Who Was the First Death? | Fnaf Theory

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
  • This video had so many problems, I'm glad it's finally done. lol

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  • @Elle_Brielle_Elle
    @Elle_Brielle_Elle 4 месяца назад +17

    If Elizabeth's death was an accident, why did Afton try to keep her away from the animatronics?

    • @TheoryReplayZ
      @TheoryReplayZ  4 месяца назад +3

      It’s possible Afton knew about the glitch and simply ignored it, but besides that I’m not sure. Thank you for pointing this out to me.

    • @The_Reverser
      @The_Reverser 4 месяца назад +2

      Probably because the Funtimes were, and still are experimental. I mean, why else put them in a bunker.

    • @TheoryReplayZ
      @TheoryReplayZ  4 месяца назад +1

      I presented the idea of a glitch in my video, that’s the glitch I was referring to. I understand the lore fine, it’s the fact that more and more things are getting flipped on its head so we have to start questioning what we knew as fact and see if it still stands.

    • @The_Reverser
      @The_Reverser 4 месяца назад +2

      @PETERTHEGAMER69 @TheoryReplayZ Peter, just because there isn’t evidence doesn’t make this irrelevant. It’s called a theory. A theory is a potential explanation or idea for something, so you can be mad all you want, but let Theory cook his good crap.

    • @The_Reverser
      @The_Reverser 4 месяца назад +2

      I also think that the theory of a glitch is plausible, I mean it’s new technology, what do you expect?

  • @xxsadaviousxx
    @xxsadaviousxx 4 месяца назад +7

    Very nice video. And Jojo reference intro‼️💯🔥. Hope ya get famous some day

  • @Antonio_Cunh
    @Antonio_Cunh 4 месяца назад +11

    from the dialogues of william afton in sister location and circus baby saying that she counted the children(that being programed in her, for when one was alone she would snatch them ) i think the funtimes were allways meant to kill
    So although Elizabeth was not meant to be the one to die i do think circus baby and the other ones were allways murder robots.
    Apart from that this was a great video (sorry if my english was weird, it's not my main language)

    • @davelee5621
      @davelee5621 4 месяца назад +1

      Don't worry we're okay with it

  • @yamen9952
    @yamen9952 4 месяца назад +3

    keep going bro, your videos are amazing. its very rare to see this level of editing this early into a channels life. very good job👍

  • @tf9241
    @tf9241 4 месяца назад +4

    This came into my recommended and I didn’t have a chance to watch it. I had to literally hunt this video down and it is totally worth it. I love a good FNAF timeline theory

  • @GOLDEN_1983
    @GOLDEN_1983 2 месяца назад +2

    Ima say what my theory is.
    I believe the crying child died first believe in fnaf world theres a line that says: "What is seen in the shadows is easily misunderstood in the mind of a child." So i believe in the fnaf 4 game: "dont you remember what you saw." Is the workers putting on the springlock suits, so i would assume cc though the suits were eating them, and that would explain why the nightmares have such sharp teeth.
    And in my opinion Elizabeth didnt die first. the funtime robot were programed to capture and kill children. Because why would a child be inside the funtime robots(cb and funtime freddy) in the blue prints. And the claw in cb, how would Elizabeth's death happen by a error? I know it says cbs claw is ment for ice-cream but if cb's claw is ment for ice-cream, how can it can some how lift a child and be strong enough to pull Elizabeth inside of cb. (And I believe the claw on scrap baby's hand or used to be her hand is the claw that captured Elizabeth, because where could it had come from, and that claw looks pretty sharp for something that is ment for ice-cream, it looks more of a claw to capture children.
    I believe the order is: cc, Charlie (im still trying to figure out if the missing children died before or after Elizabeth, but ima say Elizabeth died after the missing children.)
    My reason is the missing children were killed, then stuffed in suits, but Elizabeth got full on technical killed by the robot itself, so thats much more advance, so i would assume Elizabeth's death happened sometime after the missing children. (I know this isn't the best reason, but its something.)
    (Btw im not hating on you nor trying to in anyway. I still believe your theory is really good. 👍)

    • @TheoryReplayZ
      @TheoryReplayZ  2 месяца назад +1

      Something I learned after making this video is that there is a good chance that Henry was the person who made baby. He had made her in the silver eyes, and the grey guy at the end of fnaf world might be Henry, who says they made something horrible. Just something to consider.
      Besides that though, it’s still a possibility that CC died first.

  • @Takejiro24
    @Takejiro24 19 дней назад +1

    Aren't there Faz-Tokens in Security Breach/Ruin that have text that tell us that Freddy Fazbear's Pizza was opened since 1983? That would eliminate Elizabeth from being the first to die.

    • @TheoryReplayZ
      @TheoryReplayZ  19 дней назад +1

      On the contrary, Fredbear’s Family Diner and Circus Baby’s could be open before that. I definitely need to redo this video because there is a lot I missed.

  • @abdullaalmansouri2038
    @abdullaalmansouri2038 4 месяца назад +9

    My guess
    First the crying child aka Evan Afton
    Second Charlotte Emily
    Third Cassidy and other kids
    Fourth Elizabeth Afton

  • @vincentmorris8431
    @vincentmorris8431 4 месяца назад +2

    While I'd believe the Funtimes were always intended to kidnap, I am thinking that William would off the youngsters himself. The bots might just hold them, but Elizabeth happened to be an unfortunate exception. Less related, but I also read a Baby fic where a boy and his older sister were caught in Freddy, and their demise was hunger - gosh that outta be slow and painful...
    While Mat didn't place the Funtimes earlier due to the whole William motive thing, I do enjoy how he worded it for post 2 in his timeline. I'm also tempted to let Elizabeth experience the 2 location though I know the dismantled Foxy toy doesn't necessarily back it up.
    As great as it is to have a Baby model that opens, do still take a little issue with how the interior is exposed loose wires, and I imagine the arm is more of a reuse. And I don't buy the 2nd guides claim of Scraps claw being the same, not only how pointy it is, but also how huge it is
    I think the dolls biggest tie would it being the Puppet Master level, another name case.
    I still bias toward CC, Charlie, MCI, Elizabeth, but this was a pretty interesting dive.

  • @dillydraws
    @dillydraws 4 месяца назад +3

    The thing is. The funtimes are way too advance to think they were made in the late 70s or before any of the animatronics that have a more realistic/older design. The springlocks are advance enough to be state of the art but still fit that early 80s engineering with springs and basic endos. The funtimes are more inline with the toys which would place them around 1987. Now circus baby pizza world had to come after a closing of a freddys location after success. Granted the hand unit only talks about the rental location but it wouldn't make sense to bring up how the location was only opened for 1 day.
    Now for the empty girls room. I don't see how people can just jump to thinking "Oh his sister is dead" because empty girls room is just circumstantial at best. "The nightmares all having stomach mouths which means he saw baby eat his sister" another thing people say which doesn't make sense since only fredbear has the stomach mouth and none of the others, why would he have that design and not I don't know, BABY why isn't she in his nightmares with fredbear stealing her mouth. I think the easiest answer to "don't you know what you saw" was explained in the game. He saw a worker put on a fredbear suit and think he ate the person, which is why he still like freddy and the game and goes with the theme of "What is seen in shadows is easily misunderstood by the mind of a child" and if he saw an actual death then all the teasing and theme is kinda lessened since his crying is justified.
    I think basing this on purely Occam's razor and design language and what fits for the story fnaf is telling.
    CC 1983 (tragic death of a scared kid who misunderstood something with less advance animatronics)
    Charlie 1983? maybe (drunken rage that lead to her death outside a pizzeria)
    MCI 1985
    Elizabeth 1986
    The last two I'm a bit iffy on but feel pretty good on the first two.

    • @TheoryReplayZ
      @TheoryReplayZ  4 месяца назад

      I do think it’s possible for the Funtimes to be made earlier, William seems like the type to over compensate by making some high tech looking futuristic robot, but besides that everything you’ve said makes sense. I’m still going to take things from earlier in the timeline with a grain of salt though, mainly because I’m not sure how much of the story Scott had planned out, so details might have been changed. And also thank you for the constructive criticism.

  • @Smiley_404
    @Smiley_404 3 месяца назад +2

    5:18 In FFPS rare screens there are in universe posters that give lore hints, like puppet being lefty, and the relationship of the afton family. I don't see a reason for why this shouldn't be relevant.

    • @TheoryReplayZ
      @TheoryReplayZ  3 месяца назад

      The posters didn’t seem to hold much information besides reassuring who is who in the Afton family. They don’t really seem to give any information as to who died when.

  • @Duckduckmoose132
    @Duckduckmoose132 4 месяца назад +3

    I think susie probably died in early 1984 and Charlie in late 1984

    • @Subforexoticbutters
      @Subforexoticbutters 4 месяца назад +1

      If you search it up, she died outside of Fredbear’s family diner in 1983

    • @8The-angel8
      @8The-angel8 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Subforexoticbutters it's not confirmed

    • @Subforexoticbutters
      @Subforexoticbutters 4 месяца назад

      @@8The-angel8 you can search it up if u’d like

    • @TheoryReplayZ
      @TheoryReplayZ  4 месяца назад

      It’s both of her deaths mashed together. In fnaf 6 she died outside an unnamed pizzeria, in the silver eyes she died in a fredbear’s specifically a closet.

    • @Subforexoticbutters
      @Subforexoticbutters 4 месяца назад

      @@TheoryReplayZ when you search it up, you will see “Charlotte Emily died outside of Fredbear’s family diner in 1983

  • @UltraShaggy613
    @UltraShaggy613 4 месяца назад +2

    Dang bro he turned into matpat, but hey, i really like this video it was so clear and it was amazing

  • @kalkuttadrop6371
    @kalkuttadrop6371 4 месяца назад +1

    Can I pitch a theory idea to you? It's about FNAF 1, William, Remnant, and Phone Guy, and it ties up a lot of loose ends and weirdness in a clean way.

    • @TheoryReplayZ
      @TheoryReplayZ  4 месяца назад

      Fire away

    • @kalkuttadrop6371
      @kalkuttadrop6371 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@TheoryReplayZ There's two halves, the part I'm certain about and the more iffy stretch part. If it's in there cool, if not I hope you hear me out.
      Let me set the stage with a fact. FNAF 1's location is the ONLY time in the whole series where Guards being murdered at night by animatronics was a regular occurrence. It's easy to forget that as it was the first game in the series, but it's true.
      FNAF 2's location only ever had 3 guards. The first guy was William and he got out after a Week. Second guy was Jeremy who survived the Nightshift(but probably got his frontal lobe nibbled off on the following Dayshift), and the Third Guy was Fritz who is probably Micheal. There's also some notable revelations here I'll get back to in a minute.
      FNAF 3, one guard, probably Micheal(though some fringe theorists think it's Henry), they live. FNAF 4, no guards. FNAF SL...this one is actually kind of hard to say, FNAF 6, one guard, Micheal, dies but not because of animatronics.
      FNAF 2 also establishes via Phone Guy that this is the first time this sort of thing has ever happened. Guard 1's reports were thought of as impossible and it's only during Jeremy's week they start to figure out a theory(the bare endoskeleton thing) and offer up some solutions. This tells us the original location that was open for a bit after the murders either didn't have nightguards(makes sense enough, no big crime, no need) or the Puppet hadn't gotten to them yet. It also tells us Guard fatalities are something they're actively trying to avoid.
      But in FNAF 1? There's a whole procedure for it. Body removed, property cleaned and bleached, carpets replaced, missing person report within 90 days. A institutional solution for it combined with Phone Guy's "Most people don't last this long" implies MANY guards at this location have come and perished before Micheal arrives in 92/93(doesn't matter, but TLDR 93 has never been proven. Matpat picked it because of the Aurora Chuck E Cheese incident, the tax data said it could be anywhere from 1991-1996, and the Faz Fact that referenced it was cut and might not be canon. But that would have the work week not align with FNAF 2, which is Sunday-Saturday and has Friday the 13th as your last payday. 1992 is the only other date in which Friday the 13th and the work week line up.)
      This means that not only have a ton of guards died, but there's a procedure for it, meaning the company is both aware and doesn't care. But why? This isn't hugely profitable 2030s Fazbear entertainment sweeping a few missing kids and staff under the rug, this is 1990s floundering Fazbear. Why waste so much many dealing with dozens of dead guards...unless...gathering dead guards is the goal.
      Let me ask another question. Who is running the show in the 1990s? Henry is out the timeline from the mid 80s until right before FNAF 6, maybe he's hiding in guilt, heck, I personally buy the theory he was framed(explaining the newspaper clipping saying the suspect was convicted) and spent a couple decades in jail, starting on the FNAF 6 project right after getting out. But even if he was here, Henry would never allow any of this to happen. And I already explained above why the faceless corporate overlord types, or even Miss Afton if you wanna bring that up, wouldn't do this. The profit motive isn't there. The location is a crumbling mess and the cleanup procedure is massive and expensive.
      That only leaves our boy William Afton, who is alive at this point, was free as recently as 1987, and we have zero evidence he was charged for the DCI/SAVE THEM incident. William Afton was running the FNAF 1 location and funding the cleanups of stuffed, dead, guards. But why?
      Well, for years the fandom has talked of William doing remnant experiments, soul experiments, maybe even agony experiments. That's how we get the theory the original 5 souls may have ended up in Funtime Freddy and Ballora and eventually in Molten Freddy and The Blob. But would William really have stuck to the same handful of souls, especially as he seemingly didn't want to mess with his daughter? Why not get a larger sample size, recreate the suffering? But kids are too risky to go after, he's done that twice and gotten away by the skin of his teeth. People care about kids, but what about poor working class blokes? Transients? People no one would notice if they suddenly were to vanish.
      I'm of the belief the FNAF 1 location, Bear themed restaurant and all, is a honey pot. It's a trap. It would certainly explain things like the door design and power supply. Transients, Desperate people, poor workers down on their luck, read a newspaper ad, dead in a few days, stuffed and ready for testing. This theory predates the Movie, but the Movie absolutely backs it up with him encouraging people to take the job. The location may have closed in 92/93, but the FNAF 2 ending and Phone Guy lines suggest it may have opened up far sooner than that, within a year of the FNAF 2 location closing. Dozens of men could have died there before the place finally closed at 'years end' a few weeks after Micheals run.
      And seemingly it didn't work. Maybe because the suffering wasn't enough. Maybe these men lacked the hope to hold on that the kids did, drained by a terrible life prior. Or maybe it's simply because The Puppet had cottoned on and wasn't going to help bring anyone back. Not anymore.(We know they were at the FNAF 1 location, both from the timeline and the FNAF 2 cutscenes, yet we never see them. Curious). So eventually as the place shut down William decided to take a closer look at the originals. Break them up, study their bits, perhaps reuse them. What made them special? And it would explain why that original remnant kept being re-used, the circumstances were specific and it was so hard to get more. They were no longer needed as unintentional killers.
      And Sister Location? Which most people place next to FNAF 1 in the timeline(either before or after depends). While it's not as blatant, it's the only other location with HINTS of prior guard fatalities. Plus the two technitions. Curious then this is the one place we know was fully a William operation.
      That's the main theory. All above. FNAF 1 location is a trap to lure in guards to get stuffed and use for remnant experiments. It didn't work, so William eventually scrapped the animatronics to study directly after it closed.
      Ok, here's the bit of a stretch part.
      Phone Guy. The eternal enigma. Leading candidate to be the Purple Guy for over a year. We know he was innocent, and in hindsight it was kind of obvious from the start(The FNAF 2 phonecalls very clearly tell us it's the Dayshift Guard/Former Nightguars, and they aren't the same person as Phone Guy. Heck they trick Phone Guy). But he's definitely sketchy. He helps hide what's going on in the FNAF 2 location, covers up Springsuit fatalities, organizes the saferooms being sealed, and knows very well what's happening to all the guards at the FNAF 1 location. He's not a killer, but he is a diehard company loyalist who has been complicit in and helped cover up numerous crimes. Bit of a toadie.
      And we also have evidence William has blackmailed and threatened people more than once. He got the Funtime Designs past those execs who knew what they were for. SOMEONE was arrested in the 80s for the MCI and it clearly wasn't him. (Henry is the prime theory as it explains a bunch of other things, but back in the day a popular option was 'the guy in the foxy costume from Foxy Go Go' or 'One of the other bullies from Fnaf 4).
      This coo-coo banana pants theory is that Phone Guy was essentially strong-armed into being William's igor and right hand man in running the FNAF 1 location, handling the logistics of the new hires and managing the clean ups. Phone Guy is a toadie to start with(as shown above) and William could easily threaten to either frame him for the DCI/Save Them, or just leak all the audio of Phone Guy covering up various deaths on behalf of Fazbear over the years(probably edited to relieve William of any blame). The tapes were in the same room as Springbonnie, he has access to them. That would explain why Phone Guy, while not being THE killer, is clearly involved in so much nasty business. Toadie to William to the end, especially when being credibly threatened.
      It would also explain why in FNAF 1, despite towing the line and never fully telling you to 'leave and never come back' or something sensible like that, he does TRY to give subtle hints to either help you out or warn out without crossing the line. His previous deeds were very impersonal and detatched, he was the middleman, not the cause. Now he's directly involved like never before, he can't write off the blame in his mind anymore, "only following orders" is a lot harder when you're there in person and leading people to their deaths directly. (BTW, great title for a Phone Guy theory video. Only Following Orders). So he's trying desperately to get some warnings out in-between dismissing them and legal jargon and lying to you about the cause of the malfunction.
      This would also explain his fate. While Phone Guy had nominally been a guard since the place opened(as indicated by his FNAF 2 dialogue), it was obviously more of a training role, head guard, served only on paper in a lot of ways. He wasn't doing it weekly for all those years. But I'm guessing his disobediance and evidence of trying to sneak out warnings eventually came to Williams attention. Which combined with the fact all the Stuffed Guards were not working out in the experiments and William was probably getting angry...he sent Phone Guy to do things in person, and ensured he'd never come back.
      It was indeed his last week, just as promised.

    • @TheoryReplayZ
      @TheoryReplayZ  4 месяца назад

      I honestly love this theory. Fnaf 1 is by far one of the most confusing games to me and this theory would explain a lot if true. With the use of Williams manipulation tactics and remnant experiments it helps sell the idea even further. It also give a solid explanation to why phone guy is the way he is. Off the top of my head the only thing that might give troubles to this theory is whether “follow me” takes place before or after fnaf 1, but besides that I don’t see any problems with it. I highly suggest sharing this with other people to get their input too, because there might be stuff that I’m not remembering. Amazing theory tho. 👍

    • @kalkuttadrop6371
      @kalkuttadrop6371 4 месяца назад +2

      @@TheoryReplayZ has to be after the animatronics are destroyed

    • @kalkuttadrop6371
      @kalkuttadrop6371 4 месяца назад +2

      @@TheoryReplayZ Feel free to make a vid using the concept as a basis if you want I'm game I just want to see it out there