New Anti-Varroa Mite Solution to Help Honey Bees
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HiveMaster is a device designed to monitor and treat honey bee colonies by scheduling small pulses of gas containing different compounds into the hive, without the need to open it at specific times throughout the week. It could be a great tool for beekeepers. I would love to see a formal field trial with commercial beekeepers in the U.S.
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What are your thoughts on this device? What features would you like to see included to make you want to try it out?
Would depend on the total cost. If that comes to $20-30/hive a year not including labor then it's a no brainer if it works.
Thanks for sharing and keeping us informed on all things new in the bee world, as Ryan Olthof said cost??? and personally I would like to be able to use OA through it or Thymol, as I keep clear of all miticides
Too many extra layers of cost.
How much is it?
No most concerns are does it work? And just as important how much?
These methods seem to me to be expensive, complicated, intrusive, and labor-intensive. I purchased one pesticide fogger many years ago which I still use, (never used with pesticides), purchased a bag of oxalic acid crystals, and a bottle of 100-proof alcohol. The bag and alcohol have lasted me years. Only two quick applications of a few puffs in the entrance, two weeks apart once a year, and I have never have a varroa mite problem.
Thanks for this! I’ll give it a try.
Where did you learn your method? Can you give some detailed directions?
We need a trial here in Australia before it spreads to all of our states. My state and my hives have not yet been affected by the mites and it would be a great test to see if the spread can be stopped or dramatically reduced.
I cannot believe how the graft and corruption of the almond cartel made them just give up the way they did. How corrupt is Australia??
Hi Humberto love your videos. I would love to put this in my hives in this trial would be great to have something like this here in Australia.
Hoping for the best 🐝for the health of the bees and for beekeepers economy. Great video Humberto 👍. Cheers from South America Uruguay 🇺🇾
I am glad you like it.
Best is natural progression of bees finding the right fix on there own... We just need to provide the right plants or nutrients for this..
I totally agree. Bees have been around for thousand's of years. Human intervention will cause issues.
The strong genetics will survive.
I like the idea of the delivery system. However, Amitraz is no longer affective on my colonies. I've used Amitraz two seasons. One was three years ago in which the mite levels increased during the treatments. Again two years ago with zero benefit. The mites in my area and many other beekeepers agree, have developed a resistance to the chemical.
If the system does develop into a deliver system like formic acid, oxalic acid, thymol (mentioned in the presentation), then I think they have something. Particularly if the doses can be administered at night when there is no one near the hives to be exposed to the treatments.
Keep working on this. I think there is a future for this type of treatment method.
I like the system because it can be flexible like beekeepers need it. Please reach out to the company and let them know your thoughts.
Thymol is an ingredient in Listerine, so I like it. Thymol isn't something that they can grow resistant to, either. You can obviously rinse you mouth with it, so no danger at all to humans.
If it doesn't affect the bees, it is a treatment that can remain in place. Nature often has a solution we humans like to overlook. Like growing mint all around your hives. Thymol is my choice. We like chemicals because we think we are smart. We never take the time to watch how nature works, and do that.
Obviously, the parasite is on the rise because of modern beekeeping methods. Our hands, our clothes, failure to wash tools betweens hives, could be many things we contaminate with.
Spray your tools with Thymol between hives, just to see. I keep a spray bottle of Listerine handy....it removes any trace of human when working with bees. P.S. You can even spray an infected bee with Listerine. They like a bath too. The patent on Listerine has expired so you can go to town on devices to administer it.
@@GEOsustainable thank for sharing your knowledge about thymol, I will check that. I stay away from "apivar and apistan because it's one treatment every 4-6years" if you dont want mites that resist to the treatment.
I never trust things these people say.
They fake any data to make a buck.
This looks like a promising tool, We tend to use Oxalic acid due to lower resistance development, but applying it can be a bit of an issue (February temps up here can be an issue to winter treatment). If this device would be adaptable to OA and avoid chemicals, that would be fantastic.
I think it is adaptable to any chemical. Natural or synthetic.
It would be a dream to lower hive mortality. I'm sick of buying packages.
Are you in Salem, OR? I’m in Portland. Zero losses in three years of beekeeping…but you *must* maintain low mite loads year-round
@@RyanMcDonnough nope Salem in New England.
@@salembeeman370
honeybeehealthcoalition.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/HBHC-Guide_Varroa-Mgmt_8thEd-082422.pdf
After 2 years of buying new bees I now raise my own using splits. So important, *Mite treament as late as October for winter and Candy boards to help them through winter".
That's your issue. Packages are junk. You need to buy nucs. Packages are a bunch of bees that don't belong, shaken into a box and a queen they dont know is stuck in there.
Very interesting and coming from the heartland of bees and technology, perhaps a new start for beekeepers
Fingers crossed.
Just moved a nuc to a 10 frame and have a 10 frame that needs another deep tomorrow. First time keeper so.. thank you for the knowledge.
Good luck on your journey as a beekeeper. Fun!
As an American Beekeeper the big question is cost as that device looks expensive and it looks like the bee's would propolis that thing shut in a few weeks so what's the cleanup maintenance time per unit. We are all mostly using oxcilic acid vaporizer's for control which is pretty quick and cheap at scale. I've also had decent success with thymol style treatments but the weather has to corporate and its become pricey over the years.
Hvala za video poučan i koristan, bravo👍
This is my shout-out for today :) Thank you for keeping us all up to speed on new treatments and hive technology! :)
Thanks Fred. Trying my best. Do you see it working on your apiary?
@@InsideTheHiveTV I tried to find this at the conference and failed. It was great visiting with you there!
@@FrederickDunn they didn’t come. Israel is dealing with too much right now. Unfortunately.
thanks for your efforts to keep the bees alive...
Always good stuff. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Thanks, as always, for the info
Any time!
Looks promising. Thanks for the information.
No problem 👍
Wow! Im a small beekeeper, and i would love to see this product vome to fruition . The data and idea looks very promising.
Fingers crossed!
So nice that the announcer points out how profit is the driving force of everything.
Thanks for the great info and looking forward to seeing if this truly is a viable option for most beeks.
Fingers crossed!
I would love to put my hives in this trial. We really need something that will control the mites. Sounds promising.
Thank You
You're welcome
Very interesting.. I also recently read about the positive impacts of Sunflower pollen on mites and overall hive health. I would love a natural solution vs chemical. If someone can isolate what is working with the sunflower pollen and then use this product as a delivery tool, we could have a great outcome!
Very likely not. Cancer is something very serious with multiple causes. Each case should be taking cared individualy.
I’m not sure what the relevance of your reply is to my comment as I was not referring to cancer of any kind.
Try the Hygienic Italians queens from Wildflower Meadows Apiary out of California. I routinely have a 30% winter loss rate with them but I don't use any mite treatment methods whatsoever.
Very interesting and looks promising. A definite win If they can offer it a good cost otherwise only a select few will be able to benefit.
I agree. Please let them know that. It is important companies make their homework right before pricing.
Well lets try to figure it out. There is already broodminder which is actually as barebones as it can be; battery, chip with BLE, sensors. Raw cost of those components is probably 10-20$ depending on specific parts, and is sold as a product for ~40$ .
ToBe device probably has all of that too in addition to bigger battery, small solar panel, battery charging system, delivery mechanism for liquids (mini peristaltic pump maybe?) heater to vaporize the liquid and the enclosure itself which does not look simple. (maybe even a small fan)
I would be surprised if its under 100$.
As an automatic regular applicator of oxalic acid, I see a future. Otherwise, I hear of too much resistance to amitraz.
Now is the time to suggest modifications to the company.
How does this treatment affect the honey? And how does it affect the life span of the bee and the over all health? Can a bee keeper still be considered organic and harmal chemical free? These are the big questions. Just getting rid of the mites is simply not enough. Thank you for sharing this video. Please keep us updated.
Great questions. I think the company will read all of this comments.
I guess you would still be allowed to apply treatment with this device only when honey supers are off.
Thanks for the info. I'm in Australia, things don't looks good... Hopefully we can figure this out :)
Sorry to hear that. Varroa is a big problem. Very sad they got there.
This is incredably interesting! I would love to try this and have reached out to the president of the Beekeepers Association that i'm a part of.
Ask the company. Now is the time. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the useful information. A field trial in the US and/or Canada would be the next logical step. The question no answered in the video is whether or not the device can use oxalic or formic or other treatments. In our area mites are showing growing resistance to Amitraz, and anyone using fluvalinate or coumophos is wasting their money. One other hurdle to overcome: at least in Canada the use of these chemicals and treatments is regulated by the METHOD of distribution; ie, strips or in the case of oxalic acid, drench or sublimation. So any effort to introduce a new delivery system needs support and the nod from the government.
Great points. I believe the team is working with regulatory agencies to these matters. Regardig resistance please remember that using the respiratory system with this method, not contact. There is a chance the reistant mites might be affected using thsi new route of delivery. Fingers crossed.
This device would be a great upgrade in hives management! We treat our hives 4 times a year, varro mites is the most expensive problem of beekeeping. All year worry about % of infestation and what treatment to use, when use...
I like the idea and if it could be used sucessfully using oxalic acid by vaporising in conjunction with oxalic strips which are used in New Zealand successfully that would be great.
👍Interesting. Thank you.💝
Glad you enjoyed it
I no longer keep bees but I do help some friends with their hives, getting started and working them. If these things work they would be a great addition to the beekeepers tool box. Anything that uses less chemicals in the hive would be a good thing.
Absolutely!
Flexibility will be key!! It must be able to deliver variations in treatment chems to prevent resistance from developing. I'm optimistic but wonder if the hobbyist will be able to afford it.
Hobbiest can always afford more, it’s the guy with 500,100o hives that is price sensitive
I Love to see technology help with modern day problems. I think that for a commercial application the cost may be prohibitive, but I am sure there are ways to be able to mitigate that for some... I do see the backyard beekeeper with 5 or six hives possibly the group to get a huge benefit from this. Bees are usually not the primary focus in their life and so processes are not as rigid and punctual. Having a process that can monitor things continuously would be worth a few extra $ for someone like me where I really only get to work my hives on weekends.
As with what everyone has stated, interesting and looks promising. More field tests are definitely in order in different regions and even better once the compounds and chemicals are expanded. If and when amitraz resistance is eventually met, it will have to deliver the next latest and greatest chemical or compound or the investment is wasted. Obviously the developer knows that, but looking forward to hearing more about this device. Thanks for sharing.
Amitraz is already non effective on mites in my area. But I do like the system. A lot of promise
Mike the system can be flexible and the beekeeper might be able to use whatever combination of chemical they want.
@@InsideTheHiveTV well, it’s quite the innovation Humberto and I do truly look forward to hearing about more field trials.
This real does have promise. Will it be affordable for the hobbyist is the question?
I like the device but amitraz will never enter into my hives. Honestly, since caging queens and summer brood breaks varroa is not a problem anymore. Cage them, put oxalic-glycerin and go on a 25 days holiday. Like my old man said.. give me a brood break and I'll clean your varroa with lemonade
I would sure love to have a sample of that machine to try on my hives
It doesn't hurt to ask. :)
This looks very promising Is the treatment consist of small dosing vapors of oxalic acid done with a timed device?
My brother and I usually start out with two hives each year, and sometimes end up with four. We’re in a cold climate (northern Minnesota) and haven’t been very successful overwintering. I would be interested in trying this in one of our hives.
Your late on mite treatment or are trying to winter Italians. 1% infestation in august is a dead colony by October
Pfft. I don't treat but am raising new colonies each year. About 1/3 die over the winter. It is sustainable here in East Central Illinois
It's the stuff dreams are made of!🐝
Hello Sir I am from Pakistan varroa mites are one of the highlighted problem throughout the country the beekeepers usually use formic acid and apistan strips after several years of successfull results the mites are resisting so they are using the rosemary oil and other oinments to combat the mites.
Is it working good? Any other information to share with us?
Hello we hope all the best for bees ,from Romania😊
All the best for you too!
Its beena while since I studied to keep bees but the general concensus was to take the honey and then in winter before the ivy flowered give them thymolated fondant blocks. Various recipes. The ivy honey was too hard for them to make use of when at very low temps. The thymol repelled mites. This was the standard between commercial bee keepers. Like i said its bee a few years.
I wonder if a strip with oregano oil on it would keep mites and parasite away. I use it in my farm animals water. Works well and effective. Or grow oregano around the hives.
rise temp in hive over 35.5°C, max 47 for 2.5 hours. repeat next day until mites gone. repeat before winter repeat in the spring. (not my idea, you can easily buy thermosolar hive for cure but I'm into diy bc I'm very poor)
Yikes, if anything survives, right? Try Thymol (Listerine). Listerine costs 4 bucks a bottle.
Great great great work. But that poor mite
Very interesting, this product looks promising. would love to see a product that is natural.
Let them know that. This company is willing to hear costumers.
What about respiratory problems to honey bees from using a different dosing application process based on inhalation? Just like using gas can have a greater impact on Varroa mites from touch-based applications, it could also have a greater negative impact on honey bees.
It comes down to price and the availability of the chemicals
How did it come to another country by shipping or airplane
When will this product be available?
Any ideas on the price of this per hive ? Think that’s the main thing people would like to know it looks good and I would say modern tech has a huge place in bee keeping in the future
I think we will end up going back to basics, and leave the tech behind. We catch every swarm and that is what introduces the problem. There are no wild hives left. We don't give anything back to nature for repair and replace. The problem is on the rise due to tech. The problem is in modern beekeeping methods.
If we don't let some of our hives swarm, we will have nothing but African in nature, and that ain't natural.The Africans will wipe out what is left from our tech.
what is the cost of the unit, and those replaceable cartridges, can they be refilled by beekeeper? if not how much for each new cartridge? thank u.
I don't have those details. Please ask the company and tell them what do you want.
I run a new test hive that is sealed. What would be nice is to be able to place the spray unit inside the hive on the floor, then a wire that can be extended outside the hive with the solar and battery electronics and attach those to the hive housing outside. Under the current design I would not be able to place it inside and center of my hive.
Ask the company about your concerns.
Not reallly sure how this device is better in spreading amitraz than amitraz strips because it only releases the chemical locally. Do beekeepers buy one device per hive? And does this device also work with oxalic acid sublimation or OA in glycerol, which are two treatments that would really benefit with low dose and slow release.
did you see fred dunns interview, w studied mite loads on emerged drones,predominantly before the mite population spikes in fall when drones fade the mites switch more to workers n nurses,
Not yeat, but I know the study. Zac will come to the show when I finish the video about the study..
It’s looks like a clean product without messing around and wearing gas mask etc
I didn't think about that part.
I would like to see trails done in the U.S. and the different climates in North America. Also being able to us other chemicals such as oxalic acid.
Me too.
There was talk of Varona resistant honey bee strains. Apparently they have not been effective enough to eliminate the need for other solutions?
Yep. These have some level of resistance but I didnt see anything very effective yet. Fingers crossed.
Really hope they integrate 3rd person, so much better for people with motion sickness
The treatments in Canada would be interesting as well.
And not ontario i mean alta sask and man where the weather is a controlling factor in beekeeping .
April to oct is our season
What is the name of the device and where can it be purchased
Interesting device. I'm still new but is there a reason they didn't test it with OA?
I don't know the reason why they start with Amitraz. It might be because of commercial beekeepers I would guess.
@@InsideTheHiveTV I also think that Amitraz is something familiar with many pollinators. The big issue is that in my state amitraz no longer is effective.
For OA you need a lot of energy, to vaporize, as well as a very unic design, so it is effective.
I saw a video where a person put a swifter cloth on the entry to a beehive. It removed the mites and she replaced it daily.
Ju lutem me prektheni ne gjuhen shqipe
Question: I am in Virginia and was told when setting up a bee box to put it in full sun because they like the heat but other beekeepers say keep the beehive in a shady place and/or sheltered in the winter. What’s your best advice for placement - full sun or half-shade?
Open shade. Heat is stressful. You have more beetles in shade tho. Bees in the wild build in the shade.
Good question. Bees can termoregulate themselves if they have a goos hive isolating them form the external enviroment. The key os to have good isolation and let the bees take care fo the rest. Bad isolation in the sun or in the shade can be problematic.
On Canada we put our yards usually in old farm yards .
With the hive in the open facing south
We require shelter from the north as our winds and cold weather is mostly north west .
Full sun high and dry with wind break !!
when or where can you buy this back yard guy ?
Today I saw this on a google news page for my phone. Then while I was researching it, came across your video.
Would love to know what their estimated costs would be...
Of course right now Israel is in a war , so I'm sure that complicates things.
My brother was supposed to go there this week on vacation... not sure if they are going to get refunded or not.
I hope this company survives.
The product is not available yet. I am concern as well about the company surviving this war. I will keep my followers updated about the company. Thanks for stopping by.
To use thius with Amitraz would be illegal in my country (New Zealand), but would it work or has it been trialed with oxalic acid?
Let's ask them.
@@InsideTheHiveTV OK do you have a link who I can ask?
My friend have you heard of Stratiolaelaps scimitus mites for killing varroa mites? And where to buy them?
No I haven't. Any interesting test made?
Humberto it would be a god send to all beekeepers. I do think it should be tested much more and at least some of it in the U.S. Also what will be the cost to obtain one. Commercial beekeepers would be more able to justify paying a higher cost than backyard beekeepers or small sideliners that don't have large volumes of honey to sell.
I don't know the prices yet. Thanks for watching.
How does all the treatments affect the honey people eat
Good question. For sure this device might help to reduce potential honey contamination.
Maybe bob binnie or Kaymon have any experience seeing they’re great influence in this world of beekeeping
H I'm wondering about a similar system using (vap) OA?
That is I like about the system. Enddless possibilities fro now and future.
I woulde like to know what the device costs, per hive, and where I can get some?
Me too. :)
How can I get this to test in my operation?
Not available yet. But if I get a bunch of them to test I wil let you know. Please sign up to my email list. Link in the description of the video or in my website.
it is my understanding that varroa mites are developing resistance to amitraz, not true?
Yes, by contact. Perhaps by the respiratory system things are not problematic. Let's see.
You're right. The delivery system using strips has shown a resistance to the chemical. I can no longer use it. It no longer kills mites.
Any rough estimates on the eventual cost of the device and treatments? At the end of the day, that's what is going to matter.
I believe it will be a service fee that include the treatment for the whole year. I don't know the anual cost per hive. Let's ask here. How much would be a deal break for you?
$40 per hive. Would be my maximum spend
20$ for a year for each hive
Speaking for a small apiary, how can we help test this device in Florida? DM.
Ask them. Thanks for watching.
How safe is the honey
Good question. I didnt see any test yet. I believe is safe because the reduced amout of chemical. But only testing will answer that properly.
where can I buy these ?
It is not available yet in the USA.
How much is it and how can we order it?
Not available yet.
I"m praying for something that works which isn't a chemical bath to the bees or my family.
Sounds very promising and from a common sense point of view seems to be a very practical device.
As an amateur bee keeper and ex farmer, have observed how many fellow bee keepers do not understand the basics of farming bees compared to mass produced livestock on farms where excellent hygiene by keeping living area clinically clean is absolutely essential, be it keeping plants weed free to stop transmission of disease or with keeping animals isolated from other animals.
Examples being, eliminating grass in cereal crops to stop ergot spores from releasing causing abortion in animals and madness and making sure badgers are innoculated or culled in areas where cattle are to stop the spread of TB.
The importance of segregation too from other species of insect and fellow robbing insects YEAR ROUND should never be underestimated. That means employing permenant measures to stop this along with better waterproof, insulated and ventilated hives Until these measures are adopted disease will continue to be a major problem.
Have they tried it here in the usa
I would be glad to test it for them
I am a new bee keeper would love to try it have a few friends who keep bees we would love to try it out here in alabama
I am sure the team will be interested to find people to test it.
Wydaje mi się że ta droga zabawka będzie pasowała do ula który nie potrzebuje maszyny do wirowania.
Another amitraz or fluvalinate product WILL NOT be approved in the U.S. Maybe your next video should be an interview with someone with DIRECT knowledge and experience with EPA pesticide registration. There is a reason for TacTic losing registration in the U.S. And that reason is why we will not get another registration for Amitraz.
That is a wonderful idea! I will work on that! Thanks
Can I buy this in the usa
Not yet. It need to be approved first.
I think it's a game changer
I think it can help too
It is on the market yet? Or just try to invent it?
How much does it cost?
I don't know
Decades after the introduction of Varroa people are still foolishly chasing a solution through chemical treatments. If that was actually a viable solution we wouldn't be seeing the atrocious number of hives lost overwinter every year. Besides, decades of breeding for mite resistance has effectively muted the harm caused by Varroa on colonies; my apiary of Hygienic Italians has an incredibly small mite load despite not taking any measures to "treat" them.
And yet, beekeepers and researchers alike are pathologically ignoring the effects of systemic pesticides(Neonicotinoids) on pollinators. This class of pesticides was banned by the E.U. for good reason; it makes every part of the plant toxic including nectar and pollen.
Why the music in the background while talking? the facts should be enough. thanx 4 sharing
Australia is killing any hive with these and every hive in 5kms of that hive. And nobody can have a hive in that area for three years.
Watch beekeeper use food grade Demetrius earth to their open feed just like we do with chickens for their mite problem. Cheaper than other way. Still do oa. Vape
That doesn't seem like it would be a very cost-efficient way to do it, especially if you have a hundred or more hives. The pods or replacements for it won't be cheep uses extra plastic and need one for every hive.
Let's wait for the price to evaluate.
This is good news .The variable mite unchecked is putting some bee keepers out of bissines. Without the honey bees we are in the stone age
Kelly Carpenter.
Did anyone hear about the OREGANO OIL VAPE? inside the hive 100%narural
cool delivery system, but chems are bad, make a smoke system cycling eucalyptus and lavender both must be fresh in with the wood shavings.