Nah , State Property reached the level they were supposed to be. Here is an example. I was watching an Allen Iverson interview recently and he told a story about running into Kobe Bryant one night. Kobe asked him what are you about to do, AI said we headed to the club you should come with us and Kobe told him I can't I'm headed to the gym...Cam and Dipset were in the gym (Studio) no matter who was there. Kanye did his whole 1st album in between studio sessions he was producing for other Roc-a-fella artists even though they only wanted him as a producer. He was busting his behind in the gym (studio). I never heard of Oschino being in the studio like that. If you trying to be in the music industry staying out of jail should be your goal. How these so called street dudes be getting finessed out of their product and then blame others. Did Oschino do everything he was supposed to to be successful?
Like 50 said, they’ll always come out having a problem with you not because of something fucked up you did TO them, but something they feel you didn’t do FOR them. The funny thing is, the most successful ones never seem to have those stories. Even if they’ve got gripes with specific people, you’ll almost never hear those stories. Rocafella was owned by THREE people and a company. Dame, Jay and Biggs owned half with Def Jam owning the other half. Yet somehow the story always gets painted as “Jay” being the one who did everything wrong as if he was the sole boss and controller of the business.
Jay-Z told them State Property boyz to flood the streets with music put out a lot of work cause 50 cent is coming nobody in that camp moved and 50 took the streets as he should if anything Oschino was suppose to be the guy because he had a real story behind him and we was all waiting but he didn't take advantage of his opportunity and here's where we at .
That dont mean it's no truth to what he sayin. A problem in the black community. We always friends with the rich guy. Never challenging how he got rich. The end justifies the means? What if the means was the exploitation of YOU?
I knew who O was when Jadakiss had him first. He was around the Ruff Ryders first but he was the only Philly nigga hanging with the RR camp. Somehow he ended up around The Roc and he was from Philly and The Roc was recruiting them Philly boys back then. So, the move for O kinda made sense.
We wouldn't even know these niggas if not for Jay.. Sometimes you gotta see the opportunity beyond the current situations in life. Niggas had every chance to be in a position to have carved out a lane that still benefits them to this day. Niggas get a bag from rap and think they'll be able to sustain from just rap forever. When that kinda money comes in you gotta think invest because it just might not come the same tomorrow
@@DC-xp4bl nigga you work? If so and you don't own it then you're being exploited. Thats called business. Buy low, sell high, pay the least to get the most.. But nah, Jay a nigga so he supposed to "look out" smh.
I get both sides, jay said no in court for being responsible for beans cause he knew he couldn't control him & jay is a Businessman. Beans is like I'm sitting in this funky jail cmon dog I'm your man! How can you just leave me here? I see both sides, Shoutout to Moschino for always acknowledging Jay's influence on his rap career. Good & Bad.
Facts o gotta stop this nonsense .now I kinda see how hov do not wanna fuck with y’all !!tried to do too much lawyer/rapper last days of the roc classic blunder!!lol
I can see why, Beans a grown ass man. nobody shouldnt have to be responsible for another grown man unless its his son. and Beans was a hot head then. let him do something and Jay z supposed to be responsible for him. he going down too
Yo tripping if jay vouch for Beanie who had a hard time listening and showing self control. They would have tried to jack Jay up behind it FOH I you can't govern yourself the state will govern you for you.
@@darionjackson2599 How can you vouch for a man who would not listen to you . Beans was a thug for Jay ." yes judge i got him". judge-" Mr carter the man you vouched for shot a man in the belly .We will hold you responsible for that crime because you said you would mind him".
@@justicenotjustus2688 bruh that’s bullshit! The judge couldn’t have held Jay accountable if Beans had done something wrong lol... And the judge didn’t just flat out ask him would he be responsible for him... He asked him would he be “willing” to... It’s just like O said just say yes because it can possibly knock ya boys time down, it ain’t like you really gotta do it...
You obviously haven't been in the streets or court, when a judge ask somebody will they be responsible they are basically asking do you want this person out of jail today or not it's as simple as that. If you say no the judge is gonna be thinking why do you even know this person it makes you look stupid. So jay z saying no is mad disrespectful.
If that's your man and the judge ask you would you be responsible for your man, you suppose to say yes. Even if you have no intentions on being responsible for him. It's like a co-sign without signing anything. Thing is, Jay didn't consider him a friend. He considered him to be his employee.
I understand that the person being interviewed can only answer the questions that they are asked by the interviewer but hearing label mates talk about Jay Z stories is becoming lame. The people conducting the interviews need to do a better job and ask different questions. Also, a man talking about how another man should spend his money is suspect to me. Maybe O needs to build a school where he is from and make sure his kids and the kids of his former label mates have college scholarships.
Facts....I see stuff like this and “what we talking bout” from BP3 comes to mind. Jay talked his reality into existence. You don’t gotta like it but you will respect it. Nighty night lol
He could’ve maybe if jay them ain’t Pimp them Boi’s so hard. Young guns had number one record, jay gave them young boys 1k per show. That’s how he got his money, fucking over his people. Frfr.
Jay is a billionaire, but in his mind is he's still a rapper and he's intimidated by other rappers. That's normal. This is why he's signing all the new cats to roc nation because it keeps him relevant and he stays on top. Jay was a sucka for doing back door shit. Roc Da Mic was Freeway/State Property's first major hit. Jay took the name and made the Roc Da Mic tour his tour and pimped all the rappers and kept most of the money. In my opinion, Dame went hard for SP. He showed up to the video shoots, he supported them every step of the way photoshoots, clothing, etc. Dame could've been a dirty nigga too if he wanted to, but Dame upbringing is different from Jay. Dame is more loyal. Jay was behind the scenes doing sucka shit. I guess he did what he had to do because he was getting older and decided to snake his crew so that he can secure his future. Rap game is dirty.
You gotta fix that title if you want to keep things 💯! He was very careful how he said it and O a real one from what I can tell, but he phrased it that Jay has Succa ways! Sounds the same if you don’t know any better!
I can respect him speaking his truth. I don't consider it hate, but I do find it strange that we hear that Jay took the song " Give it to Me" from the youngin'. I agree Jay could have given him a production credit. Jay did the same with Ja Rule with "Can I get a", now I don't know if the songs would have had the same level of success without Jay, maybe it would maybe not. I know Ja Rule a lot of hits after that. Where was his other "Give it to Me"? Where was his other songs that would have been his big hits? I don't know I wasn't there, but I find it hard to believe that every song that would have been a hit for any of State Property, Jay Z just took. So where are those records? 2nd why would you want another man to give scholarships to children of SP members? Your children's scholarship was the opportunity he gave you guys to change your lives. If you really wanted to make sure your children had scholarship you should have been sleeping in the studio, I never heard him tell that story. "Man we used to be in the studio 12, 14, 16 hours a day just knocking out joints" That's what Cam'ron and Dipset did, that's what Kanye did, and he did it when they didn't even want him as a rapper only as a producer. He did College Dropout while he was in the studio waiting on people to come for their sessions. That shows drive, initiative, hustle that's how you earn respect. Jay told Bleek once when he wasn't in the studio on a regular basis "I gave you an opportunity to change your family's life and you not being serious, look I'm already rich". Jay has probably done a lot of foul things, but he has done alot of good things too, but you can't control what other people do you only control what you do with your opportunity. You should have been an opportunist.
Think about what you're saying, Jay-Z was the biggest artist in the game in 98 sold 5million albums on VOl.2. why would he need to keep him self hot with a bunch of up and comers, that he discovered and gave an opportunity to? He took them Philly niggas on the biggest tour in hip hop at the time...yall niggas is crazy with how yall think. when yall hear a story from another nigga he used to be down with HOV.
Great interview skoe but my out look on that beans situation jay was already a mega star I can’t be responsible for another grown man skoe keep it real
Yeah under certain circumstances in some states you can be held criminally responsible for the acts of another person. It’s called vicarious liability. This especially happens in employer/employee cases which would apply here.
@@Bear_313 hell yea , if It was me I would never ask my friend to do that cause I don't know what I may end up doing , he's a grown ass man he has to take responsibility for his actions,
Bro you have to make your own path. Jay-z got you a foot in the door it was up to you to run with it. You have great music. You can't blame jay-z for your failure. And I'm not even a big Jay-Z fan either.
@@BluStripBenjii who has he had black balled the dudes had talent but were lazy asf. He can't keep just giving them hit singles. Bleek fell off state property fell off. Dipset got jerked. You can't blame Jay-Z for everything. He can't be the only one held accountable.
Everybody quick to give Dame credit But Rocafella was built off Jay-z back! Those artist and every producer who flourished from it all got hot because they were direct associates of Jay-z. Him shouting them out, appearing in their music videos, putting songs on their albums so people would buy their albums, making the Dynasty (collab) album and doing features with them, touring with them, what the fuck else do yall want that man to do? He gave them the biggest shout out possible But yall not factoring in the fact that every last one of their albums flopped barely scanned gold! All of them albums and singles and no profit! And the fact that majority of them was on drugs and going back and fourth to jail, But Jay-z is the one who used them?! For what Exactly? Because He was doing good by himself and like I said earlier none of their albums did numbers they all flopped so what did he gain from them? Yall saying he soaked up their swag when in reality Jays music went more pop than hood over the years. People get on here and run with anything But where are the facts Because these opinions are ass backwards. These dudes don't even get along enough to tour off their rocafella hits or to make more albums together. They could have kept it going just like Dipset did after Rocafella But instead they had no focus and was waiting for direction But as a man whose's fault is that and if they were too hood to understand Building a independent brand Then chalk that up to being young minded and now as a older man admit yall issue and MOVE FORWARD, BETTER instead of constantly placing blame on another hood nigga for having better focus.
I like homie. Bro your outlook is no wrong. Jay was concerned about his public image and the different circle ⭕️ he was moving in. So he felt those cats was dangerous. All he had to do is just give them opportunity to expand there career more.
Jay z hung around soaked up the philly swag then stole it like he does every rapper he's in the presence of then he comes out with that style and gets paid off of it because he had a platform he stole the song give to me I believe it was and wouldn't break them dudes off properly
@Sylvanius Ross all thats irrelevant are you familiar with the Philly shell??? Well now its better known as the mayweather defense so the correlation would be what has young chris done since Rocafella if he so dope??? Great artists draw from one another and them bums in SP need to be thanking jay for the look not sneak dissing cuz they got left behind
@@kofithompson2274 is your money and you were smart enough to make it how come you can't help who the hell you want to or you can tell somebody else who to help with they money how about you help
Back in the Rocafella days...Beans was down with the Roc...heart and soul for the team. He meant that!. One thing I do believe, when in court when the judge ask Jay about being held responsible for Beans...Jay should have said Yes. I got him your honor. Jay from the streets so I should have understand that. And to this day, i think Beans would have been got his shit together and probably would have been with Rocnation right now.or doing crazy tours everywhere. Beans would have recognize what his man at the time Jay did and Inknow Beans whould have done his part because Beans was loyal. Jay has grown which is cool. To leave your right hand man in jail like that wasnt cool. That juat comes to show you that nobody believes in the street code anymore. Loyally dont exist anymore. Everyone out for self and thats why there no more Rocafella.
@@charlescoleman6261 I understand. Beans heart was in the music and rep the Roc hard. But he feet was still in the streets doing crazy shit. But I think that if Jay kept his word to the judge to have him responsible for Beans, I believed Beans would have realize that Jay got him and that means stop the bullshit out there and get yourself together. You cant be one foot in the streets and the other in the music. I think at that time Beans would have realized that because his life and what he worked for was on the line.
Wasn't talking all that mess when the checks was coming in right? 🤔 Talking about why someone doesn't help philly when philly doesn't help itself. Stop blaming other people for shit happening in your community when your own bed isn't made son
Idk.. I think that's a cop-out.. I feel like if sigel was more on top of his shit as a professional state prop would've been more successful.. hov is an opportunist but that's because hes a business man.. I think some of state prop not being able to stay out of legal trouble hurt them a lot.. nevertheless.. they was rocking when they was on top.. Philly stand up
This dude got to the top by messing over errbody he dealt with! Shall we go down the list? FOH to all the 🐑 followers of any celeb who ain’t with the people they got rich off of!
You dnt to be in/from the streets to have certain morals and principles,especially when you came from it and THATS ALL YOU RAP ABT........Again,a person who's been around jay z for years spoke on PARTICULAR situations where jay z had a certain artist career sabotage and was on ROC A FELLA.......Beans even spoke on how jay had the cops kick him out a venue while even having an ALL ACCESS pass......Alot of these dudes from the past-present looks at Jay as if he does no wrong because they idolize him......Jay seen how beans was and used him for his own gain.....but ppl will still be on jay 🥜 because they allow 💰 to define a man's character
Jay is like dam near 15 years older than State prop dudes an they ain't looking for fathers figures they looked at Jay as they old head an old heads is supposed to look out an have your best interest not burn you out an shit on you
Bruh if it wasn’t for Jay no one would have heard of most of State Property .On a side note why all these kats coming out talking shit.Say it to his face.
Nah I understand why he wouldnt want to donate to the city...Jay Z definitely lives with some kind of fear being so wealthy...I mean walking with a chain on you edgy some places being Jayz you definitely have to circumspect anything baleful
Still talking about Jay Z all these years later instead of focusing on your bag is corny. Taking yall on tour was feeding yall the rest was on yall to hustle and learn. You know how many rappers would beg for a Jay Z cosign . Yall not only had the cosign and yall was with him traveling. You expect another man to keep carrying you is corny. Why not get mad at the lawyers, Dame, or whoever was handling the paperwork because you ain't gonna get me to believe Jay Z the artist was printing contracts and handling all the legal business.
Yall nicca blame Jay-z for everything, its corny as hell. He don't owe none of yall nicca anything. He gave yall opportunities and yall blew it. Jay-z aint from Philly, he signed yall to a record deal, thats it. How does Jay-z still "Give it to me" from Sparks when the hook is a Rick James song anyway? Jay wrote his own lyrics and had Pharrell to the beat. Them dudes need to get a life. Jay-z aint none of them niccas daddy's. Yall were artists signed to Rocafella
You cant outshine the master? A year ago Kanye and Rihanna was both over 2 billion richer than hov (hov richer than both now) ppl make excuses for their failures 😴 name me one oshino song that deserves a hov adlib let alone a hov verse 😴 how he took sparks hook if sparks rappin the hook if sparks aint get paid that's on him he grown if i cop a brick the plug let me forget to pay him thats on him😂
I find it weird how both Oschino and freeway sons died at the same time
everyone knows jay fitness these cats cause state prop should had been bigger
Facts
BIG FACTS
*Finessed
Nah , State Property reached the level they were supposed to be. Here is an example. I was watching an Allen Iverson interview recently and he told a story about running into Kobe Bryant one night. Kobe asked him what are you about to do, AI said we headed to the club you should come with us and Kobe told him I can't I'm headed to the gym...Cam and Dipset were in the gym (Studio) no matter who was there. Kanye did his whole 1st album in between studio sessions he was producing for other Roc-a-fella artists even though they only wanted him as a producer. He was busting his behind in the gym (studio). I never heard of Oschino being in the studio like that. If you trying to be in the music industry staying out of jail should be your goal. How these so called street dudes be getting finessed out of their product and then blame others. Did Oschino do everything he was supposed to to be successful?
So Jay is a personal trainer?
Oh boy everybody who tell the truth about HOV is hating I know I know same story plenty people done said he got sucka ways is everybody lying
you fought Josh Kelly?
Shawn carter a nut. He always been tho. Nothin new. Never do business with a rat.
Like 50 said, they’ll always come out having a problem with you not because of something fucked up you did TO them, but something they feel you didn’t do FOR them.
The funny thing is, the most successful ones never seem to have those stories. Even if they’ve got gripes with specific people, you’ll almost never hear those stories.
Rocafella was owned by THREE people and a company. Dame, Jay and Biggs owned half with Def Jam owning the other half.
Yet somehow the story always gets painted as “Jay” being the one who did everything wrong as if he was the sole boss and controller of the business.
Jay-Z told them State Property boyz to flood the streets with music put out a lot of work cause 50 cent is coming nobody in that camp moved and 50 took the streets as he should if anything Oschino was suppose to be the guy because he had a real story behind him and we was all waiting but he didn't take advantage of his opportunity and here's where we at .
aXACTLY”””
He got shot more times then pac and never made the news
Yh but he wasn’t good lyrically
but guess who did and never got props for it !! CAMRON !! and THE DIPSET !! factz
@@antarticp7477 cam is rich af
If it wasn’t for Jay, we wouldn’t know you O. Chill................
They were known before jay fam
That dont mean it's no truth to what he sayin. A problem in the black community. We always friends with the rich guy. Never challenging how he got rich. The end justifies the means? What if the means was the exploitation of YOU?
@@tahajjudvance3411 foh
@Jamal Vines look at you, emotional.
I knew who O was when Jadakiss had him first. He was around the Ruff Ryders first but he was the only Philly nigga hanging with the RR camp. Somehow he ended up around The Roc and he was from Philly and The Roc was recruiting them Philly boys back then. So, the move for O kinda made sense.
When he was talking about Beans it was cool now it's about Jay-Z it's a problem lol
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How can he talk about how another man spends his money though?
Dickhead jay z used them dudes but u a dickhead so u can’t see that
Jay Z finessed them Philly buls!
Lmao 💯
We wouldn't even know these niggas if not for Jay.. Sometimes you gotta see the opportunity beyond the current situations in life. Niggas had every chance to be in a position to have carved out a lane that still benefits them to this day. Niggas get a bag from rap and think they'll be able to sustain from just rap forever. When that kinda money comes in you gotta think invest because it just might not come the same tomorrow
@@kaliefhampton2483 What you see as opportunity was exploitation. Stop blaming the victims because you like Jay's music.
@@DC-xp4bl 💯
@@DC-xp4bl nigga you work? If so and you don't own it then you're being exploited. Thats called business. Buy low, sell high, pay the least to get the most.. But nah, Jay a nigga so he supposed to "look out" smh.
These dudes want Job to catch, clean and cook up the fish for them. Man up and build.
Factory!
Facts . Man up 💪
He came to philly for beans
You absolutely right O.!!!🤐🏆🎖🏅🥇🥈🥉🎈🎉🎈🎊🎈🎉🎁🤩🎁😇🎁😍😘😘😘😘😏😏😏😇🤗🎈🎈
Thanks for the gems and the real talk O. ✊🏿❤💯
“ Can’t out shine the master . “
He did a ton for Beans no doubt. You guys couldn't blow ...only a small run no longevity. Your opinion about Hov to his face won't mean anything
I get both sides, jay said no in court for being responsible for beans cause he knew he couldn't control him & jay is a Businessman. Beans is like I'm sitting in this funky jail cmon dog I'm your man! How can you just leave me here? I see both sides, Shoutout to Moschino for always acknowledging Jay's influence on his rap career. Good & Bad.
U a nut type bull. U can tell u have no honor
Yo it wasn’t not 1 platinum selling artist in state property!! Facts💯 All O did was Cry his whole career😂😂😂
If he wasn't taking their music it probably would be
Young gunz went platinum with the tough luv album, jay z stole young chris style
Facts o gotta stop this nonsense .now I kinda see how hov do not wanna fuck with y’all !!tried to do too much lawyer/rapper last days of the roc classic blunder!!lol
Beans👀
Oschino i agree with everything u said brother and i fuck with u hard. Idk u but i can tell u good ppl! #saluteubrother💯
I can see why, Beans a grown ass man. nobody shouldnt have to be responsible for another grown man unless its his son. and Beans was a hot head then. let him do something and Jay z supposed to be responsible for him. he going down too
You make all the sense in the world. But they don't get it
Yo tripping if jay vouch for Beanie who had a hard time listening and showing self control. They would have tried to jack Jay up behind it FOH
I you can't govern yourself the state will govern you for you.
He still coulda put beans up somewhere he had a lot of money that the time
@@darionjackson2599 How can you vouch for a man who would not listen to you . Beans was a thug for Jay ." yes judge i got him". judge-" Mr carter the man you vouched for shot a man in the belly .We will hold you responsible for that crime because you said you would mind him".
@@justicenotjustus2688 bruh that’s bullshit! The judge couldn’t have held Jay accountable if Beans had done something wrong lol... And the judge didn’t just flat out ask him would he be responsible for him... He asked him would he be “willing” to... It’s just like O said just say yes because it can possibly knock ya boys time down, it ain’t like you really gotta do it...
He has nothing to talk about other than Jay-Z after all these years....
The Interviewer asked him about J
im not gone be responsible 4 no grown man either! I wouldn't want any 1 2 be responsible 4 me either!
Stfu if you was in that situation and yo main man's says no through his ass back in jail you would feel some type of way
@@Bear_313 facts these niggaz be hanging on Jz nuts
You obviously haven't been in the streets or court, when a judge ask somebody will they be responsible they are basically asking do you want this person out of jail today or not it's as simple as that. If you say no the judge is gonna be thinking why do you even know this person it makes you look stupid. So jay z saying no is mad disrespectful.
G - Shit! From a Real OG! ✊🏿💪🏿🤞🏿👑🔱✡️🖤
I don't agree with being responsible for another grown man's problems.
If that's your man and the judge ask you would you be responsible for your man, you suppose to say yes. Even if you have no intentions on being responsible for him. It's like a co-sign without signing anything. Thing is, Jay didn't consider him a friend. He considered him to be his employee.
I understand that the person being interviewed can only answer the questions that they are asked by the interviewer but hearing label mates talk about Jay Z stories is becoming lame. The people conducting the interviews need to do a better job and ask different questions. Also, a man talking about how another man should spend his money is suspect to me. Maybe O needs to build a school where he is from and make sure his kids and the kids of his former label mates have college scholarships.
Adult Babies 🤦♂️
Facts....I see stuff like this and “what we talking bout” from BP3 comes to mind. Jay talked his reality into existence. You don’t gotta like it but you will respect it. Nighty night lol
All they showing are their insecurities
He could’ve maybe if jay them ain’t Pimp them Boi’s so hard. Young guns had number one record, jay gave them young boys 1k per show. That’s how he got his money, fucking over his people. Frfr.
Jay is a billionaire, but in his mind is he's still a rapper and he's intimidated by other rappers. That's normal. This is why he's signing all the new cats to roc nation because it keeps him relevant and he stays on top. Jay was a sucka for doing back door shit. Roc Da Mic was Freeway/State Property's first major hit. Jay took the name and made the Roc Da Mic tour his tour and pimped all the rappers and kept most of the money. In my opinion, Dame went hard for SP. He showed up to the video shoots, he supported them every step of the way photoshoots, clothing, etc. Dame could've been a dirty nigga too if he wanted to, but Dame upbringing is different from Jay. Dame is more loyal. Jay was behind the scenes doing sucka shit. I guess he did what he had to do because he was getting older and decided to snake his crew so that he can secure his future. Rap game is dirty.
BIG FACTS...
#Gems 💎💎💎
Jay is a snake in the grass
Real men stand up!
So he was supposed to be responsible for a grown man already in jail? 🤣😂 Some dudes are hilarious..
Was supposed to be a team dickhead. Selfish dudes like u can’t comprehend 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
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You gotta fix that title if you want to keep things 💯! He was very careful how he said it and O a real one from what I can tell, but he phrased it that Jay has Succa ways! Sounds the same if you don’t know any better!
This cap, I can name two songs off top that he did with state property. Put the whole team on his album
Dame had to beg jay z go do them two songs on the album , then he was really pissed at dame when the Album dropped
That's why I fuck with O
He sound salty. Meanwhile Jay remains quiet 🤫 and let’s his actions talk. ♟
@Silent Scope You probably Oschino himself get a profile pic lame and stop hiding.
He's not a hater he told the truth
And that’s why jay z can’t fully be trusted to do anything for our community he always been about the bag first can’t trust a nigga like that
Yeah that was fucked up when Jay answered that judge like that when it depended on his homies freedom...
I can respect him speaking his truth. I don't consider it hate, but I do find it strange that we hear that Jay took the song " Give it to Me" from the youngin'. I agree Jay could have given him a production credit. Jay did the same with Ja Rule with "Can I get a", now I don't know if the songs would have had the same level of success without Jay, maybe it would maybe not. I know Ja Rule a lot of hits after that. Where was his other "Give it to Me"? Where was his other songs that would have been his big hits? I don't know I wasn't there, but I find it hard to believe that every song that would have been a hit for any of State Property, Jay Z just took. So where are those records? 2nd why would you want another man to give scholarships to children of SP members? Your children's scholarship was the opportunity he gave you guys to change your lives. If you really wanted to make sure your children had scholarship you should have been sleeping in the studio, I never heard him tell that story. "Man we used to be in the studio 12, 14, 16 hours a day just knocking out joints" That's what Cam'ron and Dipset did, that's what Kanye did, and he did it when they didn't even want him as a rapper only as a producer. He did College Dropout while he was in the studio waiting on people to come for their sessions. That shows drive, initiative, hustle that's how you earn respect. Jay told Bleek once when he wasn't in the studio on a regular basis "I gave you an opportunity to change your family's life and you not being serious, look I'm already rich". Jay has probably done a lot of foul things, but he has done alot of good things too, but you can't control what other people do you only control what you do with your opportunity. You should have been an opportunist.
Jay put the whole team on on As One alone, these niggas just dropped the ball. Stop depending on another man
I'm not Santa Claus get off my lap!
Jay Z
“I repeat...
Not get off my lap
I don’t have a beard now
get off my sack
Scream at me!!!” 💯
I agree, all of Hov albums have who is hot at that time featured all over them, producers and rappers. He uses others to keep himself hot.
Think about what you're saying, Jay-Z was the biggest artist in the game in 98 sold 5million albums on VOl.2. why would he need to keep him self hot with a bunch of up and comers, that he discovered and gave an opportunity to? He took them Philly niggas on the biggest tour in hip hop at the time...yall niggas is crazy with how yall think. when yall hear a story from another nigga he used to be down with HOV.
Thts part of the Game Dick head .
@@reapov2665 Hov surpasses them lil niggas . Streets don't really love em now do they
@@cityboinyc the stree don't love no one tbh
Great interview skoe but my out look on that beans situation jay was already a mega star I can’t be responsible for another grown man skoe keep it real
Word..A grown ass man at that...plus we don’t know what entailed behind that if beans fuck up again
Facts
Yeah under certain circumstances in some states you can be held criminally responsible for the acts of another person. It’s called vicarious liability. This especially happens in employer/employee cases which would apply here.
So if yo main man's was in that situation you would say no?
@@Bear_313 hell yea , if It was me I would never ask my friend to do that cause I don't know what I may end up doing , he's a grown ass man he has to take responsibility for his actions,
Facts! Oschino a real nigga!! I fucks wit u my nigga!!!
JAY-Z IS MISSING
#gitmo
Nigga don’t tell me what to do with my money.
Niccaz never self reflect and always look for someone else to blame for thier own problems. I guess it makes things easier for them
Jay-Z supposed to save everybody's life smh
Jay was not wrong for saying "No" to the judge. Street niggaz are hard heads.
“Jay-Z won’t hold my hand no more.”
@@kennethjohnson7233 “can yaw niggas get front page articles then mention Jay-z name?”
This is the same dude that stabbed Un Rivera with a fork
@@haitianmaniac74 so what
Tlk to fast man slow down. It aint tht serious.
It's Music BUSINESS not the streets! 1000
Nigga yall had a start in the game ..no hand outs get yo shit ... the door was open
Yea bro. Grind hard. Respect
Bro you have to make your own path. Jay-z got you a foot in the door it was up to you to run with it. You have great music. You can't blame jay-z for your failure. And I'm not even a big Jay-Z fan either.
You should look into Jay z history of getting people black balled, and how he’s treated every artist under him.
@@BluStripBenjii who has he had black balled the dudes had talent but were lazy asf. He can't keep just giving them hit singles. Bleek fell off state property fell off. Dipset got jerked. You can't blame Jay-Z for everything. He can't be the only one held accountable.
Dame put there foot in the door not jayZ
Everybody quick to give Dame credit But Rocafella was built off Jay-z back! Those artist and every producer who flourished from it all got hot because they were direct associates of Jay-z. Him shouting them out, appearing in their music videos, putting songs on their albums so people would buy their albums, making the Dynasty (collab) album and doing features with them, touring with them, what the fuck else do yall want that man to do? He gave them the biggest shout out possible But yall not factoring in the fact that every last one of their albums flopped barely scanned gold! All of them albums and singles and no profit! And the fact that majority of them was on drugs and going back and fourth to jail, But Jay-z is the one who used them?! For what Exactly? Because He was doing good by himself and like I said earlier none of their albums did numbers they all flopped so what did he gain from them? Yall saying he soaked up their swag when in reality Jays music went more pop than hood over the years. People get on here and run with anything But where are the facts Because these opinions are ass backwards. These dudes don't even get along enough to tour off their rocafella hits or to make more albums together. They could have kept it going just like Dipset did after Rocafella But instead they had no focus and was waiting for direction But as a man whose's fault is that and if they were too hood to understand Building a independent brand Then chalk that up to being young minded and now as a older man admit yall issue and MOVE FORWARD, BETTER instead of constantly placing blame on another hood nigga for having better focus.
Jay stole a lot of their music and made it his own without paying cause they didn’t have a puplishing company at the time. Jay is a snake in the grass
His problem wasn't with Jay his problem was his beans 🤣 and everybody knows who was the better artist
In case your little know it's beanie Sigel that was the big artist
@@willisbrice4143 that is what he was alluding to
I like homie. Bro your outlook is no wrong. Jay was concerned about his public image and the different circle ⭕️ he was moving in. So he felt those cats was dangerous. All he had to do is just give them opportunity to expand there career more.
He gave them an opportunity. What other opportunities should he gave them.
Oschino A Real Nigga 💯
🥱 if anybody ever needed a daddy is this guy. Opportunity knocks once. If you don’t take advantage that’s your problem.
I fuck with schino heavy
Preach!!!
Jay z hung around soaked up the philly swag then stole it like he does every rapper he's in the presence of then he comes out with that style and gets paid off of it because he had a platform he stole the song give to me I believe it was and wouldn't break them dudes off properly
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Who style did he steal
@@charlescoleman6261 young chris
@@hattiewhitmore5391 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He stole Young Chris style??
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So Young Chris had stuff before Reasonable Doubt...
Yo bro you are talking facts.
He gave y’all the biggest platform in hip hop and y’all didn’t capitalize. Ask urself what u would do different if that opportunity comes again
stfu
@@bigmurkgmoney878 lol the truth hurts
Is Jay Z thinking about the dude? I think he making moves with Hennessy buying half his company .Just hate to the 3rd power.
Oschin funny as shit boi
Jay z ain’t jeopardize is brand for no rap employee.
@Cee Z damn
Cee Z Biggie said himself Jay Z was better than him..Ask Lil Cease & Clark Kent
He aint supposed to. Business is business you gotta be a man and be responsible.
7 group members 40 kids????? Lol sound like yall fumbled the ball how jay z responsible for that
@Sylvanius Ross so who was jay stealing from 95-01??? Because that's when he was at his best
@Sylvanius Ross all thats irrelevant are you familiar with the Philly shell??? Well now its better known as the mayweather defense so the correlation would be what has young chris done since Rocafella if he so dope??? Great artists draw from one another and them bums in SP need to be thanking jay for the look not sneak dissing cuz they got left behind
@Sylvanius Ross Thats not how business works,
He never said he was responsible for they kids he said if u help out kids in Africa how come u can't help people u know
@@kofithompson2274 is your money and you were smart enough to make it how come you can't help who the hell you want to or you can tell somebody else who to help with they money how about you help
None of them niggaz could stay out of jail I guess that’s J fault also.and the only only one was hot was beans and freeway.
Has this guy dropped an album yet or still busy talking about Beans now Jay Z....
Is this about the music or something else? Put your album out.
Talk that talk O. The Jay-Z fans don't see nothing wrong with his antics. The bull is foul but the fabs dont see it
Jay-z is not a perception of Lucifer he is just judas the snitch
Back in the Rocafella days...Beans was down with the Roc...heart and soul for the team. He meant that!. One thing I do believe, when in court when the judge ask Jay about being held responsible for Beans...Jay should have said Yes. I got him your honor. Jay from the streets so I should have understand that. And to this day, i think Beans would have been got his shit together and probably would have been with Rocnation right now.or doing crazy tours everywhere. Beans would have recognize what his man at the time Jay did and Inknow Beans whould have done his part because Beans was loyal. Jay has grown which is cool. To leave your right hand man in jail like that wasnt cool. That juat comes to show you that nobody believes in the street code anymore. Loyally dont exist anymore. Everyone out for self and thats why there no more Rocafella.
Beans was a grown ass man it wasn't job to watch his ass stop doin dumb shit
@@charlescoleman6261 I understand. Beans heart was in the music and rep the Roc hard. But he feet was still in the streets doing crazy shit. But I think that if Jay kept his word to the judge to have him responsible for Beans, I believed Beans would have realize that Jay got him and that means stop the bullshit out there and get yourself together. You cant be one foot in the streets and the other in the music. I think at that time Beans would have realized that because his life and what he worked for was on the line.
He didn't leave him I don't know what you got outta that
#Oschino stay droppin 💎💎💎
I love him
Wasn't talking all that mess when the checks was coming in right? 🤔 Talking about why someone doesn't help philly when philly doesn't help itself. Stop blaming other people for shit happening in your community when your own bed isn't made son
This that cocaine talk!!!
Imagine taking full responsibility for a grown ass man lol. Gtfoh
Well it’s not like he doesn’t know him 🤷🏾♂️ he’s prob talking facts lol ppl scared to talk about hov cause he rich
True. That is some sucka shit
Idk.. I think that's a cop-out.. I feel like if sigel was more on top of his shit as a professional state prop would've been more successful.. hov is an opportunist but that's because hes a business man.. I think some of state prop not being able to stay out of legal trouble hurt them a lot.. nevertheless.. they was rocking when they was on top.. Philly stand up
O looks like Ricky smily 😂
Well said!
nah he said no !!!!!!
HOV made all they ass millionaires,
Should always take care of your own
This dude got to the top by messing over errbody he dealt with! Shall we go down the list? FOH to all the 🐑 followers of any celeb who ain’t with the people they got rich off of!
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Problem (for most of you) is that the ‘ethics’ ‘Codes’ and ‘Street Morals’ you living by DO NOT apply in EVERY ASPECT OF SOCIETY; Only Yours.
You dnt to be in/from the streets to have certain morals and principles,especially when you came from it and THATS ALL YOU RAP ABT........Again,a person who's been around jay z for years spoke on PARTICULAR situations where jay z had a certain artist career sabotage and was on ROC A FELLA.......Beans even spoke on how jay had the cops kick him out a venue while even having an ALL ACCESS pass......Alot of these dudes from the past-present looks at Jay as if he does no wrong because they idolize him......Jay seen how beans was and used him for his own gain.....but ppl will still be on jay 🥜 because they allow 💰 to define a man's character
@@southeastd.c5636 Stop the Hate .
@@cityboinyc here we go,another individual who looks at someone's opinion that doesn't agree with theirs as hate...nut ass
Beanie screwed them over
How you can like the way somebody carry themselves but feel they got sucka ways? That means u like the sucka ways also
These dudes are looking for father figures from a dude their own age.
Jay is like dam near 15 years older than State prop dudes an they ain't looking for fathers figures they looked at Jay as they old head an old heads is supposed to look out an have your best interest not burn you out an shit on you
Respect to o he keep 100
Let it go. Shit happens
Bruh if it wasn’t for Jay no one would have heard of most of State Property .On a side note why all these kats coming out talking shit.Say it to his face.
Nigga you act like Jay ran Roc a fella....Dame signed them you nut ass nigga
That's crazy
Excuses jay put them on
O need his own joint
Nah I understand why he wouldnt want to donate to the city...Jay Z definitely lives with some kind of fear being so wealthy...I mean walking with a chain on you edgy some places being Jayz you definitely have to circumspect anything baleful
You talk fast as shit
Jayz is the gatekeeper. He wants to be on top at all cost. Highly overrated.
Still talking about Jay Z all these years later instead of focusing on your bag is corny. Taking yall on tour was feeding yall the rest was on yall to hustle and learn. You know how many rappers would beg for a Jay Z cosign . Yall not only had the cosign and yall was with him traveling. You expect another man to keep carrying you is corny. Why not get mad at the lawyers, Dame, or whoever was handling the paperwork because you ain't gonna get me to believe Jay Z the artist was printing contracts and handling all the legal business.
All facts
Jay z been a sucka my guy cant respect dat idc
Dam that's crazy
Yall nicca blame Jay-z for everything, its corny as hell. He don't owe none of yall nicca anything. He gave yall opportunities and yall blew it. Jay-z aint from Philly, he signed yall to a record deal, thats it. How does Jay-z still "Give it to me" from Sparks when the hook is a Rick James song anyway? Jay wrote his own lyrics and had Pharrell to the beat. Them dudes need to get a life. Jay-z aint none of them niccas daddy's. Yall were artists signed to Rocafella
You cant outshine the master? A year ago Kanye and Rihanna was both over 2 billion richer than hov (hov richer than both now) ppl make excuses for their failures 😴 name me one oshino song that deserves a hov adlib let alone a hov verse 😴 how he took sparks hook if sparks rappin the hook if sparks aint get paid that's on him he grown if i cop a brick the plug let me forget to pay him thats on him😂