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Chariii, what is even the point in showing sins being retracted if they don’t STAY retracted?? CinemaSins and other people parodying them get that right, why don’t you?
I think the reason why Ralsei doesn’t turn to stone is that his Home Fountain is the castle town fountain, which as said by Ralsei himself a little while before you questioned why he could be in the cyber world, can fit any Darkener. Therefore Ralsei should be able to fit in any dark world. Kinda just a story way to have the party always have a healer I guess. Also Fun Fact: Based on the freeze ring’s description talking about a person inside the ring, it’s to be assumed that the Addison that Noelle froze got put INSIDE the freezering, and if you talk to Lancer after you check your pocket or check what he says in your pocket when you’re in his room, he’s actually quickly hopping in and out of your key items.
About the Ralsei being born from the Castle Town fountain:YES THANK YOU FINALLY I've been commenting that everywhere, it's literally stated that Castle Town fountain is pure darkness and can be host to any darkner, and RALSEI WAS BORN FROM IT therefore he is compatible with every other dark world as well. I'm actually baffled that you're the first person on a deltarune video I've seen mention it, it's literally mentioned at the beginning of chapter 2
I see literally everyone say the thing about Ralsei being from the grand fountain, but oh my gosh no. Ralsei can be there because the darkeners allowed is decided by the will of the fountain.
@@Epsicronics another interpretation is that Castle Town is inside a storage closet, so anything would fit their theme. Also, Ralsei said the darkner MAY not fit into the dark fountain's theme, it's not guaranteed. By that logic, of course a spade card wouldn't suit a computer lab, nor a rules card (although rules could be interpreted as an 'algorithm' hence Roulx could resist a bit longer). We don't know wich object Ralsei is, but as I said, it could be basically anything in the storage, as well as something that could appear in any sort of room.
While I agree with you from the logistics and game development standpoint, I think most people (including myself) are confused as to why Toby didn't explicitly spell this out, and why Ralsei just brushes it off as if it's nothing--four separate times. Toby is a master of deceptive storytelling, and uses every word spoken or unspoken to foreshadow something in the future. The idea that he simply forgot to have Ralsei explain how he can travel between dark worlds seems unlikely at best. Not outside of the realm of possibility, just... unlikely. Especially with how suspiciously portrayed Ralsei is throughout both chapters so far. He's obviously hiding something; it's reasonable to assume that this is part of it.
@@pokedude720 yeah but it's a joke about how floppy disks were used back when games were as simple as pong, there was no such thing as "saving your game" in the 1970's of course a floppy disk wouldn't even know what saving is.
8:54 You CAN proceed through this puzzle, if you keep trying to walk down Noelle will eventually run through as well. She's just afraid of the mice that will show up when the button is pressed.
The best thing about that is that if you stand in the right place you can see him in both your KEY ITEMS and the castle, meaning he moves so fast he leaves a permanent after image.
7:06 it's a joke about how floppy disks were used back when games were as simple as pong, there was no such thing as "saving your game" in the 1970's, so of course a floppy disk wouldn't even know what saving is. +1 sin for charii missing the joke
@@thedolphinwithdrip7514 bro ur saying that if he just acted like every single thing was wrong even when it's right? it would be funny? bro i'm just mentioning he straight up missed a joke.
21:13 Briefly wanna comment on this by the way: when you check the description of the freezering, it describes it as having a snowglobe type orb and that 'someone is inside' Personally, I think this means Noelle straight up stuffed the guy into the ring..how she did this admittedly I have no idea, but it's the best explanation the games gives you. Edit: WAIT WTF, HOW DID I GET 286 LIKES FROM MY SMALL-BRAIN LOGIC???
She literally not only has magic at her disposal, is the only character in the game actually capable of killing and her most powerful spell either turns a strong boss into ice OR LITERALLY VAPORISES normal enemies, are we really gonna believe that she couldn't trap the Addison into the magic ring?
Well if she has ice powers why not just freeze him freeze the ring fuse the frozen Addison with the frozen ring and unfreeze them it would be a logical answer since you're fusing them naturally one of the outcomes is the Addison appears in the ring
I'm personally under the belief that it's a mini-Noelle in the ring, as after you equip the Freeze Ring to her and she grows stronger, she gets a little orb around her, that looks oddly like a snow globe, and as you said, the freeze ring description states that it has a snow globe and that it seems like someone is inside. _I have seen nobody talk about this fact so I felt I should mention it_
15:07 my favorite thing about this scene is that it's one of the few times kris does something without the player's input. like of all times to break from the player's control they thought THAT was the perfect time to do so.
14:37 As far as I know, the accepted reason is that Ralsei's fountain, and therefore Ralsei himself, is made of pure darkness, allowing him to be compatible with any dark world.
21:04 The Addison actually gets frozen into the ring. If you look at the ring's description, it'll say that it has a snowglobe on it, and that there's someone inside.
When starting a new C2 save file, the game checks to see if you’ve ever beaten Jevil, on any save file. If you have, it will always give you the shadow crystal and Jevilstail in the bottom right of castle town. However other things like Onion-san and Thrasher are random, most likely because they don’t affect the game too majorly.
I think for Onion-san it checks if you talked to him or not if you used a chapter 1 save file to continue. If you started a fresh chapter 2 save file, the default choice is “not talked to”. Almost anything has this default choice in case of starting a fresh new file, the only exception is Alphys at the start of Chapter 2, where not talking to her in the epilogue of Chapter 1 will trigger an unique dialogue, but when starting the chapter 2 as a fresh file, the default option is “being talked to”, for some reason. Thrasher…is a bit more complicated. I think there’s also a default configuration for it, but i saw some speedrunners using RNG manipulation to change some parts of it (for categories that don’t allow Chapter 1 to be played)…so maybe it IS random to some extent?
@@MrGukkos Its just whatever you got when you defeated Jevil. I believe Merg last killed Jevil, so he would have gotten the Devilsknife, where as Charrii probably spared Jevil, so he would get the Jevilstail
I’m say it just goes with what your first file was my first chapter 1 file was devilsknife because you can attack king queen and birdly not in snowgrave with nothing changing I went with dealmaker though because well more money and I like the idea of Kris and spamton being together well something I like not a ship I just like it why I went with devilsknife well buster TP down and well I don’t really like the tail don’t know why I just did not like it
Yeah, but 1. You wouldnt know that at first and have to do it a few times before he even mentions it. I doubt most people would think of doing that unless they were just screwing around. 2. Un- sinning it would lose the 69 sin Tally. And that wouldnt be as entertaining.
3:25 I mean, Queen says "Hell of a study session" when you meet her, there was also another example but i forgot soo oops? 14:40 Ralsei is made with the fountain of castle town, which is why he's compatible with all other worlds so far.
It’s like blood types AB+ (ralsei because he can receive the darkness of any fountain) and 0- (the great fountain because any darkner can receive its darkness) And yes I know I said zero instead of o because that’s what the o means. It’s literally a zero, an empty space.
Considering that she was able to have the arcade cabinet delivered to her, and then it exploded thus making it a non permanent fixture, I would say it counts as a mobile game.
I really love QueenCreeps’ voice for Queen, it fits her posh nature while still being comedic and funny. Also I’m really looking forward to whatever the rest of the Snowgrave route looks like, in Chapter 3 onward.
"And don't worry if English isn't your first language." *Immediately switches to Spanish* It's also Determination that seals fountains, which Monsters actually have in DeltaRune.
Also, it's entirely likely a monster soul is powerful enough in this game to seal fountains. It's just one of the things where we don't have enough information yet.
12:20 I literally JUST noticed that shadowy figure behind Kris and noelle against the wall. You can see what looks like kris' legs and maybe glowing purple eyes
A lot of people assume that the fun gang makes the coasters themselves but the dialogue happening while the sound effect of the coasters being readied implies they are being put together on their own, plus the dialogue also implies they want to use the coasters to get to the fountain as fast as possible so why take your time customizing it when that takes too much time. Another piece of evidence is noelle and burghleys coasters. Berdly pretty much has to same coaster as us, it’s the same size and pretty similar customisations. Noelle on the other hand, who is consistently shown to be given special treatment by the queen and is clearly her favorite lightner, gets a much larger and flashier coaster. It’s longer, has sled skis and is just flashier. If they were built by berdly and noelle themselves I would expect noelle to make the more modest coaster and berdly be the one to pull out all the stops. These were clearly more like gifts
3:15 Pretty sure that isn't supposed to be a... "current events" joke, but about "decency", considering that Toriel is somewhat... "christian" in Deltarune. I also think that there was already a "propper distancing at the school dance" joke in chapter 1.
22:17 Their dialog explains that they are just jumping in and out of your pocket really fast, still probably a sin for them being able to jump out of your pocket so fast though
with sin 45, I'm pretty sure ralsei mentions at some point that the closet fountain is made of 'pure darkness', and later, queen says Noelle will make a 'neo dark fountain', implying the existence of... well a NON neo dark fountain. which is why darkners from other fountains can live in castle town. lancer and rouxls are from a neo dark fountain, but ralsei is prince of the CLOSET, not card kingdom, so he's from a pure fountain. I guess that means he's ok? that also means while card kingdom and cyber world were made by the knight, the closet was formed by... someone else...?
My headcanon is that the closet dark world was made by Kris and Asriel as children, since they used to play in it all the time as kids, as their safe haven, and when Asriel left for university, Kris made Ralsei, as a version of their brother who could physically never leave them, as they rely on Kris for their existence.
17:22: "In chapter 3 you're gonna tell us that the fountains also make spears laced with cocaine fall from the sky and that if anyone gets hit with it, they become a dog." Toby: " *Thanks for your feedback! Be seeing you soon!* "
18:30 That's the thing, save files of two chapters are *entirely separate*. Two different sets of 3 files. And it's actually not even three files but 4-7 files per chapter because there's 3 files for save slots, 1 file for auto save data and completing the chapter creates unique completion files for each save slot. So yeah, Toby and team made sure our progress between chapters and save files is thoroughly recorded for future use instead of being overwritten
Then again, game didn't remember me meeting Onion-san either but did remember telling Noelle about Susie and chalk. They definitely overcomplicated something in the process
3:23 WHY IS EVERYONE SAYING "oh Ralsei is oddly specific o where they are" but NO ONE HAS DRAWN ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT QUEEN CAN DO THAT TOO? 4:26 from the door in chapter 1? I mean, it was used to travel to another dark world, so logic states there is another door. 6:23 she said she would use their LIKENESS. The statue is a SUSIE-LIKE STATUE. Queen did as she said, and used another guy that looked most like Susie, but it wasn't Susie. 14:40 yeah, but the dark fountain from his world is pure darkness, so other darkness can exist in his world, it would stand to reason that He can visit theirs. 15:41 ...... this is just the prophecy but titans added to the mix. why sin it? He is just explaining to Noelle and Berdly, and REexplaining to Susie
I'm not gonna lie, that "Write a dating profile" advice Charri gave during the sponsor (yes I actually watched it) was really cool and gave me some good incite on how I also want to write some characters for something I had in mind. I know it was technically Skill-Share that gave him that info but I'll still thank Charri for passing that on despite needing not to.
I hate pointing this out because I feel like a peace of s**t when doing so but deltarune is a AU not connected to undertale to undertale neo terrible defensive deltarune neo god defensive
I feel as though people in this fandom forget that the main requisite to a pacifist run is to not *kill* anyone. Berdly annoyed me so much, that I hit him before doing the ACTs. FIGHT-ing is totally fine as long as you don’t murder him.
Yeah, it's a recruitment drive instead of a pacifist run now. BUT if you defeat Queen instead of freeing him from the plug, he does lose the use of his arm.
21:04 If you inspect the FreezeRing the flavor text hints at the fact that the silhouette trapped inside the FreezeRing is the Addison, thus answering your question.
17:11 He honestly probably assumed everyone knew, as the Roaring sounds like something one would assume any important person is aware of. It's like not knowing what McDonald's is, you don't explain to someone what it is because you inherently assume they know it
14:45 I think it's that, since Ralsei's fountain spews pure darkness that can support any darkners you recruit in the Town, the opposite is true. In that, since Ralsei is made of pure darkness, he can survive on any dark world.
Meanwhile in another universe Noelle: And that’s what happens when I use a spell I don’t *snow!* Berdly: Noelle, you literally killed a person. Also if Lancer, Spamton, Queen, and/or any of the other Darkners could hypothetically visit the Light World, how would Kris and Susie react to their presence? How would they interact with the townsfolk.
It doesn't mean that he didn't look like that when he was younger. There's at least a few characters that should be able to make that claim... yet they're avoiding it. hmm.
@@King_Luigi probably none of Kris’s classmates were born when asriel was small, as the classmates should be similar ages. Asriel would always look at least older than undertale.
@@voidpickle5684 There's also the possibility of people simply seeing pictures of him from back then. But even without that, it doesn't mean the 2 of them couldn't be similar enough to make a connection.
I mean, besides them both being boss monsters (or at least ralsei being modeled after one), I don't see any reason why they would look the same. asriel has grown up, yes, but he never needed glasses, he didnt have pink horns, either. Unless you just think they all look the same, friggin spiecies-ists...
@@golden6294 I agree. There’s a clear resemblance, so anyone who pays attention a lot and notices small details, like noelle, would realize. Others would probably say they look a bit similar if they were asked or discussing about it but wouldn’t make any mental notes.
8:56 you can just skip that puzzle, and tell noelle to "Proceed." 20:14 And the roulxs are that you need to sit in the right spot for a certain amount of time to initiate the cut scene.
21:05 The Addison disappearing is explained by the description of the Freeze Ring, stating that it appears there's someone in the small snowglobe part of the ring, that person most likely being the Addison.
18:07 So for this point, basically if you’ve beaten Jevil/Spamton NEO in any save file, then talking to Seam will give you their shadow crystals, so in case you start new save files, you don’t have to relight them.
14:48 my guess is its because ralsei is from the great fountain in castle town. just like how any darkner can exist around it, ralsei uses it's power to exist in any other dark world
Why does everyone say this? It’s because the allowed darkeners bends to the will of the fountain. Ralsei is allowed in because the fountain allows it. Which is more interesting.
@@Blocky_Frog it's because it's like the same logic as Boss Monsters from the original Undertale. They're like, superior than normal monsters. Just like Ralsei can be able to resist being in other dark worlds.
12:18 the hell is there a silhouette of what I can assume is the goner you made at the beginning of the game to the left? Does anyone else see that. The glow in their eyes?
8:47 Well you did the puzzle first try but if you miss once you'll notice Noelle won't go on because of the mice,, and you have to press the button to exit that room, so until the puzzle isn't resolved mice will still continue to appear and Noelle won't be able to pass. So yeah you have to solve it because of her, there's no other point
I was honestly very happy when they learned S-Action and R-Action, then I finally had the freedom to make Kris use an item in battle and not have to have them act every single round, cause now I can have Susie and Ralsei take care of that to some degree. (6:30)
21:10 I THINK he ended up in the FreezeRing, due to the description stating that a small figure can be seen inside, but I could be totally wrong, and furthermore I haven't foggiest notion why he ended up in there.
You have expressed your love for Punch Out many times on the channel. Why not do a What I've Thought About with your favorite installment. Little Mac disserves more attention.
18:55 if you fought(and won) againts Jevil, in any file, it probably sets a value to give you a shadow crystal and the Jevilstail/JevilsKnife in any Chapter 2 runs, I'm pretty sure.
@@Blocky_Frog no, he got the Jevilstail, and Jevils Shadow Crystal, so no, Spamton Neo doesn't seem to effect that, only if you've fought/won againts Jevil. Spamton *does* have a shadow crystal, but I'm assuming this is a new chapter 2 run, before Neo, and getting Neo Shadow crystal before fighting him doesnt make sense.
If you have a complete save file and you do another blanl chapter 2 save file, it determines if you defeated Jevil in the original one depending if you were violent or merciful I don't remember correctly but if you are pacifist you get the jevilknife and viceversa if you were violent
@@hedgehogpower194 this comment was from 2 years ago but you still make a good point about complete save file. Are we seriously not gonna question why people call opinions wrong? Or did i already question that in one of your previous replies?
12:20 so nobody gonna mention that shadowy purple eyed guy fading in? I checked in multiple playthroughs, that aint there. What are you hiding from us?
Yay I'm early! Now who's ready to become a *BIGSHOT!!?!* So did the queen and king used to date or not really Lancer's biological mother? Then queen herself sounds like Eclipsa with a robotic voice. Also am I the only one who see Spamtom has Professor Venomous' Hair or Is It just me? Still my favourite part of the game at 12:49 to 13:04
to be fair if you talk to Lancer in his room after checking him in the inventory he remarks that he's out of breath from doing a bit of acrobatics to get into Kris's Pocket and then back out to seem in two places at one, he also remarks about this in the inventory area as well.
@@churro1201 yes he does, heck susie literally not wanted to join the party, talking about the roaring would convince her even more, especially after she befriend lancer. that is like a teacher giving you a test, and the test has things you not studied related to history and then you ask your teacher about it and they're like "well but i did teach you history, just not about this history specifically" heck if ralsei had said it from the start, susie and the others trying to create more dark fountains would not even have happened in first place, if you're gonna tell two strangers to save the world then at least say all the info
Anyone else notice that dark figure that slowly fades in at 12:17 ? Is that just him editing the video or is that actually in the game and that I've never noticed it?
3:28 the closet was the card dark world and the directions to its fountain is exactly the same as the directions to the closet. i assume that the dark world directions would be the same as light world
@@churro1201 It’s definitely not minor. Without that detail, we were actually just about to accidentally kill everyone. When telling someone to get rid of something that’s gonna end the world, it’s good practice to tell them that and how it’s gonna end the world. It’s a bad idea to omit any detail from something like a “Chosen One” prophecy.
@@n0dash18 I don't remember ðe world ending in chapter 2 and us having to get rid a it to save it? And Ralsei making a comment wiþ a big impact in ðat situation.
@@churro1201 The group was about to make another Dark Fountain after the Giga Queen fight, which would inadvertently bring the Titans closer to being freed and the world closer to an apocalypse. Seeing this, Ralsei told them about the Titans after withholding that information up until now, causing the entire group including Queen to abort the idea entirely, narrowly averting a potential apocalypse. It might not have been going to immediately end the world, but Ralsei sure acted like it was about to with how he scolded everyone about it. Ralsei just said we should seal Dark Fountains, he never said anything about Titans rising up and wreaking havoc if too many Fountains are made.
@@n0dash18 Ralsei did say ðat someðing bad might happen if we make too many dark fountains. "When the fountains fill the sky" "A terrible calamity would occur" Ðe only new information he said was titans which still falls under a terrible calamity.
Not really. He had legitimate points, and only really questioned Ralsei about fourish times. And even then, he wasn’t claiming that Ralsei was evil. More implying that he was sus, which he is.
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I honestly thought you would voice her.
She should have voiced Susie too
Huh… I thought it was Shenpai but fair enough
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Chariii, what is even the point in showing sins being retracted if they don’t STAY retracted?? CinemaSins and other people parodying them get that right, why don’t you?
13:05 Counterpoint: The queen is able to summon the arcade machine anywhere she wants; therefore it is a literal mobile game
oooh... a clever joke. Honestly, if that's not confirmed directly by Toby himself, that's my new headcanon
good point
*BIG Brain*
And she is a computer meaning pc games are mobile to her aswel
Her Light World counterpart is a laptop so every game is a mobile game
I think the reason why Ralsei doesn’t turn to stone is that his Home Fountain is the castle town fountain, which as said by Ralsei himself a little while before you questioned why he could be in the cyber world, can fit any Darkener. Therefore Ralsei should be able to fit in any dark world. Kinda just a story way to have the party always have a healer I guess.
Also Fun Fact: Based on the freeze ring’s description talking about a person inside the ring, it’s to be assumed that the Addison that Noelle froze got put INSIDE the freezering, and if you talk to Lancer after you check your pocket or check what he says in your pocket when you’re in his room, he’s actually quickly hopping in and out of your key items.
About the Ralsei being born from the Castle Town fountain:YES THANK YOU FINALLY I've been commenting that everywhere, it's literally stated that Castle Town fountain is pure darkness and can be host to any darkner, and RALSEI WAS BORN FROM IT therefore he is compatible with every other dark world as well.
I'm actually baffled that you're the first person on a deltarune video I've seen mention it, it's literally mentioned at the beginning of chapter 2
I see literally everyone say the thing about Ralsei being from the grand fountain, but oh my gosh no. Ralsei can be there because the darkeners allowed is decided by the will of the fountain.
@@Epsicronics another interpretation is that Castle Town is inside a storage closet, so anything would fit their theme.
Also, Ralsei said the darkner MAY not fit into the dark fountain's theme, it's not guaranteed. By that logic, of course a spade card wouldn't suit a computer lab, nor a rules card (although rules could be interpreted as an 'algorithm' hence Roulx could resist a bit longer). We don't know wich object Ralsei is, but as I said, it could be basically anything in the storage, as well as something that could appear in any sort of room.
While I agree with you from the logistics and game development standpoint, I think most people (including myself) are confused as to why Toby didn't explicitly spell this out, and why Ralsei just brushes it off as if it's nothing--four separate times. Toby is a master of deceptive storytelling, and uses every word spoken or unspoken to foreshadow something in the future. The idea that he simply forgot to have Ralsei explain how he can travel between dark worlds seems unlikely at best. Not outside of the realm of possibility, just... unlikely. Especially with how suspiciously portrayed Ralsei is throughout both chapters so far. He's obviously hiding something; it's reasonable to assume that this is part of it.
7:06 "You're entire purpose is to save"
You're getting a sin for that, buddy.
Hi verefied guy
I mean he's not wrong.
Floppy discs do hold data, which gets saved onto it.
@@pokedude720 Yeah but he said you're instead of your
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yeah but it's a joke about how floppy disks were used back when games were as simple as pong, there was no such thing as "saving your game" in the 1970's of course a floppy disk wouldn't even know what saving is.
The sin should’ve been why does the computer lab still have floppy disks?
8:54 You CAN proceed through this puzzle, if you keep trying to walk down Noelle will eventually run through as well. She's just afraid of the mice that will show up when the button is pressed.
Finally, someone else who knows this.
Yeah but really its only done when you PROCEED
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(it's not unique to snowgrave/weird route)
@@Lunarcreeper i swear i thought it was
i think that’s the joke
the lancer thing is actually explained, he's just jumping in and out of your pocket really fast.
Just that little detail makes the game 100 times better.
He freaking would
@@mattwo7 and he freakin did
The best thing about that is that if you stand in the right place you can see him in both your KEY ITEMS and the castle, meaning he moves so fast he leaves a permanent after image.
@@BoredomIncarnate16 Lancer doesn't just rival them, he surpasses them
7:06
it's a joke about how floppy disks were used back when games were as simple as pong, there was no such thing as "saving your game" in the 1970's, so of course a floppy disk wouldn't even know what saving is.
+1 sin for charii missing the joke
+1 more sin for charriii bein snippy bout spelling errors but said you're instead of your in the second part of his line
+1 sin to both of you because this video is a parody video and he is supposed to be poking at jokes like that
Yet they are the Save icon in older variations, and even newer variations, of many programs.
@@kirbyfreakyt4695 Right. It's a grandfathered symbol to represent saving just like the telephone symbol is for making calls.
@@thedolphinwithdrip7514 bro ur saying that if he just acted like every single thing was wrong even when it's right? it would be funny? bro i'm just mentioning he straight up missed a joke.
6:47 My favorite line in this entire chapter and he voiced it. Yes, very happy.
HAPPY FEET!
@@der_saftmon WOMBO COMBO!!! Oh that ain't Berdly!!!
*6:45 might be better for that, the timestamp is completely after the voiceline. If not, it's fine, my bad.
21:13 Briefly wanna comment on this by the way: when you check the description of the freezering, it describes it as having a snowglobe type orb and that 'someone is inside'
Personally, I think this means Noelle straight up stuffed the guy into the ring..how she did this admittedly I have no idea, but it's the best explanation the games gives you.
Edit: WAIT WTF, HOW DID I GET 286 LIKES FROM MY SMALL-BRAIN LOGIC???
She literally not only has magic at her disposal, is the only character in the game actually capable of killing and her most powerful spell either turns a strong boss into ice OR LITERALLY VAPORISES normal enemies, are we really gonna believe that she couldn't trap the Addison into the magic ring?
@@Epsicronics Not to mention that she kind of turned someone into a God
Well if she has ice powers why not just freeze him freeze the ring fuse the frozen Addison with the frozen ring and unfreeze them it would be a logical answer since you're fusing them naturally one of the outcomes is the Addison appears in the ring
I'm personally under the belief that it's a mini-Noelle in the ring, as after you equip the Freeze Ring to her and she grows stronger, she gets a little orb around her, that looks oddly like a snow globe, and as you said, the freeze ring description states that it has a snow globe and that it seems like someone is inside. _I have seen nobody talk about this fact so I felt I should mention it_
@@kellythekitty5190 That's..actually an interesting way to look at it. I think it's believeable!
Also, not a SINGLE sin for the normal Spamton NEO fight. Perfection.
Well....
22:08
@@B11-n8v look at the comment again
@@ebicbarton ...Yeah, I did. There's still a sin for that fight. Technically, 3 sins for the fight.
@@B11-n8v no, that's the Snowgrave Spamton NEO fight, not the normal one like the comment specified
@@ebicbarton My bad, I didn't fully see that. Sorry to you and to the Comment owner.
15:07 my favorite thing about this scene is that it's one of the few times kris does something without the player's input. like of all times to break from the player's control they thought THAT was the perfect time to do so.
What about shielding Susie from chapter 1?
They considered Commiting To The Bit was the best moment to momentarily regain control
14:37 As far as I know, the accepted reason is that Ralsei's fountain, and therefore Ralsei himself, is made of pure darkness, allowing him to be compatible with any dark world.
Plus his fountain still exists so it stands to reason that as long as his fountain exists it gives him life and power
This. Why is this so hard to figure out? Pretty sure i instantly did
literally. Isn't that why all darkners can live in Castle Town without turning into stone?
THANK YOU, WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE IGNORE THIS DETAIL FUCK
I keep telling people this and they say that that's a dumb idea. I still believe it though
Spamton Neo: "Didn't you know, Neo is famous for its high defense!?"
Chara when they fight against Mettaton Neo: "Repeat that."
That's like trowing the strongest metal of the world in the sun and expecting it not to melt
Why chara tho
Hate to be that person but it's the player not Chara
@@derp_4life623 YES
@@derp_4life623 Facts!
21:04 The Addison actually gets frozen into the ring. If you look at the ring's description, it'll say that it has a snowglobe on it, and that there's someone inside.
I always assumed that it was Noelle being controlled and that was like a visual of what she's going through
When starting a new C2 save file, the game checks to see if you’ve ever beaten Jevil, on any save file. If you have, it will always give you the shadow crystal and Jevilstail in the bottom right of castle town. However other things like Onion-san and Thrasher are random, most likely because they don’t affect the game too majorly.
It's not always Jevilstail, Merg notably got Devilsknife in his playthrough.
@@MrGukkos I guess it only checks the last time you fought Jevil then
I think for Onion-san it checks if you talked to him or not if you used a chapter 1 save file to continue.
If you started a fresh chapter 2 save file, the default choice is “not talked to”. Almost anything has this default choice in case of starting a fresh new file, the only exception is Alphys at the start of Chapter 2, where not talking to her in the epilogue of Chapter 1 will trigger an unique dialogue, but when starting the chapter 2 as a fresh file, the default option is “being talked to”, for some reason.
Thrasher…is a bit more complicated. I think there’s also a default configuration for it, but i saw some speedrunners using RNG manipulation to change some parts of it (for categories that don’t allow Chapter 1 to be played)…so maybe it IS random to some extent?
@@MrGukkos Its just whatever you got when you defeated Jevil. I believe Merg last killed Jevil, so he would have gotten the Devilsknife, where as Charrii probably spared Jevil, so he would get the Jevilstail
I’m say it just goes with what your first file was my first chapter 1 file was devilsknife because you can attack king queen and birdly not in snowgrave with nothing changing I went with dealmaker though because well more money and I like the idea of Kris and spamton being together well something I like not a ship I just like it why I went with devilsknife well buster TP down and well I don’t really like the tail don’t know why I just did not like it
22:17
Lancer just keeps jumping in and out of the pocket each time you open the inventory. Do that a couple times then talk to him
The dog represents Toby. It is extremely op and shatters the fourth wall constantly.
Pretty sure he was making joke
@@Tree_-wp5zn I’m aware
@@puglife658 oh...
22:18 You better un-ding that, as Lancer tells you when you chat with him after checking your pocket.
Yeah, but 1. You wouldnt know that at first and have to do it a few times before he even mentions it. I doubt most people would think of doing that unless they were just screwing around.
2. Un- sinning it would lose the 69 sin Tally. And that wouldnt be as entertaining.
@@lancebird6675 68 is the funniest number imaginable
@@lancebird6675 69 hilarious 😐
@@lancebird6675 you dont have to do it multiple times, he said it just after i looked once
What does he say?
3:25
I mean, Queen says "Hell of a study session" when you meet her,
there was also another example but i forgot soo oops?
14:40 Ralsei is made with the fountain of castle town, which is why he's compatible with all other worlds so far.
It’s like blood types AB+ (ralsei because he can receive the darkness of any fountain) and 0- (the great fountain because any darkner can receive its darkness)
And yes I know I said zero instead of o because that’s what the o means. It’s literally a zero, an empty space.
@@Red_Ryry Sorry I'm late, but absolutely!
Considering that she was able to have the arcade cabinet delivered to her, and then it exploded thus making it a non permanent fixture, I would say it counts as a mobile game.
god
damn it
Wait can computers and pc games be a mobile game if the queen made the butlers deliver it to her?
I really love QueenCreeps’ voice for Queen, it fits her posh nature while still being comedic and funny. Also I’m really looking forward to whatever the rest of the Snowgrave route looks like, in Chapter 3 onward.
What if nubert intervened as nubert reacts depending on who you recruit lmaoooo
11:05 and Since the Dog can represent Toby himself does that mean Toby is the true villain of Deltarune
"And don't worry if English isn't your first language." *Immediately switches to Spanish*
It's also Determination that seals fountains, which Monsters actually have in DeltaRune.
Also the legend refers to the team being needed to seal the fountain because good fucking luck to Kris going through this alone
Also, it's entirely likely a monster soul is powerful enough in this game to seal fountains. It's just one of the things where we don't have enough information yet.
People that speak German: Wow fuck me, right?
12:20 I literally JUST noticed that shadowy figure behind Kris and noelle against the wall. You can see what looks like kris' legs and maybe glowing purple eyes
I don't see them
Maybe it's edited. You can clearly see it. And I didn't saw it on any of my playtroughs.
I see it! I looked at a few let’s players who played and it didn’t come up in any of them. So probably an edit
Think it’s an edit, cuz around 14:53 all the portraits are changed which I’ve never seen, or maybe it’s a really rare event
Enderman
6:23 "she never uses their likeness" 7:14 *uses their likeness for coster cars*
A lot of people assume that the fun gang makes the coasters themselves but the dialogue happening while the sound effect of the coasters being readied implies they are being put together on their own, plus the dialogue also implies they want to use the coasters to get to the fountain as fast as possible so why take your time customizing it when that takes too much time. Another piece of evidence is noelle and burghleys coasters. Berdly pretty much has to same coaster as us, it’s the same size and pretty similar customisations. Noelle on the other hand, who is consistently shown to be given special treatment by the queen and is clearly her favorite lightner, gets a much larger and flashier coaster. It’s longer, has sled skis and is just flashier. If they were built by berdly and noelle themselves I would expect noelle to make the more modest coaster and berdly be the one to pull out all the stops. These were clearly more like gifts
And a susie statue
3:15 Pretty sure that isn't supposed to be a... "current events" joke, but about "decency", considering that Toriel is somewhat... "christian" in Deltarune. I also think that there was already a "propper distancing at the school dance" joke in chapter 1.
Even though no sane person would believe homosexuality is bad. Especially since Jesus never said anything against it.
@@KittyKatty999 what does it have to do with homosexuality?
@@stephenbocknick4204 Staying 5 Feet Apart Because We’re Not Gay
@@stephenbocknick4204 its more like “keep enough space for the holy spirit” type joke lol
@@NoraHyrule exactly
22:17 Their dialog explains that they are just jumping in and out of your pocket really fast, still probably a sin for them being able to jump out of your pocket so fast though
with sin 45, I'm pretty sure ralsei mentions at some point that the closet fountain is made of 'pure darkness', and later, queen says Noelle will make a 'neo dark fountain', implying the existence of... well a NON neo dark fountain. which is why darkners from other fountains can live in castle town. lancer and rouxls are from a neo dark fountain, but ralsei is prince of the CLOSET, not card kingdom, so he's from a pure fountain. I guess that means he's ok? that also means while card kingdom and cyber world were made by the knight, the closet was formed by... someone else...?
THANK YOU, literally noone in other comment sections mention this, it's literally something Ralsei alludes to
My headcanon is that the closet dark world was made by Kris and Asriel as children, since they used to play in it all the time as kids, as their safe haven, and when Asriel left for university, Kris made Ralsei, as a version of their brother who could physically never leave them, as they rely on Kris for their existence.
17:22: "In chapter 3 you're gonna tell us that the fountains also make spears laced with cocaine fall from the sky and that if anyone gets hit with it, they become a dog."
Toby: " *Thanks for your feedback! Be seeing you soon!* "
18:30
That's the thing, save files of two chapters are *entirely separate*. Two different sets of 3 files. And it's actually not even three files but 4-7 files per chapter because there's 3 files for save slots, 1 file for auto save data and completing the chapter creates unique completion files for each save slot. So yeah, Toby and team made sure our progress between chapters and save files is thoroughly recorded for future use instead of being overwritten
Then again, game didn't remember me meeting Onion-san either but did remember telling Noelle about Susie and chalk. They definitely overcomplicated something in the process
Man Im gonna have 12 gbs of just save files by the time chapter 7 is out lmao
3:23 WHY IS EVERYONE SAYING "oh Ralsei is oddly specific o where they are" but NO ONE HAS DRAWN ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT QUEEN CAN DO THAT TOO?
4:26 from the door in chapter 1? I mean, it was used to travel to another dark world, so logic states there is another door.
6:23 she said she would use their LIKENESS. The statue is a SUSIE-LIKE STATUE. Queen did as she said, and used another guy that looked most like Susie, but it wasn't Susie.
14:40 yeah, but the dark fountain from his world is pure darkness, so other darkness can exist in his world, it would stand to reason that He can visit theirs.
15:41 ...... this is just the prophecy but titans added to the mix. why sin it? He is just explaining to Noelle and Berdly, and REexplaining to Susie
Its explained
Queen also says we are trapped in libraby
Also the thing on the Roaring is completely new. The prophecy rehash was in the intro.
Almost all of these are theories and you are acting like they are facts (Yes ik the last one isn't but still)
I'm not gonna lie, that "Write a dating profile" advice Charri gave during the sponsor (yes I actually watched it) was really cool and gave me some good incite on how I also want to write some characters for something I had in mind.
I know it was technically Skill-Share that gave him that info but I'll still thank Charri for passing that on despite needing not to.
Insight*, but, you pass, because it was a wholesome "thank you" comment.
@@SnowheadBlitz Ahhh sorry sorry I'll keep that in mind =D
The “Neo high defense” is just a joke, but I’m guessing you knew that due to the disclaimer
I hate pointing this out because I feel like a peace of s**t when doing so but deltarune is a AU not connected to undertale to undertale neo terrible defensive deltarune neo god defensive
I feel as though people in this fandom forget that the main requisite to a pacifist run is to not *kill* anyone.
Berdly annoyed me so much, that I hit him before doing the ACTs. FIGHT-ing is totally fine as long as you don’t murder him.
Yeah, it's a recruitment drive instead of a pacifist run now.
BUT if you defeat Queen instead of freeing him from the plug, he does lose the use of his arm.
Oh yea I tested IceShock on him in the pacifist route and he was fine
I accidentally made the mistake of fighting spamton and didn't make a deal, it dosen't always work like that, you shouldn't fight blindly.
@@Gaster60066 spamton FORCES you to make the final deal
@@moonceIl nope, check before accepting a false statement as facts
21:04 If you inspect the FreezeRing the flavor text hints at the fact that the silhouette trapped inside the FreezeRing is the Addison, thus answering your question.
5:06 I had feeling you would love the callback to Punch-Out.
Same😂
17:11
He honestly probably assumed everyone knew, as the Roaring sounds like something one would assume any important person is aware of. It's like not knowing what McDonald's is, you don't explain to someone what it is because you inherently assume they know it
14:45
I think it's that, since Ralsei's fountain spews pure darkness that can support any darkners you recruit in the Town, the opposite is true. In that, since Ralsei is made of pure darkness, he can survive on any dark world.
Meanwhile in another universe
Noelle: And that’s what happens when I use a spell I don’t *snow!*
Berdly: Noelle, you literally killed a person.
Also if Lancer, Spamton, Queen, and/or any of the other Darkners could hypothetically visit the Light World, how would Kris and Susie react to their presence?
How would they interact with the townsfolk.
Pretty sure they cant
The whole point is that lancer and rouxls turn into cards in the light world
@@farhiyoali863 Then how did Ralsei get to the Cyber World? That's in the library.
@@toumabyakuya Ralsei is a lightner
@@toumabyakuya He is was Kris wanted to look like to fit into his family.
8:59 you CAN actually proceed. Nothing stops you from just... Walking left from over the button, and further down the path.
Your voices for these characters are sooo fitting, like what-
15:32
You also forgot when everyone assembles to true trash machine:
*Suddenly, Power Rangers*
9:45 nobody says it because asriel’s in college, so he looks different.
It doesn't mean that he didn't look like that when he was younger.
There's at least a few characters that should be able to make that claim... yet they're avoiding it. hmm.
@@King_Luigi probably none of Kris’s classmates were born when asriel was small, as the classmates should be similar ages. Asriel would always look at least older than undertale.
@@voidpickle5684 There's also the possibility of people simply seeing pictures of him from back then.
But even without that, it doesn't mean the 2 of them couldn't be similar enough to make a connection.
I mean, besides them both being boss monsters (or at least ralsei being modeled after one), I don't see any reason why they would look the same. asriel has grown up, yes, but he never needed glasses, he didnt have pink horns, either.
Unless you just think they all look the same, friggin spiecies-ists...
@@golden6294 I agree. There’s a clear resemblance, so anyone who pays attention a lot and notices small details, like noelle, would realize. Others would probably say they look a bit similar if they were asked or discussing about it but wouldn’t make any mental notes.
I like how berdly was never mentioned in the snowgrave route. Welp, there was *nothing wrong* with berdly's sudden jump in coolness.
10:15 I see you're a man of cultured art as well.
Everything with Berdly in it automatically becomes cultured art
8:56
you can just skip that puzzle, and tell noelle to "Proceed."
20:14
And the roulxs are that you need to sit in the right spot for a certain amount of time to initiate the cut scene.
yeah but. you can't see him unless you have already spoken to him
Thanks for letting me voice my namesake 😊
perfect Queen voice!
7:11
"I'm pretty sure you never use their likeness"
*5 seconds later*
Kris, Susie, and Ralsei Coasters
4:55 Arcade machine was a .ZIP file, since this is a Cyber World, this does make sense
21:05 The Addison disappearing is explained by the description of the Freeze Ring, stating that it appears there's someone in the small snowglobe part of the ring, that person most likely being the Addison.
Broo 2 of these so close together? You blessed up Chariii
-what does blessed up mean?-
nah he was trying to chase the trend since deltarune chap 2 was trending at the time
18:07 So for this point, basically if you’ve beaten Jevil/Spamton NEO in any save file, then talking to Seam will give you their shadow crystals, so in case you start new save files, you don’t have to relight them.
14:48
my guess is its because ralsei is from the great fountain in castle town. just like how any darkner can exist around it, ralsei uses it's power to exist in any other dark world
Why does everyone say this? It’s because the allowed darkeners bends to the will of the fountain. Ralsei is allowed in because the fountain allows it. Which is more interesting.
@@Blocky_Frog that's the most logical explanation
@@Blocky_Frog it's because it's like the same logic as Boss Monsters from the original Undertale. They're like, superior than normal monsters. Just like Ralsei can be able to resist being in other dark worlds.
6:56
Watching Susie and Rasiel dancing 'Peanuts' style was adorable.
21:06 he stood by his product until the last breath, and beyond that
12:18 the hell is there a silhouette of what I can assume is the goner you made at the beginning of the game to the left? Does anyone else see that. The glow in their eyes?
22:14 I am CONVINCED Toby just wanted to make our eyes roll😂
Deltarune is a AU
11:40 Queen was drinking battery acid earlier
Anyone else notice the weird shadow that starts at 12:14 ?
Like, it just fades in and Chariii doesn't bring any attention to it at all.
Yeah?
Is it in the base game?
Fun fact: 21:06 is actually explained, or at least hinted at.
In the description for the Freezering it talks about somebody inside it.
First time ever (?) when you have so little Sins that punch-out got from 12 to 0 for this moment
21:10 The freeze ring description shows that the Addison is in the ring
15:20 I hate how meta this shit is. I don't really hate it. But its so damn accurate.
19:59 I knew Chariii was a man of culture, but to know that he's a man of quality as well is just icing on the cake.
8:47 Well you did the puzzle first try but if you miss once you'll notice Noelle won't go on because of the mice,, and you have to press the button to exit that room, so until the puzzle isn't resolved mice will still continue to appear and Noelle won't be able to pass.
So yeah you have to solve it because of her, there's no other point
Or you can just tell her to proceed a few times, skipping it entirely
4:18 Pacify only removes 1 enemy per turn. SleepMist removes all tired enemies
19:50 to be fair, he didn't say what was in the picture. It could even be a picture of burgerpants himself!
I was honestly very happy when they learned S-Action and R-Action, then I finally had the freedom to make Kris use an item in battle and not have to have them act every single round, cause now I can have Susie and Ralsei take care of that to some degree. (6:30)
The bad part about it is that it’s half not the full thing like Kris’s
20:21 "what are the rules!?"
Me to litterally everything I don't already understand or otherwise appears inconsequential
21:10 I THINK he ended up in the FreezeRing, due to the description stating that a small figure can be seen inside, but I could be totally wrong, and furthermore I haven't foggiest notion why he ended up in there.
5:26 I burst out laughing when you said that
21:05 this is actually explained with the ring's description text
You have expressed your love for Punch Out many times on the channel. Why not do a What I've Thought About with your favorite installment. Little Mac disserves more attention.
18:55 if you fought(and won) againts Jevil, in any file, it probably sets a value to give you a shadow crystal and the Jevilstail/JevilsKnife in any Chapter 2 runs, I'm pretty sure.
No it’s because he fought Spamton NEO and Spamton NEO gives you one upon death
@@Blocky_Frog no, he got the Jevilstail, and Jevils Shadow Crystal, so no, Spamton Neo doesn't seem to effect that, only if you've fought/won againts Jevil. Spamton *does* have a shadow crystal, but I'm assuming this is a new chapter 2 run, before Neo, and getting Neo Shadow crystal before fighting him doesnt make sense.
@@SynergyGaming112 oh that’s weird
If you have a complete save file and you do another blanl chapter 2 save file, it determines if you defeated Jevil in the original one depending if you were violent or merciful
I don't remember correctly but if you are pacifist you get the jevilknife and viceversa if you were violent
@@hedgehogpower194 this comment was from 2 years ago but you still make a good point about complete save file. Are we seriously not gonna question why people call opinions wrong? Or did i already question that in one of your previous replies?
18:13 and u have a reisen fumo on the shelf at the left side next to potions
17:03
*O h , d A M n !*
12:20 so nobody gonna mention that shadowy purple eyed guy fading in? I checked in multiple playthroughs, that aint there. What are you hiding from us?
8:25
FINALLY SOMEONE SPEAKS THE TRUTH
3:48 This is the first point about Ralsei being evil I can actually get behind. Damn that's a good point
You also should remember that Lancer is King, Ralsei is just a prince. So it's technically Lancer's fault
12:24 who's that shadowy figure to the left of Kris and Noelle?
Yay I'm early! Now who's ready to become a *BIGSHOT!!?!*
So did the queen and king used to date or not really Lancer's biological mother? Then queen herself sounds like Eclipsa with a robotic voice. Also am I the only one who see Spamtom has Professor Venomous' Hair or Is It just me?
Still my favourite part of the game at 12:49 to 13:04
It's confirmed that queen isn't lancer's mother when you recruit everyone
Spamton got that Phoenix wright hair
22:17 Counterpoint: It is explicitly stated that he is jumping in and out of your pocket in the time it takes you to check your KEY ITEMs.
14:04 I never even noticed that. This game is a masterpiece.
12:19 I just realized that there is someone with glowing purple eyes standing there…
This is the day I’ve been waiting for.
Hello spamton g spamton
The day where you become a [BIG SHOT]?
@@Shadex_Joestar *The [BIGGEST]!*
2:52 *Counterpoint:* They took a knife out of the drawer and left it in the empty tin. That’s why Toriel said it’s Kris’s knife.
19:10 I've only just realized thats not an eye, but instead a red cross hat
*You gained 1 therapy coupon*
i have a feeling the dog in the toy car being in the dark world is representative of a video of the dog doing donuts being posted online
19:04 agreed Fields Of Hopes And Dreams bops harder then my dad hits me
to be fair if you talk to Lancer in his room after checking him in the inventory he remarks that he's out of breath from doing a bit of acrobatics to get into Kris's Pocket and then back out to seem in two places at one, he also remarks about this in the inventory area as well.
Queen's dub voice here is just pure gold.
Who voices her?
Wait wait wait what is that shadowy figure with purple eyes behind Kris and Noelle that just fades into view?? 12:19
I see it as, Ralsei didn't tell you that info in Chapter 1 because, imagine dropping all that on two people you just met.
He also could've not brought it up because he already explained þe general idea he doesn't need to explain furþer
@@churro1201 yes he does, heck susie literally not wanted to join the party, talking about the roaring would convince her even more, especially after she befriend lancer.
that is like a teacher giving you a test, and the test has things you not studied related to history and then you ask your teacher about it and they're like "well but i did teach you history, just not about this history specifically"
heck if ralsei had said it from the start, susie and the others trying to create more dark fountains would not even have happened in first place, if you're gonna tell two strangers to save the world then at least say all the info
Anyone else notice that dark figure that slowly fades in at 12:17 ? Is that just him editing the video or is that actually in the game and that I've never noticed it?
17:27
That sprite
Kris where the hell are we
3:28
the closet was the card dark world
and the directions to its fountain is exactly the same as the directions to the closet. i assume that the dark world directions would be the same as light world
Good to see you putting effort in the story for soul star, keep up the good work charriii😉
I like how most of this video is just Chariii justifiably saying “I DO NOT TRUST THAT GOAT.”
Ralsei: adds one extremely minor detail to someþiŋ
Chariii: OMG I can't believe you lied to us
@@churro1201
It’s definitely not minor. Without that detail, we were actually just about to accidentally kill everyone. When telling someone to get rid of something that’s gonna end the world, it’s good practice to tell them that and how it’s gonna end the world. It’s a bad idea to omit any detail from something like a “Chosen One” prophecy.
@@n0dash18 I don't remember ðe world ending in chapter 2 and us having to get rid a it to save it? And Ralsei making a comment wiþ a big impact in ðat situation.
@@churro1201
The group was about to make another Dark Fountain after the Giga Queen fight, which would inadvertently bring the Titans closer to being freed and the world closer to an apocalypse. Seeing this, Ralsei told them about the Titans after withholding that information up until now, causing the entire group including Queen to abort the idea entirely, narrowly averting a potential apocalypse. It might not have been going to immediately end the world, but Ralsei sure acted like it was about to with how he scolded everyone about it. Ralsei just said we should seal Dark Fountains, he never said anything about Titans rising up and wreaking havoc if too many Fountains are made.
@@n0dash18 Ralsei did say ðat someðing bad might happen if we make too many dark fountains.
"When the fountains fill the sky"
"A terrible calamity would occur"
Ðe only new information he said was titans which still falls under a terrible calamity.
A lot of this feels more like an "evil Ralsei" theory video.
Not his fault goat boi is SUS
I enjoyed þe video but he did make some crazy assumptions
Not really. He had legitimate points, and only really questioned Ralsei about fourish times. And even then, he wasn’t claiming that Ralsei was evil. More implying that he was sus, which he is.
@@n0dash18 Yeah but 3 of ðe times he questioned him ðere was an obvious answer to ðe þing he was sinning.
@@churro1201
Could you provide examples?
21:10 if you look at that the stats of the freeze ring you will find a small frosen person inside that is where you will find him