@@gregh.7907 The point is that DE originally said that rivens were to "breathe life into the older weapons" and to basically bring them up to par with the actually good weapons... which they never did, they just made the crap weapons a bit more usable but still not good. These incarnons actually let those old weapons compete with the good weapons.
The Ballroom Simulacrum was a reward from Operation: Scarlet Spear, Operation: Orphix Venom, and as a treat from Nights of Naberus. So unless some new event comes, just wait for the Halloween event and buy it from daughter. 👍
It's not "OP" like the others (I blame the 2nd evolution tree not working at all and the Atomos not having sexy red crits for that tbh), it's just good or great even, that's why it's getting flak.
@@girlchildrevoIution dual ichor is definitely great, it fixed the status problem it had and makes it one of the best corpus killers, if not the best. Granted, you don't need a dedicated corpus killer for most of the content, but level cap runs, especially disruption, benefit so much from having one. I'll definitely be picking it the next time it comes around. Meanwhile Atomos is pretty underwhelming, charging the incarnon form is harder than on any other weapon, and the incarnon form itself isn't exceptional in any way, so it's essentially just a buff to the main form, which just makes it a kuva nukor sidegrade.
@@Starcanum-I can speak from experience since I grabbed it this week that Dual Ichor is easily one of the best melee weapons right now and I'd argue it sits in Glaive Prime's bracket. It can actually be used as a regular melee weapon and chews through crowd after crowd on Steel Path as if we were back in 2016 with the original unnerfed Condition Overload, it's amazing.
This and the Torid are both stupidly good in their base forms, which is nice because when the charge in their Incarnon forms run out, the fun doesn’t stop
This is how I'm hoping Incarnons are, going forward. What I'd really like is if they let you switch between Incarnon and normal mode without losing your current Incarnon charge, and just make all the Incarnon weapons good in their base form. They're already half way there with a bunch of them.
@@HaveYouTriedGuillotines Honestly, I'd much prefer if Incarnon forms serve as a small power boost. WIth the stat buffs, it's not like the base form of some of the more busted incarnons are bad...like the Torid or Latron...their incarnon form just make it completely pointless to use the base form over it. Though, I'd say, the Atomos's base form seems kinda on par with incarnon form, at least until we'll see how it really is when the bugs on it are fixed.
the atomos was my most used weapon before the kuva nukor, i never seen anyone using it either. i was pretty confused because of how good it was. but now i guess i'll be seeing a lot more.
Well this week was hard to choose. I skipped both the Toroid and Átomos for the Dual Toxicyst and Miter. Don’t regret it tho, the 2 pistols become full auto that still benefits from the innate passive and bullets bounce, and in top they now can have crits too! and the Miter saw now bounce and explode! while tracking enemies.
miter+dual toxocyst is def the better choice for high level play. atomos and torid may be "fun", but they just can't reach the level of the other two weapons.
@@excaligaming2435 bro it was a good choice but not better anybody who didn't choose torid or atomos never used it before incarnon it was already ignis + nukor now it has sporelacer aswell
I personally found the status and crit fourth evo to work out better, as proccing more heat ramps up damage while still critting consistently more for a damage buff
With a crit/crit dam riven taking the crit/status is awesome. I could also see grabbing the status and using it as a beaming Epitaph replacement for getting the most out of CO.
Oh they'll find a way to stop the fun... "We discovered a bug with all incarnons where they were applying stats to the base additively instead of multiplicatively. Also, we halved the stat increases on all weapons, and cut the ammo pool to 10%. Changing between forms will now take 45sec and with each use it drains 25% health and shields" Expect something ridiculous like this the next time they have a look at usage stats...
See this what I want for Chroma's Spectral scream. I want it to evolve from a continuous stream attack into a single instance high intensity blast attack that scales a little bit with enemy health. It would be nice.
Plus, having your Effigy follow you about like a sentinel shooting its own beam and maybe that roar it does actually brings enemies closer rather than disperse them.
Anyone who doesn't know what the "simple trick" is for incarnons and other weapons. Damage resistances from Attenuation are partially ignored due to multiple damage instances. Prisma Lenz is another example where damage hits in multiple parts and has a delay, so acolytes melt.
" You are more powerful than you were before, but Sigma is much more than he appears to be. You're going to need an edge. Take my arm cannon and your attack power should increase. Good Luck, X! "
I was a dummy and chose the miter instead of the atomos as my second option so I gotta wait another 6 weeks for this. At least I got my torid this week lol
I noticed that this weapon’s new form struggles against Corpus enemies, quite badly. Their shields prevent you from 1-shotting them. In my experience, it’s not even worth shooting at them. It takes every shot you have to get through a small group of shielded enemies.
I'm liking using rhino with mesa ability sub onto him or other buff and "secondary kinship" now i have it at rank 3 (13% crit per buff. max 20% per buff) before that was using "secondary encumber" with good results.
This test would look a little different in today's Warframe given the new Kuva Grineer subfaction, and their resistance to heat damage, but I do love this secondary regardless. Now to hope Plague Star doesn't vanish for 2 years again, or get rich in plat to actually *obtain* fulmination or it's prune variant. Thankfully the primed does seem like it's the last three rotations have been about every 6 months, which means it should be due to be back soon.
That being said with the blast buffs, this thing will absolutely SHRED even harder in the Incarnon form, so it probably would go just as good if not better, come to think of it.
I prefer having the ammo for the third incarnon. I have ruinous extension giving me all the range I realistically need. Having an extra 210 ammo is huge on the atomos
For clarity - Secondary Merciless at max rank gives +30% damage for 4s and stacks up to 12x. Stacks decay one at a time instead of dumping all at once after 4s, making it much easier to keep maxed. That's 360% damage. Hornet Strike adds to that because they're classed as the same part of the damage calculation formula. So for the cost of an entire mod slot, you go from +360% to +425% damage. It is technically More Damage, but +360% is Enough for most things and you can get more crit or other useful stats with that mod slot instead.
how is Brozime taking so little damage? One of these enemies would oneshot my shields and after that my health but here they only seem to do as little as 4 damage to shields.
Adaptation plus Citrine's 90% DR. He's not playing evasively so Adaptation is consistently at full power. Notice he evaporated the moment he forgot his 2 despite that.
@@George_M_ ah, thank you very much. I always struggle with survivability in steel path and high level missions in general so I may grind out citrine and try her
Couple things here. I think Broz likes to slot a heat mod on stuff where it really doesn't belong. The heat mod is putting in work for the beam form, but doing virtually nothing for the aoe form vs if he put Galvanised Shot or even Crosshairs and this is often the case with his builds so they work fine for base level steel path like most things do, but could be a lot better. 2nd I think the beam form of this weapon with the new upgrades is way better than the AoE and will scale further into Steel Path than the AoE that really isn't doing much compared to Mushroom or Plinx or any other AoE secondary that could take this thing's slot and not have the crazy ammo issues Atomos has. We can see how well it performs on base Steel Path in the video, and this is without Galvanized Shot which would significantly up the damage. 3rd I think this weapon really needs to be built for either the Beam form OR the AoE form because otherwise they both suffer. It's like the beam form is an A+ and the AoE form is an A and if you build for both like in this vid they go down to A and B respectively. Finally when I said I think Brozime uses a heat mod way too often, I mean for any time he's modding a weapon that you're equipping to one shot a group of dudes, the heat mod is going to do absolutely nothing compared to (For primaries) Vigilante Armaments / Hammer Shot etc etc. and (For secondaries) Galvanized Shot, Bane mod, etc. I only started noticing this with his Lex vid where it's there to one shot a whole room of enemies but he's got PHC on which does make Number Go Up but not as much as Galvanized Shot would, not to mention just running Corrosive for the damage multiplier would end up being a lot more damage as well while Viral is swell but we're all running Viral Cat and Viral isnt helping us one shot stuff anyway without full stripping them first.
I picked this instantly when I saw the rotation change thinking it's gonna be some split beam stuff or something; what a disappointment to see it become another generic launcher.
Can't wait for DE to start nerfing the incarnons are their weapons >_> We can never have anything that's fun and really powerful in this game.. just not allowed.
They literally just came out and you're being all doom and gloom. Relax. They're not gonna suddenly nerf 30 weapons they finally made viable in Endgame.
@@MrZeeck01 Gaslight yourself all you want. Its 30 weapons. You really think they're gonna nerf 30 weapons that just got an upgrade. Keep being ate up 🤡
The fact that the ammo thing actively blocks your reticule when aiming is still intensely stupid as a design choice. Didn't matter so much as a beam weapon; comically pants-on-head game design for a headshot based weapon.
Its a good weapon, but between all the explosive weapons we got and the torid being a monster of a beam weapon, the Atomos doesnt really bring anything new to the table. Good weapon, mid incarnon
@@IplayTeemoasaWard For me who missed Lex Incarnon, Atomos seems like a good choice. I see the comparison between Torid and Atomos moot since one is primary and one is secondary. I'm more interested in how Atomos compares to something like Laetum instead.
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Incarnons really do just do what DE originally said Rivens would do dont they..
Nah, rivens are already busted. The Incarnons are literally beyond overkill.
@@gregh.7907 The point is that DE originally said that rivens were to "breathe life into the older weapons" and to basically bring them up to par with the actually good weapons... which they never did, they just made the crap weapons a bit more usable but still not good.
These incarnons actually let those old weapons compete with the good weapons.
Not all rivens are equal. I have 180. Keep rolling.
@@KesslerCOIL In that case the Atomos is a bad example. That shit still slaps at base. As shown in the vidya.
@@117johnpar yeah it's still good, but completely outclassed by Kuva Nukor and Tenet Cycron in every way, despite them doing the same thing.
Okay, I was not prepared for that Thrax jump-scare in the beginning. Goddamn
Eight months later and here I am being jump scared for literally no reason
It’s been forever since I’ve seen the old simulacrum.
oh yeah? well i see it all the time cause i have no idea how to go to the other one 😎
The Ballroom Simulacrum was a reward from Operation: Scarlet Spear, Operation: Orphix Venom, and as a treat from Nights of Naberus.
So unless some new event comes, just wait for the Halloween event and buy it from daughter. 👍
@@davidadoram-kershner9013 I did not know how to get it either. Thank you.
@bryan adam You're welcome, buddy! I didn't remember how I got it, so I had to look it up... I'm glad I could help you with it!
This has gotta be the first time I’ve seen people give a weapon flak for being good. And what makes it extra strange is that it’s good in both forms.
it's just because every other incarnon pick this week other than the dual ichor is better than it
It's not "OP" like the others (I blame the 2nd evolution tree not working at all and the Atomos not having sexy red crits for that tbh), it's just good or great even, that's why it's getting flak.
@@girlchildrevoIution dual ichor is definitely great, it fixed the status problem it had and makes it one of the best corpus killers, if not the best. Granted, you don't need a dedicated corpus killer for most of the content, but level cap runs, especially disruption, benefit so much from having one. I'll definitely be picking it the next time it comes around. Meanwhile Atomos is pretty underwhelming, charging the incarnon form is harder than on any other weapon, and the incarnon form itself isn't exceptional in any way, so it's essentially just a buff to the main form, which just makes it a kuva nukor sidegrade.
@@Starcanum-I can speak from experience since I grabbed it this week that Dual Ichor is easily one of the best melee weapons right now and I'd argue it sits in Glaive Prime's bracket. It can actually be used as a regular melee weapon and chews through crowd after crowd on Steel Path as if we were back in 2016 with the original unnerfed Condition Overload, it's amazing.
Lol!! Welcome to Warframe! It's not about being OP, it's about being OPer or the OPest! 😂😂😂
This and the Torid are both stupidly good in their base forms, which is nice because when the charge in their Incarnon forms run out, the fun doesn’t stop
for like a couple of shots :/
Both of which I chose this week *-*
This is how I'm hoping Incarnons are, going forward.
What I'd really like is if they let you switch between Incarnon and normal mode without losing your current Incarnon charge, and just make all the Incarnon weapons good in their base form. They're already half way there with a bunch of them.
@@HaveYouTriedGuillotines Honestly, I'd much prefer if Incarnon forms serve as a small power boost. WIth the stat buffs, it's not like the base form of some of the more busted incarnons are bad...like the Torid or Latron...their incarnon form just make it completely pointless to use the base form over it.
Though, I'd say, the Atomos's base form seems kinda on par with incarnon form, at least until we'll see how it really is when the bugs on it are fixed.
the atomos was my most used weapon before the kuva nukor, i never seen anyone using it either. i was pretty confused because of how good it was. but now i guess i'll be seeing a lot more.
Honestly, I just read it as a "The Mega Buster UWU," and I had no questions until Brozime called attention to the abbreviation.
The chaining on the base Atomos also hits Charger heads very easily so it's actually easier to charge incarnon vs infested with this one
Well this week was hard to choose. I skipped both the Toroid and Átomos for the Dual Toxicyst and Miter. Don’t regret it tho, the 2 pistols become full auto that still benefits from the innate passive and bullets bounce, and in top they now can have crits too! and the Miter saw now bounce and explode! while tracking enemies.
I really like the dual toxocysts as well, can’t decide on just having cold with a slash mod, or putting extra elementals
miter+dual toxocyst is def the better choice for high level play. atomos and torid may be "fun", but they just can't reach the level of the other two weapons.
@@excaligaming2435 🤣 🤣 level cap red torid says otherwise.
@@excaligaming2435 bro it was a good choice but not better anybody who didn't choose torid or atomos never used it before incarnon it was already ignis + nukor now it has sporelacer aswell
I have a catchmoon.
I have a nukor.
Uh!
Catchmoomnukor!
I personally found the status and crit fourth evo to work out better, as proccing more heat ramps up damage while still critting consistently more for a damage buff
With a crit/crit dam riven taking the crit/status is awesome. I could also see grabbing the status and using it as a beaming Epitaph replacement for getting the most out of CO.
Blue bomber cosplay? Mushroom gun + nukor? Not even a minute in and I'm sold. Building another Atomos as soon as I get back on.
the telos atomos skin looks waaaay cleaner than base btw, would highly recommend for your megaman setup
hes already using it in the video. doesnt really matter though, because incarnon mode resets whatever skin you're using to default.
Starting to think DE just gave in and said, screw it, let them have fun.
Oh they'll find a way to stop the fun... "We discovered a bug with all incarnons where they were applying stats to the base additively instead of multiplicatively. Also, we halved the stat increases on all weapons, and cut the ammo pool to 10%. Changing between forms will now take 45sec and with each use it drains 25% health and shields"
Expect something ridiculous like this the next time they have a look at usage stats...
That jumpscare at the start wtf
lmao
nice video man. im glad I can understand what you're saying unlike other warframe channels.
See this what I want for Chroma's Spectral scream. I want it to evolve from a continuous stream attack into a single instance high intensity blast attack that scales a little bit with enemy health. It would be nice.
Plus, having your Effigy follow you about like a sentinel shooting its own beam and maybe that roar it does actually brings enemies closer rather than disperse them.
Anyone who doesn't know what the "simple trick" is for incarnons and other weapons. Damage resistances from Attenuation are partially ignored due to multiple damage instances. Prisma Lenz is another example where damage hits in multiple parts and has a delay, so acolytes melt.
The Megaman sound bits are GOLD
" You are more powerful than you were before, but Sigma is much more than he appears to be. You're going to need an edge. Take my arm cannon and your attack power should increase. Good Luck, X! "
Awesome I'm not sleeping tonight, thanks Brozime😊
I was a dummy and chose the miter instead of the atomos as my second option so I gotta wait another 6 weeks for this. At least I got my torid this week lol
the miter is an S tier incarnon tho, you def did not pick incorrectly at the time
Ok, the Duviri jumpscare woke me up
I noticed that this weapon’s new form struggles against Corpus enemies, quite badly. Their shields prevent you from 1-shotting them. In my experience, it’s not even worth shooting at them. It takes every shot you have to get through a small group of shielded enemies.
I tried it in this week's Archon defense involving Corpus. Alt form was more useless than just using the thing normally.
Did you try using Toxin and Magnetic?
@@theexurian1079 Nop since lazy to swap out heat and viral, but if those were slotted it would've been a different story.
I'm liking using rhino with mesa ability sub onto him or other buff and "secondary kinship" now i have it at rank 3 (13% crit per buff. max 20% per buff) before that was using "secondary encumber" with good results.
This test would look a little different in today's Warframe given the new Kuva Grineer subfaction, and their resistance to heat damage, but I do love this secondary regardless. Now to hope Plague Star doesn't vanish for 2 years again, or get rich in plat to actually *obtain* fulmination or it's prune variant. Thankfully the primed does seem like it's the last three rotations have been about every 6 months, which means it should be due to be back soon.
That being said with the blast buffs, this thing will absolutely SHRED even harder in the Incarnon form, so it probably would go just as good if not better, come to think of it.
One of my favourite weps. Because of this I refused to get the kukor. Anyway the MIGHTY SEER is still better
The time loop extends.
I prefer having the ammo for the third incarnon. I have ruinous extension giving me all the range I realistically need. Having an extra 210 ammo is huge on the atomos
Damn alot a new stuff I will be getting and trying haven't played in awhile
When Megaman is done with everyone's shit
Incarnons are what rivens were supposed to be
I use archon continuity to make her crystal apply 5 statuses and rarely use her 4th. If I were to subsume anything it would probably be that
Whats the WWYU stand for? Didnt hear i clearly
Why would you use
@@thegoat4617
the joke
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Your head
I thought it meant “what would Yareli use?”
Honestly I expected this to be good. The real take away from this video is that I need to forma my citrine
Thanks for the jumpscare at the start
Part of me is sad I chose the mitter and dual toxocyst, but I'm sure they'll also be fun.
I can assure you the Miter is amazing. I oneshot an acolyte in a test steel path run earlier today. Its so good
Toxocyst are insane what
Time to dust off that riven i got back 3 years ago
Why there is no Hornet Strike for 165% dmg in this build? I've seen many builds lately and somehow ppl stopped to use Hornet Strike or Serration
It's diminishing returns vs the arcanes, and to do this build he needs every slot to just get everything he wants, mechanics wise, on the gun.
For clarity - Secondary Merciless at max rank gives +30% damage for 4s and stacks up to 12x. Stacks decay one at a time instead of dumping all at once after 4s, making it much easier to keep maxed. That's 360% damage. Hornet Strike adds to that because they're classed as the same part of the damage calculation formula. So for the cost of an entire mod slot, you go from +360% to +425% damage. It is technically More Damage, but +360% is Enough for most things and you can get more crit or other useful stats with that mod slot instead.
Does "on shield break" mean when my shield breaks or when I use it to break an enemy's shield?
Probably yours.
Why is he using Hoplite if it doesnt work? Wouldnt you just use Paladin and switch if it gets fixed?
Wasn’t that timer on like 3 days 2 days ago? Why’s it gone up?
Twitch subathon. Whenever people sub, or donate, or whatever the timer goes up to indicate he won't stop streaming until it's at 0
This shit just auto-played again after I finished it, I didn't jump but that jumpscare confused me so much for just a second
goddamn dominus jumpscare
how is Brozime taking so little damage? One of these enemies would oneshot my shields and after that my health but here they only seem to do as little as 4 damage to shields.
Adaptation plus Citrine's 90% DR. He's not playing evasively so Adaptation is consistently at full power. Notice he evaporated the moment he forgot his 2 despite that.
@@George_M_ ah, thank you very much. I always struggle with survivability in steel path and high level missions in general so I may grind out citrine and try her
so when are they dropping steel path 2? because the incarnons have just solidified that steel path is crushed.
I just wondering what is that count down?
Everyone is talking about the weapon, but I'm like wtf was that intro.
...I have an Excalibur done up like Omega Zero that *needs* this Incarnon.
Who would have thought I'd be using Atomos and Miter in 2023/24...
I should have picked the Miter instead of the Atomos.
Man DE should really give all content creatos the Incarnons. You would love the Miter, its bubba-busted
Honestly i would use a infinite yareli build with the gun so that i can spam it
Hello Twitch !
The timer is to postpone DMC5, I'm postive
After having latron, strun, lex and torid this seems kinda mid ngl
What is with the timer
As requested, engagement!
why would you do this to me
The round pointer of death.
Couple things here. I think Broz likes to slot a heat mod on stuff where it really doesn't belong. The heat mod is putting in work for the beam form, but doing virtually nothing for the aoe form vs if he put Galvanised Shot or even Crosshairs and this is often the case with his builds so they work fine for base level steel path like most things do, but could be a lot better.
2nd I think the beam form of this weapon with the new upgrades is way better than the AoE and will scale further into Steel Path than the AoE that really isn't doing much compared to Mushroom or Plinx or any other AoE secondary that could take this thing's slot and not have the crazy ammo issues Atomos has. We can see how well it performs on base Steel Path in the video, and this is without Galvanized Shot which would significantly up the damage.
3rd I think this weapon really needs to be built for either the Beam form OR the AoE form because otherwise they both suffer. It's like the beam form is an A+ and the AoE form is an A and if you build for both like in this vid they go down to A and B respectively.
Finally when I said I think Brozime uses a heat mod way too often, I mean for any time he's modding a weapon that you're equipping to one shot a group of dudes, the heat mod is going to do absolutely nothing compared to (For primaries) Vigilante Armaments / Hammer Shot etc etc. and (For secondaries) Galvanized Shot, Bane mod, etc. I only started noticing this with his Lex vid where it's there to one shot a whole room of enemies but he's got PHC on which does make Number Go Up but not as much as Galvanized Shot would, not to mention just running Corrosive for the damage multiplier would end up being a lot more damage as well while Viral is swell but we're all running Viral Cat and Viral isnt helping us one shot stuff anyway without full stripping them first.
Except Galvanized Shot, like all of those mods, only works on DIRECT damage, not radial AoEs. So in fact, you don't know what you're talking about.
I knew this weapon was good u just have to us the right parts 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Brozime literally mispronounces everything under the sun, inlcudeing his own name. Trolling at the highest level
Another weapon with underwhelming ammo economy. When is DE going to realize that balancing a weapon with ammo economy isn't fun for players
I picked this instantly when I saw the rotation change thinking it's gonna be some split beam stuff or something; what a disappointment to see it become another generic launcher.
Wao
>Citrine
>Rockman
Primo
Wow 7 forma
citrine is megawoman now
AGAIN!
It's kinda underwhelming though compared to a few of the other incarnon weapons. It's just staticor pretty much. Kinda boring
doin a engage smh
Can't wait for DE to start nerfing the incarnons are their weapons >_>
We can never have anything that's fun and really powerful in this game.. just not allowed.
They literally just came out and you're being all doom and gloom. Relax. They're not gonna suddenly nerf 30 weapons they finally made viable in Endgame.
@@leonseuropeanislandadventu7398 Riiiiiight.. .because they don't already have a long fucking record of doing that? Oh wait... they do
@@MrZeeck01 Gaslight yourself all you want. Its 30 weapons. You really think they're gonna nerf 30 weapons that just got an upgrade. Keep being ate up 🤡
@@MrZeeck01 I mean, the Laetum and Phenmor supposedly got "nerfed" and both weapons are still one of the most powerful in the entire game.
Imagine a world where (DE)sappointment released incarnons with everything working
do samus
The fact that the ammo thing actively blocks your reticule when aiming is still intensely stupid as a design choice. Didn't matter so much as a beam weapon; comically pants-on-head game design for a headshot based weapon.
What do you mean by blocking? It’s under the reticle, and you mainly wanna focus on the dot in the center anyway
Seems Mid
Its a good weapon, but between all the explosive weapons we got and the torid being a monster of a beam weapon, the Atomos doesnt really bring anything new to the table. Good weapon, mid incarnon
@@IplayTeemoasaWard For me who missed Lex Incarnon, Atomos seems like a good choice. I see the comparison between Torid and Atomos moot since one is primary and one is secondary. I'm more interested in how Atomos compares to something like Laetum instead.
200% mid.
What a weak atomos
First!
Do sun & moon next pls