Nice to see a video on the fuel screwdriver. I own one but found there’s not many videos on them. I believe it’s due to the non fuel being more affordable and adequate for being a screwdriver. I think the more versatile fuel screwdriver is the installation driver, which I also own. If Milwaukee ran more promotions on the fuel screwdriver it would maybe be more popular. The only reason I have the fuel screwdriver is because I got it for $75 on ebay
I 100% agree I don't believe the Fuel screwdriver has ever been on sale. For my jobs I needed the additional torque this Fuel version has vs the regular screwdriver. I recently purchased the installation driver and did a separate review on that tool as well. I have been impressed with both of these drills.
I've got the 4th gen M18 Fuel hammer drill, impact driver and 3 1/2 gen surge. Since I've got other options that can be just as easy going or more robust than this driver, I've always viewed this as a gentleman's power screwdriver. This is great for someone who doesn't see themselves getting into big projects and would most likely hire out anything beyond what this power screwdriver can do.
What I don’t understand it why is it more expensive than the M12 fuel drill driver 2503-20. The 2503-20 model is arguably one of there most popular products and it’s relatively same size, weight, with more functionality
@@chrismcclain6518 I think the reason is because this M12 screwdriver 2402-20 is still a current model while the 2503-20 is the gen2 M12 hammer drill that is discontinued. The model I showed in this video is the 3404-20 which is the gen3 hammer drill and is more expensive than the 2402 screwdriver.
I have the brushed screwdriver and i mainly use it tighten fasteners and not over tighten and i use itbalot for interior work inside my car and the clutch setting help alot to set my desired torque but recently, i wanted to upgrade to the fuel models because theyre a little more compact but now seeing this comparison. Both the screwdriver and drill have an adjustable clutch and 2 speeds. And now I'm debating what would be the better option getting the drill or getting the screwdriver because they both accomplish the same thing for what im going for
If you're looking for max power or if will be drilling holes regularly...go with the drill as its more powerful than some 18v drills. If looking for something for general task like assembling furniture, driving screws, etc I would go with the screwdriver. You will have much more control with the screwdriver and is the one I use most of the time (plus I really like the 1/4 hex bit connection vs the standard chuck). With that said both are a great option, I don't think you can go wrong with either of these drills. Hope this helps.
I think people tend to choose M12 drills because of their lighter weight. How much lighter does the screwdriver feel over the hammer drill and a comparable M18 drill?
I just did a weight comparison between the M12 Fuel screwdriver and hammer drill in this video compared to my M18 Fuel hammer drill 2804-20. With the batteries attached (M12 I used XC 6.0 and M18 XC 5.0): M12 screwdriver is 2 lbs 15 oz, M12 hammer drill 3lbs 2 oz, and M18 hammer drill 4 lbs 12 oz.
I have the gen 2 drill and on the lowest clutch setting it will easily strip small screws. I am interested in the screwdriver but am concerned it might have the same problem. What do you think of the clutch on the screwdriver? Is it safe for small screws?
The gen2 drill did have more torque than the screwdriver, however the screwdriver is dialed back and is easier to use while driving screws in my opinion. The clutch on the screwdriver is geared towards screws while the drill is max power. I personally never had any issues with the screwdriver; however the smallest screws I used were 3/4-inch door hinge screws. If your concerned with this Fuel screwdriver being too much torque, they also make a regular M12 screwdriver which is cheaper and less torque. Pick one of the screwdrivers, I think you will be happy as I use mine almost daily.
I use all my drills and drivers on max settings/drill mode. And I control it by gentle tigger finger to drive small screws. Maybe the surge m12 hydraulic impact driver is for you? It has a self screw mode that turns it off when the head of the screw goes down in the material. Does it work?... Don't know.
I’m with @bathtubcrocodile. Don’t rely on mechanical devices to save your screws. Take the time to learn the tool (the more you use it, the more adapt you will become at controlling it by feel and the more second nature it will become) and how to control it, rather than the other way around. I have owned this driver, an M18 drill, and an M18 impact driver for years, and this has been and will continue to be my go-to for the vast majority of things. I only use the impact driver when I need impact to get something driven in or loosened up; I use the drill pretty much only when I need to use a drill bit that requires a traditional chuck, or when I need to do a lot of drilling and driving but don’t want to constantly be changing bits; and I use this for pretty much everything else. It is powerful enough and has enough torque (on the low speed - who drives screws on high speed??) that it will drive anything that the drill will drive; and it gives me enough control and finesse that it has never once stripped a screw out on any clutch setting in any material. I also hate Milwaukee’s electronic clutches like they put on their M12 drill drivers. They cut out arbitrarily compared to the good-old mechanical ones like this screwdriver has. The other thing I love about this screwdriver is that there is a separate selector (which they got rid of on the newer drill/drivers) which allows to switch between drive mode (clutch settings) and drill mode (full torque all the way) without having to rotate the clutch all the way back around each time. This means that if you’re using this to pre-drill your holes and then drive the screws, you don’t have to rotate the chuck from “drill” all the way to, say, “2” then back again and so on. It also reduces the risk of forgetting what clutch setting you were using if you walk away from your project for awhile leaving the tool in “drill” mode. All in all, I’d recommend this screwdriver without reservation for an all-around tool, keeping in mind what it isn’t (an impact driver or a drill with a traditional chuck).
Between the two which one has a finer sensitivity on the lowest end of the clutch settings? I’m looking at one for very small and fine screws and fasteners.
Definitely the 2402 scewdriver. The hammer drill is a lot more powerful but would be overkill if you're looking for something for very small screws. Anytime I assemble something I always reach for the screwdriver if the screws are less than 2 inches. Also, they do make a non FUEL version of the screwdriver as well.
My 2402 randomly stops working when using it then after a few trigger pulls it works again until it doesnt as though its low on battery which it isnt and I dont know why.
Try cleaning the battery contacts on the tool and battery. I haven't experience it on this tool, but in the past, I had a similar problem on a different drill where it would randomly cut out.
when it's in that state does the light still come on, or is it completely dead? I have a bosch PS22 pocket driver that had a similar problem, turned out it was bad solder joint on one of the wires to the motor.
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Nice to see a video on the fuel screwdriver. I own one but found there’s not many videos on them. I believe it’s due to the non fuel being more affordable and adequate for being a screwdriver.
I think the more versatile fuel screwdriver is the installation driver, which I also own. If Milwaukee ran more promotions on the fuel screwdriver it would maybe be more popular. The only reason I have the fuel screwdriver is because I got it for $75 on ebay
I 100% agree I don't believe the Fuel screwdriver has ever been on sale. For my jobs I needed the additional torque this Fuel version has vs the regular screwdriver. I recently purchased the installation driver and did a separate review on that tool as well. I have been impressed with both of these drills.
I've got the 4th gen M18 Fuel hammer drill, impact driver and 3 1/2 gen surge. Since I've got other options that can be just as easy going or more robust than this driver, I've always viewed this as a gentleman's power screwdriver. This is great for someone who doesn't see themselves getting into big projects and would most likely hire out anything beyond what this power screwdriver can do.
Couldn't agree more! This M12 fuel screwdriver is a great all-around tool that will handle most DIY jobs around the house.
What I don’t understand it why is it more expensive than the M12 fuel drill driver 2503-20.
The 2503-20 model is arguably one of there most popular products and it’s relatively same size, weight, with more functionality
@@chrismcclain6518 I think the reason is because this M12 screwdriver 2402-20 is still a current model while the 2503-20 is the gen2 M12 hammer drill that is discontinued. The model I showed in this video is the 3404-20 which is the gen3 hammer drill and is more expensive than the 2402 screwdriver.
@@TeamDIYNow Yeah, I just realized the 3403-20 gen 3 came out
Awesome video brother 🙌
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video. Appreciate it my man.
No problem glad I was able to help. Thanks for watching!
I have the brushed screwdriver and i mainly use it tighten fasteners and not over tighten and i use itbalot for interior work inside my car and the clutch setting help alot to set my desired torque but recently, i wanted to upgrade to the fuel models because theyre a little more compact but now seeing this comparison. Both the screwdriver and drill have an adjustable clutch and 2 speeds. And now I'm debating what would be the better option getting the drill or getting the screwdriver because they both accomplish the same thing for what im going for
If you're looking for max power or if will be drilling holes regularly...go with the drill as its more powerful than some 18v drills. If looking for something for general task like assembling furniture, driving screws, etc I would go with the screwdriver. You will have much more control with the screwdriver and is the one I use most of the time (plus I really like the 1/4 hex bit connection vs the standard chuck). With that said both are a great option, I don't think you can go wrong with either of these drills. Hope this helps.
I think people tend to choose M12 drills because of their lighter weight. How much lighter does the screwdriver feel over the hammer drill and a comparable M18 drill?
I just did a weight comparison between the M12 Fuel screwdriver and hammer drill in this video compared to my M18 Fuel hammer drill 2804-20. With the batteries attached (M12 I used XC 6.0 and M18 XC 5.0): M12 screwdriver is 2 lbs 15 oz, M12 hammer drill 3lbs 2 oz, and M18 hammer drill 4 lbs 12 oz.
Nice video didnt know the m12 screw drive was a think moght have to pick this up tgus tool would come in handy
Glad I was able to help. Thanks for watching!
Nice video, Thank you.
Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching!
I have the gen 2 drill and on the lowest clutch setting it will easily strip small screws. I am interested in the screwdriver but am concerned it might have the same problem. What do you think of the clutch on the screwdriver? Is it safe for small screws?
The gen2 drill did have more torque than the screwdriver, however the screwdriver is dialed back and is easier to use while driving screws in my opinion. The clutch on the screwdriver is geared towards screws while the drill is max power. I personally never had any issues with the screwdriver; however the smallest screws I used were 3/4-inch door hinge screws. If your concerned with this Fuel screwdriver being too much torque, they also make a regular M12 screwdriver which is cheaper and less torque. Pick one of the screwdrivers, I think you will be happy as I use mine almost daily.
I use all my drills and drivers on max settings/drill mode. And I control it by gentle tigger finger to drive small screws. Maybe the surge m12 hydraulic impact driver is for you? It has a self screw mode that turns it off when the head of the screw goes down in the material.
Does it work?... Don't know.
I’m with @bathtubcrocodile. Don’t rely on mechanical devices to save your screws. Take the time to learn the tool (the more you use it, the more adapt you will become at controlling it by feel and the more second nature it will become) and how to control it, rather than the other way around. I have owned this driver, an M18 drill, and an M18 impact driver for years, and this has been and will continue to be my go-to for the vast majority of things. I only use the impact driver when I need impact to get something driven in or loosened up; I use the drill pretty much only when I need to use a drill bit that requires a traditional chuck, or when I need to do a lot of drilling and driving but don’t want to constantly be changing bits; and I use this for pretty much everything else. It is powerful enough and has enough torque (on the low speed - who drives screws on high speed??) that it will drive anything that the drill will drive; and it gives me enough control and finesse that it has never once stripped a screw out on any clutch setting in any material. I also hate Milwaukee’s electronic clutches like they put on their M12 drill drivers. They cut out arbitrarily compared to the good-old mechanical ones like this screwdriver has. The other thing I love about this screwdriver is that there is a separate selector (which they got rid of on the newer drill/drivers) which allows to switch between drive mode (clutch settings) and drill mode (full torque all the way) without having to rotate the clutch all the way back around each time. This means that if you’re using this to pre-drill your holes and then drive the screws, you don’t have to rotate the chuck from “drill” all the way to, say, “2” then back again and so on. It also reduces the risk of forgetting what clutch setting you were using if you walk away from your project for awhile leaving the tool in “drill” mode. All in all, I’d recommend this screwdriver without reservation for an all-around tool, keeping in mind what it isn’t (an impact driver or a drill with a traditional chuck).
Between the two which one has a finer sensitivity on the lowest end of the clutch settings? I’m looking at one for very small and fine screws and fasteners.
Definitely the 2402 scewdriver. The hammer drill is a lot more powerful but would be overkill if you're looking for something for very small screws. Anytime I assemble something I always reach for the screwdriver if the screws are less than 2 inches. Also, they do make a non FUEL version of the screwdriver as well.
@@TeamDIYNow Good to know, and thanks for the quick response! I will be doing small #6,8, and 10 machine screws and nuts and don’t want to strip them.
@@thereloadingcraft No problem glad I was able to help.
@@TeamDIYNow appreciated, and subscribed! Keep up the great work!
@@thereloadingcraft Thank you for the kind words and subscribing!
My 2402 randomly stops working when using it then after a few trigger pulls it works again until it doesnt as though its low on battery which it isnt and I dont know why.
Try cleaning the battery contacts on the tool and battery. I haven't experience it on this tool, but in the past, I had a similar problem on a different drill where it would randomly cut out.
when it's in that state does the light still come on, or is it completely dead? I have a bosch PS22 pocket driver that had a similar problem, turned out it was bad solder joint on one of the wires to the motor.