Bingo!! They look at your wallet first.

  • @ev1836
    @ev1836 2 года назад +281

    She has the debt of an MD without ever being able to make the salary of an MD

    • @thekiaradanielle
      @thekiaradanielle 2 года назад +24

      Vets make more than a lot of doctors

    • @josephsonntag1354
      @josephsonntag1354 2 года назад +66

      @@thekiaradanielle not likely

    • @patty109109
      @patty109109 2 года назад +40

      @@thekiaradanielle lol. Average vet salary is like $125k.

    • @ev1836
      @ev1836 2 года назад +44

      @@thekiaradanielle the average salary of a vet in pittsburgh is $97k which is way less than the average for a physician

    • @HoneyDooDoo
      @HoneyDooDoo 2 года назад +26

      @@ev1836 crazy, I bring in about $97k cleaning ducts in SoCal.

  • @mollynash2597
    @mollynash2597 2 года назад +34

    If I were this guy, I would tell her to pay off a certain amount before we get married. That way he can see if she's serious about paying it off.

  • @rj-lx9yt
    @rj-lx9yt 2 года назад +8

    Don't marry. Choose a more suitable candidate. She didn't plan on her future properly.

    • @rj-lx9yt
      @rj-lx9yt 2 года назад +1

      Further, this isn't anti-poor. The lack of finance understanding is a mind-set. She obviously doesn't have it.

  • @rhynosouris710
    @rhynosouris710 2 года назад +189

    Dave's right. You're walking into a divorce settlement that will ruin your entire life.

    • @jaygold4467
      @jaygold4467 2 года назад +8

      Exactly. This is a disaster.

    • @jocarson5310
      @jocarson5310 Год назад +2

      She will be making a lot more money than him. More than likely she would be paying alimony; not him.
      He will never be obligated to pay her student loan debt. It is a premarital debt.

    • @AmukaAkuma
      @AmukaAkuma 10 месяцев назад

      @@jocarson5310 That is assuming she out earn him continuously. She may hustle till the debt is gone, pop out a few kids, and while they are small, work significantly less. Making him the breadwinner. 7-10 years later and, poof, divorce the dude collect the kids, child support, alimony & the house. Happens every day.

  • @CJXBS
    @CJXBS 2 года назад +326

    I dated a vet with over 200k in student loans. I ended that relationship pretty quick

    • @krassimirpetrov7131
      @krassimirpetrov7131 2 года назад +17

      Good call !

    • @jeorgedavid3239
      @jeorgedavid3239 2 года назад +1

      Ha ha 😂 🤣

    • @eckankar7756
      @eckankar7756 2 года назад +50

      Same here, I'm an RN and made more than the Vet I dated. I went to a community college for my RN and the hospital that hired me paid for my bachelor degree. My RN cost $7K for the associate degree, the Vet was still in for over $200K in student loans. Plus I work three 12 hour shifts a week.

    • @craigadams3639
      @craigadams3639 2 года назад +13

      Thank Goodness! That's probably one of the best decisions of your life I bet .

    • @nicolab2075
      @nicolab2075 2 года назад +7

      Sounds like they dodged a bullet

  • @ryanj357
    @ryanj357 2 года назад +128

    NEVER clean up someone elses mess. It's not your responsibility. This man needs to run.

    • @dunkinmonke1380
      @dunkinmonke1380 Год назад

      Your jealous that you couldn't find a guy so awesome

    • @xsgtxbigboy1655
      @xsgtxbigboy1655 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@dunkinmonke1380the guy is awesome for adopting 350kbin debt?😂

    • @eyaalem7990
      @eyaalem7990 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@dunkinmonke1380are you okay? You want to live a hell life?

    • @awill3454
      @awill3454 5 месяцев назад

      I have broken up with 2 separate women who were in $200k+ in debt. Hell no I would not deal with that nonsense

    • @peacebeyondpassion2
      @peacebeyondpassion2 3 месяца назад

      He can stay, he just needs to see that she will do the work!
      No marriage until then, because as soon as the babies come, that's it!

  • @missbcat6386
    @missbcat6386 2 года назад +5

    Run sir RUN !!!! Veterinarians DO NOT make that much money, unless your a veterinarian that goes into residency and specializes in orthopedic surgery, oncology or pathology, most Vet Clinics these days are owned by corporate like Banfield, and she’s looking at her most earned under 80k .
    You HAVE NO idea just how badly veterinarians are paid, not to mention the very high burn out rates, and the constant shilling of vaccines and other things , she will be pulling teeth just to scrape by as a vet.
    Trust me on this one.

  • @a.h.2667
    @a.h.2667 2 года назад +275

    With that much debt, I hope they aren't planning to spend thousands on a fancy wedding as well.

    • @eckankar7756
      @eckankar7756 2 года назад +30

      A can of Spam and two forks.

    • @kareem2262
      @kareem2262 2 года назад +3

      I was wonder the same

    • @TobiHamed
      @TobiHamed 2 года назад +20

      Ofcos she wants a big wedding women don't care about reality all they want is the magic and rainbows

    • @run4cmt
      @run4cmt 2 года назад +12

      @@TobiHamed not all women. I never wanted a big wedding

    • @TobiHamed
      @TobiHamed 2 года назад +12

      @@run4cmt well you're the exception and not the rule, I got married in 2020 and my wife is still upset till today that we had a small wedding, because of the pandemic, still wants a big party, and I say no cos I refuse to go into dept for a party, I'll give her the world IF I could afford it, I love my wife but she's a woman and women like the nice things in life and would rather get it without working for it

  • @alexisidro
    @alexisidro 2 года назад +127

    Grasping for air as i hear this story.

    • @crystalhull1677
      @crystalhull1677 2 года назад +4

      @Joseph Wright sounds like you have had a BIG shovel!

    • @markekins4769
      @markekins4769 2 года назад +4

      Grasp that air my friend

    • @ensignmjs7058
      @ensignmjs7058 2 года назад +4

      *Gasping

    • @matthewgardner2144
      @matthewgardner2144 2 года назад +4

      @Joseph Wright You're smart to do the anti-Ramsey and invest in your 401s as well as paying down the student loans. Well done.

    • @exvan3571
      @exvan3571 2 года назад +1

      Most don't "stick the landing" like Joseph did. Statistically and anecdotally, the caller marries this woman his chances of catastrophic failure and drama are high.

  • @giveme10feet
    @giveme10feet 2 года назад +36

    "Oh I know she's fantastic, but that's not what I'm talking about!" 😂 classic Dave. But on a serious note, what's the marriage rush? He could help her while they're unmarried, that way the debt can't become his and he can watch how she handles this without risk!

    • @kitty051299
      @kitty051299 2 года назад

      You make double in the military if you are married.

  • @tigerak02
    @tigerak02 2 года назад +25

    Simpin' ain't easy, keep debts separate, PRENUP

  • @brianmcg321
    @brianmcg321 2 года назад +101

    This dude needs to run.

    • @jeorgedavid3239
      @jeorgedavid3239 2 года назад +5

      Quick

    • @lj2192
      @lj2192 2 года назад +5

      Right? Plenty of fish in the sea.

    • @davem4193
      @davem4193 2 года назад +2

      Truer words have not been spoken.

  • @Rod_91ks
    @Rod_91ks 2 года назад +57

    RUN brother! This mess will take years to get fixed and there is a very good chance she might divorce you after the debt is paid off! The stakes are too high man.

  • @scottg4520
    @scottg4520 2 года назад +215

    How do men NOT hear about the horror stories of marrying/paying off debt just so the wife divorces?

    • @Opethfeldt
      @Opethfeldt 2 года назад +37

      Rose colored glasses. They want to believe they've found a girl who is "different" or "special". She may very well be but you don't know that until you've tried and why take the risk when there's better options out there. Love makes people blind.

    • @davidsebastianelli1326
      @davidsebastianelli1326 2 года назад +9

      @@Opethfeldt Marriage will open those same eyes.

    • @Mawyou
      @Mawyou 2 года назад +2

      I haven't heard these stories. But it sounds like something that probably does happen

    • @Semiam1
      @Semiam1 2 года назад +11

      Thinking with the wrong head.

    • @jaygold4467
      @jaygold4467 2 года назад +6

      Low self esteem.

  • @millerr9307
    @millerr9307 2 года назад +15

    Incredible that a guy so well put together financially can't see the warning signs flashing right in his face.

    • @jesseking9254
      @jesseking9254 Год назад

      It happens. I know from personal experience. I was worth 300k before I managed to get a date with a girl. Very dangerous position for a man to be in...

  • @cgasucks
    @cgasucks 2 года назад +50

    RUN Forest! Run!!

  • @ExplorationRandomDestination
    @ExplorationRandomDestination 2 года назад +167

    350k student debt to become a vet? That is crazy

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 2 года назад +5

      Not at all with the income generated from that it could mean a career wealthy of about $10 million.

    • @lt6986
      @lt6986 2 года назад +4

      Agreed but some of it is likely undergrad debt as well. It was probably 30-40k / year in undergrad and 40-55k / year for vet school.

    • @blackworldtraveler3711
      @blackworldtraveler3711 2 года назад +3

      @@bighands69
      It could maybe and maybe not.
      It’s remains crazy until that happens.

    • @HIRISK
      @HIRISK 2 года назад +3

      Medial field got these losers confused. They’re know realizing that they’re just WebMd analysts

    • @cesaravegah3787
      @cesaravegah3787 2 года назад +1

      They probably had pandas as lab animals.

  • @sydney2462
    @sydney2462 Год назад +8

    I absolutely would not wed someone with a debt that large.

  • @SolidTrades
    @SolidTrades 2 года назад +71

    He is so Naive !!! Bless his heart !!

  • @devinhawkins249
    @devinhawkins249 2 года назад +78

    DONT MARRY HER DUDE

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 2 года назад +1

      Of course he can marry her that debt is nothing compared to their potential career earnings and wealth that they can build.
      They need to rent for a few years or buy a small Mortgage house and pay that all of before moving to a nicer house.
      It would be different if she had that debt and was a Nurse or school teacher.

    • @hiteshadhikari
      @hiteshadhikari 2 года назад +13

      @@bighands69 they can wait until "potential career" has paid it off

    • @blackworldtraveler3711
      @blackworldtraveler3711 2 года назад +1

      @@bighands69
      No man or woman should marry “potential” like that until that insane debt is paid off.

    • @Joshua.Carrasco
      @Joshua.Carrasco 2 года назад +2

      Ironclad prenuptial

    • @alp.9672
      @alp.9672 2 года назад +1

      @@bighands69 you sound dumb, other way around she wouldn’t marry him

  • @garronl.7989
    @garronl.7989 2 года назад +382

    I'm not sure I'd marry anyone with $350k in debt. She paid a small fortune to become a vet. I'm surprised Dave advised him to run. 😄

    • @Dis_is_fine
      @Dis_is_fine 2 года назад +43

      I would advise him to only marry after she pays this off. Live together maybe, with finances completely separate. That’s what I would do and I’m a woman.

    • @Dis_is_fine
      @Dis_is_fine 2 года назад +4

      @Dementia Joe I thought common law was different than married?

    • @ednaramos727
      @ednaramos727 2 года назад +10

      @@Dis_is_fine once you're common law married, you have to go through the divorce process. Most states have certain requirements to be considered common law married. Just because you live together doesn't automatically make you married, at least here in Texas.

    • @Dad-979
      @Dad-979 2 года назад +12

      I wouldn’t recommend running with the little bit of information he shared. My wife had $250k in student loan debt (medical school) when we got married (2014) We were able to build a house ($400k), buy a vacation/rental property ($250k) and just became 100% COMPLETELY out of debt June 25th 2021!! IT IS POSSIBLE. It’s going to depend on them as a team. We grew up with nothing and know what it’s like and neither one of us want to be there again.

    • @offroadvehiclelover
      @offroadvehiclelover 2 года назад +4

      @@Dad-979 you basically confirmed what dave said man!

  • @Deb_BG
    @Deb_BG Год назад +18

    A degree in veterinary medicine can not be $350000. That's is insane.

    • @carolr7823
      @carolr7823 Месяц назад

      I'm guessing that it also includes her undergraduate degree.

    • @RealLeeAwkward
      @RealLeeAwkward 6 дней назад

      Oh but it is, check the four year cost of private or out of state schools like Midwestern or UPenn, easily above $400k

    • @Deb_BG
      @Deb_BG 6 дней назад

      Gosh. That is awful.

  • @pranavpillai7778
    @pranavpillai7778 2 года назад +56

    Becoming an attorney or a doctor in the past was a guarantee to financial success in previous generations. But in today's day it is a quite risky investment to go for. Many attorneys and doctors struggle to pay their debts.

    • @a.ashley5292
      @a.ashley5292 2 года назад +1

      i agree, but they say most doctors don't make it through their internship, either, if i remember correctly.

    • @morningmona
      @morningmona 8 месяцев назад +2

      I’m in one of those fields and in my 30s I make about 700-800k a year and paid off my 250k student loans. It was a good career choice and the initial debt was worth it.

    • @pranavpillai7778
      @pranavpillai7778 8 месяцев назад

      @@morningmona I'm in law school as well.

    • @0p0a0s4
      @0p0a0s4 3 месяца назад

      My vet school made it very clear that if you think you're going to make a lot of money that you're in the wrong profession. They push getting board certified so that we can get into the $200k-$300k range. Outside of that we're told to expect $70k-$90k.

  • @bellezanegra0206
    @bellezanegra0206 2 года назад +48

    Y’all didn’t coach him on what happens if she decides to dump him after they pay down the debt lol

    • @eckankar7756
      @eckankar7756 2 года назад +13

      I was thinking the same thing, he's not her dream boat, he's her life boat

  • @victoriagarcia5533
    @victoriagarcia5533 2 года назад +146

    Don’t marry her. That’s 350K for a vet.

    • @jeorgedavid3239
      @jeorgedavid3239 2 года назад +2

      Exactly

    • @haha-cm6pg
      @haha-cm6pg 2 года назад

      😅😅😅

    • @elijahbrown8675
      @elijahbrown8675 2 года назад +2

      If they are already living together why marry all marriage does is make each other responsible for the others actions including their debt. They can have a little wedding ceremony but don’t get the certificate from the courthouse that way the if she decides to be a stay at home mom the debt collectors won’t be able to touch his savings.

    • @elkellenhabla
      @elkellenhabla 2 года назад +8

      @@elijahbrown8675 they shouldn’t shack up if they’re married. That’s just childish. Be married or don’t be but don’t “play” house. Be adults.

  • @Nomad332
    @Nomad332 Год назад +7

    I love ramseys bluntness! He just gets right to the point, You cant get any better than that!

  • @rodneyholmes5260
    @rodneyholmes5260 2 года назад +137

    DON'T MARRY HER! That's a giant red flag. How a person manages debt demonstrates how fiscally responsible they are. Clearly, she's not responsible.

    • @han1218
      @han1218 2 года назад +5

      Listen to Rodney, WALK AWAY!!! :)))

    • @SlothnSteel
      @SlothnSteel 2 года назад +5

      @@han1218 run

    • @han1218
      @han1218 2 года назад +2

      @@SlothnSteel don't walk, run :)))

    • @gregoriopassport
      @gregoriopassport 2 года назад +1

      Run!!! You can find something way better.

    • @dunkinmonke1380
      @dunkinmonke1380 Год назад

      Jealous?

  • @yamamancha
    @yamamancha 2 года назад +239

    I never thought I'd see the day when Dave was this rational towards marrying a woman with debt.
    They need professional advisors to work through this. Financial planner, pre-marriage counseling, ongoing couple's therapy...
    A practical military man in logistics will start to crunch the numbers, start calculating cost performance, and value. This is certain to fail without a plan.

    • @hiteshadhikari
      @hiteshadhikari 2 года назад +20

      Dave has a soft spot for women

    • @erickqwesibentilmanie2382
      @erickqwesibentilmanie2382 2 года назад +18

      @@hiteshadhikari that’s the only thing I dislike about him

    • @littleripper312
      @littleripper312 2 года назад +3

      Stop with the gender stuff, just look at people as individuals. I get that others like Dave might be bias but it doesn't do anyone any good for you to be obsessed and preoccupied by gender inequality.

    • @yamamancha
      @yamamancha 2 года назад +20

      @@littleripper312 I guess you haven't listened to Dave for very long if you think I'm making this about gender....

    • @hiteshadhikari
      @hiteshadhikari 2 года назад +20

      @@littleripper312 oh the courts look at it gender wise, i can tell u that

  • @jungunanta8931
    @jungunanta8931 2 года назад +10

    No no $350k in debt...........No way would I marry her.... unless she pays it off before we get married otherwise bye bye

  • @MoonMoon-fx1op
    @MoonMoon-fx1op 2 года назад +3

    I don't even have to listen and watch the video. Run broseph

  • @Thebootyrater
    @Thebootyrater 2 года назад +675

    Don’t have any kids until she’s payed off majority of the debt. Don’t let her use the “I wanna be a stay at home mom” excuse.

    • @kara2162
      @kara2162 2 года назад +93

      ALL of her debt.

    • @michaelb.8953
      @michaelb.8953 2 года назад +41

      It's that exact mentality that would give me pause moving forward. Not to say she would pull that, but some woman would.

    • @jeorgedavid3239
      @jeorgedavid3239 2 года назад +46

      Don't marry her till she pay it all off

    • @cesaravegah3787
      @cesaravegah3787 2 года назад +17

      "ir you wanted that why expend so obscene amount of money on a degree You don't want to use?" That would be me, I supose that is one of the reasons I remain single, blunt as a brick.

    • @kara2162
      @kara2162 2 года назад +51

      @@michaelb.8953 A lot of women would. I'm a working mom and I am so sick of women coming into marriage with student loan debt and then pulling the SAHM card. Ridiculous.

  • @clericstorm2009
    @clericstorm2009 2 года назад +57

    No! Let her pay it off first, or get close to it, then marry.

    • @TB-ev2hg
      @TB-ev2hg 2 года назад +9

      Right, at least half of it. Demonstrate effort.

    • @uniqwiab8679
      @uniqwiab8679 2 года назад +8

      Yeah she needs to get a little over half paid off

    • @sd0753
      @sd0753 2 года назад +3

      Half paid off is still $175k. That is still too much for me to accept

  • @ozzyg4604
    @ozzyg4604 2 года назад +21

    With 350k I can buy another wife

  • @BB-re6nz
    @BB-re6nz 2 года назад +23

    Chiropractor here. In literally the same boat. Worst decision in my life was getting into this profession. Every day I like being pinned against the wall

  • @crooked52h
    @crooked52h 2 года назад +67

    Your not debt free if you get married to this 350k bill smfh

    • @fitnesschallenge1000
      @fitnesschallenge1000 2 года назад

      You’re

    • @fleurelise997
      @fleurelise997 2 года назад +5

      That's how you know he has no clue what he's getting himself into. He's going from zero debt to 350K. The shock to his system would be insane.

    • @jragon9215
      @jragon9215 2 года назад +1

      @@fleurelise997 and if he gets divorced he’s really going to be in a lot of pain

  • @SINCE-76
    @SINCE-76 2 года назад +57

    RUN DUDE RUN

  • @elenadelarosa1899
    @elenadelarosa1899 2 года назад +2

    Surprise! No personal accountability exist anymore. All this country is what sucker am I gonna dump my problems on and they better be grateful I chose them.

  • @discorabbit
    @discorabbit Год назад +3

    “I wanna have kids & stay home”
    350k in loan debt

  • @phipsdeus2
    @phipsdeus2 2 года назад +24

    What marriage!?!?

    • @phipsdeus2
      @phipsdeus2 2 года назад +5

      Multiple red flags: She had much more debt, will make more money, if she doesn’t already, and he is good with money! She found a mark. I want to him to call back in five years for an update.

  • @chickencharlie4539
    @chickencharlie4539 2 года назад +25

    Holy cow. 350. That's torture.

  • @Rudy4759
    @Rudy4759 2 года назад +8

    Play it safe brother. Wait till she pays her debt first and when she’s done paying it, if you guys still loves each other, then marry her. Some women get bored easily and can change their minds at any time. Especially when her significant other is away for long periods of time.

  • @maynardewm
    @maynardewm 2 года назад +7

    As soon as she has kids, she's going decide that she's "too burned out" to keep working full time.

  • @mannyjeanpierre4062
    @mannyjeanpierre4062 2 года назад +69

    SELL THE GIRLFRIEND!!!!!

    • @handleyobusiness
      @handleyobusiness 2 года назад +4

      He will only get $40 back. 😅

    • @offroadvehiclelover
      @offroadvehiclelover 2 года назад +4

      Rick, best i can do is 1.00$ taking on all the risks here.

    • @MsArtemis01
      @MsArtemis01 2 года назад +1

      @@handleyobusiness 1cent. 🤣

    • @yoleeisbored
      @yoleeisbored Год назад

      Lol make her get her tubes tied

  • @Mr_Fairdale
    @Mr_Fairdale 2 года назад +15

    Simpin’ is dangerous business, man.

    • @alp.9672
      @alp.9672 2 года назад +3

      100% what he is. Caller is beta.

  • @agentooe33AD
    @agentooe33AD 2 года назад +6

    Yeah my buddy married a girl with $65k student loan debt. He's not paying on it, but neither is she.

  • @I_like_turtles_67
    @I_like_turtles_67 2 года назад +4

    " That's gonna be a no for me dog. " - Randy Jackson.

  • @DemetriPanici
    @DemetriPanici 2 года назад +59

    That is absolutely NUTS

  • @hollon1697
    @hollon1697 2 года назад +142

    And she will absolutely have kids and scale back part time

    • @janelleg597
      @janelleg597 2 года назад +18

      Absolutely is a strong word for a rando internet stranger who doesn't know anything about their plans. Insufferable know-it-all

    • @Thebootyrater
      @Thebootyrater 2 года назад +32

      @@janelleg597 well that’s what women tend to do so 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @Mitzi73
      @Mitzi73 2 года назад +6

      Agree!

    • @krassimirpetrov7131
      @krassimirpetrov7131 2 года назад

      No doubt

    • @truckerman9112
      @truckerman9112 2 года назад +10

      And then divorce him and take half of his stuff

  • @OFFTHEDOMEApparel
    @OFFTHEDOMEApparel 2 года назад +2

    sounds like she tryna find her way out ..... heck no i would not get married until she take care of that debt on her own!!!

  • @tmc187
    @tmc187 2 года назад +9

    As a woman I think she should pay at least half of it before marriage and never stop working once married. Thank God for good men like this one.

  • @talyahr3302
    @talyahr3302 2 года назад +13

    The cost of vet school is why I didn't go to vet school when it used to be my dream. I have $20k of school debt now still, but boy is that much better than $350k.

    • @jaredfrazier2216
      @jaredfrazier2216 5 месяцев назад

      If it was your dream you could have joined the military and used that route

  • @run4cmt
    @run4cmt 2 года назад +6

    I recently met a vet that was 45 and still paying off student loans. He thought he would be working until at least 70.

  • @NirvanaFreak0872
    @NirvanaFreak0872 2 года назад +4

    Don't do it.

  • @patty109109
    @patty109109 2 года назад +9

    Average veterinarian salary is $125k. Her debt load is absurd for that career. You’re gonna be paying this for at least another decade. Particularly when kids come along, you buy a house, cars. You might be stuck with this till 40. Just being realistic.

    • @patty109109
      @patty109109 2 года назад

      @Rich Casino Not sure--I just googled average vet salary :)

  • @Vdeepak2011
    @Vdeepak2011 2 года назад +50

    Let her clear atleast half of 350k first before marrying.

    • @Mitzi73
      @Mitzi73 2 года назад +4

      Exactly!

    • @jeorgedavid3239
      @jeorgedavid3239 2 года назад +10

      She need to pay it in full not half

  • @kevinclose5601
    @kevinclose5601 2 года назад +11

    John’s comment at the end explaining how “grandma had her arm inside a cow’s you know what…” 😜😂😂😂

  • @papasquat355
    @papasquat355 2 года назад +3

    What a nightmare. Reminds me of a Bill Burr joke. Run as far and fast as you can.

  • @anthonywebster8638
    @anthonywebster8638 2 года назад +13

    This guy should have called Coach Greg Adams instead of Dave Ramsey.

  • @chrisryan48
    @chrisryan48 2 года назад +105

    The wife and I both went to state schools. We both received business degrees and graduated with no dept.. We make a little less than $400k. There’s no need to take on student loan debt to get a good job.

    • @user-es5jq6yy9l
      @user-es5jq6yy9l 2 года назад +10

      not if you went to medical, pharmacy or dental school

    • @littleripper312
      @littleripper312 2 года назад +14

      She's a vet and went to professional school, it's different and very expensive. But yea her loan is too high even for vet school.

    • @kingbran923
      @kingbran923 2 года назад +10

      No one tells you that when you’re 18 looking to go to school. I wish someone would have told me or that I was wise enough to look at all my options when I was 18 but what’s done is done

    • @swisschalet1658
      @swisschalet1658 2 года назад

      @@user-es5jq6yy9l Not true. People do it regularly without debt.

    • @charliele3165
      @charliele3165 2 года назад +10

      @@swisschalet1658 Pharmacy school is at least $100K a year. Dental school is like $200K. My sister graduated debt-free from pharmacy school because my parents helped pay for it. My wife graduated with $120K because her parents couldn’t. No one is graduating with these degrees debt-free unless they have help or scholarships.

  • @Simplynieceee_
    @Simplynieceee_ 2 года назад +8

    My fiancé went to pharmacy school and He is in $300k in debt. No one has ever told me to run away from him.

    • @adrianmechelle3784
      @adrianmechelle3784 2 года назад +3

      The people here are miserable. If you are both equally yoked, you can attack the debt together and succeed.

    • @Yandel21ableify
      @Yandel21ableify 2 года назад +3

      You should run away from him...lol

    • @Simplynieceee_
      @Simplynieceee_ 2 года назад +1

      @@Yandel21ableify explain why

    • @Yandel21ableify
      @Yandel21ableify 2 года назад +4

      @@Simplynieceee_ If your husband where to die, you would still have to pay his student loans. Student loans are unforgivable.

    • @melanieb2132
      @melanieb2132 2 года назад +2

      @@Yandel21ableify they are forgiven if the student loan holder dies.. unless private loans

  • @kenwilcox1810
    @kenwilcox1810 2 года назад +22

    Time for him to take the red pill.

  • @annatar6453
    @annatar6453 2 года назад +5

    Bro, RUN and don’t look back!

  • @smithrr6
    @smithrr6 2 года назад +192

    She needs to pay that student debt off before you sign the marriage certificate. If that takes her so long that you want to break up and find another girlfriend, that is OK as well. Don't be a SIMP to this veterinarian that is so far into debt that she needs captain saveaho to rescue her from her own decisions. You don't want to start a marriage this far into the negatives that it is very easy to blame each other and be at each other's throats and have a very high high chance of divorce. Don't set your self up for failure. A hot chic that works as a cashier with no debt is better than this.

    • @slinkster1772
      @slinkster1772 2 года назад +4

      Agreed

    • @garethsmith1436
      @garethsmith1436 2 года назад +15

      Yep he sounds like a complete simp. Why get married? What benefit is he getting from the deal??

    • @Adil729
      @Adil729 2 года назад

      👏👏

    • @Adil729
      @Adil729 2 года назад +5

      @@garethsmith1436 None lol

    • @MsMaxinejoy
      @MsMaxinejoy 2 года назад +1

      Agreed!

  • @NSGLiv
    @NSGLiv 2 года назад +3

    I wouldn’t marry her, he needs to run

  • @johnallen3497
    @johnallen3497 2 года назад +4

    He needs to leave her today

  • @bkucenski
    @bkucenski 2 года назад +38

    She's looking for someone to pay off her student loans for her. She needs to establish herself in her career and an attitude towards paying down that debt. You're not buying a house until those student loans are gone. She's a walking disaster. You're a military person who is going to be deployed while she's home by herself.
    Give a few years working in her field making a huge dent on that debt before you sign off on her.
    Never put your name on her student loans. If you get divorced, her student loans are hers. They don't get split in a divorce.

  • @mbank3832
    @mbank3832 2 года назад +5

    she isn't looking for a husband, she needs an ATM. being simps ain't cheap lol

  • @sarahhilton7964
    @sarahhilton7964 2 года назад +6

    Unfortunately, nowadays, if you marry a doctor of any sort they will be bringing in $150K minimum in student loans. Most doctors I know have about $300K-350K+. And salaries are lowering in comparison.

  • @MrBrewman95
    @MrBrewman95 2 года назад +2

    Sell the girlfriend.

  • @davecopp9356
    @davecopp9356 2 года назад +17

    Finally Dave was on the right side with his advice.

    • @han1218
      @han1218 2 года назад +1

      The other guy didn't. Simp alert.

  • @marig7640
    @marig7640 2 года назад +3

    I was a school counselor for 12 years and I strongly counseled student to have debt more than 100 thousand in debt! I work pro bono with clients to help them dig out if a mess like this. It is unacceptable to me that we allow students to take this debt on. With that said, I strongly advised my daughter to ask that college debt question on the 1st and/or second date! I commend this gentleman for his willingness to accept the challenge! Best of luck to them both!

  • @dontaewhitfield9127
    @dontaewhitfield9127 2 года назад +4

    RUN LOL !!!! Dave is the reason i now encourage people to get out of Debt

  • @ianmorrison5474
    @ianmorrison5474 2 года назад +2

    The word 'run' came to my mind as well.

  • @ryankiel4895
    @ryankiel4895 2 года назад +7

    It's never good when the caller says the level of debt and then Dave puts his head down into his hands hahaha. 0:58

    • @a.ashley5292
      @a.ashley5292 2 года назад +1

      hah! don't forget the "good lord!" part.

  • @joelcervantes2208
    @joelcervantes2208 2 года назад +27

    And here I was worried about my little 2k debt 😂😂😂

  • @angelatheriault8855
    @angelatheriault8855 2 года назад +13

    I’m sorry but I would wait for at least a year and see how hard she starts tackling her debt. If she’s dedicated and goes all in then she might be worth taking the risk, otherwise, nope.

  • @vicmone4430
    @vicmone4430 2 года назад +2

    She leaving after you help her pay it off bro. Run!

  • @E36ASAP
    @E36ASAP 2 года назад +8

    This the first girl to give 😺 to this guy and he doesn't wanna lose her. She runs the relationship based on his tone of voice. She getting the better end of the deal because he's gonna do whatever to pay her debt