I think Eggman is likely gonna betray Gerald, since his intentions are to rule humanity, not to destroy it, which is different from Gerald and shadow. Which is also where likely this quote comes in “if I can’t rule the world, I might as well save it”
I guess it comes down to who betrays the other first... I imagine Gerald and Shadow betray Eggman, but he had a backup plan because he was planning to betray them first
It seems I'm the only guy who's paying close attention. In the trailer, when all the villains are standing by each other, there's a gap between Eggman and Stone. And there's one important character introduced in Sonic Adventure 2 that we aren't seeing in the film thus far. I seriously think Paramount is hiding the presence of Rouge the Bat.
@markdpane I'm pretty sure they've written her off, I mean, she is one of the main characters of SA2 but it can still work without her (especially when team Sonic are actually working with G.U.N here so there's no real need for a double agent), and honestly, I can't see how they will translate this relatively provocative character into this style of CGI properly 🤣.
You can also see super sonic or super shadow streak by right after sonic says "This ends now" during the lava erupting. You gotta go in 0.25x speed to see it.
I said the same thing. Gerald will certainly betray Robotnik. And Robotnik will try to save Earth, possibly dying in the process. In this trailer, Robotnik states he wants to rule the world. Shadow confirms later on that there’ll be nothing left to rule. Yet in the _first_ trailer, we _distinctly_ hear Robotnik say “If I can’t rule the world, I may as well save it.” This clearly signposts that Robotnik will switch sides to save the planet. And if Jim Carey is truly going to retire after this, then him dying to save the world is a good way to write him out.
But at the same time... If they plan to continue making sequels after this... It would feel kind of weird without Eggman... I'm not necessarily saying Jim Carrey should continue playing the role of Eggman, rather, the sequels will need to be carefully scripted to suit the absence of Eggman
My prediction is that Sonic and Shadow are fighting over the Chaos Emeralds, but they don't go super yet. Remember, the ARK's doomsday plan in SA2 only works once the Chaos Emeralds are in the cannon's core. And in the first Adventure game, it shows that Super Sonic can only be activated through positive feelings and determination (they hint as this in the second movie as well but don't confirm that this is still the case), meaning that if this carries over, Shadow wouldn't be able to go Super due to him being motivated by revenge. So what I think happens here is they fight in their base forms, Shadow wins and takes the emeralds to start the ARK's collision course with the earth, and the ending plays out similar to SA2 (maybe replacing the Biolizard with a Gerald robot or something for budget).
I have a feeling that Tom is going to take Amy’s place which stinks, but when you watch the trailer, it just makes so much sense. The way he talks to Sonic throughout the movies. Would you rather have a character that just shows up out of nowhere to talk to Shadow or some character that’s been around for all three movies?? It just makes sense. I love Amy so much, but I have a feeling that’s where it’s going. Amy’s going to be in the post credits probably. Remember, Sofia Pernas is in the credits as well, but no one knows who she’s playing
0:13 kinda hard to ask them when it’s 10:30 pm and your supposed to be asleep because you got school tomorrow EDIT: 6:06 I personally thought that the lava area could be the ruins of the moon but my theory kinda falls apart since they’re would be low gravity
Would definitely prefer a movie over a TV show. Better to have a budget that can support the CGI star. So we can avoid a Commander Olive Garden show, guest staring Shadow.
Hot topic is a very well established store that was famous for its “edgy” clothes, which were often black with red flames. It’d be great if it was a SC reference. But it’s likely not.
I think Shadow will be reminded of Maria's wishes but only after his fight with Sonic. As long as we get a fight between two super forms? Bro I couldn't be more hype for that
I didn't see the reflection of the emeralds in Sonic's eyes until they were pointed out! That's so interesting! The part when Tails is confused with Detective Pikachu is so cute and funny!!! Sonic and Pokémon are my favorite franchises. I never thought to draw parallels between Tails and Pikachu though. However, I did try really hard to find similarities between Shadow and my most favorite Pokémon, Mew and... well.... the only conclusion I came to was that both of them are half rodents. With that said, I watched a video which talked about the similarities of Shadow and Mewtwo such as their troubled pasts and lust for revenge. It's very interesting how these Japanese animators conceptualize ideas for these franchises. Talking about the ending of this movie, I really hope it's different than the one in SA2. I've seen it way too many times through the years and I cry every time. We already know Maria dies in this movie which is heartbreaking at its core. I don't want to see my favorite Sonic character die, too. This is totally wishful thinking but I can always hope
I am starting to think that the Biolizard will not be in the movie and instead Shadow is the true villain of the movie. I honestly think that Shadow will stay evil and will not ever team up with Sonic. In some kind of way Sonic will have to defeat Shadow and the Space Colony Ark by himself.
I bet shadow and sonic fight via lava scene ,then after Shadow remembers Maria's wishes they team up and go super to take down the space colony arc.... BOOM . Shadow falls to earth they find his limiter rings then post credits dr eggman has him.
I hope no one convinces shadow to turn good. That way its different from SA2 and it doesnt take away Amy's role. I'd personally love to see him turn good some other way / maybe even in a follow up show / film
Honestly my take is similar, but different. Stone looking dejected I think is the key. I think it's going to be that Agent Stone is the first one to question Gerald's intentions. However, Eggman will deny this, wanting to reunite with his family. In which case Agent Stone will be rejected. Eggman will choose his grandfather over him. And Stone will think it's over, trying to move on from Eggman. However it's probably the scene we see Sonic Hub show here. Where Robotnik will realize, he made a terrible mistake. And will end up helping Sonic and Shadow similar to the game. Think the Super Sonic V.S. Super Shadow scene is very likely. They've advertised the stakes in this movie will be higher in an interview with the producer. And pitting the two supers against each other, would be a great way to do that. But we'll have to wait and see.
while i do think the trailer just made the movie a little predictable, i do think if they're actually gonna pull off shadow & gerald betraying eggman then you know they cooked with the story here
But how is he still alive? In the games, he’s an old man when the events of the ARK raid happen. Maybe in the movie version, he was in his 30s when it happened, but how can he be a grandfather at that age? I have questions
So. from what I've learned and confirm for myself is from all the trailers and everything that has come so far even with posters. It looks like the space colony arc isn't going to be as big as it's suppose to be even alive action. it's just going to be the ship we seen in the older trailers and it looks like from what we've seen shadow is powering the (mini arc) because of this it doesn't look like the chaos emeralds won't power this mini arc either 🤷🏾 and it will probably be like a last minute plot device just so that's supersonic and super shadow can fight it out so it's all cool for the kids not really for lore or for anything interesting for us long time fans. But hey at least we fans get the super fight so that's something to look forward to probably at the end of the fight sonic will eventually convince Shadow what Maria really wanted he'll defect and they'll do some big chaos control to stop the mini arc from crashing into London and Shadow might be lost in the crosshairs of it all. who knows🤷🏾 but I'm guessing that's what the movie is going to end like in some capacity 🤷🏾 it's just obvious at this point though I really was hoping they would have leaned a little bit more into sonic adventure 2 lore maybe if they bring out next movie they might want to go in that direction that has more of the lore as sometimes you have to have the lore with the characters otherwise What's the point of trying to make them live action in the first place you know 🤷🏾🫠. All things put aside I hope the movie is good though 👏🏾🫠
It just makes me wonder "how did they get away with that NINTENDO reference in a SEGA movie?"
@@spencerklein5520 SEGA and Nintendo are on good terms with each other but it's still pretty cool
I think Nintendo owns sega rn…idk I might be wrong
Didn’t paramount also make the pikachu movie? Maybe they have those rights since they specifically said detective pikachu
Sega and nintendo are a good team.
@spencerklein5520
SEGA and Nintendo are on good terms nowadays. Otherwise, we wouldn't have had the Mario and Sonic Olympic games.
I feel like Tom's line about making the right choice when it matters most can also be directed at Shadow.
@@darkcobra1418 clearly he read the lyrics to open your heart
I think Eggman is likely gonna betray Gerald, since his intentions are to rule humanity, not to destroy it, which is different from Gerald and shadow.
Which is also where likely this quote comes in “if I can’t rule the world, I might as well save it”
Have a similar theory myself. Eggman could end up saving the world
I guess it comes down to who betrays the other first... I imagine Gerald and Shadow betray Eggman, but he had a backup plan because he was planning to betray them first
@ could also be
You can tell Jeff Fowler really liked working on Shadow the Hedgehog '05.
He's a fan of shadow.
tails looks like pikachu confirmed?!🗣️🗣️🔥
I hope the third movie takes itself seriously while still having good jokes, have better action sequences and some emotional beats to it.
It seems I'm the only guy who's paying close attention. In the trailer, when all the villains are standing by each other, there's a gap between Eggman and Stone. And there's one important character introduced in Sonic Adventure 2 that we aren't seeing in the film thus far. I seriously think Paramount is hiding the presence of Rouge the Bat.
@markdpane I'm pretty sure they've written her off, I mean, she is one of the main characters of SA2 but it can still work without her (especially when team Sonic are actually working with G.U.N here so there's no real need for a double agent), and honestly, I can't see how they will translate this relatively provocative character into this style of CGI properly 🤣.
It truly isnt team bad without rouge, huh?
You can also see super sonic or super shadow streak by right after sonic says "This ends now" during the lava erupting. You gotta go in 0.25x speed to see it.
I mean they literally have screwed over Amy and rouge i have no hope for them
It’s interesting that they haven’t shown Krysten Ritter yet- even though the rumor she was playing Rouge “wasn’t true” maybe that was a misdirect?
I said the same thing.
Gerald will certainly betray Robotnik. And Robotnik will try to save Earth, possibly dying in the process.
In this trailer, Robotnik states he wants to rule the world. Shadow confirms later on that there’ll be nothing left to rule. Yet in the _first_ trailer, we _distinctly_ hear Robotnik say “If I can’t rule the world, I may as well save it.” This clearly signposts that Robotnik will switch sides to save the planet.
And if Jim Carey is truly going to retire after this, then him dying to save the world is a good way to write him out.
This is the best theory I have ever heard.
But at the same time... If they plan to continue making sequels after this... It would feel kind of weird without Eggman... I'm not necessarily saying Jim Carrey should continue playing the role of Eggman, rather, the sequels will need to be carefully scripted to suit the absence of Eggman
The one thing I wonder is how they are going to make the Biolizard look in Sonic 3. Sonic movie 3 is going to be a PEAK movie!
No one says biolizard is in the movie
@ it could be
@@pepe-kf7hiAnd who said biolizard *isn't* in the movie, hmmm??
@@knowingjordankid most likely isn’t though
@@xenoemblem7 Chill
We will see😅
My prediction is that Sonic and Shadow are fighting over the Chaos Emeralds, but they don't go super yet. Remember, the ARK's doomsday plan in SA2 only works once the Chaos Emeralds are in the cannon's core. And in the first Adventure game, it shows that Super Sonic can only be activated through positive feelings and determination (they hint as this in the second movie as well but don't confirm that this is still the case), meaning that if this carries over, Shadow wouldn't be able to go Super due to him being motivated by revenge.
So what I think happens here is they fight in their base forms, Shadow wins and takes the emeralds to start the ARK's collision course with the earth, and the ending plays out similar to SA2 (maybe replacing the Biolizard with a Gerald robot or something for budget).
I have a feeling that Tom is going to take Amy’s place which stinks, but when you watch the trailer, it just makes so much sense. The way he talks to Sonic throughout the movies. Would you rather have a character that just shows up out of nowhere to talk to Shadow or some character that’s been around for all three movies?? It just makes sense. I love Amy so much, but I have a feeling that’s where it’s going. Amy’s going to be in the post credits probably. Remember, Sofia Pernas is in the credits as well, but no one knows who she’s playing
The better option is Tom doesn't convince shadow and Amy does in a future film
Aw, Biolizard would have looked really cool in CGI
0:13 kinda hard to ask them when it’s 10:30 pm and your supposed to be asleep because you got school tomorrow
EDIT: 6:06 I personally thought that the lava area could be the ruins of the moon but my theory kinda falls apart since they’re would be low gravity
Were gonna see super sonic vs super shadow
I can almost guarantee that, if Shadow survives the movie, he's gonna get his own spin-off show like Knuckles
I guarantee you they’re not killing him off he’s too hype
@@Blockaleno67definitely not. They wouldn't hire Keanu for just one role
@@rhysburns5420 fr
Paramount did say that if this movie does well, they will make Shadow's spin-off film be a movie instead of a TV series.
Would definitely prefer a movie over a TV show. Better to have a budget that can support the CGI star. So we can avoid a Commander Olive Garden show, guest staring Shadow.
The trailer was great. You can tell they’re really trying to make this movie successful. I’m sure it will turn out great.
Most likely at the end of the movie Shadow will turn good and team up with Sonic to stop Gerald and and Doctor eggman
Shadow the bad boy but tuned good when he gets adopted shadow the good boy
Did anyone notice that in the trailer sonic called shadow Hot Topic referencing snap cube sonic adventure, two fan dub?
Hot topic is a very well established store that was famous for its “edgy” clothes, which were often black with red flames.
It’d be great if it was a SC reference. But it’s likely not.
@ yea that true the joke shadow made was that he wanted to know where the nearest hot topic was
wait WHEN
WHEN DID HE DO THAT
HELP
I think Shadow will be reminded of Maria's wishes but only after his fight with Sonic. As long as we get a fight between two super forms? Bro I couldn't be more hype for that
It would be nuts if they gave us that
I'm more interested in whether the movies are gonna make Hyper forms canon, I mean, it is a possibility
@@InnocentBurger-gm4tdit's doubtful but it's a good thought
I'm ready to see sonic movie 3 and I hope they won't too much of the film.
I didn't see the reflection of the emeralds in Sonic's eyes until they were pointed out! That's so interesting!
The part when Tails is confused with Detective Pikachu is so cute and funny!!! Sonic and Pokémon are my favorite franchises. I never thought to draw parallels between Tails and Pikachu though. However, I did try really hard to find similarities between Shadow and my most favorite Pokémon, Mew and... well.... the only conclusion I came to was that both of them are half rodents. With that said, I watched a video which talked about the similarities of Shadow and Mewtwo such as their troubled pasts and lust for revenge. It's very interesting how these Japanese animators conceptualize ideas for these franchises.
Talking about the ending of this movie, I really hope it's different than the one in SA2. I've seen it way too many times through the years and I cry every time. We already know Maria dies in this movie which is heartbreaking at its core. I don't want to see my favorite Sonic character die, too. This is totally wishful thinking but I can always hope
I pointed out the emeralds
I feel like the thing that will set Shadow on the path of good would be one line...
"Would she really want this??"
The grassy field with Shadow and Maria goes as far back as Sonic X, except it was bright and sunny that time.
Pika Pika!😂
i hope they do put the biolizard is in there
Knuckles knowing about Pokemon is something that I never thought would happen, but I’m not complaining!
Also the hype train just keeps going!
There better be a satisfying conclusion with Sonic's quills.
My mom just bought the tickets!!!!!YES I THOUGHT 2 STEP AHEAD
I think Maggie is going to be placement for Amy
Amy still could appear but we will have to wait & see
this movie is gonna be peak
I am starting to think that the Biolizard will not be in the movie and instead Shadow is the true villain of the movie. I honestly think that Shadow will stay evil and will not ever team up with Sonic. In some kind of way Sonic will have to defeat Shadow and the Space Colony Ark by himself.
Not a good theory
I loved the trailer and it didn't show that much there is still a lot of questions unanswered
The trailer is peak
I bet shadow and sonic fight via lava scene ,then after Shadow remembers Maria's wishes they team up and go super to take down the space colony arc.... BOOM . Shadow falls to earth they find his limiter rings then post credits dr eggman has him.
No Eggman = No Sonic Movie Franchise
Sonic hub I told you that in the stream that the chaos emeralds were in the eyes you stoĺ my info😢
Sad there's no Amy silver is not gonna be in the post credit scene amy is
Doubt.
I'm gonna have to stay away from RUclips from spoilers 'cause my country is releasing this film in JANUARY 😭
I hope no one convinces shadow to turn good. That way its different from SA2 and it doesnt take away Amy's role. I'd personally love to see him turn good some other way / maybe even in a follow up show / film
I'm so glad they didn't make shadow a brute edgelord
Honestly my take is similar, but different. Stone looking dejected I think is the key. I think it's going to be that Agent Stone is the first one to question Gerald's intentions.
However, Eggman will deny this, wanting to reunite with his family. In which case Agent Stone will be rejected. Eggman will choose his grandfather over him. And Stone will think it's over, trying to move on from Eggman.
However it's probably the scene we see Sonic Hub show here. Where Robotnik will realize, he made a terrible mistake. And will end up helping Sonic and Shadow similar to the game.
Think the Super Sonic V.S. Super Shadow scene is very likely. They've advertised the stakes in this movie will be higher in an interview with the producer. And pitting the two supers against each other, would be a great way to do that.
But we'll have to wait and see.
Nah they have to do this or I’m going
to go nuts!
Jojo(toms daughter)will replace amy
Imagine
Jojo is Tom’s niece tho???
Awesome Sonic video!
while i do think the trailer just made the movie a little predictable, i do think if they're actually gonna pull off shadow & gerald betraying eggman then you know they cooked with the story here
Aright gonna have to do some changes to my Sonic 3 analysis and theories video
I thought Gerald was a disguised Black Doom.
No it seems like he wasnt executed but is in prison
But how is he still alive? In the games, he’s an old man when the events of the ARK raid happen. Maybe in the movie version, he was in his 30s when it happened, but how can he be a grandfather at that age? I have questions
@@Reyna_Amaturi Same...
@@Reyna_AmaturiProbably not the case, but it’s not impossible for someone to be a grandfather that young
@@Reyna_Amaturionly time will tell. Maybe he was awoken like shadow? Maybe time travel? Excited to find out
I’m pooping my pants because I’m so excited
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4:21 But he did speak though
So. from what I've learned and confirm for myself is from all the trailers and everything that has come so far even with posters. It looks like the space colony arc isn't going to be as big as it's suppose to be even alive action. it's just going to be the ship we seen in the older trailers and it looks like from what we've seen shadow is powering the (mini arc) because of this it doesn't look like the chaos emeralds won't power this mini arc either 🤷🏾 and it will probably be like a last minute plot device just so that's supersonic and super shadow can fight it out so it's all cool for the kids not really for lore or for anything interesting for us long time fans. But hey at least we fans get the super fight so that's something to look forward to probably at the end of the fight sonic will eventually convince Shadow what Maria really wanted he'll defect and they'll do some big chaos control to stop the mini arc from crashing into London and Shadow might be lost in the crosshairs of it all. who knows🤷🏾 but I'm guessing that's what the movie is going to end like in some capacity 🤷🏾 it's just obvious at this point though I really was hoping they would have leaned a little bit more into sonic adventure 2 lore maybe if they bring out next movie they might want to go in that direction that has more of the lore as sometimes you have to have the lore with the characters otherwise What's the point of trying to make them live action in the first place you know 🤷🏾🫠. All things put aside I hope the movie is good though 👏🏾🫠
Actually sonic & shadow are on the moon
stopping kids from saying first
More like 3v4(agent stone just gone now?)
Tails is a fox
No Amy, no Rouge. 😔
I’m early for once yayy, also this trailer was fire
This is stupid, why can’t we at least get Rouge if Amy isn’t in the movie.
quick question guys, did they nerf knuckles in the movie so they can all work together?? btw im hyped for the movie!!
naw tails is a ninetails. lol
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