Maiden Air not really it’s just a general term for fire trucks and ambo. So in the video the ATC just asking do you need the fire truck to meet you at the runway and pilot say yes cause he is probably worry about their is a chance of the right engine catch on fire after stopping/slowing on the runway
@@RobinHood70 It took me a second to pick up on it....which is kinda pathetic on my part because I was watching the source of that quote not so very long ago
Perfect level of communication between controllers and crew on all legs - it's like they were all best buddies or something, no miscommunications, the tower controller even caught the altitude bleed rate towards the end which the pilot was clearly looking at already, and solved the problem before he even had to ask. THAT'S team worm. Sounded like CRM was very good, with the handoff of comms versus checklists and flying the plane clearly taking place seamlessly as well. Both pilots seemed to be well aware of their positions around the area and the VOR's etc even though they were changing flying duties and off course for the return. Just very good situational awareness and CRM all around it seems like - pretty experienced pilots and definitely lots of flying in the area.
Smitty Smithsonite....so true “like hey mr. pilot, surfs up, think you can get that bird on the ground so I can go ride some tasty waves”...lol (greetings from the North East
Ever since the Trans American 209er pre-flight oil check incident, ground crew has been scared and fails to do a proper inspection causing things like these to happen.
Slightly OT: I read years ago that having ADD is like having 5 channels on TV playing at the same time. And that some people with it make good pilots and ER physicians as what may be perceived as chaotic situations, with many things happening at once, is relatively normal and not overwhelming, and they have a laser like focus.. I know FAA probably has restrictions for anyone who is on medication but for those who are not there probably is no restriction if it has not come to the formal attention of physicians. "Driven To Distraction : Recognizing and Coping with Attention Deficit Disorder from Childhood Through Adulthood"
@@SusanKay- I don't think that the area where they were would be approved for dumping. You have planes all around you there. Probably the calculations the pilots mention early into the EM was their ability to land at SFO.
It's likely yes, at the least you can feel the sound and vibrations in the air frame change when 1 engine shuts off. That and I'm sure they had been briefed by crew.
@@SusanKay- it was a cross-country flight, yes. 146 including crew is a bit of a light passenger load, the Delta 757-200 looks to have approx. 180 passenger seats. Light passenger load also means a lighter fuel load. This plane was very likely not over the MLW resulting in no need to dump or burn fuel.
American Airlines had to return yesterday AAL2497 out of DFW. Was enroute to Memphis (KMEM). You should check it out, it was around 1800Z/1300 local yesterday.
Love the videos! Thanks for your work putting these together. Just a small note. As a private pilot based in Oakland I recognize the airspace. It appears you have the old SFO Bravo, not the current one.
Interesting. The flight time from SFO - EWR on any internet source I can find is between 4 hours and 45m to 5 hours. They had been at it for a while (taxi, takeoff, climb out , declare emergency, run checklists, etc) before declaring this info though, and were already on a downwind for the runway 28L approach.
Probably you have a false understanding of fuel consumption of an Aircraft. While it takes a huge amount of fuel to get the aircraft from ground to cruise altitude it takes far less fuel from there back on the ground. Plus while theyre losing weight on cruising the actual consumption/Hour reduces even further. Iam not into that standarts. But usually fuel is calculated with enough room for 1-2 alternate airports and even a final Reserve which shouldnt be used of like 30 minutes.
@@pluisjenijn You have a point. The remaining fuel is a meaningless number unless it's low enough to be a concern. Note that in the recent Aussie case, it was never requested by the ATC.
iaf22 yeah I was looking at FR24 and there was a airport vehicle on the take off runway and a Southwest flight ready to take off on the landing runway. I think that’s why he did a go around. I just wanted to hear the audio. Maybe there was stuff on the takeoff runway. It’s just so rare to see these things in LA.
Susan Kay it wasn’t windy. I checked the weather. I’m pretty sure there was debris on the active takeoff runway and a flight was taking off from the landing runway prompting them to turnaround.
Some plane models have maximum landing weights that are far lower than their maximum takeoff weights, so they have fuel dumping systems in case of needing an emergency landing shortly after takeoff.
@@xnopyt13 Probably something cracked, letting oil out, causing bearings to overheat or letting exhaust into an area not protected against heat. Engines are made from everything from titanium and steel which will never melt(in an engine), to aluminum and plastic(in wiring), which can't take much heat at all.
Nah, I don't believe you. I challenge you to count how many words are written in the video and how many of those are wrong. Then we'll take percentage of error ;)
![[REAL ATC] Aeromexico WITH POSSIBLE LEAK OF SOME FLUID over New York!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ekJSR7M-edA/mqdefault.jpg)
![[REAL ATC] American B757 has COMPLETE RADIO FAILURE out of Kennedy!](/img/1.gif)
*This is professional!*
"We'll just get on the ground and then we'll figure it out"
VASAviation - a small plane crashed in Lansing Michigan on Thursday. FYI
"Oh, that part will happen most definitely!" (watch this for about 1 minute) -> ruclips.net/video/ZnwEatEZek0/видео.html
This ATC controller did a good job of minimizing his calls to avoid crew distraction. It's the "sterile cockpit" concept. Very well done.
Agree!
5:40
Controller: "Do you need anything special at the runway?"
Pilot: "Oh yes, why not?"
Not special is equipment
@@JerryLaw is that a pilot term?
Maiden Air not really it’s just a general term for fire trucks and ambo.
So in the video the ATC just asking do you need the fire truck to meet you at the runway and pilot say yes cause he is probably worry about their is a chance of the right engine catch on fire after stopping/slowing on the runway
Can we get some pants?
And a pizza?
Good thing they have that “A LITTLE HOT” warning light for the engines.
Judging from the number of likes, I'm guessing that reference went over a lot of people's heads. I feel old now. 😛
@@RobinHood70 I thought everyone knows that reference, but maybe we're all a little old now lol
An interesting point is that light indicates high CHT, which goes with the sound effects but not the visuals.
@@RobinHood70 It took me a second to pick up on it....which is kinda pathetic on my part because I was watching the source of that quote not so very long ago
Mid 40's here, and I still think it's one of the best movies of all time ... besides Smokey & The Bandit, of course.😁
Perfect level of communication between controllers and crew on all legs - it's like they were all best buddies or something, no miscommunications, the tower controller even caught the altitude bleed rate towards the end which the pilot was clearly looking at already, and solved the problem before he even had to ask. THAT'S team worm. Sounded like CRM was very good, with the handoff of comms versus checklists and flying the plane clearly taking place seamlessly as well. Both pilots seemed to be well aware of their positions around the area and the VOR's etc even though they were changing flying duties and off course for the return. Just very good situational awareness and CRM all around it seems like - pretty experienced pilots and definitely lots of flying in the area.
That controller was awesome. The Male Pilot had his “ I’m bored “ inner Chuck Yeager going , the other one , not so much
I like how he asked her to repeat, taking no chances something could go wrong
Had that same problem with my Chevrolet Monza 89. Didn´t handle it that well...
Decent and maintain 3000
6:01 We've got 147 souls- *someone dies* 146 souls onboard
An Obiwan (off-by-one) error.
"Er, correction, tower. Copilot reports he's a scientific anti-theist. So that'll be 145 souls."
Thanks for uploading! I think the atc has done an amazing work in my eyes
I loved ATC here. Pilots were awesome too. Clear on intentions and concise.
So blessed to have SFO-OAK-SJC all like 5 to 1 min away from one another.
A lot of airports are like that
Finally a laid back controller in the US, that takes his time and no rush and just lets the pilots do their job.
That's because he's on the WEST coast. 😁
Smitty Smithsonite....so true “like hey mr. pilot, surfs up, think you can get that bird on the ground so I can go ride some tasty waves”...lol (greetings from the North East
@@robertgoodnow5069 - I knew my Northeastern brethren would get that one. 😎
2:39 pro move by ATC
Great job on the video as always!
Another great video, Thanks!
Probably just a Faulty EGT(exhaust gas temperature )Sensor. Or egt wiring harness. Great job by pilots, controller , etc etc.
Ever since the Trans American 209er pre-flight oil check incident, ground crew has been scared and fails to do a proper inspection causing things like these to happen.
Slightly OT: I read years ago that having ADD is like having 5 channels on TV playing at the same time. And that some people with it make good pilots and ER physicians as what may be perceived as chaotic situations, with many things happening at once, is relatively normal and not overwhelming, and they have a laser like focus.. I know FAA probably has restrictions for anyone who is on medication but for those who are not there probably is no restriction if it has not come to the formal attention of physicians.
"Driven To Distraction : Recognizing and Coping with Attention Deficit Disorder from Childhood Through Adulthood"
Great channel! Love it !
You do an excellent Job on these Videos TYVM
Thank you for watching!
This occurred on July 26, 2019 in case anyone was trying to find it.
Great vid (as always). Would the passengers have known they were flying on just one engine?
First rows passengers may see the right engine stopped or even feel it or hear it stop.
@@SusanKay- I don't think that the area where they were would be approved for dumping. You have planes all around you there. Probably the calculations the pilots mention early into the EM was their ability to land at SFO.
@@SusanKay- They didn't dump, they didn't land heavy.
It's likely yes, at the least you can feel the sound and vibrations in the air frame change when 1 engine shuts off. That and I'm sure they had been briefed by crew.
@@SusanKay- it was a cross-country flight, yes. 146 including crew is a bit of a light passenger load, the Delta 757-200 looks to have approx. 180 passenger seats. Light passenger load also means a lighter fuel load. This plane was very likely not over the MLW resulting in no need to dump or burn fuel.
American Airlines had to return yesterday AAL2497 out of DFW. Was enroute to Memphis (KMEM). You should check it out, it was around 1800Z/1300 local yesterday.
Reason?
Was that a Rolls engine or Pratt that overheated?
Nice
Love the videos! Thanks for your work putting these together. Just a small note. As a private pilot based in Oakland I recognize the airspace. It appears you have the old SFO Bravo, not the current one.
The Bravo is not depicted on this radar map,
Just 5 hours of fuel for a transcon flight? Is that 5 hours to zero fuel or to minimum fuel?
Alex G 5 hours to zero fuel.
Interesting. The flight time from SFO - EWR on any internet source I can find is between 4 hours and 45m to 5 hours. They had been at it for a while (taxi, takeoff, climb out , declare emergency, run checklists, etc) before declaring this info though, and were already on a downwind for the runway 28L approach.
Probably you have a false understanding of fuel consumption of an Aircraft. While it takes a huge amount of fuel to get the aircraft from ground to cruise altitude it takes far less fuel from there back on the ground. Plus while theyre losing weight on cruising the actual consumption/Hour reduces even further. Iam not into that standarts. But usually fuel is calculated with enough room for 1-2 alternate airports and even a final Reserve which shouldnt be used of like 30 minutes.
Well, 5 hours on single engine at low altitude. On 2 engines and at high altitude, the fuel consumption is much lower.
@@pluisjenijn You have a point. The remaining fuel is a meaningless number unless it's low enough to be a concern. Note that in the recent Aussie case, it was never requested by the ATC.
It departed for Newark seven hours later.
Why United 1255 descended so slowly ?
FYI the SFO bravo does not look like that anymore....
The Bravo is not depicted on this ATC map
I just saw a United Airlines 787-10 EWR to LAX do a go around today at around 6:25 PST. Did you know what happened? It looked out of the odd.
a go around is a normal procedure that can have many MANY different reasons. (unstabilized approach, runway occupied, atc order,...)
iaf22 yeah I was looking at FR24 and there was a airport vehicle on the take off runway and a Southwest flight ready to take off on the landing runway. I think that’s why he did a go around. I just wanted to hear the audio. Maybe there was stuff on the takeoff runway. It’s just so rare to see these things in LA.
Susan Kay it wasn’t windy. I checked the weather. I’m pretty sure there was debris on the active takeoff runway and a flight was taking off from the landing runway prompting them to turnaround.
Susan Kay no but I do visit the in n out a lot of times.
Susan Kay might check it out someday.
Who filmed the sim?
Why can they land with 5 hours of fuel and others have to dump in the same scenario?
Some plane models have maximum landing weights that are far lower than their maximum takeoff weights, so they have fuel dumping systems in case of needing an emergency landing shortly after takeoff.
@@THCAPI interesting. Surprised the EPA hasn't put a kibosh to fuel dumping, like they did with diesel vehicle deletes.
There were only 146 onboard so I assume they were not that heavy whereas planes having to dump fuel are more likely to be fully loaded.
Different airplanes have different MLW. Different fuel weight or payload give different Gross weight too
@zombieeater42 He's landing heavy is what I am trying to say. Why him and not others?
Any idea what date this occurred?
At the start of the video on the 1st line.
Always beginning of the video.
What causes an overheat?
Many factors can cause an overheat. Fuel injection, low or high speed compressors, leaks...
The engine was turned on
Would this be considered PANPAN or MAYDAY?
They declared an emergency so mayday, panpan is an urgent situation that isn’t an immediate threat to the aircraft but still requires assistance.
Losing an engine is a mayday my dudes
Norman Vasquez He declared an emergency. That’s exactly the same as mayday.
@@Th3Sw3DiShDuD31 depends how many engines the plane has. Not always a Mayday
Pilot decides.
Right base with engine 2 (right) inop. Slightly not fair.
That is not a problem at all on a turbine engine. We don't suffer from torque
@@VASAviation But asymmetric thrust and higher Vme1 ... always a bit harder to keep bird in line.
No big deal. Rudder exists.
I wounder how close to the assymetric flying envelope they got with the final turn into the dead engine. Given the low speed and altitude...
That's not a big deal on this airplanes. Way worse on a turboprop.
They just need to stay coordinated and at a safe speed such that the load factor will not cause an accelerated Stall
Java could not resolve. :(
where does that soul and fuel request come from?
They want the statistics for the fire fighters.
So they know how bad the fire can get and they don't keep searching for bodies that don't exist.
@@fhuber7507 Sometimes the persons seems... We have computers you know. Everything is in the computers.
ThreeGhost From the controller. Because the controller is following standard protocol for an emergency aircraft.
@R Mack The paper comes from a computer, and people also make mistake so - yes, it's always some uncertainties.
@R Mack No, i meant that the pilot reads it from a paper.
Lol 7:28
Norcal Departure: "... *resume normal speed* climb and maintain FL190"
EVA 027 : "Climb and maintain FL190, *cleared for high speed* EVA 027"
Their normal speed are most likely be above 250 knots below 10,000 ftthat why she said high speed
And what's funny about that?
"normal" = "unregulated" in this case, i.e., as high as you wish.
@@JerryLaw I see. I learn something ne
w. thanks
@@GalihStone different country say this differently as well
What jet engines can overheat?
All of them
VASAviation - never knew that! Thanks
@@xnopyt13 Probably something cracked, letting oil out, causing bearings to overheat or letting exhaust into an area not protected against heat.
Engines are made from everything from titanium and steel which will never melt(in an engine), to aluminum and plastic(in wiring), which can't take much heat at all.
coast2coast00 that makes sense. Thanks
RIP
Multiple subtitle errors again...
I wish that's all I had to worry about in life
Nah, I don't believe you. I challenge you to count how many words are written in the video and how many of those are wrong. Then we'll take percentage of error ;)
So what? It does not affect the quality of the video at all
Reason 87...Why I no longer fly. 😎
First? Lol
Congratulations.
@@marcoN1 thanks bro! Lol. It's been a life long dream of mine 😊