Many of you have asked for a Dance Battle between Kalani and Maddie Ziegler. What age category should we go with to choose the solos? I would say they both were at their peak at like 12 if anyone has any solo suggestions ?
The best dancers I know from this era were Tate McCrae, Briar Nolet, Brynn Rumfallo, Kalani Hilliker and Maddie Ziegler. I'm thinking maybe a Dance Battle of Tate McCrae and Briar Nolet as they were both from the competition circuit here in Canada where I'm from, as well as Maybe Brynn vs. Kalani as they are both Phoenix Dancers. Is there anybody else you would like to see go head to head in a dance battle video?
You can’t compare when Maddie has been doing the same Choreography for years . Maddie was never challenged . Maddie was doing repetitive choreography , the choreography may have been put in different order but it was the same . Even in the group dances , Maddie was given only what she was good at .
So why was she an excellent hip hop dancer too? And tapper? Why is she good in every style including Latin on DWTS? You don’t know what you’re talking about. Real dancers know you train at the barre every single day. All the same steps, everyday. That’s how you get EXCELLENT, repetition.
@@JordanJSparks What are you talking about? At 11 years old she wasn't good at hip hop or anything different besides the usual and tap. SHE GOT TRAINING AS A TEENAGER SOMEWHERE ELSE. But sure let's compare at the age Maddie was when she became a good hiphop dancer or was on DWTS with Briar at that age. Briar all the way , no doubt. How in the world do you disagree with the statement of "maddie was given only what she was good at" WHICH IS TRUE at competitions. Briar got challenged in her dances for competition, where ofc she messes up sometimes bc she learned new stuff. The orgininal comment was RIGHT, you can't compare especially giving loads of stuff was edited out of Briar's dance & it wasn't even a solo.
@@Lexi2015-f Yes, Maddie continued to improve over the years, but I don't understand your point... Briar was not excellent yet at ANY style at 11. She went on to continue to train and become better as well. What's your point?
@@Lexi2015-f Maddie has always been good at hip hop. That was the first style she took at the aldc at 4 years old, that's where her dancing journey began. I've never seen a clip of her doing hiphop at any age where it wasn't good, and even on the show she was still dancing HipHop and training with other studios. If Maddie was given 'only what she was good at', then she was good at A LOT! She won the Dance Awards, she won with a Ballet Lyrical , She won with straight Lyrical, she won with Contemporary, she won with Tap, she won with Jazz, she won with Musical Theatre, that's not just 'one' thing, that's a variety of different genres that are entirely different.
I certainly have NOT seen Briar go on and win or be excellent in MULTIPLE different styles, certainly not as many as Maddie has excelled in. I see Briar consistently doing heavily Acro centered contemporary pieces and that's it.
I thought for sure Briar would kill maddie, 😅sorry, but seeing the footage..... I was surprised how graceful and smooth maddie looked in comparison...go maddie❤😊
It’s totally just style, Briar is a fantastic acrobat and gymnast and Maddie comes from a studio where graceful and pretty movement and lines are prioritized over everything else. Both ladies are great in their own right
Maddie does the same stuff constantly, of course she is more polished on it bc Briar didn't just train on those things maddie did. Whereas Briar excels at way more other things which makes her a better dancer later on bc at that age it's about improvement. Also they choice the best videos of maddie at that age, you could pick many whereas you didn't have that choice with Briar. Briar most definitely didn't do similar choreo ever week like Abby made Maddie do, Maddie is great but really not comparable to Briar as a complete dancer
@@JordanJSparks at different levels and we both know there was put more value on certain styles at the Abby lee dance company + Like I said Maddie never got to improve as much as briar did bc she wasn't learned new stuff, things like a scorpion on relevé. Let's give an example do you think the level of Abby's 1 hour gymnatics class is at the same level Briar got? Many moves in the video at 11 years old of briar they didn't show because Maddie didn't do those moves. They only compared the moves Maddie could do. Let's not talk about Abby's ballet classes that apparently didn't happen often. Maddie is less of a dancer bc of Abby & the show. They prioritized winning over improvement.
I would never compare things like a Full back split, or 'scorpion' on releve, you either inherently have the natural facility to get to that level of flexibility or you don't. It's a contortion step. Maddie's body is not built to do that. I don't know where you are getting one hour dance class though, the girls on dance moms danced intensely even during their off season, like 40 hours a week and Abby only coached them for the show, all of their classes at the ALDC were taught by experts in their genres, plus they trained at numerous dance conventions around the world as well as at other studios and on other tv shows. As a Dance Coach, I can see where your level of artistry and technique are at regardless of what steps you are doing. Maddie went on to win best junior dancer at The Dance Awards with All God's Creatures. You don't win at the Dance Awards unless you're the overall best dancer there, it had nothing to do with connections or the show, Maddie was a phenomenal dancer. Briar went on to be an amazing acrobat, but comparing them both at 11 years old, Briar had a tonne of work to do and her technique was definitely lacking. I don't think one dancer is better than the other, but Briar going on to become an incredible dancer in later years takes nothing away from Maddie, and Maddie being a superior technical dancer at 11 takes away nothing from Briar.
I'm sure Briar's early training was also emphasizing certain styles, like Acro and Gymnastics. Every dancer prioritizes certain styles over other, and so does every single studio. I've never even seen Briar to do Tap for example. So the same can be said for both girls.
@@JordanJSparks well No bc you can't say "her technique was definitely lacking" when you have seen 1 video of her(which was a duet) of her compared to the countless of videos you have seen of maddie. Like I SAID YOU ARE ONLY COMPARING specific moves Maddie can do and not the other way around and base your score sheet based of that. Briar is much more than an acrobat, she has trained every style.The school she went to in Canada is at a way higher level than the Abby lee dance company. I wonder if you have seen the dances and different styles Briar has done on the next step. Almost any style she excels at, You can't make the conclusion that maddie was a better technical dancer at 11 bc like I said in that 1 duet you saw, she did many more challenging things which affected her simpler moves.I am not taking away anything from Maddie but Abby & the show held her back, It was 1 hour gymnatics class for example each day I got that info from the moms. Like I said in PITTSBURG it was NOT at the same level, once the show got popular and went to LA they indeed got trained by prof experts. I can give you many videos of Maddie performing those moves not as great as she did in the other solo. Have you seen stuff from briar with no acro or gymnastics? bc she is an amazing ballerina, has been since she has been young, she was/is very technical
Loved this video Jordan! Both are amazing dancers, but I agree that Maddie's fluidity, cleanness and overall performance really sets her apart. I would love to see other comparison videos in the future, particularly dance moms girls (maybe even the new cast?)
I would love to see you react to more the next step dances bc there are some amazing dancers in there such as Eldon(isaac) and many others Noah & Eldon "Oxygen" Duet is an amazing dance to watch
Video idea! I would love to see your top 10 (or any number) Maddie solos! You could also do a similar thing with dance moms group dances or just dance moms solos in general
Maddie started dance much younger than briar, who by the time she was 11 had only done 3.5 years of dance training, so of course her technique was a bit sloppy in comparison. If you want a fair competition look at them a few years older.
That’s true from what I’ve heard. Maddie started at 4, and I think Briar started gymnastics as a baby but I could be wrong. Unfortunately Maddie basically stopped dance training at 12 so there’s not much to compare after that. Briar is still dancing to this day and she’s phenomenal.
ziegler stan delusion strikes again. maddie had no leg muscles and was SLOPPYYYYY. idc about age briar became a dancer maddie could never have been close to lol.
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Many of you have asked for a Dance Battle between Kalani and Maddie Ziegler. What age category should we go with to choose the solos? I would say they both were at their peak at like 12 if anyone has any solo suggestions ?
The best dancers I know from this era were Tate McCrae, Briar Nolet, Brynn Rumfallo, Kalani Hilliker and Maddie Ziegler. I'm thinking maybe a Dance Battle of Tate McCrae and Briar Nolet as they were both from the competition circuit here in Canada where I'm from, as well as Maybe Brynn vs. Kalani as they are both Phoenix Dancers. Is there anybody else you would like to see go head to head in a dance battle video?
Definitely Maddie vs Kalani that would be so interesting
maddie vs kalani would be amazing
Jordan please would you give a reaction video to the Bird Gurlz music video please? It is beautiful.
As far as Maddie and Kalani go How about comparing Kalanis The Investment and Maddie Lizzie Bordan?
You can’t compare when Maddie has been doing the same Choreography for years . Maddie was never challenged . Maddie was doing repetitive choreography , the choreography may have been put in different order but it was the same . Even in the group dances , Maddie was given only what she was good at .
So why was she an excellent hip hop dancer too? And tapper? Why is she good in every style including Latin on DWTS? You don’t know what you’re talking about. Real dancers know you train at the barre every single day. All the same steps, everyday. That’s how you get EXCELLENT, repetition.
@@JordanJSparks What are you talking about? At 11 years old she wasn't good at hip hop or anything different besides the usual and tap. SHE GOT TRAINING AS A TEENAGER SOMEWHERE ELSE. But sure let's compare at the age Maddie was when she became a good hiphop dancer or was on DWTS with Briar at that age. Briar all the way , no doubt. How in the world do you disagree with the statement of "maddie was given only what she was good at" WHICH IS TRUE at competitions. Briar got challenged in her dances for competition, where ofc she messes up sometimes bc she learned new stuff. The orgininal comment was RIGHT, you can't compare especially giving loads of stuff was edited out of Briar's dance & it wasn't even a solo.
@@Lexi2015-f Yes, Maddie continued to improve over the years, but I don't understand your point... Briar was not excellent yet at ANY style at 11. She went on to continue to train and become better as well. What's your point?
@@Lexi2015-f Maddie has always been good at hip hop. That was the first style she took at the aldc at 4 years old, that's where her dancing journey began. I've never seen a clip of her doing hiphop at any age where it wasn't good, and even on the show she was still dancing HipHop and training with other studios. If Maddie was given 'only what she was good at', then she was good at A LOT! She won the Dance Awards, she won with a Ballet Lyrical , She won with straight Lyrical, she won with Contemporary, she won with Tap, she won with Jazz, she won with Musical Theatre, that's not just 'one' thing, that's a variety of different genres that are entirely different.
I certainly have NOT seen Briar go on and win or be excellent in MULTIPLE different styles, certainly not as many as Maddie has excelled in. I see Briar consistently doing heavily Acro centered contemporary pieces and that's it.
Maddie was more polished at 11 but to be fair, Briar from age 15 onward would eat EVERYONE she'd get to dance against.
Absolutely agree! Briar is like the most intense dancer I’ve ever seen in my life. Loved her on world of dance
I thought for sure Briar would kill maddie, 😅sorry, but seeing the footage..... I was surprised how graceful and smooth maddie looked in comparison...go maddie❤😊
It’s totally just style, Briar is a fantastic acrobat and gymnast and Maddie comes from a studio where graceful and pretty movement and lines are prioritized over everything else. Both ladies are great in their own right
I would love to see a video comparing Kalani to maddie , as I dancer I always thought Kalani was better but would love to here your thoughts ,
Kalani is boring compared to Maddie
@@johncrossacevedo1014 no sabes nada de danza
I would never say one dancer is ‘better’ than the other as that’s not what dance is about to me, but I could do a comparison video like this one
@@JordanJSparks yes I would really love to see a comparison video
Maddie does the same stuff constantly, of course she is more polished on it bc Briar didn't just train on those things maddie did. Whereas Briar excels at way more other things which makes her a better dancer later on bc at that age it's about improvement. Also they choice the best videos of maddie at that age, you could pick many whereas you didn't have that choice with Briar. Briar most definitely didn't do similar choreo ever week like Abby made Maddie do, Maddie is great but really not comparable to Briar as a complete dancer
They both trained in every style.
@@JordanJSparks at different levels and we both know there was put more value on certain styles at the Abby lee dance company + Like I said Maddie never got to improve as much as briar did bc she wasn't learned new stuff, things like a scorpion on relevé. Let's give an example do you think the level of Abby's 1 hour gymnatics class is at the same level Briar got? Many moves in the video at 11 years old of briar they didn't show because Maddie didn't do those moves. They only compared the moves Maddie could do. Let's not talk about Abby's ballet classes that apparently didn't happen often. Maddie is less of a dancer bc of Abby & the show. They prioritized winning over improvement.
I would never compare things like a Full back split, or 'scorpion' on releve, you either inherently have the natural facility to get to that level of flexibility or you don't. It's a contortion step. Maddie's body is not built to do that. I don't know where you are getting one hour dance class though, the girls on dance moms danced intensely even during their off season, like 40 hours a week and Abby only coached them for the show, all of their classes at the ALDC were taught by experts in their genres, plus they trained at numerous dance conventions around the world as well as at other studios and on other tv shows. As a Dance Coach, I can see where your level of artistry and technique are at regardless of what steps you are doing. Maddie went on to win best junior dancer at The Dance Awards with All God's Creatures. You don't win at the Dance Awards unless you're the overall best dancer there, it had nothing to do with connections or the show, Maddie was a phenomenal dancer. Briar went on to be an amazing acrobat, but comparing them both at 11 years old, Briar had a tonne of work to do and her technique was definitely lacking. I don't think one dancer is better than the other, but Briar going on to become an incredible dancer in later years takes nothing away from Maddie, and Maddie being a superior technical dancer at 11 takes away nothing from Briar.
I'm sure Briar's early training was also emphasizing certain styles, like Acro and Gymnastics. Every dancer prioritizes certain styles over other, and so does every single studio. I've never even seen Briar to do Tap for example. So the same can be said for both girls.
@@JordanJSparks well No bc you can't say "her technique was definitely lacking" when you have seen 1 video of her(which was a duet) of her compared to the countless of videos you have seen of maddie. Like I SAID YOU ARE ONLY COMPARING specific moves Maddie can do and not the other way around and base your score sheet based of that. Briar is much more than an acrobat, she has trained every style.The school she went to in Canada is at a way higher level than the Abby lee dance company. I wonder if you have seen the dances and different styles Briar has done on the next step. Almost any style she excels at, You can't make the conclusion that maddie was a better technical dancer at 11 bc like I said in that 1 duet you saw, she did many more challenging things which affected her simpler moves.I am not taking away anything from Maddie but Abby & the show held her back, It was 1 hour gymnatics class for example each day I got that info from the moms. Like I said in PITTSBURG it was NOT at the same level, once the show got popular and went to LA they indeed got trained by prof experts. I can give you many videos of Maddie performing those moves not as great as she did in the other solo. Have you seen stuff from briar with no acro or gymnastics? bc she is an amazing ballerina, has been since she has been young, she was/is very technical
Briar Nolet no doubt .
Today, no comparison. Briar is like the best dancer in the world lol
Loved this video Jordan! Both are amazing dancers, but I agree that Maddie's fluidity, cleanness and overall performance really sets her apart. I would love to see other comparison videos in the future, particularly dance moms girls (maybe even the new cast?)
Thank you!!
Would love to see you react to some Molly Longs iconic jazz groups!
I would love to see you react to more the next step dances bc there are some amazing dancers in there such as Eldon(isaac) and many others
Noah & Eldon "Oxygen" Duet is an amazing dance to watch
Can you review/critique an Ellary Day or Sylvie Win Szyndlar solo?
I’m not sure who they are but k could look into them!
They are big on the competition scene right now, and are easy to find by searching them up on RUclips or Google.
Agree they go to my daughter’s studio & are both very talented. I see them all over IG & RUclips.
Can you do maddie vs Chloe pleaseeeee
Video idea! I would love to see your top 10 (or any number) Maddie solos! You could also do a similar thing with dance moms group dances or just dance moms solos in general
I think I have already done both of those ideas but I could do new versions
Ohh ok I'll definitely check them out!
Maddie started dance much younger than briar, who by the time she was 11 had only done 3.5 years of dance training, so of course her technique was a bit sloppy in comparison. If you want a fair competition look at them a few years older.
That’s true from what I’ve heard. Maddie started at 4, and I think Briar started gymnastics as a baby but I could be wrong. Unfortunately Maddie basically stopped dance training at 12 so there’s not much to compare after that. Briar is still dancing to this day and she’s phenomenal.
Japan was supposed to be kalani google changed it
ziegler stan delusion strikes again. maddie had no leg muscles and was SLOPPYYYYY. idc about age briar became a dancer maddie could never have been close to lol.
I was entirely objective, and already mentioned Briar went on to be an incredible dancer. Sounds like you’re the delusional stan.
Japan is a better dancer for the fact she was taught more ballet from another teacher
Kalani did have great ballet training. Phoenix is a crazy intense dance training ground