팀미션이니까 팀을 위한 방향으로 가자는 총대매고 말하는 지웅이도 동의하고 어려운 상황을 이끌어가야하는 한빈이도 자기가 해 온 파트를 갑자기 바꿔야하는 매튜의 당황스러움도 다 이해되는 상황임. 욕하지 말구 세마넴팀 서로서로 잘 품어 줍시다 ㅠ 무대에 대한 간절함은 다 똑같잖아요ㅠㅠ
승언군은 멘탈이 강해보여요. 지금 시기쯤되면 내가 더 돋보일수있을만한 욕심을 낼때일텐데도 그런 모습이 보이지않더라구요. 자존감이 높은듯해보이는데 그걸 표내지도 않구요. 원픽은 한빈군이지만 승언군도 같이 투표하고있어요. 꼭 데뷔에 성공해서 노래하며 행복한모습 많이 보고싶네요.
All the drama aside, I truly appreciate Kim Jiwoong for being able to point out what Sung Hanbin wasn't able to. Him, being able to see the bigger picture and being able to calmly discuss it with them was truly remarkable. You can see how he is able to use all the previous experiences he had from being an Actor and from being in previous idol groups. He really is a great leader. No wonder Matthew keeps looking up to him, and of course to Sung Hanbin. FIGHTING Team! Let's Go to Number 1!
Both Ji woong and Hanbin were harsher than they needed to be. These are his friends esp Hanbin and you can bet Matthew would not have treated Hanbin like that if the roles were reversed. They both were in the get over it for the good of the team. Maybe a little comforting and understanding would have been better not letting him sit all alone crying. If Seungeon is the best vocalist on the team maybe he should have been main vocal but that would have meant Hanbin give up his position, for the good of the team. So that didn’t happen wonder why?
@@rhyker9597 I got your point, truly. Not everything was shown though on what happened so we couldn't really tell. At that moment when Matthew left, I myself would let him be alone for some time. What happened after for sure they did comfort him. Realistically speaking it's impossible that they didn't. let's not be naive and think that what the media showed us is all there is to it. Second. Like what Hanbin mentioned, the main and vocal 1 parts were too ordinary. Jiwoong mentioned that the vocal2 part needs more character which they believe Matthew would be able to pull off perfectly. As you would see in the final song. I wouldn't be able to imagine Seungeon or Hanbin doing that part. The character for that part is just to specific. Yes, its sad because he only got few lines. I believe that's where all these frustrations are coming from from all of us stanning for Matthew. But honestly, before knowing there was this drama and I was just watching the dance practice, all I could hear and see is either Mathew and Seungeon. I thought both of them got the Vocal 1 and Main parts respectively. I do still feel bad seeing him cry as I have mentioned in my other comments. I just couldn't see him cry because he's so kind hearted. And you're right, he might not do to Hanbin what they have done to him but when making a performance you have to play your parts regardless. This maybe a competition but this is a competition to form the next boyband not the next soloist so we fans need to put that in mind. Let's not trust so much what these editings are showing us. Not everything is real in show business especially the negative dramas.
@@rhyker9597 honestly jiwoong and hanbin has more patience than I, I am a very get to the point person and i’ve been told my words hurt peoples feelings. I think them being friends added to how “harsh” they are, even though i’d have to disagree i don’t think they were harsh at all they were very neutral throughout the entire convo, but i know me being close to someone entails that i know them better as a person and therefore i’m more comfortable with being harsh. I don’t know about you but with strangers i’m always more mellowed out compared to friends as i’m scared to accidentally offend them in some way. And i don’t know if you just dislike hanbin but the way you worded your last sentence was very vindictive and demeaning like… and if you watched the ep than you’d know that the reason seungeon didn’t take the main vocal was that the main vocal also had important dance moments and seungeon himself said that hanbin was fit for it. And let’s not act like both matthew and seungeon wasn’t struggling with their parts. Matthew with the higher register and seungeon with a lower one, it really would’ve been for the better of the team if they switched. And no, switching Hanbin and Seungeon wouldn’t have been for the better of the team considering hanbin is doing just fine with his part (from what we’ve seen) and like i said before the main vocal also has a lot of important dance moments and it’s undeniable that hanbin has star quality and will shine and make the whole team look better, this is not even counting them having to learn each others parts and relearn the formation, so no it wouldn’t be “for the good of the team” if they switched now i just realized i came off very passive aggressively, just know i’m not trying to come off as that lmao 😭😭
@@rhyker9597 in my opinion it was no ones fault, ji woong was right at the time when he said “sub vocal 2 has more attitude” and that he thinks sub vocal 2 specialises matthews presence, either way if matthew knew he would just be a psserby and that he wouldnt stand out saying he couldn’t do the adlibs. Why choose sub vocal 1? Nevertheless it was right to leave matthew alone for him to rethink because he was crying, he needed comfort but he also said that someone who thought his friend was is now a completely different person which parts with jiwoong and hanbin specifically. that part wasnt shown in this episode so it was also good to give him space, no one was harsh. In fact matthew didnt have alot of lines but the lines he had were still meaningful like the “come here part” which stole everyones heart, jiwoong comforted matthew anyways so i dont really see the problem.
이해되는데 파트 이미 정해진 상태였고 갑자기 바꿨으면 좋겠다 그러면 바로 네 알겠어요 이렇게 될까? 현실적으로 방송으로 봤을 때는 이기적이게 느껴질지 몰라도 현실적으로 저렇게 반응하는 게 당연한 거 같은데 서보1 파트에 영어도 많아서 본인 엄마한테 보여주고 싶었던 것도 있을거고 사실 나 같으면 저 상황일때 어쩌면 더 과하게 반응했을 거 같기도 함 몰카 얘기도 보플에서 몰카한 적도 많고 특히 세마넴은 배정 때 상위권 애들 몰카도 했었음 갑자기 저러면 진지하게 안 받아들여질수도 있지
Jiwoong was brave to speak his mind. I feel like if he hadn't said anything then there wouldn't have been a change. Seungeon being sub vocal 1 improves the quality of the performance. Of course Matthew would've done great too, but I feel like the other part suits him best. I trust the members' judgement and Matthew's final decision
Yeah, he was brave, but didn't Matthew asked earlier if Seung Eon wanted the part of sub vocal 1? Literally, Seung Eon, said 'no' and then they rearrange the parts when they have less time to practice and try to do it perfect. So I think it's justified that Matthew is upset about this matter. They should have try to showcase the vocals first in order to select the correct parts to each member.
@@lett_snow seung eon let himself do left over part, he didn’t want take any member actual part. But we all know that the song suit him a lot. And i guess mattew just afraid that he will never seen if just take vocal 2 :)
@Qram Yes, I agree. But during the conversation, both Hanbin and Seungeon admitted their mistake. That's good, at least. In the end, what matters most is that all the members came to an agreement, and it seems like they pulled off the performance! On Twitter, there were many people who attended the recording saying that Say My Name was one of the stages that got the most cheers
Dear star creators, i begged you guys please at least see pov from matthew dont directly just hate and send hate comment. if you still thinks matt is egoistic and have bad behavior than what can seokryudan do to changes your pov? nothing. no one can force others opinions and thought. but plase at least see and imagine what will you do and feel if you guys at matt positions. thankyou
I think the whole situation is normal and part of the process. Some things that Hanbin said to Matthew wasn’t very nice, but it’s fine ‘cause their good friends. It doesn’t matter what part Matthew gets he’ll still shine. But I totally get why he was so hurt and it wasn’t immature or wrong. His feelings were valid and Hanbin & Jiwoon had a point and wanted what they thought were right for the team. It’ll just be something they can look back on as a learning experience.
Both sides are totally understandable. Matthew has every right to be sad, if we were in his shoes, we would feel the same way! And Jiwoong and Hanbin are doing it for the team, someone as brave as Jiwoong is needed in a team! I am so happy people in this comment section are so understanding.
yah yah but there def room for improvement for the leadership of that team. the way they positioned it to matthew was not right. but again its def hard to be the bringer of bad news. they should have honestly done a full vocal check before deciding on final positions. cuz no one likes it when people go back on their decisions.
and like jiwoong wouldn't have needed to say anything if hanbin said it first, except hanbin just hopped on jiwoong's wagon, which made matthew feel targeted.
also think that jiwoong has better leadership tbh. he seems to have a higher emotional intelligence . so although hanbin is more skilled than jiwoong. jiwoong has better people skills kinda like jongwoo and dayeon. jongwoo is like the dayeon for this season haha
@@julianfung9059 well, i would say that there is more difficult for Hanbin since there is a precedent relationship with Matthew, so maybe that's why he was more concious. Because from what I saw in the precedent episodes he seems to pick up others emotions and help, I just think he isn't much confrontational, which sometimes is needed
한빈이도 이해되고 지웅이도 이해되고 매튜가 이 파트를 꼭 하고싶은 이유도 너무 개인적인 이유여서 이기적이란 생각이 들지만 이해는 된다 ㅠㅠ 근데 팀을 위한거라면 서로서로 양보해야하는거지 무엇보다도 승언이가 서브보컬1 무조건 해야했다는건 누가들어도 인정할만하지않나 *나중에 보니 석매튜엄마 한국인이던데 어케된거임?
전날에 이미 서브1으로 확정 받았음. 승언이한테도 물어보고 팀의 동의 받고 맡은 서브1임. 그래서 레슨 4시간전에 갑자기 변경을 하는건 충분히 당황할만한 일이고 슬퍼하고 아쉬워하는 마음은 이해가 됨. 근데 매튜원픽인 내가 봐도 서브1은 승언이가 더 잘 어울리고 서브2가 더 잘 어울리는건 사실이라 지웅한빈의 의견이 맞다고 생각함 (하지만 전날에 다 불러보지않고 결정한거는 분명히 팀원의 책임이 맞음)
Matthew was not greedy, he was just hurt. He badly wanted that position for his mother. But Seung eon still suited subvocal 1 more and Matthew suited sub vocal 2 more. Let's just be happy since they got the parts that they suit the most. Pls vote for both of them and don't let Matthew be Yurina 2.0 pls 😢 And Seung Eon must debut too!!!
Matthew is in my 3 pick too and I understand that he feels disappointed but I wish he would not say it outright coz I mean mnet is just waiting to evil edit g trainees. But I also felt that having the reason of not changing parts just being for his mom is a bit too personal since it's a survival show and the focus should be on the team instead since they all are depending on the performance to make it. Just doing it for his mom makes it a bit selfish. Sheesh idk if I'm falling for meets edits now, anyways I hope no hate is directed to any of them.
@@hikarisky6641 I can understand Matthew’s point of view and I bet Mnet edited it to make it seem worser then it was. Matthew and Sung Hanbin are also friend anyways. Luckily most people knows of Mnet’s famous evil edits and people fall for them less.
The way they edited the shot of them having a huddle before going up on stage and making it look like Matthew was excluded was so gross of mnet. I hate them😂
I saw a lot of people hating on the 3 of them on the live comments but literally what do they expect, a team to be perfect and not have any conflicts? Of course Matthew was going to be upset since it happened last moment and he really wanted to have vocal 1 because of his mom and for Hanbin and Jiwoong they did nothing wrong, they saw what was best for the team and tried to fix it. A team will have conflicts trough the way, its normal, so hating on them is just plain dumb since nothing controversial happened. At the end of the day there were probably no hard feelings, Just keep voting for them and don’t drop the 3 for this little situation that was probably made to seem worse by mnet.
People say they want kpop idols to be human, to act “natural” but when kpop idols do have a conflict, when kpop idols feel a little hurt when they don’t get the part they want, they get hate because of it. When its completely normal and okay, and in fact sometimes even make the idols themselves feel closer to one another. I know mnet often overdramatic things but still
THIS. Finally someone articulate this without malicious intent or showing a negative narrative against another trainee. The situations sucks but you have to understand form everyone’s point of view. No one was in the wrong and this is not a church, it’s a survival show. We’re here to debut idol not saints
tbh nobody can be blamed for this. we know jiwoong and shanbin have to do this for the team and Mathew wanted the part and its totally understandable (this is so sad I cried when he revealed the reason behind it). And we all know mnet is gonna evil edit them. please acknowledge the situation and vote wisely we don't wanna lose a trainee over an evil edit:(
Tbh the mom thing sound more like an excuse than a reason. The reason why he wanted vocal 1 is cause like he said, he wanted to stand out and vocal 2 didn’t have much lines which will make him look like a “passerby”. He literally has a solid fan base and is ranked so high already, what is there to stand out. Seungeon who is on the verge of getting eliminated wasn’t even thinking about himself and was so selfless… meanwhile Matthew here being greedy. I’m sorry but …
Not Msnake trying to break up THE friendship between Matthew and Hanbin. Luckily they’ve showed many times how much they cherish each other so viewers won’t be so easily fooled. With their kind of relationship, they’ll be able to work it out eventually!
연습시간이 짧은데 갑자기 전부터 정해져 있던 파트를 바꾼다고 해서 절대 힘들었을 것 같다.게다가 서브보컬1을 꼭 하고 싶은 이유를 듣고 정말 눈물이 났다.너무 고생했어.이만큼 서브보컬1을 고집하는 건 메튜가 퍼포먼스에 정말 진지하기 때문인 것 같다.정말 메튜의 그런 점이 너무 좋아
To be honest, the mom thing sounds more like an excuse than a reason. He literally said that he wanted to stand out more cause vocal 2 doesn’t even stand out. I’m pretty sure his mom can understand some Korean, even his sister spoke Korean on TikTok. But regardless of that it’s selfish of him to think about himself and not his TEAM (Seungeon is vocally better for the song). His rank is already so high, and has a solid fan base, why can’t he just “willingly” give Seungeon (who is on the verge of getting eliminated) the part, instead of making Hanbin, Jiwoong and Seungeon look like the bad ones. Matthew is just greedy, I’m sorry
@@XYZ-cp2mh An excuse? Where do you know that? Have you ever met Matthew's mother?It's okay to be greedy. That's how much Matthew want to debut.But Matthew eventually changed his part and completed the performance even though he didn't have time, and I just saying he's really proud.
I was very surprised by the comment section.. the comments were all very positive! 😊 thank you for being so mature and not hating on Shanbin and Jiwoong!!... Shanbin and Jiwoong just want the best for their team... I know it's very painful for Matthew ... but he is really suitable to be Sub vocal 2.. his voice and tone are perfect for that! Fighting! Jiwoong,Yujin,Shanbin,Matthew,seung eon!! Btw... I'm really pissed because I have to wait another week for Say my name and Over me to perform -_-💢
The way they tried to do this evil-editing despite us knowing how strong of a friendship there is between jiwoong, matthew and hanbin What more AFTER the release of the dance practice of SMN as well where they were all happily dancing and enjoying themselves And we can clearly see who got which part too, it definitely looked like they rearranged it to fit each member the best and they're happy with it It's so fkin dirty really but it's mnet so what's new, they will purposely create conflict out of thin air for the sake of drama
Of course people in this group don’t like Matthew from heart 😅he is so annoying and dare said his mother can’t understand Korean which is TOTALLY FALSE!!!
@@selina7318 I meant in general, they would purposely create drama out of nowhere through editing if they need to for the sake of creating some kind of tension In this case, yes there was actual conflict and it definitely got solved after that, but they built it up in such a way and then left it at a cliffhanger at its peak just to get people talking and spreading assumptions If this was a kdrama, sure but considering how I've already seen people jumping to conclusions and sending hate to certain members, mnet got what they wanted
If you watch their dance practice video, you can cleary see that they redistributed Sub vocal1 and Sub vocal2 lines to fit both Seungeon and Matthew's voice, this means that Matthew indeed put the team first, and all of them actually thought of a better way to arrange the song. Don't let the edits control your votes!!!
But when I watched the whole episode. I can clearly understand where Matthew's attitude is coming from. Imagine, they know that you really wanted that part and they said yes to it, then later on they said someone suits it better. Something similar happened to me in the past, it really affects my self-esteem and it feels like they don't trust me on that matter. If I were Matthew, I would be upset too, and will cry alone for a while. Fortunately, Matthew set a side his selfish thoughts and followed what most of his team wanted. FIGHTING MATTHEW! ❤
When Matthew said this "I'm like just a person passing by", this breaks my heart a lot. Matthew ya, you are not, you are not, never ever like that. You have us, star creators, and SEOKRYUDANS who love you so much. I am just afraid that Matthew will lose his confidence. Matthew ya, you are like sunshine which shines so brightly upon the sky. You are my sunshine and I only want you to know that you have us. We will always proud of you whichever you have done and tried so hard for. We will appreciate your hardwork which you have already shown so far. We believe you. My baby.. Love you so much.
First, mnet didn't even bother contacting Matthew's mom to go to the surprise guerilla showcase, when performing in front of his mom is the ONE thing he wishes to do, and now they're dragging him through classic evil editing. I've seen a few comments on tiktok about how this is showing Matthew's "true character" and so they stopped voting for him but seriously? are we really going to fall for mnets tricks again? I don't want to think that his rank dropped but I really hope we can all continue to vote for him because I'm sure his one-pick fanbase was and still is going pretty strong. Let's hang in there seokryudans, fighting Matthew!!! And I hope no one sends hate to Hanbin and Jiwoong, they're just trying to do what's best for the team :)
My heart aches for Matthew . He is so precious and Mnet trying to drag him in the dirt with all the evil edits makes my blood boil ! Please support Matthew 😭 he’s really talented and I promise he won’t let any group down if the debuts .
There's a lot of talented in g group , they are really famous even in Korea. like Zhang hao , Ricky , Matthew etch. I think they don't want their pick to overwhelm by these foreigners that's why they want to evil edit them
Jiwoong really showed his mature and professional side here. I've seen a couple people comment that he should have brought it up earlier, but if I put myself in his shoes, here is how I see it; it is not his part, so he trusts Seungeon and Matthew to choose what is best. They get their parts and practice, they both have the opportunity to prove that they suit their parts. When it becomes clear that they would be better suited to eachothers' parts he doesn't say anything immediately, thus giving them another opportunity to bring it up themselves. Since they do not, it would then be the leader who should say something. Jiwoong sees how that may be hard for Hanbin and why he may hesitate due to his friendship with Matthew and knowing how much Matthew wants the part and would be upset to change it. Only then does Jiwoong bring it up himself, after everyone else has had the chance to either do really well in their parts or bring up a switch. He is not overstepping or acting hastily, but in the end he does what is best for the team even if it is uncomfortable. I don't think anyone in this situation is wrong for their feelings or actions. Honestly it is a very minor conflict, they are still just as close and put on a great performance together!
@@momoyromas9456 i agree in this case, knowing that mattbin is especially close and hanbin's role as a leader may affect their friendship. but i also thought about how more often than not i see jiwoong as a better advisor than a leader in this kind of setting. he's less outspoken compared, but he always steps in when it is needed. he's also someone that a leader could turn to when things get tough. every team needs someone like jiwoong. his role is precious. i'm reminded of how kpop groups don't have their oldest member as leader, and i think it's super helpful that way! (but of course, it also depends on the team dynamics)
Jiwoong is such a mature person, he was willing to bring up the hard topics regarding Matthew and seungeons role distribution, I really respect him for being able to do so. There needs to be someone to take up this role even tho it's hard. Love jiwoong for this❤
당연히 생길 수 있는 정도의 갈등이고 매튜가 끝까지 서브1 하겠다고 한 것도 아니고 연습 영상 보면 제일 표정 밝던데 매튜 욕 좀 그만해 연습 영상 보면 매튜가 승언이 엉덩이 툭 쳐서 승언이도 웃더라 세마넴 관계 망가뜨리는 건 엠넷이랑 악편에 속아 연습생들 욕하는 님들임
Guys.. don't misunderstanding with the scenes because it's just a normal situation in every team. Put yourself on Matthew POV like.. your team agree with their own part, and Matthew was happy because he really want the part badly, he thinks that his team believe he can do his part great, right? Who doesn't happy when your team trust for something you love? And suddenly they think you ain't suit for the part and suggest you to switch with the other part, like??? You guys have to trust me with this part before and now??? Why Just don't trust me, that I can do this part? Why don't give me time to show?? You guys agree previously, right??
This what Matthew feels. It's okay for being mad or disappointed, because it feels like his team betrays him for not believing him. It's really really normal for every team. Don't misunderstanding or mad and think Matthew selfish for thinking about himself only. No. This is normal to react like this when you feel your team treat you like this.
@@sheissohotshit 😭 i hope someone explains me too , like my one pick till now didn't get the position he wanted like every single time , forget killing part not even a sub vocal now ?? 🤧 We deserve explanation , we understand the voice of the other trainee was great but they didn't have to take away mattew's position 😫 we trust him with his position if he says he can do it he will , just bro why are they making them fight
This is NOT his personal growth program and Yoon Seungeon is obviously more suitable for this part. If you don't understand that Matthew lost the opportunity to show himself, have you thought about others who were far more excellent than Matthew but were eliminated due to the lack of exposure, they had ZERO chance from the beginning... Matthew's already gained exposure and privileges that are inconsistent with his strength, he enjoyed the privilege of pd pick and took away the rights of others in G Group as his data and rankings were all fake at the beginning.
@@emmakobiolka3459 we know, i vote for many trainees each day by many devices, the sad part was many 4 star trainees were eliminated in the first elimination itself , i am not compare mattew hyung with others saying he is great than so n so , i am just seeking explanation why dosent he prove his talent in front of others trainee when selecting the position (he need more confidence to get recognised) caz as you see his talent is great on stage , reciving 4star is not easy right .
@@emmakobiolka3459 not personal growth? Bro survival shows are to show one's personal growth in limited period of time understand basic concept of voting system after stage , btw do you think the 98 trainees who were there though they know they had least exposure would stay they could have left in the starting, trainees come to survival show for experience n personal growth, the eliminated trainees were saying the same thing " as long as we learn m improve a lil it's fine to get eliminated"
Matthew situation is understandable as he always never got part that he wants since KTL:(( it hurts to see… but i believe in him as whatever he did until now is always served the best he can do. I hope no one would fall into this evil edit, cause its normal to have misunderstood in discussion and what hanbin and jiwoong did for their overall team balance, it also understandable to show the best. I wish seokryudans and allindans never put blame to each other but lets supports and votes for both of them as we know they having the best friendship ever in this show❤️
and once again Jiwoong is showing is leadership. if it wasn’t for him, things could have been worse and the parts not properly assigned. he would be such a great and considerate leader for the future group, please keep voting for him!
@@chococlairedid i mention matthew? or that he was wrong? i’m talking about the situation in its big picture and just praising jiwoong cuz he had the gut to speak up. i think u misunderstood my words, but it’s okay!
Oh please Matthew having 3 lines instead of 1 is not going to make the team lose. It’s not like he was asking for main vocal or killing part or a solo. If they had let him do it do you think he would drag them down he has a higher rank than Jiwoong. If all is fair Seungeon should have been main vocal as the best singer but Hanbin wouldn’t let that happen😂
Matthew wanted that part because it was mostly in English and he wanted his mom to understand it 😭😭 I swear if people stopped voting for him because of this, I'll especially go in everyone's house and haunt them!!!! He is such a sweetheart, he deserves all the votes :(
dear seokryudan and other star creators, please imagine and feel what will you do if you are in matthew position. i dont asked you to love him but at least not to hate him. thankyou
We love Matthew not only because he is cute but also he is talented and can even be a all-rounder if he wants. He is receiving evil edits start from now so we MUST really focus on voting him properly. He's not safe until he enters top 9 in final so let's protect this ray of sunshine at all it costs. I will never forgive myself if matthew can't debut
매튜를 삐뚤게 보는 사람들은 다 조별과제 망했으면 좋겠다! 일주일넘게 연습해온던걸 바꾸라고 하면 속상한게 당연한거 아닌가?? 고집써서 파트 안바꾼것도 아니고 잘 해내서 방청 후기에도 칭찬 많았는데....암넷은 해결된 후도 보여줘야죠^^ 앙가드는 보여줬으면서 세마넴만 왜 이상하게 끝냄?
KIM JI WOONG shows that how strong headed he is... No matter what say my name team gonna rock it... Every member in say my name ..are precious...n don't stop to vote kim ji woong ..he must debut with high ranks ... ❤❤❤
Matthew ya, you can do whatever perfectly. Don't worry too much. We understand you want to do sub vocal 1 bc of your mom but don't worry your mom also love everythings what you do. You are the best matthew. We will support you to be debut. Let's debut Matthew.
Please don't stop voting Matthew. He said that he understand and know that Seungeon did well. He just need time. 😢 Maybe it's just hard to let go because he really want that part badly. No friendship was ruined. We all know how Jiwoong and Hanbin adore Matthew.
왜 욕하는지 이해가 안갔는데 우리지웅이 한빈이 입장도 이해가 가고 매튜도 이해가 가는 상황인데 결론은 이셋이 잘 지내고 있고 무엇보다 지웅이 매튜 넘 좋아한다는거... 그리고 바뀐 파트 승언이한테 너무 찰떡이고 매튜도 찰떡임 넘 귀여움 이 5명 다 착하고 잘하는 친구들이라 팬들끼리 싸워봐야 의미없다 그냥 이 5명 넘넘 잘하고 잘어울리고 다같이 데뷔했으면 좋겠당 ❤️❤️
Guys no fighting n no hate , they are best friends, ur hate comments will seprate them, But why does mattew is never given the place he went, killing part tho away he they are not letting him take sub vocal 1 like come on now. Lots of love , i wanna scream go give him a hug fast 😅
@@maurylorenocsalon1478 Just like what Seungeon said, Hanbin is a better performer. Although Seungeon is better vocally he is not confident with his dancing and won’t be able to lead the performance as well as Hanbin who is not only good at singing but also dancing. The main vocal for this song will be in the center a lot and he thinks that Hanbin would do a better job as he has stage presence and basicallly everything.
@@maurylorenocsalon1478 cause the killing part are just ‘iconic lines’ that will make them stand out. Killing part gets less/smaller but more impactful lines. But main vocal literally carry the whole performance in singing and dancing
@@maurylorenocsalon1478 Actually, if you watch the SMN line distribution, the Sub Vocal 1 has the MOST lines, even more than the main vocal. While the main vocal is mostly in the center. It makes sense to keep Hanbin in the MV position because he is the stronger dancer. While the SV had more singing lines which is the best position for Seungeon who is the stronger vocalist.
@@owowonn he wanted to take the sub vocal 1 part , he took it but after that jiwoong and hanbin thought that it sounded better with seungeon so they decided to give it to him , so Matthew was disappointed because he wanted that part
Isso acontece em todo time e é certo pensar no que seria melhor pro time como um todo! Jiwoong e Hanbin foram muito certos em levantar essa pauta, entendemos o sentimento do Matthew de não querer desistir da parte, mas realmente o melhor no momento seria trocar. Então não deixem de votar nos três por isso por que é algo normal durante a produção de uma música onde acontecem mudanças para o melhor vocal em cada parte
They could have been nicer about it especially Hanbin. Maybe not letting him go off and cry on his own. In the segment Matthew says it felt like they were ganging up on him. If my best friend did that to me I would be hurt. So if it was the best for the team they could have handled it better. What we were shown came off that Hanbin and Jiwoong were very cold and not understanding.
@@spinach004 one of them is his best friend who could have behaved a little more empathetically like Matthew probably would have if the roles were reversed . Also having 3 hours to practice before evaluation performance is not very nice to him and Seungeon when this decision could have and should have been made a week ago. I don’t know where you’ve been but he can sing about as well as Hanbin who kept the main vocal for the good of the team even though Seungeon sings better than both of them. I wonder why he did that 😂
@@rhyker9597 The reason why Hanbin didn't propose to change part a week ago is because he believed Matthew could practice well, but the fact is he can’t sing that well. Rather than being scolded by the teacher, it is better to adjust before class.
I really love Jiwoong leadership, and the Way he can handle the situation calmy even he is not in Leader position. He is proof to be leader Bepler❤️❤️❤️❤️
Plz keep voting for Matthew I don't want him to be 2nd yurina Korean fans please keep voting for him. He just want that part for her mother but still he nailed his part. Mnet is just trying to drag him down
어느 쪽이든 이해 됨 매튜입장에서는 서보1 잘 연습하고 있는데 갑자기 바꾸자하니, 당황스러운게 당연한거고, 본인도 서보2는 잘 보여줄 자신이 없다 요런 식으로 말하긴 했음 근데 또 지웅,한빈 입장에선 개인도 중요하지만 팀이니 팀을 위한 방향으로 가고싶었던거고 말야.. 한빈이가 리더가 처음이라서 아직까지 서툰건 어쩔 수 없겠지만, 파트를 불러보고서 잘 어울리고 소화 가능한 친구를 뽑았었다면 좋았을텐데 그냥 이거 하고싶은 사람? 이거는 누구가 잘 어울릴 것 같다, 나 하고싶다, 요런 얘기로만 했으니 이런 일이 일어난 거 같넹.. 물론 처음이니 어려운 상황 너무 이해됨!! 나도 첨엔 조에서 리더역할 맡을때도 너무 머리 아팠고 어려웠음. 그래도 막상 결과는 깔끔하게 잘 마무리했었음. 나같은 애도 마무리 잘 했는데 세마넴 팀도 좋은 결과,무대 보여줬을 거라 생각함!!
@@mhlib7569 While I think Hanbin right now really just admires and looks up to Jiwoong, Matthew looks at him like an older brother figure in this competition. Without honesty you can’t have respect and without respect you can’t have love. From all of the interactions that have been shown I would say there’s love there so I think it speaks volumes about Jiwoong as a leader. I really hope to see the three of them debut together I think they have amazing potential.
@@EvanDseven nah, but the way they went about it was wrong. Hanbin was a terrible leader. That should’ve been discussed. Matthew offered and even asked for their opinion (mainly seungeon, but as a leader he should’ve said something at that moment). To keep it 100, seungeon should’ve done the main vocal part and hanbin does sub vocal 2, if they redistributed the parts like they were supposed to.
I don't think there's anything wrong with everyone in this team. Mattew just wants to keep his own. he said seungeon suits his part because he can put a high notes. whereas Matthew could not. He cant does adlibs. He also wanted to sing a lot of english lyrics ( which is in vocal 1) for his mother in Canada. Very sweet right.. Mnet just over dramatic.
Sungeon does improvise and adding ad libs in any positon he's in to make the song better, not because he's particularly Sub Vocal 2 in this group. ex. The high note in Home was also his improvisation. And that's the reason the group voted him to stay in the group, because of his vocal. Besides, Matthew was having problem with some of the Sub Vocal1 notes. We understand Matthew's worry, but I'm glad he finally agreed to take Sub Vocal2. That part was literally made for him! Jiwoong was right. As seen in the dance practise video, It's basically the "cutest" part of the song and he owned it! I also think he stands out the most despite having less lyrics to sing.
Matthew is already falling so much in rank i don't get why mnet is doing this.. as matthew stan i feel so bad that he is losing his popularity.. please vote for him.. it's not just his personality but come on he killed love killa and kill this love stage.. he has this stage presence, good vocals, dance, personality.. let's vote for him and hanbin and jiwoong too ofcourse.. I really don't want matthew to lose
Matthew you got very small part in kill this love but still you got 1m views we Seokryudans love you and support you even if you get a big part or a small one We believe in you
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지웅이 진짜 섬세하다8_8 한빈이가 부정적인 말하기 어려우니까 지웅이가 먼저 얘기해주는 거 형같고 좋았음
정말.. 한빈이 계속 눈치보는 거 보이고 정 안되겠다 싶으니까 딱 말해주는거.. 바꿔서 정말 다행임..
팀미션이니까
팀을 위한 방향으로 가자는 총대매고 말하는 지웅이도
동의하고 어려운 상황을 이끌어가야하는 한빈이도
자기가 해 온 파트를 갑자기 바꿔야하는 매튜의 당황스러움도 다 이해되는 상황임.
욕하지 말구 세마넴팀 서로서로 잘 품어 줍시다 ㅠ
무대에 대한 간절함은 다 똑같잖아요ㅠㅠ
하 진짜 제발..저 한장면 때문에 꿈을 향하는 사람들한테 벽 세우고 날 세우는게 너무 무섭더라구요.. 결론적으로 파트도 바꿨고, 그냥 잘 품어줬으면 좋겠더라구용
근데 누가 나쁜 걸 떠나서 유승언이 걍 천사임
맞죠 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 승언이 너무 착해요
Yes🎉🎉
승언군은 멘탈이 강해보여요.
지금 시기쯤되면 내가 더 돋보일수있을만한 욕심을 낼때일텐데도 그런 모습이 보이지않더라구요.
자존감이 높은듯해보이는데 그걸 표내지도 않구요.
원픽은 한빈군이지만 승언군도 같이 투표하고있어요.
꼭 데뷔에 성공해서 노래하며 행복한모습 많이 보고싶네요.
심지어 누가 나쁘다 할 아이가 한명도 없다는거죠 이팀에선 ㅜㅜ 다들 천사에요ㅜ
진짜 유승언 천사😊 너무착해~
승언아 호감이 팍팍간다
이팀에 와줘서 진심으로 고맙다
넌 이팀에 빛이고 꼭 필요한 멤버야
형들에게 양보해준 마음들 잊지 않을꺼야
김지웅이 진짜 호감인게 저 상황에서 해야할 말 딱 하는게 멋있음.. 나중에 숙소에서 얘기한것도 그렇고
ㄹㅇ 김지웅이 진짜 맏형다운 성숙한 사람임
근데 사과를 할 일이었는지 모르겠음 지웅이가 왜 사과를 하지? 싶었음
근데 승언이는 진짜 대단하다 보컬에 자부심도 있는애가 메보도 넘기고 서브보컬도 넘길려고 하다니
기가 죽었을수도... 1345등이 있으니.. (갠적인 생각
@@주하-w6g 17위… 탈락 위기인 등수라 기 죽은거 너무 보여서 맘아팟음
He should be eliminated next ep
@@kpopislifeline4445이뇬이 도랐마
너무 착해 승언이
팀원들 마음 전부 다 이해됨ㅠㅡㅠ 애들 다 착해서 서로 생각하고 배려하는거 다 알잖아 팬들은ㅜㅜㅜㅜ 세마넴팀 화이팅이야 빨리 무대 보고싶다
All the drama aside, I truly appreciate Kim Jiwoong for being able to point out what Sung Hanbin wasn't able to. Him, being able to see the bigger picture and being able to calmly discuss it with them was truly remarkable. You can see how he is able to use all the previous experiences he had from being an Actor and from being in previous idol groups. He really is a great leader. No wonder Matthew keeps looking up to him, and of course to Sung Hanbin. FIGHTING Team! Let's Go to Number 1!
Both Ji woong and Hanbin were harsher than they needed to be. These are his friends esp Hanbin and you can bet Matthew would not have treated Hanbin like that if the roles were reversed. They both were in the get over it for the good of the team. Maybe a little comforting and understanding would have been better not letting him sit all alone crying. If Seungeon is the best vocalist on the team maybe he should have been main vocal but that would have meant Hanbin give up his position, for the good of the team. So that didn’t happen wonder why?
@@rhyker9597 I got your point, truly. Not everything was shown though on what happened so we couldn't really tell. At that moment when Matthew left, I myself would let him be alone for some time. What happened after for sure they did comfort him. Realistically speaking it's impossible that they didn't. let's not be naive and think that what the media showed us is all there is to it. Second. Like what Hanbin mentioned, the main and vocal 1 parts were too ordinary. Jiwoong mentioned that the vocal2 part needs more character which they believe Matthew would be able to pull off perfectly. As you would see in the final song. I wouldn't be able to imagine Seungeon or Hanbin doing that part. The character for that part is just to specific. Yes, its sad because he only got few lines. I believe that's where all these frustrations are coming from from all of us stanning for Matthew. But honestly, before knowing there was this drama and I was just watching the dance practice, all I could hear and see is either Mathew and Seungeon. I thought both of them got the Vocal 1 and Main parts respectively. I do still feel bad seeing him cry as I have mentioned in my other comments. I just couldn't see him cry because he's so kind hearted. And you're right, he might not do to Hanbin what they have done to him but when making a performance you have to play your parts regardless. This maybe a competition but this is a competition to form the next boyband not the next soloist so we fans need to put that in mind. Let's not trust so much what these editings are showing us. Not everything is real in show business especially the negative dramas.
@@rhyker9597 honestly jiwoong and hanbin has more patience than I, I am a very get to the point person and i’ve been told my words hurt peoples feelings. I think them being friends added to how “harsh” they are, even though i’d have to disagree i don’t think they were harsh at all they were very neutral throughout the entire convo, but i know me being close to someone entails that i know them better as a person and therefore i’m more comfortable with being harsh. I don’t know about you but with strangers i’m always more mellowed out compared to friends as i’m scared to accidentally offend them in some way.
And i don’t know if you just dislike hanbin but the way you worded your last sentence was very vindictive and demeaning like… and if you watched the ep than you’d know that the reason seungeon didn’t take the main vocal was that the main vocal also had important dance moments and seungeon himself said that hanbin was fit for it.
And let’s not act like both matthew and seungeon wasn’t struggling with their parts. Matthew with the higher register and seungeon with a lower one, it really would’ve been for the better of the team if they switched. And no, switching Hanbin and Seungeon wouldn’t have been for the better of the team considering hanbin is doing just fine with his part (from what we’ve seen) and like i said before the main vocal also has a lot of important dance moments and it’s undeniable that hanbin has star quality and will shine and make the whole team look better, this is not even counting them having to learn each others parts and relearn the formation, so no it wouldn’t be “for the good of the team” if they switched now
i just realized i came off very passive aggressively, just know i’m not trying to come off as that lmao 😭😭
@@rainerpavletic4814 jiwoong comforted matthew
@@rhyker9597 in my opinion it was no ones fault, ji woong was right at the time when he said “sub vocal 2 has more attitude” and that he thinks sub vocal 2 specialises matthews presence, either way if matthew knew he would just be a psserby and that he wouldnt stand out saying he couldn’t do the adlibs. Why choose sub vocal 1? Nevertheless it was right to leave matthew alone for him to rethink because he was crying, he needed comfort but he also said that someone who thought his friend was is now a completely different person which parts with jiwoong and hanbin specifically. that part wasnt shown in this episode so it was also good to give him space, no one was harsh. In fact matthew didnt have alot of lines but the lines he had were still meaningful like the “come here part” which stole everyones heart, jiwoong comforted matthew anyways so i dont really see the problem.
승언이 진짜.. 천사임 순위도 간당간당해서 생방송도 불확실한 상황에 저렇게 행동한다는게 대단함 ㅠㅠㅠㅠ 우리 승언이 투표 한번씩만 부탁드려요 🥺🙏🏻
승언이가 ㄹㅇ 천사네.. 제발 데뷔해 승언이
이해되는데
파트 이미 정해진 상태였고 갑자기 바꿨으면 좋겠다 그러면 바로 네 알겠어요 이렇게 될까? 현실적으로
방송으로 봤을 때는 이기적이게 느껴질지 몰라도 현실적으로 저렇게 반응하는 게 당연한 거 같은데 서보1 파트에 영어도 많아서 본인 엄마한테 보여주고 싶었던 것도 있을거고 사실 나 같으면 저 상황일때 어쩌면 더 과하게 반응했을 거 같기도 함 몰카 얘기도 보플에서 몰카한 적도 많고 특히 세마넴은 배정 때 상위권 애들 몰카도 했었음 갑자기 저러면 진지하게 안 받아들여질수도 있지
몰카 그거 왜 이렇게 진지하게 받는지 모르겠어요. 앙가르드 팀도 몰카 하고 했는데 유독 석매튜 발언만 심각하게 받아들여서
Jiwoong Hanbin and Mathew we love you❤
Jiwoong was brave to speak his mind. I feel like if he hadn't said anything then there wouldn't have been a change. Seungeon being sub vocal 1 improves the quality of the performance. Of course Matthew would've done great too, but I feel like the other part suits him best. I trust the members' judgement and Matthew's final decision
You mean seung eon ? I was like wait seunghwan in this team ?
Yeah, he was brave, but didn't Matthew asked earlier if Seung Eon wanted the part of sub vocal 1? Literally, Seung Eon, said 'no' and then they rearrange the parts when they have less time to practice and try to do it perfect. So I think it's justified that Matthew is upset about this matter. They should have try to showcase the vocals first in order to select the correct parts to each member.
@nana Lmaoo thanks for pointing that out. I commented on the En Garde video before this. My brain is stupid. I'll edit it now haha
@@lett_snow seung eon let himself do left over part, he didn’t want take any member actual part. But we all know that the song suit him a lot. And i guess mattew just afraid that he will never seen if just take vocal 2 :)
@Qram Yes, I agree. But during the conversation, both Hanbin and Seungeon admitted their mistake. That's good, at least. In the end, what matters most is that all the members came to an agreement, and it seems like they pulled off the performance! On Twitter, there were many people who attended the recording saying that Say My Name was one of the stages that got the most cheers
일단 매튜한테 파트 바꾸라고 한 시점이 늦었던 것도 맞고 매튜 입장에서는 트레이닝 4시간 전에 갑자기 바꾸라고 하니 당황스러울 수 밖에..한빈이 지웅이는 그럴 의도가 아니였겠지만 매튜는 벼랑끝에 선 기분이였을듯..😢 매튜 지웅 한빈이 다 이해가 간다..
It's so hurting in Matthew's part but we cannot blame Jiwoong and Hanbin.
Dear star creators, i begged you guys please at least see pov from matthew dont directly just hate and send hate comment. if you still thinks matt is egoistic and have bad behavior than what can seokryudan do to changes your pov? nothing. no one can force others opinions and thought. but plase at least see and imagine what will you do and feel if you guys at matt positions. thankyou
@@lullabymelody2001 agreed🥹
jiwoongiee😍
I think the whole situation is normal and part of the process. Some things that Hanbin said to Matthew wasn’t very nice, but it’s fine ‘cause their good friends. It doesn’t matter what part Matthew gets he’ll still shine. But I totally get why he was so hurt and it wasn’t immature or wrong. His feelings were valid and Hanbin & Jiwoon had a point and wanted what they thought were right for the team. It’ll just be something they can look back on as a learning experience.
at the end of each day, I will still vote and support Matthew because I believe that he deserve to be in the final top 9. ❤🫶🏻🫶🏻
Both sides are totally understandable. Matthew has every right to be sad, if we were in his shoes, we would feel the same way! And Jiwoong and Hanbin are doing it for the team, someone as brave as Jiwoong is needed in a team! I am so happy people in this comment section are so understanding.
As they should be, because what Jiwoong said is huge point, And it's for the sake of the team
yah yah but there def room for improvement for the leadership of that team. the way they positioned it to matthew was not right. but again its def hard to be the bringer of bad news. they should have honestly done a full vocal check before deciding on final positions. cuz no one likes it when people go back on their decisions.
and like jiwoong wouldn't have needed to say anything if hanbin said it first, except hanbin just hopped on jiwoong's wagon, which made matthew feel targeted.
also think that jiwoong has better leadership tbh. he seems to have a higher emotional intelligence . so although hanbin is more skilled than jiwoong. jiwoong has better people skills kinda like jongwoo and dayeon. jongwoo is like the dayeon for this season haha
@@julianfung9059 well, i would say that there is more difficult for Hanbin since there is a precedent relationship with Matthew, so maybe that's why he was more concious. Because from what I saw in the precedent episodes he seems to pick up others emotions and help, I just think he isn't much confrontational, which sometimes is needed
유승언이 훨 잘 어울림 잘 바꿨다
한빈이도 이해되고 지웅이도 이해되고 매튜가 이 파트를 꼭 하고싶은 이유도 너무 개인적인 이유여서 이기적이란 생각이 들지만 이해는 된다 ㅠㅠ 근데 팀을 위한거라면 서로서로 양보해야하는거지 무엇보다도 승언이가 서브보컬1 무조건 해야했다는건 누가들어도 인정할만하지않나
*나중에 보니 석매튜엄마 한국인이던데 어케된거임?
전날에 이미 서브1으로 확정 받았음. 승언이한테도 물어보고 팀의 동의 받고 맡은 서브1임. 그래서 레슨 4시간전에 갑자기 변경을 하는건 충분히 당황할만한 일이고 슬퍼하고 아쉬워하는 마음은 이해가 됨. 근데 매튜원픽인 내가 봐도 서브1은 승언이가 더 잘 어울리고 서브2가 더 잘 어울리는건 사실이라 지웅한빈의 의견이 맞다고 생각함 (하지만 전날에 다 불러보지않고 결정한거는 분명히 팀원의 책임이 맞음)
이거지
이거죠 진짜
진지하게 바꾼 게 훨 나음
그건 맞아요ㅎㅎ 근데 그 과정에서 상처만 남은게 슬플 뿐..ㅠㅠ처음부터 불러봤어야했어요😂😂
Guys, we know that the three of them love each other so don't forget to vote for Hanbin, Jiwoong and Matthew! Let's make the three debut
Yasssssss
But Seungeon 😭😭💓
승언 님 진짜 너무 착해요ㅠㅠ 이번에 팬 됐어요❤노래도 잘하고 목소리가 곡 전체 분위기랑도 잘 맞고 나중에 음원 나오면 다운해서 매일매일 듣고싶네요 😊
감사합니다 진짜😭❤️ 우리 승언이한테 4월 7일까지 꾸준히 투표해주시면 감사하겠습니당!!💖
@@그르륵칵칵TTT 네 빈이랑 같이 투표 하고 있어요 탑9에 꼭 필요한 메보는 바로 승언이죠
@@love_seoul 와씨 님 너무 사랑합니다ㅜㅜㅜ❤️ 성한빈 최애 유승언 차앤데 진짜 둘이 같이 뽑는분 못봤어유ㅜㅜㅜ 너무 감사합니다🫶🏻 님 나머지 한 명 뽑는 사람 누구에용?? 제가 투표해드릴께용!'
@@그르륵칵칵TTT님 정말 반가워요 저랑 취향이 똑같네요ㅋㅋ 3픽은 요즘 덕상하고 있는 이정현입니다 부탁드려요 고맙습니다 🙇
@@love_seoul 옹! 네엥 알겠습니당🫶🏻🥰
30분~1시간도 안되는 갈등가지고 2-3주째 우려먹는 엠넷 진짜 대단하다!!! 다 이해될만한 상황이고 후다닥 정리해서 파트 변경후에도 앵겨붙어 있는 애들가지고 이러고 싶나..
갈등편집 하고싶은데 애들이 순해서 똑같은 부분만 반복적으로 보여주는게 걍 웃김
Pls don't misunderstand jiwoong , he is only doing this for the team
マシュー急にパート変えた方がいいとか言われたらそりゃ悲しくなるよな。ここでマシュー叩くのはまじで違うぞ
Matthew was not greedy, he was just hurt. He badly wanted that position for his mother. But Seung eon still suited subvocal 1 more and Matthew suited sub vocal 2 more. Let's just be happy since they got the parts that they suit the most. Pls vote for both of them and don't let Matthew be Yurina 2.0 pls 😢 And Seung Eon must debut too!!!
Matthew is in my 3 pick too and I understand that he feels disappointed but I wish he would not say it outright coz I mean mnet is just waiting to evil edit g trainees.
But I also felt that having the reason of not changing parts just being for his mom is a bit too personal since it's a survival show and the focus should be on the team instead since they all are depending on the performance to make it.
Just doing it for his mom makes it a bit selfish.
Sheesh idk if I'm falling for meets edits now, anyways I hope no hate is directed to any of them.
@@hikarisky6641 I can understand Matthew’s point of view and I bet Mnet edited it to make it seem worser then it was. Matthew and Sung Hanbin are also friend anyways. Luckily most people knows of Mnet’s famous evil edits and people fall for them less.
@@vixxexo6855 Yes their editing makes everything seem so much worse fr
His mom is Korean.....
@XYZ you're copy pasting this comment everywhere.
Let him do what he wants.
He should shine like other trainees that want to shine.
김지웅이 결단력있게 말 잘했다. 성한빈이 조심스럽게 기분상하지않도록 살을 잘 붙였고. 매튜맘 반은 이해가고 팀을 위해서라면 멤버들 말이 맞음..
걍 아무도 잘못한 사람이 없다. 이러고 팀원들끼리 잘 해결해서 무대까지 잘 끝마쳤는데 이런 갈등상황만 보여주고 무대는 또 허위매물만 쳐보여준 암넷 탓이지.
Mnet dragging seokryudans through the dirt is my villain origin story. I can't believe they ended the episode on this note 🥲
The way they edited the shot of them having a huddle before going up on stage and making it look like Matthew was excluded was so gross of mnet. I hate them😂
@@mhlib7569same
석매튜 비주얼투표 주작 해명해👊👊 석매튜 밀어주기 분량 독식 피디픽 편파 주작논란 해명해✊️✊️
Explain Seok Matthew frame up🤬
매튜 파트 적었는데도 방청 후기에는 생각보다 잘 보였다는 얘기 많았음..
매튜 네가 생각하는 것보다 훨씬 매력이 많은 친구니까 잘 안 보일것 같다는 거에 너무 걱정하지 않았으면 좋겠다
파트적어도 보일사람은 보임.. 백도어때 4초였는데 지웅이 엄청 보였음 매튜도 잘보일거라 생각함...
매튜야
너만보여
I saw a lot of people hating on the 3 of them on the live comments but literally what do they expect, a team to be perfect and not have any conflicts? Of course Matthew was going to be upset since it happened last moment and he really wanted to have vocal 1 because of his mom and for Hanbin and Jiwoong they did nothing wrong, they saw what was best for the team and tried to fix it. A team will have conflicts trough the way, its normal, so hating on them is just plain dumb since nothing controversial happened. At the end of the day there were probably no hard feelings, Just keep voting for them and don’t drop the 3 for this little situation that was probably made to seem worse by mnet.
People say they want kpop idols to be human, to act “natural” but when kpop idols do have a conflict, when kpop idols feel a little hurt when they don’t get the part they want, they get hate because of it. When its completely normal and okay, and in fact sometimes even make the idols themselves feel closer to one another. I know mnet often overdramatic things but still
THIS. Finally someone articulate this without malicious intent or showing a negative narrative against another trainee.
The situations sucks but you have to understand form everyone’s point of view. No one was in the wrong and this is not a church, it’s a survival show. We’re here to debut idol not saints
i really cant expect kpop stans to be mature lol especially survival show fans, they get toxic so fast
tbh nobody can be blamed for this. we know jiwoong and shanbin have to do this for the team and Mathew wanted the part and its totally understandable (this is so sad I cried when he revealed the reason behind it). And we all know mnet is gonna evil edit them. please acknowledge the situation and vote wisely we don't wanna lose a trainee over an evil edit:(
But he said if he doesn't get sub vocal 1 he would move to team switch.
@@9iku556 can you blame him tho-? he's in top9 I think he's quite deserving to get the main parts
@Riza Rafiq Why so serious? I just said about what he actually said. 🙃
Tbh the mom thing sound more like an excuse than a reason. The reason why he wanted vocal 1 is cause like he said, he wanted to stand out and vocal 2 didn’t have much lines which will make him look like a “passerby”. He literally has a solid fan base and is ranked so high already, what is there to stand out. Seungeon who is on the verge of getting eliminated wasn’t even thinking about himself and was so selfless… meanwhile Matthew here being greedy. I’m sorry but …
@@9iku556 lmao no I wasn't serious sorry if I sounded like that😭
Kdrama
Male leads : Hanbin and Jiwong
Female lead : Matthew
Director and producer : Mnet 🐍
Genre : evil editing
Not Msnake trying to break up THE friendship between Matthew and Hanbin. Luckily they’ve showed many times how much they cherish each other so viewers won’t be so easily fooled. With their kind of relationship, they’ll be able to work it out eventually!
연습시간이 짧은데 갑자기 전부터 정해져 있던 파트를 바꾼다고 해서 절대 힘들었을 것 같다.게다가 서브보컬1을 꼭 하고 싶은 이유를 듣고 정말 눈물이 났다.너무 고생했어.이만큼 서브보컬1을 고집하는 건 메튜가 퍼포먼스에 정말 진지하기 때문인 것 같다.정말 메튜의 그런 점이 너무 좋아
To be honest, the mom thing sounds more like an excuse than a reason. He literally said that he wanted to stand out more cause vocal 2 doesn’t even stand out. I’m pretty sure his mom can understand some Korean, even his sister spoke Korean on TikTok. But regardless of that it’s selfish of him to think about himself and not his TEAM (Seungeon is vocally better for the song). His rank is already so high, and has a solid fan base, why can’t he just “willingly” give Seungeon (who is on the verge of getting eliminated) the part, instead of making Hanbin, Jiwoong and Seungeon look like the bad ones. Matthew is just greedy, I’m sorry
@@XYZ-cp2mh hat ni dari tadi lagi dok buat pala. mmg hg dok serumah dgn dia pun.
@@XYZ-cp2mh are you dumb? 😹
@@XYZ-cp2mh An excuse? Where do you know that?
Have you ever met Matthew's mother?It's okay to be greedy. That's how much Matthew want to debut.But Matthew eventually changed his part and completed the performance even though he didn't have time, and I just saying he's really proud.
@@XYZ-cp2mh haha you're telling this so easily like you actually know his family. You all just want a reason to hate him.
I was very surprised by the comment section.. the comments were all very positive! 😊 thank you for being so mature and not hating on Shanbin and Jiwoong!!... Shanbin and Jiwoong just want the best for their team... I know it's very painful for Matthew ... but he is really suitable to be Sub vocal 2.. his voice and tone are perfect for that! Fighting! Jiwoong,Yujin,Shanbin,Matthew,seung eon!! Btw... I'm really pissed because I have to wait another week for Say my name and Over me to perform -_-💢
Jiwoong n hanbin really wanted the best for the team n matthew is right too
Let's make them debut together ❤
매튜야 갑자기 파트 바뀐다니 물론 당황하지…엄마 생각해서 파트 골른것도 울컥…😢매튜의 데뷔에 대한 본기도도 느껴지고 더 좋아하게 됬어❤매튜야 한상 응원할께🎉파이팅🥰
The way they tried to do this evil-editing despite us knowing how strong of a friendship there is between jiwoong, matthew and hanbin
What more AFTER the release of the dance practice of SMN as well where they were all happily dancing and enjoying themselves
And we can clearly see who got which part too, it definitely looked like they rearranged it to fit each member the best and they're happy with it
It's so fkin dirty really but it's mnet so what's new, they will purposely create conflict out of thin air for the sake of drama
damn right 🙋♀️ mnet keeps fishing for drama every f episode, hahaha! i meaaaan this aint fooling me dawg 🤣
I don’t think this is an evil edit… they’re just showing the boys working through disagreements and conflict, which is normal in any group…
Of course people in this group don’t like Matthew from heart 😅he is so annoying and dare said his mother can’t understand Korean which is TOTALLY FALSE!!!
Conflict out of thin air? Matthew was crying like the conflict was real and that's okay
@@selina7318 I meant in general, they would purposely create drama out of nowhere through editing if they need to for the sake of creating some kind of tension
In this case, yes there was actual conflict and it definitely got solved after that, but they built it up in such a way and then left it at a cliffhanger at its peak just to get people talking and spreading assumptions
If this was a kdrama, sure but considering how I've already seen people jumping to conclusions and sending hate to certain members, mnet got what they wanted
If you watch their dance practice video, you can cleary see that they redistributed Sub vocal1 and Sub vocal2 lines to fit both Seungeon and Matthew's voice,
this means that Matthew indeed put the team first, and all of them actually thought of a better way to arrange the song.
Don't let the edits control your votes!!!
@@9iku556no it was them singing. Anyone who has watched the video can easily understand
@@9iku556 whatever, he did for the team. That's the point!!
@@9iku556 I realized that you really hate Matthew , right ha ha . Doesn't it burn you to hate him and see him as evil?😂😂😂.
But when I watched the whole episode. I can clearly understand where Matthew's attitude is coming from. Imagine, they know that you really wanted that part and they said yes to it, then later on they said someone suits it better. Something similar happened to me in the past, it really affects my self-esteem and it feels like they don't trust me on that matter. If I were Matthew, I would be upset too, and will cry alone for a while. Fortunately, Matthew set a side his selfish thoughts and followed what most of his team wanted. FIGHTING MATTHEW! ❤
When Matthew said this "I'm like just a person passing by", this breaks my heart a lot. Matthew ya, you are not, you are not, never ever like that. You have us, star creators, and SEOKRYUDANS who love you so much. I am just afraid that Matthew will lose his confidence. Matthew ya, you are like sunshine which shines so brightly upon the sky. You are my sunshine and I only want you to know that you have us. We will always proud of you whichever you have done and tried so hard for. We will appreciate your hardwork which you have already shown so far. We believe you. My baby.. Love you so much.
승언이 데뷔해야돼………
Please Vote for Kim Jiwoong
First, mnet didn't even bother contacting Matthew's mom to go to the surprise guerilla showcase, when performing in front of his mom is the ONE thing he wishes to do, and now they're dragging him through classic evil editing. I've seen a few comments on tiktok about how this is showing Matthew's "true character" and so they stopped voting for him but seriously? are we really going to fall for mnets tricks again? I don't want to think that his rank dropped but I really hope we can all continue to vote for him because I'm sure his one-pick fanbase was and still is going pretty strong. Let's hang in there seokryudans, fighting Matthew!!! And I hope no one sends hate to Hanbin and Jiwoong, they're just trying to do what's best for the team :)
My heart aches for Matthew . He is so precious and Mnet trying to drag him in the dirt with all the evil edits makes my blood boil ! Please support Matthew 😭 he’s really talented and I promise he won’t let any group down if the debuts .
There's a lot of talented in g group , they are really famous even in Korea. like Zhang hao , Ricky , Matthew etch. I think they don't want their pick to overwhelm by these foreigners that's why they want to evil edit them
@@jaimeguiron6736 matthew is korean. they put him to global to get more koreans in the group 😭
@@acrux739 He is Canadian. He showed his Canadian passport in his promo vid.
@@lanzhan.weiyinghes korean because both parents are korean by lood ? ...but maybe hes Canadian by citizenship
@@gloriousmutswakatira13 YES
연습생들의 소중한 꿈을 응원합니다
한빈 매튜 지웅 유진 승언 스크님들께 멋진무대 보여주느라 고생 많았어 짧은 미리보기 예고로도 빛나더라 세마넴 ❤
Jiwoong really showed his mature and professional side here. I've seen a couple people comment that he should have brought it up earlier, but if I put myself in his shoes, here is how I see it; it is not his part, so he trusts Seungeon and Matthew to choose what is best. They get their parts and practice, they both have the opportunity to prove that they suit their parts. When it becomes clear that they would be better suited to eachothers' parts he doesn't say anything immediately, thus giving them another opportunity to bring it up themselves. Since they do not, it would then be the leader who should say something. Jiwoong sees how that may be hard for Hanbin and why he may hesitate due to his friendship with Matthew and knowing how much Matthew wants the part and would be upset to change it. Only then does Jiwoong bring it up himself, after everyone else has had the chance to either do really well in their parts or bring up a switch. He is not overstepping or acting hastily, but in the end he does what is best for the team even if it is uncomfortable.
I don't think anyone in this situation is wrong for their feelings or actions. Honestly it is a very minor conflict, they are still just as close and put on a great performance together!
Your comment is really well thought!
This situation solidified that I think Jiwoong should be the overall leader of this group. He was even advising Matthew inthe Love Killa group.
@@momoyromas9456 i agree in this case, knowing that mattbin is especially close and hanbin's role as a leader may affect their friendship. but i also thought about how more often than not i see jiwoong as a better advisor than a leader in this kind of setting. he's less outspoken compared, but he always steps in when it is needed. he's also someone that a leader could turn to when things get tough. every team needs someone like jiwoong. his role is precious.
i'm reminded of how kpop groups don't have their oldest member as leader, and i think it's super helpful that way! (but of course, it also depends on the team dynamics)
Jiwoong is such a mature person, he was willing to bring up the hard topics regarding Matthew and seungeons role distribution, I really respect him for being able to do so. There needs to be someone to take up this role even tho it's hard.
Love jiwoong for this❤
Ji Woong is so mature. He knew that he has to open this matter since its hard for Hanbin to open this given that he will surely hurt Matthew.
Love you all mattew , ji woong , yu jin n hanbin you guys worked hard 🤗🤗🤗
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めてゅーをちょっとでもいいなと思った人も投票お願いします🙏❤ここのグループはみんなデビューするべきです！！
당연히 생길 수 있는 정도의 갈등이고 매튜가 끝까지 서브1 하겠다고 한 것도 아니고 연습 영상 보면 제일 표정 밝던데 매튜 욕 좀 그만해 연습 영상 보면 매튜가 승언이 엉덩이 툭 쳐서 승언이도 웃더라 세마넴 관계 망가뜨리는 건 엠넷이랑 악편에 속아 연습생들 욕하는 님들임
@@skaalto 엠넷이 석매튜 욕심쟁이 프레임 씌울라고 악편해서 애들 분량 줄어들고 석매튜는 욕먹고 있는데 아직도 피디픽이라고 까고싶음?
HANBIN I LOVE YOU
유승언 노래 진짜 잘한다..
JIWOONG LET'S DEBUT ❤️
Guys.. don't misunderstanding with the scenes because it's just a normal situation in every team.
Put yourself on Matthew POV like.. your team agree with their own part, and Matthew was happy because he really want the part badly, he thinks that his team believe he can do his part great, right?
Who doesn't happy when your team trust for something you love?
And suddenly they think you ain't suit for the part and suggest you to switch with the other part, like???
You guys have to trust me with this part before and now??? Why Just don't trust me, that I can do this part?
Why don't give me time to show??
You guys agree previously, right??
This what Matthew feels.
It's okay for being mad or disappointed, because it feels like his team betrays him for not believing him.
It's really really normal for every team.
Don't misunderstanding or mad and think Matthew selfish for thinking about himself only. No. This is normal to react like this when you feel your team treat you like this.
It's such normal condition when you have conflict in your own team.
These group fans are good, understanding n mature, just no hate comments n fan wars you will separate them if u do so
석매튜 비주얼투표 주작 해명해👊👊 석매튜 밀어주기 분량 독식 피디픽 편파 주작논란 해명해✊️✊️
Explain Seok Matthew frame up🤬
@@sheissohotshit 😭 i hope someone explains me too , like my one pick till now didn't get the position he wanted like every single time , forget killing part not even a sub vocal now ?? 🤧 We deserve explanation , we understand the voice of the other trainee was great but they didn't have to take away mattew's position 😫 we trust him with his position if he says he can do it he will , just bro why are they making them fight
This is NOT his personal growth program and Yoon Seungeon is obviously more suitable for this part. If you don't understand that Matthew lost the opportunity to show himself, have you thought about others who were far more excellent than Matthew but were eliminated due to the lack of exposure, they had ZERO chance from the beginning... Matthew's already gained exposure and privileges that are inconsistent with his strength, he enjoyed the privilege of pd pick and took away the rights of others in G Group as his data and rankings were all fake at the beginning.
@@emmakobiolka3459 we know, i vote for many trainees each day by many devices, the sad part was many 4 star trainees were eliminated in the first elimination itself , i am not compare mattew hyung with others saying he is great than so n so , i am just seeking explanation why dosent he prove his talent in front of others trainee when selecting the position (he need more confidence to get recognised) caz as you see his talent is great on stage , reciving 4star is not easy right .
@@emmakobiolka3459 not personal growth? Bro survival shows are to show one's personal growth in limited period of time understand basic concept of voting system after stage , btw do you think the 98 trainees who were there though they know they had least exposure would stay they could have left in the starting, trainees come to survival show for experience n personal growth, the eliminated trainees were saying the same thing " as long as we learn m improve a lil it's fine to get eliminated"
Matthew situation is understandable as he always never got part that he wants since KTL:(( it hurts to see… but i believe in him as whatever he did until now is always served the best he can do. I hope no one would fall into this evil edit, cause its normal to have misunderstood in discussion and what hanbin and jiwoong did for their overall team balance, it also understandable to show the best. I wish seokryudans and allindans never put blame to each other but lets supports and votes for both of them as we know they having the best friendship ever in this show❤️
and once again Jiwoong is showing is leadership. if it wasn’t for him, things could have been worse and the parts not properly assigned. he would be such a great and considerate leader for the future group, please keep voting for him!
@@chococlairedid i mention matthew? or that he was wrong? i’m talking about the situation in its big picture and just praising jiwoong cuz he had the gut to speak up. i think u misunderstood my words, but it’s okay!
Of course, and it's proven his team always wins
@@chococlaire you are over reacting. He is praising jiwoong and not attacking other teammates. I dont see any hate or negative comments about that.
hanbin is also thinking that already but jiwoong went in first I guess.
Oh please Matthew having 3 lines instead of 1 is not going to make the team lose. It’s not like he was asking for main vocal or killing part or a solo. If they had let him do it do you think he would drag them down he has a higher rank than Jiwoong. If all is fair Seungeon should have been main vocal as the best singer but Hanbin wouldn’t let that happen😂
Matthew wanted that part because it was mostly in English and he wanted his mom to understand it 😭😭
I swear if people stopped voting for him because of this, I'll especially go in everyone's house and haunt them!!!!
He is such a sweetheart, he deserves all the votes :(
Call me too i will join , but if people stop voting then, we won't let them
Same I will join u too
like till now he didn't got the part he wanted in every Mission 😭😭
call me to haunt them too bestie!!
Call me, i will join with you to save our baby 😢
dear seokryudan and other star creators, please imagine and feel what will you do if you are in matthew position. i dont asked you to love him but at least not to hate him. thankyou
めてゅに投票お願いします‼️
Please vote for Matthew‼️
We love Matthew not only because he is cute but also he is talented and can even be a all-rounder if he wants. He is receiving evil edits start from now so we MUST really focus on voting him properly. He's not safe until he enters top 9 in final so let's protect this ray of sunshine at all it costs. I will never forgive myself if matthew can't debut
여러분, 세 사람이 서로 사랑하는 것을 알고 있으니 한빈, 지웅, 매튜에게 투표하는 것을 잊지 마세요! 셋 다 데뷔하자 ❤
매튜를 삐뚤게 보는 사람들은 다 조별과제 망했으면 좋겠다! 일주일넘게 연습해온던걸 바꾸라고 하면 속상한게 당연한거 아닌가?? 고집써서 파트 안바꾼것도 아니고 잘 해내서 방청 후기에도 칭찬 많았는데....암넷은 해결된 후도 보여줘야죠^^ 앙가드는 보여줬으면서 세마넴만 왜 이상하게 끝냄?
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매튜오빠 파트 바뀐거 진짜 너무너무 아쉽지만ㅠㅠ 난 솔직히 지금 매튜오빠 파트가 더 잘 어울리는 것 같아!!!!!!결국에 승언오빠도 바뀐 파트에 보컬이 강한 장점이 부각되서 넘 잘 어울리고 매튜오빠도 진짜 너무 귀엽기도 해서 매튜오빠가 파트를 너무 잘 살렸어🥹❤
We all know that Hanbin, Matthew and Jiwoong love each other so please stop this st*pid editing Mnet...
KIM JI WOONG shows that how strong headed he is... No matter what say my name team gonna rock it... Every member in say my name ..are precious...n don't stop to vote kim ji woong ..he must debut with high ranks ... ❤❤❤
昇彥唱的很好 換的非常好！大家憐愛馬修同時 也請支持昇彥 每個人都很努力 也都有才華 只是昇彥不想爭他可是主唱的vocal….
Matthew ya, you can do whatever perfectly. Don't worry too much. We understand you want to do sub vocal 1 bc of your mom but don't worry your mom also love everythings what you do. You are the best matthew. We will support you to be debut. Let's debut Matthew.
His mom is Korean
Please don't stop voting Matthew. He said that he understand and know that Seungeon did well. He just need time. 😢 Maybe it's just hard to let go because he really want that part badly.
No friendship was ruined. We all know how Jiwoong and Hanbin adore Matthew.
왜 욕하는지 이해가 안갔는데 우리지웅이 한빈이 입장도 이해가 가고 매튜도 이해가 가는 상황인데
결론은 이셋이 잘 지내고 있고 무엇보다 지웅이 매튜 넘 좋아한다는거...
그리고 바뀐 파트 승언이한테 너무 찰떡이고 매튜도 찰떡임 넘 귀여움
이 5명 다 착하고 잘하는 친구들이라 팬들끼리 싸워봐야 의미없다
그냥 이 5명 넘넘 잘하고 잘어울리고 다같이 데뷔했으면 좋겠당 ❤️❤️
This just shows that these 3(Hanbin, Matthew and Jiwoong) will debut. Fighting! Haeyaji!
Guys no fighting n no hate , they are best friends, ur hate comments will seprate them,
But why does mattew is never given the place he went, killing part tho away he they are not letting him take sub vocal 1 like come on now.
Lots of love , i wanna scream go give him a hug fast 😅
Yes so sad Matthew never got the part he want 😢😢 wanna huge too
Seungeon is so underrated. His voice suits this song so much ❤❤
If they rearranged based on vocal talent then seungeon should have been main vocal, so why change matthews part? Matthew must have been hurt so bad.
@@maurylorenocsalon1478 Just like what Seungeon said, Hanbin is a better performer. Although Seungeon is better vocally he is not confident with his dancing and won’t be able to lead the performance as well as Hanbin who is not only good at singing but also dancing. The main vocal for this song will be in the center a lot and he thinks that Hanbin would do a better job as he has stage presence and basicallly everything.
@@wyskz oh is it, why in other team the main vocals are not the killing part?
@@maurylorenocsalon1478 cause the killing part are just ‘iconic lines’ that will make them stand out. Killing part gets less/smaller but more impactful lines. But main vocal literally carry the whole performance in singing and dancing
@@maurylorenocsalon1478 Actually, if you watch the SMN line distribution, the Sub Vocal 1 has the MOST lines, even more than the main vocal. While the main vocal is mostly in the center. It makes sense to keep Hanbin in the MV position because he is the stronger dancer. While the SV had more singing lines which is the best position for Seungeon who is the stronger vocalist.
Matthew I've been crying for you since earlier 😭
Matthew let's debut!💞
Please don't forget to vote Matthew 😢
@@Firnur_8 Don't worry I won't stop voting for him until he debut 😤
매튜의 마음도 다른 팀원들의 마음도 다 충분히 이해가 가! 갑자기 파트가 바뀌어서 당황스럽고 슬펐겠지만 열심히 연습해서 최고의 무대를 보여준거 같아서 고마워! 수고했어!! 세마넴팀 다 같이 데뷔하자~
My heart breaks for matthew 🥺 You did so well
what happened i need context i wasnt able to watch live 😭
@@owowonn he wanted to take the sub vocal 1 part , he took it but after that jiwoong and hanbin thought that it sounded better with seungeon so they decided to give it to him , so Matthew was disappointed because he wanted that part
He wanted that part because that part has more English, he want it for his mom to understand it. "Matthew's song"
He wanted sub vocal because if his mum😢😢 Matthew never got what he want
@@sparklingclouds9456 nooo my baby matthew😭💔💔 he fr deserves better but honestly we cant also blame jiwoong and hanbin's opinions if it's for the team
ボーカル1を譲りたくなかった理由が個人的な事だったから話し合いの場に持ち出さなかったメテュは本当に偉い。
そんな中いつも寄り添ってくれるジウン、ハンビンにまで変えようと言われるのはキツかったよね🥲それでもグループのため心を鬼にして意見した2人もそれを受け入れたメテュも最強😭😭
Isso acontece em todo time e é certo pensar no que seria melhor pro time como um todo! Jiwoong e Hanbin foram muito certos em levantar essa pauta, entendemos o sentimento do Matthew de não querer desistir da parte, mas realmente o melhor no momento seria trocar. Então não deixem de votar nos três por isso por que é algo normal durante a produção de uma música onde acontecem mudanças para o melhor vocal em cada parte
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誰の意見もわかるよ😢大丈夫！！メテュがサブボ２でよかったって思える来週を待ってる！！！最後まで見守る！！😢😢❤
I understand the whole team tbh. If I was in matthews position I would also cry and be upset but I see why hanbin and jiwoong did this for the team
They could have been nicer about it especially Hanbin. Maybe not letting him go off and cry on his own. In the segment Matthew says it felt like they were ganging up on him. If my best friend did that to me I would be hurt. So if it was the best for the team they could have handled it better. What we were shown came off that Hanbin and Jiwoong were very cold and not understanding.
@@rhyker9597 But it's because he can't sing well, Hanbin and Jiwoong treated him very euphemistically.
@@spinach004 one of them is his best friend who could have behaved a little more empathetically like Matthew probably would have if the roles were reversed . Also having 3 hours to practice before evaluation performance is not very nice to him and Seungeon when this decision could have and should have been made a week ago. I don’t know where you’ve been but he can sing about as well as Hanbin who kept the main vocal for the good of the team even though Seungeon sings better than both of them. I wonder why he did that 😂
@@rhyker9597 The reason why Hanbin didn't propose to change part a week ago is because he believed Matthew could practice well, but the fact is he can’t sing that well. Rather than being scolded by the teacher, it is better to adjust before class.
,its really sad to see Matthew being hurt
Despite that he still perform with smile on his face whole time.
매튜야 힘내! 슬퍼하지마 💖
I really love Jiwoong leadership, and the Way he can handle the situation calmy even he is not in Leader position. He is proof to be leader Bepler❤️❤️❤️❤️
Plz keep voting for Matthew
I don't want him to be 2nd yurina
Korean fans please keep voting for him. He just want that part for her mother but still he nailed his part. Mnet is just trying to drag him down
어느 쪽이든 이해 됨
매튜입장에서는 서보1 잘 연습하고 있는데 갑자기 바꾸자하니, 당황스러운게 당연한거고, 본인도 서보2는 잘 보여줄 자신이 없다 요런 식으로 말하긴 했음
근데 또 지웅,한빈 입장에선 개인도 중요하지만 팀이니 팀을 위한 방향으로 가고싶었던거고 말야..
한빈이가 리더가 처음이라서 아직까지 서툰건 어쩔 수 없겠지만, 파트를 불러보고서 잘 어울리고 소화 가능한 친구를 뽑았었다면 좋았을텐데
그냥 이거 하고싶은 사람? 이거는 누구가 잘 어울릴 것 같다, 나 하고싶다, 요런 얘기로만 했으니 이런 일이 일어난 거 같넹..
물론 처음이니 어려운 상황 너무 이해됨!!
나도 첨엔 조에서 리더역할 맡을때도 너무 머리 아팠고 어려웠음. 그래도 막상 결과는 깔끔하게 잘 마무리했었음. 나같은 애도 마무리 잘 했는데
세마넴 팀도 좋은 결과,무대 보여줬을 거라 생각함!!
please vote for Kim Ji Woong ♥ He needs our help ♥
客観的に見て英語が多くてお母さんに聞いてほしいパートだからやりたい気持ちが強いのもわかるし、チームとしてスンオンの方がいいから薦めるジウン、ハンビンの気持ちもわかるからどちらが悪いとかないのに編集が一方的過ぎる😢
세마넴 전부다 데뷔해라.. 석매튜 세마넴 후기 많던데 빨리 보고 싶어
They’re literally a trio at this point. The fact they can speak so bluntly to one another shows serious trust.
This is literally the best point made in this comment section. You can’t be honest with people if you don’t trust them.
@@mhlib7569 While I think Hanbin right now really just admires and looks up to Jiwoong, Matthew looks at him like an older brother figure in this competition. Without honesty you can’t have respect and without respect you can’t have love. From all of the interactions that have been shown I would say there’s love there so I think it speaks volumes about Jiwoong as a leader. I really hope to see the three of them debut together I think they have amazing potential.
Nah, they blind sided Matthew
@@torikpop822 it’s a competition they’re all there to win not make friends at the end of the day
@@EvanDseven nah, but the way they went about it was wrong. Hanbin was a terrible leader. That should’ve been discussed. Matthew offered and even asked for their opinion (mainly seungeon, but as a leader he should’ve said something at that moment).
To keep it 100, seungeon should’ve done the main vocal part and hanbin does sub vocal 2, if they redistributed the parts like they were supposed to.
I don't think there's anything wrong with everyone in this team. Mattew just wants to keep his own. he said seungeon suits his part because he can put a high notes. whereas Matthew could not. He cant does adlibs. He also wanted to sing a lot of english lyrics ( which is in vocal 1) for his mother in Canada. Very sweet right.. Mnet just over dramatic.
Sungeon does improvise and adding ad libs in any positon he's in to make the song better, not because he's particularly Sub Vocal 2 in this group. ex. The high note in Home was also his improvisation. And that's the reason the group voted him to stay in the group, because of his vocal. Besides, Matthew was having problem with some of the Sub Vocal1 notes.
We understand Matthew's worry, but I'm glad he finally agreed to take Sub Vocal2. That part was literally made for him! Jiwoong was right. As seen in the dance practise video, It's basically the "cutest" part of the song and he owned it! I also think he stands out the most despite having less lyrics to sing.
Matthew is already falling so much in rank i don't get why mnet is doing this.. as matthew stan i feel so bad that he is losing his popularity.. please vote for him.. it's not just his personality but come on he killed love killa and kill this love stage.. he has this stage presence, good vocals, dance, personality.. let's vote for him and hanbin and jiwoong too ofcourse..
I really don't want matthew to lose
matthew〜💗🤍大好き！
No matter how hard mnet tries , they can never break this friendship ❤
석매튜 계속 응원해줘야지💗
Matthew you got very small part in kill this love but still you got 1m views we Seokryudans love you and support you even if you get a big part or a small one
We believe in you
vote for jiwoong
Don’t throw hate on shanbin and jiwoong.They did it for team.Lets support all of them.
매튜! 형들 어깨에 손올리며 몰카 아니예요 ? 팀위해 양보
좋은 사람이고
귀여워요^^ 응원합니다 ~❤
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